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Here are the lucky 14 from THE HOBBIT!!! NOW With Video!!!
So Weta just sent all their subscribers an email with a link to the video introducing of their cast and here's the Weta page where you can read their story and photos concerning it all!!!
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Here's the 14 travelers from THE HOBBIT!
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yesssssssss
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I cant see how anyone would want to give $ to this picture, especially after they way they did Del Toro! Hey Harry you any closer to those push ups?
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I like Martin Freeman as Bilbo. He's got mad skilz
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DER HOW I MISSED THIS CONTEST.
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Feb. 10, 2011, 5:36 p.m. CST
Let's not go over the top with the curly hobbit hair, mm-kay?
by gruntybear
Martin Freeman would look incredibly silly with, say, Pippin curls.
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Feb. 10, 2011, 5:36 p.m. CST
"Didn't recognize PJ there" because HE'S NOT IN THE PHOTO
by golden tribw
It says right under the picture that Jackson was absent.
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I'd like to see him get some proper geek cred.
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Viva La TORO!
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I just don't like Freeman. So no matter how much I love the trilogy, every time I see him, I'm underwhelmed. Oh well, I hope it turns out good anyway.
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I am muchly looking forward to this movie. I am certain (despite my personal dislike for PJ's 'King Kong') that this movie is in good hands and that we will get to view a faithful, beautiful adaptation of Tolkien's first foray into Middle Earth.
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As in, I am.
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How could you put your faith in PJ to begin with, the LOTR'S films were not faithful to the books in anyway shape or form, to be faithful to the book they would of had to made a mini series of at least forty hours. PJ took Tolkien's work and marketed to an audience of low IQ! All PJ has done was create an industry off of another man's work, so how at all is he original or creative?! The only hope I had for The Hobbit was Del Toro, and even though he wasn't a fan at first it looked like we was going to go with book 100%, not change shit around to feed his own ego! Viva La TORO!
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Disappointing cast ..... They have everything to prove.
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hmmm.....could it be the lack of women.....? as we all due to the times the books were written in the 1950s, womens lib was positively discouraged. womans place was in the home and all that.
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thought it went into developement hell along with GB3
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Seriously, is there where all our fucking actors are??
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Feb. 10, 2011, 5:59 p.m. CST
A good sign of things to come! There and Back Again!
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
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I hope so.
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He was my favorite.
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Their treatment of Aragorn and the fact that they even considered having the Witch King break Gandalf's staff showed they had no clue. This still has me excited tho. I'm such a tool.
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Yeah, you are.
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By all objective measures -- box office, industry awards, Rotten Tomatoes ratings -- they were tremendous critical and financial successes. Sorry if they weren't your particular cup of miruvor, though.
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Feb. 10, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST
Will this movie feature a 45 minute tea party between Gandalf and Bilbo?
by _Venkman
*snore*
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Nice pic, but the only one we're gonna recognize underneath all that make-up is Martin Freeman, whose only real prosthetic challenge is the furry feet. Good to see the faces behind the dwarves though. That being said, I think Martin Freeman is a great choice. I've never seen any of his work, but his face speaks volumes to me. Looks like he can capture both the cheeky hobbit-nature of Bilbo as well as his semi-heroic side. And of course his (I hope VERY gradual) descent as a slave of the Ring. Re-read the Hobbit: you'll be stunned how many times Bilbo uses the Ring compared to Frodo in LOTR. Which is part of the genius, because no-one knows the true power of the Ring yet. I really hope they bring out that aspect. And if not, they can still redeem themselves with Smaug. If they don't get that one right I've officially lost faith in humanity. I'll get back to drinking beer now..
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Feb. 10, 2011, 6:50 p.m. CST
hopefully the tea party with the dwarves will be longer than that, venkman
by Keats
I third kinjo’s toolhood. Braindrain: the movies are obviously going to be made. Spengler and Venkman are both in this TB. Cool.
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glorified extras.
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The UK one, not the US remake.
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... is awesome! I have that shit on DVD, the soundtrack on vinyl... Those songs were so catchy. How else can you imagine the songs? "Chip the glasses, crack the plates." or the melody of "Far over Misty Mountains cold..."
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If you fellow nerds aren't excited about this movie then you shouldn't come to this site. The Hobbit is the best thing JR wrote
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He plays Kili. Is it rude to answer my own question? What if it was rhetorical?
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So let it be written, so let it be done
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I didn't even recognize him in the bottom left of the picture
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Feb. 10, 2011, 7:11 p.m. CST
The lighting looks real peculiar on the guy doing the model pose on far left.
by CodeName
Just saying.
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but I see what you're saying.
