Dec. 23, 2010, 3:57 p.m. CST
Dec. 23, 2010, 4:06 p.m. CST
even the rabbid fanboys are ripping on the screenplay (or lack there of)
Dec. 23, 2010, 4:09 p.m. CST
terrible, terrible flick...like they made it up as they went along.
Dec. 23, 2010, 4:13 p.m. CST
by jack black
bombs in recent years.You made Scott Pilgrim's commercial failure look like the BO success of the Titanic.
Dec. 23, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST
Its like Chronicles of Narnia: Whatever is happening now. At this point, the series is called Tron. Why? because its a cool name. Take The Thin Man series from the 30's. They all had "Thin Man" in the title, yet the first one was the only one with the thin man. The Pink Panther is similar. As tron was the secondary character in the original, there is no issue with him being minor in the sequel. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Bring on more, says I.
Dec. 23, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST
That was the game with the car and the ship would drop weapons on top of it. Classic.
Dec. 23, 2010, 5:07 p.m. CST
Get well soon and put out hot sauce committee
Dec. 23, 2010, 5:18 p.m. CST
These 2 hack, ass-clowns didn't write the beautiful episode "Numbers" (not "The Numbers"...). That brilliant episode was written by David fucking Fury (aka the best writer in the history of LOST, who was let go because Darlton wanted lazy "yes men" like the pair of untalented numbskulls, kitsis and horowitz). And they have, in fact, written some of the absolute WORST episodes in the entire LOST series: What Kate Does, Born to Run, Something Nice Back Home, Expose, Every Man For Himself, Fire and Water, and Everybody Hates Hugo. Yeah, great writers these 2 are... Jesus, at least with Tron, now they have been exposed to the WORLD as unbelievably untalented hacks. Thank God for TRON: LEGACY!
Dec. 23, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST
And how they landed this big a gig, with Tron, is just fucking baffling to me. Good thing is, they probably won't get any work after this :-)
Dec. 23, 2010, 5:22 p.m. CST
by Sicuv Uyall
That must mean Avatar is the lowest grossing movie of all time then. So according to your standards, Yogi must be killing at the box office now, you fucking moron.
Dec. 23, 2010, 5:25 p.m. CST
by jack black
TL final premiere grosses: 43m$ (domestically all the above). Yeah i am pretty sure right now in Disney they open champagnes to celebrate the movie's success...
Dec. 23, 2010, 5:50 p.m. CST
Problem with that "logic" is that The A Team, Losers, Expendables, and Machete didn't cost 300 million fucking dollars to make. 'Tard...
Dec. 23, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST
Tron is a fucking BOMB. Deal with it. I could really care less, since i had nothing invested in Tron in the first place, but i'm just calling it like it is. 300 million dollar budget, with a 43 million dollar weekend. HUUUUUUUUGE box office failure, no doubt. And sorry, unlike the superior AVATAR, it will not increase its box office over the next month (an amazing feat in and of itself...). Sadly, for you, it will drop about 50 % (being generous) and end up with around 120 million or so domestically. So in conclusion, based on MONEY SPENT and MONEY EARNED, it is without a fucking doubt, a BOMB. Deal.
Dec. 23, 2010, 5:56 p.m. CST
AVATAR is, in fact, the HIGHEST GROSSING FILM OF ALL TIME. You "fucking moron".
Dec. 23, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST
Fact is, the studio didn't lose as much on Yogi Bear, as Disney did with Tron. So put THAT in your crack pipe and smoke it, you punk.
Dec. 23, 2010, 6 p.m. CST
They won't get a 3rd shitty tron movie? Makes sense to me...
Dec. 23, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST
Now Avatar was a giant steaming pile of CGI shit. But Tron Legacy was awesome. And had a big opening weekend and will surely make money. The people hating on this...maybe they are peons who are bitter that no one listens to them. Tis a puzzlement.
Dec. 23, 2010, 6:06 p.m. CST
Or i'll be forced to summon the great William Faulkner, ala Smokey from Lost, and sick him on you again...
Dec. 23, 2010, 6:32 p.m. CST
Suckas they be sayin' they can take on Adam Horovitz. HURRICANE! You got clout! Other DJs... put your head out! Yes, another Beastie Boys joke in this thread. Fucking DEAL WITH IT.
