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Shane Black to write & direct IRON MAN 3?!?!?!
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Shane Black writing and directing IRON MAN 3 is a fucking brilliant idea.
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PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE
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but kinda cool actually.
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I liked Black's work in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, and Downey really brought his A game to that small film. I think this could work! Maybe Black will also play Happy now :P
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I loved Iron Man 1, but hated Iron Man 2. I thought the series was dead to me, but if Shane Black is going to do it, then I'm definitely very very interested.
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Best idea ever. Black should script Expendables 2 also.
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Please, Please, PLEASE make this so!
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Go go Shane Black. But I don't know if we need another IRON MAN. With the AVENGERS cast rounding off their respective debuts, I don't know if I want another stand-alone for IRON MAN. Maybe. I'm interested in seeing what Black will bring to it, but overall kind of sick of this superhero boom. It felt old five years ago.
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Okay. Let's see that armor shine again
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Everything about Iron Man 2 was just a bad ,with Scarlet's crappy acting making it even worst. IM3 should be much better....Hopefully!
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You can blame Iron Man 2 on the same man who ultimately f'd up Spider-Man 3 -- Avi Arad. They should just get rid of him
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I've been anxiously waiting for Shane Black to write and direct again since KKBB came out. And if Shane Black gets the IRON MAN gig, maybe it'll be the first Iron Man movie to actually have a finished script *before* they start shooting! Enough of this "we'll make it up on set" bullshit.
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The rot as festered for too long.... A reboot is neccessary.
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When I followed everyone else's suit and did one of those "Top Movies of the Decade" lists last year, I had "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" in the top-15. Such an irreverant, smart, contemporary film noir. I'd LOVE to see Black get another shot behind the lens, especially if he's working with RDJ again.
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A quick search netted that result in about 2 seconds. You see, I did a quick search to make sure because I didn't want to say something without verifying it, and looking like an idiot.
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Because Marvel films will want a $100 Million film made for $24 million and they'll want it to be ready to release in 6 months time...and who the hell cares who writes the script? Neither Iron Man shot with a completed script...it worked for the first,but IM2 was a huge piece of shit.
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Dude
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Love Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. It's an inspired choice for director.
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Shane Black is the man. I sure hope this happens, 'cause it seems like Shane Black gets attached to tons of shit that never gets made.
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give us mandarin
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I know its one of those customary titles but I think the main goal for this franchise is keeping him happy.
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Feb. 9, 2011, 9 p.m. CST
Shane Black is getting too old for this shit...
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Just kidding! Shane Black is awesome!
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... it will be interesting to see what impact The Avengers movie has on IM & the others. will their world be changed by being an Avenger? will being a member of that team have consquences or responsibilities that show up in the subsequent movies with Iron Man, Thor, Cap, etc? And what comes after 3? Do they reboot with a new Tony Stark? Iron Man is now a HUGE franchise- no way it's going away. It *WILL* follow the Spidey route, and eventually be recast. Face front, true believers. We have many interesting years - and Marvel-ous movies- ahead of us...
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Feb. 9, 2011, 9:02 p.m. CST
Mr. Black, it's time for DEMON IN A BOTTLE!
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Bring it! And make us proud.
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Feb. 9, 2011, 9:03 p.m. CST
Six more days until I've got to recharge my power cell...
by ZapRowsdower
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I've been a fan of this guy since I saw him play Hawkins in Predator. Only way later I found out he was an amazing writer.
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wow...blast from the past...Kamen figures prominently in the new glam/punk auto bio by Cherry Vanilla, "Lick Me"....amazingly talented audio illustrator of film land.... and Iron Man III better feature Ant Man & The Wasp!!
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Hope he has some, you know, Iron Man scenes also.
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Forgot how great that movie is. "Do you what you get when you look up 'IDIOT' in the dictionary?" "A picture of ME?" "No. The definition of an Idiot. Which you fucking are!"