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Or the red head from Braveheart???
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He's a brilliant actor! I hope this leads to him getting worldwide recognition. He's playing either Fili or Kili, and they are surely destined to be the Merry and Pippin of these movies. Though it's gonna be interesting to see how much screen time each of these 13 Dwarves are gonna get... Probably the likes of Oin and Gloin will have just a handful of lines. What they've got to try to achieve is getting the actor's personality across through the beard and prosthetics. It worked with John Rhys-Davies but you can't have all the Dwarves looking the same.
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As with the LOTR films, what "important" parts are going to be left out of "The Hobbit"? I remember all the bitching about no Tom Bombodil in the movies. Then I read the book. I'd have left his stupid ass out too. He served NO PURPOSE in that book. NONE. What parts of "The Hobbit" serve no purpose? Are there any? I don't think I have to say I never read the book. (However, in a strange twist of irony, I just said it.)
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How many of these poor fellows wont have a single line in the whole movie???
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Bilbo in the apple barrel in the river.
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They always just restate what the article is about. Excited for The Hobbit. Casting looks good. Filming starts March 21st.
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after they get to Lake Town. Then the whole second movie can focus on Smaug and the aftermath of his death. That part of the book is by far the best I think, so I want to make sure they have time to do it correctly.
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Certainnly looks like him.
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Guess McKellen couldn't make it to the junket. Oh well, at least we know he's signed...
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No Ron Pearlman please.
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Feb. 10, 2011, 7:45 p.m. CST
They look like the first 14 dudes in line for "The Houston 500"
by AzulTool
I know because I was #15.
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Seriously not trolling here. When I first saw this pic I got excited much like when the lord of the rings trilogy came out I loved them. But honestly, I haven't gone back to them very much over the years. I was interested in Guillermo del toro directing because I thought it might be a chance to break from the style of the other films. Now with Peter jackson directing, I feel he will match them up to the others. The other ones are not classic like Excalibur or Conan. The effects also look faker over time. Just thoughts, at least gonna go see it because the hobbit is also a better story then lord of the rings. Just hope it's not too lord of the ringsy.
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It breaks my spleen to see them.
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audio of him reading the hobbit, amazing
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the racist saga continues.
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...wonder, fear and suspense. Little person in a big world far away from home. And there's some really scary shit out there that will probably kill you.
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Feb. 10, 2011, 9:39 p.m. CST
The Rankin Bass movies had moments of inspired perfection.
by Larry Knowles
And other moments of sloppiness or limitations. I'm always oddly drawn to movies like those because it feels like I am tasked with tryying to figure out how to keep what works well and rework the parts that don't.
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Everything sucks. The films were great and i have read LOTR every holiday season for over 20 years. Now this film (with i hope to God Del Toro's art and conceptual still holds) will go down as the best of the past decade.
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Both in book & movie form.
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...because it's taking up Freeman's valuable time and pushing back the production of more episodes of Sherlock. And I say that as a fucking Tolkien fan of the highest order and a PJ fan from the Bad Taste days. More Sherlock!
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He probably got his doctorate from a state school.
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what parts of The Hobbit (1977) did you not like?
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Kindly bring your service revolver....
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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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crying his eyes out. Being the younger of us three, he just couldn't handle the scary bits. He shit himself! hahahahahahaha... I'm serious.
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Though the idea of Thorin as a younger, heart-throb of a Dwarf is far an away from what I imagined.
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Are the most redundant and empty posts yet. I find them worse than the FIRSTs, because at least the FIRSTs provided bits of comedy when someone was actually 3rd or 4th. Harry's 0 posts just feel so loaded with false enthusiasm, and I doubt he ever reads the stories for which he posts (which is obvious with the Arthur trailer fiasco). Bleh. So useless.
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Drive Angry comes out soon. That's Nick Cage' Drive Angry. Nick Cage motherfuckers!! Come on!!!
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Feb. 11, 2011, 12:23 a.m. CST
Don't trust Freeman in this. He's not a good enough actor.
by moonlightdrive
Big gamble.
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Just watch the video!
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Del Toro's Hobbit was the Hobbit film that I was dying for. The recent New Yorker piece makes me feel all the more acutely that Jackson's operatic directorial style might not suit this story as well as Del Toro's more imaginative, fairy-tale take. Will it suck? I doubt it. However, right now, I don't see it equaling the LOTR trilogy. I worry about all of these LOTR cameos. Frodo, but no (confirmed) Hugo Weaving-as-Elrond appearance? What is up with that?
