Feb. 9, 2011, 7:17 p.m. CST
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Feb. 9, 2011, 7:20 p.m. CST
ugh. I still can't believe this. I was just on a Highlander movie marathon yesterday (watched all of them except for "the source").
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:20 p.m. CST
Yay....sparkly immortals who all look like pre-teen boys. The only way they'll get my money is if they cast Justin Beiber as the new MacCleod and then have Clancy Brown's Kurgan decapitate him in the last act. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!!!
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:22 p.m. CST
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:23 p.m. CST
by John Maddening
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. I'm not all that interested in seeing it.
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST
by Holy Hell
the last thing we need is another bs attempt to recreate LOTR resonance a la Clash of the Titans, Narnia, etc. Highlander is gritty, urban filth with flashes of magic puncturing the membrane. That's it's strength. The microbudget helps.
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:25 p.m. CST
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:25 p.m. CST
The one with the guns? Not that I was looking forward to that, in fact, I hated the idea. I was waiting for that potential piece of crap to come out, and have been grateful not to see it.
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:26 p.m. CST
It's a good one.
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:28 p.m. CST
by Holy Hell
are Detroit and New Orleans too obvious?
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:34 p.m. CST
writers who are completely clueless about the subject matter are awarded these gigs all the time. ...or don't you watch comic book movies?
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:35 p.m. CST
This is BS... I couldn't agree more with this article that for all its flaws, its a solid film with a good heart. Its the roughness and grittiness here that adds to it. It needs to have that really gritty Peter Jackson LOTR feel. There is a little sentimentality speaking here but I'm not being protective of my 'childhood' here. More so being protective of the IDEA! Protective of the remake possibilities and the story itself. Keep ANYONE involved from Twilight away from a new Highlander picture.
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:37 p.m. CST
Connor (in his early 20s) doesn't want to fight, instead he longs to be with a woman and be mortal and fall in love like he used to with his first love Heather (she is in her early 20s). Kurt "The Kurgan" (who is in his mid-30s) is making his way through the handful of immortals left. One day Connor thinks he sees Heather, but it's a different woman (but she will be played by the same actress). In the end Connor wins against Kurt the Kurgan (beheaded off-screen) and Connor gets to be mortal and be with his true love.
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:38 p.m. CST
by D o o d
it will be a teen angst movie full of ripped bodies and boring plot!
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:41 p.m. CST
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:46 p.m. CST
But anyway.... "HHHEEEEEEEERRRRREE WEEE ARRRREEEE! BOOORRRN TO BE KINGS!"
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:49 p.m. CST
She just adapted the horrible books.
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:52 p.m. CST
She knows how to bring the darkness. I'm confident that she'll do HIGHLANDER justice.
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:54 p.m. CST
Pure sissified crap in a jar!!
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:56 p.m. CST
Do not make this mistake in the future. Carry on.
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:56 p.m. CST
Who's dumbass idea was this?
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:56 p.m. CST
Melissa Rosenberg ADAPTED the Twilight novels into screenplays. She contributed to the ADAPTATION of "Darkly Dreaming Dexter" into the series "Dexter." Now she's adapting the original "Highlander." Hell, it will probably cross the desks of a few hack writers before landing in the hands of a hack director who ruins the whole thing. Hmm. Never mind what I said about relaxing. Better start panicking.
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:56 p.m. CST
Seriously, I hope they at least have a cameo with Clancy Brown. That guy looks/sounds like an awesome villain.
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:57 p.m. CST
If it's PG-13, the beheadings will be implied and off screen, blood will be black rather than red, and there won't be even the hints of partial nudity. It's needs to be a hard R for the violence and adult themes.
Feb. 9, 2011, 7:59 p.m. CST
You beat me to it. She seems to stay very faithful to source material and because she did a great job writing Dexter episodes, I say go for it. The Twilight movies aren't bad because of her. They're bad because the books are bad and she can't really deviate from the source material much so as not to alienate the Twihards out there. I think it'll be the same with the Highlander flick.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:01 p.m. CST
Now lemme quicken ya right up yer arse ya wee harlot!
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:01 p.m. CST
And she's been a consulting producer on DEXTER off the hop. So maybe we can keep the bullshit hysteria down just a little bit? Christ. Fuck you if you think you'd say no to TWILIGHT money if someone asked you to adapt it. Legions of dumb, obsessive-compulsive fans would crawl so far up your ass if you deviated an inch from the source material. Oh hey! kind of like what's preemptively happening here for no reason! Yay reactionary ignorance! Maybe it will suck, but probably less than Nordling.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:02 p.m. CST
And I love me some Dexter.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:04 p.m. CST
by THE WALLACE
I re read the article a few times, and I'm POSITIVE it said the "Screenwriter" of Twilight, not the AUTHOR of Twilight. You see the difference right? Okay, I'll try and explain.. As a Screenwriter, when you are handed a book called "Twilight" with a sparkly vampire in love with a broody girl, then you write a movie (maybe poorly) about a sparkly vampire in love with a broody girl. If you hand in a script about a bad ass vampire, terrorizing a happy teen girl, killing her family, bathing in their blood, you're going to get some notes. I'm not saying she WON'T turn Highlander into Twilight if given the freedom, but assuming she will cuz she delivered a script for Twilight that was exactly the tripe that Twilight the "novel was, makes NO sense.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:06 p.m. CST
NOT LA smh
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:09 p.m. CST
and I still can't find a reason for all the hate on this awesome movie.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:09 p.m. CST
I can see this turn into Twilight very easily with immortals and sad teenage girls. Christ, just let this franchise go.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:12 p.m. CST
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:12 p.m. CST
I like that about HIGHLANDER. Not everything needs to be marinated in epicosity. In fact, forced or unnecessary attempts at grandiosity are really starting to get on my nerves. Probably one of the many reasons I loved VALHALLA RISING so much.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:22 p.m. CST
by jay sinofsky
That's the sound of me screwing a suppressor onto my .45- I'm going screenwriter hunting. Fuck this noise.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:22 p.m. CST
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:23 p.m. CST
She got this job because of Twilight. In fact,the ONLY reason the studio is even remotely interested in making this movie,is because they see it as a TWILIGHT ripoff cash-grab. Some studio executive was high on coke and figured out that if you replace vampires with immortals...its kind of the same movie(not really)!!! If the suits had their way,this flick would be written by the same person who wrote the TWILIGHT screenplay(which it is) then they'll try and get the composer and director who worked on TWILIGHT and I can guranfuckingtee they will pursue the leads of TWILIGHT for the leads in HIGHLANDER....and if they cant get them,they'll find their non-union Toronto equivalents. And then they'll market it as TWILIGHT with swords.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:29 p.m. CST
To Nordling and others that are saying "this and that" better not be in the script. Rosenberg has adapted the screen plays for the Twilight Saga, A-D-A-P-T-E-D. The endless pining, angst, etc, was already there in the source material, she just adapted it to the screen. If she is a good screenwriter, then she will write a script which has nothing to do with the Twilight Saga films.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:29 p.m. CST
For Best Movie Ever Made.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:32 p.m. CST
Maybe she's basing it off those?
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:33 p.m. CST
thats all I have to say to that. Oh, and the ghosts of a million midnite movies will haunt whoever tries to remake Highlander!
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:34 p.m. CST
I once thought a terrific 'Highlander' idea would include a centuries old vampire who kept an immortal hostage and fed off of him to keep himself alive and strong.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:34 p.m. CST
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:36 p.m. CST
Shoot me in the face if he actually says that
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:37 p.m. CST
...P.S. I love Queen and HIGHLANDER.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:37 p.m. CST
this shouldn't be a sword and sorcery epic. It needs to be urban fantasy. That's what made the original unique. Who ever sees anyone pull out a sword in the middle of NYC? I kinda wish they could take a page from Neil Gaiman and Charles DeLint, in the way they mix the urban with the fantastic, like in American Gods, Neverwhere, or any of DeLint's novels set in Canada. I would like to see a decent Highlander film after that abortion they called the Source. And I preferred Duncan and the series to Conor and the movies. And I still hated it.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:52 p.m. CST
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:55 p.m. CST
Firstly, do not have one central character who you know is going to win. Have several, each with their own distinctive story and personality type. Secondly, have more than one movie. A trilogy, covering several centuries. Allow time for plot and emotional investment to build. It might be done better as a high budget mini-series. But I would love to see it done in a manner whereby you'd find yourself gravitating towards a personal favourite from several strong characters rather than having one imposed upon you by the story. There would be real tension in every fight. It'd be like watching a deadly tennis tournament: you would seriously have no idea who was going to win. Of course, you'd need to make the plot in between the pivotal moments of death compelling in its own right, but essentially what we're talking about is having a story about demigods who have lived for centuries, loved, learned, had setbacks, triumphs, experienced moments of loyalty and betrayal, and it could all end in one deadly moment. The key to Highlander's conceptual core is that each immortal's life is worth more than the average man's, and therefore each death is of greater significance. And it would be fucking awesome if old friends were forced to fight at The Gathering, and old scores settled.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:56 p.m. CST
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:58 p.m. CST
Well, only the first is worth anybody's time, for sure. Is it a great movie? Hmmm...no. But it's a great concept, and an INTERESTING execution. It's distinctive. Mulcahy when he still had some ideas, interesting casting choices, great soundtrack - both Queen and Michael Kamen. It has a certain SOMETHING about it...a kind of magical quality that's hard to put your finger on. I still really love it.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:58 p.m. CST
WE'RE THE PRINCES OF THE UUUUU-NI-VEEEERSE!!! Highlander without Queen is unthinkable.
