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EXPENDABLES Sequel Casting Stuff!! Van Damme?? Will Bruce Come Back??

Published at: Jan. 18, 2011, 10:38 a.m. CST by merrick

 

Merrick again...

UPDATE:  seems there's been some miscommunication and misunderstanding afoot regarding why Segal isn't likely to appear in the EXPENDABLES sequel.  In short, it's not Seagal avoiding producer Avi Lerner, it's the other way around - Lerner had had some "bad experiences" with Seagal, thus wouldn't be in a rush to put him in a Lerner-produced EXPENDIBLES sequel.  

THIS piece has a brief quote from Van Damme cohort Sheldon Lettich which illustrates the mattern more accurately.

 

Original article follows...

 

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Merrick here...

At this weekend's Golden Globes, Bruce Willis offered a quick update on the upcoming EXPENDABLES sequel, in which he's expected to reprise the "Mr. Church" role he cameoed in the first film.  

 

"Apparently it's going to happen this year," he said.

When asked if he will be in it -- as has been rumored -- Bruce confirmed the news.

"As far as I know, barring any unforeseen circumstances, but yeah, I would love to be a part of it," he said.

This per Yahoo

Via his Twitter stream, Stallone has previously indicated that Willis' role would be considerably enhanced this time around.  

Meanwhile, numerous reports...like THIS ONE...say that there's a very good chance Jean-Claude Van Damme will appear in the new film, provided Steven Seagal is not in the picture.  Which doesn't sound like too big an issue, as Seagal is evidently not keen to appear in a  movie produced by EXPENDABLES' Avi Lerner.  

Hopefully all of these developments will push forward the video release of Stallone's EXPENDABLES re-cut, which he says is quite a bit different than the version we saw in theaters.  I really, really want to see that new edit of the film...I enjoyed the first movie, but feel it might be well served by some rejiggering.  

More as we know more...

 

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  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:41 a.m. CST

    FIST!

    by George Newman

    to your face

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Stallone's got a weird editing style these days

    by rev_skarekroe

    Jumpy and strange. He used it in Expendables and Rambo IV. Anyway, the new film should have Sly's team vs. Arnie's team. I mean, it's freaking obvious.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Read this yesterday

    by BlaGyver

    And I'm curious....what's Van Damme's deal with Seagal?

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Van Dam/Seagal?

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    so, Jean Claude hate Stevey or something? is there anyone he likes (besides Dolph I guess)?

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:52 a.m. CST

    UPDATE YOUR POST, re: JCVD and Seagal

    by Rob

    The producers said his quote was taken out of context and JCVD's inclusion has nothing to do with Seagal. Source: http://bit.ly/gtvzCN

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Carl Weathers

    by nexxus7

    I'd really like to see Apollo Creed in it. Weathers is still in good shape. And that would be some good nostalgia casting. Are he and Stallone on the outs?

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Enricobalazar

    by BlaGyver

    ....there's a JCVD fan forum?

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Arnold +Sly + Willis = 2012's BLOCKBUSTER!

    by ABking

    SUMMER 2012 is going to be fun.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Still missing one major guy in these...

    by The_Mad_Groper

    They had all the right guys in the first one minus one. If they want to get all of the 80's group then they HAVE to have Chuck Norris!!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Arnie vs. Sly???

    by brocknroll

    So will it be Arnie vs. Sly for the sequel? That's what I'm predicting too. Barney Ross and Trench didn't get along too well in the first one. So Arnie might be the main villain for the next one if he agrees for more screen time for the sequel? An Arnie vs. Sly fight scene would be pretty entertaining, in my opinion. Bring it on!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Yes. Keep that fat fuck Seagal out of this film.

    by Die_Hard_without_the_shirt

    Bruce Willis and Van Damme are perfect for the sequel, and i agree with JCVD, keep Seagal out of it. He is just embarrassing to watch these days. He is so fat. It's like watching Kevin James doing a serious action film. I don't understand how Vern can still watch his films.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:04 a.m. CST

    wasn't the first one a flop?

    by KonkBob

    I didn't see it, just sayin. did it even recoup its budget?

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:05 a.m. CST

    I still don't get it

    by DirkAngerReloaded23

    I finally got around to seeing the Expendables the other night and I thought it was just outright terrible; this coming from someone who loves action/adventure movies. It was basically 2-3 good action scenes strung between one of the worst plots in recent movie history. I realize that it was supposed to be just a fun shoot em up movie that you're just supposed to watch with your brain turned off but goddamn was it bad. Also the Mickey Rourke "woe is me" scene has to be one of the most painfully bad scenes to watch in recent movie history. I applaud the idea of what Stallone was trying to do, & God knows i love the guy & most of his accomplishments, but would it have killed him to actually have a decent story behind all the action, I mean something remotely believable? One last nitpicky thing, the guy who played the dictator, David Zayas I think his name is from Dexter, is obviously of Latin American decent. So how come his Spanish accent is so fucking terrible the whole movie? He sounded like an average white guy trying to imitate a Spanish accent. It was just weird as hell and just took me out of the movie even more.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Expendables was a let down...

