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Kevin Smith's Red State gets a pre-Sundance teaser trailer!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a not-stolen embed (I swear!). This is one high on my list to see at Sundance, if Mr. Smith will allow a person of my stature (ie the blacklisted evil "press") anywhere near his film, that is.
I know I'm intrigued by the thought of Kevin Smith doing a straight up horror tale, I love John Goodman like nobody's business and I quite like the tone of the below trailer. It's different territory for Smith. I'm not too keen on the production value, but let's just assume this is pre-DI and pre-final mix.
Also of note "Harvey Boys Production" credit and a March release date? Could this mean he's already picked up distribution? Harvey meaning Harvey Weinstein? Curiouser and curiouser...
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Ben Affleck wins
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Or is is House of 1000 Corpses 3? Either way this looks like it.
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at 0:19 looks like we're going to get to see stephen root show his range!
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looks awesome
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Don't routinely make a note to see Smith's films (though I like some of 'em when I do), but this one got a sticky note in the brain.
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You can hide! But you ain't getting off this mountain alive!!!!"
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But a film where Mr Smith cannot use his puerile and childish humour may be the best thing for him. Can't tell much from a teaser except no reefer addicts and no fart, poop, titty or cock jokes...its got to be an improvement on his recent works surely? Come on Kevin you can do it. Only worry is that Quint would be jizzing all over this if he'd heard it was any good..worrying sign that even the AICN Smith sycophants aren't prepared to over commit just yet.
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Kevin is reinventing himself.
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or does this shit suck? I like his early movies enough to never count him out, but I probably smoke twice as much as him and I still find no redeeming value in anything post-Jersey Girl except for some small ammount of Clerks II appreciation.
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I forgot about Zack & Miri Make A Porno. I actually really like that
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Dec. 23, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST
I think I'll wait for the proper trailer
by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS
Because this teaser looks like the kind of thing you see on one of those DTV DVD movies. Hopefully the proper trailer will make me excited to see this because, as a hardcore horror fan, this collection of clips did absolutely nothing to make me more interested in RED STATE unfortunately.
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I believe I read somewhere that this is him and Scott Mosier's production company. Or, no, maybe it's him and Jon Gordon. Either way, I think it's a production company that he's a part of.
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Yeah, Harvey Boys is just the name of him and Jon Gordon's production company they used for this film. It's just named in honor of Harvey Weinstein; the big man himself had nothing to do with this film. He passed on financing it, actually.
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Since the film was independently financed, The Harvey Boys is the name that Smith and producer Jon Gordon chose to call the production company for the film. So no distribution yet, that's just production. He talked about it when he released the first teaser poster for the flick, it's on that press release of sorts somewhere.
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...because we all know that conservatives and republicans are CRAZY and will effing KILL you, am I right? :/
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Thats a small budget. most minor Hollywood films cost 15 mill at min.
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A complete break from the genre he is known for and reportedly brilliant performances from Michael Parks and John Goodman (who are rarely less than brilliant). And if making the villains a Phelps family type of cult is an "another example of Hollyweird's hatred for America" then good for Hollyweird because those aren't Americans we want.
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Could be shit...I can't really tell. The film quality does have that low budget amateur look but who cares
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It's the Best thing he's ever done. Left me shaken & grateful.
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Dec. 23, 2010, 3:02 p.m. CST
Looks intriguing, but even speaking as a liberal, calling it RED STATE
by Yul Nate
is kind of a douchebag move on the part of Smith. it would be like making a movie about Osama Bin Laden and calling it ISLAM or THE MIDDLE EAST. The villains are a tiny, tiny sect of fundamentalists, but the title lumps them in with half the country.
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The Venture Bros. did that years ago with their Christmas special.
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After Cop Out, I think we would all agree that Smith is better when he writes his own stuff. Pretty sure that the movie wasn't self-financed, by the way. When the Weinsteins passed on it, the producers found alternative independent financing; but it is being done very low budget (not always a bad thing with horror movies).
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a ton of press, Which might or might not work in his advantage. Personally i don't see what the big fucking deal. I think as a horror movie title it works. Also Smith is not into politics at all. It's not like he is saying something with the title. I bet he just thought it was a clever pun and good for the flick.