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I hope they at least give us a 40-50 minute tea party thing in the extended editions. The first time i tried reading it I couldn't get past it and quit. The second time I was slightly high and loved every page of it. Anyway I like the Hobbit more than LOTR, content-wise, really...so stoked for this. They should have made it first, though.
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Whoa, I hope Jackson doesn't sully their great now-hairy beauty in this movie. That would be a damn shame. Still gonna see it for them and Freeman, though,
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Still think he'd have been awesome in these films. A missed opportunity IMO.
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We have things called Visual Effects. Did you not see lord of the rings? I don't want to spoil it for you, but John Rhys-Davies is not 4ft tall.
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but my guess is that she is being used as the narrator. which sucks. what does it say about peter jackson, that he didnt change that aspect of the books. in which, despite one female character, they all were kind of kept in the background. ie they were minimal. i know that these were written in a different time. but i am not sure why jackson kept to that.
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on imdb.
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bill bailey.doh!
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It was written in the 20's and 30's, why WOULD women be in it? The characters are men who are going about in a time building up to war. If you understood the back story, you will understand why there are no dwarf women (and it's not because of "the beards") present in the storyline (it's because they are few in number, dwarves are insanely jealous and they will not risk their women fold travelling out into the wider Middle Earth, world, save at great need). To all those tired old "racist" posts. Fer christsakes, look at the skin colour of people in Northern Europe. THAT is where the Geography of the Western parts of Middle Earth were set. It is not racist to suggest that the native inhabitants of Norway probably have fair coloured skin. THAT is what the West of Middle Earth is based on. North West Europe. The Southrons etc were considered darker skinned because they were far to the South, in the much hotter climes... It has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with reality if you can be bothered to understand that Middle Earth was meant to represent "real earth" and it is reality that the native peoples of Africa have darker coloured skin than those of Northern Europe. You guys are making the mistake of imposing YOUR opinions on work that never had any of the intentions you ascribe to it... Cheers.
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one more reason that Tolkien's work is filled with racism as a product of its time.last time i checked his books,most if all of the evil mobs were dark colored.correct?
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I'd say most of the evil mobs in his books tend to not be human and colour isn't represented that often, be it orcs, goblins or floating great eyes or dragons... But the southern armies in LOTR were suggestibly 'african'. That said the principal evil in his books tends towards traitors and 'mechanised' inhuman forces. There was an established level of racism at the time, but Tolkien isn't particularly notable for it. Certainly less than CS Lewis.
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hated the invention of the internal combustion engine, which he demolished as evil. back to lord of the rings. i think jackson should have updated the story in some way.
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Feb. 11, 2011, 6:35 a.m. CST
There is discussion of race and anti-semitism in Tolkien's
by Dingbatty
letters, which is an interesting read that I would recommend. Snippets: "... No. 102: From a letter to his son Christopher Tolkien 9 August 1945 As for what you say or hint of 'local' conditions: I knew of them. I don't think they have much changed (even for the worse). I used to hear them discussed by my mother; and have ever since taken a special interest in that part of the world. The treatment of colour nearly always horrifies anyone going out from Britain, & not only in South Africa. Unfort[unately], not many retain that generous sentiment for long. To Christopher Tolkien in South Africa: I must say the enclosed letter from Rütten and Loening is a bit stiff. Do I suffer this impertinence because of the possession of a German name, or do their lunatic laws require a certificate of 'arisch' origin from all persons of all countries? ... I do not regard the (probable) absence of all Jewish blood as necessarily honourable; and I have many Jewish friends, and should regret giving any colour to the notion that I subscribed to the wholly pernicious and unscientific race-doctrine. No. 30: Letter to Stanley Unwin (1938-07-25); Tolkien's German publishers had written to ask him whether he was of "Aryan" origin. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by 'arisch'. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. ... But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. ... I have been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which I served in the English army. I cannot, however, forbear to comment that if impertinent and irrelevant inquiries of this sort are to become the rule in matters of literature, then the time is not far distant when a German name will no longer be a source of pride. One of two draft letters (1938-07-25) written for Stanley Unwin to select as a response to his German publishers inquiry about his ancestry. The other letter refused to answer altogether on his ancestry; since the quoted letter persists, it seems that the other letter was sent. I have in this War a burning private grudge — which would probably make me a better soldier at 49 than I was at 22: against that ruddy little ignoramus Adolf Hitler (for the odd thing about demonic inspiration and impetus is that it in no way enhances the purely intellectual stature: it chiefly affects the mere will). Ruining, perverting, misapplying, and making for ever accursed, that noble northern spirit, a supreme contribution to Europe, which I have ever loved, and tried to present in its true light. ..."
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Hope so, he was one of the better characters on that soap.
