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Merrick here...

The March issue of Empire will feature a new shot of Chris Evans as CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER (or, just THE FIRST AVENGER if you're in a part of the world that doesn't like America too much...I guess that would be many places, actually).  



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  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:07 p.m. CST


    by Pogue__Mahone

    Looks great!

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:08 p.m. CST


    by Judge Briggs

    Looks promising! Evans did a TERRIFIC job as one of the leader in Sunshine which I heard was one of the reasons why he received the role of Captain America. By the way, if you haven't seen Sunshine- run, don't walk and see it! It's fucking amazing!

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:09 p.m. CST


    by the Green Gargantua

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Goddamned if I'm not warming up to this film...

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Fingers are crossed hard that we get something with a lot of "Rocketeer" DNA in it.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:11 p.m. CST

    This movie is going to be awesome!

    by krabklaw

    Joe Johnston was the perfect choice to bring Cap to the screen. I think that cover pic of Chris Evans would make Jack Kirby happy.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST


    by masteryoda007

    Looks good.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:12 p.m. CST

    I am looking forward to this

    by disfigurehead

    I love the time period. The suit looks great.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST


    by frankenfickle

    come on. you guys all work for the production company, right? he looks like someone snaked his parking spot while we was sucking on a lemon. i like chris evans, he was the perfect human torch, but as captain america? come on.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Isn't that The Human Torch from Fantastic Four?

    by bat725

    That's what most people will be asking.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    So will marvel release this in other countries before the US?

    by skycrapper

    Like with Iron Man. I hate the PC "First Avenger" crap. Cap is our superhero go get your own.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    These a better pic of him in the whole suit here.

    by eric haislar

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:16 p.m. CST

    The Superbowl trailer

    by krabklaw

    Nowadays those Superbowl ads are often leaked early to the internet. Hopefully by Thursday or Friday we'll be able to get our first real look at what this Captain America is going to be like.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:17 p.m. CST

    A superhero not played by a Brit???

    by Pigdog

    Not sure about this. Did they run it by Nolan first?

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Also TOn of new spiderman pics

    by eric haislar

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Dirt Bike

    by 8footTallGopher

    Looks like he should be riding in a dirt bike rally or something. Marvel sucks

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Who cares if the rest of the world doesn't like America much

    by Smartacus

    At least in the framework of selling this movie. Captain America isn't for the rest of the world at it's core. It's for American audiences and if you try and spin him to play world-wide or back off of who and what he is even a tiny little bit you risk fucking the whole thing up. Just throw it out there as "Captain America" and if they go to it then great, if they don't then fuck em'.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:25 p.m. CST

    erichaislar: Ain't It Erichaislar News


    They should hire you. ;)

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Captain America and Thor....

    by DellsDontBounce

    This is certainly shaping up to be a Marvel-ous summer. The CA pics alone have convinced my wife (who has curtailed her movie-going significantly) to commit to hitting this one opening weekend.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    by eric haislar

    God if only.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Cap, looks great

    by klytusnotdead

    that animated BJ, not so great, get well Harry. ohh and Tron was badass.end of line.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Oh for fuck sake...

    by cushing1967

    Brush the chip off your shoulder Merrick - Empire is a British magazine and it has a full cover picture of Captain America standing in front of the American flag with CAPTAIN AMERICA written across the front in big fuck off letters. I guess we are trying to distance the character from being a Capitalist war mongerling Yankee dog - apart from the fact that...the magazine has a full cover picture of Captain America standing in front of the American flag with CAPTAIN AMERICA written across the front in big fuck off letters. If I remember correctly there are three countries that the film will be called The First Avenger ... South Korea, Russia and the Ukraine. Hardly a big deal is it? They're not pixelating his costume to removes American symbols and they're not going to dub it so that the character is called COMRADE SOVIET or anything.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST

    3 weeks old?

    by Phategod100

    thats some pretty old shit.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:33 p.m. CST

    where's the rest of Team America?

    by Spandau Belly

    Is this film a prequel to Parker and Stone's movie? Will it show the forming of the first team? Does this guy grow up to be Spottswood?

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Hmmm.. dye his hair black & an itsy bitsy mustache...

    by LargoJr

    VIOLA!!! Hitler for the USofA

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:36 p.m. CST

    I'm more enthused for this with every photo...

    by Peter Franks

    as the look is simply spot-on. If the writing is up to snuff, and Johnson can bring it all together, we should be in for quite the adventure with Cap. Excelsior!

