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A new adaptation of Stephen King's The Stand coming to a theater near you?!?
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Book was enough.
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. . . first we get to speculate on how badly Opie will fuck up Dark Tower. Now this? I haven't noticed that many of my favorite director's other than Darabont showing any love for Stephen King. The Stand is no Dark Tower but it is long and complex. That's for sure.
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Loved the miniseries. Wouldnt mind seeing a reimagining.
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"The Stand"'s version of Flagg should be played by the same actor who will play him in the Dark Tower, for the sake of continuity...
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I barely made it through the book's 1200 bloated pages.
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Really? I think the mini series was good enough. I don't know if a movie would be better?
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"The last rung on the ladder"
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The reality is that the big screen can't do this book justice. It would need to be an eight hour film or you would have to mega condense it and lose much of the material and character development.
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Angela Bassett for Mother Abagail.
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must've fallen off the wagon and needs some dough for the nose candy
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I just want to see the Venus-heaven storyline and hope to see a bunch of dumb people commit suicide... also, candle wax in uretha!
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I'm Randall Flagg, and I approve of this news. (seriously though, Warner/CBS needs to call up Ron Howard and figure out a way to have Flagg played by the same actor in both this and DT)
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masticators beat me to it.
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would be as a one-season and-out television series. 24 episodes. Do the thing justice. The mini-series was fairly abysmal. Either that, or Lord of the Rings it up. A trilogy of three hour plus films. The idea of doing The Stand as a single feature film is an absolute joke. By the way, masticators has made an excellent point.
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Jan. 31, 2011, 8:43 p.m. CST
Randall Flagg should be played by whoever plays the Man in Black in Dark Tower
by MrEkoLetMeLive
But nothing that cool could ever happen. My life for you!
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is way better than The Stand. It might be a ripoff but it is a way better and more entertaining book by far. <b> Also, Salem's Lot is the best King book. That scared that crap out of little me.
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but too long for a movie.
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Seriously. I'm midway through this one (first time reading it) and it would work so well as a miniseries. A 2-3 hour movie just can't do this material justice. I'd be curious to see what would happen if they do a Part 1/Part 2 (Kill Bill/Harry Potter 7/Twilight 4 kinda thing though) if theatrical is their intention. Release the first part and the 2nd part 3-5 months later.
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for Flagg in both movies? He was great at the whole 'dark seduction' vibe in Lost Boys, I'm sure he'd be even better at it now that he's gotten more grissled.
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Steven directs Stephen.
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mute rob lowe and mentally stunted strong man from "coach." doesnt really scream awesome to me
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Isn't this being done by a different company? Are the shared characters being licensed to both? Is that a thing you can do? I don't remember how much overlap there is but I sure as hell know we're getting a lot of Randall Flagg.
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and it was definitely the 'A' list of its time. Ed Harris in a small, supporting role? Ozzie Davis? Ruby Dee? Matt Frewer? And one of my favourite sleezoids, Miguel Ferrer? Pretty top of the liners, if I say myself.
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Those three words... oh if only.
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Now we get a big-screen effort that'll leave even more out? Feh. I could see this ending up much like the recent "Brideshead Revisited" movie, which was inferior to the excellent Jeremy Irons miniseries in every way. The ongoing comic-book adaptation, to digress a bit, is wonderful.
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....the only way to do the Stand is as an entire season on a network; even an eight part mini-series isn't enough...
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*There's* an understatement...I still to this day remember my younger brother gleefully shouting "He's totally not there...!" while Kareem Abdul-Jabbar walks in front of the FAKEST BLUESCREEN EVER.
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I feel the same way about It and The Stand that I do about The Talisman. It's huge and i've reread it several times.
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He knows his King, and he's done post-apocalyptic with The Walking Dead. And he's awesome.</p> Mel Gibson for Randall Flagg.
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...wtfuckers? yea, I gotta stop trying to read up on his shit...too fuckin bizarre
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Jan. 31, 2011, 9:12 p.m. CST
If Laura Giacomo's epic tits are in, my tix are bought.
by DickBallsworth
'Cause... DAMN.
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Just fuckin' with ya.
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...and projected from the horn of a unicorn, that's what the people want. Honestly, I actually don't expect the studio to demand a short, PG-13 handling of the material, but 1) I wouldn't be surprised and 2) that might just mean they don't give it the budget it needs.
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Jonah Hill as Harold, Brad Pitt as Stu Redman, Christian Bale or Tom Cruise as Flagg
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till someone realizes AMC, HBO or equivalent would be the perfect place to adapt any King books. I'm tired of lackluster network attempts.
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You got the correct answer sir +1000 internets.
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I wouldn't go so far as to say Swan Song is a rip off or more entertaining. I've read both Swan Song and The Stand several times and love them both, they are my favorite novels. Buuuut yeah I love Swan Song a bit more than the Stand. A trilogy of films for Swan Song would be amazing though. Or a well made, well funded mini series, great story. As for The Stand on the big screen, that would be awesome, if done well. Screen adaption's of King's work is kinda hit or miss but I'd still love to see this! ;) The old mini series wasn't bad, but wasn't great, it had it's moments. It was very well cast.
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Jan. 31, 2011, 9:23 p.m. CST
If we don't make a STAND now, we'll never make it to the CHOPPAH!
by DANNYGL0VERS_DICKBLOOD
LOL. See what I did there? I made a funny. And exposed a secret.
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Mel Gibson as Randall Flagg. Make it so.
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No way one or even two movies(including directors cut DVDs with added footage) could do the property justice.
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Josh Holloway. You know it to be true.
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You could not do this novel justice even if you split it up into 2 movies. You also couldn't do it any justice unless you let Darabont direct it...the cast though would be difficult. Maybe Jackie Earle Haley as Flagg...? This would need much thought.
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the secret is, he is Fettitular... god damn, how many handles do you have?
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WE ALL FLOAT DOWN HERE!!!!
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calling me Fettitular is the WORST thing an anonymous stranger at AICN can call me. go back to calling me a slut please
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Maybe make this into a TV series like they did with "The Dead Zone" and "Haven." That seems to have worked out pretty well. They could then portray the entire book and expand beyond it.
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They should adapt that fucker very liberally. Essentially rewrite the last clusterfuck quarter of the novel and change the laughable finger of god ending. Great concept; great execution for the first 500 pages or so; completely falls apart. It's the old King novel-formula.
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The Stand is one of my most favourite books of all time and I believe this story is just too grand even for an epic three hour movie. I think something like an HBO season would be good, have the budget and the time to really develop everything that the book creates. I'm hoping that this movie is fantastic but my hope in Hollywood has dwindled over the years. Here's to hoping!
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Fettitular is the wrong name. And I can say with a fair degree of certainty that Braindrained Ryan doesn't even have a clue as to what he's talking about.
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How about make King's "Eyes of the Dragon" instead? And have it tie into The Dark Tower stuff....and that way I won't have to read it! yuk yuk...no really I'd like to see that, no more remakes!
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...the "Rape Caravan" from the uncut version of the book. Then it'll be on Harry's top 10 of 2012.
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Jan. 31, 2011, 9:51 p.m. CST
Mick Garris' King adaptations have been God Awful. TV/Budget does not excuse
by SirGaryColeman
He is a terrible director with no vision. The Stand on TV was laugh out loud bad. I hope they get someone like Darabont, who treats the novels seriously.
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Needs to be a trilogy or more.
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And one giant colostomy bag = You.
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you are Fettitular because you know braindrain name is Ryan (which I learned of while readin your posts addressing him weeks before). plus you loled to your own joke. only that loser/you do that. plus you put a break after each sentence. in short, you are a fuckin pathetic loser Fettitular/LowesTranny/Viggeo_Mortensen/deadflagblues/ryan_the_retard/telemarketer
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the douche or the pussy bile that follows it?
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Way to assume and make yourself look dumber than Braindrain. In case you didn't know, Braindrain exposed who he was back during the Stallone / Expendables Questions. Some of us were, you know, paying attention. As for paragraph breaks, we all do that! How does that add up to anything other than you being a low-rent ADD addled internet detective with delusions of grandeur?
