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The Keanu talks MATRIX 4 (3D) & Warners pays $5 million for Wachowski's HOOD starring Will Smith?!?!
Hey folks, Harry here... and it seems "El Nino" was in the ideal place for some pretty monumental news that "The Keanu" dropped into the world! Awesome! I love it when you readers report in from special, off the radar events, like this one!
Personally, I'm jazzed about this HOOD project that gets mentioned. I'd heard that BILL & TED 3 was being enthusiastically developed. And I'm looking forward to basically every project listed below.
Hi guys,
Hope you're feeling better Harry, get well soon!
Long time reader, occasional news feeder. Writing from rainy old London, England. Surprised that no one has commented on this, lucky me I guess. Was lucky enough to attend a key note speech at the London school of performing Arts university and was honoured to be in the same room as Keanu Reeves who was the guest of honour. Keanu was here promoting his new movie Henry's Crime which is opening shortly.
keanu as always was his kind gentle self and spoke to the class for a good 45 mins about his big break in acting and his love for Shakespeare. the floor was then opened for Q&A and the following was note worthy;
- Says he's prepping a action movie around the world of the samurai and that it will be a hard "R" rated 3D action feast that will deliver some great martial art set pieces. he's into 2 months of a 6 month training programme.- Spoke briefly about the possibility of Bill and Ted part 3 - ( Audience started laughing) but he assured us he's committed to the project.
this is where the fun begins. Some great info shared with us good people.....
- Says he met the Wachowski's (no emphasis on the word brothers), for lunch over Christmas and stated that they had completed work on a two picture script treatment that would see him return to the world of the matrix as Neo. Says the brothers have met with Jim Cameron to discuss the pro's and con's of 3D and are looking to deliver something which has never been seen again. keanu stated that he still has an obligation to the fans to deliver a movie worthy of the title "The Matrix" and he swears this time that the treatment will truly revolutionise the action genre like the first movie. Wachowski's are working on a movie called "Cloud Atlas" at the moment, once that concludes they will talk again.
- Keanu spoke about the need to encourage writers to continue to focus on working on new ideas and that a good script was worth its weight in gold. For example he said the Wachowski's had just sold the most expensive script in history to Warner Brothers. a modern futuristic take on the legend of "Robin Hood". Says he understands WB paid $5 million for the rights and that from what the wachowski's have told him, it will be an action movie that would have the same impact visually and technically that Terminator 2 had. Confirmed that Will Smith has agreed ti headline the picture.
that was pretty much it guys, have to give kudos to Mr Reeves. A true gentleman and an esquire.
can't wait for the above to come to fruition. If you use this please refer to me as "El-Nino".
Peace out gents.....
"El-Nino"
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Keanu talks MATRIX 4 (3D), Bill & Ted 3 and Wachowski's HOOD starring Will Smith, that Warners paid $5 million for!
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Despite their obvious flaws, I don't see any need to return to that universe. The ending was an appropriate finish to that universe, one way or another.
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"Whoah."
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I am intrigued by anything these guys do, and yes, Speed Racer is criminally underrated.
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Jan 23, 2011 3:33:56 PM CST
The Matrix films are terrible, but bring on Bill and Ted 3
by the krypton kid
I was baffled that my friends were so caught up in the Matrix phenomenon. Eventually the sequels exposed how lame and pretentious The Matrix actually is.
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The 2nd Matrix movie was pretty damn good. The 3rd one was a bit weak and for some reason everyone lumped it together with the final one as if both sucked. I could easily spend more time in that universe if they had a good intelligent script.
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Reloaded and Revolutions are about as smart as any film ever made but that's the thing: you have to be opened to it to get it. If you are not perceptive to what they are putting out there then you are not going to get it. Those of us who got those films, appreciate the living shit out of the Matrix trilogy. The fact that within this decade there could be a chance to see Neo again, well, that makes me all sorts of happy. Sorry it doesn't do the same for a portion of geeks out there.
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Aw hell naw.
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Welcome to it.
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I used to defend the guy around these parts, but his theft of the Karate Kid name to guarantee a hit for his kid proved what a crooked, egotistical douche he actually is.
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I heard they are working on a ultra futuristic 3-d version of "Glen Or Glenda". Just sold the rights to Warner Brothers for $5 trillion. Supposedly they consulted with James Cameron who just said "wtf?"
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...Just much better overall, worthy of the original...the audience allready gets used to quicky reboots
Oh and please put in a Epic shootout scene in it...even if it would be gratuitous I wont care..
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I like what I've read about Bill&Ted's third romp but revisiting The Matrix really raises my eyebrows.
I didn't care too much for the second Matrix film but I did love about half of the third one. The Zion battle was fantastic (I think it's chapter 18 on the DVD onward if I recall).
I'm all for a fourth and fifth flick if they can stay true to the spirit of the first film.
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He says to focus on new ideas and then talks about another Robin Hood movie? Anyways big Fan of Keanu's and his projects sound interesting.
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Not really like they can ruin the previous films for me
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first one was a classic film and will allways be in my top5 films , the other two had there moments but fell down over the whole zion story , all worth watching just for the action scenes alone. realy hope they make some more
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I thought the wachowski's dropped the ball with the second and third matrix films, but having said that, the prospect of them rectifying the series with another movie excites me. I just hope they don't bring back agent smith as the villain yet again! Plus the Merovingian was turf personified. I just hope they imbue neo with more humanity this time. I LOVED the animatrox. What succeeded about those short films was that they expanded the universe in an exiting way whilst staying true to the quality of the original. Reloaded and revolutions on the other hand overly complicated what should have been a more streamlined action affair. Whilst I'm ranting, they should use bullet tome again. I don't know why they dropped it from the sequels. I understand they thought the effect was cliche, but it was an iconic element of the first film and it comlemented the futuristic sci fi vibe. End of rant.
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I thought the first Matrix was groundbreaking and the sequals failed to live up. The blame for which can be spread The W's may have been pressured to get them out. when you rush creativity the product will lag.
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He is producing a remake of "Back To The Future". Jaden Smith is playing Marty McSupafly and Carl Weathers is playing Doc Brown. I cant wait. I hope he remakes Goonies next. I would love to see the truffle shuffle turn into the hair whip.
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I would like to see more Matrix movies.. I dont think the 3rd movie ended things up nicely at all, there is alot of question in mind in what exactly happened to Neo because he didnt die.
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I agree with you in regards to Speed Racer. Love that film and the soundtrack is excellent. As the for the Matrix, the first was excellent, the second was pretty good but the third totally lost the plot. I honestly think they just ran out of ideas or the script wasn't completely finished when they shot it. It was just so disjointed and convoluted. I'd be up for more Matrix if they brought in characters that were allowed to show emotion and who don't wear sun glasses in fucking dark sewers and warehouses.
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The CG also ruined a lot of the sequels for me, the replacement for Gloria Foster (the Oracle) Mary Alice was terrible, the '"rave" was shite, Smith stopped being sinister and turned into a caricature... the first matrix was amazing though!
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The article states, "...return to the world of The Matrix as Neo," and "...deliver a movie worthy of the title The Matrix". Honest.
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It worked for one film, but every attempt to expand on the idea was a mess, and that includes the anime stuff. Let it go.
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The article clearly talks about Keanu returning to the world of The Matrix as Neo. How much clearer could it get?
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That was an eye-melting experience, especially the last couple minutes of that grand prix race at the end, I felt like I had been taken to another dimension. Has the movie attained cult status yet?
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is that they make Lucas' Star Wars sequels look marvelous by comparison.
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Loved the Matrix movies. I also loved how the Architect just blew everyone's minds and made everyone hate Reloaded! Har har, you people are dumb!
Anyway, I always felt that Revolutions left us with a rather tenuous ending that would one day return to the machines ruling over mankind again. I was hoping for a more definitive ending where everyone wakes up and starts rebuilding the real world.
If this is true and Neo is going to return, my mind races wonder how? Will he be cloned? Revived? Was never really dead to begin with? Hmmm... -
Like Robin Hood... wtf
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Amen.
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I'm not kidding any of you. Matrix 4!!! FUCK ALL YOU ASSHOLES!!! I LOVED THE TRILOGY!!! Sure I'll agree with many criticisms of the films and I highly agree the first film is still head and shoulders above the sequels, but man... the sequels, for whatever problems they had are still awesome and oozed ambition and I still think about them every now and then... I highly welcome a Matrix 4! The Matrix: Remains!!! Holy shit! This made my day! And given how much bank the sequels made despite critical reception I see no reason why WB wouldn't greenlight this specially when we will all show up for bullet time sequences in 3-D and I can't wait to see what the Wachowskis pull off now that they have access to James Cameron's virtual cinematography toys! Maybe we'll get some more anime shorts too. The Matrix begs to be explored with contributions from other creative people. Get Pixar, Mamorou Oshii, Hideaki Anno, Studio Ghibli, Gainax etc to contribute get Studio 4C to return and let the good times roll!
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Maybe this time they could add the vampires and werewolves that were missing from the sequels that disappointed Harry so.
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It's just thats it completely different to nearly anything out there. Fair enough, the acting isn't exactly the greatest but that film sure had a hell of a lot of spirit and the visuals were excellent. Bright, cartoonish and flamboyant, just how it should have been. Seeing that film in the cinema and on blu ray nearly makes you eyes melt.
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So do they mean they will use other peoples special effects breakthroughs to make it as technically impressive as T2?
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SPEED RACER was the last revolutionary 'mainstream' effects-driven film I saw. Nothing has come close to it for inventiveness. It also has a lot of heart. I've turned dozens of people on to it, who at first wrote it off as being pretty drivel and didn't bother to see it. It is a genuine masterpiece and I will defend that statement until the end of time.
I'm always up for more Wachowski stuff. I don't feel the MATRIX universe left enough unturned than now needs turning, but I'll give it a shot.
HOOD, CLOUD ATLAS -- sure. Will Smith can be a great actor. From what very little I've read about CLOUD ATLAS, it seems like a dense, interesting project.
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He has just gotten steadily more terrible as his career has gone on and now he's not just unleashing, he's FORCING his children upon society. I avoid all Will SMith movies the same way I do Ashton Kutcher movies.
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Where's our Anime guro? I haven't heard anything from this project and I was honestly really looking forward to seeing him as Spike.
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I dig that you don't like Will Smith, but if your reason is because of his son in The Karate Kid, that's bs because that movie surprised just about everyone by being a success.
I haven't seen it myself, but Jaden clearly had quite a bit to do with that film working.
Sure there are those that remember the original and its sequel, though I suspect that those numbers would not be enough to make the film successful.
Besides, I am not quite getting the hate. You act as if this is the first act of nepotism you have ever seen.
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That's what it sounds like the Wachowskis are developing... LOL, another gem from our childhood's past...