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Seriously, if you are concerned about racism you don't have any real problems, just sand in your pussy because you are a failure and looking at everyone else for the reason why instead of in the mirror.
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So other than Elijah Wood are we looking at any Americans in this at all? Seems to be entirely British/Australian/Kiwi. I guess they don't need the US actors to secure money like they did during casting for LOTR.
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another sign of the mores of his day. <P> Thank Eru PJ's adding some wimmen and romance. The hobbit needs to show some lovin to draw in the ladies. All you manly men know your ladies need something to fanatize about when they're having sex with you.
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if any of you ever have sex.
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He just didn't know how to write women. But it's true, there are no vaginas in The Hobbit. Also, AICN's spellcheck thinks "vaginas" is incorrect.
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...to play DWARVES???
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Kinda surprised at how old some of the "dwarves" look. But I can't wait to see some set pix for this. Can The Hobbit finally, really be happening?
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German. Tolkien lifted the character from Fafnir in the Ring cycle specifically and the whole wider German tradition of gold loving 'wurms', so he should be a German. Knowing PJ's love of re-using actors I'd say he should probably be calling about Thomas Kretschmer about know.
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I didn't know that about Smaug. German accent might actually work. I was thinking something rather nordic might help - to sound imperial but slightly alien (well apart to Nordic audiences obviously).
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"We must away ere break of daaaaaay, To seek the pale enchanted gold." Yeah that opening Dwarf song when Gandalf just "appears" feels so ancient and fitting.
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Yes, and most of them had been either tricked or forced into service by Sauron.
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So I’ll just ignore them and say that Cate Blanchett is not narrating, she is playing Galadriel. The films will include the scene in which Gandalf and the rest of the White Council cast the Necromancer (Sauron) out of Mirkwood. I think Ian Holm might be narrating, and the films may be framed by him telling the story to Frodo. I’m not sure how the aforementioned white council scene would work in that context, though, since Bilbo wouldn’t have been there. Maybe he can tell it as it was related to him by Gandalf.
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you spelled 'women' wrong. 'Wimmen' is actually Swedish for cum rag. It's true I looked it up.
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ok. so that is at least one woman. one woman in a cast dominated by men. which speaks very loudly.
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There's no large place for women in that kind of story. Also, as has been said emeraldboy, Galadriel will be at the White Council.
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NOW! I see that my illustrated The Hobbit large book (tie-in with their feature length cartoon) is worth approx $200! Pretty good for the $4 I spent. I'll never sell it.
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I don't see Richard Armitage. But I do see Sylvester McCoy who will play Radagast, another wizard. Also, Michael Perbrandt, a Swede, is playing Beorn.
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The Lord of the Rings suffered BADLY
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The lord of the Rings suffered BADLY because Gimli looked retarded. This will be no different.
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I apologize, I'm not Swedish. But I'll take your word on it since you must have more knowledge of such things than I. <P> So, do you use sock or wimmen?
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BRIAN BLESSED AS 'DAIN OF THE IRON HILLS'?!<p> If this news is true then he will be forgiven for spraying spittle everywhere as the Gungan king.<p> ps. to the 'Tolkien was racist', 'Tolkien was sexist' whiners who always crawl out of the woodwork in these threads. You're really tiresome. Please shut up.
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ironhelix, you think Gimli looked retarded?<p> And you're comparing this against the dwarves in Snow White? Or maybe against the dwarf in HAWK THE SLAYER?!<p> John Rhys Davies suffered hellishly to be Gimli, at least give some examples of dwarves who dont look retarded, or is your point that 'all' dwarves look retarded? In which case that's kinda mean because dwarves are born that way and most conduct themselves with great nobility in spite of the hand they've been dealt in life.<p> They may be small but they stand tall. Dwarves rock!
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Just saying.
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And you know it. Just sayin.
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http://flash.mediaworks.co.nz/tv3/streams/_definst_//News/20110211/w3_hobbitpresser_110211_330K.mp4
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http://www.3news.co.nz/The-Hobbit-media-conference--full-video/tabid/312/articleID/198020/Default.aspx
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What I mean is, fantasy dwarves are described as being stouter than a man. Gimli looked exactly like what he was, a regular human made to look shorter through forced perspective. He didn't look at all like a different species that made their living by hollowing out the entire inside of a mountain. Maybe it's just me, but in my mind, dwarves are far more burly than the stoutest of humans. Explain to me how an army of Gimli's from the LotR movies could have ever stood a chance against even men, let alone orcs and goblins. Gimi looked downright comical at times, mainly because we were supposed to believe that he was some kind of great warrior. He looked like a child in that stupid armor and make-up.
