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Michelle Pfeiffer Falls Into Tim Burton's DARK SHADOWS...


Merrick here...


THR says Michelle Pfeiffer is in talks to join the cast of Tim Burton's DARK SHADOWS bigscreen adaptation, which looks like it'll start filming within the next few months.  Per THR...

Pfeiffer would play Elizabeth Collins Stoddard, the reclusive matriarch of the Collins family which runs the Maine town. The character has not left the mansion since the disappearance  of her husband a decade earlier.

Bella Heatcoate, Jackie Earle Haley, and Eva Green have already landed roles (as Victoria Winters, Willie Loomis, and Angelique respectively).  Johnny Depp heads up the cast as vampirical Barnabas Collins.  

Dan Curtis' progenitor soap opera ran from 1966 − 1971 on ABC - THIS Wiki entry contextualizes the series thusly:  

 It was unprecedented in daytime television when ghosts were introduced about six months after it began.

The series became hugely popular when, a year into its run, vampire Barnabas Collins (played by Jonathan Frid) appeared. Dark Shadows also featured werewolves, ghosts, zombies, man-made monsterswitcheswarlockstime travel (both into the past and into the future), and a parallel universe.


DARK SHADOWS is available HERE, but make sure not to get the revival version which starred Ben Cross.  Some episodes of the original are also streamable/available on DVD via Netflix.  

Lara Parker played Angelique (the role  Green is taking) in the show - here's a look at the character in action...


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  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Post (0)

    by The Dum Guy

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST

    About time Burton reteamed with Pfeiffer

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Considering just about every actor from his Batman films have been in his other films.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Burton is the perfect director

    by Unscripted

    Only TB could take this strange, strange series and turn it into a successful film. He has just the twisted, serious (but not too) vision to make it all fly. Wait... did Barnabas ever fly?

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Depp in the lead...

    by -Halfscan-

    imagine that. Pretty sure I am over Burton/Depp teamings for a long while.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Ben Cross Shadows wasn't the best, but it's worth a viewing

    by Yotz Von Frelnik

    Not to mention it's one of the earliest roles of the now uber-coolness that is Joseph gordon-Leavitt.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Michelle Pfeiffer

    by HelmetBoy

    Gets my vote for the sexiest woman of all time.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Didn't like the idea of Burton touching this at all

    by Cagliostro

    But Eva Green as Angelique? Immediate pass. Pfiefer would have been great though, a few years back.

  • Her MILFtastic ass could benefit a few more films.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Depp's in it?

    by Mr Lucas

    Least surprising 'news' of the day. Will he be doing one of his 'hilarious' accents and/or wearing silly hair/make-up as a substitute for acting?

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    I always knew the former...

    by D.Vader

    Only watched some of the Dark Shadows remake on Chiller Network. Never knew of a character named Willie Loomis.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Which Tim Burton is directing

    by Samuel Fulmer

    The one who gave us Ed Wood or the one who gave us the Planet of the Apes remake? I just hope he tones the bad CGI down from his recent films like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Alice in Wonderland.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    I guess dalieldanner has a crystal ball

    by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

    He can already see the future. People were saying the same thing about Nicholson's Joker. Yeah, I rest my case.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    This'll be interesting...

    by allykatD

    When I was a kid, I would come home from school and watch Dark Shadows. It's the only 'soap' opera I've ever watched and remember it fondly. I liked the darkness and the characters, especially Barnabas Collins. I think Depp will do an awesome job. Can't wait to see a trailer.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Burton doing Hammer-style Horror? Great!

    by riskebiz

    Burton was born to direct straight horror. I am glad that his doing so. I hope the comedic-tendecies are finally left behind with this.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:36 p.m. CST

    The original had a budget of what, $2.00 an ep?

    by Damned if I can login

    Love the series, but it was certainly made on the cheap. I have all the DVD sets, including 'The Beginning', and the wife and I loved looking for the glaring mistakes that were the result of shooting with no retakes (for the most part). Three stick out: 1- The werewolf breaks through a window and is supposed to jump over some railing about waist high. He didn't clear it, and the fall that guy suffered is nothing short of epic. 2- Barnabas is about to be bitten by a bat that makes him a vampire. Over on the wall you can see the shadow of a rubber bat hanging from a fishing pole as it's about to enter the scene. Classic. 3- The end credits always ran over a shot of one of the sets used in the ep. During one credit run a grip wearing a flannel shirt, white socks, and horn-rimmed glasses wonders into shot and starts moving things around. Obviously someone behind the cameras frantically waived him out, because he looked up with a 'deer in the headlights' look on his face and bolted.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:38 p.m. CST

    by Dave McConnell

    Joan Bennet played Elizabeth Collins Stoddard in the original not Lara Parker.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Dr. Loomis was named after Sam Loomis from Psycho

    by D.Vader

    Damnit, I shoulda known that.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Depp and Burton again

    by Valaquen

    Something going on there?