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Jan 23, 2011 4:29:06 PM CST
Seriously...Matrix 2+3 made The Phantom Menace look good
by smokingrobot
Christ. Those two movies were the worst sequels fucking EVER. EVER. And the first movie was so good. What a total waste. If they could make another good Matrix movie it would be a good thing. But I think we'll see a good Star Wars movie from GL before we see a another good Matrix movie.
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I had just about written of the Wachowski siblings after second two Matrices, but Speed Racer proves that they still have the ability to be visually inventive.
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First you said the article doesn't mention a Matrix sequel. (Wrong, it does. Two of them, in fact.) Then you say Keanu only might return, which confirms the article indeed mentions a Matrix sequel. So which is it, Braindead? How are you going to tap dance your way out of this one?
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I felt so abused by the 2nd and 3rd ones that I have zero desire see a forth thank you.
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Um braindrain.... lean how to read, "they had completed work on a two picture script treatment that would see him return to the world of the matrix as Neo"
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Learn how to read, "they had completed work on a two picture script treatment that would see him return to the world of the matrix as Neo"
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i think thats pretty much a majority vote. You could see from the box office drop on the third one that people felt screwed by the second. For a franchise that released two films so close together, the drop in box office was massive.
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It was always too cool for me.
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seems like the same guy, drawing the same kind of ire and disdain, making the same kind of irrelevant pointless posts
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I truly admire your spirit but you need to give that dream up. I've been a Stargate fan for a long time but even i know it like beating a dead horse. Stargate has nothing left to give in the near future.
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Thats the samurai film that was mentioned here. Looking forward to that more than anything. Loved the book!
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I didn't hate the second and third ones, but they had the hard task of following up on what the original delivered. That is no easy feat. Hopefully, if they do a fourth film, they can take some time to do a good script FIRST and then make the movies. I actually enjoyed The Animatrix surprisingly. I don't really get into that anime stuff. Just not my thing. But I'll be first to admit that I'd buy a ticket to a fourth Matrix movie. And a Bill and Ted 3. Will Smith as Hood? Hmmmmm... Not so much.
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Every single post from you has some "they should do this but with STARGATE!!!" nonsense in it.
Not even the Browncoats were that nuts.
I'm beginning to think you are not an actual person, but a "Stargate"-seeding bot that was never turned off when that franchise died. -
Wow, my interest in the project just shot up a hundred fold. RONIN was the first thing I ever read of Miller. Very cool.
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thats pretty bad when people can properly guess a idiot is a certain idiot from the past. change your handle to something Sherlock-related because you sir, are a master of deduction (no sarcasm, Im truly complimenting you (even though what i just said in the parenthesis sounds more sarcastic))
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These two seem to be like the bigfoot of the movie world. They are always talked about as movie-making geniuses...but you almost never see them!
Like during the Speed Racer making-of's and promotions. Aside from the cast and Joel Silver, the Wachowski's never stepped forward. I'm of the persuasion that these two were some kind of smoke and mirrors by Joel Silver as a way to get some of the crazier ideas of his made. -
...but 16 year olds thought it "Waz Orsum"
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I have asked him about his age before, but he didnt reply. If it turns out he isnt old enough to buy rated R tickets, then I would stop harassing him. if he turns out to be at least 18, then I will still continue to wish he can commit suicide.
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Watch the last few seconds of the final race in Speed Racer on Bluray with your face just a few feet away from your LCD screen. It's a high without drugs. Zzzzang... it sends a chill up my spine.
I'm up for another Matrix. The W's just need to roll back the pretentiousness a bit. The movies had some great stuff in them, but just went a few steps too far over the "bullshit" line.
And CGI of the time couldn't quite pull off a convincing Neo.
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The Wachowski's are a private people. Largely, I would assume, because Larry transitioned.
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and go back to kicking ass. But all of the future Wachowski movies hype are based on the special effects it will have. What about the fucking story! Looking good is not enough anymore. CG has neared its limit of what it can do already. The final step that hasn't been achieved yet is eliminating the uncanny valley. Only that will manage to impress viewers. Other than that, we've seen it all already. And 3D is shit.
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It's been several years since The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions. For anyone to say people who don't appreciate those films "just doesn't get them" is wrong. The Matrix established a visually awe inspiring concept with a succinct mythos that didn't get in the way of the fun spirit of the film.
2-3 completely let the mythos become convoluted and ultimately take the spirit of the first Matrix perpetually hostage -- including ending the series with some bullshit peace treaty and an ambiguous resolution for Neo. When I saw Revolutions in theaters, fans had so soured of the bullshit the Wachowski's had fed them in Reloaded and Revolutions, my fellow audience members actually cheered when Trinity died. Cheered?!
But I think a return to the world would be awesome. Geeks are forgiving people, especially in a world where a single bad film in a franchise automatically triggers a complete reboot. Give us the same world established in the original, give the film the same gutsiness it takes to refrain from pushing the "reboot" button, and fans will flock to see it. Even before IMAX and 3D became popular, the Matrix films were a visual feast all by themselves. Newer film innovations can only enhance that awesomeness.
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Thats a very elegant way of putting it. Makes it sound peaceful and relaxing when i have no doubt it would be a painful experience.
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theres a TBer here named yourstepdaddy the fag? I dont have a problem with homosexuals (unless Ryan the Retard is one) but if he is gonna use my handle as apart as his, I wanna sue his faggy ass
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I can buy that people trapped together in a cave like that are multi-ethnic and have orgy parties at the drop of a hat, but the council of elders seemed like they just copied a random planet-of-the-week government from Star Trek: a bunch of people in robes making pronouncements from a long table. Look, we're just supposed to be happy people are surviving, so let's not push our luck and say it's Utopia too. Wherever humans go, petty corruption follows. They showed traitors but not people who just fuck up, fail to care, and force you to prove to yourself that it's worth surviving. If Zion had been more credible, socially, I don't think my patience would have been taxed as much.
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I wasn't happy with the last two, they didn't live up to anything for me, and maybe that's my fault. I doubt new movies will do better, and heck they may even do worse, but that's up to them. I don't think that new movies could diminish my opinions of the people who made the last two though. The Warchowski bros just aren't on the list of directors/filmmakers that I find reliably entertaining. Matrix was damned good though, so if there's even chance that could happen again, or just be proven again to be a fluke, then so be it. Honestly I have no interest in more Bill and Ted. I just can't imagine that being so popular. I get Indiana Jones, I even get Tron, but Bill and Ted? I'd take a sequel to Weird Science or Baron Munchausen first.
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Good god man, they put you under first!
In my university days I knew someone who was transitioning F-M. Just from what they said, I think the pain of changing pales in comparison to the sense that you are finally in the right body. -
Why else would he be here?
Anyways, as I said back when he was Lockes, he's harmless. -
Jan 23, 2011 5:35:26 PM CST
The next Matrix movie will be produced by Will Smith and star Jaden Smith.
by mike_d
as the new chosen one.
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or make the TBs stop workin or whitescreen of death or whatever crap we was saying? what if, the only way to reach that end is to have Harry make a TB about Ryan the Retard (braindrain)?
I can GUARANTEE you, the server will crash if Harry ever did that.
so with that said, does anyone have Harrys address? Im sure if I send him an action figure he will be more than willing to make a braindrain TB -
Jan 23, 2011 5:39:17 PM CST
Bound and The Matrix were two of the greatest filmgoing experiences of my life
by yaroh_meringue
The Matrix 2 & 3 were among the worst.
More androgynous, super-powered crypto-lesbians in black rubber fetishwear & less characters-whose-backstory-was-mostly-covered-in-a-video-game-I-didn't-play fighting a cartoon war against robot octopus thingys. -
Was if it had Kurt Russell and James Spader, and completely ignored the "TV-ness" of the shitty television shows.
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People have had 17 years to love Stargate. Face it, it's over. It was great while it lasted but there are only so many times you can rewrite the same story into a new episode
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See I've already forgotten ... THAT'S how interesting it was.
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WOW, you actually said somethin I can agree with (about DVade bein the best TBer)...
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-Another BILL AND TEDS ADVENTURE won't happen. That time is way past.
-$5 million for a futuristic take on ROBIN HOOD?! Man, why couldn't they just use the same story but relocate everything to the future? Castle becomes space station, etc. WB must have cash to burn.
-More MATRIX, yeah sure - why not? I thought all 3 films were pretty similar on a quality level.
-Keanu as a Samurai in an R Rated flick - this is the news that gets me most excited!
-Braindrain, the most disliked talkbacker? Nope, not in this dojo. He's quick to hate on the movies but he rarely makes personal insults unlike many others.
-D.Vader is one of the best talkbackers around - yes of course! Now in his honor let's play out with the Imperial March...
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I am not interested in another Matrix or Bill & Ted movie. I am also not interested in a futuristic Robin Hood tale. How about something completely new?
Also, just a little pet peeve of mine: I am dismayed at the proliferation of people using " 's " when pluralizing. Words do not need an apostrophe to be pluralized, just an "s" or "es". There are exceptions, of course, but none of them include using " 's ". -
He was ten kinds of awesome in Bogus Journey, and reaping burns a lot of calories!
Seriously, I'm actually MORE excited about another Bill and Ted movie then a Matrix sequel, even though I would LOVE to see another Matrix movie done right.
But really, who says we can't have both? The great thing about both movies is that they are both sagas in which the main protagonist is played by Reeves, and you can literally do as many movies with him staring as these characters until the day he dies!
Imagine in thirty or even forty years from now, if Keanu is still around, you could make another brand new Bill and Ted or Matrix movie that stars him and ISN'T a remake but a true sequel, though in the case of Bill and Ted, it would only work if Alex Winters was still alive as well. -
I dont see how a stranger can harm me through typing. Maybe Im invulnerable to that type of harm?
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They should so make this!!!!!!!!!
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Funny how some of you are acting like you never drool once while watching The Matrix films nor even care about the sequels!
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....and we'll talk.
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Jan 23, 2011 6:59:39 PM CST
makniel, there was no reason to call it "The Karate Kid"
by the krypton kid
Seeing as how Kung Fu was what the kid practiced.
Will Smith's scheme was to exploit the bankability of the iconic Karate Kid name to guarantee a hit for his kid. I've heard of nepotism happening in Hollywood, but nothing on that scale.
And there's no way that movie made money on the star-power of Jaden Smith. The Karate Kid is iconic and a "remake" is a guaranteed hit. And the only reason there was a remake was because Will Smith wanted a star-making vehicle for his kid.
And the "remake" stunk. It was a soulless copy of the soulful original. Unlike the original, the acting felt forced and the storytelling lacked charm. It was cliche-ridden crap, as well as Smith family and Chinese government propaganda. If people liked that garbage, it's because of the diminished standards of modern film audiences. -
it goes about waist high on CSI.
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Loved Matrix Revolutions. Yeah. I know. I'm weird.
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reminds me of that guy DZ/Kakihara from the Hollywood Elsewhere talkbacks. The two of them team up, they could be the Kurtzman-Orci of internet film talk cluelessness.