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Plus there's the fact that Fred Phelps (the guy that inspired this movie) is apparently a democrat.
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Dec. 23, 2010, 3:14 p.m. CST
I'm glad to see Fred Phelps get sent up the way he should be
by mika_wallace
Those Westboro people are absolutely moronic.
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How can anyone that is such a genius not think that some people would have a problem with Porno in the title is beyond me. What was so pathetic about ZAMMAP is how much it failed despite the free press.
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But that Gaiman quote has me second guessing that.
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I hope by failed, you mean financially. That movie was funny as hell.
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he loved it as well. He was amazed that it was his movie.
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just recently, finally, jumped in and watched Zak&miri and CopOut - and was stunned to enjoy the hell out of both of them. So. exciting to see this weird edgy disturbing trailer from doctor smith. Hopefully people will start paying attention to him again.
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I can't see anyone picking this up for more than 1,500 Prints at most, probably 500 unless the Sundance buzz is through the roof.
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Was also used (although changed to say 'MTV') by the State back in the day... So the Venture Bros. stole it too (much like almost every joke on that show).
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just curious. After watching ZAMMAP's making of feature, i thought strongly: they should have just called this movie "How to Make a Porno" and people would have been curious. When it came out, some part of me was extremely NOT interested in discovering whether the fat hairy guy was going to get in any porn action, as the title seemed to promise. but the premise of the movie is awesome. (my oops)
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Based on what I'm seeing this is the most dynamic Smith has ever been in his career. From the lighting, the camera shots and the content it looks like he's trying new ground here. Oh but wait...this is the internet. Where everyone hates everything for no reason other then to make themselves feel superior.
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Speaking as a lifelong Canadian, and having spoken to many other Canadians on the subject, I can quite honestly say that American Christian fundamentalists just BARELY take 2nd place to the fundamentalist Muslims as the craziest, scariest group of people on the planet. Sure, they may not be as brutal and violent as the fundamentalist Muslims, but it honestly terrifies me far more that there are people in your country wielding significant amounts of power, who believe that the earth is only 5,000 years old. Or that Republican who is trying to become chair of the House Energy Committee who said that we don't have to worry about global warming (or any natural disaster for that matter) because God promised Noah that he wouldn't wipe out the earth again lol. Craaaaaazzzzzzzzzyyyyyy. Really, what is scarier? Impoverished religious zealots who blow up a few people every now and then, or powerful religious zealots who get a nuclear arsenal dropped in their lap every couple of years and who believe the biblical Apocalypse is not only nigh, but is *a good thing that shouldn't be avoided*. Religious people are crazy, this movie is pretty much a documentary.
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I think you're full of crap, but let's see your selection of crazy environmentalists. Please itemize it by the number of people each of them killed, and we'll see if all of them put together add up to one abortion-clinic bomber.
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[i]mrpoop, what title should they have picked? by warrene33[/i] I don't know what title should have been. It did nothing to offend me at all, but it was a mistake. When I was watching the MLB Playoffs on TBS where ZAMMAP was heavily advertised I wondered if there were people out there who would be offended since it is a family form of entertainment. It wasn't too many days later that the campaign switched to Zack & Miri when I found out my answer.
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i mean i think its about some religious nuts who hate gay people running around being lunatics, but i cant rely tell from this trailer
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America is a sea of red, with little islands of blue sprinkled here and there. Dunno how libs sleep at night, knowing redneck hordes could at any time break down their doors and read "Decision Points" to them against their will.
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Yes, I have the handicap of not being a crazy, delusional person. The funny thing is that like most US republican 'Christians', your ideals do not even jive with the religion you profess to believe in. You make remarks about one-child programs, environmentalists, and anti-capitalism without even realizing those things are all very *Christian* ideals. Taking care of each other, especially the weak, is one of, if not THE primary tenets of Christianty. Our economy? Remember that time he drove out all the money lenders? Or said that the rich man has a slim chance of getting into Heaven? Yeah, Christ wasn't a big fan of capitalism, he's pretty much the biggest hippie in the history of humanity. He would absolutely, undoubtedly, 100% be a socialist if he were here today, and if you think otherwise you're just....just crazy. And obviously not comprehending that book your clutching. Nah, you guys aren't Christians, not really. You say you are, you convince yourselves you believe in the bullshit, but in practice, the religious right couldn't be farther from true Christians if they tried. You're just a bunch of assholes clinging to a 2,000 year old book that promises you there will be cake waiting for you at the afterparty. And the funniest part of it all is it contains a loophole where you can go ahead and be the biggest douchebag on the planet for your entire life, but as long as you sincerely 'accept christ into your life' in the last 5 minutes you're still getting your parade.