Dec. 23, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST
"Now Avatar was a giant steaming pile of CGI shit. But Tron Legacy was awesome." LMFAO You fail at life, man... Utter failure.
Dec. 23, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST
The Expendables budget was a relatively low 80 million... And the A-Team was slightly higher at 110. And The Expendables grossed 103 million domestically, and the A-Team grossed a modest 77 mil. So... Expendables was definitely a "hit", and the A-Team didn't quite recoup what it cost (excluding dvd sales, etc.) THUS, Tron is still a bomb ;-)
Dec. 23, 2010, 6:43 p.m. CST
I'm still trying to decipher what the FUCK you just said there.
Dec. 23, 2010, 6:43 p.m. CST
Spy Hunter? Although you ALWAYS had machine guns in that. You picked up missiles, oil slicks and smokescreens from the weapons van.
Dec. 23, 2010, 6:45 p.m. CST
by frank cotton
and can't wait to watch it repeatedly in the future. wasn't the best story possible, but it was certainly more nuanced than the blunt object that was AVATAR. and i like AVATAR. but it does have some of the best visuals ever. wish i'd had some 'shrooms. now, where can i find one of those keyboards?
Dec. 23, 2010, 6:46 p.m. CST
Good fucking times.
Dec. 23, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST
You had unlimited machine guns in that game.
Dec. 23, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST
Yeah i'm gonna go ahead and guess that was it's entire run gross and not just the opening weekend.
Dec. 23, 2010, 6:59 p.m. CST
Yeuccchhh! Proper English, please. It's "I COULDN'T really care less".
Dec. 23, 2010, 6:59 p.m. CST
unfortunately, we're never seeing his face. Maybe they didn't want to spend the money on the agre regression deal for Boxleitner. you'd think he'd be easier since he has a brazillion miles of footage of him older than 80's but younger than now from Babylon 5
Dec. 23, 2010, 7:01 p.m. CST
You clearly don't understand what it takes to recoup your money. If my movie costs $100 million to make, and by the end of the first week it's taken $100 million, how am I doing? Have I broken even? No. I'm around $60 million down at this point.
Dec. 23, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST
But when someone tells you to wear your boner-pants... you wear your boner-pants.
Dec. 23, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST
Are you fucking serious? lol Yeah i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about... What specifically was wrong with my analysis of the box office for those 2 films? They DID barely break even, you fuck-mook. I neglected to add the FOREIGN gross as i am wagering that the foreign total cancels out ADVERTISING and MARKETING costs, which is a fair assessment (30-50 million give or take...). So yes, The Expendables BROKE EVEN. Something that Tron will most definitely not be able to say...
Dec. 23, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST
Actually, i understand it PERFECTLY you dolt. See my post above about foreign gross and marketing. In those 2 film's cases, those 2 aspects are a WASH, which is why i didn't bring them up. Are you really going to try and sit here and tell me that The Expendables, OVERALL (Domestic AND foreign gross AND DVD sales, compared to budget and marketing costs...) did NOT break even?!? Yeah, i'm the one who doesn't know what he's talking about. Clearly... lol
Dec. 23, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST
Making a PROFIT on a film would qualify it as a "hit". Dumbass.
Dec. 23, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST
Don't take it out on ME that Tron: Legacy was an absolute box-office failure. I'm just the messenger ;-)
Dec. 23, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST
Haha man... i already destroyed you 2 clowns and it turns out that i actually UNDERESTIMATED the foreign box office for The Expendables! Get this, Darcy and Drain... The Expendables grossed a whopping 171 million outside of the US. Which brings it to a total worldwide box office accumulation of 275 MILLION!! How bout that, you fucking nitwits? So unless you want to add a marketing cost of 200 MILLION, lmao... Then The Expendables was a HUGE SUCCESS. And that's still not even counting fucking DVD sales... "PWNED."
Dec. 23, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST
The Expendables made a nice 35 MIL opening weekend, which was almost equal to that of your beloved Tron. lulz...
