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Ethan The Geek chimes in after following AICN 1/3rd of his life!

 

Dear Harry,

An extremely long time reader (1999, back in the days when the first Dungeons & Dragons movie with Lee Arenberg brought me out of the obscure Starlog days of geek magazines to the world of geekery on the interwebs), yet first time writer.

 

Being 35, I have spent close to one third of my life following your site on a daily basis. Literally. Every single day, M-F, and sometimes on weekends I look at your site the same way that folks used to read ‘the paper’ with their morning coffee, back when it was homebrewed and simply black. Every job I have had over the last eleven years has started with each and every morning bringing the electric hum of an internet connection and the quiet clicking of a keyboard directing me to your corner of the geekiverse.

 

This morning, December 29th, 2010, brought me your article (and through it Patton Oswalt’s WIRED article) about the nature and current state of ‘Geek Culture’. This is a subject that has been brewing and percolating in the back of my slimy grey-matter for some time. As a dyed in the wool geek I am of two minds, summed up nicely by both Mr. Oswalt and yourself. I feel compelled to share for some narcissistic reason. 

 

A bit of background.

 

I am firmly pigeon holed in that age group that has spawned the current “Renaissance of Geek”. I was born in 1975. My first movie (I am told) was Star Wars at a Drive-In at the age of 1. It was said that I was a particularly fussy baby especially at night, but that from the first bombastic fanfare of that sci-fi standard, all wriggling and whining came to a complete halt and that my eyes became transfixed on that dusty screen out in the plains on what was then the outskirts of Boulder, Colorado. It was the first inoculation against the world of normal for a budding baby geek.

Much of my youth was spent going to the theatre with my father to see the likes of Indiana Jones, Spock and Kirk, and of course, Han and Chewy take on a myriad of villains from the greatest rogues gallery ever created. My first penny allowances and pocket change saved up from collecting soda cans were spent diving into the half-tone primary colour multiverse of Marvel, DC, Dark Horse, et al. This was a time when there was only one comic book shop in the area and it was locally owned and held secret, by-invitation only auctions for the likes of those that collected The Watchmen & The Tick.

D&D was still black and white between the covers and the dice were cheap plastic with numbers you had to wax in yourself with Crayola. Mr. Baker was the only Doctor I knew and ET was not yet saccharine but awe inspiring.

 

Adolescence brought about the discovery of music and underground alternative and punk. Back when the Chilli Peppers were still playing at skate shows before the socks. When D.R.I. and Anthrax were still in jeans and black leather and all the Ramones were alive. Back before Tony Hawk was even out of the nest and skate punks communicated through underground ‘Zines made on Xerox machines in the local library. When your faded jeans with the hole in the knees started life as brand new deep blue denim and the wear they now showed was truly earned. When the punk clothes were all homemade with secret time honoured traditions passed down from older punk brothers and the local Army Surplus was home. When ‘The Decline of Western Civilization’ & ‘Suburbia’ were like secret tomes only the initiated were privy to.

 

This is the outcast ‘subculture’ world that Mr. Ostwalt is referring to. Where your passions were cultivated over long periods of time and often handed down in tribal fashion, by word of mouth (actually face to face) by older and wiser misfits. We had no idea that there were millions of us stretched across this great country of ours because the world largely ended outside of our own little communities. There was no instant access to likeminded subhumans because in our own isolated spheres of influence and experience, we were the C.H.U.D.! The Baseball Furies! The subjects of the Great Humungus! These were badges won by effort, blood, sweat, and tears! We were Old Time Hockey and we were puttin’ on the foil for real.

 

And we dreamed.

 

We dreamed of seeing our own secret space battles and superheroes and monsters come to life. We wanted all of those late night basement conversations of “Who would win in a fight...” to come to life. Some of us got ambitious and told our parental units that we were going to make a living ‘creating games’, ‘making monsters’, ‘writing about space’, and ‘making that clunky box with the itty bitty screen and great big keyboard bring worlds to life’. We were told ‘There’s no money or security in that son!’ but we pressed on, fighting against the stream.

And here we are today.

 

Adults, with mortgages, taxes, family units of our own, in crushing debt, trying to make ends meet and yet still dreaming those dreams of old. No longer the outcasts but the modern day movers and shakers. Many of our dreams realized. Many of them our daily grind now. The world stopped, turned to look at us, and said ‘Hey, that’s actually kind of cool! Show me more.’

On the one hand it’s great to be empowered! It’s great to know you are not alone! It’s great that we are teaching our own young our ways and that they can share it with others in a way that was never possible for us in our own golden young days. In this respect Harry I agree with you. We are at the Zenith of Geekdom.

 

I think back to a very pivotal experience for me. Having moved from Colorado for a time to Portland Oregon I was fortunate enough to participate in the Portland Creative Conference in 1992 as  a teenager in High school.  My girlfriend at the time and I had the opportunity to meet Joe Dante face to face, just the three of us! To me it was huge. I asked Mr. Dante if he thought that the past surge of Sci/Fi and Fantasy type of cinema that had been so popular and gone recently quiet would ever come back again. He looked at me with cynical eyes and said no, that it was past and the world was not interested in the imagined anymore and that he doubted if it would ever return. Yet here we are today. It is sublime.

 

And yet.

 

I catch myself seeing kids 13-15 wearing Ramones and Misfits t-shirts bought at Wal-Mart and think ‘I would bet money that you can’t name all of the original Ramones much less know who Danzig even is.’ I see Hot Topics dotting the landscape and Think Geek sites all over the web and I get sad. Accessibility is great but it’s also all too easy. When soccer moms are sporting tramp stamps, and CEO’s are listening to Hardcore I cannot help but hang my head and sigh.

 

This is the reason I believe Mr. Ostwalt, comedic or not, feels the way he does. We earned it. We have the social scars to prove it. We had to make it, create it, and wear it like a badge by ourselves. We couldn’t just hop on down to the local MegaMart and buy it en masse, all slick glossy, streamlined and new. We owned it. It was ours. It was raw, gritty, homemade, and only available to a select few mutants. Lord save me from an easy life!