Feb. 9, 2011, 8:59 p.m. CST
"Highlander is gritty, urban filth with flashes of magic puncturing the membrane." Good description. I like it.
Feb. 9, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST
A bloody good Highlander video game. Not the shit that's been made before, some contrived crap with some kind of shit-ass quest bolted on. Fuck that shit. Just a freeform battle down the ages until the Gathering: Soul Calibur with an added RPG meta-game. Move to new locations, meet other immortals, befriend or fight, learn new techniques from some, teach some, fight some. Decapitation is necessary to resolve any fight, with other wounds serving to slow your moves down. Try to seek out your brethren or deliberately avoid them. Choose new weapons and fighting styles. Your appearance changes automatically over the ages. Choose to be an early-born immortal (harder road to The Gathering, but more likely to be powerful when you get there) or late-born. And all roads lead to modern day New York when only eight or so immortals remain.
Feb. 9, 2011, 9:10 p.m. CST
Yeah, Dexter's not bad, but everything else on her resume is shit. And I don't give a crap if she adapted Twilight... the screenplay still reeked. Horrible choice given the facts. I could be wrong, but I'm probably not.
Feb. 9, 2011, 9:11 p.m. CST
Love the fact that nobody has noticed this video was re-edited to make it look like a movie in which MacLeod does nothing other than walk around New York at a steady pace: http://tinyurl.com/yds7oov
Feb. 9, 2011, 9:14 p.m. CST
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Feb. 9, 2011, 9:20 p.m. CST
It at least shows that she has quality things on her resume, not just the TWILIGHT movies. But then, talkbackers have never been the most level-headed people to lurk on the internet.
Feb. 9, 2011, 9:30 p.m. CST
The ONLY feature films she's written are the Twilight movies. And even an adaptation can improve upon mediocre source material. She has shown no desire to do so (I've seen all of the films, sadly). Dexter varies in quality from episode to episode (especially of late), and more importantly it's a TV show... completely different structure than film. Btw, the Twilight movies are leisurely paced like a TV show, and that has a LOT to do with how the screenplay is structured and written. I don't go off on everything like most talkbackers (like everyone on the Spider-Man thread judging the stuntman's costume). I usually take a wait-and-see approach. But this idea immediately strikes me as awful. Time will tell, and I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong. Fuck, I certainly hope I am.
Feb. 9, 2011, 9:32 p.m. CST
Guess she does have one other film under her belt. And it's shit too.
Feb. 9, 2011, 9:40 p.m. CST
Its about as high brow as a He-Man episode from the 80's. "I AM THE POOOOWWWWEEER!"
Feb. 9, 2011, 9:48 p.m. CST
You went down to the garage to give a sparkly guy a blow job. You just didn't want to pay for it.
Feb. 9, 2011, 10:04 p.m. CST
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Feb. 9, 2011, 10:11 p.m. CST
for its time, Highlander is still my favorite show from the mid 90s (only other competitors were early X-Files, still getting on its feet, Deep Space Nine which was starting to get good, and the occasional Xena). I was only somewhat interested in the film - but just couldn't relate to the stoniness of Lambert's Conor. Over time, though, I got really invested in the story and character of Duncan McLeod and how they dealt with themes of redemption and the like when you live forever in a lifestyle based in violence. I really think the show, in its limited budget, 90s Canadian campy kinda way, really explored those themes really well. The problem was - I think this was the problem inherent in all Highlander stories - was how to end it. Obviously, the first film screwed the pooch by giving him the prize. Where can you possibly go from there? (besides a terrible sequel). And in the show, once they killed off Richie (and I'm still not sure how I feel about that, all those years later. It's as if Batman kills Robin himself. Either brilliant or fucking crazy), they just didn't know what to do. If they had the balls to do the original season 5 finale they had intended, they could have gone down a pretty dark road. But the show ended in a whimper, and we got Endgame, which was mildly entertaining, but not great, and then the shitstorm that was the Source. See, even though 'there can be only one' is a great tagline, I'm not sure it doesn't eventually paint the character into a corner. I think ultimately, a show like Angel did a better job with the whole immortality/redemption thing (of course, Forever Knight did it first, but not as well), precisely because there wasn't an exact endgame. The concept could go on because there will always be struggles. You can't kill every last vampire or demon. So if they do remake this one, I hope they solve that problem of the ending. And not with aliens. Or jumps to the future.
Feb. 9, 2011, 10:15 p.m. CST
I agree with him, yes Twilight may not be the best thing to have on a resume but she had a hand in some of the best episodes of Dexter (first season finale anyone?), and also *adapted* Twilight. If anything Stephanie Meyer is the one to blame for Twilight being terrible, I would think that shitty source material would make for a shitty movie no matter how talented a writer you are.
Feb. 9, 2011, 10:19 p.m. CST
so it's doomed from the start to bad i loved the first one
Feb. 9, 2011, 10:28 p.m. CST
The Quickening would make him SPARKLE!
Feb. 9, 2011, 11:14 p.m. CST
I'm counting on this one doing the double-negative to positive thing (you know, a Highlander sequel + Twilight) and expect it to be actually good. We must remember that Twilight was Stephenie Meyer's brainchild, not of this poor screenwriter, who might even be a closet Highlander fan! And what the hell are these "other Highlander movies" you TalkBackers keep yapping about? THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!
Feb. 9, 2011, 11:18 p.m. CST
by Carl XVI Gustaf
Haven't seen the original in a long while. But aren't the immortals born just like everyone else? So if they have a big fight and the main guy is "the only one" won't there eventually be new (born) guys to fight? I mean, he just have to sit there and wait, don't wanna kill kids (if he's a hero). At what point/age is it OK to kill them? When is an immortal adult and killable? My guess is he's gonna have to wait until they come for him. Sequel.
Feb. 9, 2011, 11:23 p.m. CST
there's no actor on earth that can do justice to the highlander other than Lambert, and NO WAY the Kurgan should EVER be performed by anyone other than Clancy.... Let us be clear, Russel may not be the worlds most gifted director...but he did hit one homerun....lets not fuck it up....I can't believe anyone would want to see this remade....it's perfect as it is...why do you think it's such a cult hit after all these years? I dunno Nordling...what are you doing here on AICN if you have as daft an opinion as this? Where's your fucking credibility? Seriously.
Feb. 9, 2011, 11:32 p.m. CST
by Munro Kelly
The first movie was Russell Mulcahy's finest hour, none of his films after that were even close to being as visually inventive. You could feel that it was his big break and he really wanted to prove himself. The transitions between the different time periods were awesome. He used every device that could move a camera and you could tell he was having a blast. The idea to use Queen on the soundtrack was genius. Michael Kamen was a good choice for the score. The film was a treat for the eyes and the ears.
Feb. 9, 2011, 11:33 p.m. CST
"Last time I checked."
Feb. 9, 2011, 11:42 p.m. CST
Only a hack willing to cater to retarded die hard fans and completely unconcerned with creativity or applying one's own stamp to a work could do highlander justice in the eyes of its fanboys. As other talkbackers have hinted if she took the book twilight and made the movie twilight, she is probably the only candidate who could potentially not fuck up a highlander remake, anyone else would be ashamed.
Feb. 9, 2011, 11:52 p.m. CST
i can't believe nobody wrote that yet.
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:17 a.m. CST
Doesn't it seem that way? I wouldn't be shocked if it was a front for money laundering or something. I was always suspicious of Carolco & Cannon Pictures as well.
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:25 a.m. CST
And the Queen soundtrack was the rug that tied the whole room together.</p> Highlander 2 was like being ass-raped with a pineapple.</p> Highlander 3 was like being ass-raped again with a slightly smaller pineapple, but after that first ass-raping you're just dead inside anyway, so you don't really feel it.</p>
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:29 a.m. CST
... I wish they could go back for some re-shoots and upscale the special effects that they had. I love all of the periodic scenes. Everything. Sean Connery, Scotland, the infamous duel. The "modern" era not so much. I cringe at a lot of the 80s stuff. But just like with Terminator, I shrug it off and appreciate what the film was for when it was released.
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:29 a.m. CST
Feb. 10, 2011, 1:28 a.m. CST
the team who has tainted the color black and the idea of darkness for this generation - will have no chance of generating any revenue from this concept. sucking blood from a neck and turning it into glitter dust is not removing the skull of another and turning it into puppy beating. they would have to give this a definite R rating and give the film to: the wachowski brothers. kathryn bigelow (near dark? come on. excellent.) zack snyder (at least it would be totally bloody) paul verhoeven christophe gans or maybe Frank Darabont if he gave a shit. look. i could throw a serious tantrum and beat my girlfriend over this atrocity. but im being adult about the situation. don't fuck up yet another alternative lifestyle or image (aka Conner McCloud) or connection between Sean Connery aka elder figure. Master etc. Christ... Stop being fucking pansies you horse shit Production Houses and pay buy new stories god damn you. Take a chance! Maybe you'll find your head out of your ass!