Dec. 23, 2010, 8:11 p.m. CST
Budget = 110 mil Domestic Gross = 77 mil Foreign Gross = 100 mil Total Worldwide Gross = 177 mil Marketing costs? I'd say about 40 mil. May even be an over-estimate... So 177 mil to 150 mil. So for all you math geniuses (like BrainDrain lol) That's a PLUS 27 MILLION... i.e. "hit". And again, that's not even including DVD sales. Man, that was fun :-) You 2 dipshits care for any more "ownage"??
Dec. 23, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST
Just talking outta my arse ;-)
Dec. 23, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST
It's going to be a fucked up 12 months for us film nerds. WE have THOR to endure, lampoon and then forget about. Hopefully, Captain America works out. My ONLY hope is BATTLEFIELD:LOS ANGELES. that films looks dynamite.
Dec. 23, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST
Tron: Legacy is on pace to make as much money as fucking SALT. And Salt cost about half as much money to make... That's pretty awesome.
Dec. 23, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:09 p.m. CST
Drain, i seriously worry about you... You need a CAT-Scan, STAT!
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:11 p.m. CST
Totally agree about Battlefield: Los Angeles. That shit DOES look dynamite! I seriously wasn't expecting that... but that fucking teaser trailer... Oh my God. Best trailer for a film to come out next year by a country mile! (Tree of Life as a runner up) That Johann johannsson song was absolutely fucking PERFECT.
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:14 p.m. CST
expecially compared to something like Tron: Legacy, needs to get a new fucking hobby lol In terms of cinematography, score, acting, writing (dialogue, pacing, and structure, etc.) Serenity absolutely OBLITERATES Tron, in every conceivable way...
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST
That's hilarious. I sound like an uneducated, southern black person or something... EXpecially! lol
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:16 p.m. CST
1) Serenity is dope. It is much better than TRON.Tron wasn't awful...but a BIG letdown. 2)Yes, that trailer was so good...I almost cried. Then I realized fuck it. why cry? just watch that movie ten times. I'll save the crying for THOR.
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:17 p.m. CST
Just in case anyone's offended by that stuff. Just a factual observation ;-) Kinda like saying "i want to aXe you a question", you know?
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:17 p.m. CST
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:20 p.m. CST
here ya go my . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZwLsvO6YTw
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:20 p.m. CST
And man, i totally agree with you about Thor. That's one of the absolute WORST trailers i have seen in a fucking loooooong time. Wow that shit looks terrible... Makes the Green Lantern look like the Dark Knight.
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:23 p.m. CST
You know what looks DECENT now? The green hornet. Yep.Mind you, I saw the trailer before TRON, and I was piss drunk and with my g.f...but seriously...it looked cool(and I'm a Gondry fan). But good lord...green lantern and Thor will tank. I know it. (financially and creatively)
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:23 p.m. CST
by frank cotton
shouldn't you be whining and crying about prequels? somewhere else? and hey, you! the other dipshit...it is a TRON talkback, and we will continue to talk about it
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST
that bout sums it up, no?
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:26 p.m. CST
If you liked it, you are probably socially inept. And a closet gay.And I am willing to bet you've dressed up as a TRON character in the past. Which is sad.(and yes, there is nostalgic value from the first TRON to me...but seriously..they're not great films).So enjoy the laughs.You can even wear your tron outfit.
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:28 p.m. CST
Sucker Punch Scream 4 Priest Pirates 4 Hangover 2 The Green Hornet Along with Thor and Green Lantern, those will all probably suck... Holding out hope for Cap America. And i'm cautiously optimistic for Cowboys and Aliens and Transformers 3... Looking forward to The Super 8, Kung Fu Panda 2, Tintin, Hanna, Tree of Life, The Troll Hunter, and Rubber. And i'm hoping Alien: Paradise kicks as much ass as it has the chance to... And surprisingly interested in X-Men First Class with the cast and crew they're putting together. I'm probably just stoked because they got rid of Brett Ratner: Franchise Killer ;-)
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST
Don't know what that was all about.
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST
And yes, the new X-MEN seems to have an interesting tone, and love the idea of setting it in the 60's, when the original comic debuted. And, FIREFLY has a comic. Mind you, I'm not obsessed with Firefly...but it was certainly MUCH BETTER than TRON 2.
