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STARGATE
UNIVERSE
2009-2011

Published at: Dec. 16, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules!!

Like “Caprica,” “Stargate Universe” will end its run in early 2011.

This ends SciFi/Syfy’s long association with the franchise, which has had at least one series on the channel since 2002.

It pulled nothing but .4s and .5s in the 18-49 demo during its autumn 2010 run.

Find all of Deadline’s story on the matter here.

 

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  • Dec. 16, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Robert Carlyle gotta eat.

    by Mostholy

    Oh well...more time for Mansquito.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Typical. Loved that show.

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    Only Stargate show I ever liked and they can it. Bollocks. Oh and RIP Blake Edwards. That one really hurts. Guy created the movies that made me laugh the hardest in my life. Know its out of place here but until the obit shows, my respects.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Some advice to makers of sci fi shows like this

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    If we wanted to watch tv shows that were mostly just personal drama and ordinary social conflict, we can get that from many other non-scifi shows that do it better.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    When Destiny's destiny turned out to be a yawn

    by tangcameo

    That's probably what killed it. I always thought Destiny would turn out to be heading straight for Earth like a runaway train filled with dynamite. I wonder if Syfy is just trying to get out of the sci-fi business altogether. Like A&E and TLC have done, abandoning their original purpose of being on TV.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Missed opportunity

    by Mike_Hines_Says

    SyFy tried to jam the darkness of BSG into the the light hearted Stargate mold, and ended up with a still-born christmas midget. Stargate is a fun series, and a fun universe to play in. Maybe it's next incarnation will get back the fun that the oter series had. Or maybe SyFy will just fuck up again, which seem to be their MO of late.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Not happy, but not surprised

    by seamusberen

    Like the other Stargate incarnations, this one had a great plot and some pretty good writing, and fine production values. Yet, unlike the others, Stargate Universe simply had bland, boring characters who were so valueless that no one cared whether they lived or died. Most of the characters were in it for themselves, quite selfish, and lacked any sense of nobility. That might pass for gritty and realistic among the cynics but it doesn't work in storytelling. Just who was heroic in this series. I wish SyFy would have given this more of a chance, but it simply wasn't grabbing the audience. It had the same problem as Caprica--nice look, no heart.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST

    It's been boring since day 1

    by mistergreen

    Why expect any different?

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:03 p.m. CST

    What are the best shows left on syfy?

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    Haven? Warehouse 13? They are kind of fun, not great but decent. Herc we could use an article and thread on Being Human.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST

    It took sci-fi 9 years to realize Stargate sucks?

    by MattmanReturns

    Not one of these shows has been worthwhile. Horrendous acting, terrible production values, and derivative writing. I tried multiple times to get into this, and I even temporarily fell for the Stargate Universe hype.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Good Riddance!

    by Keblar

    I'm a long time SG fan and even watched Atlantis, grumbling about it and cursing the whole time, but still I watched. I've been SO damned frustrated that the SG verse FINALLY got a great budget, good art design, and some really solid dramatic actors and performances, only to squander it all with disastrous, predictable writing that systematically plagiarized every single aspect of BSG, right down to coming back from the dead with a remarkably new spacecraft, and the dead lover that can only be seen and heard by the resident morally ambiguous egocentric genius.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST

    taste dioxholsters tears!

    by cool_britannia79

    You've been an annoying cunt on these talkbacks for 2 years, now I laugh long, and hard.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST

    R.I.P. Blake Edwards

    by spidercoz

    finally reunited with Peter Sellers

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST

    So another intelligent Sci Fi show is cancelled

    by Tagomago

    To mattmanreturns - I'd agree SG1 and SG Atlantis were a bit silly but still no dumber than Eureka, Warehouse 13 etc but Universe was actually good quality drama. For a start it had great acting (especially Carlyle) and characters that couldn't be figured out in one episode and it was building an interesting story arc. I'll really miss it - I just hope we get some closure and they don't end it on a cliffhanger.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Sci-fi channel has the worst shit I've ever seen

    by Sardonic

    But then I guess I've been spoiled by stuff like The Wire. Regular TV shows just don't compare anymore.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    well it now free's up Robert Carlyle

    by lostboytexas

    for that Trainspotting sequel thats in the pipeline.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    dioxhoslter: this is what you get for hating on "Walking Dead"

    by MGTHEDJ

    I had to give up watching when Siffy moved it to Tuesdays. And why did they bring it back in the fall to compete with the "Big 4 Networks?" Of course the ratings cratered.-----later----m

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST

    too much fannying around killed it

    by lostboytexas

    they should have mentioned the background radiation storyline early on. maybe we can get a nice comic series out of it or something.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST

    speaking of deaths..

    by emeraldboy

    Blake edwards rip. " if I ever get to hell the last person I want to meet when I get there is peter sellars"...

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST

    SGU was waaaaay better than The Walking Dead

    by lostboytexas

    but alas we are long on the way to TV oblivion. Just cancel Boardwalk Empire, Justified, Modern Family and Californication and I can honestly claim that theres not a single fucking show on TV worthy of my time.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST

    and the Starhate continues...

    by matchesmalone2380

    seriously, anyone who liked this wasn't a fan of the starget series. SGU wasn't fun to watch, it was serious and bland. SG1 lasted 10 seasons because it was fun to watch. The only fans that liked SGU were fans who miss Battlestar Galactica because Caprica was crap. The reason why the rating for SGU dropped is that any fan of the SG1 or Atlantis realized SGU was a mistake.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    What the hell is a stargate ?

    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    what we need is a new StarTrek .... MAKE IT SO .....................

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Seriously?

    by JediWuddayaknow

    What the fuck. The show was just getting REALLY good. Fucking tv...

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    dioxhoslter 1998-2011

    by UGG

    that poor kid's going to kill himself

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Fuck You SyFy!

    by FlameoHotman

    Why do you cancel every show I actually watch and keep all the utter shit shows I don't watch.....

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Glad you gave a TV Show an obit, but Blake Edwards

    by skimn

    remains unmentioned. (I know its coming, I just like to bitch)

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Americans are just too stupid...

    by Timelord-2112

    It was destined (pun intended) to happen...it was written and acted far too well to survive on American television. Bring on more Hollywood Collectibles!!!!!!!!!!

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST

    It Was Not as Good...

    by Karuma

    ...as the other Stargate series, but of course, no modern series of this ilk has ever been very good. "Lost in Space", the movie, horrible. "Voyager"-some good moments but overall, not very good. I guess it's just something about being lost in the huge expanse. What do you show? What do you talk about? And in this case they were just being transported along with the ship. Too bad, really, since Carlyle just found out what the mission of Destiny really was. It would have been nice to see that through for a few years, but knowing the Sci-Fi network, there would have been more side trips to nowhere like "Crusade". In my imagining of the series, I thought they would gain control over the ship and fix the problems with it fairly quickly. After that, who knows? But it would have been better if they hadn't added the Lucien Alliance.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 3:46 p.m. CST

    PISS

    by RYAN REYNOLDS' 3RD TESTICLE

    I really enjoyed this show. It was a bit dreary and depressing, and it needed more likable characters and humor (which they seemed to be addressing lately), but it was a quality show as far as I'm concerned. For those who say it didn't have any decent characters, I'd say that Eli was pretty awesome. And it was moving toward a 'big bad' scenario, which would have been nice. Just needed a Han Solo-type character and more action. Thanks TV-land! Terriers, Rubicon, Caprica and SGU gone. RIP good TV.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 5:12 p.m. CST

    The show sucked

    by RaptorJesus

    Does this really come as a surprise? http://bit.ly/eSlbFJ

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Stargate so long and thanks fer nuthin

    by MattHooper

    Show never really lived up to what was promised anyway. Best to move on, try again.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Could we have something different now?

    by kabong

    No, not "Stargate: The Next Generation." Try buying some scripts, shit-for-brains producers.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Oh, DickHolster, where are you?

