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PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: ON STRANGER TIDES' Score Will Have An Interesting 'Original Sound'...
Merrick here...
Despite composer Hans Zimmer's return for the fourth POTC film, his music for this particular adventure will be of a somewhat different nature than previous entires in the franchise - as he'll be joined by Mexican guitar duo Rodrigo y Gabriela.
Find Disney's press release on the matter below the embed...
SOUNDTRACK SET FOR RELEASE ON WALT DISNEY RECORDS MAY 17th
BURBANK, Calif., Feb. 22, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- One of summer's most highly anticipated blockbuster movies, Walt Disney Pictures and Jerry Bruckheimer Films' "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides" features original music by Academy Award®-winning composer Hans Zimmerand a first-time collaboration with the internationally acclaimed Mexican guitar duo Rodrigo y Gabriela. Walt Disney Records will release the soundtrack for Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides May 17, 2011.
"We'd always felt it a creative necessity that the 'Pirates of the Caribbean 4' score have an original sound all its own and to distinguish itself from the first three films. With the inspiring addition of Rodrigo y Gabriela's unique artistry under the direction of maestro Hans 'Long John' Zimmer, this iconic score franchise take its next step forward with an imaginative, fresh and individual new sound," says Mitchell Leib, President of Music and Soundtracks for the Walt Disney Studios Motion Picture Group and Disney Music Group.
Hans Zimmer is one of the film industry's most respected and sought-after composers with a career that encompasses more than 100 film and television scores. An Academy Award® winner for his score for The Lion King, Zimmer has also received eight additional Oscar® nominations for his work including Inception, Sherlock Holmes, Gladiator, The Thin Red Line, Rain Man, As Good as It Gets, The Preacher's Wife and The Prince of Egypt. Other recent credits include Rango, The Dark Knightand Batman Begins. Among his many honors, Zimmer has also won two Golden Globes® and three Grammy Awards®.
Rodrigo y Gabriela are considered the premier guitar-playing duo in the world. They have sold over one million albums, have sold out arenas and headlined festivals worldwide, and in 2010 they were invited to share the stage with Beyonce for a state dinner at the White House. The collaboration with Hans Zimmer is their first film score-an exciting and defining moment in their career. Their willingness to explore musical expression and to embrace new sounds irrespective of fashion or trends, as well as their point blank refusal to be pigeonholed as any particular genre, is the very foundation of Rodrigo y Gabriela.
Produced by Jerry Bruckheimer and directed by Rob Marshall, "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides" captures the fun, adventure and humor that ignited the hit franchise-this time in Disney Digital 3D™. Johnny Depp returns to his iconic role of Captain Jack Sparrow in an action-packed adventure. Crossing paths with the enigmatic Angelica (Penelope Cruz), he's not sure if it's love-or if she's a ruthless con artist who's using him to find the fabled Fountain of Youth. When she forces him aboard the "Queen Anne's Revenge," the ship of the legendary pirate Blackbeard (Ian McShane), Jack finds himself on an unexpected adventure in which he doesn't know whom to fear more: Blackbeard or Angelica, with whom he shares a mysterious past. The international cast includes franchise vets Geoffrey Rush as the vengeful Captain Hector Barbossa and Kevin R. McNally as Captain Jack's longtime comrade Joshamee Gibbs, plus Sam Claflin as a stalwart missionary and Astrid Berges-Frisbey as a mysterious mermaid.
Walt Disney Pictures' and Jerry Bruckheimer Films' "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides," with screenplay by Ted Elliott & Terry Rossio, suggested by the novel by Tim Powers opens in theaters May 20, 2011, in Disney Digital 3D™.
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides original motion picture soundtrack will be available wherever music is sold on May 17, 2011. For more information on Walt Disney Records' releases, please visit Disney.com/music, become a fan at Facebook.com/disneymusic or follow us at Twitter.com/disneymusic. For more information on Rodrigo y Gabriela, please visit www.rodgab.com
Check out their 'Juan Loco' performance (HERE) for a sense of where their music for the film could feasibly head.
I love, love, love when movie and TV composers think out of the box (and are actually allowed to do so) and wish it would happen far more often. Very eager to see how this turns out...
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oh, first
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You gotta admit that Klaus Badelt's theme for the original is pretty kickass. I'm excited about this collaboration. Should be good.
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Feb. 22, 2011, 11:16 a.m. CST
After Inception, Hans zimmer should score every movie ever made
by RedBull_Werewolf
seriously if inception doesn't win best score, i'm going to go on a rampage
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That is one of the all-time great names. Plus, she's ferociously cute-hot. Against all reason, I am getting psyched for this next PotC.
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Whenever I do something dashing or daring like walk down the hallway at work. It is right up there with John Williams Superman.
