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Here's our first look at the new Peter Parker and Gwen Stacy!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Now, this isn't a studio still, but it is your first look at the new Peter Parker and Gwen Stacy together!
I love Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker and after seeing Emma Stone's look as Gwen Stacy I was blown away. Steve Ditko would be proud!
I'm starting to get excited for this reboot. I know I should be more cynical, but I like this casting, I like the look of those two together and as much as I love Sam Raimi for the first two Spider-Man films it felt like the series was getting so big, costing so much that it was becoming messy, too many cooks in the kitchen, etc, etc.
Just Jared got the first set of pics, which aren't all that spectacular or amazing, just two kids sitting on the bleachers, but our first look at two great young actors in costume and character, portraying two iconic comic characters. Click the below pic to visit see the whole set!
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After this reboot fails, I'd still like to see Rami's Spider-Man 4.
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I actually kind of like the look of this.
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Works for some talkback and not others? I am 12 years old and what is this?
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Garfield is growing on me the more I watch TSN.But he's still looks 25 not 16-17.Emma Stone is much better then Kirsten Dunst too.
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Jan. 4, 2011, 10:13 p.m. CST
lovely lady. hoepfully it's good. pete looks a little too cool for school...
by George Newman
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Garfield looks alright as parker... and now I'm a little excited for this movie. But just a little.
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Missed it by 55 seconds. Better luck next time. george newman, I agree. PP is supposed to be a science geek, not a male model. What were the chances of them casting someone who actually looked like he was doing a science degree though?
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Is it just me? He's sportin' the GoodWill jacket/gloves and the tight black pants. And haircut.
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Looks as gay as Twilight.
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About the cast staying the same. Nobody was so good in the other films that I care who plays them. That being said, these two look really boring, but I admit to knowing nothing about them. Considering the ridiculous amount of money Tobey asked to be in the fourth film, they were right to jettison the whole bunch and start over. It's always gratifying to see serious greed not get rewarded.
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I doubt it.
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This kid couldn't possibly look any gayer
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he looks like a 30 year old hipster oh and gay
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...you'll be looking at another two new actors to play these roles. Will we ever see an end to these reboots, rehashes and regurgitated ideas?
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Jan. 4, 2011, 10:48 p.m. CST
You retards will pay to see this and fund another lame reboot..
by Rupee88
and then when pay to see that one too...and the cycle goes on and on and on. They wouldn't make shitty movies you din't pay them to.
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No reboots, no sequels, no adaptations altogether. Let's see movies about NEW things.
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what an amazing fucking picture. I saw one like this once. A guy in a beat-up old panel van was snapping pics across the street from a junior high school. Pic looked just like this.
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If ALL of Marvel can't exist together in one universe, than what's the fucking point really..?
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Those C-Stands are fucking awesome!
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She doesn't look any different than BDH did in SM3. She's a blonde girl with bangs. I wouldn't exactly call her a knock-out like Gwen was portrayed in the comics. But you are correct - you *SHOULD* be more cynical. This new SM project is nothing short of studio control and a bunch of suits who think they know better. Sam Raimi was a childhood fan of SM and it showed in his movies. Sony took a chance on him and he repaid them a million-fold with two excellent SM films. Avi Arad and studio interference gave SM3 a black-eye and ruined what could have been a spectacular trilogy. I'm glad Raimi walked away instead of compromising one more time. I will see the new SM film but I am far from convinced that this unnecessary reboot will be as good as Raimi's films and I don't see how Marc Webb is the man for the job. I know their are some fans that aren't a fan of Raimi's SM films but I think a good majority of fans loved them as much as I did.
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Just hit the ground running...errr...crawling...please! I have NO interest in sitting through THAT nonsense again. We all know who the fuck SPIDER-MAN is by now...just start it off with him in the suit and move on.
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Jan. 4, 2011, 10:58 p.m. CST
why do we get 11,374 reboots of Spider-Man
by Wilford_Brimleys_Diabetes_Rage
And yet no one has ever thought of making a Savage Dragon movie..or even Robert Kirkman's "iinvincible"...is it true is Hollywood really filled with brain dead monkeys with sphincter control issues ???
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how are they gonna gay up the suit?
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...just gonna go ahead and say it...though Emma Stone is hot...
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and some pig-faced fattie is Gwen? Also, is he wearing fingerless mittens?!@#?$&?
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I’m wobbling away from this carousel.
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Jan. 4, 2011, 11:08 p.m. CST
"costing so much that it was becoming messy, too many cooks in the kitchen"
by Toruk_Makto
Like the 'kitchen' isn't already packed in this incarnation. Who are you trying to convince with that statement Quint, us or yourself?
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Jan. 4, 2011, 11:17 p.m. CST
Love Emma Stone, she has the career Lindsey Lohan should have had
by DarthMusashi2112
before she went and fucked it all up by getting wasted...go Emma!
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These two are great actors, can't wait for the trailer. Fuck y'all. All y'all.
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another reason to avoid this
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So you're blaming Raimi for Sony fucking up 3.
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Why is Peter Parker almost thirty years old?
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Take from that what you will.
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Me and my bros would have stuffed this chode into a trash can and pulled our dicks out while MJ shit a turd in her hipster leggings
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Marty McFly nerdy than complete dork nerdy, which I think will work perfectly for Spider-Man. I'm excited to give this a chance and was never a fan of Raimi's disappointing trilogy.
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If y'all don't like me, blow me?
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Raimi was told or forced to add things to the movie he did not want to, basically Venom. No one at Sony told him to turn Spiderman 3 into the literal Crying game or to add dance or singing sequences that was all him and screen play he signed off on. We all get told what to do by our bosses and its up to most human beings who give a shit about the product they turn out to make the best of it, Raimi said "fuck it, if I can't do it my way I dont give a shit." by turning into Nero, or Sampson and bringing it down by making the biggest turd next to Batman and Robin.
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What kind of fan fiction Back to the Future version of Marty McFly are you talking about? As far as I can remember, Michael J. Fox never dressed like someone who would get made fun of at a poetry reading.
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jizus chriiiist
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How are they going to shove all that hair under that tight mask? What a profile that is going to make. At least he could have gotten a haircut.
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I still can't believe they are rebooting this- much as I like Emma Stone I'll be giving it a miss- I really don't need to be shown how spider man became spider man..again, I fucking get it already. Move on.
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Hopefully Peter Parker and Spider-man will act like their comic book counter-parts this time around. And the movies won't be a self-aware cheesefest.
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Nuff said
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It's called Spider-man 3.
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When people stop supporting these movies. The movie companies could care less how much you complain on a web site. If you can bring yourself to stop giving them money, it will change.
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...then this image is totally off-putting to me. It's 90% of the way there regardless. No sir, don't like it.
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Doesn't look like PP to me. SKIP.
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Come on, I mean Peter wasnt cool. What the fuck is wrong with his hair, he looks a lot like that guy from The Sorcerers Aprentice. Looks like Douchebag Scott Pilgrim, AND I HATED SCOTT PILGRIM!!
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When do the Harry Potter reboots start? I guess as soon as this last movie comes out, they'll get right on it.
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everybody tends to forget his very first screen appearance : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcxioU7AMM4
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Jan. 5, 2011, 1:56 a.m. CST
Never seen so much unwarranted and baseless criticism.
by IndustryKiller!
And I've been coming tot his site for over a decade. If you still miss Raimi you're fucking tasteless and pathetic. His movies were mediocre to bad. He NEVER got the character of Peter Parker, he NEVER got the character of Mary Jane, he WASTED all the villains, Aunt May was an at best serviceable charicature, and SPider Man 3 is every bit as unwatchable and a crime against the source material as Batman and RObin. If you think Andrew Garfield, who gave two performances THIS YEAR ALONE better than everything Macguire has done in his career combined, looks like a male model then you seriously must be some jealous mongoloid. He looks like a normal reasonably attractive dude, just like Peter Parker does in the fucking comic book. I don't know where you people have totally fabricated that Peter Parker is some nebbish sickly freak, but you're fucking wrong. It's that simple. Whatever Peter Parker you're imagining in your head isn't the one that has been drawn in the comic book for 50 years. That's not an opinion it's a fact. Peter Parker is an unconfident skinny guy in high school and then he graduated and almost immediately evolved into a fairly cool and attractive dude. You want Peter Parker to look like you? Hit the fucking gym. And at the end of the day you'll always have Raimi's bad movies, but it's time to give people with the potential to have an actual understanding of the character the stage.
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so emma stone is signed for 3 flicks. thats 3 bridges, 2 building window falls, 1.5 speeding trains, and 1 helicopter crash.