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I am constantly amazed at the Hollywood machine that fronts over $100million on movies without the script actually being completed. To me, thats like getting a hooker and *hoping* you dont catch a STD. Its such a gamble and could seriously screw you big time. I get the rush to make it, but going into production without, I dont know, the MOST important part of the whole production screams "we dont know what we are doing!"
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Faverau made sure of that!
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I was SOO FUCKING SCARED that I would hear those seven horrible words "Brett Ratner has been tapped to Direct". So I'm happier than a pig in poop right now. As far as Shane Black goes. He may succeed, he may fail, but at least he'll TRY something. It'll have bite too it. If he does fall on his face, well, it will still be better than X-Men Last stand. That's for damned sure.
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<p>Any movie made in this marvel universe after the avengers is going to run into some serious script problems. <p/> <p>If Stark ever has a problem, why would he try and tackle it himself if hes got a crew to back him up? Sure hes arrogant, probably might try. But you can never get past the fact that if stuff got too big he could always contact the rest of the team. <p/> <p>Its the power rangers problem. Why not just use the Super Hyper Megazord immediately when the bad guy shows up?<p/>
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It was a hideous, boring, stupid train wreck. Everything that was good about the first film just evaporated in the 2nd one. I loved the first film, thought it was fresh, fun, thoughtful, great. But the second one was just reprehensible. The only scene I liked was the Howard Stark interlude. Even that turned into something ridiculous and contrived by the end of it, but at the start of it, for one quiet moment, it got back in touch with the humanity present in the first film. Then the film went right back to being rubbish. I'm not familiar with Black or his work, but if he's what a lot of people here are saying he is, then good deal.
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Make it so.
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I hear he's going to make a 'serious' (cough cough) Wolverine movie. It is bound to go down as his 'Jumping the Shark' moment inside the industry.
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Just a horrid piece of garbage. I don't get the AICN contributers. Sometimes I wonder if they actually saw the same film as I did. I wonder what they see when they exhibit their excitement over the pics from the obviously putrid new Spider-Man reboot. Yet Shane Black rules. Shane Black totally rules. If Marvel has the stones to hire him, they will reap enormous benefits from doing so and they will also restore my hope in the company as a whole. Oh, yeah... Cap is probably going to rock, but Thor is gonna suck
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Feb. 9, 2011, 9:59 p.m. CST
The LAST thing Iron Man 3 needs is a "hip", comic screenwriter
by Nasty In The Pasty
The first IM had a lot of funny humor in it, but first and foremost it was an ACTION movie, and a very good one. The problem with the second was how it leaned WAY too heavilly on the snarky comic asides (from the Tropic Thunder writer), and had barely any action in it at all. I love Shane Black, but I don't need to see another Iron Man movie with less than fifteen minutes' worth of action and crammed full of trying-too-hard-to-be-quirky lines like the bizarre "two seals fighting over a grape" quip in IM2.
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Didn't he also write Monster Squad?
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Feb. 9, 2011, 10:01 p.m. CST
yeah c'mon nordling with that writer's strike comment
by charlesbronsonLIVES
simple research man. it makes a world of difference.
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Feb. 9, 2011, 10:14 p.m. CST
I thought he was attached to write and direct Death Note
by HadWoodenTeethChasedMobyDick
how could one man balance so much work?
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I want to see a sequel to Kiss Kiss Bang Bang after Iron Man 3 makes super box office!! Batman and Ironman ride again! Fuck, they should just re-release the movie in theaters now and it would be a 100 million hit! But then again, KKBB is my favorite movie of all time. I may be blinded by my KKBB love.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-ekNtkhLjs
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I'm so in.
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and I mean that internally and externally. So far, he's tackled technologists of slightly lesser stature than himself, which took the scare right out of the fights, no matter how many special effects. I would suggest to Shane that he combine Demon in a Bottle with a story of the Mandarin, and really, really mess up Tony by having him attempt to fight occult forces with his engineer's mind. 'Thor' is clearly going in this direction, which was pioneered by A.A. Attanasio in the 90's. Quantum physics and witchcraft combined would really mess Tony up, but also show him possibilities he couldn't have dreamt of. China Mieville digs into this in "Perdido Street Station" by combing occult metaphysics with chaos theory, for his 'crisis energy'.
