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David Slade Goes Back To Vampires with THE LAST VOYAGE OF THE DEMETER!
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I hope Dracula is a hunky teen dude..
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LoL... I thought Denzel was putting on the teeth again!
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Feb. 12, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST
30 DAYS OF NIGHT and TWILIGHT: ECLIPSE ar enot good things to have in a resumé if you want to convince you can bring vampyre stories to the screen.
by AsimovLives
Both failed in their presentation. At least 30 DAYS OF NIGHT had a kernel of a good idea in it, it was the execution that was, well, uninspired, to put it nicely.
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Feb. 12, 2011, 12:04 p.m. CST
"Dudes, i made a failed monsters as vampyres movie and an emo gay teen vampyre movie. I'm so right for this job, trust me"
by AsimovLives
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...I thought there was no one left alive on the Demeter. I thought a dead crew member was left tied to the wheel.
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Feb. 12, 2011, 12:24 p.m. CST
This seems to lack much originality, even if never done.
by The Reluctant Austinite
It could easily be just "Alien" on a boat. That's basically "Jason Takes Manhattan". Now, it's a period piece and I'm sure it's more ambitious than that, but by taking the whole scope of the "Dracula" saga away and just making a film about one small part of it that constitutes about one page from the novel, the Dracula story is robbed of its mythology and Dracula just becomes a monster stalking victims in dark corners for two hours. Add to the fact that EVERYBODY knows the Dracula story and where it goes, so the suspense is gone. We know everyone dies except Renfield who goes completely bonkers. I assume the director wants to make a story about "steadily building madness" and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's likely to either turn out an artfilm footnote in Dracula lore or just plain boring. Sorry for the negativity; that's just how this story idea strikes me.
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Feb. 12, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST
LOL, did someone just mistake Denzel Washington for Wesley Snipes?
by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform
Oh man.
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I guess it has been a while. I just remember him as being a "patient" of Dr....I forget his name. Can someone set me straight without me having to wiki this?
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Feb. 12, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST
I get confused too. It's the movie fan disease.
by The Reluctant Austinite
My mind always goes to the 1931 Bela Lugosi movie which substitutes Renfield for Jonathan Harker at the beginning in Dracula's castle, putting Renfield on the Demeter. "Rats! Hundreds! Thousands! Millions!" No one survives the voyage of the Demeter in Stoker's novel. My brain does this with "Frankenstein" too. The movie has all kinds of crazy things that have nothing to do with the novel; Igor, the abnormal brain, "Henry" Frankenstein, etc.
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The ship doesnt land at London, it runs aground at Whitby, in Yorkshire, 200 or so miles north of London. When the ship stops, a wolf is seen jumping from the deck and then runs up the 199 steps up to Whiby abbey. The Captain is found lashed to the wheel of the ship.
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Feb. 12, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST
phifty2, the the Bela Logusi Dracula movie, Renfield was in the ship. In the novel, he was already in England, in the asylum, way before Dracula's voyage.
by AsimovLives
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Nope, Renfield isn't on the Demeter, he's already back in Blighty and locked up in an insane asylum.
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Feb. 12, 2011, 1:30 p.m. CST
The problem with this movie is not the rpemise. This premise has much potential. No, the problem is who they hired as director.
by AsimovLives
After 30 DAYS OF NIGHT and TWILIGHT: WHATEVER, who would trust this guy to make another vampyre movie, specially one related to the Daddy of all Vampyres? Give me a break!!
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Beat me to that response :P
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I've been laughing nonstop since I read that initial comment about "Denzel putting on the fangs again." I'd now like to postulate that in an alternate reality somewhere, alt-Denzel Washington is a washed-up action star making awful DTV "Art of War" sequels while constantly avoiding creditors and the IRS. Meanwhile, alt-Snipes is a celebrated Oscar winner who never got obsessed with martial arts and pot.
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I guess the guy who directed THE LIVES OF OTHERS isn't doing it anymore, then. I just hope Slade doesn't find himself getting ass-raped by the producers like he did on 30 DAYS..