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Who cares if the rest of the world doesn't like America much?

    by Subtitles_Off

    Um, the film-makers. Because they increasingly rely on foreign Box Office to save their financial asses when their blockbummers go belly-up domestically. That's the best reason they've set this during WW II. It's the last historic period the U.S. had any popularity abroad. I don't really think the mainstream is much more interested in this than in a Rocketeer sequel. Yeah, that much.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:37 p.m. CST

    What film is the corner animation spoofing?

    by gruntybear

    It's driving me crazy. Looks like a Lynchian moment, but I can't place it.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:38 p.m. CST

    "Summer's Biggest Superhero"

    by Subtitles_Off

    Next to, um, the other two.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST

    What does Cap stand for?

    by krabklaw

    As to what Cap stands for, I always thought of him as standing for what's right, not just what is American. Those are two different things and it's important to recognize the difference even if the man's name is Captain America. There is plenty wrong with the good ol' US of A (present and past), and I wouldn't expect Cap to turn a blind eye to that. I would expect him to try and help his fellow Americans in aspiring to a greater good than a foolishly misplaced sense of nationalism. Cap should be portrayed as the most altruistic of all the Marvel heroes and not some German-stomping propaganda tool. I'm pretty sure Joe Johnston gets that.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST


    by cushing1967

    I think it's the Shining.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Um, Captain America was created as a German-stomping propaganda tool.

    by Subtitles_Off

    When he wasn't stomping Japanese stereotypes and their racist word balloons. You kids hate The 60's right? Well, it was the hippies who changed Captain America into Conscience of The Country. He's been a pussy ever since. Hey Captain America! You wanna do something about the military-industrial complex after you're done with your little Rubik's Cube or whatever DEƒUCK® it is? No? Alrighty then.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:48 p.m. CST

    why its set during WWII

    by maxwell's hammer

    Yes, subtitles_off, that's the only help with the foreign box-office. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the character is a product of that era and that doing an origin story of him kind of mandates that you have to set your story during WWII.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Very cool cover

    by Mennen

    i hope it's good.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST

    You're joking right, gruntybear?

    by Peter Franks

    It's Stanley Kubrick's the fucking Shining. Jesus, Mary and Joesph, what the fuck has become of this board?

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:54 p.m. CST

    maxwell's hammer, if I had said "only," you'd be right.

    by Subtitles_Off

    But I said "best," because, since the origin story is set during WWII, when America was last favored by foreign nations as having their interests at heart, it won't serve to alienate the rest of the world. Use your brain. You went to school. And try to attack people for their opinion when you understand it, without re-wording it to fit your own bullshit.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 12:54 p.m. CST

    I think its great that they are making him a WW2 character

    by Wookie_1995

    It makes for some great drama with him, he has to deal with the fact lots of his friends are gone and he has to comprend with the new tech all around him(he will flip when he sees iron man in the avengers) and whedon will be able to work with alot with that.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1 p.m. CST

    empire is now an international magazine...

    by emeraldboy

    wont be long before there is an american empire magazine. there is the british version, the german version and I think a spanish version. empire has been running a feature for some time where it has been speaking to the heads of a number of us studios. that indicates to me that it clearly sees an american empire magazine in the future. it will become the premiere. remember that publication?

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Nice shot! now gimme a trailer!

    by kafka07

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Those new Spidey pics are SWEET!

    by MST3KPIMP

    Me thinks we need a talkback just for them.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Last night I rewatched SUNSHINE.

    by blackwood

    Been on a sci fi kick lately, thanks to the incredibly good DEAD SPACE 2. I sort of forgot how good Chris Evans is in SUNSHINE, and by extension how good he can be but isn't required to, because most of the stuff I've seen him in is jokey fluff. Which I hope this isn't. Not that I want it to be dour but I also hope it isn't joyfully jingoistic. I mean, sure, period piece, WWII was the last time Americans were heroes, so I'm okay with a bit of that. But I love the idea of Captain America as the conscience of the county, an embodiment of ideals that may never have been true, but are no less laudable for it. CAPTAIN AMERICA has the potential to be the most interesting and relevant franchise in Marvel's stable. I hope it delivers. I think Joe Johnston can pull it off. I hope he still has Spielberg on speed dial.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Good ol' gun-toting, non-mask wearing, baggy suited, brown gloved...

    by FloatingHolmes

    What is in the water to make so many people exclaim "ooo, that looks like Captain America!" It doesn't look anything like Captain America. You can like it or love it or whatever you want, but why does anyone want to pretend it looks like the character Simon and Kirby created?

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:22 p.m. CST


    by dukeroberts

    You said "I mean, sure, period piece, WWII was the last time Americans were heroes..." Are you serious?

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:23 p.m. CST


    by dukeroberts

    I agree with you. It doesn't look like Cap to me either.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Well said, blackwood

    by kafka07

    I hope they get the tone right on this. And I like the values this hero represents. I like to dream big but I would hope that the less savory Americans in this country take note of the selflessness this kind of character represents. Deception, greed, and slave-owning is not patriotic.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Corner Animation

    by MovieWhore

    im that would be Kubrick's The Shining .. ever heard of it??

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:29 p.m. CST

    That was the most random part of The Shining ...

    by skycrapper

    Apart from it being creepy there was really no explaination for it. I know it was covered in the book but it's been so long since I read that. Sorry for the off topicness.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Captain Pouty Face

    by juice willis

    Way to emote douchie.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:31 p.m. CST

    He still looks like he's wearing a quilt.

    by afrayedknot

    I don't know if I can get used to it.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:32 p.m. CST


    by BooBoosDaddy

    I agree with all of your post, except for when you say that WW2 was the last time Americans were perceived as heroes. I don't know how old you are, but I was in college during Desert Storm 1, and the Iraqis surrendering to us led to massive ticker tape parades and heroes welcomes. And guess what? When Saddam was caught we were called heroes, too. The rest of your post I agree with, but as a military vet I disagree on that one point.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:33 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    2 points... 1st Chris Evans looks very diff than how he did in FANTASTIC FOUR. I prob wouldnt have recognized it was the same guy if I didn't know.<p> 2nd that EMPIRE mag contains an article on 'The New MATRIX' - yet there was a tb article suggesting this a week ago which was apparently debunked as bullshit, no? I WANT THE TRUTH GAWDAMMIT. (although I trust the veracity of Empire 100 times more than Harry and co).

