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Jan. 14, 2011, 5:17 p.m. CST
What, in the world Does all that mean? Are there "Aliens" in it!?
by JediRob
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But not unpleasant
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The press quotes seem very carefully constructed, but I wouldn't necessarily say based on their comments that it has nothing to do with ALIEN. Sounds like a different type of story, "mythology" and "universe," but maybe with aliens as a part of it. Or something. Who knows!
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the track record for destroying storied franchises has been extremely consistent, unfortunately. It still needs to be good, if not great. I hope Ridley has some gas in the tank.
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Interesting. I dig it.
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NICE!!! Leave Alien ALONE!!! BRING ON FRESH IDEAS!!! THANK YOU RIDLEY!!!
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Ridley comes to his senses. Prequels are doomed to failure, do something fresh and original. Rapace and Scott should be a good team IMO. Lindelof - not so much...
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I love the idea of Ridley doing an all-new scary sci-fi monster movie and all... ...But sure would have loved to see him play in the "Alien" universe one more time...
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i'll stay here for my news...i would rather have your guys thoughts on the matter then a p.r. machine pumping stuff into me
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It's a reboot, but now it's own concept. While I'm glad Ridley's decided not to rape the Alien franchise for it's namesake I'm also saddened that we won't get some backstory on the "Space Jockey" and the origin of the species. <br> My final question is "So does this mean no more Giger involvement?"
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I'm all about a standalone Alien movie. It's just not clear as to whether or not the Alien creatures are involved (or the Space Jockeys). And what about Giger? Hopefully he's still involved. If this is an entirely original sci-fi horror film set in the same universe and with the same creatures, I'm super-psyched.
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Was the guy who gave fire to the mortal's, so I'm guessing this has something to do with alien's Gene splicing and playing God or some sort of forbidden science maybe?
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her lip's won't work in space anyway.
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Alien franchise has been played out. A new franchise with Giger's involvement sounds cooler than we deserve. I was always skeptical about a prequel that featured the Space Jockeys as main characters. How is anyone supposed to relate to that? You realize how few movies there are out there with no humans?
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Not that I mind a big budget sci-fi film from the mind of Ridley Scott, I'm sure the movie will be terrific, but I was so excited about an ALIEN prequel. I really wanted to see a film that would bury the memory of RESURRECTION and bring that franchise back to it's former glory. Now that won't happen. I hope somewhere down the line they decide to continue with the series before the studio decides to make another ALIEN VS. PREDATOR.
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That's what they called SOLDIER, because David Peoples reckoned the story took place in the same universe as BLADE RUNNER. Arsequel, I say, having seen SOLDIER. Mind you, I'm glad this movie won't have an ALIEN tag on it.
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The Alien prequel and The Hobbit are the only two franchise continuations I have any real interest in, and now the Alien prequel is no more...original story-telling is ALWAYS welcome, but NOT at the expense of a film so many were highly anticipating...that's just selfish and crappy. <p> All these formally announced projects I've been waiting for keep evaporating...Jurassic Park IV, the Alien prequel, the Star Wars live-action TV series, (that franchise's only hope for redemption). And after I was having such a good day, when the Game Informer website had released new info and pics of Telltale's Jurassic Park game, and was watching a cool documentary on Ray Harryhausen...sigh spasm DEAD. <p> Well whatever. One more reason to cut off my own penis and send it to myself in the mail. FUCK you five-year-olds with your unending superhero crap.
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If it's not a prequel then how is it returning to the "genre"?? The genre is sci-fi horror so if it's not an alien prequel then why even base a sci-fi horror movie on this universe? Are the Aliens/xenomorphs even in it?? Seems like if you are going to return to this universe and have it be a horror movie you would at least tie it back to the overall concept or else what's the point.
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as opposed to Alien, which apparently is still a dead universe.
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will have the following stories.. movie one will take place prior to the events in the first and will be an origin film of a kind. movie two will has to end with aliens being wiped and the planet being smashed to pieces. and that is it
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Jan. 14, 2011, 5:40 p.m. CST
I didn't want an Alien PREQUEL, but I did want another Ridley Scott Alien movie
by SilentP
So I don't know if I should be happy or sad about this. Either way, I guess I'm still interested.
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Ridley isn't trying to rectify the mess that happened after "Aliens" with the 2 new prequels. That the storyline will give us a fresh new take & insight leading into the "Alien" film!
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I was never very keen on the original idea of explaining the origins of the space jockey. It's been a mystery for 30 years now, anything they could come up with would probably be a let down, especially since most theories are around the aliens being engineered bio-weapons. Plus I hate prequels, they're an overused gimmick and unnecessarily limit the scope of the story. So whatever this is, hopefully it will be more interesting than just a variation on the Alien/Aliens themes that the sequels fell into. I just hope they don't cast Angelina Jolie, she's a terrible actress. I always considered Sean Connery's Outland to be a pseudo-sequel to Alien as well. Should be interesting to see how well a film made 30 years later meshes up to the style and look of the original. I wonder if they'll use any of those weird sound effects that '70s movies used so often?
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"While 'Alien' was indeed the jumping off point for this project, out of the creative process evolved a new, grand mythology and universe in which this original story takes place". <p>ComingSoon.net http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=73281#ixzz1B2LrHxGm <p> "First, it started out as an Alien Prequel. But then it morphed into something "more original", an insider tells us -- even though Hollywood kept referring to the project as "The Alien Prequel" right up until today when Twentieth Century Fox officially announced the new Ridley Scott production as Prometheus is now bound for worldwide release on March 9th, 2012". <p>http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/ridley-scott-directing-prometheus-for-fox-noomi-rapace-locked-while-angelina-jolie-and-charlize-theron-circling-2nd-female-lead/ <p> Learn to read, you illiterate sluts!
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Obviously. If we'll be seeing hints of the alien in the creatures presented in the film, then again, it's a alien prequel, albeit, fresh, exciting and different.
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Bunch of bumbling boobs around here...
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I'm glad Ridley's coming back to sci-fi and is more enthused about it then three way with Denzel and Russel Crowe.
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The involvement of the Xenomorphs in this story is supposed to be a surprise. Possibly they'll be created at the end by some larger species. Either way Theron will totally die.
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Jan. 14, 2011, 5:56 p.m. CST
Alien DNA? I hope we get the same kind of production design for the human ships.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Set design and atmosphere was what popped into my mind when Ridley mentioned DNA. Hopefully the Space Jockey is "somebody" or means "something." Hopefully it's not just a science fiction movie with another dead Space Jockey in the frame. I could care less if the actual Alien was present. The Alien seems engineered, so maybe it's some kind of biological terraforming tool that becomes too efficient; maybe the Alien is the fire that the Space Jockey Prometheus brings; and stupid humans have to play with it.
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that we're going to be seeing hints of the "Alien" movie's DNA in the narrative make-up of the new film, NOT that the creatures in the new film will be related to the Xenomorphs...
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Because this is Aint it cool news and we must stick with the mantra of no Jolie or risk being looked down upon by the assholes who post here regularly.
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The alien life-cycle (egg, chest-burster, big alien) has been done to death. It kills any chance of screenplay creativity. We all know what's going to happen and how. An original movie instead of a prequel? Thank God. If only George Lucas had done that when he got back to making movies. But then 'George Lucas' and 'Original' are words that haven't gone together for 30 years.
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... I was much more excited when Jon Spaihts was working on the script. I understand that the project "morphed" into PROMETHEUS under Lindelof, but he's yet to impress me as a screenwriter (his scripts are just way too tidy and kinda banal). I'd prefer a sprawling sci-fi epic of ideas - which is what Spaihts wrote in PASSENGERS (and what basically got him hired for the ALIEN prequel). Unfortunately, that screenplay is so uncommercial that unless a major A-list director attaches to it, I doubt it'll ever get made.
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I still want more dinosaur movies.
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I mean, wtf is the space jockey!? I want to see a living space jockey! and the alien that bursts from him would look like a space jockey to an exent...We need this!
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Another sign he's be good for an Alien film. Lindelof, on the other hand, is just another of JJ Abram$ talentless cronies.
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Ridley Scott tempts us all with an Alien movie. Then it turns into yet another shitty monster in space movie. WOOO! Fuck you, Ridley! Fuck you very much.
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Jan. 14, 2011, 6:09 p.m. CST
Couldn't this have happened to Iron Man 3 instead?
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
Fucked up universe.
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Jan. 14, 2011, 6:10 p.m. CST
BTW, I'll continue to take this with no dignity whatsoever...
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
Up until and long after the date of release. Schmucks.
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Anybody involved with writing Star Trek 2009 needed a clip round the ear and a kick up the arse, not script duties on an Alien-based film. Oh well, it's going to look and sound incredible; plenty to study in the production and art design. Like Tron: Legacy :s
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that we will see art design similar to the ALIEN world as well as perhaps evidence of xenomorph presences... But not actually see any xenomorphs. (or the main focus of the story won't be in regards to them in particular) I'm ,frankly, enthusiastic.
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Jan. 14, 2011, 6:18 p.m. CST
Wasn't AVP the actual ALIEN Prequel???
by MARCEL_THE_NEGRO_PROJECTIONIST
I mean, they *do* get to earth way before Ripley's great grandmother's cunt is even ovulating. <p> I'm just saying.
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"If GIGER is involved as far as I'm concerned it is an ALIEN movie." By your logic... Species and Poltergeist 2 are both Alien films.
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I also prefer the scripts Spaihts has written next to Lindelof's. But isn't Passengers already being made by Gabriele Muccino and Keanu Reeves?
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Can some AICN writer just be clear, and state whether this film is going to have ANY relation the Alien films, or do you just simply not know? You have to admit that the news on this project has been shady on this point.
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Yeah!
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There, I said it first
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There, I said it first
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There, I said it first
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There, I said it first
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A NEW mythology and universe in which this ORIGINAL story takes place. This is not going to be an Alien film. It's Ridley Scott's Prometheus. It's gonna suck.
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Jan. 14, 2011, 6:29 p.m. CST
MR. BEAKS: PASSENGERS uncommercial???
by MARCEL_THE_NEGRO_PROJECTIONIST
It's a fantastic love story aboard an enormous, derelict (save for the cryogenically frozen crew) space craft. And it's an amazing script. I sincerely hope Keanu Reeves is able to finally get this sucker made!