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Jan. 31, 2011, 10:03 p.m. CST
To douche or not to douche. That is the question. And the action.
by DANNYGL0VERS_DICKBLOOD
Fill 'er up, girls. Choppah wants to do a sniff test.
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It's like you read my mind...
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Jan. 31, 2011, 10:05 p.m. CST
How about you tell us, Braindrained. You're the one whose on here all day.
by DANNYGL0VERS_DICKBLOOD
What's it like being the token nitwit of Ain't It Cool? The one who is constantly lowering its already pathetic talkback standards? I demand an account of your ringleader douchery, madam!
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Remake WATCHMEN. 12 part series. HBO treatment. Psychic Squid intact.
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Now, that would be funny. Reading your mind.
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no one corrected that? wow.
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She is a LADY. I advise you to respect that.
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King's best novel (as an avid reader up to a point as well) is IT - not to mention it's much more conducive to a big screen adaptation these days. The TV mini series was an embarassing atrocious piece of flotsam that ignored the true heart and friendship of the book, that a movie could show us.
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I'm really quite fond of you.
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I wish THE STAND would not end as well. But, it always does, and it's ALWAYS the same deus ex machina BULLSHIT. Sometimes, it's okay for the protagonists of a story to actually be PROACTIVE in its outcome.
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Wow - genius idea. GENIUS IDEA!
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No no no no no no no no no no no no no no! But you know he's on the table.
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and no, ONLY Fettitular/you would remember such an insignificant thing about a stranger you have never met in person from a TB that occurred over 8 months ago (but you are right, I wasnt paying attention because I did not participate in that TB seeing as I had no interest in it) if youre not Fettitular, just ignore my posts. but you are Fettitular (aka AICN most pathetic person ever), so thats why you have verbally attacked me the way you just did by calling me dumber than braindrain (which you have said under your other handles). and as far as the line breaks go, NO one posts a single line of comment AND use LOL to what they have said THEMSELVES. usually LOLS here are used when someone ELSE says something funny and you acknowledge it by LOLing at it. ex. normal TBer: "lol, thats funny TBerguy" ex. you (the pathetic TBer): "I cant believe someone would like a movie like that. lol." also, telemarketer (your less asinine handle) has been trolling several TBs by saying "braindrain is a idiot". then "coincidentally" you (under your imposter dickblood handle) has been posting in the same TBs with the same comment saying "braindrain is shit stain" or something like that. like I said, if you are not Fettitular, ignore what Im saying because you know its not true. but you are Fettitular and youre just upset that youre not as clever as you try to make us (or rather, make yourself) think you are. you are a pretentious douchebag who has to create many handles so you can have the ability to suck your own pretentious dick. damn, maybe youre not really that smart at all Fett... time to go make an imposter stepdaddy handle you loser
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They're on a great roll right now, and The Walking Dead is a perfect example of how The Stand could be handled on television. Unless you do a trilogy, with an A-List cast, top notch writer and director, a theatrical release isn't going to work. The book deserves better than a half-assed attempt.
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Admit it...you'd see it if this came to pass.
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Bit obvious and improbable, but Johnny Depp would rip that role apart. Then lets go Jensen Ackles for Larry Underwood, and Nathan Fillion for Stu Redman to round out the nerd-boner cast of the decade. (Matt Reeves to direct?)
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I can respect that, Choppah. But I can't respect you liking him...I mean her. It's unseemly. Like in a Taiwanese hooker sort of way.
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Jan. 31, 2011, 10:23 p.m. CST
That's a lot of homework there, yourstepdaddy. But you're studying the wrong subject!
by DANNYGL0VERS_DICKBLOOD
Look, there have been a lot of handles with the name "Fett" in them. I don't know know who "Fettitular" is. (That is unless he is the long running and infamous talkbacker, Fettastic. But he always used a variation on "Fett" after every ban.) But since I don't know what your beef is with "Fettitular", I guess I'll go ahead and ignore your posts for now on. I should just ignore them anyway since it seems like you're all into Braindrain's bidness and stuff. Ewww!
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Jan. 31, 2011, 10:27 p.m. CST
THE STAND in the place where you live (now face north)...
by MrMysteryGuest
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they're gonna do the first movie, then a miniseries on tv, then finish it off with a final two movies.
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Stu Redman - Timothy Olyphant Randall Flagg - Edward Norton Mother Abigail - Alfre Woodard (w/makeup) Fran Goldsmith - Zooey Deschanel Larry Underwood - Jeremy Renner Nick Andros - Joseph Gordon Levitt Trashcan Man - Brad Douriff Harold Lautner - Paul Dano Glen Bateman - Morgan Freeman Nadine Cross - Scarlett Johansson Judge Farris - Phillip Baker Hall Tom Cullen - Vincent D'Onofrio Ralph Brentner - David Morse Lloyd Henried - James Remar What do you guys think...
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Fettitular Deadflagblues Viggeo_mortensen lowesforeheadgirl (commonly known as LowesTranny) ScottPilgrim Ryan_the_Retard and many others are all one single sad dude and I do hate braindrain, but I hate Fettitular so much more. so in a sense, braindrain is my friend (who is a fucking retarded idiot who posts nonsensical shit that has nothing to do with the actual topic or discussion) only because we both hate Fettitular but yea, go ahead and ignore me. Ill probably continue to think you are Fettitular unless you say things that would contradict what Fettitular has said or liked. I got my eye on you son
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The Stand is broken up into three sections. So it would be logical to have three movies. I loved the mini-series, but let's be honest it lacked a lot from the book with entire characters and chapters ommitted, changed, or rolled into other characters or plotlines. You could do a trilogy and make it very different from the miniseries. Personally, in the right hands, this trilogy could be nearly as epic as the Lord of the Rings trilogy. If the studio gives the writers and director freedom to be faithful to the novel (which the miniseries wasn't in a lot cases), this could be epic. Granted, the treatment Kings novels have had in recent years by the movie studios (mostly crappy TV movies and miniseries though), that isn't a guarantee. Anything not associated with Frank Darabont (Shawshank Redemption, Green Mile, and Mist) or Bryan Singer (Apt Pupil) are easily forgetable.
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Jan. 31, 2011, 10:39 p.m. CST
remember that super ugly chick from the miniseries that was also in just shoot me
by stu_pickles
i do.
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But one of King's better ones.
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Was Fettitty banned? Because if he doesn't have the balls to call you "dumb" under his original name, then he is a fucking pussy who should be douched with Braindrain's bile. In all seriousness, why the need for a big handle cover-up? Besides, do you even know if "Fettitular" IS the original name?? Things that make you go, "Well shit, Danny. I don't know!"
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yourstepdaddy just said that you are a "fucking retarded idiot who posts nonsensical shit that has nothing to do with the actual topic or discussion" Are you just going to sit there and take that in the ass?!! Man up there, sista! Punch him in the dickhole.
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What does that sound like? A rock in a tin can?
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see what i did there?
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...including Dark Tower, obviously, should just be put together into a single series for television. Do one long one or two shorter ones each season and let the mythology grow out naturally in one cohesive whole with a single "look" and tone. He has enough material there to pull it off. We could even get an accurate Hearts in Atlantis adaptation (well, the first half anyway; fuck the rest).
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Because we are talking about the UNCUT version of the book? Right? I too, have read this 4 times at least and like Quint, wish there wasn't a last page. A LOTR length movie just won't work. MAYBE a Harry Potter 2 movie deal but there's still a ton of material that would have to be thrown out for 5-6 hours of screen time. Seriously....13 hours is about right.
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Jan. 31, 2011, 10:55 p.m. CST
To do it justice one should take cues from King's (non-fiction) DANCE MACABRE
by SoftAndPorky
HEY! Thanks for expanding:) BTW Snyder's Watchmen is a fucking piece of art. I wish I could frame the entire title sequence as a painting. ..or fuck it.
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Better book than The Stand.