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I read two different ones years ago. If I remember correctly, in one Dracula never spoke -- he was more of an evil force than a character. I believe I thought that draft was scarier but it's been awhile.
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I always wondered about what went on behind the scenes in that film.
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There are plenty of directors out there, even genre directors, that deserve the hate more than Slade. "Hard Candy" is an awesome thriller built around two really, really strong performances. The script for "30 Days of Night" may go a bit array with "super-Hartnett" but that is one of the more brutal, straight-forward gorefests of the last 5 years. And while I doubt many other people saw the 3rd Twilight, I did, and at the very least he made it the first truly watchable film in the series. The dude gets tension, he gets stylized aesthetics in a horror motif, and he understands a good gore effect. I think this sounds like a great marriage of material and director.
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Then again, I have a weakness for action/horror movies set in the snow. Seriously, it was tense, gory as fuck, generally well-acted, visually stunning...what was wrong with 30 Days Of Night?
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Or will he be a sparkly tween emo Goatfucker like asstomouthlives? That's the question that needs to be answered.
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Feb. 12, 2011, 5:10 p.m. CST
For those who don't think this could be an effective movie
by GreatOne3
Pick up the comic book mini-series - Bram Stoker's Death Ship. Developes a background for each of the crew members, and does a good job of making you care for the characters that you know are going to meet their doom. Very well done. Could see the movie being good, although after seeing 30 Days of Night, I'm concerned about the director - biggest fail of the movie, for me, was the complete lack of any sense that the survivors were living through any extended period of time; seemed like a few days, not 30 (and what was with all of the running outside/sitting by windows).
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would be cool. the boat washes up and theres a whole buncha feet found on the boat. no 3D?
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Feb. 12, 2011, 7:23 p.m. CST
There had better be some greasy-pole impaling action
by Nomoredirtyanything
I want the sort of up-the-ass-out-the-mouth impalings that would make Eli Roth question his sanity....
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Seriously...I thought this was about the effete 'straight' man to Farley's goofball characters in the 90s
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Need to be kicked in the nuts...If they have them or not. 30 Days of Night bored the Hell out of me.
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Feb. 13, 2011, 4:13 a.m. CST
nasty in the pasty , if you have a weakness for horror movies set in the snow, you positively have to watch the norwegian movies DEAD SNOW and the two COLD PREY movies.
by AsimovLives
They are horror movies, pretty brutal ones. DEAD SNOW is a zombie horror comedy set in the snow, and COLD PREY 1 and 2 are superior slashers, aso set in the snow. I suspect you will realy like them. Just watch them in their original norwegian with subtitles, because the english dubbings are terrible.
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Feb. 13, 2011, 4:22 a.m. CST
I agree with greatone3 on 30 DAYS OF NIGHT greatest problems.
by AsimovLives
You watch the movie and never once we get the sense of time passing by. The only clue to it is the title of the movie. Had the movie been called soemthing else, i would had though the movie was set in the course of 2 hours, or a normal nighttime at most. There's nothing in the movie that makes you say "this poor people they have been stuck in this attic for 4 weeks? Poor fellows!!". Never once. And then there's the suprising lack of tension in the movie. Ther's gore galore, that's vicious bloody attacks, there's action, but there is no tension. No mood, no tension, nothing of the sorts. The movie goes form moments of action to moments of people chilling out. It's byzarre. I have seen bad italian zombie horro movie sof the 80s being much more sucessful, in creation tension and suspense then 30 DAYS OF NIGHT, even with crap 80s upbeat pop-synth scores. What gives, man? And then, the piece de resistence was the final confrontation between Harnett and Houston, the top vampyre baddie. So we have this two guys, now in full vampyre mode, and Houston has this animalesque vicious beast of a creature, and how the final fight goes down? IN A FIST FIGHT!!! A fucking fist fight! This guys have now claws, they have evil long teeth, and they fight roundhouse style? Are you fucjking kidding me? Thjey should had been clawning and bitting each other silly, bitting and tearing chuncks of flesh out of each other. and instead they do boxing punches! Who the fuck makes this movies? Mellisa George was alright, though. Though if i want to see a good horror movie with her, i'd rather watch TRIANGLE, thank you very much.