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Lindelof... uh oh.
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When they are quoted as saying it has the same "DNA" as the Alien universe, it sounds to me like they're dumping the Alien and are making a horror film with a similar vibe set in a sci-fi environment. Nothing about the name "Prometheus" is evocative of the Alien, nor does it seem to have roots in the Joseph Conrad novels from which the vessels of the Alien universe were named. I guess it's just a wait-and-see issue now, though with the types of actresses they're lining up, I'm very apprehensive. I won't see a Jolie film and I'm almost as put off by Theron. Unfortunately for me, it seems the project is drifting farther and farther away from the Alien films and towards something different.
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Rather than shoehorn the Aliens into he's decided it's best for the story just to tell the story he WANTS to tell. Nice. I think the alien's story has been told. It's no longer fresh and frankly these creatures don't have the kind of depth for them to be presented in any other way. They do one thing very well, but that's it. So we get Ridley Scott doing more original Sci-fi. And that's GREAT news.
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it's NOT an Alien film. http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2011/01/14/alien-prequel-prometheus-jolie-theron-rapace/ They are quoting character names for Rapace and Theron/Jolie's characters, so it seems they have a bit more insight than Deadline. So if they're interpreting it correctly we're getting an entirely new Sci-Fi movie and not the Alien prequel we were promised. Perhaps Lindenhof is going to pull off a nice flick, but it is not likely to be an Alien film. It sounds like the Alien series is well and truly dead. Bummer.
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I'm kinda amazed that the Alien franchise was combined with Predator. I enjoyed predator 1 and 2 and love the original concept, but Alien came across as being a higher pedigree of sci fi with a stronger narrative. The franchises didn't really fit together in my mind. It probably would have made a cool match up if it was filmed in the 80's with James Cameron behind the lense but those days of cinema have come and gone. Movies now adays just don't have the same amount of flavor that they used to. I'm glad they are finally going their separate ways.
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Jan. 14, 2011, 6:43 p.m. CST
Hollywood Reporter is also confirming Alien prequel is dead.
by AlienFanatic
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/heat-vision/foxs-alien-prequel-morphs-prometheus-72052 Deadline was simply too vague for me.
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The idea of Ridley doing a big, epic sci-fi in a brand new universe is awesome. It's like Avatar, but with a good director this time.
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The Alien movies, and yes, even the AvP movies hinted at a much much bigger universe than just The World of Ellen Ripley. If you look at some of the scenes/ideas from Alien and Aliens, you've got a lot of hinted backstory, not of the characters, but of the universe they inhabit. <p>In one of the cut scenes from Alien, they mentioned that the crew basically all slept with each other, and Ripley and Lambert thought it was weird that no one had screwed Ash yet. The commentary told that they wanted to hint that normal sexual mores were very different in that time, and that the world (Earth and beyond) was a very different place. Ask this question: Where was the Nostromo coming from? Was there a mining facility with people working there? Who? Was it completely automated? Was it Pandora?! (just kidding.) Did Weyland-Yutani send other vessels near enough to LV-426 to pick up the signal and maybe get the crew infected? They seemed to know enough about The Alien for it to be the primary purpose for the mission. <p> Or, from Aliens: What made Arcturan poontang so good? Since they were talking about food, do you eat it? Is it some sort of delicacy? Or just a good lay? Did the blast at the colony wipe out The Derelict? I want to know more about what the Weyland-Yutani corporation does, besides dick around with Alien research. I want to see more adventures with the Colonial Marine Corps. <p> I guess what I'm getting at is that Alien is a huge universe to play around in, and that technically , an "alien" prequel might not have any Xenomorphs at all. You could have lots of adventures on the other side of the galaxy from LV-426. You could just have a crew working for Weyland-Yutani, and something happens to them. You could have another crew find The Derelict on Company orders, and "crew expendable" means that the crew gets expended. We could find out that the Nostromo is far from the first Earth ship to find The Derelict. That the Company knew about it all along, and they've been trying to get an Alien ever since.
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mystery is better; don't have to explain everything ala ep.1-3...
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You claimed that as far as you were concerned, if HR Giger was involved it was an Alien film. Sil in Species was designed by Giger as was the creature in the vision quest in Poltergeist 2. Do you consider either of those Alien films? Also, I fail to see the relevance in explaining what each film was about. Neither you nor I said anything even close to questioning the meanings of these movies.
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Sardonic, I wish I could agree with you. While I LOVE Ridley's visual sensibilities, I would not call him a great director. He's an incredible visualist, but he has always been more or less indifferent to his actors while he focuses on making the movie look pretty. Blade Runner was only successful after many, many years and it's primarily notable for its insane visuals and remarkable Syd Mead design. The actors in Alien succeeded DESPITE Ridley's lack of direction. The movie benefited from a solid story and remarkable art direction. (I mean incredible art direction.) Gladiator was a visually appealing, sprawling film with great sweeps of visual splendor and dramatics. But I would have wondered what a truly great director, like Robert Wise, would have been able to do with the same actors and technology. No, I think that the only way in which Prometheus will shine is if the story is rock-solid, the concept new, and if the art department dovetails nicely with Ridley's style. If not, I fear there will be another Event Horizon in the offing.
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Odd retort there, Darth. You stated that you felt that having Giger involved made it an Alien movie. He refuted it by giving you two movies with Giger designs that had nothing to do with Alien. You then called him out for saying neither is an Alien movie because it didn't have truck drivers in space. Um. 1. Do we know Prometheus WILL have truck drivers in space? 2. Did you know that the Truck Drivers concept was created by Giler and Hill, not Giger or O'Bannon? 3. He made a good point in that two movies that are largely considered junk (or at least B-pictures) were designed by Giger, inferring that Prometheus could fall into the "not so hot Giger pics" domain. I think his point was pretty valid and well made.
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Jan. 14, 2011, 7:05 p.m. CST
Sounds interesting. I hope it's still tied to the Alien Universe...
by _Venkman
even if barely
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she's fuckin woeful.. Therone will be a million times more believable in ANY role.
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everything he's made in recent years has been soooooo Meh!
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And it'll have Predators and Whedons.
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And it'll have Predators and Whedons.
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*Please insert more coins to play again* Ridlet Scott returning from meandering pastures mediocre to an ambitious sci-fi project, Giger aiding design, strong female actresses up front and center... if all a little familiar, then still very welcome. Looking forward to hearing more from this one. For all the glut of super heroics and fantasy yarns, it's still a disappointment to me that somehow the sci-fi genre didn't quietly side-step its way into the mainstream, big budget spotlight on their coat tails once more. It's not as if the genre isn't versatile enough to incorporate a myriad of styles and ideas. What with Avatar, Star Trek, Inception, even Moon, drawing crowds, hopefully some more Hollywood pixie dust will be granted to the talented to take a swing at ambitious, original projects.
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That franchise is DEAD - leave it be - there were two truly great films, one pretty decent film, one shitty film and two terrible spin-offs. Leave it alone. I'm so glad to here Scott is going after the original story. I'll be really glad to see a sci fi flick from Scott after all this time. He's got a fairly high bar to reach...
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Jan. 14, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST
@cgih8r RE: After watching Alien 1&2 recently for the first time...
by diseptikon
Predator 2's final scene inside of the predator's spacecraft set off a shit storm with fans as the predators had an alien skull on their wall of trophies. Eventually dark horse comics ran with the idea and had a very popular comic series with the concept of Alien vs Predator. Scan several years later, movies finally came about and disappointed everyone all over. Alien was in a class all by itself and then Aliens upped the anty by turning horror/scifi into scifi/action. Predator movies have been scifi/action from the get go so the marriage between the two seemed natural.
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Jan. 14, 2011, 7:17 p.m. CST
everyone has there own hopes and expectations for this film but
by vin_diggler
I think Ridley Scott is making a smart move here. He can never make the movie we all want, it's as simple as that. By calling it a prequel he was painting himself into a corner. He could never come up with a back story to satisfy all Alien fans out there. So instead he will give us a new Alien story that dosen't have to compete with the original classic. I would much rather see an original story that ties into the Alien universe without destroying the original film. If you have any doubt, think about the Star Wars prequels. We had so much expectations that it was impossible for Lucas to make the films that everyone wanted to see. Yet he tried and failed. I think Ridley has learned from Lucas' mistake.
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he can do whatever the fuck he wants with the franchise. I have absolute faith in him. even his "meh" shit is better than most other stuff.
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uh-oh
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Darth, please stop posting. You now seem to be trying to draw attention away from you talking yourself in circles by quoting Spaceballs. That's just sad.
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I also wouldn't call Ridley a "great" director either, but he's definitely competent. And compared to the kind of directors that 80% of sci-fi movies have, I'd say he's a vast improvement. And I absolutely think he's better than James Cameron. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a stereotypical Avatar-hater. I thought it was an entertaining and very visually interesting film with amazing SFX. But the guy's got hardly any writing ability (even if that just means his ability to CHOOSE a good story, a la Scorcese), and in my opinion he's more of an amazing special-effects guru with mediocre-at-best directing skills. All style, little substance. Ridley's a step above, but not a leap by any means.
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James Cameron has no writing ability? Jesus wept. Go and try and write The Terminator, Aliens, The Abyss, T2 or Avatar and get back to me. He's an amazing screenwriter. What you probably mean is you find his dialogue too on-the-nose (though I think it's perfect for B-movies given A-budgets). But to say the guy can't write, that's just crazy. Go and watch Avatar and the new Star Trek back to back. One written by a guy that COMPLETELY understands the medium, the other written by a pair of fanboy hacks. And Ridley Scott is several lightyears beyond competent. Alien, Blade Runner, Thelma and Louise, Kingdom of Heaven Dir Cut... manna from cinematic heaven.
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Wasn't that a Ridley Scott film?
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They haven't even cast the thing and it's coming out next year? So it's a standalone that doesn't have anything to do with Alien? The Space Jockeys are out? Alien DNA? Angelina Jolie? I am so fucking over this. Oh, and Ridley Scott hasn't had a truly GREAT movie in a long, long time. And no, GLADIATOR was not great.