Feb. 10, 2011, 1:59 a.m. CST
And a writer is supposed to write different sorts of stories. Nobody complained about Aaron Sorkin having written Malice(with Scott Frank to boot, guess their combined qualities cancelled each other out!), when he started work on the Social Network. Nobody should be judged by their worst work ever. Besides look back at the Highlander series and you'll notice that Highlander is a pretty bad film, with a nice score and some moments, but still pretty bad overall. The second one is atrocious. The rest don't even merit talking about and the less said about the terrible tv series the better. In my opninion the only version of highlander that ever worked was the anime version, which was surprisingly cool.
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:06 a.m. CST
Ill agree with Nordling that the premise is totally cool, and done right could be amazing. Problem is, there's already been one OK movie, a passable TV series, and what- five(???) HORRIBLE sequels. That goose is cooked. To most people Highlander=crap. Just adapt it into a fresh concept and call it new.<P> What about a period movie about some Chinese barbarian that is hunting an English peasant because he believes some prophecy that he'll become a great warrior and and lead an army into the Far-East? Peasant meets some guy that helps him learn to fight and ambush the barbarian. I dunno, just an idea. Play with the story and make it new. Bail on the mystical immortal angle. Just my 2 cents- I'm an artist, not a screenwriter.
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:08 a.m. CST
...has just gone prolapse. I mean, that last one The Source I think it was, was was simply one of the most horrifying things I've ever watched. Episodes of the TV series were better than that. Hell, dumps I've taken were better. The Highlander series has never gotten any love. No one ever seemed to know what to do with the series after the first. Just what we need now, Emo McCloud of the Clan McEmoMcCloud. Kristen Stewart will be the love interest. *Gack*
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:11 a.m. CST
Get Brian Thompson to channel his performance from Stallone's Cobra! And of course only one man could paly the Highlander. Gerald Butler!!!
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:39 a.m. CST
HIGHLANDER = Great fuckin movie!<p> Shot with blood, sweat and balls in the Highlands and on the streets of New York.<p> To me it's a 'lightning in a bottle' movie. And Nordling's wrong to say a higher budget would have improved it. I'd 100% put it in the same league as other dirty little genre flicks from the time; TERMINATOR and ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK.
"Are the stars just pinholes in the curtain of night?"<p> No need to rewrite that Melissa Rosenberg..<p>
"Are you a faggot Nash?"<p> "Why Garfield, you cruising for a piece of ass?"<p> "You know what I think, I think you went down the garage for a blow job - just didn't want to pay for it."<p> "Hah. You're sick."<p> No need to rewrite that Melissa Rosenberg..
playkins, yes it's pretty easy to adapt the basic themes of HIGHLANDER into a wholly different story.<p> I think one of the reasons I prefer BATMAN BEGINS over TDK is because there's 'a little bit of HIGHLANDER' in the Bale and Neeson training scenes!
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:07 a.m. CST
I'm so fucking sick of them remaking CLASSIC movies. some things should be left well alone, get some kind of historic registry to keep these money grabbing cunts from fucking things up Cunts.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:13 a.m. CST
Who's to give the next Terminator movie? To the guy who made The Charnlie's Angels movie! Who to give Transformers movie? To the guy who made Bad Boys 2! Who to give the next Star Trek movie? to the creator of Felicity! Who to give the next X-Men movie? To the guy who made Money Talks and Rush Hour! Maybe the problem with TWILIGHT is not so much the screenwriter but the fact that the original work was poisoned to begin with. Sure enough, the screenwriter didn't correct much. Still... i'll only have an opinion about this when i learn who they hired to direct the movie.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:18 a.m. CST
And he complaisn about the Zeist bullshit? What he wanted form HIGHLANDER would be as bad! The beauty of HIGHLANDER was that the only fantastic element of the movie was the immortals. The rest was real world. That's the beauty of the premise behind HIGHLANDER. And having a scottish with a deep scottish accent playing a spaniard, i mean, an egypcian.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:25 a.m. CST
He spends the first movie in constant depression. His deadpan snarks all come from aplace of melancoly. He is a very, very melancolic person. He's a doer when somebody wants to take off his head, because the only thing he has for him is The Prize. He dos mop about his lost love, his beloved sceottish wife he saw die in the 16th century. Just because a main character is a melancolic fella who longs for his dearly departed love doesn't mean that the movie has to be bad. There's good ways and bad ways to present that in an interesting story. just because TWILIGHT did it badly doesn't mean that all melancolic heroes stories are bad, for christ's sakes!
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:26 a.m. CST
I'm not too sure if it will work too well today. Specially if they try to make it into a full action movie.
I love Highlander, flawed as it is (and it is) but my goodwill for the original film has stretched enough that I sat through every sequel and a lot of the television episodes and God help me, I still love Highlander. I think that it’s worthwhile pointing out here that I know nothing of the Twilight series apart from the fact that if there was a franchise that was in no way aimed at me it would be the Twilight franchise. Haven’t read the books and have seen about 20 minutes of the first film and gave up. I do think that Nordling’s article is underplaying the romance that was a defining part of the first movie, Connor was a lonely immortal. The scenes with Heather up until the unfortunately written death scene (and Heather’s make up was pretty bad) – the second love story involving Brenda was less successful but mostly because Brenda came across as an absolute arsehole and the scenes between her and Connor were badly written and rushed. So, I have no problem with Connor being a lonely immortal as it was who he was in the original. I do think that the movie gets by an awful lot by charm – Lambert really isn’t very good as Connor, the visible wires during the climax are really, really distracting, some of the fight choreography is silly to the point of being distracting (Fasil’s back flipping in the car park is ‘cool’ but ridiculous). However, Lambert, while not being very good is strangely charismatic in the part, Connery and Clancy Brown are brilliant, the music (not just Queen but Michael Kamen’s gorgeous score) is fantastic, the vistas of Scotland against the washed out neon 80’s New York is brilliant and the story is solid and as others have said has a good heart. The sequels – Highlander II (drivel with a handful of nice scenes – I do love the opening where the elderly Connor goes to the Opera and it’s almost filmed exactly the same as the Madison Square Garden wrestling in the first movie), Connery again (even though his resurrection doesn’t make a lick of sense) and Michael Ironside and John C McGinley are always worth watching. III – I only remember Mario Van Peebles continuing the trend of evil immortals that sounded like the needed a throat lozenge. IV – had literally no idea what was happening. The Source – have literally no idea how that film can exist - it's like it's fallen through from a parallel universe where no-one had ever made a film before. As for the remake – yeah, I’m all for it but get an experienced screen writer for it, in the review of the earlier remake script I didn’t hate Connor using a sniper rifle to give him a brief advantage over the Kurgan, I didn’t mind the deconsecrated church idea either. I do think Highlander can have romance and angst, but it also has to be an action driven film. It doesn't need epic scope as at it's heart it is a personal story of a small group of people. If it does end up resembling what my notions of the Twilight saga are then it may just be the final nail in the coffin for me and Highlander.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:29 a.m. CST
... and then wash her laudry, her dishes and her bathroom. All at the same time. Start working on it, boy!
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:52 a.m. CST
by Johnny Wishbone
You DON"T remake a cult movie and expect it to be any good. The original Highlander's low budget cheesiness, awesome soundtrack and equally awesome cast is what make it such an enjoyable and entertaining film. Any remake will ignore this fact entirely and end up being another turd-fest. Remember The Wicker Man remake? Remember The Psycho remake? Remember The Planet of The Apes remake? Remember The Italian Job remake? Remember The Poseidon Adventure remake? I'm sure there are plenty more but I'd rather not remember them.
Good comments by the guys above. I think HIGHLANDER was a bit daring and different. Pre cgi-fx, and revolutionary (at the time) scene transitions between the time zones.<p> But how much of what's on screen was planned and how much was circumstance is a matter of debate for any cult film, and I think HIGHLANDER is a cult film. I think the fact that it was made by a strange hotchpotch of nationalities and individuals helps too.<p> A 'plain vanilla' remake of HIGHLANDER would be as equally pointless and limp-dicked as those titles johnny wishbone listed above.
Feb. 10, 2011, 4:16 a.m. CST
they are so obsessed with their teen audience they forget that adult salso love to watch movies. If adult attendence is lower then teen, it's because ther's less movies made for adults. And here's the thing: you will spend more time of your life as an adult then as a teen. So why the fuck this obsession with teen market? It's not the adults who should had to turn off their brains to watch a tene oriented move, it's the teens who should smart up to adult level.
Feb. 10, 2011, 4:17 a.m. CST
by DC Films
So i guess Kevin McKidd as Connor won't fit the boyband look they'll be casting for, then..? If they play this this to the Twilight audience the film's totally fucked. <p><p> They'll be pissing in a Glenmorangie bottle and selling it as Single Malt.<p><p> Be nice if she'd been hired to add some of Dexter's darkness, but with a heavy metal-swords twist. But the fact that Justin (F*uck & Furious) is still attached to direct shows that they want the lowest common denominator, meaning she's been hired to rewrite it for the teenies that splash the cash for Twilight and F*ck & Furious.<p><p> = expect it to score furiously on the sucko-metre... <p><p> A shame, cos it coulda been Lord of the Rings great with the heads behind it.
Feb. 10, 2011, 4:26 a.m. CST
On the whole they have more of a disposable income than the majority of adults. When I was a teenager I used to go and see two, sometimes three films a week. Of course I had money from some part time jobs and had very little financial responsibility. Now, I'm an adult with a mortgage, with a second flat to pay for while I'm working in Switzerland, bills coming out of my arse and maybe can afford to see one film a month. Adults have less influence because on the whole they couldn't go to see as much as teenagers.