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Feb. 22, 2011, 11:24 a.m. CST
"One of summer's most highly anticipated blockbuster movies"
by Dharma4
Really, Disney? Don't flatter yourselves, assholes
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My ex boss would work late on projects while I was on the night shift and he'd have "He's a Pirate" on repeat. For like 3 hours at a time. Change is good, at least for me.
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The original film's music is iconic and rousing... I felt the two sequels done by Zimmer felt flat by comparison (admittedly the films themselves didn't help). It seems like right from the start, however, Disney tried to distance themselves from the original's soundtrack... I remember the trailer for the first sequel barely touched on any of the highly recognizable themes from "Curse of the Black Pearl". Here, listen for yourselves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN3omw9o0Jk How do you cut a trailer for the first sequel of Pirates and not use any of the highly recognizable themes?
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This is very cool news indeed. I'm still not looking forward to the new PotC movie at all, but at least it'll probably have a good score.
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Because often the score is the last thing added to the film before release, which is why most trailers don't feature music actually found in the film itself.
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"...I don't like franchises. It gets boring. It's hard enough not to repeat yourself anyways. So what would I do on Pirates 2? Write the same music again? I don't think so." It's from this interview: http://tinyurl.com/4tvbjmg
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Of course they had Klaus Badelt's score from the original to work into the "Dead Man's Chest" trailer, and yet they chose not to use it despite it being iconic and instantly recognizable (as well as rousing.) Nor did they bring Badelt back. The whole things strikes me as someone there having a problem with Badelt... otherwise, I just can't wrap my head around it.
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That fills in at least half of the equation. As to why Disney downplayed the original's themes in marketing the sequels, I suppose maybe they were feeling snubbed? Who can say.
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Feb. 22, 2011, noon CST
ANYTHING to distance it from the dripping shitpie that was At World's End
by Jaster
I just watched a couple of their videos and they are pretty incredible. I think they will do for POTC4 what Daft Punk did for Tron Legacy.
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Fucking hell, they rip off the guys book and he throws a wobbler so they option it. Suggested my Ass!
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So in other words -- it will be a great soundtrack attached to a boring by the numbers movie?
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I'm looking forward to hearing their score.
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Disney optioned the book years ago, then renegotiated the option when they wanted to make a 4th Pirates film. They did the deal with the author before Pirates 3 was even finished, hence the "fountain of youth" nugget at the end. Since so many characters and situations have been changed, "Suggested by" is the best credit option available.
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Feb. 22, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST
Zimmer, not Klaus, did most of the first film as well
by ShiftyEyedDog
He essentially came up with most of the main themes, and Klaus did the actual scoring of the film. But yeah, most of the music you recognize is Zimer's doing, so don't be so attached to Badelt. In fact, Zimmer often borrows heavily from previous scores of his own, and POTC is no different. Listen to the score for "Drop Zone" and you'll hear very familiar tunes. Check this out at about the 1:25 mark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KC-RccDLgM
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Feb. 22, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST
Rodrigo y Gabriela sound pretty good - kinda like opening of Desperado
by ShiftyEyedDog
I like it. I kinda wanna seek out more of their stuff. Can't wait to hear the new POTC score.
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till Sherlock Holmes. A very different score than the others. The only score I've ever liked from him. His Batman music sucks. I use to think he couldn't do a theme if his life depended on it.
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I don't care about POTC anymore, but I'm going to find an album for these two. I can't figure out if it makes me want to gunfight, swordfight, have sex, or drink tequila, but its awesome.
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Feb. 22, 2011, 1:44 p.m. CST
The Jack Sparrow cello theme from the Dead Man's Chest soundtrack...
by D.Vader
Is fantastic.
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I don't think anyone would think he was overrated after that.
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Well, what about Driving Miss Daisy you bastard! caesarandotto.com
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The Dark Knight score is the only one that doesn't put me to sleep.
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Feb. 22, 2011, 2:02 p.m. CST
It's TRAGIC Alan Silvestri didn't get to score the first one
by Nasty In The Pasty
Imagine a lush, orchetsral Silvestri swashbuckler score? Itstead we get Zimmer's flatulent synths bleating away every second of screentime. Feh.
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But I agree, he does seem to have stepped up his game lately.
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Feb. 22, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST
Zimmer also threw in a reference to "Once Upon a Time in the West" in his "At World's End" score
by D.Vader
The scene where Jack, Barbossa, and Elizabeth meet Davy Jones, The head of the East India Trading Company, and Will to negotiate. He plays that "Once Upon a Time in the West" theme on electric guitar. Killer.
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What exceptional players! I'm going to show this youtube video to everybody i know. This two, they are great mexicans guitar players! What talent! Viva Mexico!
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Wrote such an amazingly revolutionary score.....and essentially never wrote anything again? Yes I know she did a couple little things here and there, probably most notably a piece in A Clockwork Orange and Kubrick's The Shining....but that's it. And yet every geek knows her name. Is she still alive? Has anyone ever interviewed her? What's her fucking deal?