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Fettitular has admitted to having many handles. the ones he confirmed were indeed Fettitular/LowesTranny/deadflagblues by the power of deduction (and the fact he brought up something only he would discuss with me) concludes to he is also viggeo_mortensen and many of the "worthwhile" TBers here know of Fett/LowesTranny multiple handles. it was DVader who 1st made me realize he was Viggeo/Telemarketer but its not that he is a pussy and is afraid to call me "dumb". he just likes to have many handles because pretty much everyone dislikes him. since people hate him as one name, he makes up another handle so he can try to get other people to like him (which he has even admitted) in short, Fettitular is a loser who craves respect/admiration/love/frienship/whatever PS: Braindrain knows I speak the truth when it comes to him, but I like to think that we have move past that by now
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I've thought about this over the years and my perfect choice for Randall Flagg would be Sean Penn. I think he's got the perfect face for how Flagg was described and can do the terrifying psychotic thing just perfectly. Cantcha see it?
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the VelveetaCheez ending where the hand of god plucks out the missiles from the sky or something to that effect...
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Jan. 31, 2011, 11:05 p.m. CST
Well, no offense but D.Vader has been known to assume many things.
by DANNYGL0VERS_DICKBLOOD
But if Fettitular is already willing to admit to certain handles, then I really don't know what the issue is. All I know is that I ain't him and he ain't me! And you do speak the truth when it comes to Braindrained. Don't you back down from that shit either. Stay strong, throw long, and kick that pansy in his Tweeting pooper!
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Jan. 31, 2011, 11:15 p.m. CST
Ok..ill be the first one to suggest it
by Wilford_Brimleys_Diabetes_Rage
Trashcan Man = Charlie Sheen Denzel Washington = Randall Flagg
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This thing is WAAAAY too big for one movie and you know there wouldn't be enough interest for a trilogy. At least I don't think so. Too genre and all that shit. Let AMC pick it up, get Darabont to helm it and change Flagg to Jack Bauer. And Ed Corbin as Bear Man as Trashcan Man.
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THE STAND Stu Redman: Timothy Olyphant/Matt Damon Fran Goldsmith: Michelle Williams/Rooney Mara Randall Flagg: Tom Cruise Mother Abagail: Angela Bassett in ancient makeup Larry Underwood: Bradley Cooper/Ryan Reynolds Nick Andros: Paul Dano Nadine Cross: Rebecca Hall/Eva Green/Thandie Newton Harold Lauder: Clark Duke/Rory Culkin in a fat suit Glen Bateman: Frank Langella Lloyd Henreid: Eddie Marsan Tom Cullen: Andrew Garfield Trashcan Man: Jackie Earle Haley
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Jan. 31, 2011, 11:34 p.m. CST
Frank Darabont + 3 parts + $500m budget
by The_Guy_Who_Invented_Coca_Cola
I would have a permanent boner at that announcement.
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No interest.
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This movie could be the lynch pin of the series. Tattoo is hard 'R', hoping to be a trilogy, aimed at adults. If this movie hits big, The Stand could be an epic 3 picture, R rating trilogy. If you want to see an amazing adaptation, watch Dragon Tattoo in December.
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Jan. 31, 2011, 11:51 p.m. CST
I saw the AMC presentation of Airplane! on Saturday
by Nasty In The Pasty
Sadly not nearly as well-attended as the AMC showing of Back To The Future last fall (no free posters either), but what a gas seeing that movie with a crowd. Everyone applauded when Leslie Nielsen was introduced.
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Jan. 31, 2011, 11:54 p.m. CST
I hope it comes out before the Dark Tower movies/shows/movies/shows/etc.
by Chris Miller
The events of the Stand are basically the ancient history of the Dark Tower books.
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Wish I could have seen it there. I do remember seeing it when it first came out. Crowds laughed uproariously the whole way through. I've never seen audience interaction like it since ('cept for Star Wars).
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Gary Sinise should be brought back, this time as Flagg.
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All the rumors before - for a while George Romero was attached to it. Around the same time, started hearing Talisman rumors, too. Sadly, the Talisman seems to be in permanent limbo... Great book, needs to be done justice to...
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Mention "The Stand" and you guys turn into a bunch of rabid dogs frothing at the mouth.
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Choppah's and Dickblood's suggestions. Do the exact opposite of all of them. Oscars for everyone. This applies for all threads.
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I'd like to see him rejected by the woman he loves, and die onscreen...
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You guys really like this terrible ending? Its as if he had no clue how to end it, and just defaulted to a horribly cliche Deus Ex Machina. I laughed when I read it. First half of the book was great, but it really meandered and became rather infantile and silly at the end. Please make something else instead, say Tad Williams Otherland.
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I want more of his character from The Prophecy. Either that or Seth Rogen, that should make all the Green Hornet Skin Flute players here at Ain'it Rogen real happy.
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like others have said, is a mini-series on HBO. No way the story can be condensed into a big screen adaptation, its just too epic. I was a teen when the ABC mini-series came out and loved it then but every once in a while its on SyFy and it had not aged well at all. There were a few good performances and casting decisions but it was TV safe, too many things were left out and some bad acting from some of the cast.
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No it's not, what a ridiculous statement. I love how film gets pegged as 'bigger' because they get more money to waste. Anyone thinking that more will be included in the 'big screen' version clearly hasn't been paying attention. The cold irony is that grand concepts in other mediums become widdled down to meaningless nubs on the 'big screen'. I'm looking at you Phoenix Saga. Major film treatments act more like Stephen King's The Mangler than any great redeemer. Sadly, films have become the Langoliers of the creative industry. Chomping and biting and snapping away at any material that gets in their path, leaving nothing behind but a dark void. -- Feel free to use this as your sig.
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The Stand was done for television already and it was piss poor. It started off good enough then because of its budget and network censors, it became an absolute truncated shitfest. The fucking hand of God was the shit sandwich reward for watching that thing. Absolutely ridiculous. And now WB wants to do a film. Okay, it could be hard "R" and be three plus hours long but it will never be able to cover all the significant plot points. The only way to pull it off would be to do a trilogy of films on par with LOTR and take on the whole novel. But that ain't going to happen unless WB sees that The Dark Tower from Ron Howard and Co. is really going to take flight and somehow do The Stand as counterprogramming. Never know. I highly recommend the Marvel comic adaptation for all you hardcore fans though. But beyond that, who the fuck cares...
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This right here, could be his LOTR
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I second a Viggo(actually Vigo) for Flagg but I wish it could have been Wilhelm von Homburg.
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I'd rather get a good It movie made.
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Because the ending to the miniseries sucked ass. Being an avid King reader, for some reason I never got around to the stand. But I know he has a major problem ending his books, and I was wondering if the stand is any different.
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c4andmore is right tho its a ripoff its as great a tale with as great a cast of characters. No movie, even at ~3 hours, can do either properly. Either books are bricks meant to run as a 10-12 part HBO Hard R series. I love both books and would love to see both made.
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Hollywood is serious about this King revival, I'm all for it, but I've always thought that the best way to adapt The Stand would be a LOTR style trilogy, I mean the novel is even split into 3 parts But how fucking awesome would it be if Spielberg directed? A Spielberg directed King adaption would be a dream come true, those two would be perfect for each other
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That big hand of god thing? wtf? Literally, God's hand appears. When I saw the tv mini-series do this I pissed myself laughing. Really, really bad. And besides, that apolalyptic vision has now been done to death on tv, games and movies. Even King canablised The Stand with his novel Cell. The idea was good back in 1980's when it was written but kinda been left in the radioactive wastelands by the likes of The Walking Dead, I am Legend amongst others. Even
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Look at the 'bleeping' mess Hollywood is about to make of The King's Speech, to make it a PG...<p><p>They will never go R-rated if, as Nordling says, "This is probably a project that the producers don't want to skimp on the budget"....<P>How often does an R-rating & a big budget go together in HOLLYW$$D??<p><p>Sorry, but expect all the same mistakes/omissions of the min-series, just done bigger....
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Split it in to three movies (or a 20 episode miniseries), get Frank Darabont to direct, change the ending and this could be great.