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Bring it on, I say. Can't be any worse than any of the other shit we get shoveled every year.
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Jan 23, 2011 7:24:15 PM CST
"I've heard of nepotism happening in Hollywood, but nothing on that scale."
by yourstepdaddy
no, I think you just mean you never seen nepotism with a person of color... Im sure when Suri Cruise is old enough, she will star in Cluelesslier and no one would bitch (except homophobes... not to say that Sir Thomas is a homosexual)
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there needs to be more orgies... also, have Lawrence Fishburnes daughter play the gangbangee...
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I coudn't believe the disparity in quality between them and the first movie, but I guess that's not surprising seeing how they were filmed back to back and as big as they were, they still had to be economic within their budget. Remember that last shot with the rainbow over the city in revolutions? HIDEUS!
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The Matrix sequels, combined, had maybe a half hour of fun.
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Give it up man. Ryan the Retard will not answer your questions. Probably because he does not understand them. We should pity the poor thing.
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You made Braindrains day by addressing him and sorta making him sound like not such an asshole. You, my friend, are one charitable dude.
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"Um, there's no Mention of Matrix anywhere in that article"
what are you, blind? it blatantly says:
"a two picture script treatment that would see him return to the world of the matrix as Neo"
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the record holder for the highest paid for a script remains M Night Shyamalan for The Village. $7 million. let's please not derail and start on the man, just making a correction.
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OH MY GOD.
Matrix 4 and 5!??!?! FUCK YES!
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are you stupid, or just being willfully ignorant or trolling? what do you think "return to the world of the matrix as neo" means? he starred as neo in the 3 matrix films...now, listen carefully, im going to explain it like you're a five year old...if the same character returns to the same world of the movie, it would be the next sequential number in the series, which is 4...the matrix 4, which comes after 3. it can't be a prequel, because he only became neo in the first film.
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and i was wondering a few days ago how came and Hollywood didnt announced a new Matrix yet.HA. you got love those greedy,uninspired bastards who run the movie industry and especially the W bro who dont have a solid hit since well the Matrix movies.
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first you said it doesn't mention the matrix, now you're saying it doesn't say matrix 4...you've been proven wrong twice, you're just trolling at this point and embarrassing yourself...you're the only one disputing the obvious.
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of course they're going back to the well...the matrix universe is a guaranteed cash machine...their other movies have sucked, so they want some more credibility back and some more cash, since they've probably spent all of it on hookers and blow.
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Is this dead? I know they're still trying to shop it around, but it's the most aggressively uncommercial thing I've ever read. And that unfortunately isn't a plus.
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and belong to the category of sequels which destroyed royally the appeal and quality of new coming,promising franchises like for example Highlander 2,Robocop2,Flynt2,etc
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movie together? they love japanime,you are perfect for the role of Spike aaand if the W can find money to make a new piece of shit Matrix,i think they can be able to pull together the necessary budget for a decent Bebop movie.
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I hadn't put much thought into it before, but the fact that nobody in the Matrix mattered at all in the sequels did make for a major disconnect for the audience. The world as we know it was completely abandoned in favor of that Zion crap and bizarre clubs and such in the Matrix.
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suddenly the crowd discovered nepotism in Hollywood because a black man decided to use his power to help his kids to make their own career there.something that has never happened before in Hollywood,never,never,never.
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Jan 23, 2011 8:09:30 PM CST
"The world as we know it was completely abandoned in favor of that Zion crap and bizarre clubs and such in the Matrix"
by killik
you just described one of the major flaws of Tron Legacy...
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Jan 23, 2011 8:10:50 PM CST
braindrain needs to drain some brains
by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights
"they had completed work on a two picture script treatment that would see him return to the world of the matrix as Neo". What the fuck do you think those two movies featuring Keanu Reeves as Neo from THE MATRIX are going to be?
MATRIX 6 and MATRIX 7? MATRIX 3 And A Half, and MATRIX 3 And Two Thirds?
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Jan 23, 2011 8:12:58 PM CST
I REMEMBER READING ABOUT MATRIX CREW COMPARING THEIR TRILOGY TO STAR WARS PREQUELS
by meadowe
They were talking bout how their fliqs, although containing a lot of special fx, were concentrated primarily on the story and then the cgi, and how the prequels were the opposite. While I thinq they had the best intentions, almost every set of sequels filmed back to back have been sorely lacking imo. Hopefully the wachowskis will have a better set of fliqs this time.
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and are given the same carte blanche freedom they had on the sequels...i dont have much hope for these being any good. the first matrix was great bc it was in development for so long, they honed that script until it was a fucking diamond...then in the sequels they could do whatever they wanted so they shot the first draft.
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Jan 23, 2011 8:14:01 PM CST
BTW, DOES two picture script MEAN THEY'RE REBOOTS OF RELOADED AND REVOLUTIONS?
by meadowe
cuz that would be crazy and awesome at the same time.
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the too many toi mention flaws of the sequels aside, i was waiting for a cool twist at the end of Revolutions - e.g. if itd had all been revealed to be a drug induced hallucination from when he swallowed the red pill from Morpehous in part 1 (tieing in with the end of Alice in WL which the film frequently references)... A new mind drug that targets your secret fantasys and makes them seem real to you - in this case a boring office geek think hes kung fu kicking saviour of mankind in a Terminator-esque future...a wishful fantasy that many a Sci Fi obsessed geek secretly yearns for (wouldve tied in with all the Anderson asleep scenes in the first part of the movie)
or maybe - at the end we find out that the real world was also a matrix within the matrix (hence why he could use his powers outside the matrix at the end of part 2) - last scene of the 3rd film is Neo asleep in another pod....he never left the matrix . They could have called Matrix Reloaded - Matrix ‘2’ (matrix within a matrix) and Matrix Revolutions - Matrix ‘3’ (as that film could have dealt with the matrix within a matrix within a matrix) - as Morpheous says in Matrix 1 - I’ll show you how deep the rabbit hole goes….
Anything twisty and Twilight Zoney like that really - id have liked that instead of the stupid Aliens rip off playing everything straight like a typical boring action movie - starring Mrs Will Smith (cos along with Link and his wife that’s who were were REALLY interested in seeing right?)
In fact some of the stuff and ideas in Inception was along the lines of what i was hoping to see in the matrix sequels.... -
hahaha
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I always hear from people like you that Ill be first in line for any crap that's popular, but you do realize that isn't true, right? I still haven't seen Transformers 2 for instance. I only just recently saw Wolverine Origins on television. And I didn't see either Matrix sequel in theaters.
It's entirely possible for people to comment on these major films and not anxiously await them. Is this not true in your experience? If Justin Beiber comes up in conversation, do you say how much he sucks and then camp out all night to buy tickets to his concerts? Will you be first in line for his film? -
Speed Racer is a great movie. Can't say much else that hasn't been said, just feel the need to login and show Speed Racer some love whenever it comes up. I absolutely love that movie on blu-ray.
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They only actually got involved in making one movie following Matrix 2/3, which bombed, undeservedly I might add, as Speed Racer was bloody brilliant.
The other two films they were involved in were V for Vendetta, which did well enough, and rumors that they had some hand or the other in Ninja Assassin, which was shit, but that was mostly McT's fault.
But other than Speed Racer I've seen no other major attempts on their part to try and aim for a Matrix like hit. I don't think even they were expecting that from Speed Racer, other than it doing resonably well enough for a campy anime adaptation.
All I'm saying is that saying they haven't had a hit since the Matrix under this sort of context is a pretty poor attempt at a put down... Try the one where one of them is an alleged transvestite. That one seems to work better without really saying anything at all... -
I truly drank the Kool-Aid when Reloaded came out, saw it a half-dozen times in theatres between regular screenings and IMAX. I was pretty disappointed in Revolutions' lack of clarity.
I wish the 3rd Matrix movie had been called Matrix Resolution and really tied up things. I'm not against further sequels, but they will be sequels to Matrix Revolutions... -
This is the first time a sequel or sequels can effectively and organically be written off as the hero's "bad dream".
If Neo never left the Matrix (as suggested by the fact he retained his powers and that Smith was able to follow him into "the real world") then maybe he never really died - he just got his avatar rebooted.
This premise has been popular fanwank/justification/wishful thinking for years now but it could make for a legitimately interesting continuation of the series if the whole gargantuan and improbable (not to mention dull) war with the machines was revealed to be just another video game to con the humans into accepting pacification.
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I love readin Tea Partiers comments when it comes to Sir William Smith... I wonder if that jackass has negative thoughts about George Bush Sr and his progeny...
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Jan 23, 2011 8:21:12 PM CST
"looking to deliver something which has never been seen again"
by immortal_fish
I call those "loads." I'd also ascribe that term to these projects.
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but Ryan the Retard aka stupid shit aka braindrain is a clear example of a troll... I wish we could find a picture of him to put into the dictionary
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building on what i was saying at the end of my previous post - -Just after the Matrix came out I surfed the web looking for clues as to what the Matrix sequel would be like (like Neo trying to figure out what the matrix was in the first movie) I found a blog that supposdly gave away spoilers to Matrix Reloaded.
Almost everything I saw in inception I remember reading on this blog in around 2000.
Needless to say the real Matrix Reloaded was just an action movie with no real plot and nothing in Inception resembles Reloaded.
in the blog the writer told how there would be a Matrix with-in the matrix and that Neo and Trinity and the team would travel down many levels of the matrix. The further they would travel, the more time would phase in between levels of the matrix‘s. Neo, Trinity and the team learned to have more power in the lower levels and trinity learns how to fold space with her mind. Just like how Ellen Page folded the city in Inception. The team learn to walk among agents and fool them into thinking they were in pods in the power plants. But certain actions would awaken agents and make them suspicious. Just like the people projections in Inception.
One other thing. In this blog it stated that Trinity was actually an agent and was leading Neo and the team to their doom. --- the situation with Mal is a little similar...
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To paraphrase Gay Perry, look up the definition of troll in the dictionary and you'd find the definition of troll which is what he fucking is.
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soon as I get some marijuana, Im writing a screenplay called Ryan the Retard. I have so much material I can use such as the main characters inability to read or comprehend simple sentences and the lack of ingenuity when it comes to "insulting" people.
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I would love for them to make up for the last Matrix movie. If they can come up with a script that makes us use our brain again and kind of creates that cool mindscrew that the first one did, I say go for it.
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Kevin Flynn is the original architect of the Matrix which was the upgraded version of his Grid project.well?
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during the time when the speculations about what the the M2's story would be about, started.
it's exactly how you described it,in fact after Inception premiered,there were many people who mentioned the similarities between the Inception and that script.
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have faith in the human race
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Ive never seen a post from that guy, but from what you described Ryan, he seems cool and no where near retarded, which is perfectly fine in this type of environment. Because ya know, most "fags" can read and dont make idiotic comments about stuff that is clearly written in the article.
But hey, Im tolerant of the gay folks. not really tolerant of illiterate retards though.
