Review

Harry's TRON LEGACY review!!

Published at: Jan. 9, 2011, 3:55 p.m. CST

I live for films like TRON. I really truly do. I remember the sensation that shot through me that as I sat at this computer, 3 years ago, when I stared slackjaw at my computer screen as the first shaky-cam footage of the Comic Con TRON LEGACY test footage was unveiled. I remember hearing that comic con Hall H crowd cheer – and I remember how even though I was well over a 1000 miles from Hall H, I replayed it over and over and over. Called up friends like Merrick… especially Quint, he had been there when it played… He knows how much I love TRON. TRON wasn’t for everybody. It didn’t have the merchadizing legs of STAR WARS. However, there was an audience that saw it, and it affected them forever.

I saw the original TRON in 70mm at the AMERICANA – and I thought that all the effects were made in a computer. I had a computer. Maybe I could do that. Gosh that’d be awesome. I never could make TRON effects on a computer, but last week, I suggested that folks do that… and they did. Quickly. Scarily quickly. That contest is amongst my favorite. Right there with Quint’s Stop Motion animation contest.

Watching Jeff Bridges playing a standup arcade game – that… by itself was a degree of affirmation. I played Stand Up Arcade games, I had the little electronic Football handheld – constantly in my hands… This adventure could happen to me. The idea of being digitized by a laser and taken into a computer… and that inside there were the creative souls of all the users imprinted upon their programs. I wrote programs. Sure, I was programming in BASIC, but I didn’t know any better. TRON and WAR GAMES were seminal films for me. I get that it wasn’t for everyone, but I also felt that lots of folks just couldn’t see the brilliance of TRON.

It wasn’t the lightcycles and the tanks and the recognizers… it wasn’t even the fantasy of our creations carrying a bit of our souls with them. It was the idea that all the computers could be connected. That was a huge idea for my brain to process. This thing in my bedroom, through it, one day, I could be connected to the world. What would I want to say, what adventure would it lead me on. How will this computer change my life. That’s a lot for a movie to take on. The original helped me dream of the world I currently occupy. It’s why I was ready those 14 years ago to create this site. I’d been waiting my whole life with a lot to say and I kinda knew that it’d be with a computer. That’s why I took those typing classes… the keyboard could not be an obstruction between thought and expression. They needed to be effortless. That came from TRON. Alright, so I was a geeky rotund superfreak – already in Boy Scouts and dreaming about computers being IMPORTANT.

What could TRON offer me now that I was 38 years old, kind of found my calling and well… with a lot to think about, beyond heading to the arcade, pumping quarters into TEMPEST while justifying to my little brain that this would somehow mean something when I grew up. It did, it showed as a kid, I had properly identified the coolest stand up arcade game of all time. Giggle. But seriously, what had TRON become.

For one, it became a gargantuan film. Disney spent a mint on TRON LEGACY, we’ve all been seeing the evidence of that in the sheer enormous ever-present marketing scheme for the film… but what was the film going to say. I’d heard through the grapevine that TRON LEGACY wasn’t going to touch any of the modern realities of the computer space – this was a private server, designed by Kevin Flynn, for reasons unknown. I wasn’t sure if I liked that premise. I wanted to know how the programs work with Users constantly communicating through them. Multiple devices, different levels of digital consciousness… what would the enemy be, where would the conflict come from?

Then there was this new guy. This Garrett Hedlund, the son of Flynn… Sam Flynn he was called. He’s got one of those voices that sounds like it was forged with whiskey, cigars and honey. He seemed to be pushing that JIM STARK vibe that Dean nailed so greatly. But was that appropriate for TRON?

Before I get into TRON LEGACY – Let me just say – Hot damn, this movie is cool! TRON LEGACY is tech sexy. It’s so tech fetishistically awesome that I sat on the edge of my seat and smiled like a monkey in banana heaven, tail wagging and eyes bugging. I love the TRON aesthetic. It is just one of those visions of reality that I accept, not as being real, but as something that should be real. I want girls in sleek glow attire, hell – I totally accept that world – it was even glimpsed ever so slightly in BLADE RUNNER with them nifty Neon Tubed Umbrellas (I totally have one of those).

I think TRON, the original was always cool, to me… but TRON LEGACY, this is a whole next level of cool. I love Wendy Carlos’ score, but DAFT PUNK… Jesus, there were whole sequences of this movie where I caught myself rocking to the movie. Daft Punk makes this film have a vibe that I think a shit ton of folks will grok.

The basic storyline has Kevin Flynn disappearing telling his closest and dearest that he was on the verge of a miraculous great whatever, that was gonna change everything. His company, ENCOM, was left without its leader, and like all great companies formed and led by a visionary, when the corporate structure takes over, the company ceases to have heart and vision, and becomes about bottom lines.

