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Solo4357 Calls ALL-STAR SUPERMAN DC’s Best Direct-To-Blu Movie Yet!!

Published at: Feb. 12, 2011, 5:11 p.m. CST


 

I am – Hercules!!

Longtime readers know I adore Grant Morrison’s “All-Star Superman” graphic novels; I think they’re the best Man of Steel stories since Alan Moore’s final Earth One tales in the mid-1980s.

Yesterday I got three things from the Fed Ex man: the new SNL doc, the two-hour re-launch of “The Event” and the animated version of “All-Star Superman.”

I watched the SNL doc last night so I could append it to the Saturday SNL post. Now that I’ve read Solo4357’s review, I guess I know what I’ll be watching next:

Hey Herc, it’s Solo4357 with another review.

All Star Superman is a new movie from the Bruce Timm DC Factory of Wonders. I’m an avowed fan of the original Batman:TAS, Superman:TAS, Batman Beyond, Justice League, and Justice League Unlimited. This is probably the closest thing we’ll ever have to an animated comic book. The series built upon what came before and by the time JLU came, it was a treasure trove of DC cameos and callbacks to previous series. Even one that was set in the future!

Once the series got the axe, Timmco decided to set their sights on various stories and graphic novels in the DC universe and Elseworlds, to varying success. Superman Doomsday was an entertaining affair but lacking the depth (understandably) of the nearly 2 years, four books, 754 thousand characters that the original story had. Wonder Woman worked well but wasn’t superlative. Green Lantern: First Flight was lacking. The less said about the Batman: Gotham Knight.. the better. The two Superman/Batman movies, Public Enemies and Apocalypse, managed to rise above their weaker aspects to be enjoyable. Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths was very good and even better if viewed as a bridge between Justice League and JLU as it was originally meant to be. But two movies have really stood out.

Batman: Under the Red Hood was an amazing retelling of the return of Jason Todd (spoiler! He’s alive!) and managed to reach epic proportions due to the emotion involving all the characters involved. It really worked and had me hooked. But like all the others, due to the fact there was the obligatory “everyone lives to fight another day” it doesn’t have quite the finality to it that All Star Superman has. Finally there’s Justice League: New Frontier. This movie surprisingly is the only other movie that is based on a self contained graphic novel. Elseworlds, or whatever you like to call it. Darwin Cooke’s novel was supremely enjoyable and his art and style translated well to the screen. Or Blu-ray as it were. The changes were negligible and remains the finest adaptation Timmco has done.

Until now.

All-Star Superman, the novel, is probably one of the best Superman stories ever told in any medium. If not the best. Grant Morrison has had his ups and downs (can anyone figure out what the fuck went on in Final Crisis without consulting Wikipedia?) and Frank Quietly’s art has always had a rumpled quality that I generally find messy. But the two of them together created a Superman story that topped nearly everything that came before. They captured the essence of the different ages of Superman and distilled them down to twelve issues of Super-goodness that works in every way. The silliness of silver age. The love between Clark and Lois. The complete change of personality and look of Clark Kent. And Superman’s tireless work to keep us all safe. It all works.

Adapting this is definitely a challenge because the silent, stilted, slow pace of a comic novel is not the same as fluid, quick and noisy pace of a movie. What would change? Now spoilers are a given from here on out but I’m assuming anyone who’s read this far is quite familiar with the original story so… deal with it.

First things first. The underworld is totally missing. No Bizarro. No Zibarro. No Unjustice League. All of it gone. You won’t miss it. Flashback story with the death of Jonathan Kent and the future Supermen is also gone. You might miss it but it didn’t deter from the movie for me. Earth Q is gone.

In fact the whole idea of the 12 labors of Superman is not really there, at least not so upfront like it was in the novel. And there are some dialogue tweaks that make little difference. The story otherwise is spot one with what’s left and thanks to audio and music score helps move this movie to epic. It retains all of the tone and sweeping finality that the original novel has. It works on nearly every level and is the most enjoyable movie Timmco has produced yet. Faithful as much as it can be given its 70 minute runtime. As a movie, it never feels “straight-to-DVD”, it could be released in theaters. The voice work is spot on. Each and every voice works. Using Tim Daly or anyone else who previously voiced Superman (and did it well I might add) would’ve been out of place here. The character designs never veer much from Quietly’s designs however the movie does iron the wrinkles out, so to speak. Again, a necessary sacrifice for animation.

There is however one moment I didn’t like and a major change I found odd. The moment I didn’t like, a small moment: After Superman defeats Solaris in the book, Solaris asks for mercy. Superman tells him he will live, he will change his ways and work with to help earth. He will live! This is a bittersweet moment in the book because Superman knows that he himself won’t live. But yet he still imparts hope. Superman never gives up, no matter what. It’s part of his essence and the twelve labors of Superman demonstrated that in the face of impending death, he never gives up. The last panel in the novel is him still working, still trying. In the movie, when Solaris asks for mercy, Superman simply replies “I don’t think I have any left.” This was so defeatist, so utterly devoid of hope, I found it totally off putting and out of character. Superman without mercy? It’s a change I cannot even begin to explain. It’s a minor moment in the course of the story and had no bearing on the ending, which makes it all the more baffling.

The major change: In the book, Luthor is defeated, cursing Superman’s name and continuing to rail against the unfairness of it all. That’s it. In the movie, Luthor realizes how everything’s connected, how Superman sees the world and how wrong he’s been. He’s visited by Dr. Quintum and Lex gives him Superman’s genetic code. He’ll still be executed but has finally reformed. His last act will create the future Supermen who will undoubtedly save the world. So in turn Lex will have finally saved the world. I honestly don’t know how to feel about this change. So perhaps the talkbackers can refrain from the usual “I’m right, you’re wrong” back and forth and give their opinions.

Still all in all, this is an impressive adaptation and well worth your time. I’d put it at the top of the all movies they’ve put out so far. Well done Timmco. Keep ‘em coming.

"All-Star Superman" hits shelves Feb. 22.

 

 

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  • Feb. 12, 2011, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Furst

    by TheUmpireStrokesBach

    Anton...

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Looking forward to this.

    by jedimast3r

    Hate Grant Morrison with a fucking passion, but this was an enjoyable read. Certainly overhyped and overplayed, as any 2-decade-plus reader of comics such as myself can tell you. But a decent book nonetheless. <p>The changes described are disappointing, but hopefully the movie as a whole will impress.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Hope they do All Star Batman & Robin

    by knightrider

    I'm the Goddamn Batman!

