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Warner Bros. Just Found 17 New Kubrick-Edited Minutes of 2001 In A Salt Mine!! What??

Published at: Dec. 17, 2010, 3:06 a.m. CST

I am – Hercules!!

Director and visual effects pioneer Doug Trumbull, in Toronto to screen Stanley Kubrick’s “2001: A Space Odyssey” (on which Trumbell labored), had a crazy piece of news for those in attendance.

From a report by “Aries 1B” at eagletransporter.com:

[Trumbull] also informed us that the 17 minutes that Kubrick cut from 2001 shortly after the film's release have been found by Warners in their vault in a salt mine in Kansas. These cut scenes are perfectly preserved in CMY component negatives. Trumbull has no idea of what Warners plans to do with them.

Releasing them on a new “2001” Blu-ray might be a good place to start?

From Wikipedia:

Kubrick filmed several scenes that were deleted from the final film. These include a schoolroom on the moon base—a painting class that included Kubrick's daughters, additional scenes of life on the base, Floyd buying a bush baby from a department store via videophone for his daughter, details about the daily life on Discovery, additional space walks, astronaut Bowman retrieving a spare part from an octagonal corridor, a number of cuts from the Poole murder sequence including the entire space walk preparation and shots of HAL turning off radio contact with Poole—explaining the non sequitur of HAL's response to Bowman's question, and notably a close-up shot of Bowman picking up a slipper during his walk in the alien room—the slipper can still be seen behind him in what was then the next shot. The most notable cut was a 10-minute black-and-white opening sequence featuring interviews with actual scientists, including Freeman Dyson, discussing extraterrestrial life, which Kubrick removed after an early screening for MGM executives. The actual text survives in the book The Making of Kubrick's 2001 by Jerome Agel. If the music intro and outro are included, 29 minutes of film have been excised from the theatrical version.

Though it should never be watched immediately after “The Empire Strikes Back” (as I foolishly did right after the first public Dallas screening of "Empire" back in 1980) “2001” remains one of my all-time favorites. I want to see what Kubrick’s design team put together for those additional scenes on Clavius!

Find all of eagletransporter.com’s story on the matter here.

 

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  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:16 a.m. CST

    by Fortunesfool

    Damn!

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:16 a.m. CST

    Great !

    by Ashen Shugar

    I am curious to know why 2001 should not be seen right after ESB. ESB feels dull, or you just get immensely bored ?

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:17 a.m. CST

    WOW~

    by tristeele

    Finally some cool news!

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:24 a.m. CST

    I want it.

    by MapMan

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:36 a.m. CST

    I'm not really sure

    by judderman

    that 2001 would be a better movie if it were 17 minutes longer, but those extra scenes would be fascinating to see regardless.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:43 a.m. CST

    Kubrick was a hack.

    by kingralphuk

    and you know he took 15,000 takes to get those 29 minutes of shit he disgarded.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:52 a.m. CST

    Idiots can never appreciate genius...

    by John Finnan

    2001 is easily one of the best movies ever made. Any extra footage will make compelling viewing at least once, if it adds nothing to the movie overall.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:55 a.m. CST

    If you can't even spell discarded correctly

    by syn_flood

    your opinion on Kubrick is irrelevant

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:59 a.m. CST

    He only mentions it now??

    by TheIceJ

    It fascinating that scenes exist that the public haven't seen - who knows, maybe they'll make a non-directors cut sometime!

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4:04 a.m. CST

    2001 - Most over rated film in history

    by bongo123

    its an out and out fucking snore fest, im sorry.. but 2001 while an enjoyable flim puts me to sleep everytime, he takes to fucking long on all his shots, now i dont want Bay style edits in all my movies but anytime i watch 2001 i reach for the fast forward button a lot... nah, its a load o shite, much better flicks out there plus FMJ is easily his best work

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4:04 a.m. CST

    This story ran three days ago...

    by justmyluck

    ...on 'The Digital Bits': http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa187.html Stanley Kubrick was known to trash the footage which wasn't used in his final cut, so I do wonder why/how the 2001 material survived. Kubrick never arranged any extras for his films' laserdisc editions, either. The Stanley Kubrick estate did release extras to DVD eventually, like the concept art of floating rocks which looks not so coincidentally like those in "Avatar" (James Cameron did an into for the 2001 2-DVD documentary, after all). To be honest, the self-contained near-perfection of many Kubrick films transcend "extras" if you know what I mean.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4:24 a.m. CST