Kevin has been gone for 20 years, his son is now 27, having grown up as essentially a cyber-batman that terrorizes his own company to keep it as close to what his father dreamt, without him actually stepping up to take his father’s place. This whole first part isn’t in 3D, but you’re wearing the glasses, the light has been brightened to the same level as the 3D, so that you have a very bright and sharp image, but once Sam hits the Grid – the 3D kicks in, the DAFT PUNK gets to rocking and you know… Jeff Bridges is gonna be on screen soon.

But I wasn’t anxious, I was there with Sam. He gets thrust onto the game grid a lot faster than Flynn did. And these games are more complicated than what we’d seen before – and the music is less dreamy happy, and more… badass. I found myself anxious for each new reveal inside this grid. Once CLU shows up, played by Jeff Bridges plus amazing digital help, I found myself staring at CLU and finding the soul of Flynn missing. It seems to be a tad of purposeful uncanny valley – and it makes CLU disturbing as hell to me. I mean, imagine… this is your father minus any humanity or love. This is your father, around the same age as you – and he wants you dead.

The initial Lightcycle battle is crazy fucking cool. I found the only problem in the light trail action to be… getting caught staring at the trail, while missing the focus of some of the action, but that’s simply because in 3D, I couldn’t help but just stare at the effect. It’s beautiful. It looked like hard ribbon candy – and kind of alive. This was nothing compared to what was to come though. Once Sam finally escapes the clutches of CLU, he finds himself aided upon his quest for his father, and is taken right to him.

This wasn’t the cold face of CLU – this was his dad, some 20 years older – and the film for me began to soar. Bridges plays Flynn as an extension of himself – and it seems, that while Flynn has spent a digital eternity on the grid, he’s still Flynn. I missed this guy. In particular, I’ve always loved fun Jeff Bridges, and I saw this before I saw TRUE GRIT, and the combination of that and this, just made me love Bridges as much as I’ve ever loved the Dude. He has many quotable lines that crack me up, but what I love is that Sam’s impatient quest to get out to finally save his dad… well, he becomes a man possessed. He’d stopped believing in this possibility.

Meanwhile, for 20 years, Bridges has been playing digital chess with his younger self. A program that hasn’t the capacity to know more than what he was programmed. He’s static, never changing, visually or through memory. He was told to create a grid filled with perfection, but perfection as he was programmed to perceive it – and therein lies the rub. We humans, creating intelligence that is meant to govern absolutely… It can get scary, and CLU is hurt by the ever changing FLYNN, the FLYNN that developed a new plan that he discovered on the Grid – the miracle that he told Sam about. The thing he couldn’t have predicted. The key to changing everything. It was perceived a flaw by CLU – and war broke out. Chaos reigns. CLU brings order to the grid. Digital perfection in his programmed vision.

I LOVE THIS STUFF! I’m sorry, I love it whether you call it FOUNTAINHEAD or fucking FRANKENSTEIN. I love that TRON LEGACY is essentially a mad scientist story – and that fucking Jeff Bridges’ FLYNN has turned into the Mad Scientist… but as only Bridges could.

Garrett’s SAM is completely up to the task of being the action lead, Olivia Wilde… damn. Ya know? Damn. In fact all the ladies in their TRON gear and crazy makeup… dreamy. But the thing that really sells this world is DAFT PUNK. It’s why the costumes are cool, why the GRID is cool… it has the pulsating funk of DAFT PUNK – and you’ll either chime in and dream of this digital madness or fight it. Whether you dig the story or not, even the naysayers are going to be blown away by the visuals of the film.

The aerial number that takes place on the race to the I/O tower… I think another 5 viewings are in line, just to attempt to process what I was seeing. It’s visually beyond stunning. Is it perfect? No. It feels like a middle film. Something that’s getting ready to really kick it up even higher. In particular, I could have used more Boxleitner TRON. I really wanted… nay, needed that. But I’m fine.

The word of a TV Series starring Bruce has me giddy. TRON LEGACY – I’ve no idea how it’ll play beyond the core. I am the core, it works wonderfully for me. Far better than I was hoping for. I laughed and cheered throughout – and after the screening, Father Geek, Quint, Merrick and Son Of Merrick were united in gleeful TRON geekery for a full hour… talking about what could happen next. What permanent actions had taken place. What’s around Sam’s neck exactly – and the notion of bringing… well, you should discover some of the questions on your own.

I can’t even predict what Yoko will think. I know she likes the look of the world – and I know she loves her some DAFT PUNK. I also know she loves a lot of the same things as me… but is she geek enough for this? Does it require that? I don’t know. There’s a part of me that seriously wants TRON to belong to a subsection of the world forever, simply out of a geek snobbery position that says in a manic Daffy Duck, “It’s MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE ! MINE!” I don’t need this film to do AVATAR business, that’s Disney.

For me – just standing around with my friends like Merrick & Quint and geeking out over the film, that’s what I wanted to be able to do afterwards. I didn’t want to come out and see that dead stare of “I loathed it” that you get sometimes. Not that I couldn’t handle that, but it’s just way better when you want to do the Maverick / Goose high 5 / low 5 because it fucking kicked ass!