    by Judge Briggs

    It was boring... had potential but boring. Drug cartel- really? Nobody cares about drug cartels anymore... *yawn* ... the plot was shitty and direct-to-dvd worthy. Even the action sequences were yawn worthy. However, I did enjoy Rambo. I need to peep the extended version!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Tough guy actors who should not be in sequel...

    by brocknroll

    Here's my list of who should not be in the sequel: Channing Tatum, Vin Diesel, Jake Gyllenhaal, and Jeremy Renner. I hope Sly doesn't get any of them or else the film would be for women instead of men.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:13 a.m. CST

    274 MILLION WORLDWIDE!!! Another 100m on dvd...

    by ABking

    The Expendables is on its way to over 100 million on dvd/blu-ray/rentals and it did another 274 million worldwide at the box-office. All on an 80-85 million dollar budget. The movie was a smash. EXPII will be MUCH BIGGER (about 400 MILLION WORLDWIDE).

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Billy blanks in the next one

    by Dark_Equalizer

    Or Micheal Dudicoff ( or whatever he's called ).

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Actors who SHOULD be in the sequel...

    by brocknroll

    My list of actors who should be in the movie: Kurt Russell, JCVD, Dwayne Johnson, Tyler Mane, and Al Pacino (for a villain role).

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Bring. It. On.

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Loved the first, can't wait for the second. Suck it,haters!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:34 a.m. CST

    We won't be seeing Carl Weathers in this

    by Redhead_Redemption

    Him and stalone had a falling out over the use of apollo creed's imagine in Rocky Balboa (the said footage can be found in the deleted scenes - with carl's face blurred out) Weathers apparently wanted a shit ton of money just for stallone to use his likeness and stallone said no. In terms of the rocky films, I'd love to see Mr T appear in the Expendables too, not the goofy Mr T of today though, I want the rocky 3 Mr T, you know the one that was a dick and not a parody of himself

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:37 a.m. CST

    damn dirty ape

    by BlaGyver

    Damn straight. I took my bud to see a double feature of The Losers and Kick Ass for his birthday this year and that was the most fun moviegoing night of 2010 for me.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:37 a.m. CST

    CLINT EASTWOOD as lead villain would be a hoot.

    by JDanielP

    Add Kurt Russell, Dwayne Johnson, and Jackie Chan.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:40 a.m. CST

    My casting.

    by hallmitchell

    This is who i would like to see and there is a realistic chance they might be. 1. Vernon Wells - Commando and Road Warrior. 2. Mr T. - Just being badass. 3. Carl Weathers. 4. Paul Hogan. 5. Lee Majors - Six Million dollar man.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Exendables was enjoyable but have to agree highly flawed

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    Really dug some of the action and its clear from that Inferno documentary that Sly is very dedicated to his craft. Oh and Dolph was awesome. But, the characters were uniformly dull and there some of the worst dialogue ever committed to celluloid. Not sure what went wrong as Rambo was certainly a better film. THAT SAID. I still eagerly anticipate a sequel just hope the script is a lot stronger.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:47 a.m. CST

    I can't get too excited about this

    by _Venkman

    The first one was a real let down

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Stallone's mentioned trying to get

    by BlaGyver

    Hulk Hogan, Chuck Norris, Vin Diesel, Mr. T, Carl Weathers....couple others I think?

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Mad Groper re- Chuck Norris

    by sweeneydave

    Norris would be great but he's 70. If he did it, it would probably be just a cameo.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Flop does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    konkbob, no EXPENDABLES certainly wasn't a flop it was a pretty major commercial success (not so much critical success tho)...<P> You're perhaps thinking of SCOTT PILGRIM which was released the same weekend and absolutely tanked like a lead balloon.<p> Funnily enough when Sly did his EXPENDABLES Q&A on this site, Edgar Wright wrote in to him with an offer to 'go and see yours if you go and see mine'...<p> Sly's response - he didnt seem to know who the fuck Edgar Wright was! haha.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:04 p.m. CST

    JCVD and Seagal

    by Hipshot

    Seagal simply shot off his mouth too many times about how he can kick everyone's ass. Said that about Norris, and Bob Wall (a Norris student), made him take it back. Kept saying it about JCVD, and Van Damme confronted Seagal about it at one of Stallone's parties, and Seagal backed down. The man is smart, and has serious Aiki skills, but is a bully and a liar, and the biggest asshole I've ever met.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:04 p.m. CST

    SLY>ARNIE

    by tommyleespenis

    I think the days that the audience wanted to see Seagal in a movie with these guys is long gone....On another note bring on JCVD....Arnie as a villain would be awesome I can totally see it..in a fistfight I'd give the edge to stallone...can arnie even run anymore???!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Rather RAMBO 5 than Expendables 2

    by thommcg

    At least have proper FX work this time. Expendables was truly dire.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Expendables was pretty terrible.

    by the new transported man

    Needed much better dialogue, editing, & plot, plus a dialogue coach for Dolph. The movie died a little every time he talked. I think it suffered from Shitty Screenplay Syndrome.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Michael Dudikoff

    by Hipshot

    The story is that no one even knows how to find him. Whether that means he went to a monastery, a trailer park, or some exotic part of the world...no idea.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:09 p.m. CST