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... is this movie is modeled on a Democrat, who are typically the most bigoted, sexist people in America.
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"You're just a bunch of assholes clinging to a 2,000 year old book that promises you there will be cake waiting for you at the afterparty. And the funniest part of it all is it contains a loophole where you can go ahead and be the biggest douchebag on the planet for your entire life, but as long as you sincerely 'accept christ into your life' in the last 5 minutes you're still getting your parade." So you attack him for not following the Bible ... and then attack the Bible? You like it both ways, don't you? Apparently, you're just another backward atheist liberal fundy who thinks he's a thinker but actually is a foolish, irrational religious fanatic who needs to go back to philosophy 101 ... oh and how to think rationally 101.
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about a bunch of New Englanders that abolish Christianity, and lovingly accept their Muslim neighbors into the fold, only to find out that extremist Islam is like a billion times worse that what you'll find in Arkansas or Kansas? What a pussy Smith is.
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Thanks Kevin. I guess because I don't like big government statists like Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi telling me what kind of light bulbs I should use and what kind of cars I can drive, I'm a crazy fundamentalist right out of a horror movie. That's weird because last time I checked I was a secularist. I guess I should either quit my job and suck on the government teet like a good liberal, or join a public sector union and get job security and posh benefits until I'm 90. God I wish I was a leftist; it's so easy and requires no thought whatsoever.
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"... but as long as you sincerely 'accept christ into your life' in the last 5 minutes you're still getting your parade." This might be technically true, but it's a pretty rare phenom, I would imagine. The fact that is a primary teaching of the Bible, and one that Jesus supported on the cross, and the fact that you insult Jesus for believing it ... right after saying Jesus was awesome and a socialist makes it pretty obvious you take your talking points from the ignorant masses. Jesus was a "socialist" only when it came to His church and His people. You accuse people taking him our of context and mold him to their image, and then do it yourself. That would be called hypocrisy, you know. But the way, He didn't much care for or make pronouncements about the economies or politics of the government. By the way, the only government ever prescribed by the Bible was a theocracy (which was later disbanded) that required the government to care for the widows and poor. The tax for this socialist system was a total of about 25%. Are you suggesting that the best possible solution to the world is a Christian-run socialist regime? Cause you know, they've tried secular and atheistic socialist regimes, and those don't turn out too well. I mean, really, just take a look at history. Eh. I know you get your facts from Hollywood. Try reading some religious books, including the Bible. You'll see you haven't a clue to what Jesus said or what He ever meant.
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Leftists in the blue states are just as religious, except that they worship at the alter of the state rather than an ancient myth. I think they're more dangerous because a religious Christian is more inclined to refrain from constantly picking your pocket, whereas the state worshipers will tax you into oblivion and tell you it's for your own good. I'll take a Christian fundamentalist who leaves me the fuck alone over a meddling nanny-stater any day of the week.
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Interesting shift of gear for Smith. As long as it doesn't turn out to be another Dogma.
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I'm guessing this movie will be lucky if it breaks $25 million in Blue States alone.
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Let's keep that in mind, people.
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Excellent point. At least in America this kind of insane zealotry displayed by Westboro is seen for what it is. There is, also, the freedom to decry it without fear of a Sheria-like reprisal.
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Whats with the change in the TBs?<br><br>I haven't been on a computer in over a month.
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the only film at sundance worth a poop... i tried the lotto to get single tickets but had no luck. was prepared to fly out to see it.<br><br>now i'll have to wait two years for it to show in the US
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How can all you people hate on a movie based on a minute teaser trailer? Trailers can be deceiving. Skyline had a decent trailer but the movie was the biggest sack of shit of 2010. At least wait till you see Red State b4 you burn it down.