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:34 p.m. CST
lol So random... Give it to him milkshake ;-)
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:37 p.m. CST
lol did i miss something here? I guess it would be appropriate to mention that childhood-raping EPIC cinematic miscarriage... since i guess Tron was like a really MILD version of that. I couldn't care enough about Tron in the first place, so it's apparent failure doesn't really effect me one way or the other. But yes, the Prequels were indeed HORRIBLE. I'll never get tired of saying that ;-)
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST
I truly hope you're about 14 years old. If not... You need meds, stat. And therapy too. Yup, meds and therapy for your sad ass...
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:40 p.m. CST
Nice! This milkshake guy is definitely alright in my book ;-) And agreed on the "period piece" setting of X-men. Very intriguing... Hellfire club, emma frost, sinister... Yeah baby!
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:41 p.m. CST
Dec. 23, 2010, 9:57 p.m. CST
so why the hell was Tron totally underutilised? Why did Jeff bridges die rather than join Tron and fight until Sam cam back? What is re-integration and why would it kill someone?
Dec. 23, 2010, 10:56 p.m. CST
What a miserable film. It was dreadfully boring. I have no interest in what these writers have to say, other than as an exercise in learning what not to do.
Dec. 23, 2010, 11:47 p.m. CST
Dec. 23, 2010, 11:50 p.m. CST
Don't ask valid questions that expose the half-assed, asinine script for the piece of shit that it truly is... Don't attempt to use any logic when viewing or discussing the film... For godsake man, turn off your brain! Tron is AWESOME and that's all there is to it. You don't want to upset the Tronees...
Dec. 23, 2010, 11:51 p.m. CST
Well put! lol
Dec. 24, 2010, 12:09 a.m. CST
I LOVED Tron Legacy. The dialogue is a little clunky sometimes, but it has some of the best action I've ever seen in a film, not to mention the visuals and the amazing soundtrack by Daft Punk. The story is solid, and very deep at times. Just saw it a 2nd time (no 3-D) and I fell even more in love with it. When the Blu-ray comes out I'm just going to let it play nonstop on repeat. "The old man's gonna go knock on the sky. Listen for the sound."
Dec. 24, 2010, 12:47 a.m. CST
Really enjoyed it. Enjoyed Avatar too. Don't give a shit about box office numbers, other than I hope they're big enough to make a sequel likely. I'm kind of a geek, so I'd be remiss if I didn't like a brand new Tron movie for crying out loud. I guess I shouldn't be surprised at all the hostility here - but fuck all, you haters really need to get a fucking life. I'm not saying you can't criticize movies that don't do it for you, but have some perspective and at least bring something better than "Wow, what a piece of shit that was." It's easy to tear things down with no regard for the craft, much more difficult to give thoughtful criticism or even an alternative suggestion. Do you really want to be the guy who says "Aw crap, a shitty Tron movie. And Thor looks lame and Captain America is sure to be crap." Honestly, did any of you actually read comic books when you were young? Is there any spark of wonder in your hearts? Don't you want these movies to be good? Are you so jaded - that only "That Empire Strikes Back" will do? Every other offering is "The worst movie ever." It's sad, actually a pathetic caricature of the comic book guy.
Dec. 24, 2010, 12:53 a.m. CST
What is it about these simpletons that people seem to be so enamored with? Is it because their music is so simple, that it doesn't require any effort for the listener, like so many modern pop groups? I just don't see how anyone who appreciates quality "electronica" (like old-school Prodigy - pre-'97 stuff, Orbital, Aphex Twin etc.) could ever enjoy this crap. I'm assuming anyone that likes Daft Punk, also enjoys them some Eifel 65, Fatboy Slim, and Basement Jaxx... Would i be correct in assuming this? Honest question.
Dec. 24, 2010, 1:04 a.m. CST
Nice little rant there bud... but that was a pretty simplistic analysis of us so called "haters". You threw out a bunch of stereotypes and generalizations in there, so i can't say YOU are bringing much to the table either... so don't be a hypocrite, man. "It's easy to tear things down with no regard for the craft, much more difficult to give thoughtful criticism or even an alternative suggestion." Sure, some people absolutely do this. Both on the negative AND positive side of the argument... but that doesn't speak for everyone here, especially me. Shit, i write freakin' ESSAYS on what i thought about a given film, both for ones i love, and ones i hate. And i have already done so about Tron, either earlier in this TB or another one... so i'm not gonna sit here and type long, drawn out posts of my critical analysis everytime a discussion about the film comes up. I'm keepin' it simple right now as i've said what i needed to say about it. So that is why you will get short, to the point, slightly exaggerated (it's more fun that way) remarks about the film from me. So anyway, as you were...