 

So I too great this brave new world of golden geek culture with an open mind and open arms Harry, but let us never forget where we came from and why.

 

Like the old ad said, we were the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The trouble-makers. The round pegs in the square holes.

 

Ethan The Geek

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  • Dec. 29, 2010, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Geeks aren't half long-winded

    by seppukudkurosawa

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Who is this Mr. Ostwalt?

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    And what the fuck are The Watchmen?

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Well said!

    by Pitofbenders

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    The Geek shall inherit the Earth

    by UGG

    And then no one will ever get laid again

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Hey, I was born in 1959

    by Ghost_Wheel

    Can I still be a geek?

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 7:31 p.m. CST

    I haven't a clue what all this geek furore is about

    by UGG

    But I'd just like to say, I hate the fucker's who snatch up all the hard to get must have toy's just to NOT play with them. Just to keep. In a box. To Own. Never to be used for the purpose it was intended.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Well put cool ethan

    by Superturd

    I agree, as a younger geek (22) that things were quite different in my youth. Collecting was near-impossible, and your movie selection was limited to tv and what was stocked locally. It meant more to be a geek in terms of exclusivity and knowledge. But us kids, in our small town without cars or cable, we dreamed too. We dreamed of a day where it took nothing but sheer willpower to be a geek. Where it became A matter of taste, not exposure, that determined your interests and leanings. Where it would be just as easy to watch the 94 Corman FF4 as it was to watch the latest batman picture. And slowly, through hi-speed Internet, Netflix, YouTube, and, let's face it, bit torrent, the wannabe geeks without the social or monetary resources to cultivate their interests had a chance to join in on the conversation. Seth rogen keeps mentioning how surprised he is that dead pool is a household name. I am not surprised. I am relieved that the pretension and exclusivity has been removed from geekdom. And it never stopped being cool to wear out your jeans.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST

    This is always the problem of winning a war

    by seppukudkurosawa

    You expend all this effort trying to convert the world to your way of thinking, and then when they finally start to come around, you bemoan their dilettantishness. Just be thankful that your fetishes no longer have you labeled as a strange subspecies of slug that lurks in damp basements. Today's kids are showing up their parents the world over with their internet-schooling. There are side-effects from being so internet savvy- computers are ultimately a fruit which does not nourish- but culturally speaking, they're way ahead of most of us on this site. Be grateful that the odds of being presented with an empty look next time you drop a movie quote are getting lower and lower with every passing year. The "kids these days" philosophy has been with us since the beginning of time. I think I remember reading it in Caesar's memoirs. It's basically people directing their pent-up angst at the fact they're aging towards da kidz. You won the war... Stop the nostalgic navalgazing and join the after-party!

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Happy New Year to you, too, telemarketer.

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    You are dishing out some grade-A weaponized CHOPPING up in this piece.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    I've come to this site every day since 1999 as well

    by BadMrWonka

    and as much as I love movies, I've never really considering myself a geek. I've never read a comic book, I've never played D&D. I like sci-fi books, but not obsessively. I know I'm not the typical AICN reader (and by that I mean, LONG TIME reader...the new breed of whiners here are just white noise to me), I mean, I was turned on to the site by a guy with the same tattoo as Boba Fett...or rather, the tattoo that he fictionally has. So I get it, there are varying levels of geekdom. but it's interesting that Patton sees it as such a binary. like he and his friends were on one side of the road and everyone else was on the other. was it really like that? was there no normal kid out there that played baseball, had sex before he was 18, and yet played D&D? was it all or nothing back then? I don't know. I think that people will always find avenues for obsession. it may have been a bit more of an effort in the past to be a huge geek than it is now, but it ain't like geeks are dying out. the world will evolve right around the most hardcore geeks out there. hell, it mostly has, hasn't it? I love Patton, but I disagree that someone obsessing over Top Model or trashy reality TV is even in the same solar system as being a real geek. being obsessed with a TV show is fun. it's endearing. my friends know that to get a rise out of me, all they have to do is badmouth The West Wing, because that was my TV obsession for a long time. and yeah, I debated people online, joined forums and all that. but it was just a diversion. it would never actually impact other areas of my life except in benign ways (I once killed a hobo because he looked like John Goodman). yet I have friends whose obsessions with comics or other geek interests are ALL ENCOMPASSING. those obsessed with American Idol (at lest those over the age of 15) know that it's just a TV show, and that's it. the hardcorest of hardcore Trekkies might outwardly say it's just a show, but of course, they don't really believe that, do they? Patton is right that it's becoming easier to be a geek, and maybe the word is losing its meaning (of course, it originally meant the circus freak who bit the heads off of chickens, so I guess it already has), but it's getting easier to do EVERYTHING now. geekdom is just getting swept along with the current. I've taught writing in the past, and I always told students, "The more e-mail and texting and spellcheck take over, the more value you will have if you can actually write and spell coherently. It will become a rare commodity that employers and universities will look for and appreciate." so maybe as it becomes easier to be a "Diet Geek", being a real geek will start to mean all that much more. or maybe eventually all we'll have left is Neil Cumpston's reviews to remind us that the Jedi...er...geeks once ruled the galaxy.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST

    The geekdom of old is the new trend...

    by alienindisguise

    and popular trends die hard. Everything becomes the same..every comic movie follows the exact same beats..it's all become what it could never have in the early days. It's become boring.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 8:32 p.m. CST

    It's Chewie, not Chewy

    by mr teaspoon

    Zero cred.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Wonderful piece, Ethan

    by Ben Harrison

    Very well put.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 8:45 p.m. CST

    I guess since I'm only in my 20's

    by pushthebuttonmax

    I'm supposed to feel inadequate and undeserving next to the "geeks of yore." With that said, this is an example of good writing. Y'all should just hire this guy or something.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 8:46 p.m. CST

    the telemarketer

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    No. Never post sober. It's not worth. Unleash the rage. See the world the warped prism of alcohol. Oh, and everyone should check out stupidfatginger's comment in the original Patton Oswalt talkback before it's deleted. Wow. That was some CHOPPING there, too.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST

    I love this guy. Testify, my brother.