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Zimer is a composer i find myself very easy to dislike his scores. And then, ocasionally, he makes a score that's near perfect, like THIN RED LINE or INCEPTION, and makes me love his stuff all over again. And then he falls back to his usual tricks and i start to get anoyed and dislike him. And then he makes another masterpiece. Always like this.
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I remember being a bit disappointed it wasn't used more in "At World's End", but that movie did have that new theme that first starts when they're in the ship looking for entrance to Davy Jones' locker. I do recall hearing Sparrow's theme somewhere in there, but I can't recall which scene. A bizarro version of it plays during the Gilliam-esque multi-Jack scene in the Locker. I feel like its also there during his escape from the East India Trading company's ship.
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Gotta love those steel drums. Probably my favourite Zimmer score.
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Those steel drums music you talka bout in the score of TRUE ROMANCE is a music that already exists, it was composed by Carl Orff (the dude of Carmina Burana) and it's called "Gassenhauer". That music was previously used in the Terrence Malick's film BADLANDS, and it's used in TRUE ROMANCE was an homage nod. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ-gTdR3oTQ
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Forget about pirates. This guitar duo is amazing. My feet are doing the flamenco.
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I've seen them live several times, including one hell of a night at Glastonbury. You won't believe they can play like it sounds on their albums, but they can. What this clip doesn't show is that they are very influenced by metal and used to be in a metal band. I can't explain how brilliant they are, but I can highly recommend everyone checks out their albums. I'm sort of sceptical about their involvement in this film because I hated the second and third installments, but at least the soundtrack should be worth a listen. And if Rod y Gab visit your town, buy a frickin' ticket!
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was maybe their strongest asset, next to Depp. The scores for all three films (although, yes, they were in parts derived from "Gladiator") are pretty much spot-on, and they're fun to listen to on their own. I always felt Zimmer and Badelt really delivered.
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Nice work on Beaks in the KnightsofBadassdom-Back.
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Thanks for the suggestions. BTW - my favorite composer at the moment is Michael Giacchino.
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I've loved Giacchino's work ever since the first season of LOST. His film work hasn't wowed me as much as the themes he created for that series did, however. The Incredibles was fun, but I didn't fall in love with it. Same goes for Ratatouille. Star Trek had its moments, but I thought it lacked a great overall theme. But the more I watch the film, the more I appreciate and enjoy his score. I've heard some great stuff on Fringe every now and then too. UP was flat-out fantastic, and I can say that I do LOVE "Roar!" from Cloverfield. I expect great things from Giacchino and always look forward to his new music.
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He's got some GREAT creepy music in "The Ring" and a really nice bit of cello work during one of the film's other themes; I seem to remember it particularly during a scene where Naomi Watts is driving to the farm near the lighthouse. Also, his work in The Lion King is fantastic and often forgotten.
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I really do like the Davy Jones theme, especially when he's playing it on the organ. The Tortuga fight piece is fun, and The Kraken theme is good music to run to. I still gotta say, though, that Jack Sparrow's theme (track 2 on Dead Man's Chest I think) is my fav.
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Because I won't be giving Beaks' attention after that last debacle, even though I really wanted to call him out for the same things you did. "I love you guys." Hilarious. Everyone knows his disdain for talkbackers. He couldn't hide it in his email to me.
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Nice reference =).
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That is all.
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I love the PotC music, but I can't help but think of a song from Gladiator when I hear the main theme. It's about 5:35 into the song The Barbarian Horde from the Gladiator soundtrack, or basically here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kvH4fw17jCg#t=337s
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There are a number of different versions of them doing that song on YouTube (including full=length versions). Here's a concise one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0CsLefLisE. And a longer version, with Robert Trujillo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swiypXOCVFM.
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I'm impressed with how great Davy Jones was, and I mean the total package. Brilliantly performed by Bill Nighy, an amazing special effect (I was convinced, during the first trailers, that it was a makeup/prosthetic job with CGI amplifications), and a great, sad, sympathetic, and monstrous character to boot. He was the most interesting thing in the two sequels.
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Feb. 23, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST
Giacchino is a piece of shit. His only good score was for THE INCREDIBLES and that's because he was stealing left and right from John Barry's Bond scores. and that fuck uses his dead pets names for the lyrics of his music's choirs tunes. This Giacchino as
by AsimovLives
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Zimmer'«s opening title theme for THE PACIFIC is one of trthose desperate atempts at "look me I'M IMPORTANT, DAMMIT" crap type music that's both manipulative and phoney. After BAND OF BROTHERS, the score for THE PACIFIC is nothing but deep disapointment one after the other. Zimmer can produce brillance. And when he's brilant, he's brillant. But most often the produces madning vomitous crap.