    Thought this was well known?

    by daglesj

    I've seen the painting scene and a couple of other bits on a TV documentary.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4:32 a.m. CST

    What Would Stanley Have Wanted?

    by Daytripper69

    Upon first reading, I was about ready to write that this is the most significant cinematic find since the discovery of the "lost" Metropolis print. But then I realized... Stanley must have had his reasons to excise those scenes. Do you think the big guy would have wanted us to see these scenes? For the casual viewer, perhaps not. Personally, I would love to have a "branching" feature on a new edition of the dvd/bluray, where the viewer has a choice to watch the "official" version or the extended version.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4:34 a.m. CST

    re: the Douglas Trumbell "2001" documentary

    by Daytripper69

    When is this going to happen? This looks almost as exciting as a "lost" Kubrick movie!

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4:45 a.m. CST

    re: the Douglas Trumbell "2001" documentary

    by justmyluck

    In "The Digital Bits" link I posted earlier, Trumbull was reported to confirm the new 2001 documentary is not happening (you'll have to scroll down the page). http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa187.html

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 5:01 a.m. CST

    One of Kubrick's Cuts Was a Mistake

    by emvan

    and I'd love to see it restored. Details here: http://ericmvan.livejournal.com/860.html BTW, the wikipedia list indiscriminately mixes things Kubrick cut before the theatrical release and things he cut afterwards. The former (e.g., the documentary introduction) would not be among the recently found footage.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 5:06 a.m. CST

    disgarded, discarded...

    by kingralphuk

    lets call the whole thing Hack!

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 5:24 a.m. CST

    "You see...something's going to happen...something wonderful."

    by Master Bruce

    I think this qualifies.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 5:51 a.m. CST

    Awseome!

    by Horgy

    Just what 2001 needs! To be even LONGER!!!<p> 2001 is a remarkable film. Visually it's striking, the themes of aliens influencing evolution, AI taking on a life of its own, danger, paranoia, and the solitude of space are all really well done. Yes, I get the themes. I read the books. I know what the deal with the monolith is, and I know a bunch about the movie, like the Discovery was supposed to go to Saturn, like in the book, but they couldn't get the SFX to look right, etc. The film itself is a piece of art. <p> But like when I go to an art museum, I don't feel the need to stare at any one artwork for 141 minutes, in silence for approximately 130 of those minutes, while everyone tries to explain to me how great it's supposed to be.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 5:55 a.m. CST

    kingralphuk , to put it into simple terms for you...

    by Talkbacker with no name

    Kubrick was great. You are not. He was famously known for being the polar opposite of a hack! haha you fucking goof. It's a joke right? it's gotta be. Nobody is that stupid, surely? The irony is, your trolling is of the highest hackest level. Oh how we laughed.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 5:58 a.m. CST

    bongo123, I'm afraid that's your problem

    by Talkbacker with no name

    not the film. I feel sorry for you that you can't enjoy like the rest of us who love it.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST

    Horgy...

    by maxjohnson1971

    Well said. I agree with you in everything you said. The 2001 BD looks AMAZING and I get all the themes of the movie and the story and all that too. But could we move it along a little here folks? Kubrick did tend to linger a bit too long on some stuff and nowhere is it more evident in 2001. The guy was great, but he could have used an editor with some balls I think. Favorite Kubrick is Lolita, btw.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:11 a.m. CST

    Salt mines

    by spudwas

    I saw a few years ago some after 6pm tv magazine program(every local used to have them), an article on the salt mines in Kansas. Huge place! They store anything and everything there. Just in case of a nuclear attack. One of the guys that ran the place said it could withstand a 20 megaton blast. He also boasted original negatives of films stored there for posterity and safe keeping. Original "Gone With The Wind" negative was an example he used. Hope this info helps.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:11 a.m. CST

    maxjohnson1971, that's because you are a pervert

    by Talkbacker with no name

    It will not be stricken from the record :)

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:28 a.m. CST

    Maxjohnson...

    by Horgy

    I haven't seen Lolita. However, sadly, that movie has enough baggage that I wouldn't say it's my favorite anything, as the talkbacker with no name so eloquently stated. You can't like Lolita without being a pervert, and you can't dislike 2001 without people jumping all over you.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:30 a.m. CST

    I'm guessing that most of you haters out there...