Feb. 10, 2011, 4:35 a.m. CST
by David Cloverfield
The finale for a centuries old mystical battle (and a fight that will probably decide the fate of the world) is happening in a warehouse and there's nobody to witness it. No bullshit powers, no sorcery just hundreds (and in Kurgan's case thousands) of years of experience in swordfighting. I'm not worried about the screenwriter fucking it up. The suits on the other hand will. The romantic sideplot will become THE MOST IMPORTANT EVENT IN MCLOAD'S LIFE. (If they pull that shit with the same actress playing a mediaval and a modern love interest I'll dramatically scream on a rooftop.)
Feb. 10, 2011, 4:46 a.m. CST
by David Cloverfield
Just start adapting the Dresden books damnit! Leave Highlander alone. (You just know they'll pay someone to make a terrible new version of Princes of the Universe.)
Feb. 10, 2011, 5:26 a.m. CST
Feb. 10, 2011, 5:59 a.m. CST
Francis ford Coppola did that with THE GODFATHER, he turned a pulp novel into a cinematic shackspearean masterpiece. but that's because he's Coppolla, he knows his screenwriting job, he's not Bob Orci. But it'«s hard for even a good screenwriter surpass the awfulness of the original material. I don't think it was possible to turn TWILIGHT into anything better then as it turned out.
Feb. 10, 2011, 6:06 a.m. CST
That movie deserves all the love it gets... and then some. It's also the last i movie i have seen lately, excluding SOLOMON KANE, where the main character truly deserved to be called a badass.
Feb. 10, 2011, 6:35 a.m. CST
It'll be renamed 'Highlights. With Gerard Butler as Ramirez and James McAvoy as Conner. They could be great, but the movie will most likely be crap. Just not enough smart people at the top in Hollywood. Mostly badly educated, unread, regurgitating producer simpletons.
Feb. 10, 2011, 7:32 a.m. CST
Feb. 10, 2011, 7:58 a.m. CST
I feel sad for young people having to watch badly rehashed stuff from my youth. So many creative people with good stories and fresh skills don't get a chance
Feb. 10, 2011, 8:09 a.m. CST
Great they going to take something awesome and make it suck. Kinda like the remakes of Bad News Bears and The Longest Yard.
Feb. 10, 2011, 8:48 a.m. CST
I guess to make it in hollywood you just need to be an air headed talentless hack because being a true artist doesn't count for shit in this stupid fucking world anymore.
Feb. 10, 2011, 8:55 a.m. CST
I'm sorry, but am I the only one who is annoyed when people say stuff like this? Wouldn't any story and movie "done right" be a good movie? If it was done right then it is good. If done wrong then it was bad.
Feb. 10, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST
...now I'm curious about Refn's PUSHER trilogy.
Feb. 10, 2011, 9:17 a.m. CST
What part of "There can be only one" do this idiots not understand?
Feb. 10, 2011, 9:22 a.m. CST
The states got screwed out of these two treasures on blu-ray for some reason. I don't even see a release date. Instead we get shit like Season of the Witch.
Feb. 10, 2011, 9:28 a.m. CST
Spider-Twink, X-Twinks, Supertwink, now Twinklander? Stephanie Meyers is officially the worst thing that has ever happened to art, literature, and film since the dawn of time.
Feb. 10, 2011, 9:35 a.m. CST
Seriously, she's like the genesis of the Emo Vampire movement.
Feb. 10, 2011, 9:55 a.m. CST
I would have jumped at the chance to make this, I think this time I would have the good and evil sides eventually teaming up against each other for one last battle in Central Park.
Feb. 10, 2011, 10 a.m. CST
Somehow we're supposed to *like* a bunch of whiny, pale, pretty boy sociopaths in the Vampire Chronicles. Did Interview with a Vampire or the Vampire Lestat even have a plot? Twilight was nothing more than female wish fulfillment fantasy, and I suppose Anne Rice's stories were also--if you're a bat shit crazy female that is.
How about Thomas Jane as Conner :)
Feb. 10, 2011, 10:07 a.m. CST
...uh, you mean as opposed to what Superman, Batman, Spider Man, Green Lantern, X-Men, etc...are for boys? Your diagnosis of TWILIGHT is exactly right, but if you like any of the above (and countless other favorites around here), you'd do well to get off your high horse. Personally, I love Conan, but I'm well aware that it's nothing more than a male wish fulfillment fantasy.
Feb. 10, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST
the old gal created a solid vampire mythology that supported a host of interesting characters and story-lines. She offered an interesting take on the reality of being eternal. Great strength <---> possible madness Eternal human beauty <---> gradual loss of humanity They didn't sparkle, and their dicks didn't work. Stephenanie Meyer's characters reveal her to be a vapid cow who couldn't fathom the notion of love without a stiff one in her cunny. Anne Rice's vampires revealed that the truest connections occurred not with the body...but with the mind.
Feb. 10, 2011, 10:42 a.m. CST
So glad I'm not a Highlander fan! So, gay!
Feb. 10, 2011, 10:43 a.m. CST
Great strength ---- possible madness Eternal human beauty ---- gradual loss of humanity
Feb. 10, 2011, 10:47 a.m. CST
by Jeremy Davis
I have no rival no one can be my equal!
Feb. 10, 2011, 10:50 a.m. CST
by Jeremy Davis
Feb. 10, 2011, 10:59 a.m. CST
...and I don't care if someone above me has already made this joke or something similar... *heavy sigh*
Feb. 10, 2011, 11 a.m. CST
Twinklight is an exceptionally AWFUL one. I mean, it's literally the WORST book I ever read. Yes, I read the first one because I felt I had too just to see... and, OH MY GOD, it is SO terrible it defies the imagination. It's literally 300 pages of two totally unlikable characters (a gay man and his beard) telling each other how much they love each other, and how totally awesome they each are, interspersed with occasional scenes of the aforementioned twink literally twinkling in the sun. The entire book. That's it. It's ASTOUNDINGLY awful. At least the other Wish Fulfillment fantasies mentioned are *good* and have something interesting to say on the level of "modern pop-myth."
Feb. 10, 2011, 11:01 a.m. CST
I'd agree with your list of useless remakes, save for one: The Italian Job. That was a lot of fun, with a great cast, totally hamming it up. "I don't DO DOGS."
Feb. 10, 2011, 11:07 a.m. CST
Rosenberg only had Stephanie Meyers' trite crap to work with. I'm not sayin' she'll do a good job, but it may not be fair to judge her based on what she wrote for Twilight. I mean, if somebody had to adapt a screenplay from The Turner Diaries, they're not necessarily a neo Nazi.
Feb. 10, 2011, 11:15 a.m. CST
by DC Films
...As Remirez, The Kurgan, and Connor... <p><p> ...In my dreams! <p><p> With Justin (ramp it all up in the Avid) Lin, we'll Have Paul (pretty-boy) Walker as Connor, and Vin Diesle & Dwayne Johnson flipping over who plays Ramirez & Kurgan...<p><p> So long as Moritz Producing we'll have Justin Lin Directing... And so long as he's directing, well, don't expect anything worth the ticket price...
Feb. 10, 2011, 11:18 a.m. CST
by Damned if I can login
Clancy Brown - spot on perfect. Others may attempt the role, but they would only be pale immitations.
Fucking atrocity. I'd rather attempt to watch the piece of shit known as 'Highlander - The Source' again than a Highlander movie that was written by someone who had any connection to the craptastic Twilight franchise.
Feb. 10, 2011, 11:35 a.m. CST
...I haven't read the books or seen the movies, but things that catch on the way TWILIGHT originally did (without a big marketing push) catch of for a reason. Personally, I don't get really get most super heroes, (I like my male wish fulfillment to involve swords and stuff) but they obviously strike a cord with a lot of people. I read an article a while back by a very intelligent woman talking about why TWILIGHT appeals so strongly to girls of a certain age...especially in the current sexual climate. I'm getting too serious here, but as the dad of a little girl, it was very enlightening...and a little sad.
Feb. 10, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST
This was Mulcahy's first feature and he made some damn good actor choices in my opinion. Yes it was done on a shoe string budget, but I love several of the the transitional scenes he does within the film. And he was exploring his filming at the time. Nowadays, it's like film scene. Cut to black. film another scene. we'll cut with no transition. The music was also just scored right as well with Queen. Unfortunately Christopher Lambert has such a scratchy voice sometimes you couldn't quite understand him. lol. How you pull off a cult classic of Highlander as a reboot is difficult imo with regards to a movie. Unless you're going to delve into more backstory involving the Kurgan and Conner Macleod. The origination of the Quickening would also be interesting which they have tried to explain before unsuccessfully with Highlander 2. What a god awful mess that was.
Feb. 10, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST
you said "..uh, you mean as opposed to what Superman, Batman, Spider Man, Green Lantern, X-Men, etc...are for boys? Your diagnosis of TWILIGHT is exactly right, but if you like any of the above (and countless other favorites around here), you'd do well to get off your high horse." Then you followed that by sniffing pseudo haughtily "Personally, I don't get really get most super heroes, (I like my male wish fulfillment to involve swords and stuff) but they obviously strike a cord with a lot of people." and defending twilight for your imaginary daughter, yeah right - like i have said from beginning ,subby - that is you, are queer, and this proves it
Feb. 10, 2011, noon CST
I agree, things do catch on for a reason -- in this case (like Jersey Shore, American Idol, et al), it caught on because it's *really*, *REALLY* dumb. I defy you to read it and not reach the same conclusion. Remember Buffy? Remember how Whedon and crew managed to turn a similarly silly premise into a surprisingly insightful comment on adolescent relationships and sexuality? TWILIGHT isn't that. At all. TWILIGHT is basically a Harlequin romance for tweens and their mother's in bad marriages. And it goes no further than that. I have a pretty high tolerance for stuff like this, and I thought I would like it based on the raves I heard, from people I *thought* were intelligent... only to find out that not only were they wrong, but pretty dumb as well.