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Feb. 9, 2011, 10:35 p.m. CST
Not one of the Good Guys, he's one of the Nice Guys
by MARCEL_THE_NEGRO_PROJECTIONIST
Now that's a movie that needs to be made. But Shane Black's take on IM3 would be the dope bomb!
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If only to give Black further clout.
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IM 2 terrible? IM2 Awful? I now don't care about Iron Man after IM2. Stick you whiny nerd bitches. IM2 certainly was no where as good as the first, but it was watchable, it was decent. It certainly doesn't deserve the bile you losers throw at it.
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Shane Black is seriously an awesome writer, and can write really good dialogue. Can he write something fitting for Iron Man 3? Depends where you want to go, if you want slap comedy, shtick, or goof ball gags then by all means go for Shane. The problem with some of these "Witty/Smart Ass Writers", is that with humor they kill tension about the villains and make the threat childish and the audience doesn't care anymore. Something in the vain of this... IronMan-[Smart ass remark, sexist joke, nihilist cue] Pepper Potts-[Concern, offended, counter-joke] IronMan-[Pop-Culture reference, sad childhood memory, Reminds everyone he's dying] Pepper Potts-[Insert line to develop plot perhaps a question is suitable, remark about Tony vs Iron Man attributes, semi-ego crushing joke towards IronMan] IronMan-[Smart ass remark, sexist joke, Hero exit cue] Change out Pepper Potts for any other character, and you've got that Iron Man 3 Script.
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Bagarozzi and Mondry (sp?). They never seem to be far behind Mr. Black when I hear news about him taking on a project these days...
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and not that Ultimate crapola. And nothing since heroes reborn, please. Try something from the Bob Layton era
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Mandarin. Make it happen. With the rings.
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well, actually problems with frank. seems he went off his meds, and there was an incident at the mall, involving some boots and, uh, he kind of spent the night under observation at the hospital. and will likely be seeing the shrink, again, real soon. don't get too upset, as all he got was a citation, and some vicodin for the pain in his feet (it would just take too long to explain), and a couple days off from work. we should be back on the air by the weekend, if not sooner. we appreciate your concern, and all the get-well-soon cards (as if). lots of good stuff coming your way, directly
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I envy you. You've clearly never seen a truly terrible movie.
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Best line ever.
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....but not great. A decent sequel as far as sequels go. It wasn't in any way "bad" but I think they can and will do better with the third installment.
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Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was awesome.
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I've been a fan of his work since the start. For a guy who has had the success he's had, Hollywood doesn't seem to respect him much. It's time for Shane to get behind the camera again.
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As inspiring as RDJ playing Iron Man. Robert - you have the clout. Make this happen.
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Feb. 10, 2011, 1:06 a.m. CST
I'm all for Black pretty much writing every action movie.
by TheMcflyFarm
Has shown he's not a bad director niether.
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Isn't Shane Black supposed to be writing a Doc Savage script? Screw Iron Man... I'd rather see the mighty Man of Bronze!
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He was fuckin Hawkins in Predator!!! How much more "action" can you get? Hawkins! Fall in position and get Carn up on da hook! http://tinyurl.com/49urljq Fer cryin out loud. The standard for action must be VERY high if Shane Black doesn't cut the mustard...
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Feb. 10, 2011, 1:29 a.m. CST
For me one of the worst thing about comic book movies are the extraneous human characters...
by Toruk_Makto
They feel/are forced, the plot must be bent to find something for them to do or to give the actor/actress 'screen time'. It limits the story and diminishes the comic book characters...sorry. Are fan films the only place where a guy like me can see un-neutered live action versions of his favorite characters? Hey, Warren Buffet, my philanthropic ole pal, how about throwing a little charity my way? Not askin for much bud, just a nice little network that produces moderately budgeted super hero fair targeted to guys like me who like their wolverine's short and spandexy...I'll even shell out a subscription fee...make it happen.