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 5:30 p.m. CST

    WOW

    by 2soon2eat

    What can I say? My favorite Superman story now the best animated Super Story. WOW

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Nice Review...

    by mansuper

    The comics were great. I've already added this to my queue on Netflix.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST

    It's Pretty Good

    by Briestro

    I watched it earlier today. He is incredibly overrating it though. So much of this movie just baits and switches, and brings in elements that mean absolutely nothing in the story as a whole. Far from the best direct to dvd movie. I'll take GL way over this one. I've also enjoyed half of the Batman stuff more than this, too. Of course it's far better than Superman/Doomsday LOL. It seems to me he isn't basing this on the movie at all, but just as a fan of the series it's based on. I purposefully didn't read it before this movie hit. I will now. Check it out, it's cool, but flawed. Maybe it just should have been 120 minutes, and some of the nonsense would have been fleshed out more. Can anybody tell me what the point of the Kryptonians are? About a 7 minute meaningless plot device that was. The music was great. Very notable. Another worthy addition to the DC animated movies. I am currently enjoying Young Justice as well. B

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 5:55 p.m. CST

    AICN not gonna report on Nolan's Howard Hughes movie?

    by MattmanReturns

    Nothing?

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Frank Quietly - messy?

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Are you out of your mind?

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST

    No live action Supes movie will come close to how cool this is.

    by the Green Gargantua

    (Because they cling so tightly to Donner's dick.)

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST

    "Hate Grant Morrison with a fucking passion"- because you are retarded,

    by the Green Gargantua

    or mentally disabled and unable to absorb what he does.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 6:11 p.m. CST

    I quite like that new Luthor ending....

    by Righteous Brother

    shame there's no Supermen of the future though - I liked that issue. Now howabout a full length Dark Knight Returns?

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Ok just watched the trailer on Youtube....

    by Righteous Brother

    It's not even close to theatrical release quality, it just looks like all the other crap DC and Marvel release.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 6:21 p.m. CST

    No Jonathan Kent?

    by talkingmonkey

    I find it very off-putting that they would cut the Superman Squad, Jonathan Kent's death, and Earth Q from the story. Those are what I would consider to be the lynch pins of the whole story, to the point where I can't imagine how it can work at all(let alone work well) without those elements.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 6:44 p.m. CST

    those who crave a great superhero film should check out HERO TOMORROW

    by Daniel_S_Duvall

    www.herotomorrow.com/movie

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Hopefully Zack Snyder's movie holds up!!

    by darthwaz1

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 6:49 p.m. CST

    I'M RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG!!!

    by otakuoverlord

    Definitely looking forward to this one showing up at my local redbox next month...

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 6:58 p.m. CST

    No, I'M right and YOU'RE wrong!!! >:O

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    And yes, Quitely, art IS messy and rumpled looking. All of his lines look like they were done in "Squiggle-Vision," as if his stuff were drawn by Katherine Hepburn during an earthquake. Plus, he draws some of the UGLIEST heroes ever put on paper. They all have the same broken noses and huge thug-like jaws you'd find at a casting call for leg breakers. That said, he IS a talented artist. But you know going in exactly what to expect from his work: Huge, squiggly-drawn thugs in long underwear.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 7:01 p.m. CST

    One of the greatest stories of the Greatest Hero Who Ever Lived!

    by The Krypton Kid

    Cannot wait for Jan. 22!!!

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 7:08 p.m. CST

    not sure what he was watching

    by john

    the dvd has been leaked online, and while the animation is the best yet (as it uses the quitely character designs) the format causes the entire story to be rushed, leaves out some of the coolest parts of the comic, and the voice acting (for the most part) sux.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 7:25 p.m. CST

    I just added it to my netflix cue

    by BobParr

    They don't even have a release date yet.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 7:27 p.m. CST

    You're ALL FUCKING WRONG!!!!!

    by Nomoredirtyanything

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Wonder Women deserves more than faint praise

    by Drath

    It was solid, a real kick ass movie for WW and for DC in general, and it was BETTER than New Frontiers--which had a tone of pacing issues and an overcrowded plot. Wonder Woman, Crisis on Two Earths, and Under the Red Hood have all been excellent. The others were good to blah, but those three have been outstanding.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Fuck DNR... KINGDOM COME...

    by UGABugKiller

    ... Kingdom Come is what should come next. A two-part, 4-hour masterpiece. Kingdom Come is my favorite graphic novel and DC Elseworlds story. If they can do it and find a way to do it in Alex Ross's style, good lord, it would be spectacular!

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 7:44 p.m. CST

    THE EXCLUSIVE TOY AT BEST BUY IS KINDA MEH

    by Meadowe

    He's in some space suit or something, don't quote me on that. But I'll give this a shot. And imo the only thing I don't like about Quietly's work is the trunks on Batman and Superman's costumes. Look like the male equivalent of granny panties.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 7:56 p.m. CST

    Why are all these animated films so short?

    by Jesiah

    I see some complaints about characters and story plots being taken out, and last time I checked all the dc animated movies I have clock in at around an hour and ten-fifteen minutes tops. Even having it go to 1 and a half hours would showcase some of the things people in here miss. I remember at the comic store, a guy was telling me he liked Superman/Batman Public Enemies but didn't like that the whole subplot about Metallo might have been the guy to kill Bruce Wayne's parents was cut out. I thought that would have been cool to include, but I figure it all boils down to $ somehow as to why these films aren't longer.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 8:04 p.m. CST

    I'm always right ...There is no wrong.

    by blackflowerX

    I would die to see a live action interpretation of "The Dark Knigt Returns", even if they changed it to be even better (if possible), films are not comics after all...<br><br> As for "All Star SuperMan" I loved the comic (although a merciless Superman sounds lame ) , and I like the idea of a redeemed Lex Luthor , everyone deserves a second chance or ten .....Yeah?<br><br> Nice to see a hero who isn't a bully.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Also...Frank Quietly is THE best artist in comics today.

    by blackflowerX

    Word.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Wait what?

    by David Cloverfield

    I didn't see the movie but reformed Luthor is in the books. He doesn't solve the Kryptonian DNA, but he breaks down when he realizes how Superman sees the world, and awaits execution as a new man (mentioned in dialogue).