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    I can really relate to Ethan, and I remember the day I discovered the Ramones and lightening hit me. "This is what I've been looking for!" Then there was the Clash, the Misfits (and I saw Danzig live last month) and the days when MTV actually played music videos. There's something special to me about the time between the mid 1970s and the early 80s, and not just about the culture of the time (I'm a Marvel Bronze Age kid) but the fact that we also accessed the culture of our past. I was always interested in tracing anything I loved back to its roots. Punk rock got me interested in the roots of rock music and modern sci-fi and horror got me interested in the classic, silent era and its literary roots. There was a time when I was the weird kid; the kid that didn't like or do well in sports, the kid that didn't want to talk about cars or football players statistics. It was harder to be a geek. Geek is mainstream today. Every blockbuster movie is a geek movie. We've won. The Geek generation 2.0 seems less interested in looking back because they don't need to. They're already bombared with too much product and information, so they certainly don't need to go looking for anything, but the smartest kids will always have that quality of curiosity. Jim Jarmusch once said, "The real shit is in the margins." In the margins is where the next generation will find what they're needing, but they'll have to be willing to look for it.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 9:14 p.m. CST

    how does anyone who had the net for 1/3 of his life

    by john

    feel like he took any lumps? fucker grew up with built in community

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    DRI

    by Noddy93

    dude... i'm 41 and from Texas and I'm barely old enough to remember DRI as a punk band (as a youngster I jumped a fence or scaled a wall [god bless liberty lunch] to see them live a few times before the metal... gotta love when Mickey Offender [rip] signed up to play bass)... so I gotta call bullshit on much of your post.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 10:03 p.m. CST

    I've been following this site since I was 15 and I'm 26 now

    by _Venkman

    And all this Geek bullshit has to be some of the lamest shit I've read on here... Where's the cool movie news??? *Has a beer and cheets on his wife while Harry eats out Blade.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Word of mouth = geek credibility`

    by Tigger Tales

    Which I have very little of.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Is AICN going offline?

    by ROBRAM89

    Between the state of the site itself and the wistful paeans to nerddom in lieu of content, I'm becoming convinced AICN is in its last days, and deliberately so.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Old geeks are screwy

    by Robusto

    I'm 34 and I've been coming here since 99 as well. Before that I was going to corona bc. Before that it was the back pages of Starlog. I've listened to the poser bands of old as well. My opinion is the only thing sadder than old queer is an old geek. I cringe when i see anyone over 30 trying to stay hip. I say Fu k Star wars, Indiana Jonez, and all the 80s stuff we treat with infalable nostalgia. Its so tired and old trying to chase those lost dreams. I want the old geeks to get the hell out of the way. I want target and corporate america to move away from our childhood memories as hipster crap. Fuck we did the same thing with 60s and 70s stuff as well. I want to see the next generation take over and push us out of the way. It's all getting old.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 10:34 p.m. CST

    I've been reading this site half of my life

    by D.Vader

    Thats more than a third. Can I have a column too? Seriously though,'posting this really confuses the audience as to your position, Harry.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Anyone remember Xiphos?

    by D.Vader

    He wrote a great piece eulogizing AICN since this place is obviously going through it's death throes. Been here since 1996 and it's never been so depressing around here as it is now.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 11:05 p.m. CST

    HearHear!!

    by killianx

    Well put! I would add to this conversation that there are new frontiers to explore that has not been taken over yet by the Mass marketers. I feel LARP is one of them.

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 11:10 p.m. CST

    This place is starting to feel more like a message board

    by _Venkman

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 11:17 p.m. CST

    This is gayer than AIDS

    by ndally

    Ya. I went there

  • Dec. 29, 2010, 11:36 p.m. CST

    There is no such thing as a "scoop" in 2010

    by ROBRAM89

    News hits and it's everywhere so quickly that the source disappears. News is an enterprise of the cloud now. Discrete sources no longer exist. Word-of-mouth is so powerful it has replaced mass media. This site's death is just the first sign. News sites no longer exist to report news. Everybody knows the news already. They're outlets for discussing it. AICN is a message board for bitching about the news, not hearing it first. But so is every site. They just don't know it yet.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 12:01 a.m. CST

    Simple math eludes..

    by FracturedLojak

    Star Wars was released May 1977. Your math is wrong, or you've got a typo.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Even if there aren't too many scoops anymore...

    by _Venkman

    At least keep up with the movie news. It seems like the site is slowing down more and more

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 12:29 a.m. CST

    AVOID THIS SITE

    by NickKicksAssTomorrow

    ...so this site doesn't do movie news anymore or what?

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 1:12 a.m. CST

    FUCK OFF NICK

    by frank cotton

    been here since 1998, and i saw EARTHQUAKE in freakin' SENSURROUND. my first computer was a TEXAS INSTRUMENTS TI99A. my first concert was KISS, on the DESTROYER tour, and the tickets were $6.00. i was going somewhere with this, but i seem to have forgotten where...

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 5:50 a.m. CST

    As a fortysomething Rocker/Metalhead

    by BiggusDickus

    I can assure you that the kids today can't even name the members of their own favourite bands, let alone any of the Misfits. In fact, were it not for the fact that the iconic Ramones t-shirt has 'Johnny, Joey, Dee-Dee & Tommy' printed on it, I doubt they could even name them. Try this - next time you see a twentysomething in a Ramones t-shirt, ask them to name one - just one - Ramones song. If they can't, punch them in the face and steal their top. 'Spirit of '76' and all that...

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 6:18 a.m. CST

    If we're doing oneupsmanship...

    by DrMeyer

    Then I've been here pretty much since the site went active. I was reading sf/fantasy at age five, saw Star Wars on opening night at the Memphian on a big screen, and my first concert... that I actually paid to get into... was Quicksilver Messenger Service at Ellis Auditorium. My first computer, Gods help me, was a modified C64. I'm 53, and I've grown beyond some of those things. But I agree with Patton and Ethan; I bristle with ill-concealed rage at the kids I see running around in Von Dutch jackets and neo-hippie styles, because they didn't earn the right to wear it. Yes, I've turned into my uncle. Grumpy, cranky, bitching about Kids These Days That Just Don't Get It. Last thing I wanted, because I remember striving to understand what drove the man when he was my age. Maybe what we need to do is teach, and not bitch. After all, a lot of kids are rediscovering Glen Miller and Duke Ellington as well as The Kinks and The Amboy Dukes, so there's hope for the future yet.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 6:32 a.m. CST

    News, cool news, where art thou?

    by CaseyMcCall

    I can do my own life story as well, but who cares? And indeed, shortening Chewbacca to Chewy (It's Chewie!) results in an immediate revoke of geek status. And onto the news now!