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The most common theory about why Holywood makes so few truly good movies is that most of thepeople in power, msot of the executives, they are not movie fans. Most know little about film, weither how they are mad,e how story structure should work, all those things important to the making of an efective narrative and good movie. most studio executives are people who came form other areas,like, say, shoe sales or car manufacturement, and they go work for the film industry because the perks there are phenomenal. Unlike in the car industry, where you have tow ork a decade until you can amass soemthign you could call a small personal fortune, in the film industry if you worked on a movie that gets very sucessful, you became millionaire overnight. The important thing is that most executives, since the 80s, cary with them to their movie making job the baggage of other type of industry ways of working. This is why there is such obsession with fanchises, and movies which are good to make toys out of them, and lunchboxes, and colour books for children and whatnot. They don't see movies as movies. they see movies as lanchpads for a paralel cottage industry which is even more lucrative then movies proper. There are studio executives who are true film geeks, who are working in their dream job, who are intelligent and literate and knowledgable about filmmaking and storytelling, and they are in the job to make movies, good movies. But they are not the majority.
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Feb. 13, 2011, 4:30 a.m. CST
vulturess, how can you find fotage on the events that happened in a late 19th century sailing ship?
by AsimovLives
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Feb. 13, 2011, 4:32 a.m. CST
"30 Days of Night bored the Hell out of me." Yeah! I have seen glaciar paced movies which were far more exciting then that movie. Movies that only rely on action and not on tension do that for me.
by AsimovLives
Most boring movie i ever seen in my whole life? Bad Boys 2!
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That movie had so many fundamental problems, it actually angered me. I went in with great hope for it, too, not looking for it to be bad, but goodness gracious, it was awful.
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Compaired to what has been out there as far as vampire movies are concerned. 30 Days is a masterpiece.
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Where is it, B.C., where all those feet have been washing ashore?
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that was more exciting to hear than a film on a boat
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Gary Oldman to play Dracula for this, that would be Cool!!!
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Feb. 13, 2011, 5:31 p.m. CST
The F***ing Demeter lands in Whitby! Read the f***ing novel!
by Jeff Myers
It only lands in 'London' in every f***ing film because the money behind them is American and they don't think you guys will understand anything other THAN London. Even Coppolla whimped out on that one. Try the old (hammy as Fxxx) BBC adaptation with Louis (ham) Jordan. There the F***ing Demeter lands in Whitby. It was even shot there. Nuff f***ing said.
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the key word was allready said -"ALIEN". Make it about the crew and passangers, barely show Dracula until the end. The crew of the demeter knew they had boxes from transylvania in the hold, nothing more, so it should be about the one by one dissapearances and killings, with the mystery being the driving force behind the fear. If they can give it that sense of claustrophobia and helplessness, it could be great. The real trick is to make the audience forget what kind of film they are watching. Alien works because it establishes monotony and normalcy among the crew...and there is a sense of comfort in routine, you stop thinking you are watching a scary movie, but we become uncomfortable and frightened with them simultainiously and that is so hard to pull off. Exorcist is another great example of this. I don't want to think I am watching Dracula, I want to watch a film about a group of people as isolated as you could be, who gradualy realize they are trapped with a monster.
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Feb. 15, 2011, 7:39 a.m. CST
asimovlives,you've crossed the fucking line.Bad Boys 2 was a fucking masterpiece
by frank
the best fucking film made since Armageddon....
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I don't get the hate for this movie. It was the first vampire movie since Salem's Lot to actually have some CHILLS in it. Personally I think the only reason Slade did Twilight is to make his own movies next since he knew it would be a hit and would give him some clout. In addition I was always fascinated by the Demeter portion of the Dracula book since I first read it when I was like 12. I think the whole thing's only like 2 paragraphs but 2 like awesome paragraphs.
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