    by Moonwatcher

    were not there when 2001 literally burst out of the screen 42 years ago. I was there, from the beginning, and it was the single biggest leap film ever took. It was MILES ahead of anything that had been previously seen, and it still holds up for anyone who has the patience to experience it - something that the MTV generation probably doesn't appreciate. 2001 is a classic, and Kubrick was a genius. 'Nuff said.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:53 a.m. CST

    I Love 2001, Of Course, I Also Love Tron

    by kevinwillis.net

    I put them in the same category of ponderous sci-fi, although Tron is more science-fantasy. But both movies offend the sensibilities of the Michael Bay/Twilight blow-things-up with vampires ADD crowd. ;) I also love Casablanca. And Gone With The Wind. More slow-moving hackwork to the ADD set.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Checks date... Nope, it's not April Fools' Day.

    by Mr. Pricklepants

    Anyway, this is wonderful news. Would love to see the footage. They could release a new Blu-ray/DVD with the 141 min. cut and a new one that includes the 17 min. of footage they found. Or just put them on the Blu-ray/DVD as deleted scenes.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Also, it's too bad that documentary isn't happening...

    by Mr. Pricklepants

    BTW, what happened to the EDIT function? That was actually an improvement.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Just a coincidence??

    by STUART

    The making of 2001 book and Jerome Agel's name and a few other things pop up here too... http://www.vimeo.com/17631561

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Michael Bays 2001

    by CARTMANEZ

    after defeating Hal 900000 (Dwayne Johnson) in a 15 minute laser blast fight, Bowman (played by Josh Duhamel) sets out the ship and opens fire, ejects and then crashes his spacepod into the monolith and watches it 'splode as he floats about and then opens fire (laser gun in each hand) on the giant evil space baby thats suddenly appeared over earth. He blows that up and then finds another space pod and rescues Dr Frankline Pool (Megan Fox) after she had been floating in space with just enough air-supply to survive. They make it back to the Odyssey and make weightless love to loud rock-music!

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:52 a.m. CST

    re: "Kubrick was a hack."

    by jimmy_009

    says anonymous troll who's never done anything with his own life. I love how when something isn't in the style you enjoy, it's automatically crap and the person who did it is a hack. Kubrick was an actual artist with his own vision that he followed through on. Whether it worked sometimes or didn't, he knew more about film making than 99% of the directors working at the time or since. Which is the definition of a non-hack.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST

    A boring movie made longer?

    by alienindisguise

    No thanks. The only thing I like about this flick is some of the production art. Aside from that, it's just a huge, pretentious turd of a movie.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 8:07 a.m. CST

    I loved the Book

    by shutupfanboy

    I have to see this again like Tron to remember if this was a good film. 2010 is very underrated.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 8:44 a.m. CST

    This salt mine...

    by DimensionsPlural

    ...it didn't have any missing Doctor Who episodes in it by any chance? Otherwise, not interested.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Kevin

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    You've got good taste in films, brother. Seriously. Or--at least--your taste and mine seem to be simpatico.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Kubrick never made a bad movie

    by spidercoz

    Anything he put to film had more art and style and meaning to it than everything that has come out in the last decade. He was one of the last true filmmakers. Even Lolita, which everyone loves to dog, is an excellent film, it's just a stupid, god-awful story. I'd give my left nut to see the original cut of 2001. It remains to this day my all-time favorite film.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 9:06 a.m. CST

    kingralphuk

    by shodan6672

    Go away little, useless troll

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Testing

    by Lobanhaki2

    <blockquote>I wish to quote material. Will this work?</blockquote> <i>I wish to make italics</i> <b>I wish to bold things.</b> <a href="http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47782">I wish to make links.</a> Okay, that over with, this is very interesting news concerning Kubrick. But I don't think it should be integrated into the cut, not without permission from the Kubrick estate. Kubrick wasn't exactly known for handwaving away such interference.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 9:07 a.m. CST

    I guess they don't let us use formatting anymore.

    by Lobanhaki2

    Darn.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 9:11 a.m. CST

    The description of the footage sounds like

    by skimn

    Kubrick illustrating mundane, day-to-day life in the future, with wonderous (for 1969) gadgets that nowadays may look passe. Sure, it would be interesting to look at the footage, but I'm sure it was wisely omitted from the feature film. Its like the "unrated" DVD's that feature extraneous scenes that were wisely cut out in the first place.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Bizarre

    by ByTor

    I get people saying they don't like the film, or they aren't into his style, I suppose. But calling Kubrick a hack suggests, (A) you don't know how to evaluate a film, or (B) you don't know what "hack" means. Like others, I'm not sure that any of this stuff really merits inclusion -- Kubrick almost always cut stuff for a reason -- but as a lover of film in general and Kubrick's films in particular, I still want to see this material quite desperately.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST

