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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s Behind the Scenes Pic!

Continuing our Star Wars run I have yet another still from The Empire Strikes Back. I know Empire is the title I’ve returned to the most, but I can’t get enough of these images. I grew up loving Star Wars and Jedi, but it was Empire that captured my imagination. There’s a weight to the movie that isn’t exactly matched in either of the other Original Trilogy flicks.

Plus I loved Yoda, so there was that.

Today we look at the filming of that slimy mudhole that little goofy bastard calls home. Enjoy!

 

 

Tomorrow’s behind the scenes pic gets its revenge… I mean, its… return? Uh… Blue Harvest.

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  • Jan. 27, 2011, 7:37 p.m. CST

    failed

    by wattos new hat

    has he

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 7:37 p.m. CST

    first

    by wattos new hat

    am i

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Geektastic!

    by Sumatran_Rat_Monkey

    Much love for ESB. Couldn't get enough of this movie back in the day... Still my favorite of the trilogy.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 7:45 p.m. CST

    It's a pity we are never going to see a sequel trilogy

    by KilliK

    with Luke as an older,wiser and more powerful even than Yoda, Jedi who is capable of even lifting star-destroyers from the ground. that would have worked so well as a continuity to his training days in Dagobah and his disbelief to the Force's abilities and how much he had progresses and changed his view since then. But alas fat man Luca$ has ruined that chance for ever.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 7:46 p.m. CST

    WOW!

    by sonnyfern

    That's a killer freaking set! I never realized how BIG it was until now!

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Wrong! this is from the ESB Holiday Special!

    by vin_diggler

    And that's not luke, it's one of the Life Day Gnomes coming to Grant Yoda his wish! It's so obvious, look how short he is, he's small than R2.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Nice pic

    by TheMcflyFarm

    I'd like to see some pics of Yoda being puppeteered.That'd be cool.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Weight that the other OT films lack????

    by Superturd

    I call bullshit...it could never be as potent without what comes after, and especially, what comes before. We all know it's the best one, Armond White, but the deaths of Obi-Wan and Emperor Palpatine are two of the most emotional moments Lucas has ever been involved with and neither of them are in your precious Jedi...I mean Empire...uh something something something Dark Side.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Awwww, Back in the day....

    by Darth_Kaos

    when movies where shot on real soundstages, and not compiled in a computer. goddamn I miss those days.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST

    wheres the lucas/ prequel bashing

    by ORIONgods

    it isnt star wars without it :/

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST

    That's a REAL director.

    by JudasPriestly

    Not like the one that "directed" the prequel trilogy.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Take CGI away from Lucas

    by quantize

    He's a serial abuser..his work was much better when they struggled with puppets and shit..

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:14 p.m. CST

    I love Empire....but....

    by matthooper8

    No "powerful" or "weighty" moment in Empire is as good as any in Star Wars. Any powerful moment in Empire exists only because of the existence of Star Wars. Any "weight" to Empire can be trumped by it's genesis in Star Wars. A kiss, an insult, a joke, a mentor moment, anything.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:19 p.m. CST

    I don't understand

    by J43

    Where's the blue screen?

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:32 p.m. CST

    A New Hope and Empire are equal

    by vin_diggler

    there is no point in trying to explain why one is better than the other. They struck gold with both. Unfortunatly they only struck silver with Return of the Jedi.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Hands down, the best movie of the series!

    by vettebro

    If you don't agree, your a retard. Period.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:36 p.m. CST

    You'd think movies were only made by Spielberg or Lucas

    by batnipplesbadass

    by this column. Every other one is something be Spielberg or Lucas. C'mon, there are so many movies out there!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Awesome. Looks like the crew had a good time.

    by CodeName

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:38 p.m. CST

    "your a retard"

    by vin_diggler

    oh what great irony in that statement!

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Yoda was a stupid muppet

    by Rupee88

    And I said that when I first saw this film at 13 y/o. SW (ep 4) is so much better than this one. And the DV father thing is just lazy writing...well glad you guys enjoy it..maybe you were 8 y/o when you saw it.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:41 p.m. CST

    typing DV instead of Darth Vader

    by vin_diggler

    now that's lazy writing. wow to ironic statements in a row. I'm on fire!