Dec. 24, 2010, 1:10 a.m. CST
You had never heard of Daft Punk before the film came out? I'm just really curious now man... honestly, how old are you? I'm not trying to start a fight with you, i'm genuinely curious lol And yeah, it's not even that it's just "Synthesizer stuff"... it's that its SIMPLISTIC synthesizer stuff. They just don't try to do anything interesting or innovative... I'm telling you guys, Paul Hartnoll or Richard James could have made a fucking KILLER score to this flick. Especially a Richard James/Philip Glass duo. That would have been unfreakinbelievable! Hell, i'd even trust Liam Howlett at this point to do more with this film than Daft Punk...
Dec. 24, 2010, 2:19 a.m. CST
Can never go wrong with good 'ol Johnny boy. You know, when i first read that, i thought "what the hell? John Williams for... Tron??" But after thinking about it for a minute, that would be pretty fucking cool! Maybe get an old-school 80's vibe... like his work on Close Encounters or some shit. Would've been pretty interesting...
Dec. 24, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST
MELODY. That's for fucking sure.
Dec. 24, 2010, 5:21 a.m. CST
We were jamming on sum 80s programs that were so awesome that if clue gets hold of this disk filled with em man.. Well it wouldn't be good. Programs like tetris. If clue ever got out with tetris it wouldn't be good man. Like, after I had the entire shiva laser development team killed and moved the laser to my arcade. Well man instead of changing the world with the most powerfull technology ever devised- I just zapped myself into my computer to bang Quora after my wife bit it.
Dec. 24, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST
...like Tron Legacy." <p> Beaks, what are you talking about? These guys are giving Kurtzman and Orci a run for their money in the shit screenplay department.
Dec. 24, 2010, 6:13 a.m. CST
Living up to your name again I see. The opening 10 minutes of Serenity are better than both Tron and its sequel put together. Serenity has a great screenplay, something Tron has never had. This isn't an opinion, just hard facts if you know anything at all about the art of screenwriting.
Dec. 24, 2010, 6:24 a.m. CST
In Spyhunter your car pulled into the back of a truck to get weapons upgrades. Roadbasters was the one where a ship flew in and dropped the weapon onto the car.
Dec. 24, 2010, 7:05 a.m. CST
Seriously. Tron was a good movie.
Dec. 24, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST
by Stifler's Mom
which makes them a pretty good match for scoring Tron Legacy.
Dec. 24, 2010, 10:28 a.m. CST
Tron Legacy's production budget was only 170 million and the movie is sitting at 62 million as of dec 22nd. I think the word Bomb and any comparison to Scott Pilgrim are ill advised.
Dec. 24, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST
Just bleakness. Nothing new brought to table except the possibility of something cool next movie. No grid bug battles(why were they established last film?) or giant virus monsters. No Internet. No Tron. It's like naming the star wars saga Mon Mothma as much as he's used.
Dec. 24, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST
is better than the film
Dec. 24, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST
Sorry, my post came across as being unnecessarily aggressive. Slipped into "opinionated internet asshole mode". I guess what I should have said was that your argument didn't seem to make sense as it stood. It appeared to be suggesting that The Expendables had made its money back *because* of the figures that you quoted, i.e. 80m cost, 103m box office. You seemed to be drawing an arrow of causality between the two.
Dec. 24, 2010, 1:01 p.m. CST
real music people not some shit shitted out of shit
Dec. 24, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST
taking place in 2 worlds. Sure you've established that dillenger jr will bring back the mcp for the next film- but you've failed to make a stand-alone film like Avatar. You've gone for the Harry potter milk and short changed us for now. Will you get to complete this saga that feels like a first act?
Dec. 24, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST
Dec. 24, 2010, 10:52 p.m. CST
yeah really great <p><p>"Prewitt Building." rockin
Dec. 25, 2010, 1:07 a.m. CST
Budget=170 million. Box Office Take as of Thursday the 23rd 91 million worldwide. One week out, and it's made over half its money back. It's a fucking good movie, and just because it isn't a 'masterpiece' or up to some impossible standard that a lot of you seem to have for film in general, all of a sudden it's crap? Here's what you do: Go make a movie. Go on. I fucking dare you. A short film will do. Write it, cast it, shoot it, score it, cut it, whatever- just make one and prove to the world that you know what the fuck you're talking about. Maybe then i'll listen to what you fucking retards have to say.