    They should make a WikiLeaks for film and leak this puppy! ;)

    by Daytripper69

    But seriously, I'd love to see the original cut, myself. Perhaps they can have reserve a print for very limited viewings, like "Fear and Desire" at the Kodak Museum in Ithaca, NY. And for those purists out there, I can only point out the example of the Beatles Anthology. For devotees I think there's nothing wrong with having alternate versions out there, as long as the original is still in circulation.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 9:36 a.m. CST

    me wanty

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    wow....seriously wow. WANT THIS NOW, along with a real reel of the ORIGNINAL 2001 print. and on of the baypods too.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Oh Good

    by BackwardGalaxy

    So we can be bored for 17 more minutes. Yay.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 10:13 a.m. CST

    As a fan of 2001, this is fantastic news

    by AsimovLives

    I agree with many in here who say that the found fotage should not be included in the movie. If Stanley Kubrick removed them, he had a veru good reason for doing that. I trust Kubrick's judgement about how a movie should be presented. He was a top talent filmmaker, unique and unequaled. But i'd love to see this new found fotage. Should be shown in a DVd or blu-ray as extras. They will be very interesting curios. Can't hardly wait to have a change to see that. As for all those who call stanley Kubrick an hack or claim that 2001 is boring or bad, i don't know if i even should even deign to give a reponse to the words of fools. Anybody who makes such dumb claims will have their movie geek card revoked for life. Anybody who says such barbarities just to sound "kewl" and street and agaisnt the man and look radical and rebel are none such but just a bunch of stupid idiots who don't know what the hell they are saying.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Knobules..did you see it in Cinerama?

    by skimn

    Saw it in Detroit, first run...mind f'n blowing.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 10:24 a.m. CST

    As excited as I am about this...

    by Knuckleduster

    ... it upsets me a bit that every single film has to have an extended cut these days. Soon there won't be a definitive cut of any film left at all. Can you imagine if they did the same with books? <p> "Hey, have you ever read The Old Man and The Sea?" "Which one? The original publishing or the one including the 17 extra pages they found in Hemingway's bin after he died?" <p> Scenes get cut for a reason, as was clearly the case here. Director's Cuts should only ever see the light of day if creative control of a film was unfairly taken from the filmmaker (like, for instance, Payback - Straight Up). <p> 2001 is probably my favourite film ever, and as curious and excited as I am to see this extra footage, the 2001 I know will always be the one and only.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 10:24 a.m. CST

    You still see alot of 2001 in todays movies

    by CARTMANEZ

    Inception (Maurice Fischers death scene)...Tron 2 (Jeff Bridges apartment)...Superman Returns (Superman lifting the kryptonite island into space)...Star Trek 2009 (Enterprise corridors, Kelvin crewmember getting sucked out into space)..Burtons Apes (the pods, "Lt Bowman report to the bridge", interior of the space station wasn’t unlike Discovery, Marky Mark watching videos of his pals like Frank Poole) interestingly the original Apes was out in 68 - the same year as Kubricks 2001..the Burton remake was out in 2001...

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Was hoping it would be the "alien" test footage

    by Bot-Bot

    The effects team shot tons of tests trying to achieve the effect of sentient beings. The only remaining bits in the film are those diamond shapes floating over the traveling colors, if you know what I mean. I'd love to see some of the alternate stargate tests.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Seamless branching

    by Nem_Wan

    This material should only be shown incorporated in the film if you choose a hidden option from the menu.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Project Cancelled - Bummer

    by IamZardoz

    Just read the documentary was cancelled. I wish Trumbull would take another shot at a movie himself, "Silent Running" and "Brainstorm" were both pretty darn good sci-fi movies.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    The salt mine story was "news" ten years ago

    by kabong

    http://www.salon.com/entertainment/movies/feature/2000/10/04/napoleon

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST

    I don't want these minutes added back into the film, but I do want to see them

    by Redhead_Redemption

    Kubrick cut the scenes and since he's dead, no one has the right to reinsert them into some "director's or expanded cut" but I do think these scenes need to be cleaned up and properly released as a special feature on a future bluray