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 8:57 p.m. CST

    rupee88

    by slone13

    I'm glad that YOU'RE glad I enjoyed Empire. Now get your ass back to Boystown, you stupid fuck.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:02 p.m. CST

    rupee88 is trollin

    by elsewhere

    Only a troll would say something that fucking stupid. I'd love to bash the prequels some more, but I exhausted all of my hate in the last Star Wars tb. Anyway, great picture! My favorite Star Wars film and one of my favorite movies of all time.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Prequel Yoda did too much kung fu...

    by darthwaz1

    Not that he shouldn't be able to kick some serious ass if he needs too, but Lucas just over-used it.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:05 p.m. CST

    well with that train of thought braindrain

    by vin_diggler

    Marlon Brando was only in the Godfather trilogy for about an hour. Does that make his character less important? I fail to see your point.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:09 p.m. CST

    vin diggler

    by lochkray

    Yeah, I noticed the "your a retard" irony as well - however, I gotta point out: it's TWO ironic statements in a row, if you really want to master the art of being a Mr.Smarty-pants.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Note that the director is leaning forward and pointing

    by MattmanReturns

    instead of sitting back and sipping coffee.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:17 p.m. CST

    yes good catch lochray

    by vin_diggler

    I did catch that myself right after I wrote it. I thought about posting a correction afterwords but realized that that would make me look even more like an ass. So I took the cowards path and hoped no one would catch my error. I admit I am not flawless either.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:18 p.m. CST

    "Faster, more intense!" Wait, is that Kershner? Damn right.

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    I love the mischievous Yoda. I wish we could have seen a lot more of that in the prequels. You don't need a bumbling Jar Jar to make kids laugh when you have a funny green frog-elf giggling and throwing stuff around. Showing Yoda in the prequels totally destroys the surprise when we find out he's Yoda. How did Lucas get so big eating food of this kind?

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:20 p.m. CST

    good catch lochray

    by vin_diggler

    I did miss the "w" key when writing my post. All though I must point out that I am laughing at the irony of the entire statement, not the poor grammer.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:20 p.m. CST

    That's a pretty awesome set

    by Bobo_Vision

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Empire remains the most perfect movie ever made

    by SifoDyasJr

    Kerschner got it right. Let the actors play and find the right chemistry, then let the visual effects guys fill in the background. Nearly 31 years later it's still absolute perfection.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:23 p.m. CST

    I agree Yoda's sudden death was disappointing (and bullshit)

    by MattmanReturns

    All of the sudden he's sick? And he just happens to die right when Luke shows up? *patiently awaits bullshit fanboy explaination: "He's a Jedi, he can die when he wants!"*

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:24 p.m. CST

    But he was awesome in Empire.

    by MattmanReturns

    Just the right amount of Yoda. Not too much, not too little. Not jumping around like fucking Sonic the Hedgehog, and not dying after 5 minutes.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Force ghosts can't fight *slurp*

    by MattmanReturns

    They can only say cryptic shit and point at stuff. Sometimes they can make themselves look younger, even though they died older.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:32 p.m. CST

    I used to have this pic on a Topps trading card (nt)

    by Triple_J_72

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Such a shame

    by Mr Lucas

    that where that set was, there is now a big Tesco supermarket. Travesty it is.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:53 p.m. CST

    I always thought that Yoda was already due past his time

    by KilliK

    but since he was the most powerful Jedi and the whole Dagobah planet was a swamp filled with life thus the Force was very strong there,he used the Force to stay alive enough for Luke to come and train him.and when he finishes the training thus completing his mission,he can finally find his peace.thats why he dies there suddenly. dont forget that there is the hint that Yoda's 800ys old age was because of the Force and not of the genes of his mysterious race.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 9:55 p.m. CST

    ESB

    by Dealer

    They really did nail it with this one. Great movie!

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Dark Empire Series

    by rickdeckard1

    Dark Empire could have laid out the groundwork as the inspiration to the final trilogy. If you are among the few that have not read it, do so! The Dark Horse Star Wars Dark Empire Comic book series was awesome!

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 10:36 p.m. CST

    Gave a shit

    by proevad

    as a youngling I did. But now, I detest everything about these movies. Also, I've seen that picture in about 300 different places over the years. One of you young guys needs to write the next big thing, instead of continually paying Lucas dividends by slobbering over this played out saga.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 10:41 p.m. CST

    Yoda was not a "stupid Muppet"...

    by Seven_of_Borgnine

    'cause Muppets RULE!!! I think audiences tend to respond to puppets (or rather, "masks") on some instinctual level, at least if the puppeteer is any good. Talking through a proxy mask is a form of communication probably as old as language/culture itself. A great CGI team can sometimes pull it off (Gollum) but usually not. Yoda is "real" enough for me... I just accept the puppet, like some vividly hallucinated version of Grover, as a real being. The CGI Yoda was just plain weird and distracting. I could tell Frank Oz was not moving the creature, and that made a HUGE difference, at least for me.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 10:51 p.m. CST