Dec. 25, 2010, 1:48 a.m. CST
Dec. 25, 2010, 1:49 a.m. CST
Dec. 25, 2010, 1:50 a.m. CST
Dec. 25, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST
From what I've come to figure out about Disney movies are that if they come from the Bruckheimer stable (National Treasure, Pirates) or Pixar, you might get a good movie because the Disney execs are pretty much kept away from interfering with the story . If they are from the straight up Disney camp, forget it. Tron suffers from no one being able to protect it from bad writers and whatever suit they answered to. I wanted to see Flynn's cycle kick some ass. Didn't they deduce that the comic con crowd who went ga ga got excited because they were teased with an action sequence, something the new movie lacked incredibly. We needed more doing and less talking.
Dec. 25, 2010, 11:38 a.m. CST
You name shows you'll love anything as long as it glows. The promotion machine behind this thing spent TONS of cash in hope to get people in. Didn't work. You say it couldn't live up to the hype, guess what, movies CAN live up to hype. All they have to be is good. They had all the ingredients to have a bad ass film on their hands - but they dropped the ball.
Dec. 25, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST
My name shows simply I have a love for Tron, not your generic insult. Hype was not mentioned in my post, either. Disney obviously did spend a lot on marketing, but your 'TONS' doesn't have a number behind it, and I haven't yet seen one from Disney beyond the production budget (yet). I don't know what movie you watched, but there was plenty of crazy good action to go along with the exposition that so many people seem to have a problem with. Your post states nothing past that which others have already said before you, and my challenge still stands. Put your money where your mouth is, and make something better, or contribute to a production so you understand the kind of work and love that goes into a huge endeavor such as Tron: Legacy, which I'm STILL amazed even exists.
Dec. 25, 2010, 2:05 p.m. CST
Films aren't considered bombs until it's been proven that they've lost a ridiculous amount of money. Examples of *actual* bombs as follows: Cutthroat Island-budget 115 mil. earned 10 mil to extreme a difference? how about- Sahara -budget 241 mil earned 119 mil I'll let you all do the math, if you've made it past the first grade, of course. It's possible that T:L may not be very profitable for Disney initially, however in its first 8 days, it's made 95 million back towards its 170 mil (sans marketing) budget. This doesn't take into account soundtrack sales or other merchandising either, and the second week has only just started. Any conjecture at this point is useless, and displays a complete lack of a brain. Now, remember, prof. IF you can get the cute girl in your math class to go on a date with you, you had best beg your mom not to embarrass you too much when she has to drive you both to the amusement park.
Dec. 25, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST
by frank cotton
all haters please remove yourselves to the game grid, to prepare for your eventual deresolution. i believe that a number of the faithful will go back for additional viewings; i know i will. a response to a prior attack: be it known thruout the land that FRANK COTTON, having been around the block a few times, has had his fair share of tail, and is an unabashed heterosexual. as for those who would attempt, and fail, to besmirch his reputation, frank sez that they are indeed losers, trolls, and reprobates, and it is likely that the closest they will ever get to having pussy, is being a pussy, themselves. TRON LEGACY ROCKS, and like TRON before it, time will prove this out. END OF LINE
Dec. 25, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST
So by your logic - someone needs to have built a car before they comment on how one handles. And as for how much Disney spent on marketing, Tron commercials and merged advertising are EVERYWHERE. I would go so far as to say this film has more joint marketing behind it than any film in the last 5 years. I don't have an exact number for you but I'll give you credit enough to say you're smart enough to know this kind of media push is very very expensive and adds to the money that needed to be earned back - and possibly will be, but not quickly and that is what matters to studios. A quick delivery. Slow returns = failure.