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    booboosdaddy, Neil Armstrong and his fellow astronauts walking on the moon in '69 "For all mankind" - The most heroic and monumental moment of the last 1000 years.<p>

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Amen, floatingholmes.

    by Subtitles_Off

    But, you know, like, superheroes look silly, nobody, you know, would believe them, like, on the big screen, so, obvious, you gotta change them, because, you know, today's audiences are, like, sophisticated, and, we, um, you know, like our movies to be very, you know, like, realistical and stuff.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Youtube video of the inspiration for the corner animation

    by jim for all those who have only seen the "Edited for Television" version of The Shining. I too thought it was a great scary movie until I saw the not edited for television version and it freaked me the frak out.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST

    You wouldn't like it if he punched you and then

    by UltraTron

    held up the shield when you tried to punch him back. Just think how that would incite you into a blind rage. You'd be like- oh yeah you little shield toting fucker! Take that! Oww I broke my fuckn hand!

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:45 p.m. CST


    by BooBoosDaddy


  • And every liberating nation wants to market itself as heroic, even if they are acting primarily in their own self-interest. Ask those same Iraqi people today what they think. Rightly or wrongly, their answer is going to depend on their current circumstance. There's nothing essentially "American" about military liberation, except when viewed from an American point of view. Americans do not have the global market cornered on sacrifice or political righteousness. We removed Saddam Hussein because we were responsible for putting him there and propping him up.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:48 p.m. CST

    "For all mankind except the Soviets because we beat you to it.

    by Subtitles_Off


  • Dammit subtitles_off, I can't quit you.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    its being released in other countries as

    by sunwukong86

    Simply "The First Avenger"

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:54 p.m. CST

    When is he going to get his Men's Health cover?

    by Olsen Twins_Fan

    Am I right?

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:57 p.m. CST

    If Cap is a German-stomper...

    by zinc_chameleon

    then this film will do great business in Poland, Ukraine, and Russia, where there are still a couple of hard feelings left behind.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Sure you can, mattman. I'm real easy to quit.

    by Subtitles_Off

    It's history that's a little bit harder to shake off with parades and ticker-tape.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST

    I'm deep inside Central Europe

    by David Cloverfield

    and I would gladly buy a ticket to Captain America. The "First Avenger" title is insulting to all parties involved. (To Americans for obvious reasons, and for the rest of the world, because it makes us look stupid and reactionary, if we will buy a ticket to a hero dressed in the american flag, as long as it's called something esle. Fucking suit thinking.) The world still has a love affair with the kind of America Cap rerpesents. We just haven't seen much of that country lately. But as long as Cap is punching nazis (along some robots) and stands for some real, but hard to live by values (like "fuck torture you inhuman swine" for example), people will see it everywhere. Fuck, maybe the anti-america crowd will think the movie is intentionally ironic, if it's done good. There are a lot of ways to sell this thing around the world, just call the fucking thing what it is and quit this First Avenger bullshit. It's making us uncomfortable with the property.

  • And I would say it is pretty faithful to that material.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Routh could play my saxophone.

    by Subtitles_Off

    I haven't blown it in decades, and, um, if Singer hired him for his blowing --- I'm just saying! --- he could probably use it.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST

    roman, only comic geeks even know what Ultimate Captain America is.

    by Subtitles_Off

    You do know that, yeah? So, your argument is that in order to sell a seventy year-old sort-of well-known property to people on the movie screen (that's everybody with a nearby theater), they should cater to the smallest minority (current Marvel Comics fans who read the Ultimate brand comics) of a small minority (people who still read comic books)? Makes a ton of sense.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Seriously they should just make some international trailers

    by David Cloverfield

    "Before the Iraq war... Before Guantalamo Bay... Before Vietnam... there was a country... and there was a Solider... etc." Market it as a love letter to what the US used to be (even if a lot of that was perception). A lot better angle, than "hiding America from the title." The suit and Evans look great though.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Good idea, david cloverfield.

    by Subtitles_Off

    That's marketing GENIUS! Plus, guaranteed, that'd piss off the droolers at FOX News, so they'd organize big Tea Party protests against the movie which would generate controversy which would give this limp-noodle of a thing some heat and get asses in the seats more than anything else. You ought to work in Hollywood. I'm serious! That place would be sucking your dick in about a minute.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 2:16 p.m. CST

    As a gay guy, I have to say it:

    by Rex Carsalot

    Gay. Gayer than gay. Gayer than a thousand gay suns imploding into a super gay black hole that flounces about inhaling planets like a total glory hole whore. That kind of gay is what that picture is. Really, really, very.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 2:21 p.m. CST

    rex, that's fabulously gay.