    by Rhuragh

    Please join us in this TB. I want to taste your tears. They taste like joy to me.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    kabong

    by Rhuragh

    No no no, kabong, it's Stargate: Voyager.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 5:31 p.m. CST

    ONLY WATCHED IT FOR LOU DIAMOND PHILLIPS (SPL?) AND MING-NA

    by Meadowe

    I liked that it was the more serious of the ones I've seen....then again I only watched it on re-runs on abc so my opinion pretty much meant nada regardless.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST

    And on the plus side...

    by theKRELL

    It will free up a few hours of programming,<p><p>for some more quality wrasslin' shows. Or Ghosts Gone Wild.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST

    All Stargates > All Star Treks

    by UMAGA

    Fucking nerds.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 5:43 p.m. CST

    I couldn't watch it after the terrible (dead?) baby storyline

    by TenThousandBears

    My baby has gone to live with the aliens in another galaxy! Um, no honey - it's in that medical waste bag over there. The only those aliens are gonna do for you is send you a spaceship full of your zombie friends. You're welcome.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST

    They never should have canceled Atlantis.

    by ONeillSG1

    But as many of you guys said already, it looks like SyFy wants out of the Sci-Fi business. They should put a new Stargate series on Showtime, where SG1 started, make it ultra violent and ultra snarky.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Caprica and SGU cancelled due to syfy's ego.

    by ahdvd

    If they hadnt thought they were bigger than they are, and gone up against the major networks, the shows would have gotten MUCH larger ratings. Had they aired them like last season, during the mid-season break when the major networks did not have so much on, this would not be happening. Syfy (stupid fucking morons, it's SCI-FI! - YOU'RE A SCIENCE FICTION CHANNEL. Dumb fucks.)

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Good riddance

    by 9000rpm

    SG-U, like Caprica, and the later seasons of Battlestar Galactica, all tried to stay afloat narrative-wise by relying on absurd, involving, and utterly contrived 'conflicts' between cardboard groupings, like between the military and the administrators. SG-Atlantis was a little earlier and mostly (but not entirely) avoided the shit-stench of this blatant sermonizing. It probably all started when the Hollywood libs/fags/democrats were so distraught over President Bush that everything they worked on became an extension of their us vs them anger. It's really too bad because SG-U could have gone on for at least 5 seasons (like SG-Atlantis) or 10 (like SG-1) but they just completely lost sight of the fact people don't like being lectured to.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 6 p.m. CST

    Exactly...

    by 9000rpm

    correct.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 6:09 p.m. CST

    It was an awful show, not really Stargate...

    by Bill Clay

    From the very first trailers you could tell that SyFy was trying to create a weird mashup between Stargate and Battlestar Galactica. It had the bleak shaky-cam desperation of BSG wrapped around the Stargate mythos. And it didn't satisfy fans of either franchise. SyFy would have been better off letting Stargate Atlantis continue for several more seasons. At the time of it's cancellation, SGA still got better ratings than SGU did.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Projection...

    by Rhuragh

    Like any good conservative, 9000rpm is a master at projection. Clearly evil libruls are the ones with the us vs them complex since, you know, we're the ones who want to fly half way across the world to bomb brown people into the stone age. It's us evil libruls who demonize Muslims, and LGBTQs, and Secular Humanists/Atheists. Yes, we're all about making war on people who don't think _exactly like us_.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 6:20 p.m. CST

    What it needed

    by redshirt

    More of Lt. James in a tank top would have made the show much more watchable.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 6:24 p.m. CST

    what does syfy expect?

    by jon pertwee

    <p>they're a cable channel more often than not buried in the high tens of the dial that rarely shows anything resembling sci-fi. i mean, they had the bourne idendity on the other night, and not long before that james bond. and then there's the wrestling, the mutant shark/gator/octopus/hamster flavour of the month movie. syfy should just give up the ghost and let tcm handle the classic sci-fi and amc handle the modern sci-fi and devote its energies to shit nobody cares about like ghost watchers or haunted mansion/truckstop/outhouse or whatever they call it.</p> <p>that all said i will miss sgu. it was actually a fairly good show that i looked forward too.</p>

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Star Trek Voyager>Stargate Universe......

    by JohnWayneWasGay

    and that not saying much.SGU was boring nuff said.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST

    You have the biggest set of knockers on the set...

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    and yet you never utilized them for ratings??? Shit, you deserved to be cancelled for being dumbasses! Julie Benson would have more than likely show the goods if TPTB wasn't fags. To keep that rack of her underwraps was a fucking travesty!

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST

    I hate SyFy

    by TinkerTIW

    Their programming is all over the place. I loved it when it was SciFi - targeting a distinct (and underserved) audience - until some asshole no doubt decided it was time to "expand the brand." (Believe me, I've been in those meetings.) That's how they wind up with garbage like Smackdown on Friday nights instead of what they should be programming - sci fi series like SGU, Galactica or whatever the fans' preference. I, for one, enjoyed the show - the last I still watched on the network - and am disappointed it won't continue. Bye-bye SGU. And bye-bye Sy-Fy!

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 6:36 p.m. CST

    FUCK

    by Son of a Butch

    FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. That is all.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 6:37 p.m. CST

    I'm okay with that

    by David Cloverfield

    The Creation-Signal hidden in the fabric of the universe (or whatever) sounded like an interesting idea. Too little, too late. SG1 worked becouse of the ridicolous efforts to make all the Flash Gordon shit plausable. It was a series where they could write stuff like "The Russians have a Stargate!" "Attack ships in the Solar System. Get me Norad. We must contact the ASGARD!" into the dialogue and make it awesome. I actually liked how they went all out insane with the various Air Force Starships and the SG1 like decoy TV show sponsored by the government. Giving Stargate a serious tone is like making 2001 Space Odyssey into a comedy-action-adventure. Even if it's not bad, old viewers will hate it, new viewers will be scared away by the title. Also, it's a complete dick move. If you want to make a series about ordinary people trapped on a ship, do it, it's a cool idea. Just have the ship simply beam them up from Earth for mysterious reasons, and leave the Stargate franchise out of it. It needs some rest.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Good...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    Show was one of the WORST things I've ever seen. <p> But it sucks for the people who actually, somehow, LIKED SGU...all ONE of them!!! HAH!

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Also, did SG ever drop the ball and give us humanoid aliens?

    by David Cloverfield

    Like in Star Trek, with some plastic glued to the actor's face? I think every human alien on the show was actually Homo Sapiens living on another world, or a descendant, or controlled by a parasite, or a hybrid, or manufactured to look human... they always tried to have an explanation. Did they ever screw that up?

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Yep...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    The purple goat things, the "Ursini", and the aliens from the Lucien Alliance...all humanoid. Actually, the Lucian Alliance are human. Leave it to SGU to have computer-generated aliens that could have been played by people in suits...