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How did Raimi 'not get' the characters or waste the villains exactly?
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Don't hang Vultress on Raimi. Rami wanted John Malchovich for the Vulture (the only villain in the movie), but producer Laura Ziskin wanted a hot "name" actress involved - Hathaway, Adams, etc. - so her husband, screenwriter Alvin Sargent, shoehorned the Vultress into the damn thing. Not unlike Avi Arad's insistence on Venom. The first two movies were great, particularly Spider-Man 2. Spider-Man 3 had it's issues, but it does not warrant a complete dismissal or disregard, and certainly not a reboot. The new Spider-Man is going to be a terrible failure, and I am no hater. The approach to the material is screwy, and it isn't like Raimi made a Hulk movie. His Spidey films are insanely successful. This reboot is a studio knee-jerk reaction to the criticism leveled on Spider-Man 3, rightfully or not. Also, sometimes the collaborative process of filmmaking can take on migraine inducing "challenges". This will be a stretch, but the new Spidey flick is akin to rebooting Indiana Jones after "Temple of Doom". Stick with your current lead until he/she doesn't want to do it anymore (Connery/Bond, Keaton/Batman, etc.). No one seems to understand that this is a very risky reboot. It stands to alienate anyone who liked the Raimi films which are not that old, and did very, very well (yes, even 3). I saw 3 with a girl that was, to my surprise, really into it. Girls are a demo that is very difficult to get a hold of in this genre. Also, I have to reiterate that Raimi's films are very financially successful. This franchise isn't the Hulk or Superman Returns. It's really just a shame that Sony didn't give Raimi the support he needed to "right the ship". Spidey 4 could have been as good or better than Spidey 2.
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It's his time and as anyone who has seen all his performances in the last couple of years will attest, the boy can act. Imo he was the best thing about TSN (other than Fincher's assured direction), the 'heart' of the movie.
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-> but they still have to get me interested in some dude who tingles and spews endless yards of webbing out of his wrists. Which hasn't happened. Yet, anyway.
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Dude, you are so far off the mark, I don't know where to begin.
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nasty Twilight vibe from this direction they are going in? It looks like it's gonna be douchy and aim for the female 12-25 crowd.... ick
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Not sure why everyone keeps bringing up Twilight? Neither of them look anything like the Twilight characters. He looks appropriately nerdy and she looks appropriately Gwen Stacy...y. They look nothing like douche Edward and awkward Bella.
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Him and his brother took all the villains that the suits wanted shoehorned into the story and worked their asses off, on the script level, to integrate them in a meaningful way. Saying that Raimi didn't give a fuck is just wrong. Raimi and his brother created an arc for Parker that would match the demonic Venom's attraction to Parker, (his showoffy selfish behavior ends up attracting the demonic Venom to him, and only when he actively fights against venom does venom leave him for someone who is descending morally, but who was pushed in that direction by Parker's douchery), and made Parker's return to moral, non-douche behavior tie into the theme of forgiveness as a way of ending cycles of evil, as with Harry's forgiveness of Parker, and Parker's own forgiveness of Sandman. It took a lot of work to wring some sort of moral point out of all those elements, and you may argue that it wasn't done well, or it was overcomplicated, but it still can't be blamed on the Raimis "not caring". And those of you who keep flapping your gums about "revenge jazz dancing" as if it was self evident of stupidity and goofy lack of care on Sam Raimi's part .... shut up. Stop reciting the meme mindlessly. Sure, Parker was a douche with his black duds and his slicked down hair, and his revenge jazz dance. That was the point. And though it seemed goofy and funny, it had a purpose, because you are snorting at how goofy emo parker is, until he smacks Mary Jane to the ground, and then you fucking gasp in horror. That was Raimi setting you off guard and delivering a sucker punch .... did you not like that he got to you? Anyone who hasn't seen Spider-Man 3 since they first saw it, it's time to give it a look again ... only this time, don't see it just as a Spider-Man film ... I know I didn't like 3 very much because it seemed to be repeating the Mary Jane vs. Parker misunderstandings and whinings that I had had too much of in 2, but, by God, it had the best superhero action of all three films, and quite a lot of it! I found myself, despite my anger at seeing Parker hit Mary Jane (he would NEVER do that in the comics, I complained loudly) enjoying lots of the film in spite of myself. It's beautifully shot. The score is stupendously good. The action scenes are fantastic (I dare you to say you aren't uncomfortably terrified by the Gwen Stacy rescue scene with the out of control crane). Maybe the last Spiderman movie got a bit too serious, morally, for a spidey movie, and that's irritating to a lot of us Spidey Fanboys. But take another look, for God's sake. Stop saying Raimi didn't give a shit. That's a total smearing of the man.
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lmao
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They will still let him cling to the wall! And Spiderman 3 was a good movie. It was very flawed but managed to juggle multiple stories and provide some excellent action. It just didn't all come together at the end. Emo Spidey was funny. You people have no sense of humour.
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Will Mary Jane Watson get pokies in the rain?
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zomben!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't really care about this film and don't care if they make him a nerd or not, but he definitely doesn't look nerdy or dorky there. Emo, hipster, whatever the word kids use today, not nerdy though. Definitely got the Robert Pattison hair going on, good luck to Sony getting that Twilight crowd.
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and give Raimi a pass on that part of the film because Raimi apparently didn't want to use him and was "forced" by some sort of gun to his head after two incredibly successful box office hits. Sandman and his Uncle Ben re-write was just so much worse, and there isn't any justification for the free pass there. It was just bad.
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Spidey 3 is undefendable. I don't care who's fault is it, but that's a terrible movie, not only for the dancing, but for the terribly handled melodrama. I'm looking forward to this new Spidey, seems like Peter is a real nerdy kid and less of a pathetic suicide waiting to happen this time.
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They may not know it, but they are. I think the key to Screen Spidey is to watch Michael J. Fox as Marty McFly. The guy is equal parts nerd and superhero.
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This new reboot is ONLY about all the cooks in the kitchen. I see none of the passion for nor the true fan's appreciation of the original material that Raimi brought to the project. This is even more a producer cluster-fuck than ever. Probably the best that will come from it is it will kill the series under the producers involved and they will get removed from it.
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I guess I have no clue to the social dynamics of high school anymore. Just to me, that doesn't look like a guy that gets picked on. Though I don't buy McFly as a nerd. Hot girlfriend, lead singer in a band, skateboards, and he stands up to the bullies. The weekend before he went back to 1955 he was even going to go to some weekend party at the lake. He wasn't a jock sure, but definitely a cool kid (kids still say cool right?).
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Garfield looks nothing like Peter. I understand you need to update the characters, but Peter Parker is supposed to be a nerd, Garfield in that pic looks like a hipster wannabe. Maybe that´s what they´re aiming for? Yeah, right.
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is 1000 times the actor that Tobey Maguire is. Looking forward to seeing a Spiderman movie that isn't shot like a TV movie.
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.....due to all the injuries? When Garfield fell into the orchestra pit I was SURE this movie would be shelved.
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SOMETHING ABOUT MARY style.
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Emma Stone looks good blond
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Peter Parker is now shopping at Urban Outfitters. I haven't seen TSN yet, but that dude does not look like a nerdy highschool kid.
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I don't give 2 shits what PP looks like in current comics. As far as I'm concerned, he is "puny Parker" - the ordinary geek (albeit a science genius) with whom other geeks are supposed to sympathise. He is made fun of because he is *not* handsome, big or cool. *You* are the one who does not understand his character. *You* couldn't make a film anywhere close to being as good as Spidey 1 and 2, and neither will these guys. Let's see who the 'mongoloid' is when this crapfest hits the streets. I'm not jealous of this guy's looks, I look fine and have an attractive girlfriend, but thank you for your concern :p
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What's wrong with his hands?!?
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absolutely unnecessary dumbfuck remake/rehash
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I still think they should have finished it out with Raimi. This thing has bomb written all over it. I love the supporting cast, but the guy playing Peter makes me want to hit things. Also, its High School where are the glasses? Ditko would have sued Marvel like Kirby did for past pay.
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real geeks seriously need to boycott this movie. i know it may only make a $20m dent in it's $300m gross but if the 'geek' buzz is bad then that may cross over to the mainstream media.
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Nice to see he's wearing webshooters. No wait those are fingerless gloves. Emma Stone is pretty dang cute as Gwen though.