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 7:49 a.m. CST

    O Brother, Where Art Thou?

    by Larry Knowles

    Harry...a plead from your brother, Larry. I realize that we have been estranged for most of our adult life and that you publicly don't recognize my existence. But, now, to turn your back on this site that you've dedicated years of your life to...? Your family is worried about you, Harry. I am worried about you, brother. If you don't want to connect with me, at least consider salvaging this site...it's not completely beyond repair. A breaking story or a movie review once a week might be just enough to stop the bleeding and encourage a few departing fans to keep you in their 'favorites'. Please, brother, don't throw this site away. I love you. Larry

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Purplest Prose EVER

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 8:38 a.m. CST

    I don't even know what to say anymore

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    I can't claim to be here as long as some of you distinguished veterans - 8 years of reading for me. <p> But there really is something incredibly hollow about whatever it is that this site is at this point. Maybe it's the general lack of news around the winter holidays, maybe it's the fact that most if not all of the staff has families that they want to spend time with now - who knows. </p> <p> All I know though is there is this bizarre lack of passion that you can feel in every article, every word, every "giggle." </p> <p> For the last 8 years this site has been the first site I visited the second I got onto the net. What's the point of the "News" if there is no news? I understand that it's harder if not impossible to get scoops anymore, I know there's no more Elston Gunn to summarize the less generally geeky stuff that goes on during the week, but come on guys. </p> <p> Again, maybe it's the general malaise I'm feeling in my life. Maybe my disenchantment with the world in general is bleeding into my aicn-view. </p> <p> I don't know people. I just don't know. </p>

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 8:46 a.m. CST

    I have a feeling this site is dying

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    I can't put my finger on it. It just seems like with the colossal clusterfuck the "redesign" of the site was, the dearth of news and how annoying it is to post on the Talkback now we're seeing the beginning of the end. I'm sure the site will limp along for a while but it just seems empty now. Does anyone else get this feeling?

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Hey Klytus!

    by D.Vader

    And yes, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    They say TV shows always last one season longer than they should. This site kinda feels like that. Like the petering out last season of a formerly good show. Kinda meandering like that.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Well, atleast he gave a slight shout-out to the Ramones.

    by Stalkeye

    And Punk (too) was my preferred tastes in music while growning up.(Loved bands like Misfits, The Damned, TSOL and Samhain just to name a few.) Nowadays, people are listening to drivel such as Katie Perry and Justin Bieber.WTF, has America become a nation of pussies? Nice letter BTW.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Who gives a fuck?

    by kubricksnutsack

    I mean, really? This is getting rather stupid really quickly...

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Well, I Was Born In 1963...

    by Rebeck2

    So, you can imagine my amusement at hearing this guy take pride in being an old-school geek. You were born in 1975? I lost my fuckin' virginity in '75. I saw JAWS the day it was released and four more times in the theatre that summer. (At the old Cooper in Denver, not that far from your infant ass) Two years later, I saw STAR WARS it's opening day at the same theatre (not even half full of people, despite the exaggerated mythology of SW fans today - it took a week for that movie to gather the buzz). It doesn't matter when anyone was born, except in the way the movies of their childhood sets up a certain standard of quality. I grew up in the 70's when movies were truly epic (PATTON, GODFATHER, FRENCH CONNECTION, EXORCIST, CUCKOO'S NEST, DOG DAY AFTERNOON, the list literally goes on and on, films that are classics today) and you grew up thinking THE GOONIES was a classic! That's the difference. Even this reverence for Dante - except for the kitchen sequence, GREMLINS is some stupid-ass shit. I'm sorry. BACK TO THE FUTURE - lame. But your generation thinks these are the height of filmmaking. I feel sorry for you 80's guys. Hell, kids who grew up in the 90's (with a full DVD catologue to choose from) and the 00's grew up in a better time for movies than you poor 80's fucks. You can't hear me, but I'm laughing like an evil villain.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Biggus

    by Stalkeye

    Yeah, there seem to be a lot of posers who wear Punk Band Tees (Such as The Ramones and especially The 'fits.) because they think it's the "cool" thing to wear. Kinda like turning Skulls and Crossbones into a fashion trend for Ambercombie and Fitch. According to an article in some Newspaper, Danzig feels that 80 percent of people who wear the iconic misfits shirts are into his band and the other 20 percent have no idea who the fits are. He also mentioned that he doesn't care who wears the shirts. Nice guy, or the fact that alot of people are buying the shirts mean "Cha-Ching"? LMAO

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 9:33 a.m. CST

    I agree, D.Vader deserves a column if not a..

    by Stalkeye

    ..black box especially since AICN fucked him over with a banning that was uncalled for. people on these boards have said far worse (And I'm talking about Racist comments too.)and yet, nothing became of it. Anyways D for what it's worth, welcome back.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Oh yeah

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    Welcome back D. Vader!

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Harry, let Quint have the site.

    by ROBRAM89

    He's not exactly "the next generation" but he knows what the hell he's doing.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Round pegs FIT in square holes, with a little wiggle room.

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    Its the square pegs that don't fit in the round holes. Was that geeky enough of a correction?