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 7:04 p.m. CST

    FUCK SYFY

    by elgato73

    So are there any "science fiction" series being transmitted on this network anymore? I think right now its down to Eureka, Warehouse 13, and Sanctuary with Being Human, a remake of the BBC series on the way. When its all said and done, Eureka is the only series with science fiction elements; everything else is fantasy. So, we've got a network that was once built on science fiction programming down to one maybe two science fiction series while everything else is fantasy, wrestling or giant crocodile, shark or lobster movies. And all those series I mentioned will be off the air in two years too. I predict in about two years, SyFy will be nothing but a dumping ground for infomercials, repeats of series that have nothing to do with science fiction or fantasy, and wrestling on all five nights. Then they can rename it, the WWE channel which I believe they want to do anyway. When they switched the name of SciFi to SyFy, I knew that this network had ceased to be an outlet for anything to do with science fiction and was working its way to becoming a network built on absolute shit. Truly sad.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 7:07 p.m. CST

    SGU WAS NOT science-fiction

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    It was horrible, shittily-written melodrama that happened to be set on a spaceship. <p> Nobody wants to see two seasons of Robert Carlyle trying to fix the air conditioner.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Never really watched it, but...

    by jazz_mavericks

    ....what the fuck is it with american TV?!?!?!? Why, as a country, do you ever get excited about, and put your faith behind a new tv show? It's like everything you ever make is destined to fail! Firefly, Caprica, Sarah Connor, Flashforward, blah blah blah, the list goes on. It's like, "oh no, not enough people are watching it [yet]" then "CANCEL IT IMMEDIATELY!" Shit, if this was the mentality of all tv executives, we'd never have had all the Monty Python stuff, all the seasons of Red Dwarf, Doctor Who would never have gotten past the first season. Or, am I looking in the wrong direction, and it's just reality shows killing the scripted shows? Not that there is much of a difference. Every week, Herc (is it him?), posts the current ratings for each show, or whatever the fucking benchmark is, and it seems like every time, every show is losing viewers and sliding down. Fringe, Chuck, Smallville, whatever. All good, although never perfect, shows, but still fun to watch! Better than I'm The Weakest Millionaire Celebrity Top Model in Fat Camp watched by Big Brother while I try to become the Next Iron Cheffing Queer Eyed Wife Swapper!!!!! Maybe as a species, we are now hitting a new crescendo of stupidity. Instead of intelligent, fun shows, we have to watch fuckwits try and get 15 mins of fame. It pains me, it really does.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 7:09 p.m. CST

    who cares?

    by JaredP

    as long as fox doesn't cancel fringe i'll be happy this was the weakest of the three stargate shows

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 7:14 p.m. CST

    for the record

    by jameskpolk

    I Like "Eureka" It has characters I like and care about. The sometimes tortured logic of the sci-fi plot is always tempered by a human storyline. That's what people say they like about "Fringe" isn't it?

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 7:17 p.m. CST

    SyFy is quickly becoming irrelevant

    by lv_426

    Seriously. Now that there is no Caprica and no Stargate Universe, I doubt we'll have any science fiction, fantasy, or speculative fiction related content on the channel within a couple years.<P>The part of me that enjoys Stargate and loved Farscap and BSG is annoyed by this, but the part of me that sees the SciFi Channel now calling itself SyFy is kinda relieved, as science fiction doesn't need to be corralled inside a channel that doesn't really seem to respect the genre anymore.<P>Shows like Fringe, The X-Files, Doctor Who, Torchwood, Star Trek, Lost, The Walking Dead, and hopefully HBO's upcoming A Game of Thrones are proof that science fiction, horror, fantasy, and the various sub-genres that cling to them no longer need to be locked in the confines of a low tier cable network anymore.<P>Just think if AMC or HBO did a science fiction show. It would almost be guaranteed to be infinitely better than what is now on SyFy.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 7:19 p.m. CST

    So will they still air the second half of the season ep 11-20?

    by cossack_says_die

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 7:40 p.m. CST

    SYFY Channel what a joke

    by Kalparker

    Seriously, the channel is so bad now. Ever since Bonnie Fuller took over, they turned it from a Sci Fi channel to some mainstream kid channel. Haven.... Eurkea.... Wharehouse 13, just suck. It's as if they changed there demographics to kids younger then 10. At least I know that i will rarely be watching SyFy Channel anymore. Atleast we were able to watch the final episodes of caprica early from Canada.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 7:40 p.m. CST

    HOLLYWOOD TREASURES on SYFY

    by uberman

    I love seeing all the classic memorabilia being found and auctioned off on that show, but they ALWAYS have a big segment dedicated to the merchandise from these utterly terrible SYFY shows mixed in, with the host of HOLLYWOOD TREASURES saying stuff like, "Oh, theres such a HUMONGEOUS COLLECTING MARKET for this stuff. It will fetch TOP DOLLAR$$$! Bear in mind this junk is being mixed in with stuff from the Terminator, Jaws, Rudolf the Reindeer, Lost in Space, Wizard of Oz, Indiana Jones, et et et. It has no business being shown with the iconic stuff they sell. It belongs at GoodWill under the SALE section.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST

    DESTINATION TRUTH on SYFY

    by uberman

    Easily my favorite show on TV. Part travelouge, part comedy, and part mystery. Just a fun show.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 7:50 p.m. CST

    GHOST HUNTERS on SYFY

    by uberman

    This goes for ALL the 'ghost hunting' shows, but the topic here concerns SyFy shows. Am I the only one who thinks the 'EVP' recordings are 99% Bullshit? Typically it goes like this: Ghost hunter dudes enter house of dead ax murderer. They turn on their un-shielded handheld recorders (un shielded because they pick up anything floating on the airwaves ala 'Ghosts!'). They ask a question: 'Did you kill all those people? They then playback the recorder and hear this: "Ssssssssssssshwpop....dddddddddpkjjs0....ppppKOKOKOKOAAAHAH....ckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkksods." My God! The tape actually catches the dead killer saying, "Yes. I did, in fact butcher all those people back in 1912 with a old Sear and Roebuck Axe." Then then play the section back with their 'interpitation' running across the bottom of the screen so your dont 'miss it.' "Ssssssssssssshwpop....dddddddddpkjjs0....ppppKOKOKOKOAAAHAH....ckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkksods." "Yes. I did, in fact butcher all those people back in 1912 with a old Sear and Roebuck Axe."

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 8:01 p.m. CST

    fuck... what a bummer to cap off the day

    by MurderMostFowl

    I wonder if that means it will really be 2012 with the split season or whether this upcoming half season will be it. What a pice of shit SyFy has turned out to be. They need to have some fucking faith. SG:U was pretty good. Yeah it moved slow... not half as slow as Caprica. At least let them shake the show up a bit if you want more action or something. Of course they killed off SG:A stupidly quick as well... just as it was getting good again. Why they let SG-1 go for so damn long after it was past its prime I'll never understand. Fuck you syfy... take your ghost hunters and your least common denominator whoring and mansquito bullshit and die in a fire.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 8:08 p.m. CST

    people actually watch tv on friday nite?

    by alice133

    really? sy fy channel? on friday nite? lol?

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 8:09 p.m. CST

    V, Event, and Fringe are next on chopping block

    by Drath

    Let's face it, sci-fi shows have at best a few seasons before they get cut short. They have to become Lost-level over-hyped bullshit to get a decent run--and even Lost was given a set end-date. The days of 7-year Star Trek shows are an insane distant thing of the past, and all the bean-counters running things now all have balls too raisin-sized to back shows like that any more (and to be fair, the writers all need some Prozac because they confuse depression with gravitas a lot). This latest casualty of the "we've got no clue" siffy era sucks but is not surprising.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Diooooooxxxhooooooollllllssstttttteeeer!!!!!!!!

    by AshokForgiven

    :D

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST

    alice is unware of DVR and torrents...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    Lol!

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST

    And this officially ends...

    by Oldnewbie

    ...MY relationship with the SyFy channel. Finally an intelligent and engrossing show comes out of the Stargate franchise and they cancel it. And I had just forgiven them for Farscape, too!

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Julia Benson is was on that show. (define; Breasts)

    by Psycho_Kenshin

    I have never watched a Stargate show, but I have watched Julia Benson on a Stargate show, I'll follow her wherever she goes!

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Poor Dioxholster...

    by Dlgothv

    Poor bastard will probably shoot up a McDonalds now, and end his pathetic rampage with a shotgun blast to his shriveled cranium...

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 9:49 p.m. CST

    by Barmat

    Agreed

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Apparently the cast learned of this from Twitter

    by GeneralKael

    Fans were sending condolences. Classy of Sci Fi - shouldn't they tell all the cast BEFORE cancelling the show???

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Fuck Dioxholster and fuck SGU

    by slayme

    both - very crappy - yet at times seem to have deepness and a point to them - but in reality neither had either. SG-1 was infinitely better, as are the talkbacks when dioxholster is not around. Oh and fuck SyFy too. Bring back I-Man, Farscape, and Caprica ya wresting-loving, cookin show green-lightin hacks!!!