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Yeah, Ditko co-created Gwen, but it was very late in his Spidey run and she was barely noticeable during the 6 issues Ditko stuck around for afterward. It was John Romita's long run in which Gwen truly became the goddess we all remember. Romita was there for pretty much her entire story arc, right up to her death. Someone should ask him if HE approves (I'm sure he would - he's way too nice a guy not to). Cautiously optimistic about this one, but I just wish Garfield was at least 5 years younger...
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Fail!
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has a much deeper voice than Gwen Stacy did in all those speech bubbles.
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at the risk of sounding shallow, I like his hair, the hairstyle that Tobey M had as Peter Parker never quite cut it for me. Peter should have big hair. Hope they nail this. I liked the Sam Raimi Spidey films, but if you watch them all together you'll notice that Peter spends a large ammount of the movies blubbing, when he should be quipping.
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Kids don't need a reason to pick on another kid. Also telling is that some of you think that you can't be both intelligent and stylish. Equally as sad is the idea that Spider-Man shouldn't be made to appeal to young people. Raimi fucked up part three, no one else.
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Exactly what we needed, an updated Spider Man where he is a hipster douche-bag instead of a geek.
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but mostly do to her personality, not her looks. I'm just not buying it as Gwen Stacy. She'd do better in girl next door who you wake up and realize you want to go balls deep in kind of roles.
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Ditko and Lee's Spider-Man had hipster written all over it back in the day. The young characters made snappy, witty pop-culture references, hanged at a Coffee shop, had relationship problems and yeah, they wore what would be considered hipster clothes for that time in the era. Shame for not noticing. C'mon, if any of you read the originals you know this be true.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 7:36 a.m. CST
Peter's hairstyle in this picture was used in Spidey 3 for comedic purposes.
by RedEgiraahgnal
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I guess that's the point, though.
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I don't see anything about this image that's the least bit exciting. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. It's just an on set picture of actors in regular clothes. Now, say what you want about Tobey as Spider-Man, but they did at least make him look like a nerd. This picture doesn't show me that at all.
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Did the studio force Raimi to disregard all previous Spiderman canon by making Sandman the real killer of Uncle Ben?
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Sigh. TERRIBLE. That's all I have to say. That and... TO HELL WITH TWILIGHT. :(
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Because he looks like some kind of NYC street urchin or a bike messenger with that outfit. And the fingerless gloves are gay as shit. The only thing he's missing is a rainbow colored scarf around his neck. Seriously, I am usually very optimistic when it comes to comic book movies and all of the teasers and leaks that come out in advance, but this picture does NOTHING for me. Who gives a shit about how Emma Stone looks, is anyone really going to be driven to see this movie based on Gwen Stacy?
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When did Peter Parker become homeless?
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TO ME, had great action, an actual comic book fight (2 heroes vs 2 villains? thats unheard of!), and I actually enjoy Harrys turn to evil... also, we had the greatest Peter Parker in that movie (even though he was cast as Eddie Brock instead) the thing is, Raimi fucked up Spider-Man from the get go and he is the reason why I dont like like Spidey anymore... Spider-Man is fun and a wise-cracker... I think I can count on one hand how many wise-cracks Spidey made through the entire series... and just the size of Spideys eyes were wrong and just automatically made Spidey "emo" from the get go (Spidey bein "emo" in the 3rd is not new, he was always emo) I dont care bout this reboot, dont care bout Peter Parker the model, I dont care about tryin to hard to be funny/sexy Emmit Stone, and I dont care about Spider-Man anymore... in short, when is BATMAN FUCKIN COMIN OUT?!
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Jan. 5, 2011, 7:49 a.m. CST
Peter Parker ISN'T supposed to look like he walked off the pages of an American Eagle catalog...
by Wes_Reviews_
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Cos I still don't know how he bacame spider man...ahem.
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mention Twilight again why don't you. Unoriginal much?
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The photo doesn't tell us much, so it doesn't change my attitude towards the film. I loved Raimi's work. I thought it was the closest we will ever get of a direct translation of a superhero on the big screen, and it managed to balance all the elements of Lee's Spiderman, from the camp to the melodrama. Raimi, unlike other directors, wasn't embarrassed of these aspects of the comic book. And, like all of Raimi's work, those films were visually inventive. I wish this new director all the luck, but from my vantage point it looks like he has been brought in to save the studios some money and give them more control over the final product.
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he looks like a fucking hobo! goddammit sony...
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BARF. Parker looks way to emo hipster in this and it drives me mad. And the reason for the reboot isn't Spider-Man 3, hell we came inches away from Spider-Man 4 lest we not forget. The reason for the reboot is that A Spider-Man movie has to get made by Sony, otherwise rights revert back to Marvel and god forbid that would happen, because then we might ACTUALLY get a worthwhile Spider-Man movie.
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You are some WHINY motherfuckers. Seems all the stuff people say about you stupid bitches here at AICN is true. You see one out of context picture of two actors sitting on bleachers in the cold and ASSUME it's a shot right out of the film so you attack his clothes, his hair, everything. Tell me this: How cool do you losers look trying to keep warm in January? So he has fingerless gloves on? Who. Gives. A. Fuck? They've been shooting for what...a week...two weeks? None of you have read the script. None of you know what the fuck the film is going to be AT ALL yet and yet you're dropping right to the level of what everyone thinks of you and yelling "Fail" and "this will bomb" and all those oh so trendy saying from five years ago based on ONE FUCKING PICTURE??? Grow up and quit bitching about a funny book movie about a HUMAN SPIDER with fingerless gloves. What a pack of gargoyles. *and i'm sure that ALL of you are thin and have beautiful girlfriends. 'Cause that's what girls love....guys who whine about comic book movies and how gay and emo the actor looks while he's on break. Sure. That's it. I understand.
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mechanical or organic?
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any sense in the comics.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 9:13 a.m. CST
mechanical didn't make sense? he made them, end of story.
by Monolith_Jones
It's a comic for kids, what else do you need?
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No, Marty McFly just wore a huge maroon vest and stone-wash jeans, ha ha. You missed my point completely. It's not that Garfield is dressed just like Marty McFly in this scene, I'm talking about the tone of his nerdiness that is implied by these pictures as compared to the tone set by Maguire's Peter Parker. Geez, try to keep up.
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I remember back in the day when the whiners were bitching about "Mr. Mom" playing Bruce Wayne. Turned out fine. Best Bruce Wayne yet. Yeah, even better than Bale.
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sorry you were offended. Finding something to talk about can be difficult sometimes. We know you and the cast are working hard. BTW I loved 500 Days. Best of luck.
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So, hows your whining turning out? The funniest thing I see here is people whining/bitching/complaining about other people whining/bitching/complaining... And yes, Im whining/bitching/complaining about your whining/bitching/complaining.... PS: Jesus is jackass... all hail Horus!
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well done sir.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 9:20 a.m. CST
where the hell do you people live if you think THAT'S a hipster
by Monolith_Jones
That's how young people dress, you know YOUNG PEOPLE, the audience SPIDER-MAN was created for.
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he runs out of web fluid, they jam on him, they show what a massive science geek he is, the organic ones always seemed non-sensical to me. I mean don't spiders shoot webs out of their butts?
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because... A) It shows Peters intelligence in the fact that he made the shooters and the webbing B) He can run out of the webbing. "Just when I had the Goblin in my sights......FUCK! Out of webbing. Son of a........." Organic is easier and not true to the comic. End of discussion. Not really, discuss all you want, but I'm right.
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Such a douchebag look but..whatever. Pic is cool.
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So he gets every power of a spider except the main and most important one? Right. Organic makes sense. Only uber nerds say different.
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To insult those that liked the Spider-Man films Raimi gave us. Get off your high horse.
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then in that case,the prequel SW movies are great movies.yeah.
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...why not remake george lucas.
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sure it "makes sense". Since when did that get in anyones way. "Only uber nerds say different." You mean like Stan Lee, Steve Ditko, and every artist and fan that loved the character for the last 50 years? I guess you got us there.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 9:59 a.m. CST
If they want to seperate this from Raimi/McGuire Spiderman
by skycrapper
then they should go mechanical web shooters and make his costume actually look like something a high school kid would come up with. One thing that bothered me about Raimi's Spiderman was he expected us to believe that web shooters are impractical/believable but he can make this really unbelievable costume with professionally crafted eye lenses and intricate raised rubber webbing. Don't get me wrong I think it looked great, but it seemed a poor excuse to ditch the web shooters.
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Specially the guy chosen to play Peter Parker/Spider-Man. He was brillant in THE SOCIAL NETWORK, and he's a very good screen presence. In this regard, no worries from me. What might worry me is if the guy who did 500 DAYS OF SUMMER has the minerals to pull this off, and if the studio executives, who once gave Sam Raimi constant hell, will allow the good ideas by the filmmakers to be put onscreen without constant interferences.