    SHOCKER! So GL does know how to use "real" set pieces?

    by ganymede3010

    I thought everything he did was in front of a green-screen.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 11:15 p.m. CST

    I saw Empire on it's release...

    by ufoclub1977

    and did not get the same kind of magic transported obsessed feeling as I did with Star Wars... and here's why: 1. Yoda taught Luke Kung Fu flips and shit and it didn't seem mystical or religious (Ben was much more interesting and compelling). However the floating of the x-wing is a great scene. 2. Vadar seemed like a cartoon character killing people left and right in a non-disturbing rated G slapstick way (compare to his scenes in Star Wars where he seems brutal)... but his duel with Luke was awesome. 3. The worlds seemed like sound stages that were too easily reached. The environments were theatrical as opposed to cinematic. this universe felt small. 4. The giant space slug actually made me feel embarrassed (and I was in 5th grade!). It was silly looking, and didn't seem as high brow and impressionistic as things like a skeleton on a dune in the background like in Star Wars. 5. Obi-wan was literally a glowing ghost! Silly. 6. The light sabre didn't seem mystical anymore, it was used to gut a Taun Taun. 7. The story had weak moments, like the entire wampa scene (which served no story purpose at all), and there were soap opera moments like when it goes "Luke, Father? Son." 8. There were not as many cool situations/set pieces like in Star Wars. That hallucinatory fight in the giant tree cave was pure shit with it's made for TV staccato slow motion. All the characters were strong however! As was the dialogue. Return of the Jedi is so shitty I can't even watch it these days. I think it's worse than the new movies! And those are truly dysfunctional on story/character level. Star Wars is still my gold standard. And I do kind of wish it had never been followed by any sequels.

  • Jan. 27, 2011, 11:39 p.m. CST

    ESB

    by dukeroberts

    My favorite of the bunch, with Star Wars a close second. I miss practical effects shots.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 2:09 a.m. CST

    I wish Lucas would make a movie using the EXACT same techniques

    by Ben_Richards_Bomb_Collar

    and release it under an alias like Bob Smith. Then watch as everyone here would rip it a huge new asshole, complaining about how out of date the effects are. Then Lucas can jump out from behind a curtain or something and yell "Ha!" and I'd never have to hear shit like "that's when they actually shot movies instead of making them in a computer" again.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 2:53 a.m. CST

    Damn that's a big set...

    by photoboy

    ... from that angle it's almost like they've gone out to Dagobah with a film crew rather than being on a sound stage.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 4:11 a.m. CST

    I had a Star Wars dream last night...

    by Righteous Brother

    I dreamt that, he'd change the cantina Han/Greedo scene again on the SW blu-ray, so that Chewie gets into a tussle with another alien, and Chewies blaster accidentally goes off and shoots Greedo.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 4:15 a.m. CST

    those sets......

    by Righteous Brother

    I would forgive everything in the prequels even Jar Jar..........if they'd filmed everything on massive sets. The Death Star, Hoth Rebel Base, Cloud City all look better that most of the CGI sets in the prequels, and they were filmed 20 years earlier. Although, the place where Darth Maul and Obi Wan fight in TPM looks pretty good, and the landing platform on Kamino in AOTC looks good but that's about it. Not sure how the rest of its going to look on Blu-Ray.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 4:15 a.m. CST