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Jan. 14, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST
'Rising' is overused enough in actualy movie titles
by chronicallydepressedlemming
Without you adding it into headlines, you know.Please don't.
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Jan. 14, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST
OK...now get Cameron/Weaver and CONCLUDE the series!!!
by performingmonkey
Now who wouldn't put their cocks on a plate to see that??? Practical effects mixed with Cameron/WETA's mocap for a final Alien movie that sees Sigourney Weaver return as Ripley. Come ON, make this!!!!
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Maybe he couldn't get that HUGE budget he wanted and said "OK, how about this?" Maybe they gave him the money for a smaller film or something. I'm confused now.
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People are just pointing out that you're talking crap.
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I'm all for separating this from the Alien films. I've also been waiting to see Scott return to his former glory for quite some time. Here's hoping...
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so does this have anything to do with the alien universe? they weren't very clear about that. or is this just so sci-fi movie that has nothing to do with the alien? someone please find out.
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I can't fathom the amount of pull it takes to make Fox agree to remove a ready-made brand from a film.
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I totally agree with you. The man's way past his peak as a director. Ridley Scott has completely ruined any shred of credibility he once had by pulling this crap. It's a classic bait and switch con. He talks about doing wanting to do an Alien film, gets the hype machines going, then changes the movie to something else and probably hopes he can still leech off the Alien audience.
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Jan. 14, 2011, 8:08 p.m. CST
Apparently, a lot of people on the internet can't read
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
or comprehend what they're reading. <p> NEW UNIVERSE. NOT RELATED TO ALIEN. NOT AN ALIEN PREQUEL. How is this unclear in any way? <p> ENGLISH, MOTHER FUCKERS? DO YOU SPEAK IT?!?!
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some are saying this is a stand alone alien film, some are saying it's a totally new sci-fi universe having nothing to do with the alien we know about...which is it dammit? they dont make that very clear in the report.
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and as much as i like both ALIENS and PREDATOR and Lance Henrikson, i don't take him being 'Weyland anybody or the AVP movies as gospel. if i did, then i would wonder why weyland yutani doesn't just get the alien queen that sunk into the frozen ocean in AVP instead of hunting one down in space. in ALIEN, they all just call it 'the company'. and though i'm sure that would be quick slang for people under the employ to use, it would be silly for them to mention weyland yutani. that was a Cameron thing, and i think the history is that W-Y came into the forefront and even absorbed 'the company' Ripley originally worked for, while she was in hypersleep.
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in ALIEN there was no mention of weylan yutani. man, whole words disappeared when i posted.
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it's just that a lot of people on here, as I mentioned before, can't fucking read. I posted two direct, very clear quotes, one from Ridley Scott, in a previous post. It started off as an Alien prequel, and is now it's own original universe...IE, not related to Alien in any way. Clear enough...?
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The "go and write something and come back" argument is silly. So what, no one can criticize something unless they're just as good as that person? Sorry, doesn't make sense to me. And yes I do totally agree that Cameron's movies are better/ more well written than say, Star Trek, as you said. But that still doesn't make him a GREAT writer. His characters and plots are very surface-level. There's little depth, little characterization, and almost no subtlety. Yes, Cameron is good compared to people like Kurtzman/Orci, Beattie, and directors like Michael Bay and Roland Emmerich. But he's still nothing special in comparison to truly great storytellers. He's EXTREMELY acceptable, but he never "rises above" anything at all when it comes to the actual narrative. I mean look at Avatar. What character in that is not just a rehash of a million other characters we've seen before? The resistant hero. The gung-ho military guy. The noble native girl. The nerdy sidekick, etc. When did a character do something you didn't seem coming a million miles before hand? Again, I'm not saying he's straight up SHITTY by any means. But compared to sci-fi films like Children of Men, Blade Runner, Moon, and even (albeit to a somewhat lesser extent) District 9, his characters and plots tend to be very thin and run of the mill. Does he have great ideas and unique concepts to bring to the table? Certainly. But the actual PRESENTATION (not visually of course, I mean through storytelling/plot) tends to lean towards being very generic.
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I'll bet that's the name of the ship on which much of the action will occur. Definite shades of the Nostromo...
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Jan. 14, 2011, 8:18 p.m. CST
If it's not an Alien movie the studio's gonna be pissed
by rev_skarekroe
Wouldn't be surprised if they didn't want to drop $200 million on it anymore.
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I don't want to be tempted for over a year with the promise of a new Alien movie, only to have that dream ripped away and replaced with Generic Sci-Fi Garbage starring Angelina Fucking Jolie. For the love of God and all other deities, please... someone tell me why she keeps getting work.
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I love the first two Alien films. In fact, I sometimes claim that the first Alien is my favorite film of all time (depending on the day, of course). But after years of crappy sequels, I just couldn't muster much excitement for a prequel. I'm actually pleased with this announcement. For years I've felt like Ridley Scott was merely attempting to meet the demands of the box office. He was making films he thought would make the most amount of money. My hope is that his decision to ditch the Alien prequel, a reliable franchise, for something original indicates that he has some passion for this particular story.
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knew it was fire/sun related. Oh God, no one here can read and I'm a mythologically-illiterate imbecile. What a lovely discourse we've had!
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Jan. 14, 2011, 8:40 p.m. CST
You can't get a fan base all hyped for a new installment
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
in the series, say you're doing it, and then NOT do it. It's irresponsible and shows disdain for the fans. If Ridley wants to do an original sci-fi story, by all means, but at least produce a legitimate Alien prequel, for Serling's sake.
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Jan. 14, 2011, 8:54 p.m. CST
Honestly, I'd rather a movie set in this universe even if theres no xenomorph
by _Venkman
Could be epic
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The Forever War which was supposedly in development, and the Alien prequel. <p> Have to say, I hope that whatever else is going on, this new film remains Lovecraftian. With del Toro's Mountains of Madness probably coming out in 2012/2013, it'd be exciting to have two high-profile Lovecraft-inspired stories in theaters back-to-back...
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She has an accent. It'll just have to be remade so Americans can understand it. Like "Being Human".
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Facehuggers are the coolest thing about the whole Alien franchise! ;)
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Not shocking that's the case. You guys wouldn't know a good idea if it bit you in the ass. Here's my point: everyone seemed cautiously optimistic about an Alien prequel, but how many of you think it would actually be good if they tried to shoehorn/gracefully "dovetail" the Alien mythos into a new, standalone story? My bet is that it would end up sucking, as prequels - or any story that tries to stick itself into an existing mythos - tend to do. So, I think this is the best decision they ever could've made. A new space opera / epic scifi story that takes place in the same universe as Alien? (That's how I read the piece - "new Universe" simply means that the Xenomorphs and Space Jockeys are a smaller part of a larger story; maybe their race was kicked off their planet by a larger, nastier species? Who knows?) All I know is, NOW I'm excited.
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what Chronicles of Riddick was to Pitch Black (connected slightly within the universe but quite different) ........
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It's like waking up from a bad dream...
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What show am I watching here?
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weird, cause over on chud.com, they're still calling it an alien movie, just not a prequel. and the quote ridley gave can be read two different ways...nothing in the original article irrefutably says it has nothing to do with alien. this is what scott says: "a new, grand mythology and universe in which this original story takes place. The keen fan will recognize strands of ALIEN’s DNA, so to speak, but the ideas tackled in this film are unique, large and provocative." he says original story, meaning it could still be in the alien universe...he also says fans of alien will recognize some of alien's dna...again, that could mean anything...no one comes right out and says "this has nothing to do with alien" you're probably right, i would just like to hear it from the horses mouth irrefutably.
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It must have been really tempting just to slap the ALIEN brand name on this and it would have made serious money regardless if it was shit or not. Pretty bold of FOX and they deserve some kudos. But Lindelof is still a cunt. Can we get some LOST hate in here now? Thats always fun.
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Your average asshole will think its a Frankenstein reboot.
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Did you see _A Mighty Heart_?
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Not too happy about Charlize or Angelina. Unless they're killed on page 17.
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R.Scott can finally make a Creepy,Gory, Horror Alien film. I want to be terrified. Great News!
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There is no way a prequel would live up to the first two Alien films. With a sequel, or a sort of restart taking place after Alien 3 but with new characters, they might have had a chance to equal the brilliance of Alien and Aliens. I still hope that after Ridley makes this Prometheus thing, that he goes onto The Forever War film adaptation he has been waiting to do for like 25 years.
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I can never get enough of her. I actually like this idea better than continuing to rehash a franchise that ended after Aliens. IMO atleast.
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I was thinking about checking this out.
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he scrapped the prequel and is making a different movie. how hard is that to understand? also, i never realized that "Ripley" is one letter away from being "Ridley." do you think that Ridley Scott likes to wear women's underwear, like Ripley? god damn this site is boring.* *fuck you if you tell me to go elsewhere if i don't like it. so many of you say insanely stupid shit; it's my turn now.
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i see some saying this is going to make a great alien sequel, some saying it's great scott is doing something that has nothing to do with alien....no one seems to know exactly what that is. anyone?