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Because all you hatin' bitches will fork out the cash to see this when it comes out. You know you will. That said, the Rami movies were never that great. The first was the best, decent job all around, but 2 was kind of a let down, and 3 was just terrible. Don't care if Rami was "forced" to add a character he didn't want. There was stuff in that movie that was not "forced" on Rami that should never EVER have been in there.
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Ema Stone is playing Gwen Stacy, not Mary-Jane Watson, which was Kirsten Dunst's role in the Sam Raimi movies. The actress who played Gewn Stacy in Raimi's movies was Bryce Dallas Howard. That's who you should compare with.
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"A) It shows Peters intelligence in the fact that he made the shooters and the webbing which contradicts the fact that he didnt use this technology to get rich so that he could provide the best comforts for the golden years of his beloved aunt,to work as a freelancer professional photographer wherever he wanted and only as a hobby and not as a job for survival,working for pennies and having to tolerate the Nazi JJJ and finally he would have the means to help MJ's career and wouldnt have to fear or feel inadequate against the other rich rivals who wanted to tap Jane's ass when he was poor. In other words,Peter Parker is a brilliant guy all right,but he is also a stupid fuck. "B) He can run out of the webbing. " Yeah that can give the action sequences a more thrilling edge,BUT: it's not that his organic web-shooters are so powerful that he wins all the fights because they are in infinite quantity. nothing stops you from having his organism to produce the organic webs non-uninterruptedly the whole time.real spiders dont so that solves this problem. and have you ever sit and consider the whining of the fan-boys and the stupidity of the situation when PP goes in a fight but he lost it because he forgot to refill the mechanical webs the night before or because he kept using them instead of his fists/strength and run out? I am already guessing how Harry Plinkett would comment on the above in his review: "Just when I had the Goblin in my sights......FUCK! Out of webbing. Son of a........." Harry Plinkett: ""Why dont you make bigger containers for the mechanical webs? or compress the web more in them? why not a small emergency reservoir container in the wrist above? or why dont you have some kind of warning when your web container is about to get empty so that you can plan ahead? you know like the warning all the cars show when the car is about to run out of gasoline so that you have the time to get it to an oil station before your cars stops completely in the middle of nowhere. or why do you depend so much on your web shooters during your fights? especially when you know that your shooter have the risk of running out in the middle of the fight? what if the Goblin was coming at you to kill you instead of fleeing away? what would have you done in that case without your shooters? or why you didnt prepare accordingly and check that your shooters are filled since you know that an impending fight was coming? WHY YOU STUPID FUCK?""
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SM1 was great,SM2 is a very overrated average sequel (best comic-book movie ever made? HA dont make me laugh) and SM3 is unwatchable. Not that Raimi didnt a good job in adapting Spidy for the big-screen but the thing is that we got the 70s spidy adaptation which the older fans know better and its the one that Raimi was grew up with. But now i am afraid we are going to get the Ultimate Spidy movie adaptation which might be good for Sony from a business perspective and the younger Spidy fans might like it,but personally as an 80s/90s Spidy fan i am not that interested with this reboot.but i will watch it from curiosity nevertheless.
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Macguires Peter Parker is less an uncoordinated insecure kid than he is a nebbish annoying Revenge of the Nerds caricature. He's just as flagrantly voice cracking cliche nerd in frame one of the first SPider Man movie as he is in the last frame of the third. There's almost ZERO character arc in 3 films. Sure things happen to him, but Macguires performance doesn't change one little bit, no evolution is recognized in his performance. If you've read the comic book since, oh, THE EARLY 70'S, you'll know that Parker graduates from high school and actually becomes a well adjusted, cool guy. I also don't think he made any strides in making his relationship with Aunt May anything with any sort of believable depth. Mary Jane.....jesus christ. Dunst MJ is a petulant bitch without an ounce of likability let alone shows Peter the infinite compassion she shows in the comic. Of course Raimi doesnt help by saddling the characters with the same "Where are we at Peter?.....I just can't love you MJ." Over and over and over and over and over again. And Dunst and Macguires chemistry is a contradiction in terms. If you can watch those movies and feel like you're watching two soul mates connect I'm gonna have to call you a liar. And how did he waste the villains? By saddling them with absurd Macguffins and, with the exception of Defoes Green Goblin, making their storylines almost completely disconnected and arbitrary from everything else going on in the film, and never exploring who their characters are and how they really connect to Spider Man besides that they need beating up (and whenever Raimi tried to do that he came up with ridiculous herecy like Sandman killing Uncle Ben.)
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Jan. 5, 2011, 10:26 a.m. CST
Wait, who wants to see a shitty costume made by a high schooler?
by D.Vader
I think that's the last thing we want to see on Spider-Man- a cloth outfit.
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Blondes are cast as redheads and redheads are cast as blondes. Is there a fucking reason for this because it looks atrocious.
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Before they're released. Isn't that the next logical step?
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No only an uber nerd world need a realistic explanation of how Peter Parker could build web shooters. A reasonable person would say "whatever, its a fantasy".
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Yeah I'm back! But by mistake I think. Looks like other fallen talkbackers are back from the dead, a result of this crappy talkback design I suppose. I'm in a hotel forced to surf on my iPhone. Watching DragonBall Evolution on hbo. Now THAT is a bad movie. I'll take Spider-Man 3 over this or The Tooth Fairy (previous movie) any day!
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Odd that they cast the blonde Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane instead of as Gwen Stacy when she was better suited as Gwen Stacy and they didn't need to die her hair ... and now they've cast the perfect redhead Mary Jane as a blond Gwen Stacy. Strange. Emma couldn't be more perfect for Mary Jane. Odd as odd can be.
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Emma is a blonde who has been dying her hair red for years. So this is naturally what she ought to look like. But she changed to red because that's what suits her best and she's taken every role Lindsay Lohan ought to have had if she hadn't fallen into drinks and drugs. Odd the producers didn't wait to cast her as Mary Jane.
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i was thinking of getting some for work during the recent coldness here in blighty and i googled them - apparently fingerless gloves on a man are seen by many to be GAY. seriously, look it up.
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...that many are trying to make, is that Peter Parker is not supposed to be cool. I get "that's how young people dress". I get that you can "be both intelligent and stylish". But that's not the character. I don't expect him to be dressed in a bow-tie and sweater-vest, but he shouldn't look like a GAP ad either. That, and the motherfucker looks like a grad student
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has everyone forgotten she's a natural blonde? huh? she did look good as a redhead though.
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slagging off an entire film because in one picture an actor is shown wearing fingerless gloves? For all you know this could be off screen and he had cold hands in between takes. Or maybe he wears the gloves. Who cares!? Fucking morons.
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"why you didnt prepare accordingly and check that your shooters are filled since you know that an impending fight was coming? WHY YOU STUPID FUCK?" So by that rational whenever a hero runs out of bullets in a film, say like Indiana Jones in TOD, they're a stupid fuck cos they didn't prepare? Maybe Indy should have a few bullet belts cris crossed over his chest? Or Spidey could have a massive aqua lung on his back filled with web fluid? So he never runs out? I couldn't give a flying fuck what Plinkett says or thinks.
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I like Marc Webb's stuff, Summer, MCR's Helena video, so I'm trusting the guy that was coq-bloqing Heath in Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus is worthy of slinging webs. Wait and see...that's how I'll be.
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there was this pic took of him where people were captioning what he may have been thinqing, cuz he kinda looked sad. It was a minor event, but I thought it was kinda funny that it got to the point where Keanu's reps had to issue a statement that he was fine. Anyway, this pic on the bench kinda reminded me of that.
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My point is that clothes dont make you cool.this talkback proves it as some seem to want to beat him up because of the way he looks. Yes the "wrong" clothes will get you picked on, but having the "right" clothes certainly does not protect you. Especially a good student like Peter Parker is supposed.to be. To judge a characterization off of one still picture is not normal.
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I thought Marc was considering putting her in a substantial role in this fliq....any update verifying or debunking that?
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Haters can hate all they want.
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I see what you did there.
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and you will find millions of photoshoped pics making fun of the original pic with the bench.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 11:26 a.m. CST
Spider-Douche, Spider-Douche, Douches Whatever A Spider Douches
by NeonFrisbee
Gwen Stacy looks cute, but Spider-Douche looks like a RAGING douche-bag. Tobey Maguire owns the role and this reboot is pointless and stupid. On other hand, it can't possibly be as hysterically awful as SPIDER-TWINK: TURN ON THE FAIL.