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    How I Finally Got Into Dark Shadows (and How You Can Too!)

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    I caught a few episodes of "Dark Shadows" as a kid after seeing Barnabus Collins in Famous Monsters of Filmland, but I could never really get into it because nothing much would ever happen in those 30 minute slots. I kept hearing about vampires, werewolves, witches and ghosts from other kids and teenagers in school, but I never saw much of that when I would watch because the story arcs moved so slowly across the seasons since it was on every day. Years passed and I became a huge Dan Curtis fan, and I wanted to dip my feet into the world of Dark Shadows but I never knew where to begin. Hundreds of hours are on DVD, but I was told to skip Season One since Barnabas and the horror elements didn't appear until the Second Season. Nobody has the Dark Shadows Seasons for rent, and I never wanted to spend $50 to $60 per Season to try it out. Recently, however, the good people at MPI have released two 3 hour, skillfully edited compliation DVDs that cover the series' two major story arcs. The first one, "Dark Shadows: The Vampire Curse" tells the entire story of Barnabus Collins, the history behind his curse and his ressurection at Collinwood. The second release, "Dark Shadows: The Haunting of Collinwood" covers the most popular ghost story of the series involving Quentin Collins in a variation of "Turn of the Screw". Even though these DVDs are cut from many hours down to three, they don't feel choppy and I never felt like I was missing anything. These DVDs are a great blessing for the casual fan who just wants to discover what this whole Dark Shadows cult is about. Now if they would just do another volume to cover the Quentin/werewolf story, I would be a happy camper.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Yeah, but what about that Bieber movie?

    by Beaverduck


  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Is Pfieffer playing Angelique or Elizabeth Collins?

    by sott68

    Pfeiffer would play Elizabeth Collins Stoddard, and Lara Parker played Angelique (the role Pfeiffer is taking)

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:59 p.m. CST

    beaverduck : there is some good in the Bieber movie...

    by The Dum Guy

    They show a clip of the sneezing baby panda video. That never gets old.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Burton is the most overated director of all time

    by Mr Soze

    And Depp can't stay away...If it wasn't for Depp, Burton would be making children Halloween costumes for Walmart. (Poorly) I wonder how much bigger Johnny would be if he wouldn't have done so many Burton films

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Oow I live the idea of cutting out years of

    by UltraTron

    filler and padding. Imagine what could be done with many series. You could make a kickass movie by editing down All in the Family. It wouldn't be very long though. Establish the toilet flush. Then meathead gets yelled at. Then Edith dies and archie has a soliloquy and done

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:03 p.m. CST

    RE: the dum guy

    by Beaverduck


  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST

    And what's wrong with the revival series?

    by Damned if I can login

    I'm a diehard fan of the original, and I loved the remake. It was different, with a more realistic feel to it. Although I didn't care for the removal of Ben/Timothy/Elliot Stokes. I loves me some Thayer David.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Burton and Hammer-style horror.

    by blackwood

    I thought that was SLEEPY HOLLOW.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Another +1 for the Ben Cross remake

    by JonRD463

    I loved it. It was cheesy and hammy in its own right, but I was disappointed that it got canceled. Is it even available on DVD or Blue Ray anywhere?

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    The original series is almost hypnotically creepy...

    by WriteForTheEdit

    ...and to my very young eyes, was pretty scary. If Burton can capture that particular tone of the series, this could be stellar shit. And this cast is just getting better and better. AND THEY BETTER KEEP THE OPENING THEME, GODAMMIT!

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Fuck Tim Burton, gimme Michelle.

    by Ditko

    Burton´s last good film was Big Fish. Everything after that is just Burton playing Burton. Just like Tarantino after Jackie Brown. Michelle...on the other hand...well,well, well, I just can´t tell.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Give Michael Keaton a role!

    by TheMcflyFarm

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Hammer style horror ... without comedy.

    by riskebiz

    Sleepy Hollow had too many scenes played for laughs. I hope Dark Shadows is all-in-out horror.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Wait, I'm confused.

    by blackwood

    "Pfeiffer would play Elizabeth Collins Stoddard" "Eva Green ... as ... Angelique ..." "Lara Parker played Angelique (the role Pfeiffer is taking) in the show "

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Dark shadows

    by Rebel Scumb

    I'm going to have to look this show up, somehow I've never even heard of it.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST


    by blackwood

    That's fair. SLEEPY HOLLOW always felt a bit strange to me, because Depp's Ichabod seemingly wandered from a comedy of manners into a gothic horror. I think that's what Burton was going for. I dig it. Sort of. It would be cool to see Burton do something serious-ish in horror. Wait. Does SWEENEY TODD count?