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    AICN 1996-Whenever Drew Mcweeny Left

    by ndally

    It's seems the only geek site breaking news is hitfix all the other sites are your deadline.com or variety or latimes not geek sites but general industry news. I swear nikki finke has got a picture of all the major Hollywood exec's getting a blowjob from a hooker while doing a line of coke off their IPADs. Her site has more scoops per day than a box of Rasin Bran

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 10:20 a.m. CST

    I just typed up a long heartfelt post about talkback...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...how great it used to be, etc... Then I figured "what's the use?" and deleted it. I think hitting DELETE pretty much sums it up.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST

    rebeck 2 - I was born in '57 and also was raised on TRUE classics

    by openthepodbaydoorshal

    (gotta add Dirty Harry and Deliverance, to your list, oh and MASH and 2001 on an actual Cinerama screen..you get the idea), and was raised along with Mad Magazine, Famous Monsters, Creepy and Eerie mags, Outer Limits and Twilight Zone...but I appreciate the fellow geek filmmakers like Dante and Zemeckis, who like Spielberg and Lucas grew up with the same influences as we did. Dante filling the nooks and crannies of the frame with '50s and '60s genre artifacts, casting the original Snatchers man Kevin McCarty and Patty Duke's dad William Schallert in just about everything, etc. I'm so grateful, even proud I grew up when I did, and don't begrudge or look down at what some view as "classics".

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 10:34 a.m. CST

    I just typed a long post to flickapoo...

    by Rebeck2

    Trying to convince him that the talkback isn't dying and how brilliant his sophisticated AICN name is, but...fuck it, I deleted it.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 10:43 a.m. CST

    ...that wasn't half bad, rebeck2...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...you just warmed my cockles.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 10:58 a.m. CST

    And all good things must come to an end

    by Wilford_Brimleys_Diabetes_Rage

    Let's face it geeks..AICN is has been in it's death throes since Harry sold his soul to Hollywood Moriarty left this site for more fertile ground, Beaks went on his power trip..and instead of "cool news" we get chinese spammers selling sweatshop shoes...so as this site sinks slowly into decay and obscurity (along with the rest of geek culture) lets all remember the good times..when this site got breaking news first and on the day this site goes down for good ill buy every talkbacker a round of beers at the Alamo Bar in San Antonio so we can have one last awesome goodbye.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Heheh. You said "cockles."

    by THE_CHOPPAH

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST

    wilford_brimleys_diabetes_rage

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    So it wasn't the Thing that got him, eh? Few talkback handles have made me laugh as hard as this one.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST

    What happened to cool news??

    by JiggahJu

    This site is staggering to it's death bed. If more time was spent in reporting actual news, and less time creating poorly conceived animation banners, then this site might actually get off of life support.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    You a college boy? I bet you think you're

    by UltraTron

    pretty smart. You think you could outsmart a bullet? I'm talkin to you!

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST

    That animation is so fucking gross

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST

    CHEWIE, NOT CHEWY

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST

    HAND IN YOUR GEEK CARD, YOU FUCKING POSEUR

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST

    WHO THE FUCK IS "MR. OSTWALT"?

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST

    robram89 IS RIGHT. WE NEED SCOOPS FROM FUCKING PREPROD SOURCES

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST

    IN DEPTH SCRIPT REVIEWS. PREPRODUCTION ARTWORK LEAKS

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST

    REMEMBER WHEN WE HEARD THE JAR JAR AUDIO FILE POSTED HERE

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST

    THE GODDAMN INTERNET SPLIT IN HALF THAT DAY

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST

    THE PRE-EPISODE 1 RUMOR STUFF WAS WHAT BUILT THIS JOINT

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST

    "ANAKIN IS A SLAVE?" WHAT...THE...FUCK. THOSE WERE GREAT MOMENTS

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Good Call, Hal

    by Rebeck2

    Those titles are just what I'm talking about, and you and I could probably sit here all day and trade titles back and forth from that period - it really was a "golden era" and the bench was truly deep. Of course, we had our crap as well, the disaster movies being a prime example, but the overall quality of movies MADE FOR ADULTS was so much higher. The early 80's had some good stuff, but as the decade went on it got weaker and weaker, or from "popcorn" to stale burnt popcorn. I'm not kidding about THE GOONIES, kids from that era really think it's a good movie - it boggles the mind. I understand that Dante and Zemeckis were carrying on a tradition and I have enjoyed their work at times, but neither one has made a movie that, IMO, has worked all the way through. ROMANCING THE STONE and INNERSPACE come the closest for me. (And I'd actually take the underrated EXPLORERS over GREMLINS) I just feel the standard has been getting lower and lower ever since. Jesus, this was a bad year for film. Just pathetic. And by extension, it means the "geeks" are far from fine dining now, they are generally eating out of a dumpster.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST

    New name for the site...

    by kubricksnutsack

    aintitcoolnavelgazing.com And the animation seems suitable - it is our esteemed leader disappearing up his own arsehole.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Been reading this site for 1/3 of my life

    by Larry Sellers

    and Jesus Christ this thing has gotten WAAAYYY out of proportion. Is this identity so sacred? Fuck what the mainstream does. Do what you want and feel good about it. The "death" of the geek identity? Bullshit.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST

    That animation is goddamn awful.

    by Stalkeye

    Harry, your tastes is in your ass.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 3:14 p.m. CST

    You Miss Brother Oswald's Point

    by Buckrogersbarker

    A lot of it is out of our hands now. A lot of it has gone mainstream. But with the mainstream, they have taken on our fandoms while retaining a normal active lifestyle. Have you seen all of the women at things like Dragon*con and Comicon? Have you noticed that there are gamer groups just for women and many of them are REALLY attractive? I know several families that make movie quality Star Wars Clone and Stormtrooper armor and get their kids involved.... and they also have normal lives, they get out, they are good looking...and they are professionals. They live active lifestyles and they marathon seasons of all kinds of television series. They recall arcane information, except they can absorb and retrieve it faster with the use of things like the Internet. They don't have to miss out on an obscure piece of memorabilia. They can get it on the internet... or have it commissioned to be made. It is not the same anymore. I say "I am glad you people are here!". Because a lot of them are like Robert and Mark in the movie Free Enterprise. They are geeks with lives, not geeks living in the basement as is often the stereo type. But a lot of geeks in the basement are pissed off by the new comers. Remember the music video made by Seth Green's wife Clare Grant and Team Unicorn about the Geek Girls? I saw a deep division between geeks as some raged for weeks about these new comers to their hobbies. There are some that wear the social awkwardness as a badge of pride much like Belle in Twilight celebrated her brokenness. Things are shifting. Things are changing. New people are coming into the mix and they are adopting some things and chucking others. Things are not going to be the same again. Pick your head up and look around. Step out of your circle. It is there to be seen if you look around.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 3:19 p.m. CST