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 10:33 p.m. CST

    New series...

    by OhioBobcat

    Now would be the time to create the end all be all of Stargate shows. A series with the following based in an SGC on earth Atlantis would be gold: Jack and Woolsey in charge Jennifer and Carson in medical Young, Daniel, Vala, Greer as the team Rodney, Eli, and Rush in research

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 10:34 p.m. CST

    and of course...

    by OhioBobcat

    ... Walter calling out the gate.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 11:01 p.m. CST

    When SciFi Became Siffy.....

    by Real Deal

    They started to move away from science Fiction. It's clear that the network is run by people who have never picked up a science fiction book in their lives! What a shame that the network that held so much promise for us fans of SF went the wrong way after years of looking like a place us fans could hang our hat. SGU was a show that I at first found boring but it grew on me and I looked forward to the only space opera left on tv. I wanted to know what Destiny would find out about that structure in the background radiation of the big bang. I'm guessing now we'll never know! SyFy if you're reading this please put people back in charge of the channel that understand science fiction! Bring the channel back to the station we used to look forward to watching before you drive it into the ground and oblivion! Back to the days of Farscape and BSG and Retro TV and all the stuff you used to show that we lloved to watch. Before it's too late!

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Really good idea

    by SwampDonkey

    One day someone will get the idea of creating a tv channel for Science-Fiction. They could call it the Sci-fi Channel. I think its catchy.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 12:01 a.m. CST

    This Series Was Terrible: The Tone Was Off With The Other Stargate Series

    by Media Messiah

    Stargate Universe was Stargate cyphered through Ron Moore's Galactica. However, the other Stargate series were Star Wars meets Star Trek. Considering that fact, for Stargate Universe to just drop all the fantasy elements from the Stargate continuum, and the humor, and then go all real world serious on us, it just lost continuity in tone that was set by the previous series. It is like doing a spin-off of "Two and A Half Men"...and making it about a guy who beats his wife, with the occasional marital rape--no comedy elements, no studio audience. Of course, they add a hand-held camera to make things a bit more dramatic. Such a change is just too sudden and unnecessarily jarring for an audience that is tuning in to see one thing, but they are force fed another. Stargate Universe, should have been Stargate, as we came to know and love it. If Syfy wanted more Ron Moore style Galactica, they should have just paid him for it. It is called diversification in business. That is simply good business. You don't clone every series you produce, knowing that you can paint yourself into a wall.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 12:18 a.m. CST

    One More Thing........

    by Real Deal

    I'm watching the last episode of SGU right now on On Demand. I feel so sad as I finally started to warm to this series and I think it had finally got it's legs. Some shows take a few seasons to do that ( you may remember the first couple of seasons of STNG. ). SyFy listen you really need to not screw the pooch on this one. How about if it's viewership goes up when it comes back? I'd give it a chance if it does. I really feel for the first time with the last few episodes that this show has great potential. For the record I like Eureka and Warehouse 13. They're lightweight fun. But if that's all you've got it ain't enough. And neither are BSG retreads ( Like Star Wars the second trilogy I already know how it all ends ).

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 12:20 a.m. CST

    I Would Prefer A Firefly Sequel Series

    by Media Messiah

    Instead of the Syfy Channel raiding, and thus, headhunting, the former cast members of Firefly, in order to lure Firefly's audience to watch its other series, by casting some of those former stars of that show, in other Syfy shows--they should have just greenlit a new series version of Firefly--and then seen if there was enough of an audience to give a go on a sequel film to Serenity.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 12:45 a.m. CST

    stargate atlantis

    by prezodent

    i agree with your observation

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Only watched for Carlyle and David Blue.

    by AnnoyYou

    The rest of the cast sucked, especially the insipid faux-Summer Glau and the growly guy who played the captain or whatever. Never warmed up to anyone but Carlyle (I would him read the phone book) and Blue (who was the only really interesting, authentic character). Ming Na just did her usual clenched power woman thing, and the poor man's Katherine Heigl was also highly irritating. In all, no great loss. Carlyle and Blue will end up elsewhere. Ho hum.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Fuck this

    by pushthebuttonmax

    FUCKFUCKFUCK. Eh I knew it was gonna happen anyway, but FUCK.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Eureka is a better show.

    by formerlyknownasHST666

    I am disappointed in Syfy's lack of faith in science-fiction show's They only seem to be interested in taking chances on already established brands. Develop or buy more original shows.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Thank God it's over!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Who cares?

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 2:59 a.m. CST

    Finally this crap is gone.

    by OandA

    You promised us amazing scifi and reimagining the Stargate unverse. You instead delivered the same stupid ass shit. Nothing changed. You have great actors and ran into the groudn with shit writing and shit production values. Did BSG teach you nothing?

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3 a.m. CST

    FIREFLY SUCKED. STOP ASKING FOR IT.

    by OandA

    Seriously worst show ever. it deserved to be canceled. and the movie was effing atrocious.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Oanda - Wrong

    by mayorofsmpleton

    That is all.

  • Aside from the terrible terrible writing, I've rarely seen a set of showrunners treat their audience with such contempt, while at the same time taking them for granted. I guarantee they'll end it on a cliff hanger, because they were just so cock-sure they were getting a third season. "If we write good and compelling stories, you'll watch. And if not, we'll blame you instead of taking responsibility for not writing good and compelling stories."

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:38 a.m. CST

    SLOW BURNER = CANCELLED SERIES

    by raygamma

    All of these types of TV shows suffer from the same thing: Lost, Stargate Universe, and mark my words, The Walking Dead will do it too; They get an ensemble cast, then the writers get too comfortable dragging events out to the absolute limit of the audience's patience. Stargate Universe had a very promising premise, but it quickly became obvious that the drawn-out episodes about lesbian love affairs and the constant popping back to earth for "visits" with loved ones etc,... (sigh)... I mean, come on for fuck's sake, it was promised as a science fiction series, not fucking "Grey's Anatomy". So many wonderful "hard science fiction" ideas out there in the world of novels, but clearly none of the writers of these sorts of TV shows are even fans of science fiction at all. Suggestion to the TV studios making these shows: Get some science fiction fans to write your science fiction TV shows.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:39 a.m. CST

    ot...has anyone here watched misfits?

    by john

    the brit show that heroes shoulda been?

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4 a.m. CST

    SyFy abandoned sci-fi = MTV abandoned music

    by raygamma

    Think about it. When was the last time you heard any music on MTV? It's all about reality shows like fucking "Kendra" or whatever now.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4:29 a.m. CST

    Fuck you syfy

    by GhostofCicero

    You're dead to me.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4:34 a.m. CST

    The finale will end with...

    by Wookie_Weed

    ... everyone sitting in their rooms alone and crying, while b-grade Canadian emo music plays. Seriously, every fucking episode ended that way. Thank the tv gods someone put a bullet in this terminally ill crap.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4:36 a.m. CST

    What next for Battlestar Stargate...

    by Wookie_Weed

    ... and Dr Gaius Rush? Will they make a prequel about a genius 5 year old named Eli?

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4:57 a.m. CST

    SyFy is stocking up with reality TV shows

    by FlandersBum

    Like every other channel. Who needs scripts? They're only more expensive to write and stuff. Although I'm sure some of the so-called 'reality' shows already have scripts to some extent....Destination Truth and Fact or Faked are about as much reality shows as "True Blood".

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Ending

    by Bunnie

    The ending better be bloody good. None of this 'going into the white light noise at the end of the universe' crap either, unless it's RC's character. Let the rest of the poor buggers get home so we can all have some closure and please no 'they were dead all along' rubbish. SG S5 had the grace to not end on cliffie.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:25 a.m. CST

    So sick of haters.....

    by Martin Hogg

    i've been reading the various hater comments on here and on gateworld since SGU began, and i'm soooooooooooooooooo tired of it all, i loved this show, easily surpassed the previous two SG series, If Stargate Atlantis was SG1s "Next Generation", then SGU was it's "Deep Space Nine". Darker, less formulaic, kept you guessing, had character development, tension and conflict, all of which made it incredibly compelling viewing. I'd be willing to bet that a significant portion of the haters really didnt see the best that this show had to offer. How Scifi can keep things like Eureka and Warehouse 13 on the air and cancel SGU is beyond me..... I'm gutted beyond gutted...