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I guess it depends on the age you are when you read King but I'd read everything up until IT when it came out, read it, and was underwhelmed. Overlong, not terribly scary and with an anti-climax that made me regret having spent all that time reading the previous however-many pages (a feeling that would return to haunt me on future King novels). For me it marked the end of King's run of classics (actually that could have been THE TALISMAN but he had help on that one) and the beginning of his long slide into today.. I guess 13 is a great age to start reading him, and maybe if IT is your first encounter with King then you'll love it, but I just didn't find it frightening. As for a big screen STAND, go for it. But get a visionary director with a bit of an edge... more Lars von Triers than Ron Howard
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It ranged from passable to laughably bad. Some of it was the obvious low budget, some of it was terrible casting (Parker Lewis COULD lose), but the worst part of all was how clumsily the adaptation was handled. I know King did it himself, but my GOD was it horrible. The first bit was pretty good, with the quarantine and all that, but then the pacing went completely to shit, and entire plot threads are left hanging. The ending is just truly, completely horrible. They end it in these odd, 5 minute sequential chunks, and if you haven't read the book, it would make NO sense whatsoever. If you have, it is just aggravating that nothing seems to fit properly. It's really a perfect example of how sometimes, less can be more. It's like they wanted to shoehorn in every (well, almost every) key character, but then they gutted all of their stories. Trash Can Man, in particular, is just nonsense in the miniseries. They should have cut him out entirely, if they couldn't find a way to do more than just stick him in, let him get sunburnt, and, well....that's about it. Gary Sinise (an actor I'm only so-so on) was fine, and some of the other cast were OK, but Laura San Giancarloesposito and Parker Lewis were just death to any interest I had, every time they came on the screen. Everything was way too telegraphed, god it was awful. I think if you could get this a SERIOUS budget, and get it on AMC (HBO would be fine, but no real reason, you could do it with AMC levels of gore, swearing, sex, etc.), it could be really good. But only if you updated it timewise, and let it evolve a little. We've already had an abortion of an attempt at a super faithful adaptation, let's let it breathe a little, while keeping the story intact. And I say you go way out of left field for Randall Flag. Get Robin Williams or something like that. Fuck, can you imagine if it was Bill Murray, but he played it more or less straight? It would kill.
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But if they could (bearing budget constraints in mind)... Randall Flagg: Robert Downey Jr. Are you shitting me? Is there even another choice? He'd fucking OWN in this part, and if you're going to cast a bonafide star, this is the part to put them in. Mother Abigail: Phylicia Rashad played a similar role in August Wilson's "Gem of the Ocean and was brilliant. And she wouldnt cost an arm and a leg. Stu Redman: John Hawkes. Grab him before he blows up and gets too expensive. Larry Underwood: Justin Kirk has just the right combination of recklessness and likeability. Glen Bateman: Its too bad Lane Smith is dead. Craig T. Nelson might work in this role. Harold Lauder: Bring back poor Haley Joel Osment, who hasn't done a film in forever, and would thus probably come cheap. And he's still got chops (just did "American Buffalo" on Broadway last year). Frannie Goldsmith: Rooney Mara. This would be a really good opportunity for her. Nadine Cross: Ten years ago this would have been Angelina Jolie's role. Today I'd have to go with Scarlet Johannsen. A little pricey, but probably worth it for what she brings to the table. Ralph Brentner: John Goodman. Again, is there any other choice? Nick Andros: Joseph Gordon Levitt, if he isn't playing Eddie in The Dark Tower. Quick, before he gets expensive. Lloyd Henreid: Mickey Fucking Rourke, y'all. For real. How badass would that be? Trash Can Man: I agree that Jackie Earl Hailey would be a great choice here. Everybody else can be safely cast from a pool of unknowns and barely-knowns. JJ Abrams should direct. A good consolation prize for backing off The Dark Tower.
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but apparently we aren't gonna get that so let's at least cast this decent (and maybe make 2 movies of 2.5 hr length to do it justice! Stu Redman:Christian Bale Fran Goldsmith: Jennifer Lawrence Randall Flagg: Michael Shannon/Viggo Mortenson Mother Abagail: unknown old stage actor or something Larry Underwood:James Franco Nick Andros: Ryan Gosling Nadine Cross: Evan Rachel Wood Harold Lauder: unknown, don't get a 25 yr old to try and play a teenager(or maybe Mclovin!) Glen Bateman: Jeff Bridges Lloyd Henreid: Sam Rockwell Tom Cullen:Ben Affleck Trashcan Man: Kevin Bacon/Donny Wahlberg Yeah I know the cast alone would cost $200 million........ I had a perfect cast in my head back when I read this the first time(back in the 80's) James Woods as Lloyd, Scott Glenn as Stu, Sam Elliot as Flagg, oddly enough Max Headroom as Trashcan man (which got in the mini series) Lea Thompson as Fran, Fred Savage as Harold...etc
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I thought about Franco as Larry too. But I was trying to keep the budget down just as an exercise. And I actually thought of Sam Rockwell for Randall Flagg. That could work too.
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http://www.subcin.com/stand.html its not bad...alot darker and bloodier than the cheesy mini
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I'm with you man. I don't get all the love for IT. It wasn't awful, but one of Kings best? Far from it. Some of that thing was just so... dumb. And it wasn't scary in the least, just corny corny corny. And that movie! Man, people love that thing. Why? It was fucking awful. Talk about corny. And I can see it now. "Lars Von Trier presents Stephen King's The Stand" I would HAVE to see that.
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Salem's Lot, Insomnia, The Eyes of the Dragon, and Hearts in Atlantis next. Then get all of the pertinent actors to play the same parts in The Dark Tower films. Do it Marvel style.
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Darabont's the man to direct this epic tale, don't you think? I mean every King adaptation thus far he has simply knocked out of the park! He has proven time and time again how well he can handle the source material and bring King's visions to the big screen! Go on give Frank a bell and watch those dollars come flooding in
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...they just looked that way because she's, like 4'9". Probably only B-cups in actuality.
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I feel that nobody other than Darabont should be allowed to touch a big screen adaptation of King's work. I REALLY hope Ron Howard does DT justice and then let the Big Screen King floodgates open. I'd really like to see an R rated Bag of Bone's done.
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And the ending isn't jaw droppingly bad.
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That's a great idea, don't really know who should play him though. When I read 'The Stand' I saw a young Dennis Hopper as Flagg. That's impossible, of course.
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loved the book, and can tolerate the Mick Garris version, thought they really screwed the ending royal (mother abigails voice showing up during the climax? Did that not kinda cheapen the whole "Larry keeping the faith" thing that was so powerful in the book?) Anyways, I can get on board with this-Darabont would be a DREAM to direct, though it may be too similar to some of The Walking Dead and he might think its a retread of territory. I would actually think the Coens would be a good fit. True Grit has proven they can do a proper maintream film while retaining the quirkiness that the fans love, and to see them do a King adapr might give his work a shot in the arm. Imagine what they'd do with a character like The Kid... Or Stu done with a "man who wasn't there" vibe... Or Flagg and the Vegas scenes getting the Barton Fink creepiness edged in... Could be great. Anyways-CASTING: Nathan Fillion for Stu, Evan Rachel Wood for Fran, Joaquin Phoenix for Larry, Danny Houston for Flagg (or Mark Ruffalo, or even Phoenix if they cast younger), Jackie Earle Haley for Lloyd (or Trashcan Man as suggested up yonder by someone) and Zooey Deschanel for Nadine, Ellen Page for Julie Lawry
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How can a three hour film flesh out parts an almost eight hour mini-series didn't. This is a bad idea and really the mini-series was pretty fucking spot on even with the "happy ending". Then again, its not like King did anything with Flagg being in Africa, so you might as well do the happy ending.
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Swan Song was leaps and bounds better than The Stand. I would love to see his book Stinger adapted also.
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Get Darabont to direct, create a trilogy of of 3 hour films ala Lord of the Rings, then do the extended trilogy on Blu Ray! The only casting call I would make right now is get Robert Earl Haley as the Trashcan Man!
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Straight to Las Vegas and not miss a fucking thing.
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yeah, it was goofy religious woo woo, but i admit I was caught up in it and thought that when "The Stand" happened at the end of the book and God showed up it really worked. In the movie however, wow, it was bad. Go away God. Go away. Also, the mother abigail voiceover montage thing seemed ripped off from lonesome dove. Eye rolls galore at the end of that movie.
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Christian Bale than the Dark Tower. As much as I love the idea of Bale as Roland, I think he may be a bit young for the part. I think there's a perfect part in The Stand for him. Maybe as Flagg - that might be kind of cool since he's already played the post-apocalypse savior. Just a thought.