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But it eventually became apparent to me that he is a hack, pure and simple. I know he didn't write Cop Out, but that doesn't excuse the fact that he greatly contributed to it and vehemently defended the final product. Red State looks unbelievably amateurish (on every level), which suits Mr. Smith quite nicely.
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Is fine by me. As an anarcho-capitalist I want the country to split up whether by vote or war. If it's war I am going to want an entire goon squad of dimwitted knee-scraping Christians I can whip up against the liberal collective.
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m. night does...
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You look at the
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Dec. 23, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST
If this is the Kevin Smith who directed Cop Out....
by theycallmemrtibbs
I'll Pass... Boy was that movie bad...I mean BAD BAD, nOT LL Cool J or Micheal Jackson Bad But Bad as in FUCKING tERRIBLE!
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I mean it does look a student film but it's also cool that his directing a serious movie. If he really put in his own money that is always a respectful thing
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Dec. 23, 2010, 8 p.m. CST
yep.this is an absolute pass. Kevin, get a grip man.
by idrinkyourmilkshake
This looks like ass. Like he decided to make an entire film off the CRAZIES trailer. I agree, the production looks cheap. My god Kevin...take time off and do something funny again. you are gifted in that genre. And I agree with Harry on Clerks 2...great film. Pull in the usuals, and make another goofy, fun film.
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The 70s CBS special presentation intro thing had me laughing my balls off which I appreciate, but I had to watch the clip a few times before I could begin to appreciate something that is so obviously intended to be disturbing.
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Dec. 23, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST
anyone with a southern accent talking about Jesus = horror
by BadMrWonka
at least for me...scary as hell!
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This trailer is out of sync and speed up, makes the footage look like 60fps and like a tv movie. If you look at the red state youtube account you will notice there is a 24fps trailer there and in 720p.
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that's a solid trailer. gives some, take some.
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As for cheap? Sure. But name a Kevin Smith movie with any sort of noteworthy cinematography and I will slap you for blindness. I watched the HD on YouTube. I think it looked great, far better than his usual stuff. Like there's an eye here, and it's looking at things. A bit shakey-cam, sure. But stuff is framed. There is composition. That's a quantum leap over his other work. He's phoned in his last few, imo. I hope he's refreshed and inspired by doing something completely different. I'm certainly interested.
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You want to impress me. Go after the religions that actually preach to KILL/HARM innocent people EVERYDAY.... I can see the sequel to this being about the oh so scary and evil Amish!!
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Dec. 23, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST
Ten bucks there says there is a monologue about gay sex in this turd...
by sns
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Probably not, unless humans start to bleed a different color.
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Damn. I have a feeling about this one, though. I like it when Smith tests the boundaries of religious tolerance. I also like the buddy-Jesus.
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So what if it looks "cheap"? If the story is good, it has actual impact, and is suspenseful, who cares what it was shot on?
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... don't judge the movie by the man. I love Big Kev as a rule, but he has become a bit of a douche recently. This movie might be his Magnum Opus
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Dec. 24, 2010, 3:48 a.m. CST
rednecks running around action-packed but its missing somethin
by 1997-2011
Larry the Cable Guy, git-r-done
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The Devils Rejects was great.
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"So you attack him for not following the Bible ... and then attack the Bible? You like it both ways, don't you?" This may be hard for you to understand, but I'll try to explain...I was pointing out *his* and *your* hypocrisy in professing to follow a religion while maintaining social viewpoints that are counter intuitive to that religions precepts. *I* don't believe in the bible... Not quite sure how I can be a 'religious fanatic' when I don't subscribe to a religion... Also, you kind of lose your right to insult anyone else's rationality so long as you believe in a magical wish-granting Sky Wizard. I mean honestly, if I started a conversation by telling you that I believed leprechauns are real, how seriously would you take my rationality?
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gets you to heaven. all those believers want all that $$$ and pussy but in heaven.
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he'll be like oh snap i got me some gig with the porno guy
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Kevin Smith never fucked my dog, burnt crosses on my lawn or strapped me into a chair to watch his films. Does it look like something i'd be interested in? Yes. Transaction complete. Love being an adult.