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:52 a.m. CST

    As dumb as Warehouse 13 can be, and as fluffy as Eureka can be,

    by John Finnan

    they have one thing going for both of them, over SG:U. Likeable characters.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:05 a.m. CST

    An Open Letter to SyFy (written last week)

    by alanmoore

    Dear SyFy: My name is William Hainline. I'm a 35-year-old science-fiction writer (my first novel is soon to be published by a relatively new small press), computer-science student, and life-long science-fiction/fantasy geek. These two genres of fiction -- and the unique fan communities surrounding them -- are and always have been a major part of my life. I am not trying to be offensive or hateful, but rather simply honest, and as such, some of what I have to say might come across as a bit harsh. Also, for what it's worth, I've been holding back on writing this letter for a while, and not just because of the fact that what I have to say is mostly negative, but also because I know that ultimately, it's more than likely futile; the people at the top who I think need to read this letter probably never will. Let me set the stage. Once upon a time, I, along with millions of my fellow geeks -- as well as many "casual" fans -- regarded your network with great love and affection. Its rebroadcasts of classic SF/F shows (along with innovative original shows like "Farscape") established the network as more than just another cable channel, but something of a pop-cultural phenomenon, not to mention a one-stop-shop for smart and imaginative programming whose quality was a cut above the rest. Self-styled intellectuals like myself are notoriously judgmental people, and we are the hardest audience to win over. At one time, the people in charge of what was then called "Sci-Fi" seemed to understand that. (Like Harlan Ellison, I refuse to use the new "name." By the by, you ought to think about re-airing those "Dominion" segments he once did for the channel, if he will allow it.) Now, what I don't think those in charge of Sci-Fi ever truly understood was the intrinsic ratings-value of a channel whose very name embodied an entire philosophy of storytelling, and whose very moniker guaranteed it untold legions of loyal and dedicated viewers the whole world over, IF it could deliver the goods. If those in charge of the channel ever understood that, they certainly don't seem to now. In a misguided effort to woo more "mainstream" viewers, the channel long ago abandoned anything even resembling the audience whose loyal viewership made it what is today. It also abandoned any pretense of quality, intelligence, or artistic integrity. Instead of classic science-fiction shows, we get cheap monster movies that make Ed Wood look like Cecil B. DeMille. (Those who tune in are not laughing with you; they're laughing at you.) Innovative "new" programming is also scarce; "Battlestar Galactica" is over, and its third season should be a hash lesson in what happens when executives monkey with a show's creative direction. And, thanks to the network's magnificent incompetence at scheduling their shows, "Caprica" -- which held enormous promise, but just needed more time to build an actual audience -- recently died an all-too-quick death. (Note: it's hard for people to watch a show when they never know when it's going to be on.) "Stargate: Universe" and "Eureka" are both great, and are therefore probably next on the chopping block. I know this because they're both high-quality science-fiction dramas that are aimed squarely at intelligent viewers, and your network seems to love chasing them away with a stick. Proof positive of this is your three flavors of "Ghost Hunters." Yeah, that's what people want to see -- a bunch of dumb plumbers bumbling around in the dark with flashlights and video cameras, whispering intently and jumping at each other's shadows. (I keep expecting to hear them announce that they’re going to England to explore the boyhood home of Lord Voldemort.) And oh, I know: "But it gets great ratings!" True, but you'd get even better ratings if you'd air a revered oldie like "Babylon 5" in a primetime weekday slot and made a big promotional deal of it (I know there are licensing, copyright, and ownership issues involved with every property that's aired. But, those can usually be solved with money, negotiations, contracts, and other legal machinations.) The SF/F crowd is known for its slavish loyalty, so think about using that to your advantage. Appeal to them genuinely and they will reward you. And, about the wrestling: If you're going to show me a bunch of grown men in ridiculous costumes, acting out roles in a fictitious story, and fighting each other in weird and unbelievable ways, at least have the decency to put them on another planet. Your name might not "spell" Sci-Fi, but no amount of rebranding will change the fact that that's what you are in people's minds. I understand that you rebranded to "SyFy" to open the network to a broader range of programming and viewers (not to mention the fact that the phrase "Sci-Fi" cannot be trademarked. At least have the good sense to add a hyphen, though . . . currently, it sounds-out the nonsense word "Siffy."). That's just business, and broadening the viewership a logical goal for any profit-making entertainment enterprise. But, in trying to reach a wider audience, you have lost the interest and support of the one audience that would have always been there, out of loyalty, to buoy the network through the rough spots, and that would have supported it with a tightly knit community-response that does not exist in any other viewing demographic. In other words, like any rookie gambler, you sacrificed the smart money for the ever-elusive "big money." And as a consequence, none of the shows ever perform to the ever-increasing expectations of the execs, and so they get canceled, and so more would-be-loyal viewers fade away, and the cycle repeats itself, with the audience getting smaller each time, as more and more people give up on you. And, from an artistic standpoint, your current output is a lot scarier than any strange critter in any Sci-Fi Original Movie. What you have created -- unintentionally -- is a horribly conflicted mishmash of supernatural make-believe and low-IQ drivel, and through guilt-by-association (and from how your channel's name was once pronounced), you have taken the public's impression of "what science-fiction is" and have done your part to turn it into a laughable parody of itself. Your current programming line-up -- though "SG: U" and "Eureka" are excellent exceptions -- is a testament to this. The other dreck on your channel is the sort of stuff that makes intelligent people like myself say, "Let's see what else is on" at best, or at worst, "This is why I don't watch television." Don't get me wrong – myself and many others still have faith in the conceptual premise (and promise) of the network. But, we in the SF fan-community are losing our patience. Give us less wrestling, less supernatural pabulum, and less poorly-written "Original Movie" trash, and instead, give us more of the good stuff, even if it's reruns: Not just the "Star Treks" -- although there's five good series to choose from there -- but also "Farscape", "Babylon 5", "Stargate: SG-1", "Stargate: Atlantis", "Battlestar Galactica" (new and old), "Caprica", "Blake's 7", "Doctor Who", "Torchwood", "X-Files", "Millennium", "Heroes", "The Dresden Files", "Lost", "Outer Limits" (new and old), "Max Headroom", "Twilight Zone" (new and old), "The Adventures of Briscoe County Junior", "Quantum Leap", "Aeon Flux" (and about a million other SF-flavored anime shows), and the list goes on and on. I couldn't even begin to list the possible SF movies both big and small you could air. They range from cult classics like "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai" and "Big Trouble In Little China" to big-name blockbusters like "Lord of the Rings" and "Back to the Future" and the "Matrix" trilogy. The list would go on forever. Does Sci-Fi choose to air these great films, guaranteed to grab an audience every time? No. What do they air instead? "Mansquito." And you wonder why originals like "Caprica" don't get good ratings? It's because your network has ceased trying to reach out and cement a singular, unique audience. Quit trying to compete with the major networks . . . You can’t. You’re a specialty cable channel, so do something special. Appeal to a specific audience. Your network's very name--or at least the word it sounds like-- implies an appeal to one. Too bad its content doesn't. One last issue I have to address is this: I've mentioned that "Caprica" held enormous promise, and that's actually an understatement. It was damn good writing and damn good television, and it never had a chance because the suits upstairs just couldn't help themselves; like the obsessive-compulsives they are, they pushed for ratings that the show -- due to its irregular schedule -- had not yet had a chance to earn, and when they didn't get their way, they stomped their little feet and blamed the show rather than the real culprits -- themselves. Maybe it would've fared better (and maybe "Eureka" would do better, too) if Sci-Fi chose to air more than a half a season at a time. This is the most asinine, money-grubbing, viewer-alienating thing you do, and we, the audience, are smart enough to know that you only do it to maximize your DVD profits and save money on production costs. However, the fact that it's such a transparent money-grab is one of the many things that weaken its effectiveness as a strategy. (And on that subject, the less said the better regarding the obnoxious product-placement early in the second season of "Eureka.") It's simply not worth it -- from an audience perspective -- to invest in a story and characters if we know ahead of time that there's not going to be a timely narrative payoff, or any semblance of continual production, or if we know that the characters are going to just up and vanish on us for long, undetermined stretches of time. Worse still, these long hiatuses your shows mysteriously take are bad for viewer consciousness. How can a show garner or grow an audience if no one knows it exists because it keeps disappearing? And since you cancel so many of your series before their creators have had a chance to finish telling the whole story, nobody has any illusions that you're ever going to finish anything you start -- or, at least, finish it properly -- and so they have no inclination or incentive to invest themselves in anything you do. Bottom-line: A good product, if properly presented, will always make good money. Period. If Sci-Fi can clean up its act and get back to doing what it used to do best -- which is satisfying the appetite of an audience whose hunger for good genre fiction is and always will be ravenous -- then it will make good money, and it will do so consistently. But if it keeps trying to appeal to nothing but the lowest common denominator, then that’s exactly what it will itself become. But, that’s the price you pay when you abandon any individual identity and try to be "just like everyone else," which is the general direction the network is headed. If this keeps up, Sci-Fi will become yet another bland, soulless corporate product, one with no discernible mission or vision or purpose, and one with no real audience to show for it. That's providing, of course, that that very thing hasn't happened already.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:08 a.m. CST