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...Especially if Disney retains Joss Whedon as an Executive Producer over the rest of Marvel's film slate. I remember a few years ago, Shane Black was doing a radio Interview with Leo Quinones, The Film Freak, and Shane mentioned that he was a huge fan of Joss's Buffy and Angel. Those two collaborating on some of Marvel's subsequent scripts or even on a script doctoring provision could be cool.
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This is great news. KKBB may be my most often watched movie. Giant robots may improve on perfection.
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Shane Black is a cool cat. He knows his actors and his good action.
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Scarlett´s ass, man!
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Talk about an overwritten, cutesy, mess of a movie. Fuck, it played like a script that had obviously been written in 1994 and been sitting in somebody's desk for too long. Love RDJ, but even he needs an actual STORY to keep him grounded. The last thing the next Iron man movie needs is more aimless streams of 'hip' dialogue.
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Cross Martin Riggs out and write Tony Stark in. The script's worth tracking down as it's a piece of dark genius.
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nice one on Shane Black getting the gig for the third if this is true, though.
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Feb. 10, 2011, 3:04 a.m. CST
"give the franchise that breath of fresh air that it needs right now"
by notgeorgekaplan
This is not the first time that I read these kind of lines in an AICN-article. And it always reads like it's written about a film that spawned about five or six sequels and they have run out of ideas. But the Iron Man franchise ist just two films! But Shane Black is promising news!
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"... but it definitely felt like a rushed pre-strike script." He's saying it FELT like a rushed, pre-strike script. Read before bitching.
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Who woulda thought that Iron Man could get even better... :)
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Can you give us Black lovers a synopsis plz?
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Isn't it?
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It's one of those ideas that make you say why didn't I think of that?!! It's just an obvious choice when you think about it. I approve.
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Is there anyway you could put the LW2 script on the net or send it out? I hate to ask but I've been looking for it for 4 years and would kill for a chance to finally read it.
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Great choice of writer-the guy can do snappy dialogue! Could bring some fresh ideas to the table after the disappointing IM2.
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The most memorable bad guy he wrote may be in the Last Boyscout. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang would be a perfect movie, with a little less generic bad guy (then again, it's a murder mystery, so there's not much time to flesh them out). I wonder how he'll write the Mandarin (or whoever the baddie may be) I would actually love it if we saw a tighter "one crisis, happening in a few hours" superhero movie. Robots attack the city while Tony has a terrible hangover... something like that.
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I thought KISS KISS BANG BANG was an ultra entertaining, kick-ass sardonic buddy movie with some pretty solid action scenes. Shane Black certainly kept the pace up well and the dynamic between Downey and Kilmer was spot on. The film also was strikingly shot. Black is an unexpected but great choice for IRON MAN 3 - hopefully this time well have more action setpieces than IR2 which was a horrid film, overstuffed with characters, too little action, long stretches of Downey acting glum.
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Feb. 10, 2011, 6:26 a.m. CST
SHANE BLACK AND RDJ WITH A $150M BUDGET? INVITE CHARLIE SHEEN!
by Darth Busey
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It was pretty terrible, and I still think the first one was one of the best comic book movies ever made.
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Black "Okay, here's the scene, you're hit, you're bleeding man." Downey "I ain't got time to bleed."
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Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang was a terrrific film. GATO!
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for Kiss Kiss. It was a fun watch but pretty much instantly forgettable.
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Just nothing that merits repeated viewings..more of a re-hash of part 1. Then again I never really liked Iron Man in his solo comics, he works much better in the Avengers.
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Feb. 10, 2011, 8:15 a.m. CST
Black should research Matt Fraction's INVINCIBLE IRON MAN series
by SpyGuy
For about three years now, Fraction and artist Salvador Larrocca have been kicking serious ass on INVINCIBLE IRON MAN. The series has a great cinema vibe and would be prime material to mine for a third IRON MAN movie. The initial storyline "The Five Nightmares" featuring Obadiah Stane's son Ezekiel would be absolutely killer on the big screen.