    Re: ufoclub1977

    by bubcus

    I too saw Empire on its release (I was about seven years old at the time). As you're entitled to your opinion, here's my outlook on your scenes: 1. Yoda's words were extremely religious as Luke was doing his running and flips. Many of Yoda's lines are commonly quoted from the pulpit in churches. 2. I didn't get any vibe that Vader was behaving cartoon-like. He proved he could choke someone from far away, could block lasers with his hand, and completely messed Luke up. 3. Tatooine / Death Star / Yavin 4 vs Hoth / Asteroid Field / Degobah / Bespin. The environments were fine and adequately different from the first film. 4. The giant space slug might have been a little silly, I know I thought it a bit strange that his throat was one straight long tunnel that had its own gravity... and I was seven. But it didn't bother me enough to complain. 5. I didn't see anything wrong with Obi-wan being a glowing ghost. Of course, religiously it's something I sort of grasped as to our own afterlives (perhaps not glowing though). 6. Han using the lightsaber was a great scene. And the fight at the end of the film still remains one of the greatest to me. 7. Though some attributed the wampa scene as necessary due to Mark Hamill's car accident, I love the original pre-SE version. Luke reaching out for that saber is one of my favorite scenes as the unseen beast slowly makes its way to him. It also showed that Luke was attuned to the force. And I liked the "Luke, Father? Son" lines as it showed Vader still messing with Luke's head from so far away... had me really anxious for Revenge of the Jedi (as it was then called) to find out if Vader really was as he claimed to be. 8. I did wonder about the slow motion and gritty look to the Magic Tree scene. Not sure why it was like that compared to the rest of the film. But as to cool situations: the rebels lose every single battle throughout the entire film and have to constantly escape. Brilliant! Empire remains my favorite of the original trilogy. But I do love Star Wars (A New Hope) almost equally.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 5:05 a.m. CST

    I like the 65mm Panavision camera....

    by imaxguyaustin

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 5:51 a.m. CST

    a better headline...

    by doober187

    The Behind the Scenes Pic of the Day must do, or do not. There is no try.

  • From 81, 82 maybe.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 6:43 a.m. CST

    Really? I mean... Really??

    by jameskpolk

    We're so committed to finding things to hate about these movies that we are going to criticize Yoda cooking his dinner, and then later dying? As if the script would have been better if, on Luke's first meeting, Yoda announces: "Hi, I'm Yoda, I'll be your mentor this evening. Only I happen to be dying so don't expect me to do anything except lie in bed and wait for death." Give me a freakin' break.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 7:13 a.m. CST

    rupee88

    by NightArrows

    What a twat. Go run in front of a bus, fucktard. Anyone who dumps on Empire and yet claims to love Star Wars is a fucking tool. Bottom line. Empire is perfect, and again, if you disagree then you can run and go fuck yourself. And with regards to Yoda dying...really? We're going to nitpick an alien species and the appropriate duration of sickness to death??? Jesus Christ. I've seen people diagnosed with cancer and die within a month, so please people, pull your heads out of your collective asses and stop nitpicking. And ufoclub1977 you should stop watching films because you don't deserve a movie like ESB. "The light sabre didn't seem mystical anymore, it was used to gut a Taun Taun." Give me a fucking break. That's about the dumbest fuck line I've read in a long time. I guess the "mystical lightsaber" should only be spoken of and never used for anything other than what you dream up in your little mind. Good lord.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Quality

    by fpuk99

    Until CGI gets beyond that clear, antiseptic feel you will never beat a real-life set. Wow!

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Empire grew in stature after the fact

    by Seven_of_Borgnine

    I remember being semi-confused by it at the time (I was 12 or something). The Han-on-Ice cliffhanger, Luke getting his hand chopped off, the good guys running all the time, Han and Leia hooking up after it looked like she and Luke would have 2.5 kids, Yoda's maddeningly Buddhist advice which wasn't what impatient Luke (or boys 13 and under in general) wanted to hear, and of course the Darth Vader revelation at the end, which left us all like Luke (nooo!!! it's a lie!!! etc). It was a lot to take in, and left a sense of genuine unease that lingered for years. It took ROTJ and time to make it clear how great ESB really was. The first time I saw it, I really didn't know where it was going and it actually felt a little dangerous, not just popcorn fun with a stirring medal awards ceremony at the end. I really enjoyed it, but I didn't LOVE it. That came later. I've retro-loved it since. I suspect this is a typical arc for many fans.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Do, or do not. There is no try.

    by Ingeld

    I always hated that line. It is supposed to sound strong and philosophical; yet all it does promote feelings of failure as all of a human life is persistant trying.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 8:43 a.m. CST

    killik

    by orschigh

    I'm sure you've seen Fisher is the new spokes-model for a weight loss company. She's getting into shape for something. It's a *slim* hope to hang our hats on, but it's something.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Asteroid Field

    by Mr Soze

    To me that is pure movie magic...Han and the gang leaving Hoth, escaping the Destroyers making them collide, hyper drive not working, 3po talking about the odds, I know a few manuvers, and John Williams score... That is the Pinnacle of the entire saga

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Irvin Kershner wanted to make more movies

    by trooperprop

    I did meet him and Gary Kurtz years back when they were in the Netherlands (1998 ?). He told that he had no luck getting any money for his own projects. A real shame because he was a great director! He was very enthousiastic about it. I would imagine that Lucas could have helped him out. He will be missed. Greetings, BasD