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:29 p.m. CST


    by Damned if I can login

    Yep, you can get all 13 episodes of the remake in one DVD set. And about the original theme...AGREED! The interesting thing was, the theme was there all along from the beginning, even when the series was just a gothic, Jane Eyre-ish kinda show. Ya just couldn't have chosen a better theme for a scary show, though. My big sister used to torture the kid brother and me by singing it after the folks put us to bed. Good times...good times.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Sounds interesting

    by Rebel Scumb

    I was just skimming through wikipedia, the most interesting thing is how they mention that they first introduced ghosts into the show (the original 60s show) 6 months into its original run. I always thought it would be cool to have a show, or movie series where it jump genres midway through. Like if in American Pie 2 Jason biggs, and stiffler, and shitbreak and the rest all joined the army and got sent to iraq, and it turned into The Hurt Locker Or if Aliens invaded during the third season of Law and Order special victims unit, and the next two seasons were a V type invasion, occupation show.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST

    C'mon "Sleepy Hollow" Burton...we need you!

    by awardgiver

    and the sixties version all the way! That 90's version was terrible and worst of all, boring. And yes, keep that original opening theme!

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST

    So I wonder what the plot will be?

    by Damned if I can login

    I mean, we have the original and the remake that basically tell the same story of Barnabas' discovery. So will they tell the same story *again*? Even so, the 1796 segment of the original series was some of the best TV storytelling, ever. It's also interesting in that the original series often did major changing of the characters and stories on the fly. Like Barnabas was originally only supposed to be on the show for like 8-10 weeks, but the character exploded and they re-vamped his role (pun intended) to be more remorseful and sympathetic. They did the same thing with Quentin, he became extremely popular so they changed everything up and expanded his role as well as the entire plotline of the 1800's segment. Although I found it strange that all the meddling the characters did in the past didn't seem to change *anything* in the present.

  • I was five years old at the time, and I gotta tell ya, I had better

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Re: genre jumping

    by WriteForTheEdit

    I'm all over this concept. That's why I love Franco's "Three's Company" art piece, from Sundance, where he treats that show as a serious drama. I'd love to make a big-budget "Gilligan's Island" movie, but treat it as a "Castaway/Lord of the Flies" mash-up, the same characters, but played dead serious, with all sorts of life-threatening conflicts. The "Mrs. Howell" death scene could be epic.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:53 p.m. CST

    get me...

    by emeraldboy

    johnny depp and my wife on the phone.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:57 p.m. CST

    rebel scum...

    by Damned if I can login

    As I said in a post above, the original plot of the series was a gothic soap, with simple intrigue of the characters' pasts as the primary thrust of the plot. To say the least, it was they just started playing with a couple of ideas. They started the supernatural stuff slowly at first. Although pretty much from the start, David Collins always said that Josette Collins' ghost was his friend at the Old House, long before the series was full-on supernatural. The very first thing they did was, on one episode they had a book on a table open up by itself. I believe it was the Collins family history. Then in one ep they finally showed the glowing ghost of Josette, dancing in the moonlight at the old house. And when Matthew Morgan kidnapped Victoria Winters and was about to murder her, Josette's ghost intervened and saved her, killing Morgan in the process. The second plotline was when David Collins' missing mother shows up, and we find she is a "Phoenix". OK, that plot was on the lame side. But the 3rd plot was the original vampire story with an evil Barnabas, and it rocked.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST

    There was a 2004 pilot?!?!

    by WriteForTheEdit

    With Kelly Hu?!?! Damn, I gotta see that...

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Dark Shadows 04 pilot

    by omarthesnake

    Yep, seen it. havent seen it online, dont have a copy of it myself, but seen it. You ain't missing much. (that said, I know as a fan i'd still be searching for it). My memories are a bit hazy but i remember 'cliche, cliche, cliche, alleged twist ending you could see coming a mile away'....

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 2:14 p.m. CST

    damned if i can login - you just put this on my Netflix queue

    by Cletus Van Damme

    I need to see a good werewolf wipeout. This shit reminds me of the old VHS movies my friends and I made for English class. They were for extra credit and our immaturity and amateurishness consistently netted us zeroes, but they were a blast to make.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 2:16 p.m. CST're just now asking?

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Props to Pfeif for not going the plastic surgery route.

    by AzulTool

    Unlike that fishfaced Meg Ryan, jeez.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 2:27 p.m. CST

    @ Cletus

    by Valaquen

    Fair point.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST

    What does this have to do with Justin Bieber?

    by MattmanReturns

    Robocop's way too cool for this site.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Thanks guys for the DS info

    by Rebel Scumb

    I will check it out. Sounds intriguing. I'm glad you like the genre jumping writefortheedit Hopefully this new movie is good, from the way everyone is describing it, it seems like it would work better as a tv show, but still, could be cool.

  • I cant shake that the Lost writers got something from the final and the excalibur/cork business out of that pilot though.<p>Is it sad if you've been pouring through the VERY beginning of Dark Shadows in your spare time as of the last 3 yrs if your a 26 yr old man?