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..has passed away several years ago. Yes, the man behind Robin Hood, Mr. Holland's Opus, Baron Munchausen, Brazil, Don Juan, Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, hell he even did a James Bond...is gone. I've been mouring his loss ever since it happened in the early 2000s. *cries*
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I'm an admitted Shane Black fan (Lethal Weapon, Last Boy Scout, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, etc.) but... Considering the direction the Avengers would take may end up affecting how Tony's next adventure would feel, etc. I agree that we need to not do another suit vs suit or suit vs drones battle.
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Feb. 10, 2011, 9:16 a.m. CST
Jon Favreau should direct IRON MAN 3 and/or THE AVENGERS. --Do you need reasons why?
by JDanielP
In my opinion, it is a HUGE mistake to overlook Jon Favreau. You don't like "IRON MAN 2", you say? Then provide the man with a better story/script and the money to expand the effects department. --I think Favreau is actually...GROWING...as a filmmaker. Sure, the sequel (3.5 stars out of 5) doesn't quite live up to his original "IRON MAN" ...but how much fault really falls upon the director? --With "IRON MAN 2", when I watch (and crank up that wonderful sound) of Tony Stark revving up the motor in the first action scene, at the race track,...I see a blending-mix of both an orchestrated visual artistry AND a naturalistic approach to the scene. (And I WISH TO HEAVEN that Christopher Nolan would utilize such an approach with Batman, to benefit from artistic design/movement.) --The race scene was short and ended abruptly. However, in that scene alone, it shows me that Jon Favreau has great potential and will continue to grow as a filmmaker. And he is smart enough to pull from the talent of his artistic resources, which is something that I hope (but doubt) will be evident in THE AVENGERS.
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And I thought IM2 was decent fun. Certainly not great, and had some probs, but not BAD.
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Tony needs to say that in every other scene. And then we need to hear the Riggs and Murtaugh horn theme to underly this supposedly hilarious line of dialogue.
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I approve, and if this turns out to be true, my ass is already in the seat waiting.
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iron man 2 then u actually think it was a horrible film. like a delusional father who's upset his kid didn't grow up exactly the way he wanted. yes iron man 2 could have been so much better but it wasn't horrible. it was at the very least entertaining and had some great moments.
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was a perfect film. u were expecting too much outta iron man 2. i really didn't think the first iron man was as good as everybody said it was when it first came out. i like it better now but still don't think it was that much better than iron man 2.
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Whilst Iron Man 2 was ok, it did feel uninspired. I think a shake-up would be good and Black could deliver that.
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Since we're not getting his LW5, I'll gladly accept IM3.
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Feb. 10, 2011, 10:43 a.m. CST
He would be perfection.Hopefully, they give him TIME to craft something good..
by BILLY
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Feb. 10, 2011, 11:52 a.m. CST
Iron Man 2 was a pretty terrible sequel to great first film
by Quake II
That's why I was so angry when I left the theater. I expected a high quality, awesome summer film with likeabke characters and great action scenes. What I got was a complete mess. What the fuck happened to Favreau between part 1 and 2? It's like comparing The Dark Knight to Batman Forever. Completely different films where one is a great, well-made superhero story and the other looks like something made by a high school student with a severe case of ADD and a 125 million dollar budget.
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A Russian agent who sounds like a Southern California mallrat. Great call there. Anyone who has any knowledge about Black Widow knows she speaks with a THICK Russian accent. Yeah, Scarlett looked hot. The ONLY reason Iron Man 2 wasn't a 100% loss. The fight in Stark's house during the party was beyond embarrasing. Slowest start to an action movie in history (Tony Stark at a speaking engagement & Mickey Rourke building a costume for what seemed like 20 minutes. AWESOME! I'm hooked now! Zzzzzzz).
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So this is good news if it goes through. I really hope it does thought this was going to be unfortunate 3 piece to a trilogy ala Spiderman. But if they get Shane Black this movie should be great!!!!! From dialogue and especially the action!
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it just played things too safe. Favreau held position instead of going in a bold direction for the second film. So yes, now is the time for something new. Not a reboot. But it needs to strike out in a great new direction. And could we finally have a really great villain for once?