    I enjoyed The Expendables like I enjoy my lunch

    by sweeneydave

    It wasn't like dining at a steakhouse. It was more like Carls Jr. That's a compliment. Carls Jr is good eats. Now, I'm not gonna say that it was a Bacon Western Cheeseburger, but it was at least a Big Carl. And sometimes, a Big Carl is really all I want. It certainly wasn't a fish sandwich.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Chuck Norris, Van Damme, and Carl Weathers

    by lv_426

    sound like good additions to me. I also second the vote Bruce Willis and for Arnie's merc team to be involved in the sequel.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    DirectorsCut does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    I personally really enjoyed EXPENDABLES, a good, simplistic action flick with a very high body count. But I watched it at home in the Dojo with a few beers.. perhaps if I'd made a trip to the cinema to watch it I might have expected more and been disappointed.<p> I also think that there's a better film in there waiting to come out and I will definitely be keen to rewatch it in DIRECTORS CUT form.<p> The first change i'd make would be to move the Somali pirate encounter to pre-credits - like a James Bond opener. Same trick LETHAL WEAPON II pulled. Kick the movie off with a real bang. You could then have the credits appear over the shots of the Expendables on their Harleys.<p> I'd also definitely re-cut the Dolph vs Jet Li fight - that was way over-edited.<p> Finally i'd finesse the final night time shootout to try and make the 'geography' of the action a little clearer.<p> Don't know how much cutting room floor material Sly has but I hope he can improve the film with some patient tweaking now that the release deadline isnt breathing down his neck.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:13 p.m. CST

    It would never happen, but Clooney would be fun

    by lv_426

    for a villain or lone assassin in Expendables 2. He could do a more outlandish version of the Golgo 13 type of character he played in The American. Seriously, that film is like a live action Golgo 13 movie with a little more realism added in for good measure.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:15 p.m. CST

    I am sorry to say it but..

    by Double M

    The Expendables really kinda sucked. Like badly. I finally got around to watching it recently, and I so wanted to like it. Usually when I go in with a positive feeling, I at least enjoy the experience, but this shit was terrible. I actually already have forgotten the plot, and who lived or died. Stone Cold was the best character, imo, and I believe that they killed him off. Lame.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:16 p.m. CST

    mel gibson and old spice guy would be cool

    by ORIONgods

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST

    old spice guy + Mr Muscle

    by lostboytexas

    vs all the old washed up actors from the 80's/90's

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST

    sweeneydave

    by fpuk99

    That is the most coherent film review I've seen on here in years. Thanks. :)

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST

    konkbob, boxofficemojo.com is a handy site

    by MattmanReturns

    $275 million worldwide on an $80 million budget is certainly not a flop.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Seagal can kick a cheeseburger's ass

    by MattmanReturns

    But that's about it.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Hell with Damme, let's cast michael Jai White instead.

    by Stalkeye

    Damme's ego has proven that the fuckle from bussels is not a team player and should not be given another offer, especially since he turned down the role for the first exp film. I rather even have vernon wells than that douche......OK, I was joking with the suggestion of Wells.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:25 p.m. CST

    The Expendables was TERRIBLE

    by The Krypton Kid

    Stallone surrounded himself with up and coming action talent and promised to provide them a stage to shine, but instead he gave all the screen time to himself and Statham. The Expendables was basically just another STALLONE EGO-FEST. Terrible writing, terrible acting, terrible directing: The Expendables just plain sucked.

  • It's inspiring, I tell you.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:29 p.m. CST

    The Expendables tried to be the helicopter scene...

    by The Krypton Kid

    of Predator, but failed miserably. All the one-liners in the Expendables were painfully forced and not at all funny. In the span of five minutes, the Predator helicopter sequence established a team of cool, unique characters. Stallone couldn't accomplish that in an hour and a half.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Van Damme should be a bad guy if anything

    by _Venkman

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:31 p.m. CST

    But honestly the first one wasn't good so...

    by _Venkman

    Don't waste the time and money it'd take to make a new one and just make something original

  • I would love to see Sly cast Burt Reynolds in the next film...The man was the #1 action star in the world from the 70's into the early/mid 80's. I could see Reynolds have a similar role that Willis had in the first movie. Another choice (but far was likely) would be to cast Clint Eastwood. Some people may forget, but Reynolds and Eastwood (at one point Reynolds was the bigger star) were the two biggest box office attractions in the world.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Damn you sweeneydave

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

    I started my diet yesterday and here you are go on about Carl's Jr... Excellent analogy, though!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:32 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    "Terrible writing, terrible acting, terrible directing" <p> Krypton Kid you've obviously not seen that many action flicks!<p> Those criticisms could be applied to 99% of films in the genre! The strength of an action flick relies on the coolness of its premise, the charisma (rather than acting chops) of its stars, but mostly... the action.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Clooney WHAT the fuck???