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Just watched it

    by Hercules

    and loved it. So strange to see the story I read over two years compacted into 75 minutes, but I love that they kept so much rich detail: the stareater, Lex's hot niece, the Kryptonian astronauts, Samson and Atlas. Completely exceeded my expectations. All hail Dwayne McDuffie, who also scripted last year's excellent Justice League: Crisis On Two Earths.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 8:37 p.m. CST

    expert40

    by john

    as they got quitely, i cant see why they cant also capture the essence of ross's art and i agree...they should do kingdom come...and its time for marvel to do marvels

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 8:57 p.m. CST

    herc...come on now

    by john

    you have to admit that the voice acting (except for paglia) was below standards, and timm should never use that voice director again and the story was rushed, forcing mcduffie to fill in parts with explanatory dialogue...which is always cumbersome its a beautiful film, that shouldve been done in 2.5 to 3 hours and released into theaters.....the story is made for the big screen as an aside, while hendricks always sounds sexy, i was impressed that cardellini still sounds like a teenager

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 9:02 p.m. CST

    CRISIS ON TWO EARTHS Fucking Sucked

    by neverhed

    This looks alright.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 9:29 p.m. CST

    PLANT!

    by Gabe Athouse

    I'm not going to bother. I know the book is better than the cartoon, so the only reason to watch it is to see how much it sucks. I'm so glad I've reached a point in my life where that's something I'm unwilling to bother with.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 10:02 p.m. CST

    is this available online yet

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    yep just found the torrent, As with all the DC animated movies, i'm downloading first and if I like it i buy it, so far only 2 of the films have been god enough to purchase

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Yeah

    by melchior42

    It was good, maybe even great, but I couldn't tell you because I am unfairly biased. I've seen a far greater work. It's called All Star Superman. All Star Superman #10 may be the single greatest Superman comic ever. "You're Much stronger than you think you are. Trust me"

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 10:33 p.m. CST

    This guy should proofread his reviews

    by David_Denmans_Beard

    Frank "Quietly"? I stopped there and even then I feel I was being overly generous. That aside, I loved the animation but everything else - disappointment. I wish Timm would grow some balls and actually make the Judas Contract movie though (and not gloss over the fact that Deathstroke was nailing Terra). As much as I enjoy them milking the two iconic characters for all they're worth, they could do more with better, under-utilized characters and teams like the Teen Titans, The Spectre, The Question... fuck, at this point I'd even settle for a fucking Bat-Mite solo DTV release.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Don't forget Justice League: The New Frontier

    by mongo126

    ...but All Star is on par with Under the Red Hood. How about some Kingdom Come?

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 11:07 p.m. CST

    Once the review bashed Gotham Knight I stopped reading

    by Transhuman

    Gotham Knight along with New Frontier are their best flicks. I have some hope for the upcoming Batman: Year One that they'll be doing also.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 11:17 p.m. CST

    The Animation

    by Autodidact

    Went and watched the trailer and some clips. It's the same level of animation as the average Marvel/DC animation lately. Fairly ugly and cheap looking. Not that I'm too interested in seeing an animated version of the "best Superman story ever". I'd rather see an original animation, given there's no possible way they can even approach the quality of the comic.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 11:19 p.m. CST

    That was a very good series

    by drdoom_v

    They usually rock on these adaptations. I am looking forward to this one.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Absolutely great, but not the best

    by Darkknight37

    I hated the mini, but this cliff notes version proved to be the greatest Superman story I've ever experienced. 'Batman: Under the Red Hood' and 'Superman/Batman: Apocalypse' are the top two IMO. FYI, I'll jump in on the Grant Morrison hate. He's rendered Batman comics unrecognizable and beyond the spirit of who he is. I suppose his goal in life was to have his name under Bob Kane's when the credit of "Created By" comes up.

  • Feb. 12, 2011, 11:56 p.m. CST

    The Green Gargantua is fucking wrong.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Calling people "retarded" because they don't like Grant Morrison. I only like Grant Morrison about a third of the time. And, I'm not even ¼ retarded. Your math doesn't add up, imbecile. (See what I just did there? Pretty dumb, huh?) The changing of ALL-STAR SUPERMAN, turning one of the villains into the hero and the hero into something of a quitter, would ruin the piece for me, if I had any interest or need to see it as a movie, in the first place, which I don't. Especially since it sounds like the movie has deleted almost everything from the books that I was fond of. That doesn't mean it wouldn't work as a video. It doesn't mean it isn't any good. It doesn't mean I'm right and the reviewer's wrong, although I kind of want to say he is because he likes that RED HOOD garbage; therefore his credibility is wiggity-whack. My interest in this has gone from +2 to zero.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, midnight CST

    "The story was made for the big screen."

    by Subtitles_Off

    No stories ever, except the ones that began, you know, as scripts were ever made for the big screen. If I didn't just snark at Gargantua for using the word "retard," I'd call this generational idea that everything ought to be a movie a full-on reet's opinion. Read a book, mother-fucker. Read a book.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Solo4357...(SPOILER ALERT)

    by QuietMan297

    You wrote, "In the book, Luthor is defeated, cursing Superman’s name and continuing to rail against the unfairness of it all. That’s it. In the movie, Luthor realizes how everything’s connected, how Superman sees the world and how wrong he’s been." I don't know if you happen to have a copy of the book handy, but you might want to go back and re-read it. That's in there. But the major change is the fact that in the movie, Luthor gives Dr. Quintum Superman’s genetic code. I felt it was an awful omission from the book, because it demonstrated that Superman clearly trusted Quintum enough to provide him what he needed to create a new Superman.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Forgot to mention (SPOILER)

    by QuietMan297

    That in the book, it was Superman who gave Dr. Quintum his genetic code.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 12:16 a.m. CST

    zero cred reviewer

    by musically_endowed

    You don`t like Gotham Knight? Wonder Woman`s the best of the DC movies so far. The intro is fucking metal. The rest are average at best. The less said about Green Lantern the better.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 12:18 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to this.

    by bubcus

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 12:21 a.m. CST

    All the best Superman stories came post-Crisis.

    by NinjaRap

    So if this is the best Superman stuff since "Earth One" in the '80s, that's an opinion worth disregarding; it's probably shit. Perfect, flawless Superman who pretends to be dorky Clark Kent as a mask and is actually also super-smart on top of being super-strong = boring and irritating beyond all imagination.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 12:23 a.m. CST