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 8:52 a.m. CST

    oh, and he did appologies for Robocop 2

    by trooperprop

    He prommised a friend to help him out and made the best of it. Shot in a few weeks sometimes without any script.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 8:54 a.m. CST

    ingeld

    by orschigh

    Regarding, "Do, or do not. There is no try," my take was always that the ability only works if you have complete faith that it will. There is an alchemical principle which parallels this kind of thinking. If you're merely trying, you presuppose doubt. That doubt dooms the effort. The imposition of the will (by one with adequate understanding) cannot fail. It's a very Western, if esoteric, concept. These notions have been improperly distilled in modern times into hollow cliches like, "You can accomplish anything if you believe in yourself."

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 9:34 a.m. CST

    enough of the matrix bts complaints!

    by Mel Garga

    This bitching is getting as bad as that asshole who complains about the lack of Ed Mcmahon obit every time someone dies. Let me save you the time: Keanu with wires attached with various crew looking on.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Slimy? Mudhole? My girlfriend this is!!

    by Teko

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 10:04 a.m. CST

    re: orschigh

    by Ingeld

    I understand the concept; I, however, do not think there exists perfect faith in humans. Doubt is the yin to yang of faith. In truth I would say, there is never simply do or not do; there is only try.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate...

    by darthwaz1

    I LOVE Yoda!!

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 11:54 a.m. CST

    mattmanreturns

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    "When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not!" <br> <br> Yoda didn't die of a sickness, he died of old age.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST

    Wow that's fantastic!!

    by moonlightdrive

    Wish more films went to these lengths with effects. Whoever said they wish Lucas made a film now with the same techniques I second that sentiment.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 10:30 p.m. CST

    well it's time for some fun

    by KilliK

    1. Yoda taught Luke Kung Fu flips and shit and it didn't seem mystical or religious (Ben was much more interesting and compelling). However the floating of the x-wing is a great scene. Ironic to mention the word Kung Fu and continue to say that Luke learning Martial Arts (actually he didnt,he was training his body to make it more flexible and acrobatic) negated the mystical/religious aspect of the Force. Obviously you have never learned about those Shaolin Monks in our real world,eh? 2. Vadar seemed like a cartoon character killing people left and right in a non-disturbing rated G slapstick way (compare to his scenes in Star Wars where he seems brutal)... but his duel with Luke was awesome. i have to agree on this.This was cheap and very old-fashioned trick to make the villain look villainous.It's funny if you think about,that if Vader kept killing his officers with that rate,eventually he would left to drive the star-destroyer.hehe. 3. The worlds seemed like sound stages that were too easily reached. The environments were theatrical as opposed to cinematic. this universe felt small. i disagree.the worlds looked as enormous as they meant to be.but i think i understand why you get this confusion.it's the desert scenery of the first film: a desert creates a stronger impression of openness and scale rather than a swamp where the thick environment creates the feeling of closure and isolation and prevents us from understanding its real vastness. 4. The giant space slug actually made me feel embarrassed (and I was in 5th grade!). It was silly looking, and didn't seem as high brow and impressionistic as things like a skeleton on a dune in the background like in Star Wars. what the hell are you trying to say? 5. Obi-wan was literally a glowing ghost! Silly. it's silly to whine about ghosts in a universe where people get super-powers from an invincible force,silly 6. The light sabre didn't seem mystical anymore, it was used to gut a Taun Taun. yeah,whereas cutting off the hand of a walrus alien does give that mystical edge to the weapon.yeah. 7. The story had weak moments, like the entire wampa scene (which served no story purpose at all), and there were soap opera moments like when it goes "Luke, Father? Son." Luke showcasing how inexperienced and helpless, he still was as a Jedi,and Obi appearing in order to advise him how to complete the training and become a better Jedi so that he could override the difficulties he faces in his life,didnt have anything to do with the movie's story at all,at all. 8. There were not as many cool situations/set pieces like in Star Wars. That hallucinatory fight in the giant tree cave was pure shit with it's made for TV staccato slow motion. not enough pew pew there huh? well at least that scene happened to be the most esoteric scene of the protagonist as characterization goes,so i guess that's something. All the characters were strong however! As was the dialogue. Return of the Jedi is so shitty I can't even watch it these days. I think it's worse than the new movies! And those are truly dysfunctional on story/character level. Star Wars is still my gold standard. And I do kind of wish it had never been followed by any sequels. If you truly believe,and you are not just trolling, that ROTJ is even worse than the PT pile of shit,you cant even comprehend what bad cinema is,so as a whole your opinion is mute.