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that's what emotion that picture evokes!
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In this one he fights hunger and his struggle to find shelter.
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Nailed it.
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"So by that rational whenever a hero runs out of bullets in a film, say like Indiana Jones in TOD, they're a stupid fuck cos they didn't prepare? Maybe Indy should have a few bullet belts cris crossed over his chest? Or Spidey could have a massive aqua lung on his back filled with web fluid? So he never runs out?" Ah but you ignore something.When PP puts his mask on he becomes a super-hero sworn to fight crime and injustice.For him it is a fact that he is going to involve himself into serious fights and face dangerous opponents. Which means that he will always try to be as prepared as possible before going out to fight someone. And yes in the comics he is always prepared,you see him carrying backup web-cartridges in his belt,location or voice transmitters,even a web-made backpack carrying clothes,his camera,more web-cartridges,etc imagine that heh?
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how was your period in exile? did you dig the support? i spent 2 weeks amalgamating your name with every article heading :-)
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his belt spider-signal and spider-mobile! Seriously, I understand why the film makers have gone with the organic shooters. However, I will always prefer the mechanical ones. That's it, I'm done.
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...i'm not seeing this movie but if i did i would want to see mechanical webshooters.
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but didnt JC use organic web shooters in his SM script for the same reason as well?
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Do we know who's playing Jonah Jameson in this reboot? Of all the roles in the first series, Simmons is the toughest to replace - he was perfect.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST
Screw the reboot. I want to see a montage of every injury caused by this Broadway show in IMAX 3D
by AzulTool
By the end of it's run, we should have enough material to fill a new trilogy.
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Yes, JC did use organic web shooters in his treatment. And you know what? His script was fucking awful, its probably available on the ahem Web somewhere if you want to see for yourself how bad it is.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 12:31 p.m. CST
It looks like the behind scenes pic of the next Teen Nick movie.
by Orionsangels
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Harry is such a lame-ass geek, this is the kind of thing he would have spanked his junk to before sitting down to write a 9000 word article on that we would have had to suffer through reading before the hate-bloggers would have started pounding him on. Quint is cool, so this is a good article.
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Exile was fine. Aside from a few articles I really wanted to jump into, for the most part I just watched aicn go down like a sinking ship. Talkbackers getting banned left and right, others finally ditching the site, tired of the careless attitude of the mods. I actually started coming much much less than I used to and spent more time at Slashfilm and Cinematical getting good cool news. And yeah dude I saw all your posts and I was diggin' it! Thanks for the support. I really appreciated it back then, from you and everyone who thought it was a bad deal. I made a list of the good guys and those who were unfortunately also banned in my wake. Thanks again buddy. I'm glad I finally have the chance to tell you that.
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Well, fuck. Spider-Man goes from doing scat in Part 3 to singing about having to choose between playing basketball or being in the school play in this one? I'm now completely convinced SPIDER-MAN 2 was a fluke and that everybody associated with the franchise has their collective heads wedged up their asses.</p><p> I'm still unsure why the hell this needs a reboot -- I assume the astronomical sum of money (actually, one of the highest-grossing movies of all time) the third one made was still considered a bust? Macguire made an okay-enough Peter Parker, they just needed to redub his Spider-Man dialogue with Topher Grace's smart-ass voice or something. And I guess the tradition of "Peter Parker only likes ugly-ass chicks" continues here? Mark Webb may kinda sorta get a pass because 500 DAYS OF SUMMER wasn't bad, sort of a chick flick for guys. He's probably almost as qualified as Raimi was when he got the first SPIDER-MAN movie gig. All I can say is, there had damn well better be a for-real Green Goblin in this one ... yes, the one with the pointy ears and the purple hoodie.</p><p> By the way, stop going on and on about Cameron's scriptment. A) it was terrible and b) it was terrible because Cameron took whoever's money and cobbled together a Frankenstein monster out of all the lame, shitty scripts and treatments that were already available. In other words, I don't think he added anything except the organic web-shooters. There was even one version of the script or scriptment that had Schwartzenegger (we'll assume, since Cameron was going to direct it) as Doc Ock and his catchphrase "Okey-dokey!" Look it up.
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Go fuck it all up again
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He could have been an excellent Doc Ock. I mean shit he's austrian and, despite not being a great actor, has an insane amount of screen charisma and can ham it up (and lets face it thats what all great actors playing villains are doing) in just the right way under the right director and script.
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I don't know anything about the comics, but one of the things I detested about the Raimi Spiderman trilogy was the Mary Jane Olson character. Not only is Dunst annoying, but Mary Jane was such a bed-hopping whore it was hard to have any sympathy for her. I don't know why we need another Spiderman movie, but I guess I might check it out on Netflix.
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With the Neal Adams illustrations, right? I didn't like it much.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 2:41 p.m. CST
Re: Emma being better suited for MJ because she was a redhead...
by Novaman5000
She's originally a blonde...
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1. Webs come from a spinneret from the back of the spider not from it's legs nor do spiders have the ability to project their web, it is just secreted, it is more logical that it came from his mouth when he was a man spider than from his wrists in the movies. Spider-Man was Science Fiction the movies made it Science Fantasy. If anything, the biological web shooting was added to cut out the web shooter creation due to time constraints in the movie world or glossed over because the target mass audience are mental midgets. 2. It shows Peter's intelligence and resourcefulness. They didn't just eliminate his web shooters they eliminated his utility belt. 3. Shooting a web ball or adjusting the consistency of the web as it comes out of a shooter, by having different mixtures and nozzle settings, makes sense but doesn't as a biological function. You can't through sheer force of will control the consistency of your shit or tears. 4. How do you add garlic to fight Morbius, are they going to have him eat tons of garlic on his pizza? 5. It was a staple of adding suspense in the comics when he would run out of web fluid or they were destroyed by the villain and his resourcefulness, my favorite trait about Peter Parker, would again become a factor. 6. Venom being able to generate web via the symbiote becomes a non-issue. But I guess casting a skinny stoner kid as Venom makes Venom a non-issue. 7. Without the web-shooter how does he fire his tracking device? Oh that's right we don't need that either. 8. Peter Parker as a 'freak' is not important to the Spider-Man universe until he becomes the man spider. Giving him organic web creation effectively gives him all of a spider's powers without any of the downfalls, eight arms, eight eyes, body hair, and pincers. 9. Without his ability to create a web shooter how do you place his intelligence and fabrication skills on par with Mr. Fantastic and Tony Stark. 10. The only thing dumber than the organic web shooter is replacing the role of Jubilee in the X-Men movies with Rogue.
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Looked more like Mary Jane than Kirsten Dunst ever could so why play Gwen Stacy?
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it would use technology and chemistry to create synthetic web formula and mechanical webshooters. Think about it. Organics are incredibly uninspired by comparison. Yeah lets take Peter Parker's greatest contribution to his own super-abilities and replace it with another boring mutation.
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Uh...no. No, we're not. But thanks for looking into your crystal ball. I'd like a refund.
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what? Spider-man? zzzzzzzzzzzz
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you're welcome sir. it was a pleasure. it really united a lot of people. i know we essentially love harry and his site but the slope has been steep ever since mori left. harry has always been true to his feelings and i know exactly where he comes from with his gushing over movies. my friends have ridiculed me for years when i go on about my new 'favourite' film. and quint still has my respect, possibly capone, but the people that precipitated that shitstorm should've been canned a long time ago. welcome back.
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awesome Doc Ock villain.Not than Molina wasnt great,but Arnold would have been great too under Cameron's direction.
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I missed the mechanical webshooters in the Raimi films. It's a potential weakness that humanizes the protagonist, grounding him in reality. It is a sorely missing component in the movie franchise that I am sad to see so casually dismissed. I can get over it, and have, but it still reeks of lack of imagination.<P> That doesn't mean it cannot be done! Are we not fanboys? Is our collective imagination not boundless?<P> Okay, so Peter isn't such a genius that he could invent a new cash cow for 3M. But, let's say his mutation is erratic and emanates useless, sticky spooge. This is where Peter's budding genius kicks in. He disassembles and reworks the guts of a lighter or spray can, making a gadget he wears on his wrist that directs and controls the useless flow from his wrists into a useful stream of webbing, compleat with nozzles to control the spread from a zip line to a wide net.<P> This would be the best of both worlds. The origin of the webfluid is explained in a way that keeps Peter's intellect intact while not making one wonder why he wouldn't patent the technology as it is useful only to he. Plus, these things could still be crushed by an enemy rendering Peter without webshooters. Heroes are defined by their weaknesses. This would make the character much more interesting as well as hewing much more closely to the source material.