    The Animated Dark Knight

    by QuietMan297

    Does anyone have a link for some kind of Petition page or site to harass fucking Warner Brothers to finally make The Dark Knight animated? Seriously, what are they waiting for? Do they NOT have a clue that the fans want this? Is it a "Let's-not-piss-off-Frank-Miller-in-case-he-should-one-day-regain-his-sanity-and-go-back-to-writing-and-drawing-comics-again" thing? Should they do it, Michael Ironside needs to voice Batman if they can't get Adam West, playing it straight.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Best DC Animated Movies to Date (Non-DCAU)

    by NinjaRap

    ...definitely Wonder Woman and the two Justice League films, no question there. I suspect New Frontier is the strongest, but I waffle between that and Wonder Woman. Most boring? Ummm... probably Public Enemies. Not sure how they screwed that great comic up. Most terrible overall? Well, Doomsday was a piece of shit.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Pre-Crisis is where Grant Morrison steals all his ideas from.

    by Subtitles_Off

    It's all old enough that he can get credit for being original, because anyone else who remembers it outgrew it before he was out of diapers. WE-3, though: That's terrific.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 12:40 a.m. CST

    UNDER THE RED HOOD. 80 minutes of Batman running and jumping.

    by Subtitles_Off

    With emotions and stuff. Gawd, that thing is sooooo wretched.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Sucks that there is no Bizarro!

    by Superthug3000

    It sucks that there is no Bizarro. But I will definitely be picking this one up. The DC series has had its ups and downs but most have been enjoyable. I would like to see The Flash headline his own story and have Captain Marvel get a storyline that is longer than twenty minutes but.. I guess that just isn't going to happen. Whatever happened to the DC Showcase being included with the features. That was a great idea that gave exposure to there more obscure characters. They should have continued with tales from The Metal men, Metamorpho, Deadman , Anthro and about thirty others I could name.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 2:25 a.m. CST

    I'm about half way through

    by Babba-Booey

    I've been watching it tonight and I'm not getting the good vibe from it. Morrison's story seems limp compared to the plot that JMS has had in motion in the current Superman storyline. What's more of a problem, a Kal-El that's dying, or a Kal-El that just stops giving a shit and ready to tell all of us to fuck off?

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 2:27 a.m. CST

    Batman: Under the Red Hood

    by frankenberry

    The best DC Universe animated film is "Batman: Under the Red Hood". Films like "Wonder Woman" (2009) and "Justice League: The New Frontier" may appeal to comic book fans. But "Under the Red Hood" has universal appeal. To me, the film captures the spirit of Nolan's films. Is it as good as "The Dark Knight"? Of course not. But I'd almost - ALMOST - say it's on the same level as "Batman Begins". "Red Hood" even follows the Nolan formula, from the mob boss (Black Skull) right down to the ethical dilemma ('Why hasn't Batman killed Joker - or even let someone else kill him?'). For what it's worth - not much, I know - I think "Batman: Under the Red Hood" is DC Universe's masterwork.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 2:30 a.m. CST

    *By "DC Universe"...

    by frankenberry

    I meant the DC Universe animated films that began with "Superman: Doomsday".

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 3:53 a.m. CST

    Lame !!!!

    by PTSDPete

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 4:25 a.m. CST

    That was pretty good. The episodic nature dragged a little.

    by David Cloverfield

    And I wasn't happy with some of the voices. But the ending is great. Hell, Luthor's last confession was a lot more moving than anything we've seen in Smallville or Superman Returns. ("Forgive me Doctor, for I have sinned.) Hell the whole ending is awesome and works a tiny bit better than in the comic. (Except the Solaris execution. Who thought that's a good idea?)

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 5 a.m. CST

    I found New Frontier to be mediocre,

    by Dennis_Moore

    which was a surprise, as the comic was brilliant. It's unfortunate they can't do more JLU, or say an Outsiders or Gotham Girls/Sirens or The Question series set in the DCAU. Or do movies on off the path DC properties like Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld, or something from Vertigo.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 5:01 a.m. CST

    reason for being so short

    by Deathpool

    Warners keeps the guys doing the DC Animated movies on a pretty tight leash and budget, they're simply not allowed to exceed 70-75 minutes or so. They figure adding more animation isn't going to increase the sales by enough to justify it. They're also moving away from any movies that aren't Batman and Superman-centric, since apparently the Wonder Woman and Green Lantern didn't sell well enough for them (the next one, Green Lantern: Emerald Knights, has the upcoming movie to thank for its release). I think this is what killed the proposed Teen Titans: Judas Contract and Green Arrow movies, and probably lead to the introduction of the shorts spotlighting mostly lesser-known characters.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 5:35 a.m. CST

    quietman297 was right. you are wrong

    by ClaireRedfield

    Your entire review is suspect when you miss one of the most "quietly" epic moments of the entire miniseries. Luthors epiphany was key. As Mark Waid said in his intro to the collected edition, it's Supermans ability to change people that makes him so powerful. The fact that before the end he changed even his greatest enemy was a powerful moment. If the movie highlighted that, then that's a point in its favor. Also, I'm disinclined to trust the taste of someone who calls Frank Quitely's art "wrinkly". You probably think Walt Simonson was bulky bullshit and that Barry-Windsor Smith was "too scratchy". Talk about superficial artistic judgement. At any rate, I knew they'd remove most things that didnt involve Superman punching things. I had hoped they wouldn't change key moments of dialog, but it seems they couldn't help themselves. Reason #1 why adaptations usually suck: Because the writers adapting always think they're more clever than the original writer. Always.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 6:44 a.m. CST

    claireredfield

    by Shakeshift

    "Reason #1 why adaptations usually suck: Because the writers adapting always think they're more clever than the original writer. Always." Agreed. They're all just talentless hacks who get their hands on greatness and try to tinker with something that was priceless to begin with and end up diminishing it somehow. Like a bad jeweler who takes a priceless gem and cuts it wrong.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 7:13 a.m. CST

    I agree with Draft on Wonder Woman

    by MRJONZ72

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 7:46 a.m. CST

    morrison

    by Mike

    am I the only one who had a hard time following Final Crisis and Batman RIP? I tried reading RIP twice, as closely as possible, and I still don't think I understood what was going on..,. and in Final Crisis, t seemed like all the big action wasn't shown and there were barely any storylines with the top-tier superheroes... maybe I should read them again with some aderal to help me out, but I just didn't understand what was going on in RIP and Final Crisis

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 7:59 a.m. CST

    20 mins ago I didn't know this existed...

    by Smashing

    Now I'm about to watch it, gods bless the future.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 8:33 a.m. CST

    I'm very disappointed...