    "Geek" articles

    by tumtwat

    I believe the dearth of news and the bizarre run of geekness-related articles are the death rattle of AICN. A moment of silence please.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST

    I remember the rumor that Jabba would be killing Jedi

    by D.Vader

    Based on something he said in the ROTJ novelization. Heh heh, how ridiculous. And yes, the Jar Jar audio. I STILL can't understand what he's saying in the previous scene about being clumsy.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST

    And hey Stalkeye!

    by D.Vader

    Thanks for the welcome back (you too Klytus). Good to see you both, here at the End of All Things.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST

    you guys are old so so very old

    by 1997-2011

    i was born in late 80s, never called myself a geek others did. and you know what? I'm only a geek because everyone else is dumb. Not my fault the majority of the world is dumb. doesnt make me a geek, just makes me not dumb. and you old people are the only reason AICN still exists, AICN as we all know doesnt attract any new generation. it will end when you all die of old age or STDs you collected in the 70s.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 5:04 p.m. CST

    this site

    by emeraldboy

    died the day harry knowles announced that he was taking over the website famous monsters. there is nothing left in this site. it is dying a gradually slow death ever harry announced he was taking over famous monsters.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 5:20 p.m. CST

    What is this article about? Sounds like something Harry wrote up.

    by mistergreen

    Oh, this site died years ago. People show up still out of habit and read the funny, retarded, racist comments.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 5:38 p.m. CST

    nerdom

    by Longbottom

    I always thought nerdom was either about the joy that one found being in solace with what they loved or being in small groups/ niches with those who shared said enthusiasm. When did being a nerd become showing one's scars (ie this original post) or being a part of the "geek awakening" and submersing one's self into geek culture as opposed to being on the outside looking in (as Patton see's it). I personally love the fact that technology has allowed us to see all aspects of geek culture...though I do personally despise the boba fett sweat shirts that tools wear to the gym.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST

    For A Dying Site...

    by Rebeck2

    There are sure a lot of whiney fuckers here to comment on it. What a bunch of fucking douchebags - go start on your own site, assholes. Or just don't come here anymore. You won't be missing anything, right? So go! Should we tell you how cool you all are before you all leave. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 6:08 p.m. CST

    actually this site should be converted into a forum

    by 1997-2011

    this is not a news site. Deadline and others got all the news, here its a dead blog with no activity. and you cant even trust their reviews because they either do favors or sleep through the movie. this is a shit site and the new makeover is terrible and made the site slower.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 6:16 p.m. CST

    I used to come to this site in 1999 too!

    by mr_macphisto

    They had movie news back then!