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You come back to a property you helped breathe life into over 30 years ago, a film many hail as a staple of genre let alone of it's franchise, and you find a mythology severely limited in scope thanks to previous involvement. The Ripley story is over. Thanks to Alien Ressurection & the advance of time, if anyone wants to see another Ripley movie the only logical plot will resolve on Gramma Ripley helping the Earth Defence League (secretly being manipulated by shadowy inter-planetary companies) take back the planet from those dastardly xenomorphs. Now without Ripley, you have lost your emotional anchor for the audience. They have no reason to care for this interpretation of this universe because their investment has ended. To restart interest in a new character, where would you set the timeline? After Ressurection?? Do what's stated above but explain Ripley died over the years....all of a sudden i get a shudder of Terminator3/Salvation when Sarah Connor just dissapears as a character. After Alien3?? The only plot point left to this universe outside of Ripley is the continued involvement of Weyland-Yutani, I shall return to this. After Aliens?? Pull a 'Superman Returns?! To discredit the work of two other auters and outrightly write them out of the canon is downright disrespectful despite how you feel of their contribution to the property (although I'm sure Fincher would be happier to wake up one day to find Alien3 just up and dissapeared) but would leave one in a position that they felt their continuation was more important to the narrative (enhancing expectations of fans), would result in the necessity to recast the entire existing cast or work extensivelly in Digital as nothing, not even Father Time, can stop the true sequel (enhancing nervousness of fans) and would require a bigger gamble from the studio (enhancing more fingers in the pie). Now Ridley has always stated an Alien sequel was more relient on Weaver than anything else, including him as a director....I think she's had enough & I don't blame her. Ressurection was a stretch but anything else would make it seem....reasonable. So you're left with setting it before all this, undiscovered furtive literary grounds to build your foundation upon. Simple, no? Well....no. As many know, and have pointed out, thanks to a throwaway scene and a fanboy wetdream fully realised for a decade by a publishing company we were treated to the abortive films that were AVP & AVP:2. Due to a limited scope (in both budget & vision) this apocalyptic battle took place on Earth...in our time...not set in the sci-fi future of the colonial marines but in the Predator's continuity of visiting Earth for the best Prey. The unifying factor being, you guessed it, the involvement of Weyland-Yutani. The origins and intentions of your last plot point have been explained (quite rationally & logically) in a rather flawed film. Anything done here, would be a rehash/reboot of this idea. So with no more plot points, surely you could sculpt something with the Universal Markers you left with your co-story designer & creature consultant H.R. Giger right? Well....after 30 years of hard speculation, achieved because by God those markers did the job of sparking an audience's imagination, anything that takes away from the grand mythos implied by giving us realised truth will be seen as a letdown. I liken it to the birth of Vader. Many a Star Wars fan had their own vision of this event, how it transpired with only the barest of story markers set so that when it came to Episode 3 nothing could do justice to all those years of fanboy dreams. Any Space Jockey story told, even with the direct involvement of Giger & Scott, would pale to the one you established in your head after you watched Alien for the first time. I love this universe. I was an unabashed fan when Alien became the 1st film I had to turn the TV off and come back to it later at age 7 (18 years later only 3 other films have made me do that out of pure fright) and I managed to last until vents. I disagree with Scott, I don't think it's a "dead universe" I just feel it's a fully realised universe. It has been fuelled by countless imaginations & even nurtured with another property into an honest-to-god saga. You feel disconnected with Sci-Fi at the movies? Finding Avatar too family-friendly? If you've never read Dark Horse's Aliens, Predator & AVP books then just plunge into the omnibuses released. They do that rare thing of actually respecting the reader's wishes of wanting the stories he read before to link to the stories he's reading now & later. For new AVP fans who only know the films and felt them somewhat lacking, you'll find the goods here (with the occasional awesome batman/predator showdown as well just for kicks). I make the same reccomendation to jaded jedis. If Star Wars films have left you cold, pick up the Freedon Nadd uprising & Sith Lords Dark Horse GN's. Good luck to Ridley Scott. I don't think this was an intended swerve. I believe the man fell back in love with this universe after revisiting for the Quadrilogy set, has tried in many ways to find a way back in & has had to finally accept defeat. He'll never get to write his swan song for Ripley & I honestly believe he thinks he'll do harm than good with an "Alien prequel" but the sci-fi bug has bit him hard, Blade Runner hard and he still wants to say something in this genre. Let him! Don't lambast the man! At least give him the respect to finish his opus before you shit on it. Everyone knows Scott can wow, everyone also admits he can suprise you with a total 'meh', I want that sci-fi wow from Scott again with that wow going round the world like it did in 1979 & again in 1982 inspiring many to create their own worlds. Good luck to PROMETHEUS (RISING) & I hope the enthusiasm behind the project doesn't become unabated due to negativity. Apologies to all who struggle through this ramble and find it incoherent. It is well past the Midnight Hour here in sleepy England but I felt a compulsion to write something. Not necessarily something witty, relevant or even interesting but it is at least something and thank you if you took the time to go through it.
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It is a totally new story/universe. It seems that there might be a couple winks to Alien fans, but we don't know what those winks are or how big they'll be. It could be that PROMETHEUS will have some similar concepts, or maybe the sets and futuristic technology that the characters are surrounded by will be utilitarian in design like they were in the ALIEN films. Maybe there will be a remark made by a character about Weyland Yutani. It could be little things like that, but no one besides Ridley Scott and his collaborators know what these similar elements will be.
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He of the laughably awful looking Cowboys and Aliens and the biggest con job anticlimax of television history: Lost season 6? Just seeing his name associated with this is a film fan bonerkiller.
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He got Noomi, even though the fucking suits at Fox didn't want her. She's an incredible actress and I'm thrilled that she's the lead. Whether this is set in the "Alien Universe" or not, I'm not that concerned either way...I just want to see another amazing film from the master at his best. If he can capture lightning in the bottle again, the way he did on Blade Runner and Alien, color me fucking excited.
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probably means that since the project started out set in the Alien universe, they'll be some elements retained/left over in the final product, IE, space monsters, or functional, clunky technology as lv_426 has said.
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Goddamnit. she's fucking ugly and a horrible actress. Stop casting that hack of an actress.
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Jan. 14, 2011, 10:50 p.m. CST
Angelina Jolie got where she is due to four reasons:
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
1.Big Breasts <p>2. Nepotism <p>3.Having a squishy fish-face <p>4.Big Breasts <p>I have no problem with big breasts...but she can't act. Did anyone see her in her so-called "real film roles", like "Original Sin"? Awful. Nepotism gave us Sigourney Weaver and the currently very popular Jeff Bridges, among others. It also gave us George W Bush, the Gyllenhaals and Paris Hilton...so, overall, not usually a good thing. No comment on Angelina's squishy fish-face.
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anyone read that interview where she gleefully admits to committing animal cruelty and killing all her pets she had a child? Like, she had a lizard that she didn't feed and it died, she took her hamster in the shower with her and it caught pneumonia and died...not exactly a reassuring trend.
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honestly, what if this turns out to be a totally new franchise that people are still talking about almost 40 years later?? I was pumped for an Alien film but I'm even more pumped now that it seems Ridley is pumped
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But Alien Jolie???
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I read it as he started writing the prequel and the aliens as we know them didn't fit into it. I imagine it's still a prequel of sorts, in the same universe, that just doesn't feature the aliens. That's what I gathered from it.
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... who the fuck Prometheus is or how it ties into Frankenstein. So no problems there.
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The first two Alien films were fantastically brilliant two sides of a coin. I don't think you can find any better films of each type - they're masterpieces. But everything else related to Alien since then has been utter garbage. The sequels, the AvP nonsense (film and print), all garbage. And prequels in general only have about a 1% success rate. And I only say 1% because I really think 0% but acknowledge that I might be forgetting about a great prequel. So add those things together, along with Scott's less than stellar recent times (unless you think Gladiator is a good movie, which I don't), and the likelihood of satisfying success is nil. But even if he fails, I'd love to see him fail in the course of striking out on some grand, strange new space adventure. Dragging out something that's already been done as well as it possibly can be (ahem, Predators) leads to nothing. Go for something bold and original, Mr. Scott - after all, that's what made you your fame to begin with. If the world can't handle something as different and bold now as Alien and Blade Runner were at their time, then it's not worth pandering to with something obvious.
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Earlier in his career he was more a visual stylist than someone strong on story and character. But he has matured. Strangely enough I think it began with GI Jane. I thought the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven was absolutely brilliant. A sensitive and brave telling of a story and time period that still affects the world. He's totally going to knock this out of the park. I'm expecting whatever this is to be fantastic and really don't want to know any more until I'm in the cinema.
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That's what it sounds like.
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Marry me!!!
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Lost was utter garbage. The most disappointing finale in the history of tv. I'm sure this movie is going to be worse than Hitler.
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LV4267 an absolute failure.
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a alien who has a liver that regenerates... boom, youre welcome
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From the director of Shit, Shit II and Shit III: Shit Harder, Brett Ratner.
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Ridley : One of the greats.
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and at some point they'll land on the alien planet. The end.
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There was so much impact with that creature like, "How/why did it fuse into that telescope/gun?". I'd like sustained mystery for that thing - it worked perfectly. There's been so many Alien toys, figures, statues, busts, gashopons, revoltechs, plushes (perhaps no inflateables), Giger must be effin' pissed at the haul FOX has had on merchandising his designs. Accordingly, think the ALIEN and its life cycle is done to death, so starting up a new mythos is probably a positive shift for Ridley Scott. It would be nice if it was HARD SCI-FI, like freak-you-out with a future HUMAN lifestyle that's five evolutions past BLADE RUNNER, and blows your mind with new concepts, not just CGI. Future humanity as alien, introduced to another alien(s), for a relentless two-movie Darwinian war of survival. Cameron's ALIENS touched on that, and its the kind of genre-buster which takes skill. Bon chance!
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Jan. 15, 2011, 2:52 a.m. CST
Here's an idea... how about an Alien movie with a MALE lead?
by Wookie_Weed
Ripley is so damn iconic in the Alien franchise, another female lead just doesn't do it for me;the quality of the actress or script won't make a difference in this regard. Maybe the lead character can be a woman, but men can audition for the part? ;-)
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or implanted memories during Ripley's cryo sleep after Aliens.
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"Fans of those movies (Alien 3 and 4) don't know what the hell a good movie is." Jesus, Ryan... where to begin... lol First of all... the fact that you put Alien 3 and Alien: Ressurection on the same "level" proves you know absolutely ZILCH about film-making, or for that matter, ART in general. So let me set you straight here... A fan of Alien 3 would clearly be someone who appreciates the following: Quality acting, solid direction, fantastic cinematography/shot blocking and framing etc., an absolutely AMAZING score, a ballsy and UNPREDICTABLE plot/script, immersive set design, and a huge emphasis on ATMOSPHERE/TONE/AMBIANCE, and a beautiful color palette. A fan of this film would also appreciate the emphasis on CHARACTER, instead of ACTION, and the dramatic and heavy psychological themes present in the script. Does that help at all, Ryan? Me thinks Alien 3 is just a TAD too mature for someone like you. Maybe in a few years you'll be able to look upon that fine flick with a fresh and OBJECTIVE outlook, and you'll learn to appreciate it's greatness... Let me know when you do, k bro?