    I hope Diox isn't a postal worker

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:22 a.m. CST

    2002?! That can't be right...

    by blhotz

    Wasn't SG on SHO circa 1996? No way it took 7 years before making it to Syfy... had to be around 1999. Sad day and even sadder actors found out when we did - how classless.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:31 a.m. CST

    @timelord

    by ihatefanboys

    you are absolutely right, americans are dumb. the show was awesome, amazing acting, effects, etc. anything that has words more complicated than "vanessa, my bra is way too tight" or "lets blow shit up" americans minds shut down, or they get distracted by the lights and the quick camera movements. then they get even more distracted when their simple minds see space scenes and they point at the tv and say like a caveman "BSG??" more proof of the sad state of our culture. i love eureka but im more and more convinced people watch because chloe is showing more skin. warehouse 13 is awesome. @the haters. all the stargate series were awesome, dont hate on it because the dialogue and social situations are beyond your dumb brain to process

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:38 a.m. CST

    I will be okay

    by d-o-x

    thanks for your concerns everyone. I've had terrible things happen to me in the past and I always managed to overcome them. So I think I'll be fine. However, all I am is just a fan. This news is not fair to the actors, crew and showrunners who put their best efforts into making one hell of a great sci-fi show. Kudos to all of them. SGU was indeed the quintessential science fiction TV show that we sadly don't see anymore in this day and age.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:54 a.m. CST

    too bad

    by MrShootist

    Canceled: Just as it was starting to unsuck.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Doctor, robot, boy genius

    by MrShootist

    Was I wrong to think, that after all this time, a story, about a Machiavellian Doctor (Rush), a du ex machina Robot (Chloe) and a lost, little boy genius (Ely), had died with Irwin Allen and Lost in Space?

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Don't like the new posting format.

    by MrShootist

    But I'll adapt. "Dear sweet Penny. Oh, the pain" - Zachary Smith

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 8:05 a.m. CST

    +1

    by MrShootist

    But it was (just) starting to unsuck itself.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Yay, now there's more room for lame Wrestling

    by Faith

    Because nothing says Science Fiction like a bunch of steroid using freaks, giving birth to hands, and Wrestler's having sex with corpses of someone's ex-girlfriend to get revenge on them. Wait, after typing that out, it does sound like Science Fiction....Anyways, just rename it the Wrestling channel and get it over with.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Syfy is now dead to me

    by d-o-x

    What a joke of a network. Had SGU been on Starz or a similar network it wouldve been popular.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Still better than the movie... but that's not hard.

    by impossibledreamers

    Stargate is a rarity in that after such a bombastic waste of money as a film, the producers could resurrect it into such a long-running established sci-fi series. Whether you care for the spin-offs or not (I really didn't), there some great story arcs, stand alones (the time loop is a personal fave) and great performances. Universe? Meh... But, it is the end of an era bordering on a dynasty.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Re : alanmoore

    by Real Deal

    A great letter and post! It really hits the nail on the head. SyFy are listening? Because if you aren't you're only shooting yourself in the foot. I know many of the execs there will eventually get other jobs because it's just a job but the channel will fade and fail. And that's not only a lost opportunity it's lost revenue. Perhaps their new parent company Comcast will listen.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 9:42 a.m. CST

    SG-1 was on Showtime 1997. so it should be (1997-2011)

    by d-o-x

    The only Sci-fi left now belongs to JJ Abrams. God help us.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 9:49 a.m. CST

    re: alanmoore

    by Setesh

    I'm sorry but I think you're confusing execs that care about science fiction with execs that care about their shareholders. Niche programming doesn't attract braindead channel hopping couch potatoes. And that is where the ratings are, and therefore ad revenue. You never know, though. Riese might be really really good.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    It was just an ok show.

    by obi_juan

    The commincation stones were a rather dumb gimmick and crippled the premise that these people were far far away and alone in a dangerous universe. Lou Diamond Phillips was criminally underused. He brought a lot of force and presence that the rest of the crew (minus Carlyle) didn't posess. It was crazy to leave him on Earth, then device a gimmick to get him on the ship, and then get him off the ship again. And the whole Lucian Alliance plot could have been great if they didn't kill off the leader lady. I didn't have Syfy and watched it all on Hulu. But at the beginning of this season Syfy changed how they show it online so that they put new eps online a month after they aired on tv. I completely stopped watching after that.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Fuck you SYFY you owe us this

    by jtp8000

    Julia Benson's tits

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 11:03 a.m. CST

    setesh

    by hst666

    While, I believe there are points to criticize in alanmoore's letter, the basic premise that their programming choices will lead to an ever-decreasing audience is not unsound. The original movies? What is the point of those? Why not show old science-fiction films? Why not show more old shows?

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 11:10 a.m. CST

    It's astounding that SyFy can't figure out...

    by Rhuragh

    ...a decent business model for showing niche dramatic programming. Their competition, AMC, and FX have figured out how to show niche genre programming while garnering awards, critical buzz, and great DVD sales while not worrying so much about the ratings on any given night. Science-fiction fans are supposed to be the ones who will buy anything if it has their favorite show on it, and SyFy can't figure out how to monetize that outside of direct commercial sales on broadcasts? SyFy's failures to leverage science-fiction fans to support genre content are it's own fault through ignorance and shortsightedness.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    I actually kinda liked it at the end

    by Losers_Game

    So, of course, it gets canceled. Oh, well.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 11:27 a.m. CST

    I will miss Elyse Levesque

    by Norm

    One of the hottest Sci Fi babes ever. Will they wrap up her alien transformation before the show ends? But damn, there goes the last show on SyFy that I watched. I agree the writing was getting bad and the plot becoming tedious. But at least it was a show set in space. I want shows set off world, out having adventures in the galaxy. So with SyFy offering nothing but C grade monster flicks, fairies and ghosts, it's time to turn the channel.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    SYFY first announced the cancellation through Twitter

    by d-o-x

    and the actors learned about it through twitter yesterday. Why would the network do that? Shouldnt the actors know beforehand?

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Watch the rest of the season!

    by d-o-x

    Lets wake Syfy up and show them that they made a mistake!