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST
Wish fulfillment is wish fulfillment...makes no difference if it involves swords, capes and tights...or sparkling vampires. I like to read Robert E. Howard stories from time to time. He isn't a good writer, but at his best he manages to capture a particular adolescent power-wish fever dream better than most pulp writers. Regardless, I don't think a Conan fan like me gets to piss on girls who like TWILIGHT. Glass houses, etc...etc... I will piss on you, though...cause I know that's how you like it.
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:16 p.m. CST
... because at that time he didn't knew how to speak english, and all his lines were said PHONETICALLY. He was learning english as he was shooting the movie.
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:21 p.m. CST
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:24 p.m. CST
you talked about people being on high horses because they don't like twilight, yet in very next post you sniffed mightily how you dont' like or get superheroes - sitting a bit high up on that horse's ass. you horse's ass.
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST
and what is more geek than superheroes? you can't then sniff mightily that you don't like or get superheroes - implying that people who do - which i would guess is the overwhelming majority of this site, are somehow less worthy than thise who dont. take that high happy horseshit elsewhere you horses ass
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST
what i mean is that every frakkin remake feels it has to explain shit. so highlander 2, which only exists to spoil every mystery of highlander, ruined the series. the problem is, you can't capture the sense of frustration macleod faced not knowing what he was, how he got there, etc. etc. you can't recreate connery's hair, either. thus, you're left recreating back story. bad idea.
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:33 p.m. CST
By saying that I take my wish fulfillment with swords instead of capes I was saying that I drink Coke instead of Pepsi. I might like a slightly different brand, but I too crave carbonated cola beverages. I think any kind of spectacular insult would be overkill here. You are stupid. It's that simple.
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:37 p.m. CST
Just because a screenwriter has written a certain type of film/genre in the past, doesn't mean that they're going to bring all of that to another assignment. Plenty of great screenwriters that are critically acclaimed have also written shit too. Look at Akiva Goldsman... he wrote Batman and Robin for fuck's sake. But he also wrote great adaptations of The Client and A Time to Kill (among others). Just because this writer wrote the teen angst TWILIGHT flicks, doesn't mean she's going to bring the same characters and elements with her. Do you also know that she's a former writer and producer of DEXTER? Why don't you put that in your story above? That's a gritty frickin show. I understand we live in a cynical world, but damn, understand the film industry a little.
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST
you have a history of talking down to the comic book geeks here, so bubbeh, you are a horses ass who has no right to say that other are on a high horse - and coke aint pepsi, just like a pen knife aint a sword. as for the spectacular insult (snort) - well your usual shit shmear just is not funny or spectacular, but you keep on chucking anyway. im waiting go ahead, be as spectacular as you can be bubbeh - then it's my turn my guess is you will do what you always do, say something pseudo haughty -pretending you are 'above the insult retort', when in reality you are shitting your pants at being called names on a an anonymous website (bitch) then disappear until you think I am gone for the day
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:53 p.m. CST
Aren't you asking too much of Nordling? Where do Harry find this losers, anyway? Are this clowns getting payed? Harry should hire me, at least i actually have genuine love for cinema and i do try to know stuff. If all i ever did was working for aICN, i would had mroe then spare time to research. Is the pay good, Harry? And no, i'll not sell out to Jar Jar Abrams.
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:56 p.m. CST
I've given up trying to convince you that we aren't the same person, but he must have really tweaked your scrotum to have you hounding me on a case of mistaken identity all this time. I'm genuinely curious.
Feb. 10, 2011, 12:58 p.m. CST
...it would be good for business, too. Can you imagine the talkbacks? TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.
Fuck, must be kobe's time of the month again?<p> Once again, busting in a tb to insult people and add nothing to the chat.<p> And in a HIGHLANDER tb no less - that's sacrilege...<p> "HOLY GROUND HIGHWANKER! Remember what your care assistant taught you."<p> Nuns. No sense of humor.
Feb. 10, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST
you and all your sock puppets are lying pieces of holier than thou, thin skinned, unfunny, 24/7 posting, worthless, gasasses
Feb. 10, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST
...speaking of holy ground, is everything well in the dojo?
Feb. 10, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST
Feb. 10, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST
otherwise known as the most needy attention whore, creepy online stalker of virtual female handles because he has no game with real females, that the world has ever seen. howya doin asslip?
Feb. 10, 2011, 1:16 p.m. CST
boy, that showed me what is what, you really gave me the old what for! yessir boy! put me in my place. no doubt about it. u worthless chickenshit bitch
Feb. 10, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST
Those "Iron Man" writers must have really dropped the fucking ball - seriously. When I found out they were doing Highlander i went and looked them up and found out THEY HAD ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH IRON MAN. The first writing team on IM only took the comic and put it in screenplay form, all of the details and good stuff (if there was any good stuff in that movie) was later added by the second team. That's why you never saw the first guys in interviews. And now they've hired a fucking girl to write a movie about dudes battling to be "the one". The world has been fagged.
Feb. 10, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST
TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION indeed. Also, can you imagine the hits this site would get everytime i would write a negative review of an Abrams or Bay's movies? The whole geeks in here would post furiously calling me a motherfucker... Harry would had never had so many hits in the whole history of his site. Hell, i already cause quite many hits for the site with the people's responses to by constant bashing of Abrams. Kaching!
Feb. 10, 2011, 1:22 p.m. CST
I love movies like this...and I have to watch as everything awesome my dad has shown me on dvd...is remade...
Feb. 10, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST
It's not a masterpiece by any stretch. It's a simple movie with an interesting premise played to the max, done with style and with actros who were convincing in their roles... even if they were a scot playing spanish and a frenchmen playing a scot. Anyway, still the movie has a kind of magic to it that is just engaging and appealing. It was unique. And it has one of the top best villains i ever seen in a movie in the shape of Clancy Brown's THE KURGAN. Hell, this movie made me a big fan of Clancy Brown. The man steals the show, even from Sean Connery, no small feat. Ifind it hard not to like HIGHLANDER. It's simple but not simplistic, it's stylish without sacrificing story for mere flashy visuals, it has an interesting rpemise and plays it out to the hilt in a running time of 110 minutes. It's good proper fun, always willing to provide the fun but not affraid to go dramatic when it needs. More importantly, it feels like an honest movie. And that goes a long way.
Feb. 10, 2011, 1:32 p.m. CST
get a bunch of your Facebook friends together and petition Hollywood to create original content instead of all these lazy retreads. The Choppah'd sign the petition.
Feb. 10, 2011, 1:50 p.m. CST
Brilliant parody of a trollish poster here! Well done! You ARE kidding, right?
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST
Just because you think all is peaches. Take a look back, shit - even in the 80's things weren't this fucking fluffy. All movies are made now with fucking kids in mind, and if it's not kids they factor women into a movie that most chics would never see. I'm sure you're too young to remember when the first Highlander came out - but any girl in the audience was there because her boyfriend pulled her in - probably because she forced him to see About Last Night or some shit. There are no men movies today, everything is deballed and if the girl who writes twilight penning Highlander doesn't do anything for you - you're a poof.
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:16 p.m. CST
Do you really still believe that I, Flickapoo and Subtitle_Off are really the same person? Subtitles_Off is hardly ever on here and I would never pick a handle suck as "Flickapoo". But, I second Flickapoo's question: Why do you hate Subtitles_Off so much? I remember, you guys had it out long ago, but he basically backed off and left AICN for the most part.
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST
I blame Judd Apatow!
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:23 p.m. CST
What was wrong with the original Highlander? I've always thought it was quite good, and can't really imagine how a remake or bigger budget would make it any better. In fact, I'd be STUNNED if someone remade it today and the remake was better, or even as good as, the first. Also, how did the original have a lack of scale? It was a fairly personal story about Connor and his long life. What, do we need to see hundreds of Immortals battling it out onscreen at once with lighting exploding everywhere like some cut scene from Attack of the Clones for it to be "truly epic"?
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:28 p.m. CST
I don't speak for anyone else, but I think perhaps the reason hiring the Twilight writer is bad for Highlander is because the studio execs making the decisions are indeed hiring because they want more of the same from the writer. Meaning they are hoping to make Highlander into a Twilight-esque movie regardless of writer, and this is a sign of it.
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST
a writer is incapable of writing something very different. It's not like she's the actual author of the twilight novels. But, Highlander the movie was good because of Connery and Clancy Brown. Christopher Lambert is a horrible actor and so they have to improve on him, as the TV actor was even a big step up.
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:33 p.m. CST
You can bet the reason they want a remake is because they want to reinvigorate the Highlander franchise as a cash cow. And they know part of the problem with the old version is that the original film told a complete story, with no maneuvering room for sequels (not good sequels, at least.) So this remake will undoubtedly be left wide open for sequels, with the first movie being unsatisfying and incomplete in a way the original was not. In short, ruining it so they can more easily make a buck on followup movies. Say what you want about the first, but it had heart and was a complete story... not a cash grab attempt by a soulless studio wanting to milk a brand name they own.