    by davywankenobi

    ...to hear that the death of Pa Kent flashback has been left out. It was the heart of the story. I agree with the part about the dialogue between Superman and Solaris, as well. Superman without mercy is as out of character as the way he's being portrayed on the Young Justice show right now. Superman exists to give hope, period.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Fuck this shit

    by nico_laos

    If you think Batman: Gotham Knight is terrible you really are a fucking retard, and I have no time to waste on such a shitty review.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Gotham Knight was brilliant;can't wait for All-Star

    by Dave Neville

    And I stand by that. Some of the most interesting animation work done with Batman since B:TAS and until Under the Red Hood. Loved it. I hated Superman until I read All Star Superman. Shame the underworld is gone, but there you go. Bruce Timm is a genius.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 10:02 a.m. CST

    by Dave Neville

    I agree, man. Though out of respect for Supes, I read the review.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Why is dead Pa Kent obligatory now?

    by David Cloverfield

    I remember, when I was a kid, I started reading comics with Bryne's Man of steel, and having his parents around just felt so natural and relatable. Why can't Supes be the exception from the rule and fly home to the farm occasionally to have lunch with his foster parents?

  • Computer animation can be stylized, too,...without human error/limitation in accuracy. And it can look COOL AS HELL. --Get with the program and expand your audience. Push the envelope AND GET NOTICED. Come ON, Warner Bros.

  • Seriously, how many brain cells does a person need to figure this out? --Look at computer animated video games these days and compare THAT to hand-drawn animation. Which medium has the advantage, in visual terms? Isn't it rather OBVIOUS???

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Quitely is the Best Artist in Comics

    by wilsonfisk89

    His art is painstakingly precise, not 'messy.'

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Red Hood has Been the Only Great One

    by wilsonfisk89

    IMO, as good as Dark Knight. Two Earths was enjoyable but lost the intelligence of the book. The two Batman/Superman films are pure garbage. New Frontier is a letdown, as the book's very good. Really hope All Star honors the source, as it's the very best Superman story ever told.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    ALSO...

    by QuietMan297

    ....the exclusion of the death of Jonathan Kent, the Superman Squad, the Bizarro Earth/Underverse segment, and Earth Q further demonstrates that yes, the writers of the adaptation had little clue what it is that makes the Grant Morrison story work. For those who haven't read it, it's not as convoluted and confusing as Final Crisis or Batman RIP. As a matter of fact, it actually seems as if Morrison is telling a story that is the opposite of that, very simple, with no previous knowledge Superman necessary. Some things the movie DID get right, probably by accident: — the opening — Lois at the Fortress, and her birthday present — Kent interviewing Luthor in Prison and the Parasite attack; in fact, the movie captured Morrison's Kent perfectly. — the Daily Planet staff, particularly Steve Lombard — Luthor's niece — Luthor's epiphany — Superman's robots and the battle IN SPACE with Solaris ("I'm out of mercy" is unforgivable) Overall, the movie is worth owning, but only because, like New Frontier, this is as close to a straight adaptation of the source material as we're gonna get. But they need to make it better and longer if they plan to adapt Batman Year One or The Dark Knight Returns. They need to consult Frank Miller, let him write the script. They need to do this with any book adaptations from now on, involve the original writer.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Under The Red Hood was horrible...

    by Jobacca

    But what can you expect,it was based on a Judd Winnick story. I will say it LOOKED amazing,but the story and voice-acting were all sub-par. I think many people like it because it was "so dark and gritty"...which it totally wasnt. And John Dimaggio's Joker sounded exactly like Bender. I kept expecting him to tell Batman to bite his shiny metal ass. Hands down,the best direct-to-dvd feature they have done is The Wonder Woman movie...and I dont even like Wonder Woman. The second best was the Batman/Superman Apocalypse-Supergirl story. The rest have all been various degrees of shit.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Also-Superman Out of Mercy?

    by Jobacca

    I dont think so. This review makes me NOT want to see the movie. I wasnt as crazy over the comic as most folks were,but I thought it was OK. This review makes it sound like they left out all the best stuff. I'll probably get bored and PPV it one night,but I'm not expecting much.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Typical Quitely Art

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    http://tinyurl.com/4ptbw5e Wrinkly, messy, ugly. He's not a BAD artist... his storytelling, technical skills and anatomy are fine. However, his ability to draw attractive people, or characters that don't look like they need a good scrubbing, is sorely lacking. Brian Bolland, Kevin Nowlan and Adam Hughes are "painstakingly precise" artists. Frank Quitely is messy.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    I liked it a lot. Even though it was a bit rushed

    by Chain

    I also agree with those who believe we should get a full blown cgi JLA adventure like that DCUO trailer. I'd like to see a full movie of that. and then Kingdom Come and TDKR CGI is the way these superhero movies need to be made.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Hmm

    by captaincrazy

    I was never a fan of Morrison (he tries too hard to be quirky and just comes off as a pretentious twat), but All-Star Superman was fantastic. Probably because it was more straight-forward than his other tales. However, this review is confusing. He/She starts off by saying what a great movie it is but then derides the makers over 2 major (I think) story points.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Ghost Lurker, Jewbacca

    by wilsonfisk89

    To each their own I guess. I find Quitely to be astounding http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_py4XZ9U-b8M/SwsBUmxASeI/AAAAAAAAAF8/wTLb35R5tj4/s1600/frank+quitely+we3.jpg Also, the Supergirl film was awful, a boring slugfest with a real gay makeover scene.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 1:32 p.m. CST

    jdanielp: no. just no.

    by mrgray

    Yeah, let's take a medium that is by nature hand-drawn and adapt it to a medium that is completely digital! That won't suck at all! Some of the best animated films of the past 5 years have been traditional hand-drawn cel animation. Technofetishists with hard-ons for CGI everything can ram a pair of 3D glasses up their asses.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST

    One of the worst DCU movies yet

    by EvilPants

    I hate to say it, but they really were too reverential to the source material here. Don't get me wrong, I love the original, though I'm as big a Morrison detractor as you'll find. But as a movie it came across as rushed and forced, with very little plot that pushed the movie ahead. Unfortunately, this wasn't a movie so much as it was a collection of interesting scenes. Good if you're a 12 issue comic book, not so good if you're a 2 hour film.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Wilsonfisk89

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    Quitely IS good with violent, gory scenes, I'll give him that. But that's probably in large part because gore, by definition, is messy. ;)