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The 2-part Animatrix episodes of The Second Rennaisance, about the rise of the machines and their city Zero One is the best part of the Matrix-verse that could be expanded into a feature film. Maybe do two films, the first one focusing on the war and downfall of mankind, then the second one could show the early versions of the matrix and humanity's enslavement in it.
Otherwise, unless they are going to start fresh with new characters and set these new films after Revolutions, I just don't see much need to bring back Neo.
And I'm a big fan of all three films and the Animatrix too. I just don't want the matrix films to end up like the Star Wars prequels, or see unnecessary sequels that don't add anything worthwhile to the overall mythos of the series (examples: T3, Salvation, Alien Resurrection, Indy 4). -
Meadowe would be so proud of you!
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I apologize for all my posts involving Ryan the Retard. I clearly have no self restraint when it comes to retarded people on the internet. I am working on that and hope to be able to ignore such retardedness in the future.
Sincerly,
yourstepdaddy
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It would just be him walking around, telling people that they, "Muh-muh-muh-muh-make [him] haaaaappyyyy."
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Would love for them to happen. And come on people, the action and fight sequences in the sequels were great. It's just that the philosophy got amped up to a 11 where it should have been at around 4.
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Don't let the Speed franchise die with that stupid sequel on the boat. Only YOU Keanu can save it. With a little help from Sandy as well.
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"Well the pros of using 3d are that it lets really coo' scenes pop out at the audience. Another is that you can make a hequva lot more $ cuz tickets willl be more expensive. You'll beat that Nolan dude's @$$ real quick even if he resurrected Heath for tdkr! The cons are that a lot of people thinq it's just a gimmiq. And cuz of the recession 3d isn't a guarantee to overwhelming success, i.e. tron legacy. Not much $ in the economy means people wil lwait for the fliq to come to home video, and they won't be waiting to watch on a home theatre 3d screen either. Also, there's...hey Lana, do you worq out? Cuz you so totally got a Linda Hamilton t2 Judgment day thing goin' on."
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As in David Mitchell's Man Booker winning novel? I don't see how the hell the Wachowski's can make a novel close in epic scale to a religious text into a film?
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Jan 23, 2011 9:16:00 PM CST
I just don't want the matrix films to end up like the Star Wars prequels
by killik
like Matrix 2,3 did?
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rave partying in caves and under the light of candles in an orgy innuendo sequence while you are in the brink of annihilation and watching an emotionless faggot having sex with his girl who supposedly loves,are not exactly philosophy stuff..
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i agree
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i have read it,i have seen it mentioned in movie magazines when the talking for the M2 sequel started,and i think i might even have a copy of it but i have to dig a lot to find it.
the description is exactly that: matrix levels within matrix levels with their own pacing of time,Trinity gaining the ability to distort space,etc
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I read "Cloud Atlas" by David Mitchell a few years ago.
It's a pretty unique type of book -- a blend of thriller, sci-fi, historical romance, set over a span of 5 or 6 centuries. It's hard to imagine it being filmed, but a check at IMDB says Tom Twyker, Ian McKellen, Tom Hanks and Natalie Portman are now connected with it. -
Reloaded & Revolutions are awesome, fuck whatcha heard. I got into the philosophical & allegorical elements big time. "Neo, I believe" was pretty cheesed-dick but whatevs. I'll get down with another Matrix movie, no doubt.
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yeah someone had to say that..
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Jan 23, 2011 9:35:27 PM CST
"I got into the philosophical & allegorical elements big time."
by killik
no wonder boring pretentious shit like Inception are considered masterpieces.sigh..
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Wachowski Brother and Transgender Brother...
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wouldnt that make him... you know... a homosexual?
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Jan 23, 2011 9:46:35 PM CST
I've never seen Harry not excited about a project coming up.
by tamethecunt
It never fails.
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so dioxholsters head will explode from excitement so that I will never have to hear a him pimping that shitty syfy show ever again.
Has there ever been someone on the TBs so obsessed with a crappy show that originated with one of the all time hacks (emmerich) that finds a way to bring it up in any and all TBs and someone he can equate stargate with any other sci-fi/fantasy universe?
Theres sad and theres sad, and then theres just fucking pathetic.
And Diox crossed that line about 1000 Stargate posts ago..... -
the Matrix sequals, not love, but I respect the sheer ambition that they were going for.
I will never understand the sheer amount of shit they get, seems to have a fair amount to do with how many fanboys feel personally about the Wachowskis.
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properly, you did not like the matrix sequals lol.....
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just ripping off the power loader from Aliens? Thus was nt Cameron just ripping himself off?
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I would be okay with that. As long as this time, they did not suck.
Actually, 2 was intriguing and maybe would have seemed good in hindsight if 3 would have delivered. But as we all know, it did not. -
The movie where a bunch of people who weren't in the first movie shoot at a hole in the ceiling for 45 minutes.
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Surely there must be some new development in your health that you could have dropped into this update.
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Is to show Neo comatose, still plugged in. The machines created a seperate, alternate Matrix where Neo believed he fought and sacrificed himself after agreeing to a peace treaty but it was all a lie. Somehow Neo needs to escape the alternate matrix world and help awaken a new generation of human batteries being used by the original Matrix reality. Spend at least 3 years honing the script make it a mind bending journey with tricks and turns along the way and you might finally have a sequel worthy of the original.
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is the fact its a setup to a third movie... remember when one movie was just one movie, and not a lead in to a second movie?
maybe its me, but movies shouldnt have cliffhangers...
would you want to watch a porno that said TO BE CONTINUED instead of showing the actor/actress climax?
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as Avatar is concnerned,but lets hold our horses a bit.JC is a genius but even geniuses sometimes disappoint..
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the new Dr Who comic with the 11th doctor,issue no1,has an almost complete rip-off of the Sulako..
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So the continued lack of imagination from Hollywood goes on.
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i though they had the same "helicopter front" design like the Avatar ones.damn i have forgotten the Matrix sequels completely..
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I even watched it again sober with my dad and loved it just as much. That movie had 10 times more heart than matrix 2&3. Speaking of I watched matrix1 & 2 back2back on tnt and man the first had so much more to offer than the sequel. I get the philosophy and themes but really the cinematography, script and acting was so dull and bland compared to the original. Morpheus looked fatter and kept sucking in his cheeks for some reason. The exposition scene with neo and oracle was way to cryptic. "We're all here to do what we're all here to do." what the fuck oracle?
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Im down for this! But can they get Laurence Fishburne and some of the others who have aged a bit since back into shape for it?
Best news this year yet. -
it's better to start something from scratch rather than repeating it while trying to remove the previous stench that it caused.
but i would love to see a true T3 sequel because the story already exists for it from the two previous movies.it only remains to complete it and close the circle. -
Jan 23, 2011 10:25:00 PM CST
All poor sequels should be re-done by turd_has_risen_from_the_gravy
by pvttouch
Superman Returns.
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I was expecting a stalactite to drop on his head after he announced the war was over.
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As a fan of the Matrix movies I would like the Wachowskis to leave well enough alone. The only way I would like to see two more Matrix films in 3d is if they were remakes of the original movies. 2d to 3d conversions are pretty much reviled so that is what I would imagine the Wachowsks would do.
I actually have been working on a fan edit of Reloaded and Revolutions, editing them into one 2-3 hour film, and incorporating scenes used in the video game and the animated movies. I call it 'The Matrix Remixed'. I've got a number of clips on YouTube at the link below:
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wow, this is legitimately surprising news, I never thought we'd see The Matrix continue and personally, I'm all for it
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I was actually hoping the Cowboy Bebop movie would happen
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After the ambitious, yet still disappointing, Revolutions, I'm of the mindset that we deserve another Matrix film that lives up to the promise of the first. The most exciting part of the first Matrix was the last few moments, when we're teased with the idea that Neo is about to free several people from the Matrix himself. That's what was really exciting. The whole Neo flying bit was just icing on that cake. However, the sequels seemed more fixated on his powers then the human story that was told to get him to his powers. When Revolutions ended and we were left with a peace between the two sides, I personally felt jipped because the first film left us to believe that the endgame wasn't peace, it was freedom. And let's not even talk about the Looney Toons cartoon that Neo was stuck in for the first twenty minutes. Reloaded got a little off course, but it still left us with a lot to be excited about. Revolutions deflated that excitement with poor story decisions. As someone else said, the Matrix ceased to be a functioning world and became a set piece. The only real saving grace is that the ending left plenty questions to be explored, the most important being "What happens when the machines get too weak from letting humans go free?"
The Matrix 4 is actually, unlike other unecessary sequels, highly necessary to restore the franchise back to its original praise and wash the bad taste of Revolutions out of the mouths of the mainstream public. And no, it's not because I didn't "get" it. I got it. I just didn't like it. Much like X-Men 3. The Last Stand was nothing compared to its previous installments and I find it hard to believe anyone thinks otherwise. Singer leaving that franchise was destructive not only to the X-Men films, but the Superman films as well as they're only NOW working on another film for that character. I think this is something Singer realizes as well which is why he is producing First Class and very likely to return to make another X-Men film of his own once his current movie is done filming. Thankfully, much like Revolutions, X3 made it possible for most, if not all, of the plot points in the film to be undone so making a proper X-Men 3 under the guise of X-Men 4 won't be that difficult and we can finally get a proper film that lives up to the quality of the first two.
There are unnecessary sequels and their are chances for redemption. I think, in the case of the Matrix, we're looking at the latter. If Keanu actually made the statements this article claims he did, I think he sees it that way as well. -
For such a visually groundbreaking series, and for as intelligent and quirky as the Wachowskis are, there's some real lame ass cliche bullshit in that trilogy, and I'd really love for them to revisit this fascinating universe they've created, and weed out all the BS. Things that are fucking stupid about The Matrix:
The Council. There was a time in the early 2000's where I think every science fiction/fantasy film had to have a Council of elders, and it's fucking lame and fucking cliche. LOTR'S, the Prequels, Matrix, etc. Boring boring BORING. The whole Zion thing was stupid.
Why do people in the future always wear fucking togas and wizard's robes? LAME. Ditch that shit!
The Prophecy and the Chosen One. I realize this is a classic plot device, but I feel that's just a nice way of saying played out, overused, and tired. I never want to see another movie where the main character was prophesied billions of years ago to save the day. It's not mysterious or cool. It's childish, unimaginative, and boring.
FUCK THE ORACLE. It's bad enough to shove all your exposition down my throat all at once, but quit trying to be all philosophical about it. I don't mimd being forced to think, the problem is that the psychobabble in the last two films was unintentionally hilarious. "Am I real?" "I don't know. ARE you real? Is anything real? Did I even REALLY ask you that? Can you PROVE I'm even here?" Get the fuck out with that shit. I thought there was an impending apocalypse? Are we really going to dick around at the end of the world with fortune cookie riddles? Just seems silly. Maybe that shit works in anime, but sometimes I feel like The Matrix wears its influences a little too obviously on its sleeve.