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Damon Lindelof can go SUCK A BAG OF DICKS. My poor, poor Lost... :*****(
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However, you were technically "half right" with your earlier statement. So i'll correct it for you... "Fans of ALIEN: RESURRECTION don't know what the hell a good movie is" There, that's better :-) AR is a steaming pile of cinematic after-birth, that lacks ANY artistic merit whatsoever... and simply cannot be defended in any rational or OBJECTIVE manner. It's simply impossible. But i dare anyone to try...
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"So let me set you straight here... A fan of Alien 3 would clearly be someone who appreciates the following: Quality acting, solid direction, fantastic cinematography/shot blocking and framing etc., an absolutely AMAZING score, a ballsy and UNPREDICTABLE plot/script, immersive set design, and a huge emphasis on ATMOSPHERE/TONE/AMBIANCE, and a beautiful color palette. A fan of this film would also appreciate the emphasis on CHARACTER, instead of ACTION, and the dramatic and heavy psychological themes present in the script." Nice summing-up. You're right, of course, and those who continually bash Alien 3 for not being Aliens really tend to have no understanding of these things. "AR is a steaming pile of cinematic after-birth, that lacks ANY artistic merit whatsoever... and simply cannot be defended in any rational or OBJECTIVE manner." Right again. This is what happens when you try and remake Aliens. Abject failure.
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I think we're gonna get along quite well here... ;-) I love defending Alien 3. It's my favorite movie to use as a "litmus test" for true cinephiles. Those who are objective... who understand and appreciate true ART love Alien 3. Whereas those who talk shit about it, tend to base their opinions on the film with loads of personal bias and irrational thoughts. I.E. whining incessantly about how shitty it was that they killed off newt and hicks, and how dark and depressing it is, and how "gay" it is that there's only 1 alien, no marines, and NO GUNS. Fucking morons... the LOT OF THEM!
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So is it just a name, or could it have a bearing on the script.
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Is a dark, brutal, PERSONAL film that encourages INTROSPECTION... something people like Braindrain lack the ability to do. And the greatest irony is that i loved this damn movie to death when i first saw it... Which means i was 10 fuckin' years old! Couldn't stop thinking about it, and i didn't even really know why at the time. I just loved the mood that it put me in, i was completely drawn into the world and setting, and i couldn't get over how bad-ass the bald/brittish inmates were. I liked those motherfuckers better than the damn marines from the second film! (and i love Aliens as well) Also, i was already really sensitive to film music even at the young an age... and that score just MESMERIZED ME. Anyway, most of the other brats my age didn't like it 'cause of the aforementioned "issues"... i guess my tastes in film were already more developed than most of my peers at the time, and apparently many adults as well... lol Definitely one of my all time favorite films :-)
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Was geared up for more alien movies from Ridley with serious production work and the return of Geiger along with hopefully a cast of unknowns or at least believable actors. A new sci-fi movie by Ridley Scott in a new universe would have been a sufficient alternative at one stage, but coming off the likes of Robin Hood it leaves me worrying just what he's up to. Then bandying about names of Hollywood hacks like Angelina Jolie along with nobodies like Lindelof just turns my stomach. How Jolie can be cast in anything now is beyond me, she had one trick, her looks, and even then she was always very fake looking and now even that has faded. Why her name is even considered is beyond me other than it's the studio trying to get a "name" in, to draw in some audience that i don't think exists anymore for said "actress". How believable would she be in space anyway? She looks way too glamourous and plastic....she's practically a space hopper. Time will tell, but nothing about this round of rumours has left me with a positive reaction.
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...firstly, while I'm delighted with the casting of Rapace, I far rather that complete unknown, new faces be be used over the likes of Theron and...ug!...Jolie. WTF?! I'm okay with whatever Ridley comes up with as being called 'Prometheus' instead of say, 'Alien:Prometheus', if he doesn't want to use the 'franchise' name in the title...and I'm certainly okay with the possibility that this project has ended up telling a grander 'backstory' on an epic scale, compared to his extremely tight, and narrowly-set original...as whatever he puts onscreen is bound to look sumptuous. It was obvious from the start that he didn't want to merely re-tread his classic, at the end of the day. All I'm concerned about is, that it combines some kick-ass action, along with some hopefully creepy-ass atmosperics. The odd scare would be nice too, of course, no matter what his scenario is. My biggest fear is not whether there will be much actual 'xenomorph'-type action in this 'backstory'...but that the 'Spacejockey' ends up being merely an oversized spacesuit for a 'human-looking' race...rather than a totally 'alien-looking' race! I pray this is not going to be the case, but who knows for sure at this point? Still, this is at the top of my 'must-see' list, as far as curiosity goes... Lastly, I agree that 'Alien 3' (especially the extended cut) ended up having a lot of worthy things going for it, even though I'd rather things had stopped at 'Aliens'...but I'd sure love to have that and 'Alien:Resurrection' fanedited by someone with 'book-ended' shots of Ripley and Newt safely 'asleep' at the start and finish of them both...so that it seems they are merely 'nightmares' during their long sleep back home on the Sulaco!
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If it hadn't hadn't already been announced that Sir Ridley was doing an Alien prequel (or two), I would have been thrilled that he's returning to sci-fi. As it is, I'm just very disappointed we won't be seeing his return to the Alien universe. I agree that there are two many sequels, prequels and reboots, but this was one prequel I was looking forward to.
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I remember how SOLDIER was being described as set in the same universe as BLADE RUNNER by its screenwriter and director. Is this what we can expect from PROMETHEUS?
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Greed, politics, corporations acting out of favor will be the main focus in this new story. I heard that this huge corporation will have already discovered LV-426 and the derelict space craft. Weyland Yutaini Corp are simply playing catch up. Apparently The team are all ready on LV-426 when the Nostromo arrives, they actually watch the landing craft from afar. It's all politics. The bigger corporation want Weyland Yutani to go in and make all the mistakes first. The whole space Jocky thing only really serves as a background element to the story. Quick flashbacks etc will show small glimpses of how the ship crashed etc. The Nostromo eventually leaves to begin the whole saga with Ripley...Thats all I am saying for now.
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Another great post from you man. I always enjoy reading your stuff... Whether it's your bizarre, yet hilarious, schizophrenic ramblings... or your more calm, intellectual ruminations like this one... either way they're fantastic :-) And personally, that's the best defense... the most acceptable argument in favor for Alien: Reserruction that i've come across to date. And i completely respect your opinion as always... however, we will have to agree to disagree on this matter ;-) It's interesting because the major issues i have with the film are exactly what you enjoy, yourself. Whereas i take them as negatives, you most definitely look upon them as positives... The whole self-aware, tongue-and-cheek, bizarro/surrealist style and tone is my biggest beef with it. It's almost offensive to me, as if the creators were not respecting the source material... instead, treating it as a parody. And that bugs me the most. Also, many of the conceptual things like the ripley clone, hybrids, and so on and so forth... are things i couldn't stand on a fundamental level. However, you obviously seemed to enjoy them. And as you already pointed out, the whole premise to the film basically shats in the face of Alien 3, which i personally felt couldn't have ended the series any more poignantly. I just feel that there was a greater respect for the previous entries in the series, the tone of the franchise, and the character of Ripley in the 3rd film, that was completely absent in the 4th. And finally, as you already pointed out in your last post, in terms of the technical aspects of film-making, it's quite apparent that they were a bit more polished in the 3rd film in comparison to the 4th... And i know i'm a rare breed, in that i admire these qualities in film more than most people do. Where i try to keep my emotions or personal bias out of my film-going experience as much as i possibly can... as to allow me to connect to the film, or appreciate it on a more fundamental level. Anyway, you've obviously put a lot of thought into this. You articulated and deconstructed your thoughts and feelings on the film extremely well, which is why i completely respect your opinion. On the other hand, if you were, say... "Braindrain", and you offered a shallow, simplistic, knee-jerk reaction that exhibited absolutely no cognitive abilities whatsoever... then of course i wouldn't be able to accept or respect your opinion in any way. So as i said earlier, it's great to hear from you again Tele. I always enjoy reading stuff from individuals that put some actual thought into their posts... that share the same passion and respect for film-making that i do. Good stuff bro!
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Jan. 15, 2011, 8:26 a.m. CST
One last thing i forgot to mention in regards to Alien: Resurrection...
by fettitular
I hear from some people that they like the "look" of the film... or the visual style, etc. Which is actually one of the biggest problems i have with the flick. It's got that ugly, fish-bowl-lens thing going on that's all too common in french films... that shit pisses me off like shaky-cam does to a lot of people. I'm more partial to the styles of Ridley Scott, James Cameron, and David Fincher in terms of cinematography... and i think it may be due to what you already pointed out about the surrealist/dream-like quality of the story. It definitely enhances or reinforces that surrealist style in a visual way. Also, the score was entirely forgettable in Resurrecion. I don't remember a single note from it, and i couldn't even tell you who the composer was... and the score is one of the very best things about each of the first 3 films. Jerry Goldsmith provided a wonderful, subtle, creepy, ambient sound to the first film... James Horner gave us an awesome, EPIC, horn-heavy score that had the perfect balance of militaristic action pieces as well as soft, mournful, moody cues like Newt's theme, etc... And finally Goldenthal's Alien 3 score may very well be the best of the series. From the creepy/ambient opening track to the quiet/introspective/choral "Lento", all the way to the horn-centric action/chase cues and finally culminating in the tragic yet beautiful opus "Adagio"... it's probably my favorite non-john williams score of all time. Anyway, i could ramble on for hours about this film, and the series as a whole, so i'll stop here ;-)
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Jan. 15, 2011, 8:36 a.m. CST
Does this mean it will have a tangential connection to the Alien mythos?
by REDD
But not directly related to the Alien stories we've seen thus far? Similar to how the movie "Soldier" is sort of set in the "Blade Runner" universe?
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I wouldn't have minded an Alien sequel, but a prequel would have just opened up a can of worms ala Star Wars. We'd have all been left disappointed in some way. Nice to see the non-hatred/love for Alien 3 in here. You can't defend some of the writing (the impossible egg on the Sulaco), but the acting, design, score, cinematography - all outstanding. There is much to be appreciated as a fan of film. Oh, and whoever mentioned the Alien Harvest script, it seemed like a fake to me. We'll find out for sure come 2012, but it read nothing like Spaihts' other work - it was shit. Truly rancid, dire writing. I still laugh thinking about the rape scene, not a joke subject obviously, but the way it's written... see for yourselves: Fins* hands are tangled in Karik's hair. KARIK God! Damn it! FADE TO BLACK *Note: where's the apostrophe? Pretty unprofessional, even if you are sending it to Fox.