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I DESPISE what the "right-wing Christians" have done to the Republican party. If the Republicans had a pair, they'd tell these idiots to take a hike. Don't they realize that most Americans have a bad taste for mixing religion and public policy? Smith calling this thing "Red State" is a bad idea. Good title, but bad idea. He likes the controversy but will alienate a bunch of people and/or theaters from seeing/screening it. All that being said, I'm not against people of faith or religion even (even though I personally think ALL religions have done more harm than good), but don't push it on me and keep it separate from the state. The people in this movie are a tiny group of whackos, but this is how liberals think ALL conservatives think. I mean, I know not all liberals are socialist, enviromental nut cases that want to have the government in every aspect of our lives, but they ARE out there as well. I've abandoned the Republican party until the religious nuts are out. I'll stick with Libertarian for now. And Smith better redeem himself with this one or he'll be in the M. Night school pretty soon.
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I am a Christian Democrat but appreciate the Republican point of view and think the debate is important. When religion gets injected into politics and government we all lose.
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theres a difference between oh yeah christian and yo bitch christian
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Dec. 24, 2010, 1:50 p.m. CST
Haven't logged in for a while so I'm logging in to say...
by iamnicksaicnsn
that actually looked pretty good! <p> As others have said it really does have that Devil's Rejects, Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake look to it and that doesn't bother me in the slightest. </p>
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"Red State" also refers to the amount of blood that will pour, so it works as a strictly "Horror" themed title.
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http://blo g.m ovie fone.com/2010/12/23/harry-potter-actres s-b eaten-by-fam ily/
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it would be better than the Qur'an. Trust me.
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And I'm totally down for this. Looks like an example of GREAT stylistic and visual growth for Kevin Smith, so I'm interested to see how he fares with a new genre.
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You mean unlike all those other movies from the 90's where Muslims were the villains?
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I give it to Smith as bad as the next guy but I like the look of this. As much as one can judge, this certainly seems interesting, as long as he keeps coming to the plate and swinging I'll keep an eye on the game.
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max johnson, you actually have some sense. socialist democrats, muslim extremists, and chrisitan fundemantilists, are all very scarce and dont represent america, democrats republicans or muslims at all (However the tea party is starting to scare me a litlle) but i think the tea party is more pople who are jus frustrated with the government and dont beleive in what a lot of those nuts say. but yea red state should maybe be named more tea state, but all in all its probably not a good idea to name the movie these things.
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Kevin Smith is just a bad film-maker. I don't know how anyone out of high school can enjoy the shitfests he makes.
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Dec. 24, 2010, 10:33 p.m. CST
Hey henmo171, I'll send you a few bucks if you let me piss up your cornhole.
by Stuntcock Mike
Fuck off.
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Dec. 24, 2010, 10:34 p.m. CST
I didn't pay for Smith's films WHEN I FUCKING LIKED THEM
by Stuntcock Mike
Why start now?
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You are the reason I hate liberals. You preach tolerance but show none. Fuck you and your uninformed, hippy-commune view of the world. Your idea of social justice is that we should steal money from people who work and give it to useless, degenerate scumbags. Jesus would never have been a socialist. The fact that you honestly believe that makes you look like more of a moron. I'm sick of Hollywood's retarded, heavy-handed left-wing bullshit. It's getting old.
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Dec. 25, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST
fareal: Christians wouldn't replace the Constitution with the Bible. We really woudn't.
by GreatOne3
Disappointing to read on the day celebrating Our Lord's birth. There is no "separation of church and state" clause in the 1st Amendment. That phrase came from a letter written by Jefferson years afterwards. And Jefferson's meaning was exactly what the 1st Amendment reads: Congress shall not make law infringing upon someone's right to exercise the religion of their choice; and Congress shall pass no law imposing religion upon other people. This (obviously) means that Congress cannot tell individual citizens what religion they can and cannot worship. It does not mean that all religious displays must be removed from public settings, or that high schoolers can't say prayers at graduation or football games, as has been imposed upon us throught he court system by disgruntled atheists who can't sit quietly by while others pray - because they hate religion so much they want to take it away from the rest of us. If you read the case law, none of those cases ever dealt with a person punished for failing to pray, failing to be a Christian, etc. It was their own intolerance.<p>Are any of you aware that for decades, church services were held in Congress every Sunday? Or that States had the right to declare a "state religion"? Really hurt our nation, I know; thank God we don't have that any more. Remember all the hatred and suffering that resulted (/sarcasm - most of you don't even know these 2 things occurred). Whatever. God bless you all (seriously - Merry Christmas).