None of the silliness of it all would really bother me if it didn't seem like the filmmakers so desperately wanted the series to be taken seriously. -
Matrix Rebooted
Matrix Reset
Matrix Hard Reset
Matrix Alt+Ctrl+Del
Matrix Debugged
Matrix Divide By Zero
Matrix Unplugged
Matrix 4.0
Matrix Patched
Matrix Open Source
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Jan 23, 2011 11:04:11 PM CST
"looking to deliver something which has never been seen again"
by plathismo
LOL. I sincerely hope that masterful turn of phrase was an exact quote from Keanu.
As for a Matrix 4/5...I say bring them on. They cannot be worse than Revolutions (Then again, some people probably thought Indiana Jones 4 had to be better than the previous two...) -
...in the R-rated Samurai thing. We'll see how that evolves.
As for the ever-polarizing 2-part MATRIX sequels, I really enjoyed particular sequences (even the labored multi-religious & philosophical infusions). RELOADED and REVOLUTIONS admittedly fell short dramatically, and I think the W's exhausted that world and its characters with three feature-length treatments. I think the only way they can continue with Keanu there is as a new cyber-human god-like being (shades of LITTLE BUDDHA) and, I mean, how seriously are we supposed to take that?
People seem to dismiss V FOR VENDETTA, and IMO that rocked, even though technically not directed by the W's. SPEED RACER needed major editing, but I appreciated how the W's used CGI to such overload levels it gave even animé a run for the money.
ROCKET ROBIN HOOD has been done already as a cartoon - I bet WB didn't know that when they forked over the penta-million.
CLOUD ATLAS is an adaptation of the novel, and it will be interesting if the W's can pull that off without gong episodic like the ANIMATRIX.
COBALT NEURAL 9 seems to also be progressing on the hush-hush, so the W's are quite busy. I wonder if they will ever appear in public again (and if that has anything to do with Larry's 0-+/0-> on IMDB).
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And expand on it to make a 3 prequel trilogy. Neo's story has been told. The only way they bring him back is to make his some Kevin Flynn-like aberration in the Matrix...and yeah we've been there already. Though Tron basically stole the Merovingian and Persephone and dressed them up as David Bowie and a very fuckable Tinkerbell lookalike. So these two franchises are fine with ripping each other off.
But a second renaissance movie would be awesome. Pretty much the best Terminator movie never made. 1st film could be the war with the machines. Second film could introduce The 1st perfect Matrix, The Architect and The Oracle(I always suspected she's the narrator of the anime). Second film ends with the 1st version of The One discovering his abilities. Third film has The One unplug himself and begin the new war with the Machines ending with The Architect reseting everything after Zion falls and The original version of The One fails. -
No need for blade runner meets high school musical in Matrix 4, 5, and 6.
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Jan 23, 2011 11:21:58 PM CST
This just proves that nothing can kill a franchise if just one of the first 3 movies is good.
by unicorndick
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Jan 23, 2011 11:44:09 PM CST
Every "game changing" director has just one "game changer" in them...
by unicorndick
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Shut your stupid mouths! Don't play the race card with me, you witless douchebags! You don't even know who you're talking to. The only woman I have ever been in love with, a woman I dated for over a year and discussed marriage with, is a BLACK woman. But I'm sure a couple of hairy palm having cretins like you two wouldn't know anything about that.
Yes, there are racists who attacked the crooked Karate Kid "remake" out of bigotry, but I happen to be a HUGE KARATE KID FAN who considers the original sacred ground. And I spent weeks on the IMBD boards taking on those racists, condemning them for their racism and for discrediting those of us legitimately fighting against the crooked "remake." The Karate Kid is a title you don't rip off or misrepresent to sell tickets or promote your kid who has yet to earn such a starring role. I would be just as furious if Tom Cruise or Michael Douglas had done the same thing.
You know how I know you two are morons? Despite my well-articulated arguments against the Karate Kid "remake," you accuse me of racism. I didn't even make a reference to race, but you two simpletons had no other rebuttal but a bogus allegation of racism. How about some counter-arguments, you morons? Are your minds really that limited? Are you really that dense?
Do the world a favor, yourstepdad and killik: Go stick your heads in a septic tank. Oh, I'm sorry, you already got your heads up each other's rectums. -
Director - Francis Ford Coppolla. Oh, wait...
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It can't be worse than Revolutions. That's just not possible. That movie left a disgusting taste in my mouth. Maybe they can right some of the wrongs. I'm willing to give it a chance.
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The Matrix sequels were flawed and the ending was a clusterfuck and it failed to deliver on the promise of the original, but they still had their moments and had some of the best action sequences ever in movie history. The final fight scene between neo and agent smith was incredibly awesome. To anybody that says the matrix sequels makes the phantom menace look good loses all credibility from this point on. The matrix sequels while flawed were still worth a watch and are still worth viewing every know and then. Modern day fan boys run with this silly notion that because a movie is flawed that it is complete shit. No, complete shit is Transformers:Revenge of the Fallen. Complete shit is avatar. Complete shit is the first wolverine movie. Modern day fan boys get it through your tiny fucking brains a flawed movie is not a terrible movie.
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(so I guess I'm not a normal person)
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Matrix: Mac Attack
Matrix: The Browsers War
Matrix: IPv6 Protocol
Matrix Rises
Matrix Returns
The Dark Matrix
Back to the Matrix
Matrix and the Raiders of the Lost Password
Matrix: The Phantom Virus
Matrix: The MPAA Strikes Back
Matrix: Attack of the RIAA
The Hacker,The Cracker and the Matrix.
Matrix 3D: Nvidia Powered
Matrix Shutdown
Matrix Hibernation
Mad Matrix 3: Beyond the Internet
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and you expect the people who read this to take you seriously?
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Jan 24, 2011 1:01:09 AM CST
i liked speed racer too, it was just released at the wrong time
by maxcherry
that was the year ironman, indiana jones, and chornicles of narnia were all releasing that month and speed racer was the one that bombed big time out of all of those.
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Keanu is right--all the writers out there need to keep working on new ideas. Like another version of Robin Hood.
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um... ok, racist? Im glad you have enjoyed a black woman, I guess? nothing dispells racism better than mentioning a person of color from your PAST (ie. I can make black jokes because I had a black friend in Elementary School)
you know how I know youre an idiot... because you yourself think you made a "well-articulated" argument... its funny how such a well articulated argument was only praised by yourself.
PS: Karate Kid being sacred ground for you speaks volumes as to how serious I should take anything you say... you probably complained about a certain toy having flames on it because when you were in your 30s, said toy didnt have flames on it
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"I feel an obligation to the fans to do it right".
Me: "Don't TELL us, SHOW US!" Isn't that the mark of a good film anyway? SHOW, not TELL! -
You could even call it that and as crass as it sounds, it wouldn't be totally unacceptable given the premise.
Because, yeah, those sequels are TERRIBLE and those who say that we 'simpletons' don't get them, remind me of Tim Meadows in The Dewey Cox story telling his band mates: "You guys are idiots! This song is deep!"
Reloaded has that awful, embarrassing rave (and yeah the guy who said the Zion council was straight out of Star Trek was dead on, right down to the crappy asymmetric shirts.) and then topped by overlong exposition scene with Colonel Sanders where they go about trying to sound academic and impressive basically talking about free will vs. predestination. Zzzzz....
And then Revolutions has some of the worst and lamest plodding action scenes as two boring Zion theater dorks try to take out one squid. Meanwhile the filmmakers fall into the "fx dork with a computer" CGI trap of creating so many powerful enemies that our heroes can't possibly win. And yet our heroes win! ("I can't believe the Ewoks won the war!") Ugh! Just recounting that mediocrity gives me shivers.
So, yeah, they should really just have a beginning with those zeros and ones and have Mr. Anderson wake up from a dream back in his old hacker bedroom again. And the sequels are basically The Matrix all over again, with the added gimmick that Neo keeps saying, "This is awfully familiar". or "how can the same shit happen to the same guy twice?" Actually, maybe they should just forget about it and realize The Matrix was really a one shot. Like Die Hard and Predator. And Speed.
Really there are no good trilogies. Star Wars was an almost, Back To The Future was an almost. (Both had sucky third movies, admit it.)
Most movies don't merit sequels. And even when they do, like Iron Man, they disappoint.
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"But I notice most AICN TBers like shit."
So you FINALLY admit Tron Legacy was SHIT!!!
Glad to see even a neanderthal like you can learn!! -
...which also starred Reaves and was almost the same movie!
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...Speed Racer was one of the biggest dogshit pieces of remakes since the Will Farrell remake of "Bewitched"!
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is a braindead douche who is so dumb that his only retort to a legitimate argument is playing the racecard.
You are an ignorant piece of trash, an ignorant, uninspired, witless piece of excrement. Please drop yourself down a sewer, you putrid tower of fecal matter. -
WILL YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP...jesus
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"Tarantino is so arrogant that he thinks the Agents being dressed in suits was stolen from Reservoir Dogs, though..."
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"The One is part of the plans of the machines! It happened before there's no way out!" then "Holy shit, Neo's powers work in what we believed to be the real world! They're still in the matrix!" then all the interesting questions and implications are forgotten or explained away in Revolutions. It's still the real world "The One's power simply outgrew the Matrix" - what does that even mean?
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From the epic and hilarious GANGBANG OF HATE aimed at the absolute basket-case known as BrainDrain... including an appearance by the amazing Telemarketer and his brilliant and appropriately BLUNT psychoanalysis of the BIGGEST IDIOT to ever grace the AICN pages... to the continued love and admiration for the original Matrix, as well as the dissapointment in the missed opportunities of the sequels... and finally to the unexpected mass display of admiration towards the criminally underrated "Speed Racer". As i've stated before, I fully expected to dislike that film when i saw it in the theatre a couple of years ago, and it ended up being one of the most pleasant cinematic surprises of my entire life. I seriously cannot comprehend the animosity that film seems to garner on the internet... It might be the most misunderstood/underrated film this side of Alien 3. I can only assume the people that "hate" that lovely little film, are those who either haven't seen it, or those who lack basic cognitive abilites like our beloved Braindrain...
Anywho, i'm only half way through the talkback, but this is one of the very best i've read in 12 years here...
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That thing is gonna kick major ass.
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It's appropriate too, since they played the first 2 matrix films last night on TNT. I hadn't even thought about anything matrix related in well over a year, as the sequels (mainly Revolutions...) kinda killed my enthusiasm for the series as a whole (kinda like fuckin' LOST). Anyway, i ended up watching the entire first film again, as i couldn't take my eyes off of it... my love and admiration grows for that damn film everytime i see it, and it has definitely placed a spot on my all time top 10 films. Everything about is just perfect. Every shot... every musical cue, every line of dialogue (well almost every... ;-) - to the pacing, editing, the tone, the themes, etc... What an absolute masterpiece. And it might just feature the most underrated score of all time.