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the moment they created an alias on the internet, found a place to mouth off and believed the bullshit notion that whatever they said was right and whatever you said was wrong when it came to something as subjective as movies. ...myself included. How the fuck do I buy it back?
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does he like swallowing the cum too? or maybe he and Telemarketer is the same, because TBers should know Fettitular loves posting under numerous names ie Lowesforeheadtranny and quite possibly scottpilgrimfan but then again, after readin some of Telemarketers posts, he doesnt seem to be pretentious jackass who judges peoples character based off what they enjoy from fictional stories...
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Was that the Alien was clearly more intelligent than the humans; Ash said so himself. It was a SUPERIOR life form, not just an animal--which wouldn't scare any high-tech society all that much. And it didn't need a Queen. The deleted scene of Harry Dean Stanton being converted into an Alien egg is the thing that terrified Ripley the most. That's the meaning of her famous line: "If just *one* of these things gets down here, you can kiss all this bullshit you love so much goodbye." That's why Ridley wants to distance himself from all the sequels. In the age of the Internet, every geek on the planet will know that 'Prometheus' is the Alien movie they want next.
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Jan. 15, 2011, 10:58 a.m. CST
This went from a movie I'd definitely see in the theater...
by Bramton1
to a movie I might watch at home some point.
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Personally I actually think that the 'eggmen' subplot weakens the Alien because it also meant that the Alien only has a 24 hour or so life cycle; it was dying so had to create a new Alien. That makes it far less terrifying to me, because all you have to do it trap it, or hide for a day and the threat is over. By the time the Nostromo arrived back on Earth, the creatures would all be years dead. Plus it looked silly. Oh, and I don't think Ripley's line is about the 'eggmen' stuff because Cameron eliminated that cycle by introducing the Queen. I don't know if he was even aware of that scene since it was deleted from the original film. I
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One thing I love about H.R.Giger is his respect for the goopy, drippy, creepy parts of biology. The 'eggmen' or 'Queen' isn't an either or proposition. The eggman would be created as drones -- infertile females--until one of them would be treated with a hormone bath (in bees it is royal jelly, which tastes and smells just like toejam!) and then you've got your Queen. I raise bees in the summer; this is all standard insect biology.
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Agreement.
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she adds nothing to anything...im sick of her stupid face and over-rated acting.
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we see that the crew of the derilect craft got turned into the eggs. Nothing lays the eggs but they are transformed victims. The aliens are able to inject their DNA somehow with a secreted resin no doubt. But since he prefers the original cut which doesn't insinuate this- will he go for the alien queen thing and keep in line with aliens? Can't wait
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The Alien franchise can rest in peace and we can get a new story and characters to see. Aliens was very good at expanding the universe of Alien. It seemed an organic growth of the first. It had the same grime and realism and explained its premise in a concise and natural way. The pothers started to involve more and more twists to start them off. Alien and Aliens are 30/25 years old. They are of that time and they are struggling to be relevent in todays world. I think that Promethius will be able to be more contempory. Is Geiger on board? Promethius seems to hint at Shape shifting or multiple forms. Geiger would be bale to really get his teath into it and create a whole new genre defining monster. Something that is different from the Alien but just as monsterous. I hope he can vreate a multitude os similar monsters all interconnected design wise that will be more complete than any monster we have seen before. As he is so hands on I think he would like to create some thing practically and this would be very pleasing for me
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what happened to this project? I thought Ridley was also involved with this, till the suits got involved and pushed for the Alien prequels. I'd love to see an adaptation of this movie.
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People are asking about HR Giger, but I'd also like to see more Moebius involvement here. His influence on Ridley Scott and both Alien and Blade Runner are clear to see. His designs are beautiful.
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Jan. 15, 2011, 1:01 p.m. CST
fettitular - I think you over egg the Alien 3 pudding.
by ihatetalkbacks
We all know that Alien had its problems from the outset. But it was never going to be as good as the first two. One of the main reasons are the sets. They are expressionistic. The gothic elements are too imposing and are change from the relistic look of the first two. We had the biological gothic look of sthe derelict and this was too similar. The sets were also disjointed. teh film never managed to give a thought out location like the other films. One of the great things about Cameron is that he shows the lay out of a place. The whole colony in Alien makes sense geographically. In Alien they wander about from set to set with no geographic pins. Another thing (certainly in 4) is that they wander about with no sense of worry were the alien is. Secondly the acting and casting. i liked the cast - the range of natural british accents is great but they are paper thin. Pretty much all of them are interchangable. I did not feal for any of them except Charles Dance. All the characters seem to be either well intentioned or BAD!!! The script is not too unpredictable either, more of a carbon copy of Alien, rather than expanded like Aliens. There are also gaping holes. The whole story cannot happen as - were did the egg come from? Why can it lay 2 chest bursters after that? Why is Bishop 2 so under used?
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An "ALIEN" prequel sounded like a really bad idea, and it sounds like the important people finally came to the same conclusion. Demystifying this franchise any further just makes it less interesting. Also, awardgiver is right. Where the fuck is "The Forever War"?
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Spellun is never my strong point. Look at my posts to see that they are littered with bad spelin.
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A daring new take on the 'universe', combining the face hugger and chest burster to make...<p>THE CHEST HUGGER!<p>starring Alienina Jolie and a cast of big boobed women.<p>in space no one can hear you spunk.
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That would have been awful.
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What I don't understand is if you want to go back to Alien but not as a prequel or a reboot, why not a movie about the Company succeeding on the first go around? I mean you just wouldn't give up after the Nostromo failed to show up.
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Ridley hasn't directed a great movie since 1982, but this sounds a lot more interesting than a straight "Alien prequel".
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Good analysis of Alien3. Agree with pretty much all of that.
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Maybe this is a post Avatar film for Fox and they have learned that the creative talent need to be left to do what they want. They have moved from a reboot/prequel to a new property. Seems like a first that I have heard. Has there been a management change at Fox? The old studio would usually be keen to milk the known franchise to death... Hope that a new prequel does not rise from the grave with poorer people behind it... it could be the death knell of Alien and a straight to DVD affair. While I was looking forward to the Ridley version I do not want a substandard one from some poor sap and derivitive story.
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Thanks. Alien3 is a mess. The story has far too many problems. The single worst thing about it is that the old Ripley has gone. She is a different character. She is brutalised with Hicks and Newts death, almost raped and covered in lice. Then she has to commit suicide. She has changed from a survor to a cypher of pain and missery. She may of well let the Alien live to reward humanity and fate for such a sh1tty hand it gave her. Newt and Hicks may well have not survived Aliens for what happens to them. They are tossed away. I hate that Ripley does not seem too bothered later in the film. She is less of a person and simply at metaphor of bloody mindedness. She also seems unnecessarily promiscuous. She sleeps with Dances character for no good reason, for a series of film that have so much written about the gender politics in them, the poor sexualising of her seems crass. Cameron can never direct any kind of romance but has it in all his films, Aliens was about the best with a subtle hint of attraction. In Alien3 Ripley seems like a hormonal teenager wanting to let off a little steam after a few exams. Not some one traumatised by the death of a surrogate daughter and possible lover. Secondly the setting is poor for this story. The set isover powering that it drowns out everything else. Partly it is the repressentation of an old decaying and disused prisson and plannet. Are we meant to believe that men are colonising space anew but not keeping facilities they already have. Whay was Furina now unused, it cannot have been in use for long. This setting is forced, crowbarred into the film from the older scripts after revision after revision. It is not the realism of space truckers on the Nostromo, or the fantastical but well realised terraformers. It is over conceptualised and straight jackets the story. There seems to be a "I am smart as I liked Alien3" arguement around the film these days. that it may not be perfect but liking it means you are a decerning and smart person. A badge to wear to justify yourself. I just think it stinks!
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Jan. 15, 2011, 3:28 p.m. CST
Space Jockey on a Space Horse: A Ridley Scott Motion Picture Event
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
SPACE HORSE!
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The Sulaco could have fit right there in orbit. Cameron went native and showed most of the grunts as brainwashed this time around instead of individuals as in Aliens. That said. Maybe Ridley's idea could be interesting. The Nostromo had all that company mining ship , hyperspace/2001 sleep thing going, looking cool as it entered the planet. One big massive landing craft. Wouldn't mind seeing a story in that world with that stuff. Would beat out Fifth Element for sure. A Blade Runner sequel I wouldn't mind either.
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So...Is that a no? Ha ha ha (or as Harry would say... "giggle")
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By insisting that Hicks, Newt, and ultimately Ripley die. Never let your star dictate the plot.
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I had an awful feeling about the prequel idea, so I'm glad they dropped that. I'm hoping they go with Theron over Jolie, not that the latter is a bad actress (she was excellent in Changeling), but I think she's got too much star quality to her these days.
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thats the link to "alien" - im guessing - it takes place long before "alien" and has something to do with the spacejockey race - long before that one ship of theirs landed on the "alien" planet and sent a distress signal - this is a set up i can deal with
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The idea of a prequel to ALIEN is fucking stupid. I'm glad they've gone in another direction with this.
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this has absolutely nothing to do with Alien and the space jockeys now? That this is totally original and takes place in a totally different region of space with new species we haven't seen yet? Or if the space jockeys are in it, then either it's the modern more evolved and advanced space jockeys or it shows flashbacks of them from long ago, or there is a time travel element to it. Humans in space or better yet modern man didn't exist at the time of the crashed spaceship on LV426. The time lines don't match up. That's the biggest problem I've had all along with this whole project. If they do something completely new then it doesn't matter.
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Because Ripley is still in hypersleep on the Sulaco as far as I'm concerned. Alien 3 and 4 never happened.
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I reall wanted him to make another Alien movie and bring respect back to the name that it lost after Aliens.