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Oh no here's where the fun begins

    by ufoclub1977

    1. Kung Fu flips and floating shit was physical bullshit. Likewise I was disappointed in the Marvel adaption of Star Wars that showed Vadar floating a cup around in the conference room death star scene. Star Wars presented a religious view, where voices are heard, and feelings are felt, influences are exerted, and rituals are ancient. It's quite classy. 3. Not just the desert but, Tattoine or however you spell it, had distinctive environments (desert wasteland, canyon, Obi Wan's pad, homestead with its unique "African" culture style, Mos Eisley, the cantina within, Han's hanger), The Millenium Falcon felt like it was traveling great distances, Death Star had distinctive environments (a structured world unto itself) tractor beam shaft, hanger bay, hanger bay control room, trash compactor, prison area, and long hallways to traverse, Yavin had the sound and look of a real jungle, the hanger there seemed cavernous and was in an old stone strucure of a forgotten civilization... see how this is impressionistically bigger and more interesting? If not "to hell with you" - Conan 4. Space slug=tacky, silly, fake < skeleton classy, haunting, realistic like a fossil. Star Wars has this element of older things that are now dead: Giant creatures, abandoned temples, Jedi glory, the Force religion. 5. If you can't see how a glowing ghost completely throws away the christ-like feeling of martyrdom and subsequent haunting "is it real" quality of the voice (Luke almost isn;t sure he's not making the shit up in his head, it has an open to interpretation quality, and that's good writing.) What do we get in Empire? A fucking blue glowing ghost? It's like who cares if you get killed, you just glow and can teleport anywhere. No class - Fat Albert. 6. The light sabre (an ancient out- of- date rare and respected ritualistic weapon) is swiftly wielded by the old man in a cobra strike bad ass move. In Empire, Han commandeers it and slices pen the Taun Taun with asides. Truthfully this is not horrible, but it detroys the mythos of the light sabre that made it seem like rarity, a religious artifact. Don't get me wrong the use of the sabre to cut Lukes hand off is brilliant and on target. 7. Luke seeming helpless and ineffective is what the entire flight form Degobah and subsequent maiming on Cloud City is. There is it done well and works on synch with the rest of the plots as a fluid strong story that is unfolding and a series of cause and effects. The Wampa scene has no complexity, and is just random dilly dallying. Bad screenwriting at the beginning there. 8. The idea of a dreamy hallucinatory scene as a par of cinematic plot vocabulary does not match the style of plot in Star Wars. It just seems like a cheesy part of The Hulk or other 70's style tv fodder. Bad genre cliches. Star Wars was above and beyond that, so why back tread to that sort of stuff? 9. What's PT? I hate these acronymns. ROTJ has bad design, bad action scenes, bad fights, silly costumes and creatures, bad "drama" moments, and just seems to have no scifi sophisticatiion. It's to Star Wars what Conan the Destroyer is to Conan the Barbarian. The prequels at least have a style and intricate texture. Return of the Jedi is like a thin slice of old school Disney produced Star Wars. More simplistic fairy tale. It doesn't feel like the same universe. With the prequels I can ignore the story and still enjoy the colors and textures and designs on an abstract level of a showcase of structures and patterns. With Return of the Jedi, you don't even have that! It's feels like a play. All of this was how I discussed it (outside of comparison to prequels) through the mid 80's. So it's not revisionist thinking on my part.

  • Jan. 29, 2011, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the pic...

    by ChickenStu

    I really can't get enough of "The Empire Strikes Back". I think it's probably the greatest movie EVER made...

  • Jan. 29, 2011, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Has there ever been BTS pics from "E.T"?

    by ChickenStu

    I've got a coffee table book about that movie, and the behind the scenes pics in it are absolutely SENSATIONAL. Be nice to see them on here, if just to generate some discussion about that classic movie (in which I'm well versed... hint hint)

  • Jan. 30, 2011, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Soze

    by Seven_of_Borgnine

    Yes... the entire asteroid sequence (including the S Destroyer escape) is one of the finest moments in all of film... nay, in all of "le cinema" history. Poetry in image and sound, all the way. I've watched that sequence around 500 times more than the rest of the movie, like a good song, I never get sick of it.

  • Jan. 30, 2011, 11:14 a.m. CST

    braindrain.

    by SmokingRobot

    No one expected another Spanish inqui, er, I mean fucking death star.

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