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Hat's off to brother Xiphos for telling the shit as it is.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    OBITUARY AIN’T IT COOL NEWS <p> I got turned onto AICN sometime in early December of 1996 by my lab partner in physics class. (Thanks Marco, if you read this somehow, you were a great lab partner and thanks again for all the math help brah. Having a math major as a lab partner was a blessing.) When I first started reading AICN it was still a newsgroup listing before the first website with the King Kong background. I didn’t have a lot of time to do much with AICN in those days. I would scan it at the library while doing research or writing papers. It was an interesting diversion with some truly odd but interesting people that liked to talk about movies in development or being filmed. I didn’t participate much, just lurked for the most part. <p> Flash forward a few years and I find myself in the Marines after spending the three most miserable years of my life (including the blown up years) as a POW at a major American university. I’m on an assault ship doing my first and only float. The boat I was on was among the first computer labs the Navy opened with access to the fledgling internet aboard it. Added bonus, there was a hot Navy IT female sailor (hot for being in the Navy and for us being at sea. Completely average on Terra Firma) that worked there so of course everybody became interested in “learning” about this newfangled Internet business. We were wandering around the Orient and due to one of my jobs I ended up coming off my duty shift a lot on the late watch. That worked out to around midday in Austin, Texas so I began participating in the free-for-all that was the fun and interesting AICN of those days. I cut my teeth in the X Men wars of the late 90′s. Those were some brutal TBs. It got so bad I would get emailed death threats over posts. Good times. Those years were fun on AICN. Total wackos but mostly cool wackos that could write and defend their positions. It was a politics free zone which was nice and it was a goofy community of likable goobers. Then September 11th happened and I mostly checked out of AICN until I found myself hospitalized with a shit load of free time to fill up so back to AICN I went in early ’07. I would like to thank AICN for being there to fill up a lot of dark days and nights. <p> For most of ’07 I just abused anybody and everybody and trolled like a motherfucker and got banned repeatedly. It was fun and I had a good time and I needed it. It kept me entertained while the croakers were cutting on me and I was enduring the rehab. Jump forward to late September of 2007. I was going through another round of surgery and was back in the hospital. Two things happened then. First, the show Journeyman debuted and I started hanging in that TB. Secondly, I noticed another dude hung out in Journeyman and at most of the other TBs I visited. That dude was the bastard of the Internets, Just Pillow Talk (not really, actually Pillow is probably the nicest person ever to inhabit the Internet.) I got to talking to him instead of attacking. From there it seemed like Kloipy and Abominable Snowcone showed up since we were all posting in the same places at the same time. Then there were Jarv, DocP and Orcus, we were all posting in the same TBs and talking more and more directly. I think it was when that asshat ZachBraff started being a double douche where we sort of became a “group”. From that asshole, the infamous March of ’08 TB happened where the Church of Chang was born. It all began innocently enough in a dead end TB discussing Tremors and who was more cool, Burt “The Stache “ Gummer or Fred “Gorilla Arms” Ward. <p> From there things picked up steam. Marva, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang(Both MIA) and D.Vader started to join in. So did Toad Killer Dog, TomBodet/Tom Bando, Danny and Jonah. I deployed to Africa and was away from the Internet for a while and that’s when The Twitch TB started. That brought together Therewolf, ContinentalOp, Morbius, Menstrual Blitz, Droid, Franklin T. Marmoset Esq and disappearance artist, Spud McSpud, Col. Tigh_Fighter(one of the more clever handles ever at AICN), Zeddemore whatever Lord Bronco’s name was on AICN (sorry man, I don’t remember exactly what it was) Milf Lover, Fred’s_Balls_in_ A_Mason_Jar (sadly MIA) and StuntCock_Mike. Barfy and RedFishBlueFish mostly lurked but participated some (I knew them from the Lost TB). The Twitch TB was the foundation that has become Werewolves on the Moon. <p> So why did I go through a very Harry Knowlsian like opening ramble in order to talk about the death of AICN? Well I suppose it was because I wanted to get my bona fides concerning my time at AICN on the record when I call the time of death for AICN. Also I wanted to review some history because its the end of the year and that’s what people do at the end of the year, take stock. Plus this is about AICN so I went with the rambling personal intro instead of some sick juvenile extended sexual metaphor. You should be happy I went the rambling route instead of the other way. It is Christmas day and all. <p> As we all know, AICN has been circling the bowl hard for at least the last year or so. Not a lot of updates, pipe job reviews for studios or directors, contributors moving on to other venues, an influx of unfunny and uninteresting talk backers with agendas or a level of stupid arrogance and a complete lack of command of the basics of English, although going from goat speak to English is difficult and hard to learn. The death of the Twitch TB is due to nothing more then neglect on the part of the site’s administrators. All this made AICN stink like corrupting flesh left rotting in the hot sun. <p> Even though AICN was both sucking and blowing and losing readership and hits everyday, it still managed to be at least somewhat entertaining as an occasional diversion. But on 3 December 2010, AICN began spiraling down towards the sweet embrace of death. At first it just seemed like its early 2000 level of software was finally breaking down, which really wasn’t a surprise, but it was no big deal. Websites have performance issues once in awhile, its the nature of the beast. Around the 7th the computer folk realized they were under attack and user info could have been compromised. <p> Instead of telling anybody anything, Harry and his band of miscreants decided to press into service early new software they had been building in order to blunt the hacker attack. (I don’t believe they were building new software but at this point who cares?) This plan was an unmitigated disaster on many fronts. You couldn’t log on, you couldn’t read anything, TBs were out of place and out of order, AICN looked like complete jerks and didn’t tell anybody anything about what was going on until 16 December. It might have been cool to let people know their personal info, if you were dumb enough to use your personal info, was compromised. It would also have been prudent to let the talk backers know what’s going on because in the three weeks since the attacks began, it looks like almost all old line regulars left and the bulk of the usual TBers have fled AICN at least temporarily. The numbers on Talk Backs, the only reason left to visit AICN, are dismal. The post about what happened hasn’t as yet even broke 500 posts. Think about that. Less than 500 people have commented about the “new” AICN. Hell a year ago that TB would have probably hit 5000 by now 9 days later. Other talk backs about what should be important subjects to nerds barely register any posts. <p> I am going to call the time of death of AICN. It was on 16 December 2010 at 1411 hours when Hairy finally got around to telling people what was going on. Nice job fat boy, you managed to kill your golden goose through stupidity and laziness even though stupidity, ego and laziness were already slowly throttling AICN. <p> It’s not that anybody really cares about AICN anymore. I just thought I would write up an obituary for it since it was once a somewhat well liked website and it has a certain amount of sentential value for me. <p> RIP AICN 1996-2010. It was a decent run for 12 of it’s 14 years but the race is over now and the spirit of what AICN once was is a bloated mouldering corpse. The memory of the good times might last a bit. <p> Merry Crunkmas y’all, gots to keep it real and crunking into 2011. <p> Xiphos UPDATE 1630hrs 25 December: I took a look at Fat Town and Harry’s update article has finally crossed the 500 post mark. It only TOOK 9 days. Game over man. <p> UPDATE 2: 2011hrs 27 December. Throw Hawaiian Organ Doner into the Twitch list above. Sorry man if you read this.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST

    yea boy

    by Marisol

    I hate TRON 2. It was shit shit shit. Fucking blue coiled shit. BEST PARTS OF THE MOVIE. The beginning when the title TRON came up. The second best part was when he rode off on his motor bike. I don't know what happened in the middle. I lost concentration after the scenes with the white haired pervert. HAN SOLO SHOT TRON BEFORE HE COULD KILL THE MAIN CHARACTER. I was drunk and high and tron still bored me. That never happens with movies. I don't know how anyone could give this a good review. Nobody under 16 should enjoy this movie. Its a kids movie. A kids movie that should only be for kids and younger teens. FALSE ADVERTISEMENT on the TRON commercials and trailor. FUCK YOU DISNEY, ALTHOUGH I STILL LOVE YOU AND WILL DEFINITLY SEE PIRATES 4, even though that trailer looked AWFUL.

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 7:19 p.m. CST

    guy above me is super high

    by 1997-2011

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 10:12 p.m. CST

    judas h priest

    by frank cotton

    i suppose all you assholes would have just said 'fuck it', and rolled LINDSEY into the water? hope i never need any of you watchin' my back. hope none of you are surgeons, either. let's all just watch the world die! spare me the sad laments - of course the patient doesn't stand a chance of recovering if everyone just keeps stabbing away...

  • Dec. 30, 2010, 11:28 p.m. CST

    BRAINDRAIN

    by DANNYGL0VERS_DICKBLOOD

    Would somebody shut that asshat up? He's like a gnat on a hot day.

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 12:16 a.m. CST

    I CAN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS GEEK CULTURE DEBATE

    by BringingSexyBack

    And frankly I don't want to. How's about going back to the old software and posting some news?

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 12:53 a.m. CST

    harry's chosen hddv-patton and here's why

    by Jeff

    Because it's a slow news day.

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 6:44 a.m. CST

    Stuntcock

    by fettitular

    How dare you leave off Chicken George and BrassMonkey/Fett off the "best of talkbackers" list! For shame! Those BrassMonkey/Fett diatribes/spats were the fuckin' best thing about this site. PERIOD. And Chicken George's weird, incoherent ramblings were also classic. Ahhhh, the good 'ol days...