  • And computer animation can adopt ANY 2-dimensional style. Even THIS. Have you ever seen a 2D character realized/sculpted as a 3-dimensional object, then scanned into a computer to be animated? It's amazing stuff. And I'm just waiting to see which studio takes it to another level. Considering Warner Bros. mass inventory of characters (cartoon or otherwise), it's like they are just sitting on a mountain of gold.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Good, but not better than Under red Hood or Crisis on Two Earths..

    by CeejayNightwing

    It's still cheesy Superman making ridiculous excuses to do "superstuff" while dressed as Clark Kent and most of the design work is retarded like the robots with capes.. Why CAPES??? It will appease half the fans of the comic series but in all honesty the best thing about it is the music. Common sense goes out of the window in tales like this with ridiculously huge world threats and every single character in the DC universe missing for some unexplained reason EXCEPT Superman. This tale breaks down to another long and drawn out Death of Superman minus all his superhero best-friends who should care and should be there trying to help him if the narrative had any scope. Instead its a contrived Martyr-tale and suits only tunnel-vision Superman fans only in its narrow visioned attempt to be clever. And I'm tired of every Kyrptonian that appears in a Superman tale being some tyrant with a god complex unless they're related to Kal El! With all their power and intelligence they should be more like Star Fleet and less like Klingongs in their moral standings. All they are ever used for is to show how good, clean and wholesome Superman is becasue he grew up as a yankee farmboy! ..Meh!

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST

    ..And the Title sucks!

    by CeejayNightwing

    ..it has didly-squat to do with the story and everything to do with the DC campaign that ran at the time doing celebrity named writers and artists in collaboration to get that extra buck out of the drooling fanboy!

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 4:01 p.m. CST

    I Liked It...

    by SonOfChiba

    But didn't love it. Reason being, as others above have said, it does jump around a bit too much, making me wish I had my copies of the comic (yeah, I said "comic", deal with it). It feels like the cliff notes version - only, er, moving. There was a LOT of Quitely's art in there, though - I was worried they'd "Generic Korea Art" the shit out of it but generally speaking it looks a lot like his art most of the time. Worth dl'ing, for sure.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Even though you didn't ask...

    by rbatty024

    here's my ranking of the direct to DVD DCAU: <p> 1. Wonder Woman <p> 2. New Frontier <p> 3. Under the Red Hood <p> 4. Superman: Doomsday <p> 5. Batman: Gotham Knights <p> 6. Superman/Batman: Public Enemies <p> 7. Green Lantern: First Flight <p> 8. Crisis on Two Earths <p> 9. Superman/Batman: Apocalypse <p> Apocalypse is perhaps the only that I struggled to find few redeeming qualities. Even Crisis on Two Earths had some great moments.

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Doomed planet.

    by David Cloverfield

    Desperate scientists. Last hope. Kindly couple. Superman. - I wish Snyder started his movie with this (maybe accompanied with one of his signature "montage opening credits")

  • Feb. 13, 2011, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Doomed planet. Desperate scientists. Last hope. Kindly couple.

    by David Cloverfield

    Is actually a pretty bitchin' headline for the teaser phase of the new Supes marketing campaign.

  • Those words have been going through my mind every since I watched All Star Superman a few days ago. To say this is the very best film from DC Animation is a huge understatement. This is one of the VERY best Superman films ever. It puts Bryan Singer's Returns film to the shame it deserves and throws it to the fucking curb as it should be. We have not seen this caliber of epic, note for note hitting storytelling with Superman since the original Christopher Reeve film from 1978. And even that film is flawed ultimately. Here, from beginning to end, I was floored and sensed that if this had been a true piece of cinema released in theatres with a longer cut, more story and characters, it would easily rival Toy Story 3 and How To Train Your Dragon. I watched this film with tears in my eyes for the last 20 or so minutes. It touched me that much. It doesn't just riff or adapt Grant Morrison's beautiful work of art, it masters its own beat, its own drummer and delivers a completely new experience. This is Superman the way he was created to be by Siegel and Shuster back in 1938. A man, a superman from another world determined to not let his final days on this world be hollow but to make a difference. To save the day.

  • Doomed planet. Desperate scientists. Last hope. Kindly couple. Superman. That is the purest, most bare bones description of what that story is. And yet it is absolutely perfect.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 12:27 a.m. CST

    i WANTED to like this...

    by gk1

    but i just felt like it was all over the place. Maybe i'm not used to a self-contained animated universe for Superman, or maybe it was the lack of awesomeness that is Clancy Brown, but i was not impressed by this. the only HOLY SHIT THAT WAS AWESOME moment was when Luthor fried that prison guards face.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 1:58 a.m. CST

    Only hardcore fanboys can possibly like this..

    by CeejayNightwing

    It's a utter narrative mess you can't ignore so statements like "as good as Toy Story 3" are just laughable! In one scene you have Superman leading a bunch of robots (with Capes!) to fight an entity that's devouring the Sun, followed by him as Clark Kent running into the Daily planet offices to deliver the headline of Superman's imminent death after which Clark drops down dead! Then Luthor attacks and they forget all bout Clark until Luthor hurts Lois and Clark wakes up and pulls out a "Gravity" gun the size of his torso concealed where..? Takes down Luthor and dissapears again into Superman without anyone questioning shit! This is the usual cheesy Superman crap with the worst dopey Clark Kent stuff added to make it worse. I hope Snyder's Superman is NOTHING like this. Toy Story 3 is so beyond this contrived amateur stuff, and DC animations have delivered a lot better in the past too.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 7 a.m. CST

    I'd like the chance to watch it...

    by batmans_pants

    but seeing as WB decline to release any of these titles in the UK, and I mean NONE, I won't have the opportunity to enjoy. It sucks. WB - please consider the UK market for these direct to blu-releases!!!

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 7:02 a.m. CST

    Doomed Planet. Desperate Scientist etc.....

    by Righteous Brother

    That first page from All-Star Superman.....if they could just do something as concise as that for the new Superman movie I'd be happy, it tells you everything you need to know. I don't really want another Superman origin film, and as for them re-telling the origin of Spidey in the new movie, well its just insanity to me.