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Looks cool... can't wait for the trailer, or the Superbowl.

    by Chewtoy

    Live outside of Pittsburgh, born in Wisconsin. Damn pleased with this Superbowl match-up. A Captain America trailer on top of that is just gravy.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 2:37 p.m. CST

    looks like he's wearing a motocross uniform

    by Arcadian Del Sol

    which is oddly ironic, but remember this is the 1940s - there is no motocross.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Evans' facial expression...mock serious, or constipation..

    by openthepodbaydoorshal


  • Jan. 31, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Duct tape FTW!

    by Subtitles_Off

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 2:45 p.m. CST

    He's English you know...

    by ChickenStu

    Just kidding ;-)

  • As a straight guy, I have to say it: Rex, I just fell in love with you.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST

    fuck 'em if they don't like America

    by jimmy rabbitte

    America is a great country. We have an exhaustively inclusive political process, we give away all kinds of monetary and other assistance and people all over the world want to come and live here. Are we perfect? NO! We are pretty damn good though.<p> Captain America is a period piece; and the character was originally created to be a propaganda implement. It was World War II so of course he was an overtly pro-American character. Taking away the Captain America name from the title isn't really going to change the nature of the character. Are they going to CGI a different costume for foreign markets? I suppose they could change him to Captain France; but act I scene I would be Cap surrendering... movie over.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST


    by Meadowe

    I remember there was a little tiff over the fact that The "American Way" part of Superman's tag line was removed from Superman Returns. While the truth justice, and American way line weren't that integral to Superman, I know it did tick some folks off that it seemed to be "adjusted" to cater to certain markets outside the U.S. By just calling this fliq The First Avenger and not including Captain America's name is way more of a slight to me, but with the anti-American sentiments in the world, I can understand. But to counter, the man is dressed in red white and blue Old Glory flag over him, so it's not like people will confuse him too much with puerto rico.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Uh... seen it...

    by M. November

    I'm actually interested to see the movie. The suit I forgive because honestly ... if you went with the real suit on a real person it would suck. Lets be honest... suckage would ensue because no human even with massive muscles can make chain mail look anything but baggy. As for Evans - I've seen the shots of him without the suit on and damn - he's bulked bigger than the hulk. He has the all American look - which is good. But it's a really hard role to play. This is not just some guy who charges in and tosses a red-white-blue shield and beats people down. He's an actual symbol of all that we as Americans "should be". He's supposed to be the best of us - unaffected by racism, intollerance, fighting for what is right, lifting up the downtrodden, protecting the innocent --- even when it disagrees with his own country. Captain America isn't "America" - he's what we want it to be and that's all but impossible to play without either going camp or going over macho nationalistic. It'll be interesting to see what take they run with.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST

    "America is a great country. We are pretty damn good though."

    by Subtitles_Off

    France? France is for pussies. That, in a nutshell is The American attitude. "We're great. Not perfect. Great-ish. Pretty good. We aren't really allowed to discuss it, or we'll be called names and asked to leave. But, at least we don't surrender." If America were small enough to be invaded and occupied, as France was, 10% wouldn't care as long as The Super Bowl aired, 30% would cave quicker than Frenchmen, 20% would run around shooting people indiscriminately, and 40% would blame Obama.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 3:13 p.m. CST

    He looks better with the mask on

    by GimpInMyPants

    The mask really makes the entire suit pop. And this time Captain America's eyes are actually supposed to be seen so no excuses, have him wear the mask!

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 3:16 p.m. CST

    I don't think

    by papabendi

    it's so much about nations that hate America rather than the wider viewing world not being able to relate to Captain America as much as, well Americans. I was a Marvel/DC fan growing up. I loved everything from Superman, Spiderman, and the Fantasic Four to titles like Heros for Hire and Firestorm The Nuclear Man. Anything really. Captain America, although interesting, was always a bit harder for me to relate to. I think a lot of kids will go and see this movie. Marvel are already leading them into the film with the Ironman/Thor/Hulk/ lead into The Avengers. I actually think the harder sell will be Thor. I'm still excited to see the film but I don't expect many people I know will be that interested. Nothing to do with anti Americanism, just that the same people probably wouldn't bother watching a film called Captain France.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 3:17 p.m. CST

    THAT POUT!!! Just not BUTCH enough...

    by marineboy

    a tad camp imo, oh dear :s

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 3:22 p.m. CST

    I'll see this. And after seen B. Routh on Chuck

    by SmokingRobot

    I've gotten to like him quite a bit. Nice guy. Decent enough actor. He needs to be Malcolm Reynolds in the Firefly remake.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 3:26 p.m. CST


    by JonChambers

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Sorry, but the costume still looks over-redesigned ass, and...

    by Cervantes

    ...his hair would still look less 'foppish' if it was parted on the left-side instead. I wonder if there was a bit of 'subtext' sneaked in by the set's hairdresser?! Still, I liked what Joe Johnston did with 'Rocketeer', so will be interested to see how this turns out.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 3:32 p.m. CST

    The attitude against the French is ridicolous

    by David Cloverfield

    "The French government surrendered quickly in WW2, so french people are cowards" is like saying all "Roosevelt was an american president so all Americans are in a wheelchair." It's such an idiotic view of world history it gives me seizures. Even if we somehow dismiss the French resistance how can you dismiss crazy violent comic book frenchmen like Napoleon from history? I know the "A stands for France" line in The Ultimates is gold, but it's not worth it. When it comes to war in the last few centuries, those guys are animals. (And it's coming from someone who was taught in school to hate them.)