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and I'd like to see them consider that for the movie. I'd like to see another mini-series. I also enjoyed Mick Garris's mini-series for the perfect casting and the acting chops shown. Molly Ringwald was the weakest link, and she wasn't that bad. The guy that played Larry was ridiculously good at portraying the sleazy 'biting on tinfoil' nature. Never saw him in anything else. I've never understood the love for the bloated IT, and it's kiddie-porn ending. Of course I think King's best works are The Shining and Misery: both are intensely personal. Misery really served as the gateway into the psycho-thrillers sans monsters. It is a taut-story briskly paced and heartbreakingly written.
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...is that too much has to be stripped out of them for the medium. That's why the miniseries of The Stand worked more than most - even though it was the PG-rated version of the story, more of the MEAT was left in. Honestly, to see The Stand done right, it would need to be a trilogy of 2 to 2.5 hour movies, rated R. I still have my doubts that they'll have enough time with The Dark Tower as they're planning it, but I have to give them credit for acknowledging it needs to be VERY BIG to even have a shot at working.
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Feb. 1, 2011, 8:52 a.m. CST
The Stand, Swan Song, American Gods....
by UncomfortablyInLoveWithHitGirl
Some books are simply meant for the images you conjure in your head.
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Reading is a skill. Herc actually points out that a 3-hour movie would butcher the story even more. Like everyone else, I don't see how this can be done in a single film, and I just don't see a multi-film series (a.k.a. LOTR) being greenlit.
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Fuck off. It still doesn't mean its a good idea since a Stand movie trilogy would blow.
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...I've always thought "The Stand" needed a big screen version, 'cause the TV mini series wasn't that great at all. I'd say have Christopher Nolan direct the big screen version. He would make it good.
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Feb. 1, 2011, 9:14 a.m. CST
Stephen King Is The Kind Of Writer Who Seems GREAT When You're 12
by NeonFrisbee
Then, eventually, hopefully, you read some real books and realize he's not very good. Prolific, sure, but prolific at being not very good to begin with.
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The stand should be filmed as a trilogy being that it's so large in scope.
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Feb. 1, 2011, 9:19 a.m. CST
The most interesting part of the book is the outbreak itself.
by David Cloverfield
All movies gloss over how civilization falls, we just find ourselves in the wasteland. The Stand is scary as fuck, but not when we see Randall Flag, but when millions of people are dying in their homes and the military still tries to cover it up.
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...then it truly would be a horror show!
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This needs to be a 10-12 part series on cable, Talisman also needs to be made on cable. Whilst I am dreaming a Y the Last Man, Ex Machina and Preacher series on cable too please Warners really should be making a tonne of money with all the great stories it has with Vertigo etc
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like almost all SK material made into movies or tv is utterly terrible. I mean this was completely bad and the Shinning is fucking retarded. I want a movie of all this soooooooooooooooooo bad. It can literally be a horror classic. Back in the day De Palma and Spielberg were is talks to bring the movie to the screen. Now, I want to direct and have in my head a million times. Fuck everyone else I want to do it.
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His new book is bad. I mean really bad. The only story that is sort of good is the second one. The third one is complete filler and the last one is very good in premise but the ending sucks. Most of the book is straight up information and very little flair. I haven't' read the first one but my friend has and he doesn't like it. I'm a huge SK fan and have been since being a little kid but
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The book started well ended well but I found it hard going in the middle. If this going to be one movie there will be a whole load of shit left out.
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Stage 1: 'Wow, this is really interesting, I wonder what will happen next'. Stage 2: 'Well, he could still fix this'. Stage 3: 'What a stupid ending and waste of my time'.
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I still have a copy of The Stand that has that written at the top of the cover. Certainly would have been interesting.
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Feb. 1, 2011, 10:03 a.m. CST
Darabont should direct w/Jim Carrey as Flagg
by Lionel_Richies_Hipster_Frames
Jim Carrey as Flagg could go wrong, but it also could go very right. I'd take the chance. With Darabont directing him (which he has done before) I think it would be sensational. If you couldn't use Carrey, I would use Mel Gibson as Flagg.
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I hate some of the stuff that happens in it during the end, but it's still a very good book. (I actually didn't hate the explanation.) Thing is, SK is taking story ideas that a 12 year old comic book junkie would think are awesome and treats them with adult tone and very well rounded charactes. Maybe not a literary giant, but one of the most entertaining authors you can read. I repeat: his last book is about an invisible dome around a town and it spans more than a thousand pages.
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Feb. 1, 2011, 10:33 a.m. CST
Change the ending like Durabont did in "The Mist"
by Magnus_punchjammer
I love King as much as the next fan. The Dark Tower books are my favorite of all time...but when i read it for the first time, the ending pissed me off. The guy doesn't know how to write an ending. The Stand is no exception...neither is "Under the Dome"...awesome book...let down ending. Still a good book though. Someone help him out on the ending, he was happier with Durabont's ending.
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I'm sure the end to The Stand can be "fixed". Otherwise, who the fuck would pay to see part 3? My idea, Trashcan Man has a vision of Mother Abigail telling him it's time to go home. He then waxes Vegas.
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They've already proven with 28 DAYS LATER that they could nail the tone, and Boyle has enough clout to get the film done without too much interference. I'd love to see their take on it. As for making it one film, Rospo Pallenberg, who wrote EXCALIBUR, wrote a single film script draft for it back in 1990 when Romero was going to direct. It was 129 pages. And it was brilliant, genuinely brilliant. Yes, it cut things down considerably, but even still it nailed the story and characters, and it was about ten thousand times better than the lifeless Mick Garris miniseries.
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Tell me Terry O'Quinn would not kill as Randall Flagg.
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Titus Welliver as Flagg'ss assistant.(Forgot his name) Mark Pelligrino as Tom Moon . And get Tania Raymonde's tits in there somewhere.
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Thoroughly enjoyed it, but I have a lot of trouble imagining it fitting properly into one film. And the problem beyond that is--while epic in scope--it is not really epic in action or set pieces. I can't see anyone justifying a trilogy, or even really two films. All of the "scope" comes from the characters and their arcs, which is why the mini-series format was the best form for adaptation(unfortunately Garris missed the mark). <p> I'd still enjoy seeing a film, just to see the tonal approach, and to see if it could do a better job than the middling mini-series(all the film version would really require is the appropriately larger budget and less stunt casting than the mini-series had). As for casting... I absolutely loved Sinise as Redman, and he's probably a bit too aged to reprise the role, but I can't imagine anyone else right now. Mary Elizabeth Winstead would work for Frannie, in my book. Chris Evans as Larry Underwood. Adam Brody as Nick Andros. Bill Nighy as Randall Flagg, Brad Dourif as Trash, Dominic West as Lloyd Henreid. Etc, etc. That would work for me. <p> At the end of the day, though... I would trade a good "Stand" theatrical film 1,000 times over for a good "Dark Tower" adaptation from Opie. He's off to a good start; coming out of left field with the casting of Bardem, a move that made me go "WHAT?! Wait... oh, hmm... shit, thats brilliant actually." Keep it up, Ope. Jack Huston for Eddie, Taraji Henson for Susannah, Nighy for Flagg. DO IT.
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...would make a pretty decent Walkin' Dude
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You could expand the book into a couple of seasons of a TV show at least. The King fans I know feel that The Dark Tower is far and away King's best work. I haven't gotten into the DT myself and the Stand is my personal favorite.
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Feb. 1, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST
Re: "Soon to be a major motion picture from Geoorge A Romero"
by WriteForTheEdit
Ha! The paperback I read back in the day had the same inscription! Ah, what might have been... "The Stand" is a fun read and all, but that ending is pretty silly. (BTW, the site doesn't seem to be playing well with Chrome today...)
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"Thanks, Lord, for the good BM today..." And yes, jtp8000, Terry would rip it up; good call!