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Those themes from the PIRATES movie that you trace back to GLADIATOR actually predate GLADIATOR as well. You can hear that stuff in Zimmer's previous movies like ARMAGEDDON, THE ROCK and CRIMSON TIDE.
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The thing i liked about Davey Jones is that he turned out to be a tragic villain. ever sinc ei saw BLADE RUNNER, i have loved to see tragic villains in films. I prefer them instead of complete monster villains who are too easy to hate and root agaisnt, if you know what i mean. And the Gods of Geekdom forgive me, but i actually don't dislike the Pirates' sequels. And considering this movies were produced by Jerry Fucking Piece Of Shit Bruckfuckheimer, a fucker i abominate, that' saying a lot.
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That's extremely hyperbolic, even for you Asi. And we know you didn't watch LOST, bc you're very anti-JJ, and have no clue the depth and beauty of the themes in his score for that show.
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I LOVE the tragic villain, and part of me wishes we could have seen something after the credits of Davy Jones' body falling into the arms of Calypso at the bottom of the ocean, together again. He was a great villain. Sympathetic and yet twisted enough to do enough evil to get you to hate him at times. But then in the end, you feel bad for him too. Its a great conflict, a great duality. As far as the sequels go, I enjoy the hell out of them, and I respect the screenwriters and director for giving every character a backstory and a motivation and for not dumbing things down for the audience, though in the end many said the films were too confusing. Its still something to be commended in a summer blockbuster.
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I think my love for those types of characters, the ones who have a chance for redemption (and I love redemption stories), stems from my love of Darth Vader ever since I was a kid. Its what also makes Ben such a great character on LOST. I love that stuff.
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Giacchino is a ice of shit. That score you think that hack mad eso beautiful, i can see where the idiot has ripped off formother, much better composers. Starting with his LOST ending theme that's a complete rip off from Jerry Goldsmith's PLANET OF THE APES. Giacchino is a rip off artist, as much as that assclown boos of his whose name rhymes with Jar Jar. I'm happy to see that you sdo share my interest and afection for tragic villains. Sometime,s i even prefer and root for that kind of characters then the designated heroes of many movies and Tv shows. I'm one of those guys who, many time swhen i watched a show, i ended up liking and caring more for the sidekick or a certain villain then the hero. Many tiems, the villain i cared where of the super-henchman type, the sidekick tot he vilalin who in many areas was actually smarter and more efficient then the villain proper. The reason why this is so is because, it seems, because this characters are not the center of the story, like the disignated hero and the complete monster villain, they can have shades of grey to them and they can make face heel turns by the second or 3rd act, making them the unpredictable characters. Besides, since they have more flaws the the hero or more virtues then the villain, they look more human like, more relatable to how people really are. akes them more relatable, if you understand what i mean. It's very hard to make really heroic good guys interesting. Star Trek The Original Series did it brillantly, but that show is a rarity in that. And then there ar etimes when i see a villain became the hero of a story. When the bastard vilalinis the hero. Like in such movies as the original GET CARTER. The violalin as the hero, as Michael Caine put it inthe audio comentary. My motto about this is, just put interesting characters and all the rest evetually falls in. Don't try to make a character "sympathetic" too much, just make him interesting. Making characters interesting is the filmmakers problem. The sympathy thing is my problem.
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Feb. 23, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST
Darth Vader as the root for tragic villains is not for me.
by AsimovLives
Star Wars is not my biggest film reference. I don't measure all thing movies with Star Wars. It was not Star Wars that made me a movie geek. It was BLADE RUNNER, APOCALYPSE NOW, 2001, THE THING, CONAN THE BARBARIAN, ALIEN, THE EXORCIST, THE GODFATHER and some other such movies that made me a movie geek. I came very late to STAR WARS, already in my late teens, many years after the last movie had had it's run in the theaters. Hell, THE GOONIES and STAND BY ME said more to me as a young teen movie watcher then SW. SW is not my reference. And in many ways i'm happy it turned out that way. I wouldn't had it any other way. So, every time i see people saying that a sequel to any movie should be like EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, i just roll my eyes in exasperation. I like the movie but c'mon!!!
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The end theme sounds like Planet of the Apes? You're talking crazy, you really are. Also, you really haven't watched the show or given the music a fair listen. And its obvious that your hatred toward Giacchino really stems from your hatred of JJ Abrams. You haven't really backed up any of your claims. And his Incredibles score was an intentional homage to John Barry, not a rip-off; everyone knows that.
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Asi! Much much better than a piece of shit! From now on I will use that little mistake of yours in my daily discourse!
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Feb. 24, 2011, 4:08 a.m. CST
Most composers have reoccuring pieces throughout their body of works
by sam jacksons wig
Take Jerry Goldsmith; his score from legend had definately reflected his previous works on Rambo. Oh, and know that Tangerine Dream also scored Legend before anyone decides to call me on it.
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