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Cletus, start with ep 211

    by Damned if I can login

    That's where Barnabas is introduced. Stick with it.....shortly after the 1st thread with Maggie Evans is resolved Victoria Winters time travels back to 1795, and from there it shifts into high gear. GREAT stuff, just great. But bear in mind, not all the threads are as good as 1795. Look for boom mics in shot. Pretty much a regular thing. Cameras spin around, zoom out of focus, or just fly off of the shot completely. None of these errors were removed, they're all there. There is sequence where a fly is buzzing Barnabas' face, and despite his best efforts Jonathan Frid can't brush it off. Absolutely hilarious. The werewolf bit is a good deal down the road, during the Chris Jennings thread. If you can stick with the show you'll get to it. Sometimes the actors were called by their real names! In one scene, some walk-on extra has one line: "I'm here to see Mr. Barnabas." He says, "I'm here to see Mr. Jonathon." Continual, ubiquitous flubbing of dialogue. Watch the actors...the script was usually available to them if they forgot their lines, but it was with only one camera and too often that wasn't the camera in use. So you'll see them attempting to look over at the camera with the script, trying not to look too goofy while doing it. Although too many lines were dropped to mention, I do have one fave: Barnabas and Josette (in 1795) are arguing as to why Josette jilted him for his Uncle. They were firing questions at each other in rapid succession, and when the fast lines are flyin' it's a safe bet somebody's gonna flub one. It's something like this: Josette: "I never intended to hurt you!" Barnabas: "But did you intend to steal............steal................STEAL yourself away from me???" OK...he salvaged it, but *barely*. I recall roaring with laughter. "Did you intend to steal yourself away from me." I just love much that I wrote a song with that title.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST

    smack_teddy, no it's not sad at all.

    by Damned if I can login

    If it were Dora the Explorer, well....OK. And I speak from experience, when you're a parent you end up watching shit you *never* thought you'd be watching. At least now she's watching iCarly and Victorious, and that's not nearly so bad. Hey, those Victorious gals are lookin' pretty sharp these days....

  • I'm Canadian to. Maybe that explains me. On the plus side though, Tricia Helfer and Evangeline Lilly are Canadian to, so I should manage okay.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Michelle Pfeiffer in Grease 2: The Zenith of Hotness

    by The Krypton Kid

    Nothing more needs to be said.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the tip, Austinite!

    by captaincosmos

    Like you, I had always seen Barnabas in horror mags as a kid, but my small town stations never played the show in syndication, so I was never able to actually watch it as a kid. Then just last week at work, I was working on a bio for David Selby, who got his big break as Quentin on the show. I started obsessing on the Dark Shadows stuff during my research and discovered the 2nd and 3rd seasons on Netflix Instant View. I told my daughters about this cool old horror show (I'm raising 'em to be horror geeks, just like their old man), and soon they were begging me to put it on. So... they watched ep. 211 (Barnabas' intro), and were absolutely rapted! So I let them watch a few more eps, which they thought were okay, but you're right about the plot points moving verrrrrry slowly over the course of the show. After watching a few more eps, my oldest (7), was like, "Dad, pretty much all they were doing that last episode was talking. I'm not really sure what's going on. I thought you said that guy with the ring was a vampire?" Anyway, I'm going to try and track down that condensed version you mentioned above. That sounds perfect. As far as the Burton - Depp remake of D.S. goes... Eh, fine with them giving it a shot. If anyone can do it, it's those guys (I guess Depp has been totally obsessed with playing Barnabas for years and years). But I haven't truly enjoyed a Burton film in a long, long while. If he can dial back the camp aspects a bit (although melodrama is needed), and really crank up the gothic atmosphere, plus give us a bit of gore, then... sure, I'd love to see it done right. We'll see. Not holding my breath.

  • No, not really.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 3:37 p.m. CST

    by Geekgasm

    I've never heard of Bella Heatcoate, but Jackie Earle Haley and Eva Green are excellent casting for Willie Loomis and Angelique Bouchard.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Did Tim Burton create Helena Bonham carter in a lab?

    by Rebel Scumb

    Years before they hooked up and started working together, I remember thinking she seemed like she had been conjuered into the world from the mind of Tim Burton. He was with that really hot piece of ass before her, I forget her name, but she played the kid version of Johnny Depp's character's big breast mom in all the flashbacks in sleepyhollow.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST

    The 1991 series

    by Geekgasm

    I liked it too.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 3:59 p.m. CST

    good, thanks

    by Smack_Teddy

    yep, for that reason i am really glad for being introduced to Avatar: TLA, don't know who i am anymore by simple fact i would even watch a show like How I Met Your Mother, but am pretty sure i have done permanent damage to my insides by containing my contempt for Xmen 3 & Wolverine: Origions etc. <p> I'm not sure what that ICarly & Victorious is, but we have this kids show where literally everything is a shiny shiny sparkling cusion-diamond or jewel in a viva pinata style of its own and has the most ambient, jazzed out borderline brain-washing/synthesising music and sounds with creatures called 'Boom-bahs' or something that look like a cross between a Xmas tree & Totoro, which you will trip your balls off on sober-and- tired-after-work to begin with. It has this tone & hypnotic chiilout meditaitve quality like a cross between 'Plankton'& 'Spore'(videogames) that makes you convinced the demonheadmaster is finally coming for all your kiddies or something, but its amazing.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 4:08 p.m. CST