  • that's how the all-star superman comics were made, a big throw back to the classics.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 7:27 a.m. CST

    Hey Marvel!!!..DC is Kicking Your Animated Butt!!

    by tanks1

    It's not even close. The quality of animated films DC is putting out puts Marvel to shame.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 7:37 a.m. CST

    I saw this yesterday. (0:'

    by Stalkeye

    Great story and for an animated film it's way better than the recent live action efforts. (I'm talking to you Superman Returns.) This is really the first time, in which Superman's character is highly developed.And Lex's redemption toward the end of the movie had made him more than just some egghead meglomaniac. The animation seemed a bit watered down compared to the excellent Return of the Black Adam (which is still one of my favorite DC OVAs despite being soo damn short.) but the story itself more than made up for it. DCUA/Timm and McDuffle does it again!

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 7:39 a.m. CST

    Tanks1

    by Stalkeye

    Marvel is upping the ante with their Anime series. You may have a change of opinion after watching the recent IronMan and Wolverine arcs/series.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Under the Red Hood

    by CuervoJones

    Much better than Nolan´s Batman movies.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Cheap, low (but not poor) quality TV animation only ...

    by Number_Six

    Sorry, but I have to agree with others that this is certainly not cinema quality work. It's Saturday morning cartoon serial stuff, a cut above some other TV animation but certainly on that par, aimed at kids and produced fairly cheaply and quickly. I enjoyed the comic version of this, not my usual cup of tea but a nice throwback and nicely done ... and it's fine to attempt to reproduce the look for an animated version however - as I commented on the Rosenbaum/Lex/Smallville talkback - the animated stuff DC are churning out is visually fairly low rent. Would love to see something with the detail and physics of the DCU online trailer ... but I dare say that takes longer / costs more ... would be great to something more serious, more sophisticated, with better dialogue and voice acting ... this current output from DC is of little interest to me, sadly.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 8:26 a.m. CST

    No Tim Daly makes it unwatchable

    by asdff fdsaa

    I can't stand it when they don't use the right voices. Tim Daly is Superman.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 9:05 a.m. CST

    I just watched it...

    by workshed

    ...strange vibe from it at first but from about half an hour in I was hooked. New Frontier is still me fave, with Under The Red Hood a very close second. This comes in at #3.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 9:30 a.m. CST

    HUGE Fan of Book, Did Not Enjoy Film

    by wilsonfisk89

    More than anything else, it just seems completely unnecessary. It's essentially a motion comic with much, much lesser art, and without the heart and intelligence of the book. Also with most of the plot points missing (Kandor, Chronovore/Pa Kent/Superman Squad, Jimmy Olsen/Doomsday, Underverse/Zibbaro, 12 Labors, Saving the suicide girl, Lex and Superman's final 'Brains v. Brawn' argument, and much more). Spoiler ahead--- - In this film, Superman does not plan for his death as he does in the book. There's no Superman 2, no cure for Cancer, no Kal-El/Lois DNA. In fact, after Lex is enlightened, he's the one that leaves Superman's DNA behind, which HE sequenced, instead of Superman. This is not the introspective Superman in the final days of his life. In fact, I think 'There's always a way,' Superman's maxim in the book, is mentioned just once, by Lois, in passing. You're much better off reading the book.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 9:36 a.m. CST

    CUERVO- I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR YOU

    by wilsonfisk89

    Well, not exactly, but in you I have found the only other person that feels that way. Under the Red Hood is a much more faithful, and enjoyable, representation of the Batman mythos than the Nolan films, HANDS DOWN. Nolan, just as Burton before him, is doing *his* Batman, not the Batman that's existed in print and animation for 70 or so years. It's not that good. There's no sense, in Nolan's films, of what Batman does. No rooftop patrols, detective work, hand to hand combat, etc. We are just sort of expected to know who he is. I'm really hoping the next director embraces Batman, instead of hiding him behind his supporting cast.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Comic book Batman vs big screen (Nolan / Burton) Batman

    by Number_Six

    I agree with the comments thus far, we haven't really had a true & faithful interpretation of the Batman on the big screen yet ... Burton and Nolan have done their own version of what might be construed as a more 'realistic' Batman for modern times, but it's not the Batman that we know and love. How do we feel about that? On the one hand I'd love to see a real Batman movie, I'm not a fan of the trunks outside the costume look that all 30s & 40s heroes seem to suffer from but that aside I like the idea of the figure hugging grey costume with black boots, gloves, cowl and cape, and black Bat symbol (no yellow background) - a la Hush. He is after all a stealthy vigilante, trained in martial arts, and the comics show him sneaking around like a ninja, swinging about like Spider-man, and throwing chop suey shapes like an elasticated mo' fo' ... THAT's Batman. He should be on the prowl, looking out for badness, when faced with a larger scale threat we should see the World's Greatest Detective exercising his analytical and investigative mind - but that hasn't full come across in the film adaptations to date. OK, OK, some aspects of it may be a bit slow ... it's a movie, it needs to be grand in scale, people expect action from a Bat movie and a studio may not endorse a slow moving detective story but that's exactly what I think would work as a TV series - something more cerebral, you can do a season big bad AND still have episodes where he tackles street scum and does his prowling creature of the night trick, criminals should be worried that he's sneaking around, that's his schtik - to strike fear into their black hearts. I've love to see grey Spandex ninja Batman in a show like that ... throwing proper Batarangs, being lithe and energetic, employing his martial fighting skills to the max. I understand the approach Burton and Nolan have taken though ... Batman has no super powers, so he's fairly easily taken out with a gun - I dare say Spider-man would be too though, and the idea simply is that these kind of heroes must be faster and smarter than their opponents. Batman's a finely tuned specimen, he could take a bullet and live in the right place, and you believe he could dodge them too if he had to. As I say, perhaps the approach so far has been to inject a degree of realism ... and I appreciate the irony in that statement. Here's a guy with limitless wealth, thinking in the modern world with modern technology at his disposal ... when Batman was created we had Spandex, trunks, and cheesy grins ... now we have body armour, and electronics. Would a guy like that genuinely put on some stretch grey material and risk getting stabbed or shot? Unlikely ... he'll suit up and cut the risk with the lightest most protective material he can find that won't compromise his mobility too much. So, I can see both sides ... but I don't think we'll ever see the real Batman on screen for the reasons above - unless DC have the balls to do a TV show and risk their movie franchise, which they don't! :o(

  • Alan Moore can be seen in the background wearing a boyscout uniform while giving a bloated Wonder Woman the business. "edgy"...