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If it's shit or not is yet to be seen. The fact that he put up his own money to make a film shockingly dissimilar from anything he's done before is ballsy at the least. Everyone who ever said smith "only rehashes his old material" got their wish. Balls. Giant swinging veined granite balls.
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I'm all for Kevin Smith doing something different. Unless it's a romantic comedy or buddy cop film.
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oh how cute, hes still an aspiring filmmaker trying to make it in showbiz
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That doesn't fucking work. Fail, try again.
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Sorry henmo...
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- 2011 = -14
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He's an established filmmaker who is taking risks, and yes with his own money. I would like to see more risk taken, just like everyone else. If you don't... I hope you enjoyed seeing "little Fockers" 3 times this weekend.
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Tolstoy was a christian-anarchist.
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the only risk this guy ever took was a diet plan
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please
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You're right, there should be prayer at graduation, and high school functions. Now do you want there to be one all-encompassing prayer that accommodates devout Jews, Muslims, Catholics, Sikhs, Hindus, and the lot? Or should each religion have it's own segmented time for prayer before the game? Who actually says you can’t pray during graduation, or a football game anyway? I understand there may not be a designated time or place to pray at those events, but if I'm not mistaken, a person can pray essentially anywhere, anytime, regardless of their environs. You want to pray at graduation? Pray at graduation. I can’t imagine anyone would actually stop you from doing so. Generalizing atheists does nothing to strengthen your argument. It is incidental that atheists don’t pray, so it is easy to spin no-prayer-in-school as some atheist agenda. I’ll argue there are many atheists who are just as self-righteous as any given religious zealot, and attempt to impose their will upon others, but I doubt they constitute the majority of non-religious people. Many atheists aren’t really bothered by religion or prayer at all, let alone interested in converting religious people to a non-belief in God. They just don't want prayer or religion imposed upon them, or to be persecuted for their choice to not believe in God. I don’t think anyone has obliged you, or members of Congress, to not pray. No one is forbidding you to pray in school, or at school functions. Schools don’t state, "Stop praying, be an atheist." They're just not supposed to impose the act of prayer upon students. That's in an effort to accommodate all religions, not in spite of them.
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my post disappeared
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How the heck do all the spammers post the URLs and I can't even post a legitimate one? argh... anyway... since the link in the article is dead the real teaser is still up on youtube
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmmnVGyLajw
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I love AICN and I'm glad we moved to the new site engine, but she still be havin some bugs.
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spam-bot
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That guy haired out. I had my own Koran burning, and along with countless other people put it on YouTube. I swear there are more Koran burning videos on YouTube now than cute cat videos.
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Because the composition of these shots is way too good for Kevin Smith. He needs to follow this up with Blue State, which could be exactly like Red State but without the southern accents.
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I've been following Kev via his weekly podcast "Red State of the Union" about this film. I can't recall ever hearing someone SO passionate about a film as Kevin is about Red State. From the cinematography to the performances, everyone who has seen this film (the first full cut was shown at the wrap party), has said it looks NOTHING like a Kevin Smith film, and that every actor brings their level best to every scene. I, for one, have been waiting for the day that Michael Parks finally gets a starring role, and from what I hear, he owns ever scene he is in. I respect Kevin as a filmmaker who is trying to rewrite the rules of making a film. Going against the grain to allow the creative people (set designers, actors, etc.) to actually BE CREATIVE. The way he describes it, it all makes much more sense to hire skillful, talented people and NOT try to curb that skill and talent by studio intervention. Yeah, yeah, I know. I sound like a Smith-lover or a plant. I'm not. I just think it's refreshing that maybe Kevin figured out a better way to make a movie, and I think Red State will be proof of that. Oh, and for truly great insight into filmmaking, check out the "Red State of the Union" podcast. I never knew how insane of a job Assistant Director was until I listened to an episode. It's very educational.
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