    by piltorp75

    What does old George have to add to a 80 action homage (or what ever it tried to be...) In a fuckn ER fest yes...in a Stallone movie NO fuckin way!!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:41 p.m. CST

    PREDATOR helicopter scene

    by the new transported man

    Exactamundo. PREDATOR does it all right.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Mel Gibson would be cheap and available nowadays

    by piltorp75

    And very good as a Psycho Bad Guy!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Get a CHINESE bad guy team for part 2

    by piltorp75

    with Donnie Yen, Chow Yun Fat, Bolo Young, Simon Yam AND Jackie and connect it with Jet Li somehow.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Cobra--Kai

    by The Krypton Kid

    And it was lacking in all those departments too! Sorry, but I'm not going to lower my standards for a subpar action flick that is a better fit for late night Cinemax than the local cineplex. Predator is a great action flick, Die Hard is a great action flick, First Blood is a GREAT action flick. Expendables is absolute garbage. The characters were one-dimension hulking bodies. Where was the charisma? None of the characters aside from Stallone, Statham, and maybe Rourke were given enough screen time to display any charisma. I will concede there were some cool action sequences, but hardly enough to lift the film above the cheesy schlock it had already established itself as.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Can't wait...

    by Wes_Reviews_

    Very excited about this one. A few things I'd like to see... 1) Pull the cameras back and let us SEE the action. Don't overuse quick-cut editing. Stallone knows how to choreograph action scenes. He of all people shouldn't have to resort to cheap tricks like that quick-cut Jason Bourne garbage. That stuff is for hack directors who don't know how to direct action. 2) Frank Stallone, Stan Bush, and/or Survivor on the soundtrack. Been far too long since we've had any of these guys on a Stallone flick soundtrack. Now is the time for a return of the inspirational, but kick-ass rock song. 3) Dream cast in various large and small roles would include any of the following... Arnold (larger role) Chuck Norris (SOMEWHERE in the movie, even if just a cameo) JCVD Michael Biehn Kurt Russell Michael jai White Sho Kosugi (still looked great in Ninja Assassin last year) Danny Trejo (thus ending the ridiculous Machete/Expendables fan quarrels) Tom Berenger Bill Paxton (it'd be nice to see him play a military/badass role again, wouldn't it?) Rutger Hauer Wesley Snipes Sam Elliott Kurtwood Smith Bolo Yeung Bill Duke Jesse Ventura Michael Dudikoff Sven-Ole Thorsen Miguel Ferrer Peter Weller

  • It was, in fact, often bad and looked terribly cheap. The Statham/Charisma Carpenter basketball court subplot was hilarious, like something out of COBRA. And while I admired Sly giving Dolph a shot, uh, Dolph was...pretty terrible. If they're gonna do a sequel they have got to add some more solid actors, like Michael Jai White, and amp up Jet Li's role. Half those other dudes in the first film, I have no clue who the fuck they are. Give me some real STARS and don't just make it another Sly/Statham movie, because that shit was boring.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Dolph was terrible and unintelligible

    by The Krypton Kid

    I hardly understood a word he said. And his acting was abysmal, and that's by Stallone standards.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:10 p.m. CST

    i prefer Segal over Van Damn anyday

    by Weapon M

    Van Damn movies are fun and all but I would rather see Steven Seagal in this movie. I think it would be more interesting having Seagal play a role in this movie. A dream would be to have them both in the film. Van Damn shouldn't be dictating anything. He should be happy he could still be in a block buster film. He acts like the pre-Madonna they say he is if this is true. I always liked Seagal movies better than Van Damn. Maybe Stallone can recut the movie afterwards and have Seagal do a cameo with him or something. That would be pretty cool. A scene with just Seagal and Stallone. Maybe there could be a scene where there's an inside joke in there. Like he asks Seagal if he wants to go with him and Jet Li on a mission, and Seagal says, no me and (whoever) have some history, count me out. And Stallone says "Come on man! Put it behind you! We need you on this one." and Seagal rebuffs him. and Stallone says maybe next time? "Maybe." I think that in itself would be so cool. That would be the equivalent to Swartzeneggers cameo in part one! would KICCCCKK ASSS!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Losers was a loser of a flick.

    by Bob

    Expendables had it's flaws, but man, The Losers sucked total ball sack. The opening had some great stuff, but by the 45 min mark, it just totally fell apart. Then the non-ending ending was like WTF? You basically set up the whole second half of the movie leading up to taking out the bad guy, only when you get there, you have him escape at the last second, only to end up right back in the same situation. A movie with no payoff. Fab.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:15 p.m. CST

    ARNOLD'S TEAM: BILL DUKE, SONNY LANDHAM, JESSE VENTURA

    by Darth Busey

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:16 p.m. CST

    FEATURE KNIFE FIGHT BETWEEN JEAN-CLAUDE VAN DAMME AND DOLPH LUNDGREN

    by Darth Busey

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    MOVIE BEGINS WITH FLASHBACK ARM WRESTLING MATCH

    by Darth Busey

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:18 p.m. CST

    BETWEEN SLY (OVER THE TOP) AND ARNOLD (WHAT'S DA MATTUH?)