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Spielberg purposely wanted to show the aliens

    by skimn

    at the climax of Close Encounters because Kubrick omitted them in 2001. Although the Rambaldi puppet worked okay, it always bothered me that despite all the backlighting in the world, it still couldn't hide the fact that they were kids stumbling about in what looks to be 5 dollar halloween costumes.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST

    If you are going to hate on 2001 this...

    by BirdieNumNum

    is not a review of the actual film. We are talking about found footage rarely seen. 2001 is a masterpiece a brilliant work of art. To call it slow is like calling a DaVinci slow. I am truly looking forward to seeing any extra footage of this film. I you got to hate don't waste your time. You wont convince anyone otherwise.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST

    what is the deal with the close encounters aliens?

    by UltraTron

    Do they all get as big as that huge one? Are the little ones children and the one that communicates adolescent? Isn't that huge one a different type of anotomy? What's happening?!

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST

    It's not like the film needs to be longer....

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    But holy shit this is cool!

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST

    "the interviews will be shot in high definition!!!"

    by Rupee88

    lol....wgas...that is really reaching and desperately trying to find a way to hype this project.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Best Christmas gift ever!

    by Tug

    Long before 2001 aired on TV for the first time, various still images from the film I came across in a special effects book I had as a kid left a huge influence on me on many levels. It was and still is one of my all-time favorite movies. To me this is one of the best pieces of cinematic news ever, here's hoping Warner releases it on a special edition Blu Ray. Now if they could only find the deleted scenes from The Shining...

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 1:32 p.m. CST

    ricarleite3: "requested his family to burn all the negatives."

    by Billy_D_Williams

    a bit of an oxymoron, no? why wouldn't he just burn them while he was still alive? at least thats what i heard.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Need it

    by Manatee

    Kubrick was a fascinating artist, and I want to see everything he did. On a related note; did anyone see the documentary a few years back called, "Stanley Kubrick's Boxes"? I believe it has been chopped into manageable pieces on YouTube. It is an amazing peek into Kubrick's fevered brain.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST

    yeah because 2001 as it is,wasnt boring enough...

    by jack black

    FACT

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Bushbabies

    by ewokstew

    Rock.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    It was a different world...obviously.

    by dogu4

    I guess it comes as no surprise that most of today's audience has little understanding or appreciation for the impact that 200l (and for that matter even Planet of the Apes) had on people back in '68. First off, it was hyped for at least a year, with full spreads in LIFE or LOOK (or maybe both) magazines. There's nothing like those magazines today and so it's hard to convey the kind of impact those magazines could have...well, maybe some of the tabloid news programs we see on cable but they aren't really equivalent, but the point is that 200l generated interest in a population that was far more focused, and far less distracted, or maybe diluted, that those today. In '68 there were only the 3 Networks...no cable, no HBO. A smattering of PBS..and some local outlets if you were lucky. Landing on the moon was still 2 years away, and the existential threat to the US from a nuclear holocaust was no joke...oh, and PanAm was still a viable airline and not just a nostalgic logo available on retro designed travel bags and t-shirts in S,M,L and XXXL

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 2:49 p.m. CST

    bongo123

    by FleshMachine

    that says much more about you than it does 2001.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Greatest film ever

    by FleshMachine

    IMO

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    2001 is not boring, you are.

    by FleshMachine

    if you think 2001 is "boring", you really have no business critiquing films.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Full Metal K

    by ufoclub1977

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Full Metal Jacket worship...

    by ufoclub1977

    Is misguided or naive in my opinion. That's easily one of his lesser films. We were so pumped to see it on opening day, but were disappointed. It just doesn't have that resonance and addictive mood like his other films. It doesn't have that full on Kubrick energy. The first part also seems to be miming certain aspects of The Shining which is superior and almost perfect. I can watch The Shining anytime, at any part. 2001 has it. If you think it's too boring, then you're just not in the mind set for the film. It's like a meditation.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Can only make it better

    by BossGuy

    Maybe the movie will make more sense. I didn't really understand 2001 until 2010 came out. The extra footage really helped Metropolis.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Please learn what the term "Hack" means.

    by Monolith_Jones

    You can't call someone a hack and then complain that he used too many takes to get what he wanted. A real hack would have done one take and said"good enough" 2001 is one of the few pure film experiences. It uses image and sound in a way that can't be replicated in any other form.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4 p.m. CST