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eveyone knows Hobbits are Asian... or is it the other way around?
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I think the problem was the 3 different re-sizing methods. The forced perspective worked, because JRD was genuinely quite burly with all the crap on. Next to most of the cast he looked blocky. The issue was using the small extras and the pretty rough VFX shrinking. The extras were just slim and made Gimli look like a hobbit in armour and the VFX just scaled JRD as a tall guy, making him look slim as well. Hopefully with the big improvements in the body morph they have now (like Captain America but in reverse) they should be able to keep the dwarves looking short but stout as described by Tolkien.
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Yes that will be fucking perfect! He was awesome in the Sherlock series for the BBC
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I wouldn't mind at all if Peter did some post Ring tinkering to include Martin as the younger Bilbo seen at the beginning of Fellowship.<br /> <br /> I understand why some fans hate Lucas for adding Ian McDiarmid to Empire, altering his lines to mesh with events in Episode III. I tend to share their feelings although I appreciate that he was trying to thread all six films into a single, consistent narrative.<br /> <br /> I love the casting of Martin Freeman. Between "The Office", Hitchikers and this, he's now on his third iconic role. Since Ricky Gervais did the American office, I hope Martin Freeman shows up and banters with John Krasinski.<br /> <br /> I love Guillermo Del Torro and I tend to prefer his films to those of Peter Jackson, who I've been a big fan of since Dead Alive and Heavenly Creatures. Just the same, I'm glad he left the project. I'd rather he develop the Lovecraft project or worked on one of his original creations.<br /> <br /> Since Peter Jackson started this, it's appropriate that he return to finish it. I didn't love the Lord of the Rings movies but I still liked them quite a bit. Since, I've always preferred "The Hobbitt" to the trilogy, I'm hoping I'll feel the same way about the films. And I love the idea of telling the story of how Gandalf and his crew dispelled the Necromancer only to discover his true identity as Sauron. I believe in Jackon's ability to tell that story intelligently, which will be difficult since that part of the story isn't really described in much detail (i.e. they're going to have to make it up).
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Feb. 12, 2011, 6:12 a.m. CST
The real sherlock holmes's Watson and the real Being human's vampyre are there
by AsimovLives
By the real sherlock holmes i mean the british Tv show SHERLOCK and byt the real BEING HUMAN i mean the british version of the show, now in it's 3rd season. And those two actors are really good.
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Feb. 12, 2011, 6:17 a.m. CST
thejewhunterresurrected, it's El Toro, you ignorant ass!
by AsimovLives
"La" is for feminine genre words, and Toro (= Bull) is a masculine gender word, thus the use of "El". "Del" is a contraction of ""De" and "El", and it means "Of The" in masculine form, or else it would be "De La". You native english speaking cunts love to kick foreingers when they goof grammar, but then you show the most crass ignorance about any other language then your own. Bloody hypocrites!
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Feb. 12, 2011, 7:15 a.m. CST
Gettin a boner lookin at all these Middle Earthlings!!!!
by david_boreanez_cunt_hairz
Hope they deliver...
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...has to be seen at the cinema. Been trying to get my 7-yr old to watch them but even on a 42" screen it's too crowded and you don't get the immense scale. No-one who saw TTT at the flicks could fail to appreciate the amount of work that went into bringing Helm's Deep into life. I'm sure that PJ will bring da noize just like the first time around but The Hobbit is a very different kind of story to LotR. For one, there isn't the imminent threat of Armageddon looming over the whole proceedings.
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Complete lack of respect for the source. What a shitty, gimicky, take on the Man of Steel. So glad that it wasn't made.
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Feb. 13, 2011, 10:27 p.m. CST
There's a zebra fucked, inbred asshole on here named jewhunter, and only asimovlives has the balls to stand up to him?
by Liberal_Warrior
Bunch of fukken motards around here
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Feb. 14, 2011, 10:51 a.m. CST
THE HOBBIT Is Actually A Stronger, Tighter Story Than LOTR
by NeonFrisbee
I read the whole shebang over again when the movies came out, and man, the LOTR main story books are actually kind of a mess. Not a *bad* mess, it's still a cool story, but The Hobbit is much more straightforward and tighter than the sprawling LOTR which is rather unfocused and meandering. Too bad the filmmakers aren't striving to make this into one, solid 3 hour (tops) flick instead of needlessly breaking it up into two, most like 3 hour long, films. Raping the cash cow is what it feels like. I'll see it, of course, I almost feel obligated too. And even though I doubt I'll ever watch LOTR again (kinda over it, and I'm more into sci-fi ideas than fantasy ideas), it's undeniably a masterfully made fantasy film series.
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