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Why the fuck would he develop two Spinnerets in his damn wrist of all places. A piders Spinnerets are located the abdomen not on his legs or or any were else. Raimi did it because it was convenient.
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but most of em are useless in a Spider-Man movie. 1. I dont ever see Morbius being in a SM movie and if he ever was, well I think it would be very twilighty 2. Mr Fantastic and Tony Stark doesnt exist in the SpiderMan universe (unless Sony gave up the rights or whatever legal mumbo jumbo) 3. Man Spider would never happen either... unless its a TV mini-series... even if they did have the balls to go that route in the movies, (mostly) EVERYONE would complain that there wasnt enough time devoted to that storyline and the characters and blah blah blah (see most criticisms of SM3) but maybe all this would change when Marvel actually has power over its shit... one day, maybe in 2981
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they aren’t comparable to a spider’s true natural abilities, like that extra-sensory perception that we all know spiders to have. The mechanical web shooters are a ludicrous idea.
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I could not have said it better. I really dont care if they do organic or Mechanical. But It has to be said that Organic shooters coming out of his WRIST is rediculous.
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...nitpicking. Now I'm not talking about the completely valid and warranted Spiderman 3 criticism, but everything else about the asthetics of the picture. I have complete confidence in the actors in these roles. My concerns lie more in the story and script. Maybe when I hear more about that I'll react.
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1. Webs come from a spinneret from the back of the spider not from it's legs nor do spiders have the ability to project their web, it is just secreted, it is more logical that it came from his mouth when he was a man spider than from his wrists in the movies. Spider-Man was Science Fiction the movies made it Science Fantasy. If anything, the biological web shooting was added to cut out the web shooter creation due to time constraints in the movie world or glossed over because the target mass audience are mental midgets. If SM the comic is scifi,then the spiderman should have died from the moment it went through the radioactive ray.And there is no established scientific rule on how a human/spider hybrid would look like or function. Both Spidy comics and movies are fantasy material for kids with a bunch of scifi ideas here and there.nothing more. Really is this supposed to be an argument at all? 2. It shows Peter's intelligence and resourcefulness. They didn't just eliminate his web shooters they eliminated his utility belt. If Parker was so intelligent that he could build by himself and as a college student a super glue with unique properties while all the multi-million mega-corps with their thousands scientists around the world were incapable of such an achievement,then nothing could stop him from helping the world by being both a masked super-hero and an insanely rich businessman and scientist. You know like Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne do in their comics for the last 50 years but somehow PP is so fucking stupid to think that he can do it like this too? 3. Shooting a web ball or adjusting the consistency of the web as it comes out of a shooter, by having different mixtures and nozzle settings, makes sense but doesn't as a biological function. You can't through sheer force of will control the consistency of your shit or tears. Nature is incapable of adjusting the parameters of its projectiles.right..: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projectile_use_by_living_systems 4. How do you add garlic to fight Morbius, are they going to have him eat tons of garlic on his pizza? The real question is how Morbius is going to fly in the movie.Will he fly using wings which is scientifically possible or by using "magic" like the "scientific" comics. The second real question should be: will he sparkle too? There are garlic sprayers btw. 5. It was a staple of adding suspense in the comics when he would run out of web fluid or they were destroyed by the villain and his resourcefulness, my favorite trait about Peter Parker, would again become a factor. As i already pointed out,if you want to showcase PP's resourcefulness in an action sequence and increase its suspense,there are hundreds of ways to do that while keeping the organic shooters: have the villain burn or break his hands,have the villain with some kind of advantage which render his shooter useless ie the battle happens in a slaughterhouse where the wet,blood surface doesnt allow the web to stick (you add gore too),have the villain poison PP thus making his body ill and incapable of producing the web or being strong and resilient. see there? no need for "head hurts,cut head" solutions.. 6. Venom being able to generate web via the symbiote becomes a non-issue. But I guess casting a skinny stoner kid as Venom makes Venom a non-issue. What do you mean? I dont understand what you are trying to say,but i find it very logical that the symbiote is able to create organic webs because it imitated that ability from PP's DNA when it was fused with him.Along with the rest of his powers. But if PP was using mechanical webs,then how the fuck did the symbiote learn how to create organic webs? did it study chemistry too? did it read PP's mind,took the knowledge and later told Eddie to buy a chemistry set and guided him on how to make mechanical webs? WTF? 7. Without the web-shooter how does he fire his tracking device? Oh that's right we don't need that either. why should we? is it necessary for the movie's plot? if yes,then you can have him throw it to stick in the car with his,you know,super strong arm.you know this isnt the 70s spider-man tvseries where he fired the tracking device and then we watched him on a rood of a scrape searching the flagged car with his cheesy scanning device. 8. Peter Parker as a 'freak' is not important to the Spider-Man universe until he becomes the man spider. Giving him organic web creation effectively gives him all of a spider's powers without any of the downfalls, eight arms, eight eyes, body hair, and pincers. And web-organic how exactly makes him a monstrous freak? we are talking about the metaphor of the freak idea,not a literal idea. 9. Without his ability to create a web shooter how do you place his intelligence and fabrication skills on par with Mr. Fantastic and Tony Stark. By banging a super-hot,redhead model makes him very intelligent by default.But aside from that,I dont think that PP being very intelligent was ever a part of his character that was focused a lot even in the comics.In the Ultimate comic is a web designer ffs. But even if you need to show him as intelligent in the movie,there are a lot of ways that you can do it.Have him use his brain to disable a super-bomb or face the doom device of a mad scientist like they did ,you know,in SM2... again the "head hurts,cut head" solution is excessive... 10. The only thing dumber than the organic web shooter is replacing the role of Jubilee in the X-Men movies with Rogue. Again who gives a fuck.Wolverine is supposed to be a dwarf,but they used a 2m actor to play him.I dont see you complaining about that. Besides it's nice to know that Rogue becomes a sultry slut later in her vampire adventures,which is not far away from her character in the XMEN comics.HA.
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well done sir.
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I could not have said it better. I really dont care if they do organic or Mechanical. But It has to be said that needing mechanical webshooters is not as significant to the general public as it is to people who pay money for 15 pages of ink and color
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Jan. 5, 2011, 5:21 p.m. CST
Spider-Tween, Spider-Tween, does whatever the fug a Spider-Tween does.
by HelveticaConspiracy
This still is for all you a-holes who wrongly accused Raimi and Maguire of doing an emo-Parker. THIS is what an emo-Parker looks like: A douchey tween with wind blown gel hair and a whiny ass look on his face.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 5:27 p.m. CST
Raimi film MJ was much like the soapy Gwen of the comics
by lettersoftransit
Kirsten's MJ wasn't written like the good-timey hippie that was the early MJ in the comics. She was written much more like the 1970s version of Gwen, after the character had been put through so many soap opera misunderstandings and mixups that she became almost too good and boring, so they killed her off. But as she was originally, she was much tougher and funnier, and her only real weakness was an instantaneous attraction to Peter, partly because she admired his genius for science. But the way Steve Ditko drew her was generally the way he drew all women -- which is to say not very attractive. Which is why Stan Lee had to put in so much dialogue that she was a goddess, because the drawings sure didn't convey it. Only later, when John Romita took over, did she become the super hot, super smart girl next door of your dreams.
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Fug you, Raimi haters. You gave us this.
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I just wish it was Marvel doing the rebooting to tie it in with their new movie universe. Sony rebooting their own set of films is plain idiotic.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 5:31 p.m. CST
There's a perfectly reasonable explanation for why Peter Parker didn't get rich off the web fluid.
by mortsleam
They could have said he's taking an Advance Placement Chemistry class and working on a project to develop a liquid adhesive as part of an internship for, I dunno, Oscorp or Stark Industries or something. He loses out on the internship because the stuff breaks down and disintegrates within an hour. He can't figure out what he did wrong, and it's useless as a liquid, but he finds out that by forcing it through a nozzle at high pressure it makes a great web. One that conveniently disappears in 60 minutes and doesn't leave the entire city of New York covered in super strong mutant spider silk. I mean, really, ew.
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from his ass.i imagine his first confrontation with Goblin. -Goblin: I am going to kill you SM. SM sits on his knees,while facing Goblin with his ass and puts his pants down. -Goblin: Wha..what the fuck are you doing? -SM: I am getting ready for our fight. -Goblin: Getting ready,how?? Are you going to fart me to my death? -SM: No,i am going to fart you with THIS. Then SM farts from his ass a web-projectile in the shape of a big turd.It hits Goblin in his face. Goblin shouts with disgust: -OH MY GOD.YOU BLINDED ME WITH YOUR FECES YOU FUCKING FREAK. You can title it Spider-Jackass 3D.thank you.