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 3:34 p.m. CST

    subtitles_off - Thanks mate. I would go

    by David Cloverfield

    But my accent sounds as if Bela Lugosi and Arnold decided to raise a kid together.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 4:20 p.m. CST

    I just hope this movie keeps on ....

    by fpuk99

    .... generating talkbacks like this. :)

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 4:20 p.m. CST

    American Exceptionalism, according to the South:


    "America is the greatest country in the world, and it can get away with whatever it wants. ... But it's nothing compared to my state!"

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 4:54 p.m. CST

    What's the deal with the parachute straps???

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    I mean... does he actually HAVE a parachute strapped on his back all the time, or were they simply added to make his costume look stupid and more visually confusing? Because that's exactly what they're doing. The same thing as the seat belts on the X-Men: First Class costumes. If they DON'T have an actual purpose, they simply look ridiculous, haphazard and poorly designed. And yeah, the whole idea of watering down the fact that this is a Captain America movie, in order to appeal to those with anti-American sentiments is pretty asinine and insulting. As is the moronic suggestion made by many morons here that WW2 was the "last time America was heroic." I'd say this country's heroism, compared to other nations on the planet, is pretty much 24/7. If the ideals of America insult you that much, don't watch the movie. You won't be missed.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 4:54 p.m. CST

    tea party candidates are being funded by secretive internationa

    by emeraldboy

    international venture capitalists. one of tea party candidate is being funded by the founder and major shareholder in CRH. which is one of the biggest companies in ireland and internationally.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    I had to double-take at that cover

    by MotherPussBucket

    because I thought it was Michael Portillo.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Looks more like Captain ZOOLANDER to me!

    by frenetik1

    seriously ... tone-down the "blue steel" by a notch-or-two, will ya?

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 5:11 p.m. CST

    France does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    For those interested in THE COMPLETE MILITARY HISTORY OF FRANCE, you might like to read...<p> (reprinted without permisssion by someone probably far more insightful than me)<p> - Gallic Wars<p> - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian. [Or at ths time in history, a Roman -ed.] <p> - Hundred Years War<p> - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman." Sainted. <p>- Italian Wars<p> - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians. <p>- Wars of Religion <p> - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots <p>- Thirty Years War <p> - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her. <p>- War of Revolution <p> - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux. <p>- The Dutch War - Tied <p> - War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War <p> - Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power. <p>- War of the Spanish Succession <p>- Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since. <p>- American Revolution <p>- In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting." <p>- French Revolution <p> - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French. <p>- The Napoleonic Wars <p>- Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British boot designer. <p>- The Franco-Prussian War <p>- Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night. <p>- World War I <p> - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States [Entering the war late -ed.]. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline. <p>- World War II <p> - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song. <p> - War in Indochina <p> - Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu -1881 Panama Jungles. No one but nature to fight, France still loses; canal is eventually built by the U.S. 1904-1914. <p> For those interested in the - Algerian Rebellion <p> - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux. <p> - War on Terrorism <p> - France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's. <p> Surrender monkeys. The question for any country silly enough to count on the French should not be "Can we count on the French?", but rather "do we have enough nuts to feed these surrender monkeys?"

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 5:22 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    For any French people reading this talkback I can only apologise... for your ancestors piss poor performance when it comes to a throwdown.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 5:26 p.m. CST



    Ya gotta admit, though, the Napoleonic Wars section of the cited material is more than a little distorted. I mean, hell--Napoleon had most of the civilized, western world (and then some) under his thumb for a while.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 5:26 p.m. CST

    That looks awesome.

    by Evangelion217

    Chris Evans seems to actually look like Captain America. I'm starting to really look forward to this.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 5:27 p.m. CST

    summed up by google

    by MotherPussBucket

    when you do the 'I'm feeling lucky' search for 'french military victories'. Ah, it's an oldie but still a goodie.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Napoleon does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Choppah, Napoleon, the famous 'Frenchman' born in Corsica to Italian parents...<p> Okay maybe the French would like to claim him... although he was only the height of Warwick Davis because yes, like Hitler, he did have some military victories... but ultimately he 'met his Waterloo'... epic defeat... epic fail.<p> Francais Chopped as you might say.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 5:48 p.m. CST


    by brobdingnag

    The point is to make money and you will never go broke selling the America as villain message to the rest of the world. World markets are actually MORE important than the American markets so even though from a storyline perspective they would be wrong to do it, from a bottom line perspective they should have Cap murdering black babies in Africa and drinking their blood if it sells (and it would).

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Yup, the Costume Still Looks Like Shit

    by Blood_Bubbles_in_Bathwater

    The 1980s called; they want the shoulder pads from their frumpy women's pant suits back.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Gee, it's too bad the French didn't have super serum.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Or an alien God to fight for their Way. "Surrender monkeys." Really? For those of you who think the history of nations boils down to a sports tournament or can be represented by comic book symbolism, sure, fukk the French.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 5:58 p.m. CST

    I think for dinner, I'll have Freedom Fries and Vichy-ssoise

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Ah, the poor French... such easy targets, so to speak. But that google search gag is awesome; never seen it before.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 6:05 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Monsieur subteetles_orf, ze french military history was purely for your 'amusement'...<p> As De Niro says in THE UNTOUCHABLES "We laugh because it's funny, and we laugh because it's true"!