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Should take their head out of their asses for just a moment. A reboot? Seriously? Reboot your brain idiot. Yea, let's reboot a franchise a year after its latest film. What a total moron. Sometimes in these TB's I feel like I am the safety monitor roaming the elementary school watching out for dumb little kids. Back to class little fools...learn something, cause your all idiots. Chopped.
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I kinda miss your comments that all ended with "It all felt like it descended into a big budget A-Team shootout etc"...Time to bring that back.
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What? After one brilliant film and a safe sequel? Oh and it looks like that failure Favreau will never work again after Iron Man 2's implied failures. No, what Iron Man 3 needs is a director free from Marvel's inteference.
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All in good time my friend.
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I swore the terrorist leader from IM1 was going to be Mandarin. I mean his organization was called The Ten Rings! And he kept rubbing a ring... I was pumped. Doubt that will come together now. I'd actually like to read some of your guys reviews of Iron man 2. I only saw it once but didn't hate it, didn't love it obviously. But I'd like to read why some of you guys hate it so much. Don't just talk about Scarjo's lack of a Russian accent. That is not enough to show why you hate a movie.
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Quite correct in that assessment. Idiotic fanboys who don't get exactly what they want always cry "reboot" or "need some new life breathed into this" or some other cliche statement. Morons....your bus is leaving. Chopped.
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make it happen
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Yes, why, why didn't these fanboys like IM2? All I ever hear is that "IM sucked!!" That's it. Come on morons, back up your brilliant statements with something more. Maybe I should go back to being a guidance counselor, at least i am surrounded by hot tail, underage and still dumb as crap, but better than the morons that hang around in here.
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Shane Black thends to be over-hyped in here, but he's definatly talented, and showed good directing skills with KISS KISS BANG BANG. Now, the really important question is, will Shane actually manage to write a good villain this time? Because by his own admission, his biggest flaw as a storyteller and writer is to create interesting memorable vilains, since he spends all his time and energy creating the heroes.
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What happened to the other movies AICN has said Shane Black is writing and directing? I recall him supposedly making Doc Savage a while back, and then him being on board with some other project (which escapes me now, dammit) not long ago. I'd love it if he was on a lot more projects, but it seems like his name gets tossed around, then nothing ever comes of it. It's frustrating, because he does good writing, unlike a number of people out there getting consistent work on big genre pictures. That said, go, Shane! Hope this happens.
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They set him up but did so in a vague fashion, intentionally. They didn't want to make any definite decisions so they left it unsaid whether the guy was Mandarin, was working for him, etc. They planted the seeds so they could come back later and do what they want with them. And as I understood it the plan was to try and get Mandarin in the third film, never the second. It was felt there had to be more of a grounding in reality setup before audiences could be expected to believe in something as outlandish as Mandarin.
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Gay Perry and Harry Lockhart should be up there with Riggs and Murtaugh as the greatest action hero buddies. And how hot is Michelle Monoghan in that movie?
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It was not as perfect as the first for me, but I did like it. The things that bothered me were: Changing the actor for Rhodes, when this movie's story played off of the friendship between he and Tony in the first. I didn't feel the connection anymore, since it was not the same person from the first (and I did feel their friendship worked and was believable in the first film.) In this one Rhodes seemed like he had no real history with Tony, which was a flaw. Whiplash was, basically, wasted. I loved the character and his portrayal, but he was given so little to do. Most of his scenes involved him int he workshop playing with technological stuff. The scene at the racetrack was cool, but was over much too quickly, and then nothing equaled it later on. I felt his ending made no sense, either. Why would he throw away his life going into battle vs. Iron Man and War Machine? It didn't fit his character goals as established earlier. I'd have preferred it if Black Widow and Happy found the empty room and then we never saw Whiplash again, until perhaps a final scene of him in some new hideout with his own workshop assembled, working on his next plot against Stark. Hammer was a fun character, but never felt like a threat to Iron Man. The drone chase/fight was never in doubt as to the outcome. The villain from the first film was far more intimidating and felt like a real threat to everyone around him. I did like the scene of the drones running rampant at the expo, however! They felt like a threat initially, but once Iron Man showed up, eh, not so much. Anyhow, I don't feel Iron Man 2 was by any means a failure or a bad film, merely a flawed one. Compared to the first it is lacking. With a few tweaks or different decisions made it would have been awesome. I don't plame Favreau either, as he wanted more time and Marvel told him he couldn't have it, so he bit the bullet and made the best thing he could under the constraints. And can we please stop calling for reboots every time something isn't perfect please? Long running installments that moved on despite lesser entries in the series (with new directors, new actors if need be) are what we should all be asking for, not reboots and reimaginings every few years!