    by Darth Busey

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:18 p.m. CST

    MICKEY ROURKE TAKES A SHOWER

    by Darth Busey

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:19 p.m. CST

    I do NOT get the negativity.

    by billybigbollocks

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST

    I am the 1st to admit when a Sly film is bad BUT

    by billybigbollocks

    I genuinely left the cinema feeling like I'd just watched the best action movie ever made! Seriously what the fuck is with the negativity here? The Expendables fucking ROCKED!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:32 p.m. CST

    I wanna see KURT RUSSELL in the line-up this time around!

    by Cervantes

    That would seal the deal for me. He can still cut it.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Action does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Krypton Kid, cheers for the response dude. I said 99% of action flicks... and the ones you mentioned PREDATOR and DIE HARD are very much in that fabled 1%. They are the Rolls Royce flicks of the genre - they are the exception, not the norm.<p> They are both also what 20 years old now? I guess it's not entirely fair to compare EXPENDABLES against them, just like it wouldn't be fair to compare every new sci fi film that comes out against 2001, or every historical epic against SEVEN SAMURAI.<p> If you look at the action flicks of recent years, it's a fairer comparison. And then we're talking about flicks like PREDATORS, DIE HARD 4, GAMER, WANTED, CRANK... and in that company EXPENDABLES doesn't seem so bad!<p>

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:39 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    And I should say that those films above are rare ones that got a theatrical release, a large portion of flicks in the action genre are 'straight to dvd'.<p> I'm just mightily impressed by Stallone, especially if you watch the docs or the directors commentaries that go with ROCKY BALBOA, RAMBO, and EXPENDABLES. The guy, by all rights, should have hung up his gloves years ago but he's punishing his ageing body and putting hardcore movies out there for those of us who like that style of film. More power to him.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:51 p.m. CST

    It is a fair comparison, Cobra

    by The Krypton Kid

    because First Blood, Die Hard, and Predator starred the same men featured in Expendables. We're not really so far removed from the era those films were released in. And Expendables was touted as being a throwback to the glory days of action. Certainly a worthy effort, but it fell far below the bar. Even by today's stardards I'd say it's a subpar action film. I'd take a Rundown or Undisputed 2 over The Expendables any day.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Very True Cobra Kai

    by MRJONZ72

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 1:54 p.m. CST

    But I do appreciate your perspective and remarks, Cobra

    by The Krypton Kid

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Enjoyed the first, look forward to the sequel!

    by JuanSanchez

  • First thing first I loved the scene where Sly and Jason Stratham was in thier plane. Jason gets into that outside cockpit and launch that attack on all of the baddies on the dock or whatver u want to call it. But I found that a lot of the action scenes esp the night ones were not that well shot/edited and I've seen so many actions films that have night scenes and were shot better. But my biggest gripe was u have some legit martial artists in the film.. Li, Lundgren & Gary Daniels. Throw in the great fight choreographer Corey Yeun..now I dont know how much pull he had ont he film. But has worked with Li of course before and Stratham on the Transporter. But I found all thier fighting scenese shot piss poor. Granted I do realize that Lundgrend is not his young self anymore. But still Ive seen people with far less skill sometimes none look much better on film. Then u have Gary Daniels outside of that wicked kick at the end by Jett Li on Gary Daniels..pretty much everthing preceding that was dissappointed..or could had been better..but because of week editing.. was left disappointed..maybe that is just a personal thing..cause I know of how good GD is and to finally see him in a Hollywood movie instead of pretty much straight to video stuff and to see that on the screen I was highly dissapointed.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST

    The Execrables gets a sequel? Really?

    by Lang The Cat

    Talk about sloppy seconds. This film was Uwe Boll bad and they want to make another. Can Homeland Security please list this as being a terrorist threat and put a stop to it? Can we get Joel Schmaucher to direct and start comparing this to his time with ABT? Can we dig up the corpse of Charles Nelson Reilly and give this film the action star it deserves? <br><br> I recently sat through the films from a second year film class and NONE of them were worse than The Execrables and most were much better. If Stallone is that bereft of talent and needs money that badly he should be out on Sunset Blvd giving hand jobs for 10 bucks each, it much more honest work.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Steve Austin can't come back

    by brocknroll

    If anybody wants Stone Cold Steve Austin to come back for the sequel, he can't. Remember, Austin got burned to death by a take down from Randy Couture in the fire. Remember that?