    Boring?

    by smatt584

    Parts of It, I would say are extremely boring. For instance the iconic space flight set to symphony music was overlong and self-indulgent. The rest of the movie, in my opinion, was almost perfect. As for the cut footage, I say anything cut at the studios request should be put back in, anything cut at the directors request should just be a deleted scene extra on the special features. Of course the "directors cut" should always be optional on the bluray.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST

    The COOLEST NEWS THIS SITE EVER POSTED!

    by Proman1984

    I am exctatic over it! Warners release this on Blu Ray now! And get us Barry Lyndon too while you are at it!

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:26 p.m. CST

    For those tahat bag on 2001...

    by Roketopunch

    Learn a little(that's all you need, just a little) bit about film making and come back you morons.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Oops. For those that bag on 2001...

    by Roketopunch

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:29 p.m. CST

    You guys should respect bongo....

    by Roketopunch

    It's not his/her fault that they were born autistic.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Full Metal Jacket is one of Kubrick's lesser efforts

    by Hercules

    but continues to demand our worship.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Douglas Trumbull was pissed at Kubrick for quite some time

    by tritium

    after Kubrick solely accepted the Academy Award for SFX for 2001, and on up through at least 1983, when the following interview of Douglas Trumball was shot:<p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHi2QghwtWc<p> I hope they had some reconciliation before Kubrick passed...but it was a shitty thing for Kubrick to do to Trumbull and the other FX artists on 2001.<p>I wouldn't be at all surprised if Trumbull walked away from the now cancelled 2001 documentary due to friction from Kubrick's estate. I can just see him throwing up his hands and saying "I don't need to deal with this shit".

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Kansas Mine

    by Brian

    I work in the salt industry and actually work in the town where this mine is at. The mine is no longer in operation and a records storage company came in a few years back and leased half of it for a records storage facility. The other half is now a museum where you can pay and take a tour. It ends with a display from the records storage company that includes historical and film memorabilia. Some of the items that were on display when I visited were the Batman, Robin, and Dr. Freeze outfits from Batman and Robin (yes you could see the batnipples), the costumes worn in Taledega Nights, Dorthy from Twister, some old letters from Abe Lincoln, etc. Those were the main things I can remember as it was about three years ago I was down there. The mine is ideal for records storage and a large amount of European governments did the same during WW2. Temperature and humidity do not flucuate year round and of course being 600 - 700 feet underground helps. Anyways the link for the museum is: http://www.undergroundmuseum.org/index.php The link for the records storage company is: http://www.undergroundvaults.com/

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:56 p.m. CST

    re: that 1983 interview with Trumbull

    by Daytripper69

    Ewww. Ouch. For shame, Stanley!

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 8:13 p.m. CST

    the news is false!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    as it turns out they simply found some footage from 2010 space odyssey and got confused.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 9:11 p.m. CST

    2001 refers to the running time

    by ihatetalkbacks

    As a piece of Art 2001 must be a great achievement. Technically it is a great achievement. As a documentary on what life will be like it is an achievement. As a piece of entertainment it falls flat. I feel sorry for HAL having to act against the cold robotic face of Keir Dullea. I have never liked his film making. His over bearing camera work leaves me cold, it drowns out his characters, what there are of them. He is far more interested in lenses, angles and stock than he is about people. People in his films are just a hindrance; some thing that gets in the way of the mis-en-scene. He is the last of the classical hollywood dinosaurs swept away in the 70s... that still kept lumbering on. Still more talented than me though.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Kubrick Was a Genius, But Not Infallible

    by emvan

    How many people saw the original cut in Cinerama and then saw the trimmed version while the original was still fresh in their minds? I did, and I can verify that almost all the cuts that Kubrick did make were good ones, because I was unaware the film had been re-edited and basically didn't notice what was missing. And yes, the trimmed material should be made available for the film's devotees (maybe via seamless branching) but not hyped or billed as anything special. However ... when I saw the film a second time, I was so upset by Kubrick's final cut, a 2:08 trim from Hal's deactivation, that I thought the film had been fucked with by the studio. It was the last cut Kubrick made in his attempt to quicken the film's pace, and it seemed that losing 2:08 of modules extracting and just Bowman breathing on the soundtrack would be a win. But it meant re-synching the deactivation process and Hal's protest to it, and I would go so far as to say that the original scene was essentially ruined. I think a lot of people will agree that the original plays much, much better. I can imagine Kubrick making this final cut at the end of an all-nighter ... and I think he just blew it. Further details in my blog (link in my first post above).