    I'm all for Michelle Pfeiffer but...

    by Tug

    read somewhere else that Helena Bonham Carter is also up for a part and really wish Burton would stop casting his baby mama in everything. Carter is a fine actress, but Burton needs to think outside the box and stop being so predictable with his productions and casting, Depp and Carter basically play the same two characters no matter what Burton movie they're in. Pfeiffer will be a welcomed change, not to mention the woman doesn't seem to age, she's still a knockout.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 4:10 p.m. CST


    by Damned if I can login

    Y'know...I don't recall that happening to Jerry Lacey! An unfortunately I've loaned my brother all the DVD sets and I can't check it. But there were *so* many things like that on the series I can't even try to remember them all. I do recall a bit from that very scene you mentioned though, where Trask is exorcising Collinwood, and it was this LOOONG dialogue sequence with just him talking. Of course, he forgets his lines, and the camera with the scipt is *behind* him. He had no choice but to turn around 180 degrees, find the camera with the script and get his next line, and it's VERY noticeable. I saw Jerry Lacey in an interview and he discussed that incident with much humor.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 4:17 p.m. CST


    by Damned if I can login

    It's interesting you mention how *slow* the show moved. In truth, that's not really accurate...DS actually moved very fast as compared to other soap operas. If you read up on the show that point is usually discussed, the fact that they moved the plot along significantly each week, and that if you missed a week of eps you'd struggle to catch up. Although one must remember that it is a soap opera after all, and that implies "meandering" plots. Still, pretty speedy as compared to others.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 4:21 p.m. CST

    love dark shadows!!! gonna be the best movie eva!!!!!!!!

    by vulturess

    barnabas was always forgetting his lines and julia was always stressed out and flubbing hers or helping frid remember his. there was always a boom mike that would suddenly appear moving down into view from above. lol. i think the boom mike holder guy was like drunk all the time. lol. wonder if burton and depp r gonna go that way or serious. love the movies they made too. cant wait.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Godzilla 98 was crap

    by dopepope

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 4:43 p.m. CST

    A selfish question

    by Smack_Teddy

    Would you like the sound of a Dark Shadows show set in the South West Country of the UK? That would be the heartland of Glastonbury/Avalon by the way... I know lost, true blood and other shows have pretty much mined all those plot devices and phenomena such as Parallel Universes and the supernatural, but could you furthur stomach the idea of a obvious Dark Shadows series set in that universe but not using the name or paying the legal fees, set in the heart of the South West country UK respectivly? Would that sound like a show you'd be really interested in as long as it was 'good', or a show with no good or origional ideas of its own for example?'Would local mythology and history work for or against that? Feel free to ignore me and not reply to this slighty off topic post...a guy tunred up in Glastonbury who loves Lost & Dark Shadows and wanted to make a vampire show called Avalon alright? I felt exactly the same way almost. He seemed to or presented himself at least as having genuine proffessional intentions. So i'm curious<p>

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 4:52 p.m. CST


    by MattmanReturns

    Did someone other than Harry Knowles say otherwise?

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 5 p.m. CST

    smack teddy

    by Rebel Scumb

    If it was good I'd watch it. I'll watch anything as long as the quality is there. As for HBC, I know that Eva Green has wanted to work with Tim Burton for a long time, maybe she will become his new muse, and he'll dump HBC, although its hard to imagine anyone being more TimBurtony then HBC.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 5:49 p.m. CST

    I know everyone will be shocked but...

    by Wormie1

    Helena is going to be in Dark Shadows! I bet Michael Keaton sits at home brooding (like in Batman Returns) and seething that Burton casts his missus and Mr Depp every time, remembering when he was Tim's "number one guy"! Seriously, I would like to see Burton tackle some original material again, and cast some actors other than his two faves. I mean, I like them both, but this is becoming a bit like, yeah, he's using them again, yawn!