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Yeah, Where's AsimovLives?

    by scrote

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 7:17 a.m. CST

    and that megan fox pussy juice guy and that boobs guy

    by 1997-2011

    weird people no longer around WTF?

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 7:22 a.m. CST

    And then Seth Rogen happened

    by PTSDPete

    Seriously, what's with his lewd crap ?</p> That shit's for stupid jocks ! </p>

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    I think that animation at the top says it all....

    by Wilford_Brimleys_Diabetes_Rage

    Harry Knowles Eats Shit

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 11:30 a.m. CST

    @ Wilfred Brimley re animation

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    A-fucking-men!

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 1:19 p.m. CST

    wilford_brimleys...It is a pretty good metaphor isn't it.

    by conspiracy

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Less than 1000 total posts on the Talkbacks....

    by conspiracy

    that fact say's more than any story I could write, or comment I could make. a year ago...there would be 5k posts in a Talkback about something as lame as some girls Youtube Video. Fucking sad...

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 2 p.m. CST

    HAPPY NEW YEAR AICN!...

    by scrote

    ....Please guys, for fucks sakes, get this site back to how it used to be....like full of news and kewl talkbacks...Peace out to all the TBers here....have yourself a better one!

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST

    News and 'kewl

    by Larry Sellers

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 2:44 p.m. CST

    talkbacks?

    by Larry Sellers

    When was that exactly?

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    I enjoyed reading that alot

    by Daredrummer

    Thanks for posting! I'm 35, born in '75, right there with ya the whole way. Just yesterday I was trying to explain to someone what it meant to see the likes of Reservoir Dogs and Clerks and City of Lost Children in the theatre back in the day...or to onw that copy of Suburbia or Akira you could show off to people that had never seen them...it was special. It meant something, it was stuff you had to be in the know to be a part of, not just be part of a random commercial crowd.

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Wah wah! We're getting older! Wah!

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    You see, when were kids, we and our friends were the only people who really liked the shit we liked. When my buddies and I first saw The Big Lebowski, we were like, holy shit, this movie's incredible. We quoted it endlessly, we bought posters and shit, and, most fittingly to these absurd navel-gazing articles, we thought we were the coolest shit because "nobody else," i.e. the fucktards in our school, knew or cared about it. But then a funny thing happened. We got older and went to college, where we met dozens, if not hundreds of people who shared our taste in movies we took pride in liking in our relatively cloistered existence back in high school. Then, after college (or the military, or the Rocco Clubbo School for Typists or whatever), we got fucking jobs, and we found that even more people liked shit similar to us. And you know what? I didn't resent that other people liked the seemingly esoteric shit I liked. I was like that, once upon a time, when I was a whiny little bitch preteen still depending on vaseline to jerk off. But as I got older and more mature, I was glad to meet and get to know people I never otherwise would have talked to. Common interests between people are a good thing. They often result in these things called "life experiences." Holy fuck, you are not special. You and your little tight-knit group of geek friends do not exist in a vacuum. Get over it. Grow the fuck up.

  • Dec. 31, 2010, 4:53 p.m. CST

    *Rocco Clubbo School for Typewriter Maintenance

    by THE_CHOPPAH

    Sorry.

  • Jan. 1, 2011, 10:57 p.m. CST

    Am I the only one who was here in '98

    by Alonzo Mosely

    Everyone else keeps saying they have been here since '99, but I was here in '98. Also this site is indeed dead, but one can only hope it pops up like a 2nd rate zombie at some point. If it does it will be old school zombie of course. Slow, shuffling, no news gets there fast but there is an inevitability it will shuffle there eventualy. Also, for me, the greatest moments in AICN history is a tie between Moriarty getting slapped down by Bruce Willis in the Vern DH4 talkback or the apperance of Demon Dave and his hilarious insanity in a review by Vern of a straight-to-DVD movie by Demon Dave (I think it was called Chaos, but don't quote me on that). Other highlights, the screenwriter of The Core offering to pay the cost of my ticket if I would just go see his movie based on 'real science'. Trying to get Kevin Smith to fall for my Nigerian 419 scam. The revelation of Grando and his black lightsaber. The talkbacks for that busty chick who had the screenplays sold youtube videos. Chicken George, remember him? Ahh the memories, and that is just scratching the surface.

  • Jan. 2, 2011, 12:35 a.m. CST

    You were never a rebel or trouble maker.

    by ZombieHunter

    Maybe in your own mind you might have had these heroic visions of yourself as you grew up in the age of plenty and permissiveness, watching movies with awesome special effects, downloading free porn on the internet and cel phones. I could see a guy who did dick all except BUY THINGS, think of himself as a rebel and, yes, a trouble maker. You know what needs to make a comeback? Dueling. Because I think that would thin out the level of faggetry today. I know a guy who fought in Korea who feels unappreciated too, so you and him have a lot in common. People don't realize it was people like him that saved South Korea from becoming North Korea. They just think of him as a war monger or what not. And you can totally relate to this old Chemistry Professor I know who sighs and shakes his head when he sees new students needing calculators, whereas he had to know actual math off the top of his head. But then there's you. Guy who bought shit, feeling defeated that the kids today just don't understand that when they buy the shit you used to buy, it has to be on your nerdy terms.

  • Jan. 2, 2011, 12:37 a.m. CST

    The black Light Saber . . .

    by ZombieHunter

    Ah, I remember that. Remember Iron Giant dude?

  • Jan. 2, 2011, 1:08 a.m. CST

    How about the 'real dragons' guy?

    by Alonzo Mosely

    Bomb in a ribcage. Sexy tomboy beanpole. Cheets and has a beer. Studio plants with their endless cries of 'it's not supposed to be Shakespeare' anytime a popcorn flick was ripped apart for having a terrible script. Harry's infamous "I just got off the phone with" posts. Fat kids chestbumping. First posts. Herc being petulant. Moriarty being insufferable. Quint being in King Kong. Vern being a god. The review comparing Happy Feet to communism. Harry somehow having a personal story about every movie released during his life, even if he would have to be 5 days old in some cases. The endless search for an edit button. Fake reviews. Harry's rambling Oscar posts.