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Director - Jonathan King Stu Redman - Josh Holloway Frannie Goldsmith - Rooney Mara Randall Flagg - Robert Downey Jr. Mother Abigail - Alfre Woodard Lloyd Henreid - Joaquin Pheonix Harold Lauder - Evan Peters Larry Underwood - Timothy Olyphant Nick Andros - Joseph Gordon-Levitt Nadine Cross - Eva Green Judge Farris - Louis Gossett Jr. Trashcan Man - Jackie Earle Haley Glen Bateman - Robert Duvall Tom Cullen - Chris Hemsworth
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Don't know if anyone remembers or cares, but a movie version of The Stand was all booted up for George Romero many moons ago--his name was even on the back of a softcover version of the book, which "announced" the forthcoming movie "by George A Romero". Believe George wrote the screenplay as well That project, of course, died--as did many other Hollywood Romero projects like his take on the Mummy. I know this is only wishful fucking thinking on my part, but I would dearly love to see George given the reigns to a big budget Horror project like The Stand. I'm frankly sick and don't need to see anymore of his $1.99 zombie movies.
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Feb. 1, 2011, 11:38 a.m. CST
There's no reason to believe this'll be any better than Davinci Code movies
by THE_CHOPPAH
Ron Howard sucks. One of the most mediocre directors working in Hollywood right now and yet he continues to get A-list projects.
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You know that it's real...
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Feb. 1, 2011, 11:40 a.m. CST
If this has to be re-made...made for the first time...whatever.
by guido505
The only director I'd trust to take this to the big screen is Frank Darabont. He has a pretty excellent track record adapting King's stories. Give him a James Cameron level budget and make it either a Duology or Trilogy and it could work. While I really liked the Mini-Series I've always thought a big screen adaptation would do the novel more justice.
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Although the book was outstanding, the mini-series was marginal at best, since they did have to leave so much out. (And the acting-YIKES!) How much more will be on the cutting room floor if this project goes through? Another point, we have seen this kind of movie before, and it has not been done very well, so I don't see much hope for this one. Some people seem to think that King is the be all and end all of horror and I will say that I have enjoyed his earlier works, but he has a tendency to run on and on about nothing at all with very little plot points. The last good King novel I read was "Cell", and even it had incomprehensible forays into non nonsensical subjects. I would be happy if there was a way to make this a well made film but I doubt there is.
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If that happens, I'll go see it.
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Come on, think about it. He'd be perfect.
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Leave out Billy the Kid (of course, he was cut out of the original edition, anyway). Either ignore the whole "Baby, Can You Dig Your Man" or set the movie in 1980 (my preference).
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When I read the book, I always pictured Kurt Russell, with his big Snake Plisken hair, as Flagg.
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Anyone who liked The Stand should read Swan Song by McCammon. Now that should be made into a movie!
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Like a few have posted before me, they should make a Swan Song into a movie. Its right on with The Stand in my opinion, sure its got some fat to cut out but thats what movies are for.
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Flagg should be played by Josh Brolin, you tards.
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I seem to remember reading that the creators/producers of Lost acknowledged that The Stand was one of the influences for the series. I remember scratching my head when I first heard that, but by the time it got to the sixth season, I finally understood. Anyway, given that, I suppose O'Quinn has already played Flagg in a way. That said, you're right, he'd absolutely kill the role as the actual Randall Flagg. Also, Michael Emerson needs to be in there somewhere. Too bad he's not quite right for Lloyd, because the more screen time O'Quinn and Emerson can share the better.
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I'm kind of torn about the whole Swan Song thing. On one hand, I do agree that it's a really good book, and its ending is about 100 times better than The Stand's. That said, I really liked the characters in The Stand a lot more. Also, I was a little curious as to the whole point of the Jacob's Masks. I didn't really feel like they were very integral to the story.
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As in, Frank Darabont? The guy who made the best King movie yet? Granted, he really hated his characters in "The Mist" but that was also wonderfully executed right up until the very end (to me, anyway). Call Frank immediately - haven't heard from him in a bit anyway...Darabont is the man to do this if anybody is...
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Any one of his books would make a find movie. Swan Song is almost too big, but not bigger than The Stand. 'They Thirst' would be brilliant: Like Salem's Lot but on a metropolitan scale. "The Wolf's Hour" should have been made long ago. I even recently read 'A Boys Life' and it was a great coming-of-age story. Everything I've read by him is vastly entertaining and begging to be adapted. Wonder why we've not seen anything. What about Dan Simmons' books for that matter?
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That sounds like pretentious hipster talk to me..... Salems Lot, The Shinings, Carrie, The Stand, Most of his short story collections, Different Seasons, The books written as Bachman, Insomnia,Misery...etc there are some really good books in there. He has a distinctive voice, prose and style and the fact that he sells a lot of books is more the reason people call him a hack then anything. (this stupid notion that good writers don't sell.... nope many of these writers who don't sell are monotonous bores with the style and prose of a cat). Let's be honest here, most book critics look like authors (and are failed authors) so they tend to be full of jealousy when dealing with successfull authors who don't write triple entendre metaphor based dreck about gay cowboys eating pudding.... So they call best seller writers hacks. Are their great writers who don't sell? Absolutely, are their great writers who sell millions of books? Yep! I think King is an important writer. Especially as a short story writer (heck he won that big short story contest for the New Yorker a few years back.... lot's of big fancy names were entered into that thing!). I havn't read some of his recent stuff , cuz From a Buick 8 irritated me. But the man has a solid body of work. Perhaps put the brakes on yer snobbery and read it !
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George Clooney as Flagging (and hopefully as the same character in The Dark Tower series), Brad Pitt as Syu Redman, Jim Pardons as Harold Lauder, Joaquin Phoenix as Trash Can Man.
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This (still) deserves to get the big-screen treatment.
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I think that in some respects film is the only way to gain the scope of King's vision. But you can not condense that novel into a theatrical version. It just can not be done. I appear to one of the few who enjoyed Mick Garris' version on TV. I didn't feel that it lost that much being made for that medium. So we didn't see Judge Farris' head explode or Dayan Jurgens really slit her own throat. Big deal. I am worried about condensing such epic to the big screen. I know PJ wanted to do LOTR as two films but went with three, that would almost be the only way to do The Stand. And the same should be said for Dune. Such novels can only be done long form. You loose too much in the trimming. Leave well enough alone. Next thing ya know they will want to do Thomas Covenant as a saturday morning cartoon....
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Michael Emerson = Glen Bateman
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He's not nearly old enough. But i would like to see him play a more heroic character.
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While I loved the Stand both in book form and on tv, I've been waiting forever for The Talisman to finally come out. We don't need another Stand adaption. We need The Talisman.
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which only means that he truly is Dannygl0ver. but after readin Viggeos last statement, I guess I should stop giving that loser the time that he so desperately seeks. Ill just go back to ignoring all of his handles. lol what a fuckin loser
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Feb. 1, 2011, 4:29 p.m. CST
One reason a theatrical movie trilogy is iffy: The snot
by Nasty In The Pasty
A proposed film trilogy would kick off with a film where the entire world literally strangles to death on their own snot, which certainly wouldn't help concession sales any (King even ackowledges this is his amusing liner notes to the soundtrack CD for the miniseries...and W.G. Snuffy Walden's score for the mini was actually really excellent). I mean, how many of the more squeamish members of the audience are going to come back for the next movie(s) watching 99.9% of the world's population die horribly? That's why most post-apocalypse movies start long after the bombs fall/the oil dries up/the machines rise up against humanity...you get all of the desolation without the pesky side effect of seeing mass-scale death and devastation.
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I agree, that most Stephen King mini-series movies weren't that great. I believe most people here are forgetting, "Storm of the Century" which was the best one, in my opinion. It actually told a good story. A villain by the name of Andre Linoge takes over this town that's in a middle of a huge blizzard in Little Tall Island. The film stars Timothy Daly. I believe it was the first original mini series movie that wasn't based on any of King's books.
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"The Green Mile" was a great movie, but "The Mist" sucked. Darabont should stay away from this. I would either want Christoopher Nolan or Darren Aronofsky to direct, "The Stand". Imagine what Nolan could do with the film, he could make it visual.