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 6:07 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    edit, "the poor French... such easy targets, so to speak" hehe.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Re: Easy targets

    by WriteForTheEdit

    One of the reasons I love "The Simpsons" so much is that they're pretty harsh on the French at almost every opportunity. Like Ned Flanders, after an encounter with a brusque French pastry chef/assassin: "A rude Frenchmen?! Well, I NEVER!..." But, really, we kid because we love.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 6:21 p.m. CST


    by bohdi71

    The costume and especially the shield look great but evans looks like he's doing blue steel...

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 6:29 p.m. CST

    cobra--kai makes me some freedom fries!

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    That was an amazing post.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 6:40 p.m. CST

    teh suk: Yup, Green Lantern looks AWFUL as in huge fail.

    by the Green Gargantua

    He looks redongkulus in that outfit which honestly could have been great. The trailer is painful to watch and people in the theatre were laughing at it. Cap's outfit looks seriously better than I could have imagined. Maybe Nolan can reboot your GL in a few years, heheheh.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 6:56 p.m. CST

    You know, the sick thing is...

    by Anna Valerious

    ...after Marvel's killed off Johnny Storm, I'm okay with longer is Chris a superhero hog because of this...

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Now let's reboot FF!!

    by darthwaz1

    and make it part of the larger Marvel movie universe!!

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Yes but will Captain Britain cameo?

    by tommyleespenis

    And will Captain America team up with Captain Canada and Captain Mexico- Estephano Rogelio?

  • he was perfect. but i'm happy with chris evans. as long as it isnt channing tatum or john cena...

  • fuck but i hate giving props to that asshole even though he reprinted ( and gave credit unlike flickapoo) most of what he wrote, still it forced subby to choke on a shit sandwich from one in his own dojo!

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 8:45 p.m. CST

    the dojo makes shit sandwiches - with french dressing, and subby eats them

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    fuck that is too funny! ill bet the coward cobra lai is sucking off that pretentious cocksucker choppah/subby right now to apologize for making him eat shit by telling the truth about the french and exposing choppahs/subby's lack of knowledge about how pussified the french really are!

  • but everyone knows that

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 9 p.m. CST

    aw man, kobe! me next me next

    by stu_pickles

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 9:04 p.m. CST

    It going to come down to Chris Evan acting!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Boy, if I was Marvel I'd be scare! lol

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST

    chris evans can pull it off. he has to.

    by stu_pickles

    i have faith in him and even more faith in the sheild. too much faith some might say.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Doesn't it make you proud...

    by fuzzydunlop1

    That of a film based on such an iconic character was shot in the same place that a similar comic book icon (Superman) made his cinematic debut? Of course, I'm talking about good ol' BLIGHTY!

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 9:09 p.m. CST

    "Braindrain is a troll"


    Try this: "Braindrain is a shit stain!" Yes, much better. And medically accurate.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 9:33 p.m. CST

    "aw man, kobe! me next me next" lol

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    yea, can I be next for the TBanalysis?

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 9:44 p.m. CST

    'last time Americans were heroes'

    by blackwood

    I stand by that it was WWII. And by 'heroes' I mean 'actual heroes, who helped save the world'. I don't mean to imply the Gulf War -- the liberation of Kuwait -- was not 'heroic'. Maybe it was just the nature of media at the time, and it being the first fully televised war, but the 'world' did not necessarily agree. It could be argued. America and the Middle East have a very, very complex relationship. Nothing could be argued about America's participation in WWII. It was needed. That's what a hero does -- he sees injustice and rights it. Not for 'a given value of right', but rights it because it needs righting. That's the heart and soul of the character, and used to be the heart and soul of a nation -- in theory, anyway. That's the America I, as a Canadian, always believed in when I was growing up. I thought America was the shit when I was a kid. All the best shows were American. Most of the cool stuff I read or watched was American. My grandmother and grandfather were Polish, survived the work camps, and instilled in me a healthy sense of gratitude for those who would stand up against great tyranny because it needed doing. And that was America.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 9:48 p.m. CST


    by J-Dizzle

    "Look at me, I'm Captain Amewica. Boo boo boo" No wonder superhero roles keep going to the stiff upper lip folks.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 9:50 p.m. CST


    by stu_pickles

    nicely said.

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 11:24 p.m. CST

    by MikeTheSpike

    Looks like a Got Milk ad. Har!