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 11:22 a.m. CST

    mmm

    by redkamel

    It was pretty good, but I felt like I was just watching an extra length TV episode. Don't get me wrong, the movie is great, and miles better than most cartoons on TV these days (not that high of a compliment) But it could have been the best. None of the plots, or subplots, were fleshed out enough for this to make the jump from "aimed at kids" to "aimed at adults". I know, it is a cartoon, but I could see the potential for a Superman story that would blow everyones mind here. (note: I haven't read the comic) Superman finds out he's dying, 10 minutes later he's emotionally fine and on a 15 minute adventure. Then another 15 minute adventure. Then another. And so one. Then its the end. I'm sure in the comic theres a lot more....depth I guess, or reality, to the story. But the movie just felt like a series of short stories rather than one long journey. I felt like Superman didn't really have much of a character arc, while Lex did, and Lois did...kind of. If the movie, and the comic I guess, had parts where Superman is tripping balls because he's dying, or Lois is actually upset/hates him/rejects his baby for a time before accepting it or if Lex committed suicide because he realized he was wrong/inferior to Superman....maybe I would have felt like these were "real" people and not just extended length versions of Justice League.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Can't believe all the praise for Under The Red Hood

    by impetus

    For all its technical proficiency, it's still a horrible, horrible story about an asinine event that should have never happened in the DC Universe. Can't say much more without spoiling the whole plot (not that it matters much, the idiot reviewer went and shouted it out anyone who hadn't seen it).

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 12:24 p.m. CST

    I can understand the praise for UTRH.

    by Stalkeye

    It was that damn good and Bruce Greenwood exceeded my expectations as Batman.Still a Conroy fan at heart though. I'm also impressed by the Young Justice series as well.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    In the novel, Superman ripped out Solaris' heart

    by Laserhead

    So that was no less defeatist than the animated version. Re-read that scene in the gn, Superman isn't imparting hope. Sounds like the great majority of the series was cut, with only the Luthor plot remaining, which were more bookends than the meat of the comic series. Why the hell do these movies only get 70 minutes anyway? Why not make them 100 minutes, for fuck's sake. Make half as many of these things, and make them twice as good, instead of truncated, half-realized adaptations that fall short commercially and artistically.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST

    People seem awful confused about this book.

    by boosebaster

    Luthor has the epiphany and breakdown the reviewer speaks of of in the book, I'm not sure what he means by saying they've changed it. Solaris isn't killed, the reviewer was right here. Superman doesn't kill at all (yes Solaris is a machine but a sentient, living one) and will always show mercy. That's kind of what makes Superman Superman, that's sort of the entire definition of the character. Plus lots of aspects of this book are explored in further detail in Morrison's "DC One Million". Solaris survives and has a long and complex history with Supes and his legacy. Finally, why does everyone in every review I've seen of this say that Superman dies at the end? He doesn't. There is plenty of proof throughout the story (including, hmmm, his own future self showing up?). He goes to fix the sun, he's in there for a long time, sure, but he doesn't die (again, ties in with DC One Million).

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Boose

    by wilsonfisk89

    (Spoilerz) "Luthor has the epiphany and breakdown the reviewer speaks of of in the book, I'm not sure what he means by saying they've changed it." In the film, Luthor, after experiencing his epiphany, sequences Superman's genome for the betterment of mankind. He pretty much 'turns good.' It's a nice, happy ending, but like most everything in the film, it shits on the STELLAR source material.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 8:01 p.m. CST

    These DC

    by Maxwell Bishop

    These movies are to make the buck. I really think Bruce Timm sold out.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST

    These Animated DC Movies Suck

    by Maxwell Bishop

    Everyone needs to make a paycheck. Bruce Timm brought us the greatest animated series of all time and so very true to the source material. It's hard to believe he is behind these craptastic direct to DVD films. They're terrible. I'm sure Timm tries to produce the best translation possible with budget and time allowed. I wish he would put his talents to better use.

  • Feb. 14, 2011, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Superman dying

    by redkamel

    In the movie they definitely give the impression that he died. I mean, how can he be "repairing the sun"? Its explained as one static panel from a painting. I just assumed he used his energy to become one with the sun, saving the earth. Also, Under the Red Hood did suck.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 12:37 a.m. CST

    Frank Quietly got my attention...

    by Ruester

    when he and Morrison were working on New X-Men years ago. What impressed me was how he managed to capture to moments through illustrations like they were candid photographs. What I mean is, it always seemed to me that Quietly's outlook was: No one looks good in super hero costumes all the time. He seemed to capture to the moments in comics that would have been outtakes in their film counterparts. So animating that and keeping with his style had to be a challenge.

  • Feb. 15, 2011, 7:55 a.m. CST

    Maxwell...

    by workshed

    ...I agree that the quality control is all over the place but ever since 'JL:New Frontier' I've looked forward to them all because when they get it right they're more adventurous than any live-action superhero flick. They certainly don't go over the origins time after time. Barring 'Spectacular Spiderman' (one of the few animated comic shows I can enjoy as much as my kids) DC kick Marvel's butt. Redcamel... Supes1 is dead but left behind his genetic code for Supes2. He is not, repeat NOT, 'repairing the sun'.

  • Feb. 16, 2011, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Goddamnit, I know no one is reading this but I have to respond to errors

    by ClaireRedfield

    redkamel: yes the book is more detailed. far far more detailed. Superman doesn't necessarily lose his shit over dying (dude, he's Superman) but he makes preparations simply because he's worried about everyone after hes gone. laserhead: (re:heart and hope)- You're wrong. Blatantly and inexcusably wrong. YOU reread it. redkamel/workshed: If they mention in the movie (haven't seen it yet) that he's "repairing the sun", then goddamnit, he's "repairing" the fucking "sun". In the original book this is quite obvious. He has become SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER pure energy, pure information, so it's entirely possible that he is within the sun effecting a vital change. In the book, he apparently lives in the sun for thousands of years. So suspend a little disbelief, and accept Superman as your lord and saviour.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 9:55 a.m. CST

    claireredfield

    by Laserhead

    NOPE. I'm looking right now at the Absolute edition of the book, and everything I said is exactly right. What the fuck are you talking about? The Luthor chapters are the first issue, the last issue, and a middle, interstitial chapter where Clark Kent interviews him in prison. In a 12-chapter novel, that constitutes book-ends. Finally, when Superman rips out Solaris' heart, it doesn't read to me as though he's imparting hope. It reads more with the attitude, 'One day you'll be reformed, but today you're fucked.' I mean, he makes a bad-ass one-liner before he rips the thing's mechanical heart out. So no, I'm not inexcusably wrong. You just seem to have a very, very, very narrow window for interpretation. Jackass.

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