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Thats retarded

    by Mr_Satan

    Your comment has nothing to do with this show. You might want to rethink your life if you think a TV show has anything to do with Barak Obama. <p>It was about outer space and the way some people cling to hope or let themselves devolve into horrible self centered jack-asses, who'd sooner screw over there fellow man than help them in the most minor way. Politics had nothing to with it.<p> Wait never mind isn't that the right wingers way of thinking. I think so. Look out for number 1 right. By the way the army and every branch teaches us your only as strong as your weakest link. And that says a lot for the state our country is in.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST

    SGU had good and bad points, mostly bad, but...

    by beane2099

    I tried to give the show a chance. I watched about 6 or 7 episodes this season. The one thing I liked about SGU was that they didn't have a bunch of aliens that were all just a bunch of humans who ALL just happened to speak English. I also liked how not every problem was solved by new laien technology they "happened to discover". However, I hated every single character on that ship. They were SOOOOOO boring. That military commander dude (whose name apparently wasn't even important enough for me to remember) was more a reprsentation of the new breed of actor that seems to be all the rage these days (not exactly good looking, but not ugly either, but really needs a hair cut) more than he looked like a military man. And I don't wanna hear, "Well if you WATCHED the show you'd know he was....". Blah Blah Blah. He was still boring. And why did every episode have to end with a stupid music monatge? I'm tired of that bit period; on any show (talking to you CSI). And every episode I saw was yet another "touching tale" of a team trapped on a planet while the rest of the crew scrambles to get them back. That was half the season I saw. But maybe I don't know what makes good television. I'll concede that possibility.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Damn. I really enjoyed this show.

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    I'm going to miss it a lot. Where will I get my space exploration buzz from now?

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Alan, great letter. Too bad nobody cares.

    by impossibledreamers

    At least not the USA Network employees who handle Sy-fy. Bottom line - CASH. Why wrestling? WWE pays. Why Ghosthunters? Low production costs. (And I actually liked the first season or two of the original) Why crappy movies? Almost no overhead. And they get a cut of any DVD sales. They only use a couple of studios and DON'T buy outside scripts (trust me, I found that out the hard way) Sadly, over the years I have numerous folks in the business who, when offered, will take a consistent moderate profit or taking a risk at a bigger one. No one in Hollywood takes chances anymore. Play it safe, dumb it down, get paid. Sy-fy is not an independent network but part of a family of companies that collectively are money makers for their corporate masters. Any chance of getting heard is to show how Sci-Fi fans can be dedicated and moneymakers for the movies and shows that they want to see - especially if those programs can be made on the cheap.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Wha wha wha...

    by SG7

    I actually liked all three incarnations and so did a lot of other folks. But crappy ratings are crappy ratings. I am amused by the pontificating holier than thou asshats ranting about the "bad this and bad that." WTF ever guys. At least you have your wrestling and ghost hunting 24/7 now. Oh and the new BSG warmed over CGI video game cut scene series coming next year.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Good Bye & Good Riddance CrapGate!

    by Arcangel2020

    At last! Those Flying Butt Monkeys in charge of Programming over at the SyFy Channel did something right for a change...they cancelled the Stargate Series which was nothing but crap to begin with...crappy movie (it DID have a pretty good story idea..but ended up being juts pure shit in the end) and an equally crappy series! I can't believe it had been on Sci-Fi/SyFy since 2002! One of my biggest pet peeves about the SyFy Network..besides the stupid name change recently..is it's grossly incosistant ways when it comes to developing worthwhile TV series or programs! For every BSG, Eureka and (updated) Dr. Who the idiots in charge at the network abuse the fans with such shit as StarGate or Ghost Hunters and WWE Wrestling as well as producing pure unadulturated steaming piles of dog/horse/cow shit under the title of "Made for SyFy Original Movie" I have long been a proponent of and have often suggested that the parent company that owns SyFy Network fire the person or people responsible for programming and hire a true Sci-Fi Fan who knows what science fiction is all about and really loves the genre. Someone who appreciates both the old classics as well as the new stuff and can actually make a decision to green-light tv shows that would make viewers happy and develop a network that is worthy of the name. Maybe now that the network has finally cancelled Crapgate they will focus and use the money for something decent and worthwhile to watch? Then again...I am NOT holding my breath...

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST

    alanmoore: Siffy is now owned by Comcast

    by MGTHEDJ

    Well, unofficially, but they are making the day-to-day decisions. Also the new business model is to only run things the parent company owns.Why all the James Bond films on Siffy? Comcast is a co-owner of MGM/UA. Another problem for Siffy in this post-2003 world is there are not a lot of great Science Fiction and Fantasy movies and TV shows owned by MGM. UA, NBC, or Universal. Most of the good stuff was made by Paramount (Star Trek and Indy) which owns Spike TV, Time Warner (LotR, Matrix, Batman) who own TNT, TCM, HBO, and Cartoon Network, and BBC (Blake's 7, Doctor Who, Torchwood, Ultraviolet-the miniseries about vamps in modern day London with Idris Elba) who have BBC America. When any of those companies do sell the broadcast rights to rival companies Comcast is usually outbid, as with Torchwood moving to Starz. And when Comcast does get something cool, they usually put it on Siffy's big sister USA, like the Indy marathon last weekend. As someone said at the top of this TB, HBO, Starz, and AMC are the new homes for good genre shows.-----later----m

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Good. Two dead shows that needed to go.

    by Jeditemple

    Both sucked. Both got axed. SyFy is finally figuring some shit out.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST

    "new BSG warmed over CGI video game cut scene series"

    by d-o-x

    that is funny. which reminds me. if AICN gives that crapfest of a new show a talkback every week (they didnt do that for SGU) then i will have to contribute excessively in the only way I know how.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Eh- I liked it more than SG1 and SGA

    by FrodoFraggins

    Those other shows were too lite, with SGA being the "Voyager" of the franchise, which means it really really sucked. SGU had potential but the limitations of the crappy writers kept it from reaching the heights it set for itself.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Oh god no.

    by MikeTheSpike

    Robert Carlyle had to do a Stargate show? That ain't right, man. Has anyone checked on him lately? He doing alright?

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4:06 p.m. CST

    RE: mikethespike

    by d-o-x

    if you had watched SGU you wouldve not said that. It was stellar. Carlyle doing a hardcore sci-fi show was the coolest thing ever.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Mikethespike

    by Rhuragh

    Carlyle was head-and-shoulders above the rest of the cast and the material he had to work with. And that was still taking into account the fact that, like someone said above, he was playing Dr. Gaius Rush.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Baltar was drama queen, Rush is not

    by d-o-x

    Rush is the man, he didnt give a shit about the crew and psychologically manipulated them.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:13 p.m. CST

    I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.

    by MajorFrontbum

    It really was a terrible show, with an extremely poor concept. The writers weren't imaginative enough, to pull off something exciting and compelling, to hold an audiences attention. Time to pack it in fellas...

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Rush was not Baltar

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    Although there were similarities, Rush tended to carefully plan out how to achieve his goals whereas Gaius was prone to panicked decisions. Rush was a much more complex character in my opinion and I'm going to miss him.

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 11:24 p.m. CST

    jtp8000

    by GeneralKael

    Amen Brother. Julia Benson is just...holy shit...

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 11:52 p.m. CST

    What I don't get is that there is definitely a following for Stargate

    by GeneralKael

    At comic con a few years back I was in the room and it was packed for both the SG1 and Atlantis panels - I realize this is a specific audience but that was thousands of people - there must be alot of people who like these shows. What the hell are they doing, pirating it instead of watching it? I download SGU, like I did with Atlantis and SG1 for the last few seasons, from iTunes - does SyFy count the download numbers or are there just way more people pirating it? My concern is whether you like these shows or not, if networks get it in their head that Sci-Fi doesn't pay, they will stop making it and just churn out reality crap. This is reminding me of my childhood of the late 70s early 80s where science fiction shows barely lasted 1 season - max 2 seasons. No network saw it as profitable, and even if it was(such as the original BattleStar Galactica, which had good ratings, won a People's Choice award, and made a profit) they didn't think it was profitable enough compared to sitcoms and soap operas which made several times what was invested. I don't really think it was until Next Generation came out in syndication that Sci-Fi was considered again and it was the cable channels that mainly put it out there(Quantum Leap is the only main network show that I remember lasting any length of time, and it still tried to keep the sci-fi to a minimum - ironically Quantum Leap developed from a plot idea for BSG). I think we are going back to a time of not much sci-fi on the airwaves...