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 11:30 p.m. CST

    cap.america throws his mighty shield...........

    by ORIONgods

  • Jan. 31, 2011, 11:33 p.m. CST

    I hope there's not a bunch of...

    by jimmy_009

    obvious CGI body doubles a la Legalos jumping on elephants. That would really take me out of this.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Best Superhero costume ever

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    Hopefully the film we will be as awesome as the costume. Very excited about this film.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Cap Thor and GL look

    by nursey

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 12:12 a.m. CST

    equally gay

    by nursey

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Good ol America, back when we murdered Filipinos...

    by Chet_P_Disney

    ...Dominicans, Nicaraguans, Haitans Cubans and Native Americans instead of Iraqis, Afghanis and Vietnamese. Such an angelic country back then, and such a vile country today. You guys do realize that any country as big and economically power as America is going to have to step in shit from time to time right? Next time you feel the need to whine about American hegemony ask Eastern Europe how much fun it was living in the tender embrace of the Soviet Union or the Nazis and then imagine how awesome a soft and cuddly Chinese century will be.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 12:47 a.m. CST

    EMPIRE = best movie magazine in the world

    by Motoko Kusanagi


  • "I guess that would be many places, actually" Yeah, uh, it's only being called The First Avenger in three countries in fact. Russia (no shit, right?) The Ukraine and South Korea.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 1:57 a.m. CST

    Captain Pouty Lips

    by MattmanReturns

    I kid. Evans was awesome in Sunshine. And he kicked ass in... uh... that was it I guess.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 2:29 a.m. CST

    "Captain Sex-Swing"!!

    by FloatingHolmes

    Could that costume HAVE more straps, please? Good thing they wrote "CAPTAIN AMERICA" so big on this photo. Otherwise Empire's readers would be asking: "Who's the guy in the sex swing carrying the Captain America shield?" But it's an awesome costume. Because that's what Jack Kirby's Cap was all about-- taking off his mask and strapping on iron! A man isn't a man unless he's got at least a .45 on his belt. Cap needs that .45 because it's such an effective weapon in combat, right? Is Joe Johnson aware that there's a comic book character named "Captain America"? He might think it started as a TV show. This looks like they designed the suit based on a conversation he had with someone who once saw the TV show in the '70s.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 2:32 a.m. CST

    That costume makes no sense

    by ratpack223

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 2:40 a.m. CST

    He was this pretty good skater...

    by notgeorgekaplan

    now he is this pretty good actor. I'm sorry, his facial expression in this pic just reminded me of him playing Lucas Lee in Scott Pilgrim vs. The World :D . But seriously, I'm very much looking forward to Captain America!

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 2:46 a.m. CST

    well, atleast the shield looks cool.

    by Stalkeye

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 3:42 a.m. CST

    Damn! That costume looks like boiled shit.

    by Star Hump

    Can't even put the mask on him for his first major magazie cover either. Plus, Chris Evans is a massive, worldwide movie star with a huge following and we don't want to disappoint those people. So much self-loathing going on. "Ssssh! He's really a comic book superhero but we're too ashamed to do a movie about a costumed superhero so we'll take off his mask and give him a gun and a knife and lots of straps and maybe a strap-on in his backpack and a bunch of other geegaws. We'll let him wear his mask for a few minutes in the movie, but that's just to satisfy those asshole fans. We don't want him to look ridiculous like he does in those Marvel comics. Except, wait, he looks totally fucking ridiculous anyway."

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Whats that The New Matrix shit at the bottom

    by bourne7855

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 5:57 a.m. CST

    I'm Captain America...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ... Ready to kick ass! Which way are all the brown people? Oh wait, it's the 1940's! Which way are all the white people who eat schnitzel?

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 6:05 a.m. CST

    re:"If Evans can be 2 superheroes so can Routh."

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Of course he can and most likely will down the line. I'm willing to bet Marvel going to have him in a movie. I think Brandon would make a good Simon Wonder Man! The Scott Pilgrim character had elements of Simon. All he needed was black hair, pants and shirt(with some red thrown in). Other choices could be Angel minus the blonde locks, Namor, or Richard Rider Nova.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 6:42 a.m. CST

    teh suk

    by smackfu

    Just so I'm clear on this, you think this outfit is 'gay' but think Ryan Reynolds in spandex so tight it looks like it was painted on is just fine. Are you sure you have a clear grasp on who the gay guy is in this scenario? You remind me of listening to a co-worker go on about 'queers' while he thumbs through a health magazine full of oiled up shirtless men flexing their muscles.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 8:40 a.m. CST

    Notice how many released pics are maskless

    by OutsideChance

    Compare this to, say, the Batman movies where most of the publicity shots showed a fully costumed Bale. I have a feeling that we're going to see a masked Cap in about 20% of the movie, tops.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Bring on that damn trailer!!!!

    by Mr Nicholas

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Joe Johnston still directing ?

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    With Mr Mediocre director at the helm its hard to get too excited

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Needs to have the helmet on.

    by D.Vader

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 10:14 a.m. CST

    The world doesn't hate Americans...

    by Dead_Kate_Moss

    It thinks the American public are stupid, partly for not realising the shit its government does that fucks up the world... You crow about winning your independence over the Brits, but they were already involved in another more important war at the time and kinda let you win. Also, answer me this - what do they teach you US kids about the Mexican War? The one where you just decided you just plum had a right to Texas, California and New Mexico and just took 'em. You whine about them Mexicans tookin yer jerbs, but maybe if you hadn't stolen half their country and the gold & oil that came with it... ah, fuck it never mind. Anyway, you all get so feisty if you think people hate you, relax, you're too needy. Go shoot each other some more and get it out of your system.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Chris Evans_does_not_exist_in_this_dojo

    by good sense_does_not_exist_in_this_dojo

    1. The French smackdown was amazing. I damn near did a spit take at Dien Bien Flu... 2. Chris Evans = blue steel... 3. And yes the rest of the world does hate us, but only because we're the BASF of countries: We didn't make the stuff you all like to buy, we just made the stuff that you all like to buy, BETTER. I could go down the list, but just a few entries include film, the internal combustion engine, drugs, freedom under a republican form of government, pornography, music, and on and on and on.... 4. Finally, what else were the Mexicans going to do with Texas and California if we hadn't taken it? I tell you what, they would've just raised more weed to smuggle into America and encouraged more illegals to go north into America due to failed socialistic/authoritarian/machismo based social and political policies.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Is Evans gonna play both Human Torch and Cap in Secret Wars movie?