Everyone goes on and on about the visuals and the concepts of the story and the themes and whatnot... but the score is so perfect and subtle, and it totally compliments the film in every scene. I don't feel that Davis' brilliant score gets enough love ;-)
And i ended up pretty much watching the entirety of Reloaded as well. That film really does have a lot going for it (while obviously being inferior to the original in just about every way), and it's most definitely a major missed opportunity. As many others have pointed out, everything related to Zion, conceptually, as well as the execution of it, is just soooooooo wrong. From the boring, one note, superficial characters, to the awful casting ("Kid" i'm lookin' at you...), to the set design... it's just terrible. And speaking of the score... whereas the first film was note-perfect, the second film had a few issues, pretty much all related to Zion. The music comes off as simply TOO MUCH. It's just over the top, unfairly "epic" (if that makes any sense...) and just downright cheesy. One of the few mistakes by Mr. Don Davis...
But honestly, as silly and amateurish as the opening act is (first 45 minutes or so...), the film really starts to pick up when they enter the matrix to go search for Seraph. From Neo's encounter with Seraph, to the end of the freeway chase... it's pretty fucking incredible. From the visuals, to the awesome monologues (Oracle, Smith, Merovingian) to the music... it's a fuckin' ride! And i absolutely love the architect's scene. I feel that scene was completely misunderstood and under-appreciated upon release. There's some truly fantastic stuff in there.
Ergo... i have mixed feelings about Reloaded, and there was a lot of wasted potential (mainly concerning Zion) but there is a lot to like about it. Now Revolutions on the other hand.... UGGGHHHHH. The raping of Agent Smith's character, Weaving's over-the-top performance, the weak actress they unfortunately had to replace the great Gloria Foster with... the taming of the Merovingian, and that awful, cheesy, BULLSHIT happy-rainbow ending that goes head to head with the ending of LOST as the worst ending in modern media... YUCK.
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again with your homosexual projection again. Dude, its you that wants things (vuvezela?) shoved up your ass.
I guess thats why you are so passionate about Stargate. You love things that involve rings being entered by big military types.
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even when you try to insult, its just funny/cute.
How did it feel when SGU was cancelled buddy? Have your wrist scars healed yet from the serious slitting they must have received?
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Seriously, The Matrix is a bonefide masterpiece. As revolutionary as the visuals were, they really almost take a backseat to the storytelling and the script... The brilliant way the story unfolds, keeping the veiwer (as well as the vessel for the audience, Neo...) in the dark, revealing just enough info, bit by bit, exploring the deep mythology... (not to mention, completely FUCKING YOUR MIND) to the growth and development of Neo's character... it's a truly classic "Hero's Journey" tale. In fact, it's one of, if not THE very best since the original Star Wars...
Such an awesome and original film. Especially the innovative fusion of Cyberpunk, Martial Arts, and Philosophy (specifically eastern philosophy...) Combine that with the aforementioned fantastic script and story, and beautiful cinematography and score... and you got yourselves a true classic.
I was really paying closer attention to the camera work this last time i watched it and couldn't help but compare it to new comic book films like the insanely overrated TDK. Just in terms of shot blocking, framing, etc. The Matrix fucking DESTROYS stuff like Nolan's batman films... The Matrix just fuckin' OOZES "comic-book style" whereas Nolan's flicks are shot about as bland, grounded, and outright BORING as possible. Shit, Noley could learn a few things from the Wachowski's in terms of visual flair, and dynamic camera work...
Hell, i'd love to see what the Bros. would do with Batman!
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I have to say, there is some pretty good discussion going on here regarding the Matrix.
I agree with a lot of what you guys vare saying, its true that the sequals are flawed, and did nt really live up to what the first film promised.
But I still give the Wachowskis a lot of credit for not dumbing it down, and you can at least see a ton of ambition there. I think they successfully pushed things in some areas but very much failed in others.
Turd, in your estimation, who has gotten the two sequals back to back right? If you had to choose between TBTTF sequals, the POTC sequals, or the Matrix sequals? Who do you think came closest? And why?
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Saw it in the theater in its second week--it was already in the smaller theater by then because Iron Man was really taking off. But the theater was packed and was cheering and laughing with the movie. Great time! It replays well on blu at home, too.
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Keanu was... well, definitely better than usual ;-) Perhaps his best role and performance yet, and to this day... and Laurence Fishbourne was the fucking SHIT. Carrie-Ann Moss was fantastic, and Hugo Weaving and Gloria Foster were so fucking perfect... they probably could have received oscar nominations. I'm dead serious. Those 2 just eat up their respective scenes with commanding presence... and they truly elevate the already fantastic material they were given. Agent Smith will absolutely go down as one of the very best villains in cinema history (at least with the original... sequels not so much) And Gloria Foster fucking KILLED IT too. She brought so much warmth, and depth to her role. A fantastic actress who is already sorely missed...
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Abortions for some...
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Would definitely be one of those films that would finally convince me to buckle down and get a Blu-Ray player...
Lost's first season, The Matrix, Jurassic Park, Avatar, Jet Li's Hero, and Speed Racer.
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Don't waste your breath on that clown, "yourstepdaddy" (or "yourstepdaddyfag" as Ryan the Retard calls him...)
That guy is an imbecile. One step above the aforementioned Braindrain... Their little "bitch-fit" earlier in the talkback was comedy GOLD lol ...and he loves nothing more than to pull out the dreaded RACE CARD in just about every argument or debate he encounters.
Oh and he really enjoyed X-Men 3 and Spiderman 3.
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A Sarah Palin production
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X-Men: The Last Stand, however... not so much.
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AICN Talkback, where nerds become bullies.
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I'm not entirely surprised that you enjoyed Spiderman 3. After all, you do defend the final season of Lost, as well as the awful Finale ;-)
Also, you have this odd compulsion to be the mediator in all arguments and debates. You generally don't pick a side, or have any convictions about anything that i've noticed... and you simply play devil's advocate or whatever to difuse arguments. That's where people get this "calm" and "level-headed" vibe from you. So i would assume that you'd view film in the same manner. Giving every film the benefit of the doubt, and simply looking for the "good" aspects or qualities. Not necessarily a "bad" thing, but more like a low-key, "zombified", prozac type attitude going on with you...
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Jan 24, 2011 5:30:55 AM CST
After re-reading my previous post, i think i may have overused the "" key...
by viggeo_morgenstein
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Heh.
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That's a perfect trilogy, with 3 being the best of the lot. It can be done. Toy Story 3 was the best film of 2010.
Oh no, wait, that's like, a cartoony kids film isn't it?
I forgot we were talking about far more legit movies about things such as time travelling DeLoreans, sentient flying robots from the future that enslave the human race, and intergalactic monks having pissing contests with laser swords.
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The end of The Matrix was perfect. Neo became the one and could control his environment...he was going to kick ass. I didn't need to see any more...Matrix 2 and 3 were just superfluous.
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And why is he always the first? He has connections to AICN or he just spends all his day in front of his computer as if he's admited to a long hospital treatment?
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I mostly agree with you. However, i think there was a rich enough mythology to explore with the matrix. Some really cool themes and concepts and whatnot...Lots of potential that was sadly squandered.
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It's HEAD-FUCKING-GEEK. He can do whatever the fuck he wants!
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I do remember you as one of tthe defenders of Will Smith. Good to knbow you have seen the light and know his true colours now.
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Jan 24, 2011 7:08:32 AM CST
J.J. Abrams and Will Smif should team up on a film
by viggeo_morgenstein
Maybe Will could be in the Nu-Trek sequel???
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stone face 3D - he wont even have a decent laugh
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The first one is a fantastic film with an insane level of re-watchability. Now, the second film, taken on it's own, is pretty fucking great IMO. Great action, Neo kicks things up a notch or three, really enjoyed each new addition (with the exception of the albino twat twins, possibly the lamest "cool characters" ever). I even loved the cliffhanger ending with the slow pan and crescendo of music, cut to credits. Reloaded offers some really interesting directions that the third film could take. And that's where the problem lies. The third film simply didn't deliver, IMO. If you want to cite that I "didn't get it", you can, but after leaving the theatre and discussing what we'd just seen, I'm pretty sure we all understood what had taken place and why. But that doesn't make it a good film. There are interesting elements to it, but most of the third movie is simply "too much". Too much of that idiot in the power suit screaming and shooting, shooting and screaming. Too much of the Neo/Smith fight, too much of Morpheus being driven around like Miss Daisy with nothing to do. The discussion can go on and on...but my point is that I loved the first two, taken as a set, but as a trilogy I think it's third act really breaks the magic created with the first film and breaks the promises, spoken or not, that Reloaded gave us. Regarding another two films? I don't know. I'll see them, but I'm willing to bet the well is either dry or the Wachowski's bucket won't reach the good stuff at the bottom. As for a samurai film, I say fuck yeah! Go and watch Sword of Doom for an awesome samurai flick. Too bad they couldn't have finished the second and third film...
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Well, I don't know about you guys- but I don't think of Robin Hood when I first hear that name...
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Totally agree with everything you said. Especially about the sudden decline in quality from Reloaded to Revolutions. Reloaded was at least 50% of a great film... Great action sequences, awesome 2nd act, some fantastic new characters (Merovingian, Architect) great score and soundtrack, some interesting new themes and concepts explored...
The other 50%, aka the BAD... Lots of bad, banal, expository dialogue, some real SHIT characters (everyone in zion, Michael from Lost's character, that goddamn KID, Seraph was pretty weak and underutilized) terrible pacing in the first 40 minutes or so, until they jack back in to the matrix... and on the whole, it got quite contrived and convoluted. The first film had NONE of these issues, and like you said, it's an INSANELY re-watchable flick.
However, Revolutions was just a fucking mess. I think i've only watched the whole thing twice... and that was hard enough lol The new oracle was weak, they cut off the Merovingian's balls... like Reloaded, the first 30 minutes or so was really clunky and awkward... the music was by far the weakest in this installment... Agent Smith's character was hilariously over-the-top, and Morpheus' character was neutered... not to mention all the shitty zion stuff... and the amazingly awful ending, and how it totally condradicted the themes presented in the first film.
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most people who talk crap on speed racer have never seen it-
it really shows off their love for racing and STORY TELLING.
def a nice rebound form matrix 3-
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It just needed to be said.
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First Matrix was wonderful, unreal. And deeply philosophical, with roots going back thousands of years to Tibetan Buddhism. Resonated wonderfully. The sequels were awful and pretentious. I have no enthusiasm for these new ones, but if they've got something to say, I'll check 'em out.
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Please keep complaining about Will Smith. It's good to know who's easily intimidated. Oh! And be sure to make ghetto references so that we know how you sort reality: he's not tall, or athletic, or rich, or funny, or skilled. To you, he's black. And you can't quite handle it, can ya? -
Neo discovers that his reality exists inside the mind of John Matrix.
[Matrix-Commando Crossover]
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What about The Dark Knight and the Harry Potter series?