Hell - yeah! I remember the 80's, I went to see Highlander and my girlfriend at the time only came because I pulled her in...by the hair. She had made me go see Pretty in Pink - and two of those words I don't even know what they are to this day. No idea where she is now - some woman's refuge I think. Kids only had three films a year back then - some Amblin' thing, some film about a puppy saving Christmas and some film about Herbie going bananas in Monte Carlo. And you know what? The little fuckers were happy with that. They did only get six hours a year off from being beaten to harden them up so getting some colours and noises and shit in their down time was a treat. But even the 80's were shit compared to the 70's. Then you had to get a testosterone shot just to survive the films. I remember being 7 and going to see Papillon, that was harrowing but good for me. Seein' guys locked away on an island. In the 70's if a poof went to see a film they would die of erection trauma as all the manliness would confuse and over stimulate them to the point where they'd get so aroused that they'd dessicate, apart from their engorged penis and that would just stand their hissing in terror before fucking off and hiding in the cavity wall insulation. Where d'you think Ridley Scott got the idea for Alien? Then of course Kathryn Bigelow got free from whatever institution she was kept in and that's where it all started going faggy and wrong. Women don't know action. How can they? They just aren't wired that way - their brains (HAH) are far too busy being pre-occupied with ponies, housework and the practise of felattio to know one end of a gun from the other. And you have one writing Highlander? Highlander was one of the most manly films of all time - apart from the camp - and if a chick even tries to write a Highlander script she'll become a lesbian and then a serial killer. It won't be her fault. The only guy film since Die Hard has been The Expendables and even that was gay because in the 70's and 80's guys would never see being expendable as an option. Should have been called the 'Nevergonnalose Guys'. Christ what's next? A kid writing an Exorcist remake? A Labrador writing Cobra 2?
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST
You are a wise, wise talkbacker!
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST
They solved the problem of the ending in the original film. They gave it a good one. You speak as if the only way a movie can be good is if it goes on and on and gives us several sequels.
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST
Rambo, Expendables, Crank 1 and 2 (hell, just about every Statham movie), The Fast and The Furious franchise... shall I go on? There's plenty of men movies around... And let me be clear: I have no problem with women writing action movies. I don't even have a problem with this female writer. I'm pretty sure Twilight movies suck because of the source material. But I do have a problem with anyone, male or female, doing this reboot. Also: About Last Night fucking rocked! James Belushi's best movie, naked Demi Moore, come on, man!
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:56 p.m. CST
to the Highlander remake? I remember hearing something about that a couple years ago. Something along the lines of the Immortals will use guns and other types of weapons in place of or in addition to swords and hand to hand combat. That of course sounds extremely off, as if they didn't understand the source material at all. Maybe the addition of guns to Highlander will not happen now that they have a different writer working on it. Either way, the remakes are getting ridiculous. I wonder how close we are to actually getting that George Lucas Singing in the Rain w/Star Wars mash up, but this time it won't be a parody, it will be for real.
Feb. 10, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST
FAST AND THE FURIOUS movies are manly movies? Are you kidding? Those are some of the most in-the-closet movie i ever seen in my life. The only way those movies cannot be more homoerotic is because TOP GUN exists. And Katheryn Bigelow can do action, much better then such on-the-closet nancy boys like Mickey Bay, Jar Jar Abrams, Renny Harlin and all those girly cunts like them.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:05 p.m. CST
...maybe that's why I like them alittle too much... [looks side-to-side nervously] They are not "manly" movies, but they are MAN movies: specifically targeted to men.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST
amazing scenery in this little gem from the 80s.and it did have a battle between Scottish clans.the sequel increased the scale for sure,it even had alien planets but we all know how that movie turned out... anyway the Highlander franchise was FUBAR from the first sequel,the series was good and succeeded to establish a better movie universe whereas the sequels failed miserably,they milked it to the death with comics,japanimes and cartoons so a remake even if it is in the Twilight style,wouldnt do any further damage in an already dead and buried franchise. so i say bring it on.the original movie will always remain a classic.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:10 p.m. CST
....kicks the shit out of most "action" directors.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:12 p.m. CST
It's a crime to feel any different than what tv tells you. Women and Queer Eye wear your nuts as necklaces.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:13 p.m. CST
1) Clancy Brown is awesome, as many here have been saying. He should be in more shows/films. I could see him fitting into something Sons of Anarchy as a cop or a biker. 2) With a Highlander remake looming, that means we can't be far off from remakes of all the other really well known and loved films of the 80's: The Terminator, Robocop, Jaws, Rambo, Big Trouble in Little China, Gremlins, Goonies, etc. Robocop almost happened. The Terminator franchise is almost dead, so I wouldn't be surprised if they just went back to the first film and do a reboot. Jaws probably has a good chance of getting rebooted, especially if the Piranha 3D sequel does well. They'll see it as a great 3D vehicle, and one with a much stronger pedigree than the Piranha films. Goonies remake. No. Can't remake it. It just won't work. Rambo remake. In the words of Will Smith, "Hell Naaawwwwwhhhhhhhh!!!!!!" Gremlins could work because the Gremlins are the stars, not the humans (although Phoebe Cates was certainly a highlight), but only if they keep the same basic Mogwai/Gremlin design and don't go overboard with digital effects. About the only genre film of the 80's or 90's I'd like to see remade is Starship Troopers. This is only because, while I enjoyed Paul Verhoeven's film, it is a property that could be redone in a more serious manner whilst also incorporating elements from the novel that weren't in the current films.
Asi, great summation of why HIGHLANDER rocks!<p> Flicka, all is well in the Dojo - life is beautiful!<p> catletuce, you're right, this is a financial move, and that's why the end result will probably be awfuk.<p> Kobe, take your meds, and for christ sake stop shitting in your pants - your care assistants are on minimum wage and they didn't sign up for that.<p> Cushing, nice post.<p> writeforthedit, watching chiselled men kill other chiselled men isn't gay. It's a long standing tradition since ancient times. And we know that the greeks and romans fellas were straight as they come!
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:20 p.m. CST
He was in CARNIVALE, where he played the main antagonist, and he played a marvelous memorable villain. and you fucking cunts din0't watched it, so the series died an early death due to poor audiences. Fuck you all, you fucking cunts, who didn't watched CARNIVALE and let it get canceled. Fuck you very much.
Lv_426, didnt mean to leave you out! Yes Clancy Brown is the man (also in STARSHIP TROOPERS incidentally)..<p> I watched Walter Hill's 80's actioner EXTREME PREJUDICE for the first time a couple of nights ago and was delighted to see Clancy Brown in that one too.<p> Think he was also in that DELIVERANCE style flick with Sidney Poitier but the title escapes me.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:23 p.m. CST
The book as it is is fascist beyond belief. a movie made very faithful to the book would be the most fascist film since Leni Riefensthal' TRYUMPH OF THE WILL. Or PEARL HARBOR.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST
...your mention of chiseled men killing other chiseled men, um... made me thirsty... Wait, what were we talking about again? Oh yeah, fuck this Highlander remake for pussies and stuff!