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Get THE ROCK! He needs this movie

    by estacado1

    It's the only movie tht can revive his career.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST

    A sequel to a shitty movie

    by elsewhere

    Not surprised really. The TRansformers got a trilogy.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST

    President Obama needs to pardon Wesley Snipes immediately

    by Julius Dithers

    and Linda Hamilton should get combat-fit again.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 2:31 p.m. CST

    I hope they make this one fun and have a good plot this time around

    by Quadrillionaire

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 2:32 p.m. CST

    because the first was BOOORRRRING

    by Quadrillionaire

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 2:45 p.m. CST

    The Red Power Ranger for the sequel!!

    by Tarantinos_Forehead

    don't need to see the actor. just have a power ranger in the group. ALSO get a chick in there like Cynthia Rothrock or some other kickass female

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Genghis Khan himself Al Leong

    by R.J. MacReady

    Come on Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Big Trouble In Little China, Action Jackson, They Live, Death Warrent, A-team, MacGyver, The Fall Guy, Magnum P.I., Knight Rider. Everyone knows his work, and his face. If anyone has earned his stripes in 80s action it's this guy. Mr Stallone put this man in your movie and I'll buy a ticket. Doesn't matter what he does, he's equally awesome waving around a meat cleaver, torturing some chained up hero or snacking on a chocolate bar. Al Leong is the shit.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Expendables 2 Fantasy Casting

    by BlaGyver

    This is some fun shit. It's not like casting the Hobbit movies or the new Batman movie where people can be like "that's a terrible fucking idea." As long as an actor has a shred of action movie cred he's fair game, and just imagining all these guys in the same movie is getting me hype.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Linda Hamilton

    by BlaGyver

    SHIT that's a good idea.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Even the action wasn't that great

    by _Venkman

    Rambo had awesome action scenes....but this movie just felt comical...

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 3:04 p.m. CST

    loved the first film

    by JaredP

    i hope they have chuck norris in the next one and carl weathers mr. t hulk hogan all the great action heroes of the 80s bring back memories from my childhood

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Jackie Chan is THE GREATEST 80's action star!

    by UGG

    And need's to be in this somehow. I like the idea of getting the like's of Donnie, Sammo, Yuen Biao even Simon Yam and some Chow Yun Fat, as bad guy's or something.

  • Didn't he break his neck or something? As the movie finished I got the feeling he was at times most likely propped up and drooling in the editing booth just trying to get the thing finished.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Arnie would be great, sure

    by Box_Bruceleitner

    But this movie really should not go forward without Kurt Russell. Without him it just shouldn't happen, it wouldn't be right.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Jackie Chan & Kurt Russel

    by CDN_Wolf_eh

    Gotta put Jackie in there! ... and lets not forget Kurt (Big Trouble in Little China, Soldier, Tango & Cash) So we have Slys Team (Jet, Dolph, Stamos, and the other two guys) VS Arnies Team (Jackie, Kurt, JKVD, Vin Diesel and Chuck Norris) Ding, Ding ... come out fighting!!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Shô Kosugi, Dudikoff, Marc Singer,

    by Dennis_Moore

    Kurt Thomas, Keith Vitali. Heh heh...

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Dammit.

    by SebastianHaff

    Here is a franchise that has such potential. But it's ruined by cheesy humor, "hip" shaky cam action (fucking annoying!), and unimaginative action scenes. <br><p> I hope if they actually make a sequel, instead of playing all cutesy like he did in the first one, Stallone makes Expendables II like a modern Wild Bunch. Pluck all these old timer manly actors out of their shitty movie ruts, give them something to fight for, send 'em out in a blaze of blood, guts, and glory. Did a single good guy die in The Expendables? Jesus, it was a fucking cartoon. Maybe that was the point. But Sly is better than this. The Wild Bunch, man! This needs to be the fucking Wild Bunch!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 5:07 p.m. CST

    You skipped through the last 1/3 scorchy?

    by Johnno

    It would've made more sense to skip through the first 1/2. What Expendables did wrong was waste our time looking at some plot points that involved women... We don't care about Statham's girlfriend, and we certainly don't care about the general dude's daughter either. There is no need to give women any sort of role larger than being a kidnap victim or throwaway female assassin. Unless it's Sarah Conner coming back and ready to kick ass. Also, Arnie and Willis need bigger roles. Or at least they need to develop them more to pay off in the third part of the Expendables trilogy. I think Van Damme should be a leader of his own mercs alongside Sly and Arnie. Jackie Chan also should be in here somehow. So should Segal and Norris. Vin Diesel and the Rock would also make welcome additions under Van Damme's unit. Basically the way to fix the sequel is to take the second 1/2 of Expendables 1 and make that the entire movie. More action, more kicking ass, and a plotline servicable enough as an excuse to get all of the above accomplished. Also the movie should not be about some particular people. Expendables 1 for all intents and purposes was focused on Sly and Statham. This is WRONG! Expendables 2 should be a team movie! Somewhat along the lines of the Oceans 11, 12, 13 ones, where all the characters have a presense and contribute to everything that is going on despite that Clooney is still the focus. Take note that. I understand that Expendables turned out the way it did because it was hard for Stallone to gets all these big stars scheduling together to accomplish it and had to make the most of their avialability, but now that the first film is a financial hit, there's plenty of room to make the next one outstanding.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 5:22 p.m. CST

    The Re-Edit Will Have Scenes Where The Light Is On In The Room!!!

    by Drunken Busboy

    Don't get me wrong, I loved this movie! But a lot of the scenes were too dark!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Tiny Lister Needs To See Some Expendables Action!

    by Drunken Busboy

    Gave the most touching performance in THE DARK KNIGHT! ;)

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Agreed , Skarekroe

    by SayNoToRemakes

    His style in Expendables and Rambo ( more Expendables) can be a bit annoying. I was really annoyed also by the way Stallone decided to re-introduce Rambo to his audience after 20+years. I felt he should have gone with something more similar to Rambo III. Just my thoughts...