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Remember before the PotC movies when Depp...

    by Rebel Scumb

    was this cool actor who always turned in a unique performance, and was not acknowledged at all by mainstream audiences? He took risky roles and was always someone to be excited about having a new film in the works. Ever since PotC he's become so popular with the mainstream he just seems so bland now. Like Anthony Hopikins, and Samuel L Jackson, and Harrison ford, and lots of other stars who seem to be just phoning it in now to collect pay cheques.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 6:52 p.m. CST


    by Rebel Scumb

    I like Helena Bonham Carter, don't get me wrong, and for all the reasons you mentioned. I'm more just poking fun at Tim Burton

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 7:18 p.m. CST

    mcgoohan, rebel scum

    by Smack_Teddy


  • Feb. 15, 2011, 7:23 p.m. CST

    as long as they capture the spirit & feel of the 'origional'

    by Smack_Teddy

    i don't give a damn if the director casts his wife in this. As long as it works.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST

    I saw every Burton film theatrically up through Planet of the Apes

    by Yaroh_Meringue

    and then only Charlie & the Chocolate Factory after that. creepythinmanlives has just summed up why. Nice job.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 8:04 p.m. CST

    I haven't seen sweeny todd yet either

    by Rebel Scumb

    or alice, or charlie in the chocolate factory He hasn't really impressed me with anything since sleepy hollow. scratch that, i did like Big fish, but at the same time wouldnt need to see it a second time. The Nightmare before christmas is still one of my favorite films though.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Eva Green is Angelique

    by Oldnewbie

    I hope this doesn't get lost in the morass of vampire shows and movies out there now. Barnabas was the original "hero" monster; a vampire with deep regrets about being one, yet overcome by bloodlust when the need arose. He would go on to truly be the show's hero as he traveled back in time to save the family's future, not once, but twice! I don't know what angle Burton plans to take; the easiest would be to remake "House of Dark Shadows" which concentrates on Barnabas' resurrection and his love for Josette whom he sees a resemblance in present day Maggie Evans. Getting into the complexities of the soap, which work in a soap, would not be possible. But leaving it a simple vampire\human love story echoes too much of what is currently going on. Good luck Tim!!

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was the last one I saw in a THEATER

    by Yaroh_Meringue

    Read carefully.

  • to someone who just says "ah, I'll catch it as a rental"

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Which wasn't at all clear from my original post.

    by Yaroh_Meringue


  • Feb. 15, 2011, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Big Fish left you emotionless???

    by D.Vader

    Damn, that's cold. I thought, out of all his movies, that would be the one that would move the most hardened viewer to an emotional response by the end.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 9:38 p.m. CST

    the 1991 revival is available on dvd

    by j2talk

    for those that liked it..kinda cheesy,but fun,its a shame it didnt last longer

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Ben Cross Revival Series Smacked Around The Old Show and . . .

    by Antimaster

    made it cry for its mommy. Merrick has no friggin' clue what he's talking about. The original jumped 100 sharks along the way and was a caricature of itself by the 4th season. NBC relegated Dark Shadows to the Friday Night Death Slot in the early 1990's. THAT is why it failed. Think I'll go pull that out right now as an "up yours" to the haters.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 11:15 p.m. CST

    The 90's version

    by dukeroberts

    I thought the 90's version was pretty damn good too. And Michelle Pfeiffer: I have seen Grease 2 several times. Not the whole thing mind you, but the "Cool Rider" scene is Michelle Pfeiffer all out gorgeous and sexy, slinking up and down a ladder in tight black pants. She is among the most beautiful women to ever grace the big screen.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Surprised no one has mentioned...

    by eustisclay

    ...the Dark Shadows movies. The second one isn't very good(no Frid) but the first one, House of Dark Shadows, is a pretty good Hammer style, bloody vampire flick. They need to be on dvd.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 11:42 p.m. CST

    90s version

    by awardgiver

    You gotta do better than just say "ooo it kicked ass, fuck the haters" than to convince anyone that it was any good. And Barnabas lacked charm and never made you empathize with him. It was boring as hell. If it was truly good, the show would've survived no matter what night it was on. No one watched it, (and many of us tried back then), but we stopped caring. It sucked, and those were the reasons. Drive by bitching and shit talking with no explanations doesn't convince anyone of anything.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 11:58 p.m. CST

    90s version

    by Geekgasm

    Here's the thing - I'm a busy man. I got a lot going on in my life. Drive by shit talking is all I got time for. I liked the 1991 series. It was far from perfect but I enjoyed it for what it was - high production values, a quality cast, nice moody atmosphere, and some excellent direction by guys like Rob Bowman who really knew what they were doing. Bang. There's your nutshell. Take it or leave it. I have neither the time nor the inclination to engage is a protracted back and forth trying to justify why I liked it and don't think it was shit. I've got more important things to do. That doesn't mean my opinion is any less valid than anybody elses.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 12:44 a.m. CST

    braindrain, you know she was in burton movies

    by pw

    before they got married right? She is a great actress and perfect for the worlds he creates. Stop being such a dumbass.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 2:56 a.m. CST

    as predictable as ever

    by pw

    You continue. Oh dear.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 3:01 a.m. CST

    braindrain, so first you insinuating she is in lots

    by pw

    of his films and now saying she is not in many at all? Even you don't know what the fuck you are talking about anymore. Make up your fucking mind, you goof.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 3:45 a.m. CST

    taking pot shots at filmmakers, actresses, directors and writers

    by emeraldboy

    is not film criticism. this is a film website. criticise films. not the people who make them. this site is redundant for years. elton john does have a film out called Gnomeo and juliet. as does justin bieber. justin who?