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Show did not know what it wanted to be

    by DougMcKenzie

    Lack of planning by the producers was evident. I watched the Ice World Aliens and the Time anamoly episodes and thought they were going "hard sci-fi", then I saw the Lucian Alliance Episodes and it seemed they wanted to go BSG style action. I watched the resurrection episode recently, saw the last survivor get found by the aliens before he died on the planet.... then found they completely dropped that plot at the start of the next episode.... is that guy still alive or not??? I will miss Carlyle on TV every week. I hope he tries something else on cable... maybe a gritty HBO or Showtime series?

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Eli could have been a cool character too.

    by David Cloverfield

    The whole Mozart/Salieri thing between Eli and Rush was great. There were glimpses of a great character there, but some writers must have been too terrified by the idea of a confident nerd who has his shit together, and made him pine for the jock's girlfriend - like every other goddamn nerd in the history of television. It's like the show had one or two good writers who came up with cool characters and concepts like the "God signal" and the "manufactured planet", and a room full of soulless autmatons terrified of challenging the audiance (as much as Stargate can). And those terrible stone travels back to earth to deal with bland personal drama and soap opera bullshit... They kind of audiance wants to see that and military space adventure? So ill concieved... Not to mention the creepy and confusing body switching technology (those "I look in the mirror there's someone else there, so you know I'm in another body". scenes just broke the flow terribly. Like the director walks into the picture and explains "now Rush controls this random guy on Earth, but he's still played by Carlyle, okay. Yeah, the scenes are awkward as hell, but give us a break, we can't show a abstact concept like personality. Wait, why did we decide to make this a core element to the show...? Doesn't matter. Continue...") Sadly the bad far outweighed the good.

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Terrible spelling

    by David Cloverfield

    I'm looking foward to that edit button.

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Damn shame! Where I am going to get my fix of nilist sci-fi now?

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    Worth successor to BSG. Robert Carlyle was excellent in it. <p>Guess there were just not enough space battles in it

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Show was boring.

    by Ironhelix

    I tried to watch it at the recommendation of my brother, who is a fan of the other Stargate show, but it was just too slow and boring. I'm not saying it needed more action, I am just saying that I didn't care about the characters, or anything that happened to them. After about 5 episodes, I gave up. Couldn't take it any more.

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 12:16 p.m. CST

    I never watch any episodes

    by Brandon

    Still i wish i had. Perhaps Syfy might tried to do book adaptions next. A good one would be the Pandora Star series. That book could easily be a Tv show

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST

    never watched this

    by oisin5199

    but seriously, are there no shows on the air anymore set in space? What happened to space shows?

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Yep, last space show. Was a good 23 years...

    by caseyaramian

    Hope I'm wrong. Fingers crossed for Blood and Chrome...

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 5:06 p.m. CST

    maybe now they can make a show about

    by Phategod2

    Sharktopus. Am I right?

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 7:39 p.m. CST

    You know the one thing I didn't understand.................

    by axcel1

    The producers saw the ratings for season one, knew SGU was moving to tuesdays and that the show would be going up against first-run MAJOR network shows, why didn't they make changes to it to try get Stargate fans back and get the the rating up? Did they care that little about the show? Don't get the wrong idea, I enjoyed watching the show, but, you have to give the people what they want, not what you, (the producers) want.

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Sharktopus in space

    by obi_juan

    Now that would be a good show.

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Giger joining Ridley Scott on Alien Prequel

    by BubbaDestructo

    2 movies being considered.

  • Dec. 19, 2010, 12:33 a.m. CST

    NO WAY IT SGU WAS CANCELLED

    by btc909

    What took them so long? Bring on the Wrasslin!

  • Dec. 19, 2010, 1:54 p.m. CST

    They should actually sell the SYFY Channel...

    by Gremlin517

    to somebody who actually likes and understands science fiction! I mean, for one thing how expensive would it be to gather some of those really old sci-fi teevee series and movies instead of crap nineties shite and wrestling! C'mon!

  • Dec. 19, 2010, 8:15 p.m. CST

    remember the heyday of SciFi Channel?

    by oisin5199

    When Farscape was rocking the tv landscape? And they had the craziness of Lexx? When they had those awesome "I am SciFi" promotions? What ever happened to that channel?

  • Dec. 19, 2010, 11:11 p.m. CST

    re: remember the heyday of SciFi Channel?

    by obi_juan

    And when a "SciFi original movie" meant a miniseries like Dune or Children of Dune, rather than Sharktopus I, II, III.

  • Dec. 20, 2010, 4:50 a.m. CST

    Swear I read that last plug as 'The Princess Uncle'

    by PTSDPete

    And I would quip like, ' What the hell ? ' </p>Cue Jay Leno audience.</p>

  • Dec. 20, 2010, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Damn!!

    by Russman

    I liked that show.

  • Dec. 20, 2010, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Really became a great show.

    by parissun

    People who are saying good riddance have not seen this show lately. I didn't like it when it started but I gave it a second chance via Netflix. Watching the 1st season on a whole made the story a lot more accessible. The second season has really been good and it's sad that we're losing another sci-fi show. What else will Syfy show? They have nothing but ghost shows and infomercials. Oh well, no reason to watch them at all now.

  • Dec. 20, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Starting to think something might be wrong with me

    by 1TrueGod

    Cause every show I've cared about (just about everyone) has been canceled due to several reasons - poor plots, poor ratings or poor network ownership... To name a few... Carnival, Sarah Conner/Terminators, Heroes, Pushing Daises, Caprica, Dollhouse, Firefly, SGU. This list is missing a few but seriously, I'm close to just giving up on TV and sticking to books - at the very least there will be a proper resolution to the story I've decided to dedicate hours to consuming. It's one thing to break up with someone, but when that person is ripped from you, how does one find closure? Fox, SYFY -you are seriously dead to me.. HBO, your not too far behind. I got an idea, let's micro-finance fan fiction for the web. who's in?

  • Dec. 20, 2010, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Re : parissun

    by Real Deal

    You're absolutely right! People seem to forget that ( as I've mentioned ) Star Trek The Next Generation had two really questionable years before they struck gold. Shows now days just don't get the chance to find their legs like they used to. I found SGU boring at first but checked in from time to time. During this year it really began to find it's element. It's a shame it didn't get more of a chance. But few shows do these days.

  • Dec. 20, 2010, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Not really true... TNG struck gold in years one and two.

    by John Finnan

    Skin of Evil was shockingly good at the time, as was the episode where the Romulans came back. Both in season 1. And then season 2 had The Measure of Man, which was fucking brilliant. It also had Q-Who, and introduced the Borg. By season 3, the show had found its stride, and it was top notch virtually every week. There's no way to compare that with SGU, which had yet to hit anything even remotely like gold. Or fools gold.

  • Dec. 20, 2010, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Hey V'Shael

    by Rhuragh

    What happened to your ID?

  • Dec. 21, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST

    The End of SciFi

    by _Maltheus_

    SGU was a God awful show for the first half season. I only continued with it because I heard it was being retooled. I'm glad I did. It's a pretty good show now. Rush alone makes it worth it. And that doctor is insanely hot. This is unfortunate news. If they didn't dick around with it in the beginning, trying to make it a BSG clone, it might have had a shot. The thing is, I've always had at least one show to keep me watching the network. One this show gets canned, that's it for me. I'm not boycotting them, they just don't have anything left for me to watch. Me, a tv-obsessed sci-fi geek. It's like a drug addict passing on a dealer's offerings because they're not up to the standards of huffing paint. But I'm sure this will improve their ratings.