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Salem's Lot is still one of the best vampire books I have ever read. The Shining is still ridiculously effective. The Stand is a terrific epic. And Hearts in Atlantis is very moving at times. But then there's half-baked weirdness like Dreamcatche, From a Buick 8, and Under the Dome. He still knows how to start a fascinating story but I haven't seen him properly finish one in years. The stories just go on and on and on. It all comes to a pretty dissapointing climax. I had high hopes for Under the Dome. Very few people do deplorable actions in closed spaces as well as Stephen King. But the book had some ridiculous characters, a really gratuitous subplot involving necrophilia, and some of the most embarassing passages in the man's long career. His editors should have really caught some of these. But nothing compares to the inexplicable decision to suddenly shift to the dogs point of view where for no reason at all other than a lazy plot device dogs can see dead people. Whenever he writes something I decided whether or not I'm going to read it based on the premise. I skip most of his books these days until that instance comes along.
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Feb. 1, 2011, 4:49 p.m. CST
Would rather see a brand new film of "Salem's Lot" to be honest...
by ChickenStu
Although I love "The Stand".
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I'll believe it when I see it. I'm still waiting for "It" and "Under the Dome." Nothing's come of those either. And, to be honest, I wasn't all that impressed with the book version of "The Stand." I'd rather see "The Passage," which I'm reading now and is excellent.
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I'm reading "The Passage" right now, as well. I came to stay with my sister about a week ago and she demanded that I read it... I'm about 300 pages in and definitely enjoying it. Has definite film adaptation potential(I pictured Wolgast to be Jon Hamm and Doyle to be Mark Ruffalo, for some reason).
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No two ways about it. Approached "Lord Of The Rings" style. I always felt that "The Stand" was King's answer to LOTR anyway, and NOT "The Dark Tower" series, as many proclaim it to be. The question is, who would bankroll it?
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William Malone would be perfect to direct...get your creepy on...anyone who hasn't seen Parasomnia....well....DO....Mood and creepy...would be excellent...
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Glad to see there are other McCammon fans. Swan Song is a damn good book. Incredibly, I was just talking about The Stand and Swan Song to a coworker yesterday.
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Just seeing all the Swan Song follow-ups.
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That last part in Vegas is one of the biggest cop outs I've read/experienced. The whole "Finger of God" thing is a worse climax than the series finale of Lost. Alter it so we good a climax worthy of the time we invest in the hopefully multi-film adaptation and I'll be happy.
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Daniel Craig could play Flagg
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Wonderful write thats never gotten the dues deserved. He writes multiple genres and still does all well.
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2011 is time for Karl Thommason to kick ass again!
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I seem to remember enjoying Boy's Life and Gone South when I was in high school, but I'll be damned if i can remember either story...
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this is timed to go along with the DT movies, so I'm guessing there will be cross casting? Unfortunately, it also says that King is involved. I love King and all, but he needs to keep his hands off the movies of his books. Leave them to people that know movies. Unfortunately, that doesn't happen much either.
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Well, I guess the joke is on you this time. Because if you look closely at my name, you'll see that I'm not the person you think I am. Although, I do kind of get off on it...especially since Danny is really the CHOPPAH!!!!! Shame about yourstepdaddy. It appears that he sees multiple handles everywhere he looks. Boy, I'd hate to live in his house of mirrors!
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Feb. 1, 2011, 7:37 p.m. CST
wow, dannygl0ver and viggeo both think the real Dickblood is Choppah
by yourSTEPDADDY
what a coincidence...
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Feb. 1, 2011, 7:38 p.m. CST
wow, dannygl0ver and viggeo both think the real Dickblood is Choppah
by yourSTEPDADDY
what a coincidence...
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...and I don't see how or why I'd want to see a condensed, 2 to 3 hour version instead. It works as a mini-series because there are so many stories involved. As a theatrical release, I just can't picture it. It might be decent but it has to leave too much out due to time.
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Drop the first two books and focus on the actual Stand. Don't flashback, just start with Mother Abigail returning from exile, the assassination, and the group who goes out to face Flagg. There's just not enough time in a feature film to do the whole story well.
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Feb. 1, 2011, 8:41 p.m. CST
Wow, yourstepdaddy. It's like you can't perceive correctly.
by DANNYGL0VERS_DICKBLOOD
What a coincidence? You mean you've never heard of that before?!! It's not like it hasn't been floated around these boards for awhile now. Especially before the site changeover when there were a lot more of the old guard talkbackers. But when you're drowning in conspiracy piss, whatever floats your boat, right? Anyway, it's like I said stepdaddy-o, the joke is on Viggeo. But apparently, it's on you as well. CHOPPED.
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um... when there is a certain person discussing a certain thing and then an imposter TBer says the same thing, the logical thing is to perceive they are the same loser. maybe what you say or think would be perceived better if you had an original handle instead of riding the coattails of someone who doesnt even come here anymore (or at least thats what the "real Dickblood" told me). either way, anything you say is void seeing as you arent even creative enough to create your own 'flavor of the month" handle. STEPDADDIED PS: if you respond to this, I will continue to think you are Viggeo. most TBers would just ignore my "conspiracies" unless of course its Viggeo. its impossible for him to not talk about himself
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Feb. 1, 2011, 9:27 p.m. CST
StepDaddy-O, consider you and your conspiracies ignored.
by DANNYGL0VERS_DICKBLOOD
I've got better things to do than trying to convince you that I'm a different dude disguised as another dude who is making fun of that other dude while NOT being the dude you think I am. GOD THIS IS ANNOYING.
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Feb. 1, 2011, 9:29 p.m. CST
No, Braindrain. You're ruining AICN. Simply by being here.
by DANNYGL0VERS_DICKBLOOD
Get off the internet and go light a firecracker in your dickhole.
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that makes me think someone was lying to me about something not being true... maybe what people are saying about something is true... if so, that something would make sense, even though it doesnt stop me from thinking what i think about that someone ...fuck, its like those Mission Impossible masks up in this bitch
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I dont think a pretentious person would argue to death that XMen 3 and Spiderman3 are the best installments of those series. Plus I dont talk about Kubrick. so... no, Im no where near pretentious as you think everybody else is PS: good use of a P-word. tomorrow I want you to find a 4 syllable word starting with Q
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Feb. 1, 2011, 9:59 p.m. CST
I leave for a coupla hours and the paranoia game starts again?
by THE_CHOPPAH
Man, I gotta reconsider how I'm spending my retirement.
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Could work incredibly well and you'd be able to get a great chunk of the material there -- and if done well -- it would work. AMC/HBO quality -- with good actors, good cinematography, and a great show-runner and writing staff and this would kill. Film is just not the road to take with this one. TV is where it's at for huge character driven epic dramas.
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seeing as youre way more intelligent than me, could you please enlighten me as to how stupid I am with actual proof? Im pretty sure having different taste from people doesnt constitute to being less intelligent, because if thats the case, wouldnt you yourself be consider stupid for not liking Daft Punk since the majority does? and since you are "intelligent" please use facts, not opinions. my opinion of liking X3/SM3 over the 1st two is not a measurement of my intelligence, it just shows you what I prefer in a COMIC BOOK movie or expect out of one anyway, I will wait for your response as to how stupid I am. because if I am as stupid as you say I am, then it should be quite easy for you to prove . the clock is ticking PS: also if Im so stupid, then it makes me feel so much better seeing as I "pwned" you before (when we were really going at it a few months back). but you wont admit to remembering that because why would you admit to being pwned by an idiot?