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 4:27 a.m. CST

    Another remake from a cliche genre

    by Red

    Again Hollywood can't come up with anything original AND they hop on the cliche vampire bandwagon. Burton better be out to break the mold on this, because his work IMO has been quite sub-par of late.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 7:21 a.m. CST

    A few random thoughts

    by Rebel Scumb

    I've had a fever all night, so forgive me if I'm even less coherent then usual. -According to the brief research I did online yesterday regarding dark shadows to get up to speed, Depp has wanted to play Barnabas since he was a kid, its his obsession, so I don't see this movie is jumping on the bandwagon. From the sounds of it, he and Burton have been wanting to do this flick for a long time. -I actually really loved Mars Attacks, but thats just me. -My concern with this movie would only be, that from the sounds of it, what was so great about the original was its big complicated soap opera format, which doesn't work in a 2 hour movie, because there isn't time to do those prolonged drawn out stories. The same way that if they tried to make a movie remake of LOST in 30 years, I don't see how it would work. Where do you begin? Which characters do you focus on? What stories do you overlook? Which do you include? I mean Days of our lives is really popular, but I can't see them ever making a movie of that, for the same reason. The appeal of soap type shows IS the serial nature, the cliffhangers, the twists, the long story that never really ends, characters coming and going. Its actually the same appeal as comicbooks. -However, based on the material itself, Burton does seem like the perfect person to do it, and if its Depps dream project, then more power to him. Although what would be better is if Burton, and this cast he assembled went to HBO and did this as a series. More and more movie stars are doing TV nowadays anyhow. Hell the boardwalk empire was directed by Scorese, he's about as high up the directors foodchain as you can go, so no director or actor should feel its beneath them. In my opinion thats where most of the quality writing is now anyways. -Anyways, I'm all for anything that gets Eva Green on the big screen. -I realized why I've never heard about this show before. Because there was also that scifi show called Dark Skies, and I think whenever I hear people mention Dark Shadows, I get the titles mixed up and assume thats what they're talking about.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 7:21 a.m. CST

    A few random thoughts

    by Rebel Scumb

    I've had a fever all night, so forgive me if I'm even less coherent then usual. -According to the brief research I did online yesterday regarding dark shadows to get up to speed, Depp has wanted to play Barnabas since he was a kid, its his obsession, so I don't see this movie is jumping on the bandwagon. From the sounds of it, he and Burton have been wanting to do this flick for a long time. -I actually really loved Mars Attacks, but thats just me. -My concern with this movie would only be, that from the sounds of it, what was so great about the original was its big complicated soap opera format, which doesn't work in a 2 hour movie, because there isn't time to do those prolonged drawn out stories. The same way that if they tried to make a movie remake of LOST in 30 years, I don't see how it would work. Where do you begin? Which characters do you focus on? What stories do you overlook? Which do you include? I mean Days of our lives is really popular, but I can't see them ever making a movie of that, for the same reason. The appeal of soap type shows IS the serial nature, the cliffhangers, the twists, the long story that never really ends, characters coming and going. Its actually the same appeal as comicbooks. -However, based on the material itself, Burton does seem like the perfect person to do it, and if its Depps dream project, then more power to him. Although what would be better is if Burton, and this cast he assembled went to HBO and did this as a series. More and more movie stars are doing TV nowadays anyhow. Hell the boardwalk empire was directed by Scorese, he's about as high up the directors foodchain as you can go, so no director or actor should feel its beneath them. In my opinion thats where most of the quality writing is now anyways. -Anyways, I'm all for anything that gets Eva Green on the big screen. -I realized why I've never heard about this show before. Because there was also that scifi show called Dark Skies, and I think whenever I hear people mention Dark Shadows, I get the titles mixed up and assume thats what they're talking about.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 7:34 a.m. CST


    by bat725


  • Feb. 16, 2011, 7:52 a.m. CST

    1970 Feature Film

    by Stan Arthur

    House of Dark Shadows directed by Dan Curtis is fantastic. Saw it in the theater and bought the VHS tape ten years ago. Still not available on DVD, but Amazon has it on instant watch.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Doctor Julia Hoffman

    by The Alienist

    According to the New York Times spread sheet on the piece, Helen Bonham Carter is playing Julia.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Best line of the series

    by MichaelH

    Barnabas to guy that just shot him with a wooden crossbow dart: "You missed my heart!"