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Personally I'd compare it to Batman (1989) and Batman Returns. The sequel lacks the focus of the original but still has merit and can be fun to watch.
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Why did I hate Iron Man 2? The main reason is that is felt nothing like the amazing Iron Man 1. The pacing was off, the editing was quicker and sloppier, the story was lazy and the film was PACKED with characters that we didn't have time to care about. The story was as hack as it gets. A final battle with mindless, soulless ROBOTS? There's a scenario that hasn't been done to death (just ask George Lucas). We have no emotional investment in Tony Stark in Iron Man 2. He's a cartoon character now. Pepper Potts is reduced to a one line character and the new villians, Avengers players & agents are thrown at us at such arapid pace that it literally drowns the film in nothing more than a bunch of new action figures to buy at Toy-R-Us. The whole film reeks of corporate and toy manufacturer meddling. The heart and soul that made Iron Man 1 so fantastic is COMPLETELY missing from part 2. The drama and danger that Tony faced in part 1 is GONE. It becomes a loud, messy CGI light show towards the end with no sense of danger or environment. And the worst crime of Iron Man 2 is that is was even with DULL. I literally felt nothing as I stared at the screen. It was about as fun as watching Transformers 2.
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It just felt like an extension from the first film, so I really can't say it was "bad" or "terrible". The mistake was selling it as a true sequel.
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Punching up the dialogue couldn't hurt but this isn't a romantic comedy like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang this sci-fi/action. What really failed about Iron Man 2 was the generic, uncreative action scenes.
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Feb. 10, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST
Any mouth breather who talks smack about Kiss Kiss Bang Bang....
by archer1949
has no right to judge ANYTHING. They'd be better off watching Michael Bay's latest opus. One of the best, most quotable movies made in the last quarter century. It's one of the few movies I can watch over and over and not get sick of it. "Still gay?" "Me? No, I'm knee deep in pussy. I just liked the name so much, I couldn't get rid of it." So yeah. KKBB. Fucking WIN.
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IM 2 was NOT "terrible". Wasn't great and a bit of a disappointment, but not bad.
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Didnt think Iron Man 2 was shit or anything, it just had a bunch of problems. I hope Tartakovsky is back for storyboards, that and the rest of the talent saved that movie from being a hell of a lot worse.
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You detested the fine movie that is IRON MAN 2,which is in all ways an equal to the first movie, and yet you fell in gay love with Jar Jar Abrams's GAY TREK. Who the hell understands you? Who can understand this shit? Unbelievable!!
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A lot of it I even prefer over the first (which I LOVE). Yeah, I said it. Next thing you know, everyone will be saying it's worse than Batman & Robin (like they do with Spidey 3, which - while nowhere near great, wasn't even within 50,000 miles of how bad B&R was.) Quit with the fucking exaggerations. It's just plain silly.
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because I exaggerated right before I said "quit exaggerating". Fight fire with fire I suppose.
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you are utterly and totally clueless. why do you need a script for a $100 million film? Iron Man 2 made how much money? People in Hollywood make fillms to make profits, not to make a film that you might like. Marketing is what is most important not script. It is very low on the list.