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...but honestly, I think youre one of his other aliases... actually Im beginning to think BrainDrain is Fett also... but just the uber-idiotic persona of Fett and if BrainDrain isnt Fett, I dont know who to root for between their battles because I truly hate both of em... one is dumb and pointless and the other thinks he is smart and matters... its a tough call
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Ridley already brought respect to the ALIEN universe. Christ, he fucking created it. It's Fox that ran it into the ground. I'm just grateful just to see him return to the genre, and am very much looking forward to this new vision whatever universe it's set in.
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What a bad idea that was.
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I want to know what the fucking space jockey is all about and how and why the eggs came to be aboard that funky space ship. That's all I wanted from this film.
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Think of how much more interesting Alien 3 would have been had Hicks and Newt been part of the dynamic on the prison planet. Would the "celibate" prisoners tried to have protected or molested Newt and how would they react to a Colonial Marine? Wasted opportunity.<P> I actually liked Alien 3 for what it was and it definitely felt like part of the same universe (unlike 4), but it definitely could have been better.<P> Better yet, what if a second team of Marines shows up earlier in the film with another Bishop android to recover the Xenomorph and part of the plot was Ripley and Hicks helping the unarmed inmates defend against both armed marines and the alien. Damn, that could have been good.
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irish tv presenter, broadcaster, tv producer and film critic. dave fanning does not agree with any of the above, I recall he and Mark Kermode had a verbal spat over Alien. fannings point is that movies are movies and that it is idiotic to read into them. All that alien is according to Fanning is monster movie in outer space. Fanning told kermode shutI up on air. Kermode wasnt in the studio but fanning was reacting to what Kermode had said about alien on air.
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Scott lost his older brother to cancer. one way to do a new spin on alien would be to look at the corporations origins. Maybe they started as a bening entity and got corrupted. corporates always throw money at things and when something goes wrong they tend to cover things up. the corporation's dirty secret was that it knew all about the xenomorphs and the dirlict space ship. it sent a crew into outerspace with a robot who all about the corporation little secret. and to make sure that if they ever found. The crew were expendable. the aliens were programmed to know this.
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Wtf don't whet our appetites like that and then take it away!! At least produce it then and let someone else direct!!
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Jan. 16, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST
yay, now brett ratner can shoot the next one instead.
by RedHorseVector
any chance the alien franchise had for redemption is gone gone gone.
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I consider everything else stories that happened in comics or games that have no bearing on the actual timeline.
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YOU want an ALIEN prequel, WE welcome and want a return to the genre by a former master...whatever universe he decides to place the mythology of said universe in. There are certainly more than enough horrible films set in the ALIEN-verse out there to ensure you remain satisfied...FOX has seen to that. After Ridley's original film and Cameron's brilliant follow-up, it has been nothing but downhill since. Although I do tend to believe that if Fincher would have had his shot a few years later with more experience and credentials under his belt, and if the suits at FOX could keep their goddamn hands off the film, his take on the mythos could have been much improved, and perhaps worthy of the first two films. Nevertheless, a new sci-fi entry directed by Ridley Scott with Noomi Rapace in the lead sets my heart racing at the mere thought of it. Welcome back, Sir Ridley!
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I want Alien damn it...or at the very least a new Alien Vs Predator film that's actually good.
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Instead of an original work of science fiction from the man who directed Blade Runner, we need more prequels, sequels, "reboots" and fucking versus movies. Film as a cherished form of ORIGINAL art be damned. Here, here.
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If this project involves 'Aliens' but is being considered something else because it goes beyond what we'd expect from an Aliens movie, then I'm pumped. Like, if it's Aliens Plus or something. If there are no longer any Aliens in it, then I am massively bummed out. I love that creature design so much that I even hold a special place in my heart for the shitty AvP movies. The worst potential thing about this no longer having much of anything to do with Aliens (if such is the case), is that this probably means that instead of getting another Alien movie by Ridley Scott, we're just going to get another shitty one from some hack in a few more years.
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I'm not speaking about this project in particular here... but there are just as many shitty original movies as there are shitty sequels. Probably more. I'd like to think that the man who directed Blade Runner would be capable of giving us an excellent movie whether it was original or not... ...Unfortunately that man has been replaced by the guy who directed Hannibal and Robin Hood.
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Perhaps we can dig up Orson Welles' bloated corpse and coax a prequel out of him too?
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Don't get me wrong though, Prometheus definitely sounds awesome and interesting, but I just need a minute to mourn my dead dog before I go falling in love with a new puppy.
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to working only with what's come before, perhaps we should consider the consequences?
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there was a time in early 1990s when ET was considered Speilbergs masterpiece. Cynics say that is not the case and that there is no such thing as a spielberg masterpiece. My point is that ET was one of the biggest film in Speilbergs career, that everyone wanted a sequel. So speilberg made Jurassic park two and said it was closest thing he will ever come to making a sequel to ET and before that he was adamant it would never happen. the berg at that was unhappy as being pegged as a family filmmaker. his early work, duel, jaws and sugerland express were very dark films. Ridley scott now finds himself in the position that the berg did with ET. people admire alien and scott is one of the great visual directors of the modern age. but it all depends on the script by damon lindelof. as the berg knows this, he screwed up jurassic park 2. with that ending. et 2 indeed!
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Those screenwriters who wrote up with Frankenstein, Casablanca, King Kong, The Ten Commandments, The Wizard of Oz, The Godfather, Jaws, Lawrence of Arabia and Psycho sure were clever folks to come up with such original ideas. Er, right??
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I thought both of the AVP movies were prequels. and angelina jolie is sooo awful. never cast her in anything
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a remake of a 1950s b movie called it! terror from beyond space.
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Jan. 16, 2011, 3:44 p.m. CST
emeraldboy: You know what people sound like when they talk film geek-speak?
by Playkins
They sound like they don't know what they're talking about. I'd say that not only did your weird diatribe make only the smallest bit of coherent sense, it was also about 99% B.S.
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Reckon Ridley can't make what he wants on the budget FOX offered, so the compromise is a completely new project with some reference to Weyland Yutani. If it's a hit, then they might approach the Alien thing. Shame...but I really think it's as simple as that.
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i still want my dark twisted tragic 2001/Cremater cyce stunning visual epic poem with stunning amazinging blow-away tragi-dark beautiful ending with Jockey rooted in his place, little dialogue etc...completely behind these guys just...don't screw it up!
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How cool would that be, to sit in the movie theater and not know ANYTHING MORE about this movie, without being exposed to any pictures or opinion or ANYTHING ABOUT IT and just experience it??? --LOL --Being HERE in this talkback is PROOF that...THAT...would be nearly impossible. Still, it's kinda sad.
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I'm pleased it's not going to be what we had been hearing about, actually. I was not really on board with it based on the rumors. This sounds potentially cool, though it also sounds like it may not even be an Alien series film? If it's radically different, it might as well not be anyhow. Getting something NEW that's as original as Alien was when it came out would be nice...
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To anyone lamenting we may never find out who or what that was all about, I offer this consolation: Who cares? I mean really, do you think it would completely satisfy you, after how many years of having it this grand mystery in our minds? Or would we be bitching about it for the rest of our geeky lives? Would the revelations in a movie made today even mesh with what was being considered back when Alien was made, with many different folks involved in production? Let it remain a mystery as big as all of the universe, as it ought to be. Let the Alien creature itself keep that small bit of mystery regarding it's origins, so it's unknown terror and very alien-ness is not completely removed by Hollywood.
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I grow more and more intrigued by every new piece of info I hear about this movie. I really have a feeling Ridley's gonna knock this one out of the park!
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Likewise, anyone worried that now we won't see him return to the Alien universe... I don't think that was ever going to happen in the sense many were hoping for. This was always going to be a really different take on some of the themes from the original film, never the kind of fanboy fill-in-the-blanks story like might appear in a Dark Horse comic book. I expect a lot of "Alien universe" fans would have hated the Prequel for how much it deviated from what is "known" through all the various media over the decades. It seems Ridley would have made something based off his own film, ignoring ALL the rest.
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But man, I do more than accept original sci-fi from him.
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it doesnt matter if the space jockey appears or not in this respect, its still going to explain or develop through a basic origion of sorts or to some degree the roots of xenomorphs, so that wonderful piece of imagination & mystery you hold is going to be shattered and reformed to some degree anyway
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...was supposed to be set in the same universe as "Blade Runner". This still sounds like a monster turd.
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I think the two actresses would make a great onscreen team up. Also, it's nice to know that the movie will not be a direct prequel, but a side story set in the same universe of ALIEN. Seems prequels is such a tainted word nowdays that even filmmakers became aware of it.
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Too bad they didn't go all the way and make the new generation of soldiers Replicants. Then, one of them with could have had white hair and the call sign "Batty". Then, perhaps there would be a reason to watch that POS.
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...although the danger was if anyone suggested to Anderson having a clone army of Rutger Hauer's he would probably have wanted to call them "Batty's Boys" or something gay like that.
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Part of the charm of the ALIEN movie is it's alieness, pardon the pun. The title itself should be a clue. Things are suposed to be alien, strange. No explanations are necessary. I don't want to know who the space jokey is. I don't want to know where the eggs came from. I don't want to know if the aliens themselves are natural creatures or bio-engineered. I don't want to know anything about that. I love the mystery. I love that the mystery has been unresolved so far. It's what gives the movie it's charm. To explain anything about the aliens it would alienate the very thing that makes the movie and the franchise that spawned from it so great.
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But if you do end up 'explaining' things along the way of the creative process-vision, show & tell it properly, stunningly, expand or rework or aid the dark mystery & imagination of whats going on, add to the terrible chutulu-old ones mysery equation don't subtract (if you don't mind or putting aside at least Jockey giving up the goods in some respects - just cant escape feeling theres an amazing dark visual story epic there if done correctly - more terrible questions or blanks about the horrific nature of it all could continue to fill your brain) are my basic summised feelings about this all...also if any reveals piss you off that much i'm sure the movie wil only be logged as non-cannon and forgoten by the next time you watch the origional like AvP wth Aliens: pos or not, Ridley or none.