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if my marijuana induced memories serves me correctly, didnt they have a character like that on Venture Bros this season?
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in a fantasy comic-book made for kids.not in a movie which tries to be a bit realistic and explain things with the use of science. In the real world,if you can make this kind of miracle glue,but the companies dont invest on it because of a small drawback which can probably be fixed,then we all would still use floppies for our computer files...
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coincidentally, I flipped through the first Gwen story about the time LA Confidential was released, and you'd almost swear that, for one frame, anyway, Ditko drew Gwen as a mid-30s Kim Basinger and somehow did it when Basinger herself was still a toddler. Okay, enough comics memory lane. Back to work,.,....
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Organic just makes more sense. I mean, what the fug did the radioactive Spider give him, if not web shooters?!
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Jan. 5, 2011, 6 p.m. CST
Why does Parker use web formula for heroics and not getting rich?
by Nerd Rage
Because "with great power comes great responsibility". C'mon, you people should know this by now.
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or a script writer...
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That's the reason he didn't get webbing abilities. That would require spider glands and organs which is pretty disgusting.
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You Raimi dick riders want the Vulturess and other Raimi bullshit crammed into a SM4 with bored actors sleepwalking through it. If you think the Raimi movies are the end-all and be-all of possible Spider-man then you have the imagination of a deformed jellyfish.
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A good sign your well is dry. But is was pretty dry to begin with.
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obviously
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mine have run out.if you could send me some..
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is almost as stupid as rebooting Spider-Man after Raimi (and Maguire) already laid down the PERFECT ideation of the hero. Yes, I know, Spider-Man 3 was a mess, but the first two were pretty much perfect. Look, EVERYTHING about Spider-Man is totally ridiculous. EVERYTHING about MOST superheroes is totally ridiculous. If you can accept that a dude could gain superpowers from an irradiated spider bite, then you should be able to accept either organic or mechanical web shooters. That said, I guess organic web shooters is more consistent with the idea of physical transformation. But mechanical shooters shouldn't be a deal-breaker. What SHOULD be a deal-breaker, is, again, the idea that they would attempt to reboot the series to begin with. Like they're gonna top Raimi's version? NO! I certainly have no desire to see this. It looks awful. Gwen Stacy girl is cute, but the dude looks like a douche.
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Do you have counter-arguments? No? I didn't think so.
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All signs indicated a SM4 by Raimi was only going to be worse. The actors were tired of doing Spider-man and were asking for a kings ransom. The villian was going to be called the Vulturess. Wake up Raimi cheerleaders, the reboot was the best option, unless you wanted to kill the franchise because Raimi left, which would've been beyond stupid.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST
I Don't Think They Should Do A Part 4 AT ALL, Even With Raimi
by NeonFrisbee
What's the point? Part 3 showed that the whole operation had run out of steam. LET IT GO. They're just exploiting a cash-cow now. And it looks awful. That dude looks like a total douche.
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Hopefully, some 10 or so others read that behind you and just didn't post in reply. I've been barking loud and proud that BOTH webshooter camps could be satisfied even when organic shooters were only rumored during development of the first film.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 7:14 p.m. CST
Can someone anyone explain the Logistics of how or why Organic shooter would come out of his WRIST
by Phategod100
That's my beef its way too convenient and makes no sense to come out of some invisible orifice in his wrist. that and like leeland said changing the consistancy instantly, and making a web in a split second the "making the web in a split second" I can forgive but the Wrist thing I've always found puzzling as hell.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 7:30 p.m. CST
They should have had the organic shooters come out of his nipples.
by Ringwearer9
And Parker could cut little holes in his costume for them. Maybe in the Joel Schumacher Spider-Man films.
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bit to answer your question who gives a fuck as long as it fits the realism of the world that the movie tries to establish in order to make the protagonist more related to the audience. If you had SM to shoot the web from his ass like real spiders do,then the movie would be a comedy,if you had him to shoot it from his mouth it would gross,etc. The organic shooters would have been convenient in the movie's plot if ie was the only weakness of super-villain who happens to be allergic to them.Are they convenient for the hero to shoot him from the wrists instead of his ass? sure.but from the perspective of making a movie which will entertain an audience,that is not a flaw because it also happens to make the movie more serious,the fights more realistic,the protagonist more grounded to reality. I mean would you like to see Wolverine's hands with their retracting claws on the wrists instead as mutated humanoid paws with claws because from a biological perspective it ,supposedly,makes more sense? i dont think so. Really guys,you should watch Plinkett's reviews about the prequel SW Trilogy and listen carefully to what he says about constructing a world which feels alive and where its protagonists can relate to us the normal,everyday people.
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MJ and PP while making sex: -MJ: what the hell is this thing sticking on my boobs? -PP: oh thats my jizz. -MJ:ALREADY? we havent even start. -PP: oh no,not that.the other stuff. -MJ: gross!! i am going to have a shower.and when i return,dont dare to put your thing near my mouth again. -PP: so that means you wont blow me tonight too? -MJ: Well you are supposed to be the genius.Figure it out by yourself.
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Say something profoundly and demonstrably stupid like "Steve Ditko would be proud!" How can anyone be so ignorant of Ditko's attitude, history, and philosophy that they would actually make a statement like this? To imply that Ditko would give a rat's ass about a couple of overpaid posers pretending to be characters that he created and lost control of.... it's just in agonizingly poor taste, especially considering he's still around and still bitter.
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Spider-man is bigger than the actor or director, there should and will always be a Spider-man project, just like Bond. If this flops move on to the next actors and director.
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This "reboot" business is senseless, and I don't like the details we're getting on the story and characters involved. The whole mess just feels like the wrong direction to be taking things. And it STILL won't be a faithful comics adaptation, you just watch and see. At least if it was there'd be some excuse for rebooting.
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See, there's an option you're not considering there... Raimi leaves, new people come in, and it's still called "Spider-Man 4" not a total reboot.
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Jan. 5, 2011, 8:52 p.m. CST
THIS is the problem that the organic webshooters has wrought...
by Immortal_Fish
...instead of conveniently heading off the question at the pass, it has instead introduced more questions. "The mutation should have resulted in him produced webbing from his maw!" "The mutation should have resulted in him produced webbing from his ass!" "Oh, yeah. And he also gained that commonly known arachnid ability called 'spider-sense!'" Whatever. I've made my case again and again. Both camps could be satisfied. But they won't be.
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Arnold would have made a great Doc Ock where presumably Molina's was sub-par? Arnold is possibly the *worst* actor to ever cut a million dollar paycheck - how would he have supported your grand vision of a "rich" Spider-man movie? According to you every cast member in Raimi's films was awful or "wrong" (try a little objectivity some time) but somehow the Austrian Oak would have helped inject the "gravitas" you so desperately crave rather than undermine it completely? Does this vendetta of yours against Raimi et al get tiring at all? Do you stop to eat or bathe?
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I understand about making it like Bond but if thats the case there is no need for pointless Origin stories and retconning. As for Logistics against Logic. I meant I want a simple explanation as how he can shoot webs out of his wrist "Organically". Spiders and insect that make cacoons in larve stages have things called Spinnerets. its not in a Spiders mouth or in his ass, or in his "Nipples" or there penis. The same way he didn't Grow 4 additional appendages it make sense to say he would not have the ability to spin a web without Spinnerets and if he did grow Spinnerets they would be at the base of abdomen "the taint" to be specific have fun with that. But did Raimi's "organic web shooters" take me out of Spiderman? no his emo acting (since pt 1) and weak villians did.
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Twin, and Junior, you are God amongst men.
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his insufficient muscle mass doesnt explain how he is able to lift cars in the air.he is not even muscular,he is in the fitness category. He also needs to eat constantly a lot of food because all these aerobics,and swinging and powerful punches and lifting cars would require tremendous amounts of energy. And that also begs the question where the fuck does he store his energy since,as i already pointed out,he has a fitness body aka very few fats. Maybe he carries with him the whole time a pack with meatballs cooked by his beloved Aunt. And lets not discuss how that spider-sense works,because not only the spiders dont have it but neither the mediums and the rest of the gifted ones with paranormal abilities...
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Spiders are strong being able to lift 4 times there own weight. Raimi never focused certain things, All Im trying to say and your proving my point is that having Organic webshooters from his wrist makes No sense other then convenience.
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...they're finally filming it. About damn time.