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST
SHOOT TO KILL.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:36 p.m. CST
I personally loathe comic book movies. For one thing, they're "safe." You will never watch a comic book movie and genuinely fear for any of the key characters. PG-rated boredom. It would be the same sort of wish fulfillment of having sex with a super model with the lights out, she has to wear an eskimo outfit, and you have to wear a 1 inch thick condom. Now, I make the argument that Conan is not wish fulfillment. Do you really want Conan's life? To have your parents murdered before your eyes, get kidnapped, forced to turn a wheel while all the other kids from your village drop like flies, get thrown in a ring to fight death matches, get set loose to be chased by wolves, get crucified on the Tree of Woe, get the crap beat out of you in a quest for vengeance, and get your girlfriend killed by a snake arrow. You get revenge, ultimately, but it's a bitter-sweet victory. That is NOT wish fulfillment. Conan had a greater depth than just to fulfill your sword and sorcery fantasy. Wish fulfillment is something like Scorpion King, or Twilight. Twilight is wish fulfillment because Bella gets two different guys fighting over her, both of whom have magical powers. One guy's fucking ripped with chiseled abs and lets her ride his motorcycle (and we know what motorcycles do for women), the other guy is for all intents and purpose Superman without any weaknesses. Young, fast, sexy, sunlight makes him sparkle instead of incinerating him, and fucking immortal. Bella gets to lead one guy around by the dick, and then marries the other one and becomes a sparkly fagpire too. THAT is wish fulfillment.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:37 p.m. CST
he blessed her with his ingenuity when he ejaculated on her butt-cheeks.true story.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:39 p.m. CST
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:41 p.m. CST
accused by some film critics for promoting fascism through his ST movie.the idiots couldnt realize that in reality he was parodying fascism and through it America itself.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST
Well, what I was getting at is that Verhoeven's Troopers was a satire, so why not take the basic premise and some of the hardware from the book, and do a non-satirical take on it. Who knows how it would end up, as it depends on which writers and filmmakers get to adapt it. It is too bad Cameron didn't do an Aliens sequel that basically used Starship Troopers idea of soldiers in power armor fighting bugs on various planets and Earth, and just grafted it into the Aliens universe. Remember, in the briefing scene in Aliens the marines wonder if the current mission is just gonna be another bug hunt? I hear that was Cameron intentionally referencing that Starship Troopers and Aliens were in the same fictional universe. I do like Verhoeven's version though. Robocop, Total Recall, and Starship Troopers kinda makes up a strange but awesome sci-fi trilogy. They almost have the same over-aching theme coursing through them all, whilst also each having their own themes contained in each individual film as well.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:47 p.m. CST
Just a big fucking gay score. Something that gives the sensation of being bummed like a freight train in a prison full of gays who bum each other in the shower and shit. Ah-ha! And shit! That would make this thing a decent remake. They can lose the beheadings and blood and make this a gooey crappy 'Twilight' piece-of-shit for the teens to cream themselves over just as long as they're creaming themselves to this big fucking gay score. Anyways, yeah.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:47 p.m. CST
they already did.its called ALIENS.with a nickname like yours,you should already know that.HA.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:49 p.m. CST
yeah, I guess I meant if you want the story to continue, just having him get the prize doesn't work. But even so, even as a stand-alone, the ending still feels unsatisfying. So he gets the prize - so what? What does the prize really even mean? ok, he gets to age. But so do we all. What's unique about that? I think what it comes down to is the story tends to put so much emphasis on the struggle, there's no clear sense of what winning actually means and why we should care. I guess they attempted to deal with that in the Source, but holy shit, I'd rather stick needles in my eyes than watch that horrible film again. And I'm usually pretty forgiving of genre films. I'd rather just imagine it never happened. No, just like in life, the struggle always continues, which is why just seeing a guy "win" everything ultimately feels flat to me. Maybe that's why Angel's 'let's get to work' line at the end of Angel, seemed right, despite the fact we knew that story would have continued if the show hadn't been canceled. Maybe if winning the prize turns out to be not what it's cracked up to be - that winning brings along it's own problems, or perhaps opens up a new vista, a new journey. Heck, even films that deal with a kind of afterlife have that element to it. So I would want winning the prize to mean something.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:50 p.m. CST
thats correct.if Cameron had made A3 and was set on Earth with an aliens infestation,i am sure we would have gotten the nearest thing to a perfect ST movie adaptation.but alas that was never meant to be..sigh..
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST
I don't know if that last word was a typo or not, but I love it. "Man, that was awfuk!" I'm going to start using that in daily conversation.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:52 p.m. CST
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST
I just wanted to comment about Twilight being wish fulfillment for girls. Does a typical girl really want some obsessive, controlling stalker who's a douchebag to all her friends? Does she really want to be a simpering, passive object of desire for men to fight over, rather than actually taking charge of her own destiny? If so, teenage girls are in a bad state. When my daughter's old enough, we're so watching Buffy together and not Twilight.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:54 p.m. CST
...as a fan, I'd still argue that it's wish fulfillment, and I don't mean that in a bad way. I don't think "wish fulfillment" has to mean that you'd really want his life, but Conan lets you vicariously be a badass who can talk shit to anybody because he can always back it up. Even his losses (you mention his parents) have an appealing side...they lave him free to roam wherever he wants. He doesn't have to give a shit about anybody...he take whatever (and whomever) he wants. He can be a dick to women and it doesn't matter in the long run, because ultimately they can't resist his manly manliness... If that isn't adolescent male wish fulfillment, I don't know what is. Funny, I got an urge to reread all the Conan stories during the first year after my kid was born. Probably a way to blow off a little steam in that time of increased responsibility and domesticity.
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:54 p.m. CST
can't believe I actually confused it's and its.
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Feb. 10, 2011, 3:56 p.m. CST
omniscient.he knew everything and could connect with the mind of every person in the planet.thats why Ramirez at some point tells to McCleod that Kurgan must not win the Prize otherwise the human race would enter an age of darkness. the Game between the immortals was not only about them but its outcome would affect immensely the human race as well. ofc then HL2 came out and fucked everything up...
Feb. 10, 2011, 3:59 p.m. CST
ever heard of Gwen Stacy? or Jason Todd? Would you really want Bruce Banner's life, or Matt Murdock's? or Bruce Wayne's? I think a really good superhero story has a wish fulfillment element, but it's also part tragedy. Sometimes you do just want see Superman triumph. But that's not the only kind of superhero story there is. And let's be clear about the difference between a superhero film and the vague term "comic book movies" - could also include Road to Perdition and History of Violence. Unless you mean movies made in the style of comic books.
Feb. 10, 2011, 4:07 p.m. CST
ok, but what did he do with that gift? Go to the opera? blot out the sun? I really think ultimately the prize is a mcguffin and it needs to mean something or have real consequences. I guess when I think about it if the Matrix had been a stand-alone film (if only), then that moment where Neo "transcends" and sees the Matrix and gains that ultimate power, that felt satisfying to me as I was watching it. So I guess, we need a prize that has a result we can identify with as viewers. Something that allows us to see from McLeod's perspective (not necessarily literally).
Feb. 10, 2011, 4:09 p.m. CST
...I haven't read any of the books [shudder], but she makes an interesting argument. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/12/what-girls-want/7161/ Again, my devil's advocate argument wasn't that TWILIGHT is good, or that we should like it...just that it probably does for 14 year old girls exactly what Conan, or G.I. Joe, or The Hulk do for us.
edit, hehe... 'awfuk' was a typo but it kinda works doesn't it! Monkeys and typewriters...<p> Flicka, thanks for the title - someday soon i'm going to have to do a Clancy Brown season.. um month.. um day!
Feb. 10, 2011, 4:10 p.m. CST
still feels a bit vague. So we'll enter darkness because people will connect with an evil mind? It's really not clear. Maybe we could see the consequences of someone bad getting the prize, perhaps by cheating, and somehow have it so the hero can still take it from him after a huge struggle.
Feb. 10, 2011, 4:15 p.m. CST
It's been a while since I've seen HIGHLANDER. I thought the prize was that you become a normal human...able to age and love like everybody else. I thought that was the twist...that immortality isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Feb. 10, 2011, 4:20 p.m. CST
disqualifies her from working on anything with testosterone for life. Just sayin...twilight is that lame Dexter or no Dexter.
Feb. 10, 2011, 4:23 p.m. CST
interesting article, and I noticed how Buffy (the show) was set up similarly to that genre - starting with the results of a divorce and a move to the burbs. But that dynamic in which Bella is constantly depending on Edward for rescue IS regressive. Flanagan compares it to Jane Eyre and old-school romance, and she seems to finds feminism cynical. But I sure hope my daughter doesn't grow up to value the kind of one-sided power dynamic in the Edward/Bella relationship, in which she's just at the mercy of his whims and his disdain. In Wuthering Heights, Heathcliff is supposed to be a bastard. That story is a tragedy. But nowadays, people see him (and his type) as sexy, rather than a self-centered bastard who treats Catherine like shit. I hope that smart girls know the difference between the values of Twilight and reality.
Feb. 10, 2011, 4:51 p.m. CST
and is a girls wish fullfilment really to be a dumb mopey bint who irresponsibly leads guys around by the dick while she just cant decide for the princess life of her what she wants when it comes down to it!? HELL NO.
Feb. 10, 2011, 4:55 p.m. CST
is how vague everything is. People just were born with these amazing abilities, they have no idea why, but they feel drawn to others with the same abilities, and have the urge to lop each others' fucking heads off, with the goal being some mystical "Prize". They don't know who made them like that, why it happened, it just IS. This new one will probably feel the need to create a lengthy backstory regarding gods, a magic crystal, etc. The cool thing about the magic in Highlander is that it is so remote and unexplained. THAT is what makes the first one such an intriguing movie.
Feb. 10, 2011, 5:27 p.m. CST
...I have no comment on the stories themselves, although if I had a boy, I'd let him read Conan...but certainly wouldn't want him to grow up to be like him. The author got my attention with "stirred something in me so long forgotten that I felt embarrassed by it. Reading the book, I sometimes experienced what I imagine long-married men must feel when they get an unexpected glimpse at pornography: slingshot back to a world of sensation that, through sheer force of will and dutiful acceptance of life’s fortunes, I thought I had subdued." Well said...although I think she's giving men too much credit...ha!
Feb. 10, 2011, 5:28 p.m. CST
Feb. 10, 2011, 5:57 p.m. CST
Totally agree. "This new one will probably feel the need to create a lengthy backstory regarding gods, a magic crystal, etc." Yup. Some pointless shit or other. I like movies that don't try to explain a goddamn thing. Like "Tremors". Why are these things out in the middle of the desert? Why knows? Who cares? Idle character speculation is fine (Ramirez, Val and Earl all indulge in this) but you simply don't need to flesh everything out for the viewer. It's often cooler if you don't.
Feb. 10, 2011, 6:20 p.m. CST
It's a political novel that paints a picture of a world that's a military oligarchy, but that doesn't by itself make it fascistic. Those who do military service get the vote - and pretty much anyone is eligible - but there isn't a one-party state. There are clearly areas of overlap, but I'm not convinced that the world of ST (the book) is fascist.
Feb. 10, 2011, 6:30 p.m. CST
"This was Mulcahy's first feature and he made some damn good actor choices in my opinion." No, Mulcahy's first feature was Razorback. It was on the strength of that that Davis and Panzer sought him out. Neither Connor nor Brenda were first choice casting. The role of Connor was originally offered to Kurt Russell, but Goldie Hawn persuaded him against taking it. The role of Brenda was offered to Catherine Mary Stewart (from "The Last Starfighter") but she became unavailable later. (She probably would have made a better Brenda than Roxanne Hart, who didn't really suit the role imo.)