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 1:51 a.m. CST

    2001 refers to the number of inane comments...

    by theKRELL

    made by the vacuous Locke ( Drained Brain) in any one week period on AICN.

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 4:02 a.m. CST

    "Film" is naturally a victim of deterioration, thats why...

    by AshMcQ

    ...I guess they store it in the salt mines, to slow that process. But you can I only slow the process by that much, and so what they doing now is to obtain the material and digitalize it. Of course digital storage also dissolves after a time(Which is why microfilm is still important), but at least you can copy it pretty cheaply and easily.

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 6:44 a.m. CST

    The reason that the vault was in the salt mine

    by jack black

    has something to do with the protection of the film negatives from the humidity?

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 6:45 a.m. CST

    ihatetalkbacks WELL SAID

    by jack black

    exactly what you said mate.

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Horgy and Talkbacker w/ no name...

    by maxjohnson1971

    If you haven't seen Lolita, do yourself a favor and see it. It isn't what you might think. It is VERY funny and how Kubrick and Nabokov got away with some of the material in the movie is beyond me. I'm not talking about any visuals, but all of the little double entendres (spelling?) in the script. Mason was great, Sellers was great, Winters was great... Simply a great great movie. Kubrick did comedy better than he did anything else I think. He never let it get out of hand or silly. Lolita is an example of this. By the way, if you haven't read the book, it was pretty damned funny as well, so it isn't like Kubrick was trying to make light of a guy having an affair with and kidnapping a little girl. And we are ALL perverts!! Har har har.

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Now if you'd had said Blake Edwards was a hack...

    by workshed

    ...I could have agreed. If there's one thing Kubrick was not it's a hack. He thought about every damn frame. My personal opinion is that he never truly recovered from the preparation for Napoleon (and his foolhardy decision to withdraw ACO instead of sticking to his guns).

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Them are fightin' words

    by proevad

    To those who are bad mouthing Kubrick and 2001. Die. I'll allow you to watch one Michael Bay movie of your choosing so you can die happy...but you need to die after that. Ok? Ok.

  • Dec. 19, 2010, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Pink Floyd Echoes

    by eddieVroom

    If you've never done it, frame advance and hold right at the fade of the title "jupiter and beyond infinity". Put on Pink Floyd's Echoes, and resume the video the instant you hear the second "ping". You will get pings on the eyeblinks in the alien room...

  • Dec. 19, 2010, 6 a.m. CST

    Warner Bros.'s movie vault is in......a salt mine?!?!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Why?

  • Dec. 19, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST

    @motoko - probably learned lessons from MGM

    by workshed

    and their terrible vault fires.

  • Dec. 19, 2010, 2:24 p.m. CST

    My God...

    by rxse7en

    It's full of salt.

  • Dec. 19, 2010, 6:11 p.m. CST

    motoko

    by Tristan

    Salt has been used as a preservative long before refrigeration. Must have kept the footage fresh. I suggest rolling things such as blu-ray players, digital cameras, furniture, and children in salt as they will stand the test of time. For those who have no patience for 2001; Less Pepsi, more Tarkovsky.

  • Dec. 20, 2010, 10:54 a.m. CST

    This is a disaster :(

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    The obvious will happen of course. They will hire Spielberg to do the edits back into the movie and then do a limited re-release of the movie in the theaters to milk it. A new Bluray of course will follow. <BR> <BR> He left these clips out for a reason and is dead. They will not respect his vision. Total epic disaster coming.

  • Dec. 20, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    WARNERS ISSUES STATEMENT RE: NEW 2001 FOOTAGE

    by dmohrUSC

    Warners makes an initial statement re: the new 2001 footage: http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/movie-news/wb-say-they-knew-about-2001-a-space-odyssey-lost-footage-have-no-plans-to-release-it.php I'm guessing (and of course hoping) that Warners' holding out won't last too long. Not to mention the millions of cinema enthusiasts who'd be thrilled to see this footage in some form, I have to think that people in the industry like Steven Spielberg and Martin Scorsese who are longtime Kubrick admirers would be approaching Warners re: this footage as if it were the treasure of treasures - which, in terms of movie history, it kind of is.