The Samurai film, BTW, is "47 Ronin" directed by Carl Erik Rinsch.
More Matrix could work, if it's closer to the first, and not the second and third. The problem with the sequels is that the creators got carried away with "wowing" people with their "epic, important" universe and special effects and forgot to make it fun and center on likable characters...same exact thing that happened on the SW prequels.
That, and has there EVER been an instance of a first film being a hit, followed by two sequels shot back-to-back working out? Back to the Future 2 + 3, Pirates 2 + 3...not really a good track record, and don't have any confidence that the Avatar sequels will break the pattern.
PS, Keanu Reeves is a girl and Carrie Ann Moss is a man with a large mustache, and Lawrence Fishburne has a 4-inch gap between his front teeth. -
The three-part race in the middle is such a dead-on perfect realization of the anime in live-action, it makes the negatives -- like the slow pacing, over-melodrama, and awkward exposition (which I suspect was supposed to mirror how the villains spoke in the original, English dubbed series) -- not quite as irritating. I saw it in IMAX twice, own the dvd. It's flawed, but as a life long fan of the original series, I liked it.
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surely you didnt think that i was talking about WB,did you? no and i wont call you Shirley again.
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From Screenrant: [UPDATE: The Senior Administrator for the London International School of Performing Arts informed me that Keanu Reeves made no appearance there. DEBUNKED]
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The Matrix news is what I find most improbable here.
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I just checked my 1st two posts regarding you and I never even called you a racist... but somehow, you think I did and are very angry that I resorted to "calling you a racist" (in which I didnt, in the 1st two posts to you)
so basically, you must be a racist to get so angry about being "called" one.
if you call me a douche, I wont get angry and up in arms, because I know I am not a douche
you however, must be reaaaallly racist since youre so upset.
but hey, at least you loved ONE black woman in your life... so you cant be overtly racist (just subtlely racist)
PS: you're a racist, get over it. everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I have no problem with your hatred over colored folks
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anyhoo, I guess Matrix 4 & 5 would be out by around 2014/2015, if Cloud Atlas and this "Robin Hood" thing are to be realized first...?
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Screen Rant says they contacted the school and nothing of the sort took place...
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Keanu's got a pretty good slate of movies int eh pipe, looking forward to all of those, espcially 47 Ronin (if it's faithful to the lore that is). As for more Matrix, dug the whole series (although it did flounder a bit here and there with the sequels). Bring it!
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Jan 24, 2011 11:59:43 AM CST
Darth Busey, Johnny Utah should be hunting down Vin Diesel and Paul Walker for stealing his movie...
by thecomedian
Seriously though, I always thought that would be great if they brought Johnny Utah into the Fast-N-Furiverse as the experience Veteran FBI agent brought into hunt Diesel and Walker since they ripped his fucking movie off so bad. But I guess The Rock will have to suffice.
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how does AICN not verify this to a certain extent before they post it, what a joke.
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aicn is kind of a joke now
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Jan 24, 2011 12:18:57 PM CST
wow, a news site who actually verifies a source before posting?
by billy_d_williams
what a radical concept...aicn is amateur hour
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I loved, no... LOVED Reloaded. I loved the action scenes. I loved the new layers of mythology that challenged everything we assumed after the first movie. I loved the music (particularly Chateau Fight). I loved the Architect scene. I loved the new concepts (prior "Ones", a program in a human body, rogue programs that were also hiding out in the Matrix). I am one of the few who would have to flip a coin to choose between Reloaded and the original movie.
Revolutions... so frustrating:
-Not enough Neo! He is missing for huge stretches of movie and only has one Matrix fight (the climax).
-Not enough Matrix! Take out the fight at the end, and there was only about 20 minutes of movie that takes place in the Matrix.
-Too much time spent with third, or even four tier characters on Zion.
-Morpheus was a bitch for the whole movie. Didn't offer anything except to be bossed around by Jada Pinkett Smith. He should have died when the Neb was destroyed (more heroic and symbolic).
-The whole Merovingian sex club scene was gratuitous and not very interesting.
-The resolution of the Smith story was too confusing.
-The whole thing ends on a truce, which is not very satisfying on any level.
-This isn't the fault of the movie, but the trailers really should not have revealed that Neo makes it to the machine city. That was a killer. His exchange with the Deus Ex Machina is the first scene of the final theatrical trailer, and is a damn shame.
Ha - I bet nobody cares about all this. But it was fun to write.
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But I did attend President Obama's inauguration along with over a million of his other biggest supporters. You, you were probably at home with your hand in your pants, getting a finger full of yourself (because you know you don't have anything between your legs which would require a handful), gratifying yourself while at the same time calling anyone who doesn't like Will Smith a racist, you pathetic schill.
Thing is, I used to like Will Smith plenty. The Fresh Prince is one of my favorite shows of all time and I used to be one of his consumate defenders around here. I saw him as a man of tremendous comedic and dramatic talent, but now I see him as a crooked self-promoter, a modern Tom Cruise who misrepresented a film franchise which is precious to me.
But to a plebe like you, any cross words about the Smith family Karate Kid "remake" is equivalent to racism. Clearly you're a man whose got more going on behind his rectum than he does inside his skull.
What you are, dung-for-brains, is a closet racist: Someone who breaks everything down in terms of race so to give meaning to his pathetic, feeble, meaningless existance. All you have in your poor excuse of a life is your Internet porn and misguided indignation. Hey, whatever gets you off, parnter.
Didn't you call me gay earlier? I would call you a homophobe for that, but I know you're just a schmuck who randomly thows around insults, too stupid to put any meaning behind them.
Oh, and I've dated multiple women who happen to be black, as I have dated multiple women who happen to be white, Asian, and Hispanic. You should try going out with a real woman sometime; I'm sure your mom is tired of feeling ashamed when she has to run your socks through the wash twice to get the semen stains out of them.
Wow, yourstepdad. I can't believe I've wasted this much on a pathetic piece of garbage such as you. But I'm enjoying telling you exactly what you are: A brainless heap of excrement. -
I will not waste any more time on "yourstepdad." Pathetic trash like him should be disposed of, not lingered upon.
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That was interesting article to read.
So the Watchowskis are looking to make a "Matrix 4" in 3D?
Well seeing how I loved the first Matrix (and still do) and felt completlely and utterly cheated and ripped off by who horrible the 2 sequels were and how the Wachowski Brothers ruined what could have been an epic Trilogy...
Here are some of the Titles I cam up with for Matrix 4 in 3D....
Matrix 4: "We the Wachowski Brothers want to apologize to you Matrix Fans for the terrible 2 sequels we made you watch"
Matrix 4: "It can't possibly be any worse than the previous two sequels"
Matrix 4: "The first two sequels were just a mindfuck...you were actually IN the Matrix itself! Surprise!!"
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"Matrix 4: Refunded" Where upon the Watchowski Brothers refund everyone who was suckered into think...Hell yeah!! The Matrix Sequels are gonna ROCK!! But in fact turned out to be pure unadulturated garbage and craptasically horrible! -
I liked Matrix reloaded a lot. I'm not busting to see more films though.
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but maybe El Nino got the names of two schools mixed up or something, and this stuff is all actually true?
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Jan 24, 2011 1:09:45 PM CST
THECOMEDIAN - I AM DOWN WITH A JOHNNY UTAH/FAST AND FURIOUS CROSSOVER
by darth busey
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Why does Hollywood keep allowing these two jackasses to work? The stink fests that they keep puttng out....
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
V for Vendetta
The Invasion
Speed Racer
Ninja Assassin...
I mean does anybody see a trend here. Why the fuck are they working?
Fuck... Matrix 4 and 5??? Gimme a break! I'd rather gouge out my eyes and fill my eye sockets with salt. That would be more pleasant. Talk about fucking pointless. If Keanu had any brains, he'd go running the other direction. -
http://screenrant.com/matrix-4-5-bill-and-ted-3-keanu-reeves-rob-97796/
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Bring on the Matrix sequels. hell, they weren't worse than the fucking Tron movie, but you didn't have people complaining about too many minorities in Zion (does anyone remember that bullshit?). Some asshole started a discussion on why there were so many minorities in Zion and I just gave up on dickheads complaining about it. But the new Tron movie was no worse, it was stupid eyecandy that I actually enjoyed, and didn't have half of the bullshit troll hate that the Matrix movies have. It reached a lot of people and a lot of spoiled redneck assholes who think the world should only look like them are gonna bitch. fine, fuck them. You are inconsistant turds. if you hate Tron and Matrix, well fine, fuck you too. its at least good dumb eye candy for the rest of us.
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and Im sure you will waste further precious time responding to this post
I admit, I didnt go to the inaugration despite living in MD at the time. I was, sadly at work, sellin coke (the soda, not the drug). I did watch it live though. I was very proud of him even though I didnt vote for him (nor did I vote for McCain)
I dont think Im a closeted racist. Who would I be racist against? white people? Native Americans? just in case ya dont know, I am a person of color (in fact, 2 colors!)
but yea, Im an idiot, because I stopped readin half of what you said. just got really bored.
PS: um, I know you are an intelligent person who makes "well articulated" arguments about rectums and penises (?), but I never called you gay. I called a fictional planet gay. If it makes me a homophobe for calling a fictional nonexistent planet gay, then Im king of homophobia (so maybe I should stop chattin with you since you keep mentioning my penis and rectum... seriously, whats up with that?)
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I didnt even see that insult until krypton kid pointed it out. Im glad theres more people out there who thinks Im an embeesell (no sarcasm)
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I just would like to say its kinda pointless calling me names or discussing me masturbatin or whatever else you usually use to insult people. I like to think Im a logical person, so when you say things that arent true, I will sarcastically accept what you say. you wont see me go on a rant using exclamations after each insult!
so in short, call me gay. call me a homophobe. say Im a guy who uses socks as a cleanup tool for masturbation (...is that really an insult?). call me a idiot. say I dont have friends. whatever untrue (typed) words you use against me wont hurt my feelings. stick with facts, those are generally more hurtful.
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http://screenrant.com/matrix-4-5-bill-and-ted-3-keanu-reeves-rob-97796/
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of a cartoon tv series.
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Harry = Rubes listening to "War of the Worlds"
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Id say your assessment of me is pretty spot-on. I do look for the good qualities in film and can recognize them even in the films I despise. And I do often play Devil's Advocate in discussions, mainly because I find it causes both sides to have to dig deep to really explain and defend their positions (often with good results). You were wrong, however, in thinking I have no convictions or go about "zombified" in my discussions, debates, or screenings of films. Obviously you haven't been around for my tirade against the "Clash of the Titans" remake :).
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flawed but only because of their ambition...they had real depth and real heart. I love them all.
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Viggeo couldnt be the new handle of LowesTranny... he wouldve been more pretentious and posted many lols (unless hes tryin really hard to hide his 55th handle)
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Jan 24, 2011 4:15:03 PM CST
I GUESS "THE KEANU" AND KEANU REEVES ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THEN
by meadowe
cuz there's all these reports saying this was false. Oh well. Nice while it lasted.