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I thought a smart guy like you would be able to find some evidence as to how stupid I am... come on you loser, you know you have nothing better to do. and speaking of your "loserness", I actually have proof of that. the fact that you have multiple handles is a clear example as to how much of a loser you are anyway, Ill check back in an hour for your evidence, loser
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from your 1st set of "facts" you said hip hop is unoriginal and that classical music is complex. um, ok? 1st off, Im sure nothing made after 1970 could be considered "original". hip hop came after 1980 (i believe) so of course its not original. the only reason classical music is so revered is because its old as shit. just like with Emily Dickison. is she a great writer? i dunno. but she did come way before any other "great" female writer so of course she is revered. and if you read Dickison in this day and age, you may look like youre more intelligent than say someone who reads a book about Snooki, but really youre just following what others believe to be great writing. anyway blah blah blah 2nd, you dislike Daft Punk because its simple. that answer there goes to show me how much of an pretentious douchebag that you are. you only enjoy things that are "complicated" or seem complicated to the masses at large to show off how "intelligent" you are (which is why you are an pretentious douchebag). who is to say that what you like isnt simple? I havent listened to those bands (Ive heard some Prodigy) but Im sure they are not as great as you make it out to be. 3rd, dont even give me more mumbo jumbo as to why YOU think art dictates someones intelligence. you are basically a sheep, following what the sheepherder tells you to follow. you have no original thought and you frown down upon those who have different taste from you. now, heres why you are a fucking idiot... I ask for facts as to why I AM STUPID, not an analysis as to why certain things may be considered great to certain people. when it comes to braindrain, I can easily give examples and facts as to why he is an idiot. what you are doing is just trying to show off how smart you (think you) are, but you failed to do a simple task... give FACTS as to why I (yourstepdaddy) is stupid. you have failed that miserably at that so I see no point of readin your next set of "facts" (which is just your opinion) so... congratulations, you are not only a loser and a pretentious douchebag, but you are an idiot for being able to do a simple task this is what the discussion sounds like to me guy 1 "Hey Fett, who do you think will win the Superbowl?" guy 2 (aka your loser ass) "see the answer there goes back to the beginning of time when humans evolved from primates roughly 284,000 years ago. the temperature of the earth changed which led to their hair falling off and the gravitational pull of--" guy 1 "what the fuck, I just asked who do you think is winning the Superbowl, ya faggot. shut the fuck up" so, Ill just go back to ignoring you. you obviously cant comprehend simple tasks. I win and you are still a loser. come back and attack me under whatever new handle you come up with next.
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its a shame that your "facts" as to why I am an idiot isnt in a popular TB so everyone can clearly see how stupid you are for not being able to give actual facts to the level of my intelligence. but I know you think you are right, so why dont you copy and paste our discussions into the popular TBs and see the responses of everyone else. Im pretty damn sure everyone will agree, you are a fucking loser who doesnt know what a fact is. anyway, fuck off
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http://www.herotomorrow.com/movie/
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http://www.herotomorrow.com/movie/
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Viggeo, you are good at articulating your thoughts. Ill give you that. But you are a fucking idiot if you think what you said demonstrates how stupid I am. I wont disagree with you if you say I have bad taste in film because thats your opinion. But your response as to how I am stupid is a utter fail. you do realize, what you ranted about has nothing to do with how stupid I am, right? you just analyzed music and film (which has nothing to do with me) you just gave me your thoughts on objectivity, which has nothing to do with how stupid or how smart I am. so, like Ive said, you are an idiot. not braindrain type of an idiot, but just a pretentious douchebag who does not know how to answer a simple question because youre too busy trying to prove how smart you (think you) are. honestly though, do you think you gave facts as to how stupid I am? and where is this bully talk coming from? you are a loser typing away from the safety of a computer. how can you bully me by telling me how classical music is "great"? you sir, have a huge ego at AICN. I say at AICN because its pretty evident you would never have the balls to talk like this to someone in public (because a douchebag like you would be attacked or killed in real life) but yea, keep on truckin, ya fuckin loser
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um... wow, you actually gave facts as to why I am stupid (ie. spelling errors, grammatical errors, etc). thats actually a acceptable answer. gosh, do I have to call you a pretentious douchebag 11 times for you to understand what I mean by facts? lol maybe facts mean a totally different word in your world? but your new examples of my stupidness can be said about you because Im pretty sure absolutely has a E in it, but earlier you spelled it without the E in your post at 10:04. so, spelling errors shouldnt qualify as to how stupid someone is seeing as someone as smart as you can have errors also. anyway, lets agree to disagree, youre a loser, and I like XMen 3 cheers!
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"Attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed." Now if you honestly can say that you do not do this, then I dunno what to say but this is my resignation from this "beef". there was a time that I could enjoy this site, but recently that has stopped because of my hatred towards you and to braindrain (but now I accept Ryan for all his retardedness). I have since learned to ignore Braindrain, and hopefully I can do the same with you basically, Im gonna go back to how I used to post on here. by trying to enjoy discussions with people without having anythin personal to say. obviously, I wont ever enjoy a discussion with you so theres no point of calling you out/arguing/debating with you anymore. so, like I said time and time again, Im just gonna ignore your posts. it does me no good reading it or responding to it. Im sure you will continue to mention me by your main handle and by your other handles, but who cares. in short, Im done. PS: if by any chance you ever see me (since you know what I look like), please pull me to the side and tell me that you are you. I would love to discuss things in person and no that is not a threat :)
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I can't believe how many people have mentioned Swan Song, which is still my favorite book of all time. I don't think one movie could do it justice. mrm1138, I have to disagree, the Masks/disease/ what have you in Swan Song were completely integral to the overall plot and themes of the book. It's actually one of my favorite aspects of the story, everyone transforming, showing the world who they really are ;) Someone mentioned the characters being more interesting in The Stand. I think both books have amazing characters, but I think Swan Song wins that battle. Also others have mentioned other books by McCammon, he has several really excellent novels, any one of them would make for a great film.
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... the guy from the Allstate commercials -- the "mayhem" campaign -- has become the face of Flagg for me. On the other hand, a theatrical movie adaptation is just a bad idea to begin with. "The Stand" has been done already -- bring on "Swan Song" indeed.
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Nick Andros = Daniel Radcliffe Frannie Goldsmith = Saoirse Ronan Glen Bateman = Anthony Zorbe Those are the only three characters that just correspond perfectly with living actors. Get Darabont involved in this in some way and it'll be great.
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Took only one reading to figure out the ending was an anticlimactic, Deux Ex Machina load of crap.<p> The big plague breakout and ensuing "WTF do we do now?!" sequence still resonates, however...even shows like THE WALKING DEAD are ripping it off to this day...
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Damian Lewis as Randall Flagg James McAvoy as Nick Andros Jeremy Renner as Stu Redman Sharlto Copley as Trashcan Man Olivia Munn as Nadine Cross Oprah as Mother Abigail Jesse Eisenberg as Harold Lauder Hillary Duff as Francis Goldsmith 2 movies or 15 MINIMUM episodes for a mini series.
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Kudos on preferring the Irons/Andrews BRIDESHEAD REVISITED (which I actually barely remember, but I hear it's great). Despite your liberalism, anyone who prefers the faithfully Catholic version of BR to the "Catholics are repressive homophobes" version has hope... Read the book, if you haven't. It's one of the best-written novels in the English language.
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i also like your taste in movies minus Crank cause i have yet to give it a chance and with the addition of wes anderson movies. i love me some papa zissou
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Big budget 'R's are very risky for investors and studios. Its not just that 'R' films don't perform as well as PG-13 (they don't), it's that distributors and cinema chains don't like to run R films on multiple screens: family-friendly films sell more popcorn. Then consider the international market. Here in the UK for instance, the ratings are much more strict. The 'R' equivolents, '15' and '18', are legally binding. Younger people are not allowed in, even with parents, and cinemas are fined for lack of enforcement. Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. A PG-13 film can be every bit as terrifying as an R film. Its not what's on-screen that scares us, its what is conjured in our minds.
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And they didn't leave much out of the original mini-series. The only thing they left out was when Harold was whacking off while thinking about Frannie. King was pretty gross with that.
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And they didn't leave much out of the original mini-series. The only thing they left out was when Harold was whacking off while thinking about Frannie. King was pretty gross with that.
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King charges people $1 to produce his movies. As one of the most successful authors ever, this is definitely not because he needs more money.
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Feb. 3, 2011, 8:38 p.m. CST
People, I think the miniseries was based on the 1978 "The Stand"..
by ClayG
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Feb. 3, 2011, 8:42 p.m. CST
People, I think the miniseries was based on the 1978 "The Stand.."
by ClayG
Not the 1990 'uncut edition.' Hence why it lacked all the scenes that, guess what, the 1978 version also lacked. Now I like some of the stuff the 1990 uncut edition added back. I liked the stuff with the Kid, particularly. But the core of the story was already there in 1978 (I originally read the book in 1981), and that's what you get in the miniseries. Is *anyone* in this talkback who's whining about missing stuff in the miniseries (apart from the compression of two characters into Nadine Cross) not basing their comments on the 1990 uncut novel? Just wondering,
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His stories are the literary equivalent of a Mr. Potato head toy. You can move the parts around all you want but at the end of the day you get the feeling you've seen this before.
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I wonder if you say that about Tolkien, too.
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