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1st off anyone debating the webshooters based on realism or "it makes no sense" need to realize that this is a movie and none of it makes any sense. I like the mechanical better because 1. tradition, 2. it fleshes out the characters science background, and 3. it adds suspense as noted before because it is not an infinite supply. As far as his powers being like that of a spider I have never felt that was the point. He got bit by a spider so he took the powers that gave him and applied it to make him like a spider. He was smart enough to combine the gifts he was given by the spider with the gifts he already had (his mind) and make it into a cohesive whole of the sider as a tribute to the bite in the 1st place. It was never meant to be "I got bit by a spider so now I can do everything a spider does" At least I never took it that way. Only after combining his mind WITH his powers did he get to that.
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and that explains the webshooters coming out his wrists.... and they feed off his blood and live forever (just in case you ask how they survive for so long)
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It's a link, it's a still, it's a....nother commercial on AICN!
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Sony is so fuckin' lame for dropping Toby and co. So fuckin' lame! I hope this shit falls on it's face...or the negative gets melted somehow.
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Since when does Peter look like a cross between Larry on the 3 stoogies and a Stoner? Gwen also looks like there is something wrong with here face. First Broadway now the movie, I think Spiderman biggest villian is now Sony Picturesl. Crash and burn baby
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I'd rather watch people break their necks on Broadway...
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dont make sense from a biological point.not from a story or character point. and i am giving specific examples of why the other spider-powers dont make any sense as well biologically speaking. in other words,if you whine about the organic shooters not making any sense biologically,you should also whine about the other powers well. otherwise you are using double standards.simple as that.
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Jan. 6, 2011, 8:22 a.m. CST
A-A-A-AAA-AAAH... A-A-A-A-A-A-AH... SPECTACULAR, SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN!
by Triple_J_72
If I hear that fucking song in the opening credits, I'm walking out.
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But they shouldn't have been coming out of his wrists if he's to emulate a real spider. He shoulda been shooting webs out of his ass.
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That's funny. I don't have a dog in this fight but it will be interesting to come back and dig through this talkback in 2012 when the film opens to 80-90 million dollars that first week and all the same people who are whining and bitching and crying and throwing around oh so of the moment words like "Fail" and "Twilight:Spiderman" and obssesing about goofy shit like fingerless gloves are all praising the film for doing it right and looking cool and finally erasing the stench of SM3 (which wasn't close to the worst film of the Summer it was released) and all that shit. What's even funnier is that every single one of the people who would come to a film site, find a story about a photograph of two actors shooting a film that won't come out for 18 months and then post a comment about said film, are absolutely going to see it when it comes out, all protestations to the contrary. Of course you are. You are going to see the film when it comes out. I don't care what you say now and how much you say you won't and that it's a fail and it looks gay or anything else you can think up to disparage it. The fact is: if you come LOOKING for a story about Spiderman and you read the story and then post about the story, you have an interest in the film. If you don't have an interest and you just come to make fun and say nasty things, then you're a troll and the lowest form of life on a film site. So which is it? You're either one or the other. And don't give me the whole "I love movies and I want my superhero film to have a great story and cast" sure that's all fine and good, but at the end of the day, it's a fucking Spiderman movie. It's a guy who was bitten by a radioactive spider and can now shoot webbing out of his wrists, crawl up walls, swing around town on said webs and wears a spider costume, so lets not confuse this with War and Peace or Hamlet. I love these things too or I wouldn't be here either, but don't try and pretend that unless "this new film is grounded in reality" that youi're not going to see the trailer and then watch it at a matinee at least. That's just foolish to even suggest. And in closing, no, this is not a film that NOBODY wants to see. That film is Rabbit Hole. Great film it may be, but nobody wants to see it and they are proving that by the millions.
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the question is if the whole rebooted franchise with its inevitable numerous sequels, will manage to surpass or at least reach the success and popularity of Raimi's franchise.Me thinks not but maybe i end up being wrong. BTW is this movie going to be 3D? i havent heard anything about it which is a bit strange.
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I'm not saying it doesn't look like the production value is high. I'm sure everyone is working really hard to make this a good film. But it's just not needed. Oh well. Too late now. But I just can't get excited about this. They need to show me something truly great and worthy of the reboot or this is a Netflixer for sure.
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Peter Parker was originally one of Marvel's smarter characters - not Reed Richards level but up there. The genius was hidden beneath the self deprecating cracks and the complicated personal life. NOw one zillion reboots and recons later, I have no idea of where Peter's intellect lies in current Marvel Universe, but it used to be high. Keep in mind, every comic book universe is absolutely teeming with villains and heroes who build extraordinary gadgets and armor and tech for no other reason than to knock over banks or beat up muggers, so bitching that Peter would've marketed his webbing and shooters for commercial gain is unfair and un-fun. If you must be a stick-in-the-mud and need to rationalize his decision - then Peter has the choice between patent-ing and selling his webs and shooters for money, and thus outing himself or keeping them a secret, allowing him to protect NYC and its citizens. he's a hero, so he forgoes monetary gain.
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but I like the organic version better. Since we are already accepting that he got a bunch of other powers from a spider that are impossible and don’t make any sense either, for reasons that other people have pointed out, we might as well accept that he got the ability to shoot webs from his wrists as well. If we go with the mechanical web shooters, which are equally impossible, then we have to accept a separate impossible incident- Parker’s designing and building of magical mechanical web shooters- apart from the spider-bite transformation. I think it’s best to go the simpler route with the organic shooters, thereby minimizing the amount of disbelief that we have to suspend. And having the webs come out of his wrists is simply the least silly-looking option. And yes, I realize that the entire argument is itself very silly indeed.
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...until Peter Parker is 300 lbs/lives in his parents basement/has "cheeto fingers"/types on a semen encrusted keyboard/guzzles Mountain Dew from a 2 liter <p> BUT <p> at the same time has Emma Stone deliver his assignments in a catholic schoolgirl outfit. <p> AND <p> still leaves his fortress of solitude to fight crime. Maybe in some type of Spidey MooMoo. The webshooters should be all organic. <p> Reboot as necessary until this happens. Cast whomever but I guess they have to be appropriately heavy(Jack Black? Seth Rogan?)
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I mean nobody with any taste.
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Yes, because comic book film nerds are revered for their taste in film. Dude, the moment you start talking about taste in the context of a superhero film, you've left the village where rational thought exits. Have fun way up there on your high horse. Try not to fall off.
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Jan. 6, 2011, 2 p.m. CST
Wonder what the costume will look like, big white eyes?
by the Green Gargantua
Hmmmmm. Can't wait for a better Goblin than the power ranger
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Romita was the artist that took over after Ditko set in canon the archetypes roles of the Spider-Man world (except for Mary Jane who was a running gag that Peter always missed or "escaped" from meeting). A note. Ditko and Stan Lee didn't speak to each other for the last two years of Ditko's work on the comic. He plotted and turned in the pages while Lee edited over Ditko's scribbled in dialog along with supplying Lee's trademark words work. Gil Kane and especially Jim Moody drew for many years on the book. I used to think Moody's work was sort of dull until Ross Andru came along (I can not stand how trite the man's art and layouts were; solid as they were but so uninspired). I agree with the emo/Twilight side of the aisle on the argument. This Garfield pic looks so far from the nerdish concept of Parker and Stone is cute but no knock-out as Romita's Gwen Stacy.
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Falling off doesn't hurt as bad. Plus, there are those fans of the Green Lantern trailer there to break my fall, so...
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is one of the funniest things this site ever put in my head.
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The Spider-Man movies have now finished destroying any fond memories I had of Spider-Man and his comics as a child.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv0w5Ho1P1M The only reason organic shooters come from the wrist is because the web shooters shot from the wrist, the transition to organic in the comics was terrible btw, anatomically it makes no sense in comparison to the other powers. I don't mind suspending belief when it comes to technology and mythology but biology is different there are too many obvious consequences. What if Peter has to go on a Gluten Free diet because of allergies and it is a necessary ingredient in creating webs from his wrist? All the webs he was shooting he should have had Popeye forearms not to mention a powerful wrist sphincter to hold back the immense pressure of a web that can shoot to the top of the Empire State Building.
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I thought I'd give it a few days. It's the new year. We got Ann Francis. Where the hell is the Bill Erwin obit? If you don't know the name, you know the face. This great character actor has been in everything. He lived every geeks dream by being in a movie with JCVD. Everyone oohs and aaahs over his appearance on Seinfeld. I never cared for that show or saw the episode. His career peak was starring with Christopher Reeve, Christopher Plummer, and Jane Seymour in Somehwere in Time. That's a movie. Although I guess technically he wasn't in the movie with Plummer and Seymour.
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