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You know how betrayed you felt when you sat there watching Star Trek redux by Abrams. That feeling in the pit of your stomach that something you loved was being taken apart and destroyed, to the extent that it didn't even resemble the original property except the character names and costumes? Yeah, that's what I felt watching Iron Man "Let's sell some toys!" 2. Favreau showed up and yelled "Action", then took a nap, woke up and cashed his fat paycheck at the bank. There's a reason he's not back for Iron Man 3..He lost all creative control on 2 and obviously hated the end results himself. How can I like a movie that the director won't even talk about anymore?
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I thought IM2 sucked. It wasn't even close to being a good film. It was just scenes thrown together to showcase RDJ and it didn't work. Too bad shitcanne Howard and gave Pepper Pot retarded dialouge from Ally McBeal. The villian was never given time to become a true villian and ScarJo should never been cast! What a clusterfuck!
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it was 6.5 out of ten kind of movie certainly wasn't terrible
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..the gem that Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is, then I'm in! One of the most overlooked films of the last 10 years. I'd love to see what he does with Downey in Iron Man.
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I actually really enjoyed Iron Man 2. I felt the first one was great except for the last 20 minutes or so, which just sort of seemed tacked on... like "oh crap we've got to have a big battle!" At least in Iron man 2 the bad guy was more integral to the story. I thought it was really pretty good actually... why all the hate?
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KISS KISS BANG BANG is a superb film. Since we may not get the sequel it so desperately deserves (I doubt Val Kilmer could convincingly play the svelte Gay Perry), this is the next best thing. <br><br> And do try to work Michelle Monaghan in somehow. The fact that the best Hollywood could do in reuniting her and Downey is fucking DUE DATE makes me throw up in my mouth.
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Don Cheadle. Man now that's an actor I can't stand. Just way overrated in my book. He's always so damn self-aware, it kills all his roles. Sure Terrence Howard's supposed to be this huge jack-hole but that cat can act and his chemistry with RDJ was off the charts. I honestly believed in that friendship. So in short switch Howard back in as Rhodes and from now 'til the end of time replace Cheadle with Lennie James in all his roles. Now Lennie James, now that's a great actor.
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I'm sorry for how you feel about IRON MAN 2. But there's no way that movie can bcompare to the total fucking idioticy ansd betrayal that is Abrams's latest movie. And actually, i only known TOS in full AFTER Abram's movie. but i donpt need to be a trekkie to see what a screwed up movie that was. Even if the movie had just been called SPACE ADVENTURE: THE MOVIE it would still be shit. It's bad not jus tbecaus eit's a bad adaptation, but because it's a bad movie, period.
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Feb. 11, 2011, 3:48 a.m. CST
braindrain, i'm sorry that you are always taking your baby nap when i talk about anything but Abrams Trek.
by AsimovLives
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Feb. 11, 2011, 3:50 a.m. CST
Truly, more and mroe i'm convinced aht AICN geekdom is not about the movies but about the hype of the movies
by AsimovLives
IRON MAN 2 a terrible movie? Praising the shit out of that movie you know i'm talking about. Truly you have lost your way.
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Feb. 11, 2011, 3:54 a.m. CST
quake ii, the reason that Favreu doesn't talk about IRON MAN 2 and refused to go back to IRON MAN 3...
by AsimovLives
... is that he just got fed up with the constant meddling from Marvel. What we could be saying here is that IRON MAN 2 could had been a better movie, had Marvel had more faith and trust in the director. Which they should had. From what heard, Marvel is now very difficult to work with. They are so obsessed with their future Avengers franchise that they alienate and compromise the organic flow of the individual superheroes story movies to fix in with the later Avengers. And many filmmakers are resenting that. IRON MAN 2 is a fine movie. Could had it been better? Now that's another matter.
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... is not even the superhero stuff, but the relationship between Stark and Potts. Downey Jr and Paltrow milk all of it for all it's wroth. Seeing the banter between the two is a whole movie on it's own. The two have unbelievable chemistry.
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Feb. 11, 2011, 10:53 a.m. CST
smack_teddy, are you cruising, you want some? Wrong door, pal.
by AsimovLives
And nobody bitches against bad movies, fool. It's called criticism, ignoramus.
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