Dec. 25, 2010, 5:56 p.m. CST
Conjecture on the film's success or failure is a moot point right now. Either the film's business will slow and it will be a flop, it will have legs and keep a steady stream of business over the following weeks making it quite a bit of money, or something in between. You can't tell the future, so just stop. As to 'someone needs to have built a car before they comment on how one handles.' You take the analogy too far. It's much, MUCH closer to (and this is using New York State guidelines, mind you): "Someone needs to read the state requirements and take the test to get their permit, then be on the road learning with a licensed driver the recommended number of hours, take the required 5 hour course and attending a defensive driving course, taking the road test, obtaining your license, and then succeed in not getting any tickets during your 6 month probationary period, BEFORE THEY CAN DRIVE THE CAR" Until then, watching a film without having some kind of experience with the process of making one makes you a child stuck in the backseat, looking out the window, passive in your experience just as is sitting in a theater, watching a film that other people have put a piece of themselves into while all you do is whine. Grow up.
Dec. 25, 2010, 6 p.m. CST
by jack black
from the lack of reactions from Disney on the movie's BO performance.We are on the 2nd week of the movie's theatrical release and we havent heard ANYTHING from Disney: how they feel about the movie's premiere,if their expectations were met,the most important question if we are going to get a sequel and so on. Usually for a movie which is made to jump-start a franchise and goes well in the FIRST week,there are, if not official statements from the execs or comments from the key creators of the movie about its performance,at least gossips of a sequel coming from the inside. But with Tron nothing from the above has happened.neither comments,nor statements or gossips.nothing,zip,nada. And we havent heard anything because Disney right now are holding their breath and keeping a close eye on the international and domestic grosses to see if Tron manages to show legs and will keep the same cash flow running for the next 2-3 weeks. Then they will decide what to do with the sequel and the whole franchise.But until now,not only Tron made a mediocre premiere but it didnt even manage to hold its position after Little Fockers premiered.And we are talking about an eye-candy 3D movie for kids in the xmas holiday period ffs. Which means that the movie is bombing and frankly speaking it is turning to be a bigger flop even than Scott Pilgrim.We are going to know officially that there is not going to be a sequel in the next week imho.
Dec. 25, 2010, 6:11 p.m. CST
Scott Pilgrim made back half of its production budget. Period. It was obviously a bomb. Tron is over halfway past its p.budget and going into week 2. Run the numbers in another 2 weeks, and look up what a box office flop or bomb is considered to be in the eyes of the industry. Maybe Disney IS holding their breath, waiting to see what it does. Maybe we will get an announcement in the near future regarding a sequel. I don't know. And. Neither. Do. You. Knock it off.
Dec. 25, 2010, 6:22 p.m. CST
by jack black
Budget 150m + Promotion 150m =300m The studio's share is half the grosses after the first 2 weeks if i remember correctly.So the movie in order to break even,it has to earn at least 500m worldwide after its run. Yeah i am pretty sure with the movie's current rhythm of making money,it will reach the 500m after another 2 weeks.yep.....
Dec. 25, 2010, 6:33 p.m. CST
I haven't seen any figures concerning marketing costs listed anywhere. Unless you're the guy who spent money on the marketing, it seems like you're doing a fictional math problem. Also, even IF your numbers were accurate, how does your $300 million conjecture equal a break even point of $500 million? for a guy who says he just did some math, that's $200 million that just magically appeared. Where did that extra bit come from?
Dec. 25, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST
my brain glossed over the 'studio's share is half the grosses' my bad on that one.
Dec. 26, 2010, 12:03 a.m. CST
they should shoot this guys.
Dec. 27, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST
by Fat Lenny
I thought it was a lot of fun. Not perfect, but I enjoyed the hell out of it. Looking at Olivia Wilde for an hour certainly didn't hurt the eyes either. Hope they do a 3rd one.
Dec. 27, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST
They didn't understand what made the original so awesome and instead, they ended up cribbing scenes and characters from The Matrix trilogy and leaning on the visual FX to distract people from all of the holes that perforate this plot. It has done that, to some degree...I still do like the movie, but not NEARLY as much as I should have, given the fact that I've been waiting since the sixth grade for a sequel.
Dec. 27, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST
by frank cotton
'lawnmower man 2' or 'the hidden 2', now there's the definition of awful. TRON 2 may not have been ESB quality, but it sure as shit wasn't that bad. 'lawnmower man 2' made me want to track down those responsible and kill them. people that throw away money in that fashion don't deserve to live