  • Feb. 1, 2011, 11:43 a.m. CST

    smackfu -BUMP bwahahahahahahahah, sooo true.

    by the Green Gargantua

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 11:51 a.m. CST

    captain america

    by thesmilingpsycho

    i really think captain america is going to surprise us all. people who complain over the costume just need to shut the hell up and stop nitpicking. yes his facial expression looks constipated but lets not judge the whole movie based on that. i think chris evans will do the role justice. they could have picked a much worse actor. and hugo weaving is always fucking brilliant as any villian. plus i like what i've seen so far from the movie and that they are keeping it in the time period.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Empire gave Pearl Harbour 4 stars

    by Smack_Teddy

    when it first came out. They gave 'Never Let Me Go' 2. Whatever. Different writers now anyway right? <p>Tip: if you ever dont turn up for work experience for whatever reason "do not jokingly seek to appease them by saying "so sorry i wasnt able to basically make cups of tea for you guys all day". They won't like that.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 12:35 p.m. CST

    dead kate moss

    by Marisol

    Shit I'm american and I was taught in junior high that America took what is now the American Southwest. I was also taught in Junior High that the American Revolution was won with mainly luck. Did you know that America rips on itself so much that we don't need any foreigner to tell us about ourselves? American's are mostly jaded fucks. What are you a Brit? It must suck to be on that shit island with all the boring inbreds and soggy soccer balls. Come to California, the best place in the world, we fuck Mexicans all day long here. America is a declining super power but at least its fun as fuck. Keep fucking your ugly women. Keep watching a game that any retard third worlder can play. Dead Kate Moss, yea, death is really funny asshole, you miserable, unimagintive, piece of shit.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Evans: The Human Captain Torch of America.

    by Stalkeye

    Fuck, maybe Routh should portray another say, Green Lantern?!?

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 1:09 p.m. CST

    BTW that new gif is soo effin Gay.

    by Stalkeye

    Litterly, it looks like Harry is blowing Moriaty. Bad taste, Ginzilla.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Re: Gireno's Post

    by cutest_of_borg

    It's true - when I lived in SoCal I fucked a Mexican. It's kind of a requirement.

  • It's from "The Shinning" , matbe you have heard of it?

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Brits in California

    by auraboy

    I think a lot of us Brits do move to California actually. Then we get cast to play all these American Icons. That's right. All of us. That said the generalised American accent is about the easiest in the world to copy. Mind you, they sent a yank over to play Sherlock Holmes so we'll call it even.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Pics of Cap with helmet on....

    by Ian

    I didn't create the wallpaper, I just found the links....I think it looks good.....

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 6:06 p.m. CST

    green gargantua

    by Stalkeye

    Sorry to disapoint you fuckhead, but I DO (often) watch non superhero films. Just not Kubrick's The Shining. Ergo, i have no idea what the fuck was going on in that animated gif. Now if you'll excuse me...

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 6:19 p.m. CST


    by SmokieGeezer

    2011 means its time for Karl Thommason to kick as again.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Looks like a blonde Don Draper in a Captain America suit

    by lv_426

    Maybe it is just the lighting, but that is kinda how it looks.

  • Feb. 1, 2011, 8 p.m. CST

    Super Dave Osbourne Movie?

    by Jonas Earl James


  • Feb. 2, 2011, 12:36 a.m. CST

    The Incredible Hulk


    I was watching the 2nd Hulk movie again the other day, and do yall remember the scene on the college campus when Blonsky (Tim Roth) charges at the Hulk after he's been given the super soldier serum? This should be the exact model for how Captain America moves! Tearing ahead of the pack and fearlessly diving headlong into the action, not to mention being able to withstand a serious beat down. If they can mirror the look of Blonsky's movements, I think they could capture the enhanced sped, strength and agility of Cap perfectly.

  • Feb. 2, 2011, 5:18 a.m. CST


    by Li75

    they will release it in the order to which the allies went to war? i.e. you come in last

  • Feb. 2, 2011, 10:29 a.m. CST

    The world doesnt think all Americancs are stupid

    by Smack_Teddy

    they think that the entire American hardcore extremist rightwing population is stupid. As a brit, i can safely say bar Morris & Iannucci we have nothing close to holding a candle in reflecting opon and commenting on the cracks, humours, and absurdities in our nations society, culture industry than what the Simpsons used to do & what The Daily Show, Colbert report etc. does now for example. Hell, The Thick of It, one of the best things to have come along in years on tv in this respect, owes as much to 'Larry Sanders' as it does to 'Yes Minister'