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PLEASE, someone force that bitch to retire. I'm so sick of seeing that emaciated, sunken eye'd face and hearing another one of her fucking fake british accents and "knowing" stares to the camera. Yeah, you do the "femme fatale", we get it. You're also 90 pounds, so all the little girl kung-fu you do is horse shit (SALT). Keep her away from this film. And whatever this film ends up being, I'll see it and figure things out at that point. As long as Paul W(aste of) S(pace) Anderson is kept the FUCK away from anything to do with Aliens from here on out, I'll be fine with that. Oh and Alien 3 is light years better than that traitorous piece of shit Alien Resurrection.
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You had me at (paraphrasing) "this is no longer an Alien prequel anymore, but something dealing with similar themes in a new way." Be good, please? Remember: you're the guy who gave us Blade Runner and the original Alien (which I recently admitted to myself is better than Aliens. *Gasp!*). Surely, you can recapture this fire and re-ignite it for us? Gambatte, yo!
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Wait, Sigourney dictated that Hicks and Newt be killed off in Alien 3??? What a fucking dolt. Seriously, that's one of the biggest piss offs I can think of in film was the killing off of Newt and Hicks. What a fucking bitch.
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Jan. 17, 2011, 9:18 a.m. CST
So, it's in the Alien fictional universe, but not an Alien movie? Cool.
by Royston Lodge
I like that idea. Sort of like how H.P. Lovecraft encouraged people to write stories in the fictional universe he created. I'd love to see movies set in the Star Wars universe that aren't necessarily Star Wars movies, or movies set in the Star Trek universe that aren't necessarily Star Trek universe. Devil's Advocate Mode = On On the other hand, that kind of thinking is what gave us The Ewok Adventure and The Battle for Endor. Devil's Advocate Mode = Off Still, I just started reading one of the Star Wars novels that takes place during "The Dark Times", and it's perfect fodder for a movie.
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I have the rest I just don't want to spoil it. It is a grand vision and very eerie. Reminds me a lot of Renee Laloux's Fantastic Planet in tone. There are Xenomorphs and Space Jockeys in it. As long as those creature designs don't change too much I'm fine with them calling it whatever the fuck they want. H.R. Giger is doing the creature designs so they will at least look like they are from the samer universe.
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She is also the reason there are no guns in Alien3.
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I knew of her anti-gun stance for Alien 3 and that had she read the big climax to Aliens, that she wouldn't have done it. I can't believe she's responsible for killing off Newt and Hicks, that's just plain fucking stupid.
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At least Sir Ridley won't be directly contributing to Fox further detroying a(nother) once-promising franchise with some shoe-horned prequel. Personally, I don't want all of the mysteries from Alien solved and explained. The real beauty and genius of Alien and the reason it's still so goddamned scary was what was left to the imagination and the dark places O'Bannon, Schusset, Scott and Giger dared your mind to go. Really, we got 2 fantastic films from the Alien franchise, both of which hinted at a larger mythology at work. Perhaps this is still the universe Ridley has decided to play in, only telling a story that is somehow peripheral to what happened to LV-426, the Nostromo and the colony.
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Awesome...Thats just made my excitement triple-fold...The Alien movies may as well already take place in HP lovecrafts universe as far as i'm concerned!
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Another original alien sci-fi flick from Ridley Scott. The "Alien" series has been totally played out, so I'm very happy to hear of a new and original script that Scott loves. My interest just went up exponentially. And Noomi Rapace is mesmerizing.
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The two main characters are human males. They are farming on an alien world at the behest of several Space Jockies. The men are being controlled by the Space Jockey's telepathy that causes them to not question their positions. It is like they are trained animals performing tasks for their masters. Like if a children was told to do something by their parents and you asked them why they were doing it and they had no idea. There is also a strange...sexual element that's really gonna mess with people. It's gonna take things to another level, that's for sure. I don't think this following tidbit is really a spoiler, especially now. The Xenomporphs start off as small (perhaps the size of bullfrogs) insectoid creatures who have been genetically engineered to dig tunnels. So the whole hive mentality explored in Aliens has a real parallel genesis. When I first heard that, it kinda pissed me off...but it makes sense and adds a whole new dimension to the xenomporph. Prometheus is a perfect title for this film because the Space Jockey's ARE Dr. Frankenstein. They created this monster and it eventually killed them, as we see on Archeron (later renamed LV426 by Cameron). I don't think this change matters too much in the grand scheme of things. Anyone covering the release of this film is goign to refer to it as an Alien prequel anyway. As long as the Xenomorph design is anywhere in the ballpark of the first one it will work fine as a prequel. Remember, we only saw a decayed, mummified Space Jockey skeleton in the first film and it was also covered (or at least apeared tobe covered) with the skeletal remains of a facehugger. So they have lots of breathing room to create that race and still have it dovetail with the original film.
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They're trying to re-launch a franchise, with two planned Prequels, with the involvement of the original director and creature artist, and putting up a supposed budget of 250 million for the first film alone.... I can't see Fox taking that huge plunge and then just saying go ahead and remove the franchise elements and make whatever you want. There is no way, even with Scott at the helm, there has to be a tie-in to Alien/Aliens and the space-jockeys. I can't imagine Fox deciding to ditch the franchise re-start and sink this kind of cash into an unknown quantity. There is no way, this is a business, not a creative endeavour.... Sounds more like a diversion or Scott talking some crap. This will be an Alien film, or expect some drastic budget cuts and personnel changes.
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I'm actually pretty good with the "pretend it never existed" stuff about bad sequels. This is why i even forget that JAWS and ROBOCOP had sequels, and that DIE HARD 2 exists. And about the ALIEN saga, i'm also very good at dismissing the AVP bulslhit movies as crap that really doesn't matter and don't belong to the ALIEN or PREDATOR franchises at all. I wish i could do the same with Jar Jar Abrams's SHIT TREK. But that movie scarred and traumatized me for life.
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So Alien is about "alien worlds, alien technology and future human technology" is it? Gee, none of us would have understood that had you not pointed it out. I thought the fucking movie was about the perils of eating pasta in space without someone there who knows the heimlich maneuver. And while the film does a fantastic job of keeping just who will be left alive up in the air for most of the film, if you watch, Sigourney she IS the fucking stage for a good portion of the show. She's got balls and is opinionated on what needs to be done and done right, no REAL surprise that she's left standing. As for Aliens, it sure as fuck continues what Alien started. Alien drove home the fact that humans aren't the top of the food chain, that we possibly aren't the most adaptable creature in the galaxy and that we are in fact incredibly frail. Aliens continues that and creates one of the greatest doom and gloom senses of dread I've ever seen in film. Think we aren't tough? We'll send in Marines. Well even then the point of the first film is driven home rather tightly as they get their over-confident asses handed to them. So stop pouting and going on about GIJoe and "Ridley's vision" like you know what the fuck the man had percolating in his head during that production.
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ALIEN is better then ALINS (and i love the latter). You shouldn't feel ashamed and appologise for living ALIEN over ALIENS. It's not as if you are shunning a good movie over a bad one, if you know what i mean. Be proud of thinking like that and fuck the geek mob emntality.
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Abrams' Trek was far and away the best film in a franchise that has lay dormant and dying since what, the fucking early 80s?Easily the best Trek film since Wrath of Khan? Hands down. Fucking Trek reboot haters need to have some goddamned respect for a film that saved the precious franchise you claim to hold so dear. If J.J. didn't kick Trek in the ass, where would it be? Another abysmally boring TNG cast film? Never happen, they didn't make any money. Another series? After Enterprise? Yeah, right. You're so protective over your precious "timeline integrity" and all this other shit that I hear you Trekkie nerds complain about that you fail to see the big picture...years of Trek living on to come are thanks to Abrams' kick-starting the series over again. But keep complaining about "faithfulness to the characters and the mythology" from your mom's basement while you play World of Warcraft and dream of vaginas untouched and untold. Let me know how that works out.
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Not a prequel!! - thank God!! (wipes cold sweat off forehead). Ridley Scott doing an ORIGINAL, epic, sci-fi film - what fucking moron would not want to see this! But I agree with others, please Ridely- no Jolie.
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Trepidation... falling.... ...interest.... rising...
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So you ar eone of the supporters of Jar Jar Abrams's COMPLETE RETARD PIEC EOF SHIT TREK? you drank the kool aid wholesome? You beleived the bullshit? Are you aware that you have just defended one of the top dumbest stupid crapy movie made in the last 25 years? Are you so proud of yourself? I know it's fashionable this days to embrace the dumb, but i piss on that shit. To bash Jar Jar Abrams's SHIT TREK is to know what one is talking about.
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Jan. 18, 2011, 5:54 a.m. CST
And i don't play World of Warcraft, i don't like that crap
by AsimovLives
Nor i am a basement dweller, unlike you, peter frank the Jar Jar Abrams's dick licker. Beside,s in my own country there is no such thing as kids living in their mom's basements. We have proper flats and houses here, and the parents still treat their children right.
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I like how this person keeps coming back with supplemental hatred for Nu Trek. As if to shore-up any possible weakness in his argument. Well let me tell you something, Asshat... I like steak but I don't go into continuous tirades because someone else is a vegetarian. It's called differing opinions. It's called life. Not everyone is going to like the same shit. Get that through your thick, stupid Limey head. When it comes to these Talkback boards, you've become nothing more than a tired act with your venom against Abrams/Nu Trek. Grow up.
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- Harry gets seriously geeky on the very geeky cool STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS! Can't wait for the next one! & See this again! -- 1426 total posts 79 posts
- AVENGERS 2 might be filming in SOUTH AFRICA, does this mean that Black Panther is going to be a part of the action!?! -- 317 total posts 71 posts
- Mr. Beaks Reviews STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS! -- 1124 total posts 65 posts
- Did you guys like RED 2? Oh it's not out yet, well who cares?? Get ready for RED 3 anyways!!! -- 100 total posts 43 posts
- ‘I Am Not Fucking Like You!!’ The 3-Minute Trailer For The Rampling-Enhanced Final Season Of DEXTER!! -- 84 total posts 42 posts
- UPDATE The Friday Docback Calls 'The Name of the Doctor'!! DOCTOR WHO's S7 Finale Arrives This Weekend!! Now With Glen's Ultra-Brief, SPOILER FREE MiniReview!! -- 107 total posts 42 posts
- Christopher Nolan maybe, could be, might be, directing the next BOND film!?!?! -- 508 total posts 33 posts