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST


    by Damned if I can login

    That would be Lt. Nathan Forbes, who was at one time a friend of Barnabas. I loved the way they never showed Barnanbas killing anyone, they would cut to a scene and you'd see body on the floor in the background. Of course, Forbes bought it.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 12:03 p.m. CST

    I am so tired of Johnny Depp. Especially in Burton flicks.

    by Snake Foreskin

    Come to think of it, I'm so tired of Burton flicks, too.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Tim Burton can go get fucked.

    by AsimovLives

    And i used to be a fan. Not anymore.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST

    With House of DS, that makes three tellings

    by Damned if I can login

    The original, House of DS, and the 91 revival all told the same basic story. That makes me wonder where they would go with the new film. Any word on who would play some of the other major roles, such as: Victoria Winters? Maggie Evans? Carolyn Stoddard? Stokes? Oh, and I saw Night of Dark Shadows at the theater when I was like, 10. Scared the living crap outta least what I saw. I spent most of the movie hiding behind a seat. I would say good times....but that don't apply here. Not one of my more cherished childhood memories.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST

    nathan fillion as adams heartbeat!!!

    by vulturess

    bill murray as stokes!!!!! joseph gordon levitt as quentins muttonchops!

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 2:46 p.m. CST

    oo i'll refute some that about the 1991 revival

    by Smack_Teddy

    its not fair to say "nothing like" at all come to think of it, the lighting, lensing and editing, the whole design, is pretty darn gorgeous in alot of places actually

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Something needs to fuel that demented Burton spirit

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    C'mon, of course he was the "quirky visualist" of studio choice when he was given POTA, Willie Wonka and Alice. I recently watched Batman Returns and Ed Wood again, and each had the spirit of Burton, without the millions of dollars of CGI spent to duplicate the look of Burton. Maybe something that he can take the seed of, like Dark Shadows, and turn into his own. If not, then I'm afraid he is lost.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 3:18 p.m. CST

    aye braindrain

    by Smack_Teddy

    im in between watching it from the pilot again and that set design and the lighting style-design in general is pretty amazing

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 3:18 p.m. CST

    the music too

    by Smack_Teddy

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Well mcgoocain...

    by Damned if I can login are certainly correct about that. Oh, here's a good reason to get the 91 revival. Ely Pouget. Her Maggie Evans is smuggling *major* raisins there. I know...with all the free porn online that's not much of a reason. But what the hell....even with all the online stuff I still get a kick outta raisin smugglin'...heh.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Isn't True Blood just a 21st Century Dark Shadows?

    by Royston Lodge

    I have trouble picturing how he can successfully compress a daytime soap opera that ran for five years into a big screen movie. I fear a vampire version of the A-Team movie.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST

    What's next? A Forever Knight movie?

    by Royston Lodge

    'nuff said.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Bill Compton/Eric and Barnabus yes

    by Smack_Teddy

    But True Blood always seemed more couldnt defend it against the "Dallas with Vampires" jibe. Lost or Fringe meanwhile takers the ghosts/paralell universes etc and arguably mines even more, at superficially plot-wise. I would love to see a serialised Dark Shadows again, but i would also love to see a real return to form for Burton...i wonder which is more likely; just hope they don't use a script thats garbage. If the script isnt right and doesnt capture what Dark Shadows really was...pleased don't just churn it out like Alice or Planet of the Apes

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Willie is good, yes!

    by Smack_Teddy

    I also agree with people that Ben Cross is awwsome as Barnaby n his own right...Josepth Gordon Leviitt is also a very good pick for a child actor who doesnt pull you out of the me real cravings for Fright Night now

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Michael Keaton should be Barnabus not pretty boy Depp

    by chien_sale

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 6:46 p.m. CST

    I hope Pfeiffer will be better than in Stardust

    by chien_sale

    so so bad and cartoonish.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 6:48 p.m. CST

    btw, the Ben Cross take was pretty solid

    by chien_sale

    Victoria Winters was hot as Hell in this

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 9:08 p.m. CST

    I bet Christopher Lee plays Barnabus.

    by Royston Lodge

    That is, if he WANTS to play a vampire again.

  • Feb. 17, 2011, 12:34 p.m. CST


    by Damned if I can login

    Not exactly accurate. House of DS told the story of Willie discovering Barnabas and the ensuing mayhem. I believe it was more similar to the original thread for Barnabas' character, before they decided to make him a permanent cast member. And, it was far more graphic and frightening than the original soap.

  • Feb. 21, 2011, 12:31 p.m. CST

    don't bother with the 2004 Pilot

    by Geoffrey Kahler

    It's probably best to avoid it. They only show it at the festivals, and it's terrible. There was a reason it didn't get picked up. The best thing to come out of it was Alec Newman playing Barnabas, as he got to do that in the radio plays after the pilot turned out to be complete crap. Heres how it ends: someone, i don't remember who, is driving along in their car and hits a woman with her car. I think the woman she its is supposed to be angelique. Anyways there is a decapitation involved and the severed head screaming. Applause was muted.

  • April 7, 2011, 11:17 p.m. CST

    cant wait

    by JaredP

    johnny is going to be awesome in this film. i wonder if angelique will be the big bad of the fim the way she was on the show