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Seagal just isn't FUN to watch anymore

    by sith_rising

    just finished Machete and he sucked. I mean, he's always sucked, but I still enjoy the hell out of Above the Law, Marked for Death, Hard to Kill, Out for Justice, even the Under Sieges and Glimmer Man and the awful On Deadly Ground. But he's lost it. Give us Van Damme, Gary Daniels, Ray Park, Batista, Bobby Lashley, Sho Kosugi, Al Leong, and "Mack and Billy" from Predator. Don't fuck around.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Michael Dudikoff and Reb Brown should be cast

    by Gorgomel

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Henry Silva and Richard Lynch as the main villains

    by Gorgomel

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 6:22 p.m. CST

    "Expendables" was a collosal disappointment. Crap.

    by Behemoth

    I was nuts about seeing this, but I'm not such a sheep that I'm going to admit something is "great" just because I wanted it to be. This movie was just utterly horrible. The action was dull, the story terrible, the acting horrendous. It was a huge step back for Stallone after all the goodwill built up from "Rambo." Tremendous disappointment.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 8:07 p.m. CST

    How can anyone complain about these movies?

    by cgih8r

    waahh waahh I got to see an action movie with stallone and a bunch of old action stars. (Sniff sniff) the script seemed rushed (sniff sniff) the editing seemed uneven (waah waah) the acting was terrible (sniff sniff) the characters were one dimensional. Oh Cry me a fuckin river you buncha homos! Expendables 2 is going to make BANK with JCVD and the returning cast. The rest of us are going to enjoy the hell out of it for what it is and there's nothing you can do about it.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 8:14 p.m. CST

    chow yun fat

    by tom

    Fucking serisly this movie is pointless without chow yun fat. The most bad ass muthr Fer W/ two guns. Fuck Van damn. Fuck segal.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Rambo 5 > Expendables 2

    by NeoDevilbaneX

    I enjoyed Expendables for the most part, but sign me up for more Rambo. Rambo (4) was brilliant.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 8:44 p.m. CST

    More importantly, what about Arnie?

    by NeoDevilbaneX

    Isn't he out of office now?

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Martin Kove - John Kreese to you Punk!

    by SmokieGeezer

    America's Greatest Hero should be Included along with Terry "I like that one Johnnie! I'm gonna use that" Silver and Fuck me I almost forgot....Karl Thommason himself Treat Williams- The Substitue. Thats another Three Badass's for you Sly. I should be in Hollywood.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 9:19 p.m. CST

    BRING BACK TREAT WILLIAMS FOR THE SUBSTITUTE V- UK VACATION

    by SmokieGeezer

    Synopsis - Karl Thommason comes to London, and Kicks Ass again. Join my online campaign to get MR.PLINKETT to review The Greatest Trioligy since THE ROCKYS- SUBSTITUTE II-IV SmokieGeezer@Yahoo.Co.UK.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 9:26 p.m. CST

    The first one was garbage

    by Bobo_Vision

    I expect the 2nd one to also be garbage. These films are the nails in the coffin of the 80's action genre.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Stallone...

    by leisuredrummer

    If your listening, bring Chuck Norris in, please. Even if just for a cameo!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Wow, didn't realize this movie made that kind of money...

    by SK229

    You can bet your ass now that they have a taste of what getting these guys into the same movie can do in terms of box office that they're only imagining TWICE the gross for a sequel if they can get Ahnald, Willis, and a few others more screen time as well as bringing in some new names. And they'd be right about that, because overseas, it'd be a FUCKING BONANZA, plus more interest here, and I think the sequel has the potential to be something truly great. The first one was really only a proof of concept... and to show that there's still huge interest in these kinds of action stars and their films. Honestly, even if the movie isn't that great, I just like Stallone and think he deserves this success... I just wish he'd let someone else polish the script and take more time with his direction and editing. Rambo was fucking awesome and brutal, though... I think that's the best of his comeback flicks.

  • "Some mothafuckas always trying to iceskate uphill"

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:50 p.m. CST

    So... Van Damme isnt insisting on a starring role this time?

    by Sean Finnesey

    Chow yun Fat could eally use a decent role to reafirm why he is such a badass.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Really....

    by Sean Finnesey

    FUCKING GAY ASS KEYBOARD!

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Just make one change....

    by MARKED4DEATH

    to the sequel Sly. Stop with the fucking CGI blood for Christ's sake. It marred the action sequences in the excellent Rambo and did nothing to help The Expendables. Go "old school" and get back to using squibs.

  • Jan. 18, 2011, 11:56 p.m. CST

    Sequel needs Roddy Piper and Jesse Ventura!

    by Jobacca

    Have them reprise their characters from TAG TEAM. Look it up bitches!!!

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Martin Kove...

    by Wes_Reviews_

    I second this.