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fuck yes, the 2nd renaissance prequel movie/s would totally wash the taste of revolutions out of my mouth.
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And this is why AICN doesn't do "news."
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I've had to Refresh the page lately before it lets me expand the comments. Still a few bugs in the AICN upgrade, methinks.
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Jan 24, 2011 5:00:35 PM CST
In some wonderful parallel universe, "Bill & Ted 3"...
by writefortheedit
...is in active development, with Alex Winter directing and co-starring...
Perchance to dream...
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But FIVE MILLION DOLLARS for a script!?!?!?!
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Guess it doesn't take much for you to feel honored.
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Jan 24, 2011 5:40:06 PM CST
I like how Harry doesn't even UPDATE debunked stories anymore
by mattmanreturns
If not for talkbacks, I wouldn't have even known this was false.
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I never saw the Matrix sequels even though I liked the first. Or because I liked the first. At the end, I knew there was nowhere worthwhile it could go in a sequel, as Neo flying in front of everyone, along with his god-like powers and ability to destroy Smith and make agents run, meant the rest of the story was allready spelled out for us.
It mystified me when the 2nd one was getting people so hyped... there was no point to the characters or story anymore, so it was clearly just going to be inventing and changing established details from the 1st movie to make more money. The backlash by so many just proves it was the wrong thing to do, especially by the time part 3 came out.
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The first was basically perfect. The tone of the second was off, but it's enjoyable enough I guess, and shows how the future world came to be. There's the problem: the future we saw in the first movie has come to pass, it's over. Nowhere to go without changing the mythos. It was a GREAT idea for a film, and the first worked like a charm, but it's done now. They aren't teens anymore, and it's not the late 80's-early 90's. Bill and Ted cannot be Bill and Ted as we remember them. Carlin is dead. Those adventures had their time, and a third can only be a disappointment.
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All about cute and adorable NeoMini, the nine year old computer genius who builds his trusty sidekick spider robot and befriends the rambuncious sweety Trinity and the crazy adventures they have in post-apocalyptic Earth-Prime.
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the whole matrix was fully explained but if a part 4 comes out it can take place years later or years earlier either way itll be a good movie!!!
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I think that maybe a "bookend" set of movies would work... the first one basically showing the events of Second Renaissance, and the second one showing what happens after the Matrix has been rebooted with new rules about the treatment of awakened people.
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.....I wanted to like them,it just never happened. Those fucking sequels either bored me or confused me.
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At least I'm guessing this is based on that series. I was in middle school but I remember loving it at the time. I'll have to dig it up. Six issue mini series. Dystopian England of the future, a man named Hood rises to prominence. That's all I remember. It was very bloody and violent though. "Gritty and Edgy" at the dawn of the comic era of "Gritty and Edgy!"
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http://www.comicvine.com/outlaws/49-4561/
Just as cool as I remember. Seems to fit the bill. Wonder if The Brothers Wachowsosslki bought the rights or are just using it as a jump off point or are doing something totally different.
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I just noticed that the animated gif featuring Harry as the Human Centipede is the most disturbing thing I have ever seen, and I just watched the director's cut of A Serbian Film.
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Great TB, here's my 2 cents.
Really loved The Matrix. Seeing it fresh with a clueless crowd was pure bliss. That collective shit we all took as Neo "woke up", what fun.
But boy-howdy, did I have a problem with the sequels. So Neo is essentially a god who can stop bullets, fly, and "enter" an agent, yet we're right back to chop-socky and aw-shucks timidness?
Oldy McOld Girlfriend and Black Obi-Wan became sad afterthoughts? Much less fun.
Huge fan of Speed Racer as a kid. The first 15 minutes with Rex's ghost car was fucking awesome, then the flicks crashes headfirst a wall of exposition and poorly conceived antagonists. Those races are mint, tho'.
Oh and more Bill&Ted is always welcome.
It would be most triumphant.
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Wachowski had it grafted into her vagina.
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DVD INCLUDES ALTERNATE CAMERA ANGLES!
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Jan 24, 2011 10:18:43 PM CST
GLAD TO SEE BRAINDRAIN GET DESTROYED BY HIS BETTERS.
by dannygl0vers_dickblood
There is not a more pointless talkbacker than that guy.
He is a total. fucking. loser. x 2. -
A relevant title in 1999.
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A nasty bump from an Agent Smith headbutt!
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Just like nobody cares about you.
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You fucking suck the life out of this site, Ryan.
I hope you drown in a pool of your own goatee hair.
Douche bag asshole.
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and his life is AICN.
you know who doesnt have a life? Ryan_the_Retard/Fettitular/LowesTranney/ViggeoMortenson/deadflagblues/etc
WTFUCKERS?!
you know shit is sad when I defend braindrain... fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck -
There won't be a third time for me.
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And the sudden repeat of the zipper cartoon of harry eating his own **** Im gagging more than usual myself. Sad panda... sad.
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Jan 25, 2011 3:26:09 AM CST
Finds it humorous that people were actually entertained...
by majorfrontbum
by the Matrix. It was over top ridiculousness, but violent and trendy enough, for 16 year olds to lose loads over. They obviously weren't prepared for any sequels, as they were made up as they went along. Now a fourth part, merely to exploit the 3D technology. They might save face, if they turn it into a spoof. Break out the canned laughter, Neo is going to be climbing walls and dodging chicken pellets again.
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I hope this is true. As much as I have enjoyed looking at the same tired "Matrix 4" links, it's nice to see some new news for a change. If the movie(s) are really in our future, join me in demanding a more immediate future. "Like" "Give Us The Matrix 4"!!!! on facebook, a page I created to give fans a voice. Demand it!!!
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You 2 clownshoes are frackin' HILARIOUS.
Keep up the good work you 2! -
And it's always nice to see an appearance by the one and only...
DANNYGLOVER'SDICKBLOOD
Where you been, foo? You need to post here more often. I'm starting to lose my mind listening to these 2 parasites drone on day after day after day... -
Good movie. Not great. However the sequels are on par with the Star Wars prequels. A bunch of convoluted shit.
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Much in the same way I don't give a shit about another Pirates of the Caribbean movie. The damage has already been done.
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The Matrix 4 Script:
http://studios.amazon.com/projects/1725
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Jan 25, 2011 7:18:21 AM CST
The damage has already been done with the POTC trilogy??
by viggeo_morgenstein
That shit was awful from the start.
C'mon man... next thing i'm gonna hear from you is that Heroes was "teh awesomez" until the season 1 finale... lol
The entire Pirates trilogy (including the first one) was as convoluted/contrived/silly as the matrix sequels or the star wars prequels. -
All flash and surface, full of outrageously pointless fake-philosophic babbling, but really just cobbled-together nonsense with tiresomely self-serious, ponderous tone (a forced substitute for actual substance) weighing everything down. It's not that no one got it except geeks who style themselves as possessing secret wisdom; it's that no wisdom was present, and some were duped.
In my opinion, at least.
Which was sad, because the first one was great - energetic, fresh, surprising, clever, and just rooted enough in the "real" world to give it some gravity. The sequels, and the similarly timed SW prequels, are a fine warning about not leaving well enough alone on a grand scale. -
Very well put, son. You summed up my thoughts perfectly :-)
Additionally... you fairly accurately described myself in your first paragraph:
"All flash and surface, full of outrageously pointless fake-philosophic babbling, but really just cobbled-together nonsense with tiresomely self-serious, ponderous tone (a forced substitute for actual substance) weighing everything down. It's not that no one got it except geeks who style themselves as possessing secret wisdom; it's that no wisdom was present, and some were duped."
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Jan 25, 2011 10:43:53 AM CST
Hey Harry - I hear that ROMAN POLANSKI is going to reboot the SPY KIDS franchise !!!!!
by shavedleatherpig
My cousin's best-friend's uncle lives in France and recently attended his grandson's preschool graduation and Polanski was the keynote speaker where he made this announcement.
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That was my first hearty laugh for this morning. Thank you, my friend.
"The path of neo is changed, which has provoked the Machine mainframe. Neo realizes that this is all a game, mainframe on other hand has plan of it’s own to destroy the matrix and Zion, once and for all. The only way to stop the machine is to reprogram the mainframe itself..."
And it goes on like that.
Hysterical. -
That was a dumbass stupid joke.
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Staring Olivia Wilde and Charlize Theron.
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The Matrix sequels were not pseudo-smart, they were proper smart. Too often people call pseudo-smart to stuff they can't keep up. Too often people call pseudo-smart to stuff that makes them feel dumber and ignorant. It must swoot their ego thinking like that. The Matrix sequels, for all their perceived faults, they are smart movies. Their fault, if be, is due to the scripts not being as polished as the first. But then again, the first movie had a script being writen and re-writen for 7 years. The sequels couldn't afford that much time, it went from first draft to production in less then two years. It does make a difference.
The differences between the first Matrix movie and it's sequels is not a question of smarts, inteligence and delivery, but a matter of script polishing. The first movie had the edge. -
Jan 25, 2011 9:09:20 PM CST
um, during that 6 month martial arts training,
by the_booger_in_your_egg_salad
how about like one day of acting training, ok, maybe just and afternoon. whoa, it'd be awesome.
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where they nail it rather than drop the ball like on the last two i agree with Asi in some respects, the sequels were actually were smart thought out films with quite a bit to say under the surface...but they completely scrwewed it up as a piece of audio-visual storytelling on the surface, plotting, characters, where The Matrix fused these near perfectly and knocked it out the park... while he's right about them in his analysis i beleive (you can find his, others essays on Martix, Plato & Cave, Polis etc, and his perverts guide on DVD), Matrix films shouldnt be the kind that need Slavoj Zizek or somebody with an encyclopedic & deep knowledge/understanding of greek up to modern philosophy etc to explain them, they should speak purely and wonderfully through the audio-visuals to the audience themselves, like the first movie did.
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http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/update_keanu_reeves_was_never_in_london_reported_matrix_sequels_not_happeni/#
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So disappointed to hear it was all a big lie. I thoroughly enjoyed the first 2 Matrix films, the last irritated me. However, I'd love to see more Matrix.
Fuck the originator of these lies. -
When other rumors turn out to be false posts usually get updated saying so. What's the matter, you guys don't want to admit you got duped?
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So say we all.
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damn hoax...but on the topic:
if you are interested of continue for the matrix online storeis , view the Matrix Online Servers Project Fanpage :
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And with that comment of your you exposed how dumb you actually are.
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How long do you expect this peace to last?
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not sure I like the idea of more movies though.
I'd prefer (non-3D) re-release for a Matrix marathon for its 15th anniversary or some such.
Definitely, not liking the idea of a sci-fi Robin Hood with Will Smith. Next thing Will Smith would be doing would be "Sherlock Homie In Space"
I'd rather the Wachowskis did a new "new thing".
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