Feb. 10, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST
...clearly no-one involved with this idea, 'cause there's a very good chance they will be slaughtered by a massive fan of the original (i.e ME). My wife (it was her fave film when we met) & I loved the original so much our daughter would've been called Connor if she had a penis. The original Highlander was brilliant, great cast, great music, great locations (especially Glencoe, but given how the UK government has fucked up tax breaks for movies any remake would probably not feature the real Scotland at all...cunts) and some unforgettable lines... "You talk funny Nash, where you from?" "Lats uv deefrent playses" Can't somebody just go back and re-do the FX from the original ala George Lucas (without overdoing it and ruining it like George Lucas)? I just can't imagine any other actors playing those roles. Well maybe (as suggested above) Thomas Jane as Connor MacLeod...he is the spit of Chris Lambert... I can't believe the hate for the original on here. Some people are twats, but then there are talkbackers...
Feb. 10, 2011, 10:44 p.m. CST
Feb. 10, 2011, 11:16 p.m. CST
This was a film that captured my imagination as a kid. Unlike vampires who can turn their friends and family members into vamps also so they can live forever too, Immortals really do have no choice but to lose their loved ones one by one. Not having children was another limiting factor. It could be remade, but it would have to be done right.
Feb. 11, 2011, 12:05 a.m. CST
For all you guys defending this writer because of her work on Dexter... You guys do understand that Dexter is a chick show right? Ever wonder why his sister and his lady boss are so important? Ever notice they never get called on any stupid crap they do?(BTW women hate being judged on their past or called on stuff they did ie accountability) Ever notice all the guys(regulars) on the show are madly in love with their women? Exception of course for Masuka(sp?) 'cause he's a caricature. So she made her rep on a wildly successful movie series for the ladies and a show which would appear at first glance to be for dudes but isn't. I'm guessing I might enjoy the new Highlander but I'm probably not the target demographic she's aiming for...
Feb. 11, 2011, 12:40 a.m. CST
to use his new power to help people around the globe and make the world a better place.really mate have you seen the movie?
Feb. 11, 2011, 12:44 a.m. CST
not exactly.Connor can connect and read the mind of every person in the world and communicate with them.which means he can know everything about everyone.and as we know knowledge is power.Connor has the ultimate power and he can use it to shape the world.it is not that hard to understand how the prize works if u use a bit of common sense...
Feb. 11, 2011, 2:25 a.m. CST
I agree with you, the unexplained mystery behind the immortals is what makes it so cool. The explanations they gave in the second movie were quite unsatisfatory, to say the least. And stole the series of it's kind of magic.
Feb. 11, 2011, 2:37 a.m. CST
Heinlein's Starship Troopers is fascist. He tried to create a benevolent fascism society, as if he said "what if i take the positive elements of fascism and had it governed by honest competent men? Well, it's still fascism and it's still bad. How do i know? I have my own country's history as proof.
Feb. 11, 2011, 2:43 a.m. CST
And it's because the prize is the sum of all of mankind's knowledge and also makes the winner connected to every person in the planet, that the whole reason of the immortals fighting was a trial by sword. In a trial by swword, the merit and honesty of a person would be determined by a sword duel, sometimes to the death. Regarding the prize, only the most noble and pure, who woudl prove hisd worth and merit through a centuries long trial by word would he deemed worthy. Reember, the prize started a long time ago and all the immortals are centuries old fellows, so allof them had this medieval mentality of showing their worth through duelling. Somethign tells me that had the Kurgan won, he wouldn't get the prize. He would probably blown up by the angles/demons who gave the prize to Conner in the end. Had the Kurgan won, it would al start over again. And who knows? If Conner dies, maybe the whole prize thing starts again.
Feb. 11, 2011, 7:23 a.m. CST
The Prize is to become the internet, basically.
Feb. 11, 2011, 10:50 a.m. CST
Feb. 11, 2011, 11:28 a.m. CST
Please don't be offended if I decide not to take my political pointers from someone who incessantly rants about a Star Trek move. Startship Troopers has always been a highly controversial book, but the Facism angle is something I (and many)have never seen. The fact that you highlight your bias, based on your background, is telling.
Feb. 11, 2011, 11:35 a.m. CST
Feb. 11, 2011, 12:50 p.m. CST
I'm offended because it shows short-sightness from you. Actually, i shouldn't feel offended. Your loss, pal. But it saddens me your short-sightness. It also means you haven't a clue what i have so far about that other movie you mentioned, which i suspect, you are a fan of. You have not seen the fascism angle of STARSHIP TROOPERS? Small wonder you like that Abrams movie you mentioned.
Feb. 11, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST
Dude, you better not know. Really, anything you migth know about the sequel will just hurt. I envy you for never setting eyes on that rubbish movie.
Feb. 11, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST
I wonder if Clancy Brown would be considered too old to reprise his role, 52, not that old these days.One of my fav all time baddies, sometimes people do just fit a role and make it their own. There really aren't many I can think of to play this part,I think Rutger Hauer would be good, but then again age may be a barrier. Mickey Rourke could possibly pull it off also. Maybe a few with Cameo parts. It needs someone that can come across as genuinely menacing..
Feb. 11, 2011, 1:25 p.m. CST
Apparently had a huge falling out with the makers of Highlander (never quite found out what it was about) but it was just after the film or thereabouts and refuses to talk about the movie - or do any DVD Bluray promotional stuff. So if William Panzer was still involved then I doubt he'd be involved. Though I'd go for Ray Stevenson as the Kurgan, I'd go for Kevin McKidd as Connor and Antonio Banderas as Ramirez (I know Connery was a lot older than Lambert in the original but they stop aging when they 'die' at first).
Feb. 11, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST
Because of some unexplained bollocks that the phrase 'it's a kind of magic' somehow managed to explain. And to be honest thank fuck he did because it was only his scenes with Connor that were watchable in the movie.
Feb. 11, 2011, 1:49 p.m. CST
Feb. 11, 2011, 2 p.m. CST
> (I know Connery was a lot older than Lambert in the original but they stop aging when they 'die' at first) Where does this idea come from? It's not in the movie, it's not in the novelization, it's in neither the shooting script nor the original script. Yet it seems to be something that a lot of people believe. Is it posited in the TV series or something? I mean, to believe this, you'd have to believe that Connor stopped aging when he was 18 years old. (He was born in 1518 and the battle between the MacLeods and the Frasers was in 1536.) He's gone four and a half centuries as a teenager? I think not. The novelization also has a chapter on how the Kurgan had his head dashed open by his father when he was only five years old but recovered within hours. He doesn't look five years old to me.
Feb. 11, 2011, 2:04 p.m. CST
Ramirez was able to return in Highlander 2 because Highlander 2 was made by people on crack. Indeed, it's one of the few (only?) cases in franchise history where one chapter has simply been IGNORED by everything that came afterwards. Highlander 3 is made as though it is a direct sequel to Highlander (still doesn't make sense, but nevertheless ignores H2 completely). And the TV series clearly is not based on the premise that immortals are aliens from planet Zeist. Highlander 2 is the single most insane retcon in movie history. But every sequel to Highlander is a retcon of sorts. Even H3, the series and the other movies act as though Connor had not won the prize and become the final living immortal at the end of Highlander, when he clearly HAD done. (We see him receive the Prize, and then he explains to Brenda what it's like for him now that he's won the Prize!) One can only surmise that all these stories are set in alternate continuities.
Feb. 11, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST
I tend to think that the Prize would vary depending on who won it. For MacLeod, because he is a more noble spirit, it's a power that can be used to help humanity. Had the Kurgan prevailed, the Prize would have been different...something that allowed greater exercise of raw, malevolent power.
Feb. 11, 2011, 2:56 p.m. CST
It was, I think, established in the tv series (which I realise is a different thing) but I'm pretty sure there is an episode where a kid acts the victim of other immortals, claiming that he doesn't know why they are after him and Duncan protects him only to find out in the end that the kid is actually one of the oldest immortals there is. When you watch the film Connor doesn't age at all between his death and the New York sequences (which I realise is due to the limitations of actually not filming the scenes almost 50 years later) but they either stop aging or age incredibly slowly
Feb. 11, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST
Well, it's true that Connor looks a little old to have been 18 when riding into battle, but that's the way the math works out. I remember in the book of the movie, Ramirez describes the stopping of aging as being a random "flowering" at some point in their lives. This seems to make more sense, as most people don't die in their twenties or thirties, yet we don't see many old codger immortals around. Of course, if you subscribe to the "fixed at the time of your first death" hypothesis, it could be that: a. Most codger immortals are easy prey for those who have "fixed" at a younger physical age b. Perhaps those who discover that they're immortal deliberately "kill" themselves to fix as optimally as possible.
Feb. 13, 2011, 11:18 a.m. CST
Been a while since I've watched it but...It was my assumption that you only became immortal and thus did not age once the 'Quickening' kicked in,hence why Ramerez sought him out before Victor could.
Feb. 14, 2011, 8:14 p.m. CST
I hear that Warner Brothers has just signed the director/creator of "Yo Gabba Gabba" to do the long anticipated remake of 2010's "Inception"...