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 1:12 a.m. CST

    Get Shane Black to do a script polish

    by catlettuce4

    Or write the entire thing. Seriously. You want it to be Predator type cool characters and memorable lines? That's how to do it. (Speaking of which, why didn't Rodriguez get Shane to write Predators so it might have actually been engaging? As a "fan" he must have known Shane Black was a major reason why the original worked.) But for Expendables 2, just get Bruce and Arnold back for bigger roles and I'll be happy. Deliver on the promise of the scene in the church from the first. And JCVD in this would be awesome as well, preferably as a villain or a guy on Arnie's team.

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 4:15 a.m. CST

    Yo, get SONNY LANDHAM, Sly!

    by Luke_Cage

    One of the baddest motherfuckers to grace the screen. Oh yeah, I second Michael Jai White. Word

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 5:26 a.m. CST

    That scene with Mickey Rourke, Sly, and Statham was so corny...

    by Bobo_Vision

    ...I could tell the movie was going to suck after that scene. The 2nd film should have a scene where they are all in the men's room taking a piss at the urinal, and then they take time to compare the length of each other's penis.

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 7:27 a.m. CST

    I think Sonny Landham is wheelchair bound...

    by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies

    I second catlettuce4's suggestion to get Shane Black to do a script polish.

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Had a feeling there'd be a Director's Cut coming.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 11:01 a.m. CST

    If you want a nutter.....

    by jinste

    You have to have Gary Busey,since he is a headcase offscreen as well as on.Remember his performance at the Oscars a few years ago?Go to Youtube and refresh your memory.Also,how about that guy that played the character Dredger in the recent Sherlock Holmes movie?About six foot ten of solid Badass!!!!!Another possibility-how about Michael Chiklis from The Shield?

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 11:41 a.m. CST

    almost as important as the casting...

    by UndisputedVipers

    If I were Sly, I would definitely try to find a different writer. I would also have all the main actors/actresses go through a month-long martial arts course and bring in the fight choreographer from Invisible Target. The reasons The Expendables was memorable were Statham's fights, the final action sequence but, mostly, Terry Crews. They could make way more over-the-top fight sequences by going with someone from Hong Kong or Thailand. I think the reason movies like Rumble In The Bronx and Invisible Target weren't huge successes in the US is NOT because US audiences don't want to see real action scenes. I think those films missed the template and stars to sell tickets. The way Hollywood seems to be combating On-Demand, Redbox, and Blu-ray is to use 3-D and CGI. A perfectly-filmed fight scene is something people will want to see again and again on the big screen and will tell their friends.

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Maybe Stallone will give Lucas a call....

    by v3d

    .. and see if he can get himself a digital Bruce Lee.

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 12:14 p.m. CST

    How about another 80's action "star"

    by v3d

    Cynthia Rothrock. Even a cameo as a former flame of one of the main characters would be a nice nod to the genre.

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Kurt Russell was approached last time.

    by hallmitchell

    He "doesn't do assemble pieces."

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 1:04 p.m. CST

    hallmitchell, regarding Kurt...

    by Wes_Reviews_

    Stallone said it was Kurt's manager that gave the "no ensemble pieces" line. Not Kurt himself. For all we know, the agent never even approached Kurt. Probably didn't think there was much money to be made by his client being in a cheesy action throwback full of "former stars" or whatever. Hopefully, the box-office of Expendables will have his agent reconsidering. BTW... Kurt already did an ensemble piece. Tombstone, is very much an ensemble movie.

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Good for you, Avi Lerner. Seagal can go fuck himself.

    by Knuckleduster

    Give me Van Damme any day.

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Wes-reviews, I think your correction of Hallmitchel is inaccurate

    by Lang The Cat

    True The Excerables was an ensemble piece, but I think is was an assemble piece, too. Badly assembled. <br> <br> Luckily, Kurt Russell for whatever reason passed on this bit of tripe.<br><br> Those who think complaining about story, direction, acting, writing and editing all in the same film would do better going back to watching the Mr. Universe competitions so they can quietly get their fill of oiled down muscle men and those of us who like film can watch stories with some depth. Any amount of depth.

  • Jan. 19, 2011, 11:32 p.m. CST

    how about...

    by crimsonmask

    Goldberg, Ice-T, Don "The Dragon" Wilson, Mark Decascos, Everitt McGill, Sean Bean, Roger Moore(lead villian?), Dirk Benedict

  • Jan. 20, 2011, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Lance Henriksen and Michael Ironside...

    by Wes_Reviews_

    ...also get my recommendations for Expendables 2.

  • Jan. 20, 2011, 9:08 a.m. CST

    by Tommy Dinh

    They should just really take the script and action over the top, because the last one was a MAJOR disappointment. Imagine The A-Team (2010) with these actors. Bring in Dwayne Johnson and John Cena!

  • Jan. 20, 2011, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Nothing but bad stories about Seagal on set

    by JoeSixPack

    Evidently Seagal has infuriated a lot of people over the years. Also, he's so fat he would have to play a whale in any new movie he does. He can stick to that stupid cop show he has now.