The first TRON was about what a corporation does to things it doesn’t understand or value. In TRON LEGACY, it’s about the artist playing GOD and fucking it all up. Where does it go from here? I don’t know, I hope we get to find out. That’s the only reason it has to succeed, but if not… I’m 100% cool dream chatting with my buddies about what could happen in 20 years when another mad geek genius takes TRON into the chemical synapses of our brains through injection! Cinematic drug cocktails? Sounds right for TRON. However it comes, plug me in and boot it up. I’m a TRON geek for life!

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  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Livia Munn from AOTS is in this!!!!!

    by moorE12

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST

    You might change that mistake before

    by moorE12

    everyone gets in your shit.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Of course I have to make a mistake myself, Olivia

    by moorE12

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST

    A possitive review

    by ihatetalkbacks

    will the world crumble? Seems like it will keep fans of the original happy and maybe a few that have not seen it too.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Harry, wheres your review of...

    by lostboytexas

    BIG TITS ZOMBIE?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Also, I am not sure if you liked the movie or the tech

    by moorE12

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Wait a second...

    by Horgy

    "I could have used more Boxleitner TRON."<p> Does this mean that you would have liked to see Tron in another movie, or did you just give up a bigass spoiler? I'm hoping it's the former. <p> "It feels like a middle film. Something that’s getting ready to really kick it up even higher." <p> oh great... another Matrix Reloaded...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST

    The Matrix has rendered Tron irrelevant

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    Search your heart, Harold, you know this to be true

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Still excited. Daft Punk are Gods.

    by Dharma4

    Can't wait for this! Good review, Harry!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:15 a.m. CST

    The Choppah called you Harold LOL

    by Dharma4

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Tron was The Matrix

    by nyj_et

    before The Matrix WAS The Matrix. Show some respect.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Why No Game of Thrones Coverage?

    by BilboRing

    HBO has tons of scenes and interviews. I piss blood on this site for not covering it more.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    5,000 words of faint praise

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    It's ok, Harry, you don't have to like it. We won't judge you. Except maybe The Judger. He'll judge you.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST

    it's olivia wilde

    by eric haislar

    come on harry! Not Munn.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Game of Thrones has rendered LOTR irrelevant

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    Whoring midgets beat dandy twee hobbits every time

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    The Matrix is everything Tron wanted to be

    by THE_CHOPPAH_STRIKES_BACK

    I respect quality.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Tron came out when Harry was 11

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    I too saw it on the big screen. It was a great movie, but I honestly am not buy Harry's comments about the computer's being connected was the big thing for him unless he saw it on a re-release years later or something. As a kid the light cycles scene was the best in the film hands down. What kid didn't take his frisbee and go into the backyard and play Tron after seeing this. Like I said, just don't see it. Kids that young don't have the depth to enjoy it on the level Harry is mentioning. But yes I agree Tron was a great movie. Sometime later Ebert had it as one of the features in his underappreciated film festival. I loved the movie so much I spent my allowance to buy the paperback. Unfortuately my heart was also crushed by Tron when I asked a girl I like to see the movie with me, and she said no.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:22 a.m. CST

    So it's "Phantom Menace" bad then?

    by UCB Agent1

    This reminds me of Harry's Phantom Menace review. I'll still see this opening night, but consider my expectations lowered.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Digitial Harry

    by Thall_Joben

    There arn't enough pixels in the whole Matrix to pull that one off fat-boy. Plus in that stylishly cool monochrome landscape ginger looks even shiter than usual. x

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:22 a.m. CST

    I can't wait...

    by klytusnotdead

    Thanks Harry.End of line.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:22 a.m. CST

    How in THEE fuck

    by TheOneThatSaysBADMOTHERFUCKER

    do you get Munn mixed up with Wilde? Anyways, I wanna see Tron and True Grit back to back.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Harry likes it...

    by kwisatzhaderach

    and all the other reviews hate it... i wonder who is right?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Is Harry a plant for Disney on this one?

    by chrismata

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:26 a.m. CST

    That was a pretty good review Harry

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Gave us the essence of what you liked without spoiling the story.</p><p>I couldn't possibly be more psyched for this film. When I saw that test footage 3 years ago I replayed it over and over too. That geek roar of applause was a rallying cry for me.</p><p>However....I've been dismayed at the lack of enthusiasm for this film from my friends. I don't know how you can even just see a poster for this film without wetting your fucking pants, but these guys (geeks like me mind you) are pretty "meh" about it. They were frankly more excited for Harry Fucking Potter which I haven't even bothered to see yet.</p><p>So while I hope and dream that this film will do AT LEAST $200M domestic, I fear it may only do half that. And that would REALLY fucking suck because I want MORE TRON!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:26 a.m. CST

    first review?

    by logan1974

    any more reviews out there guys?..looks like the big man is first out the gates.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:29 a.m. CST

    I hope you're right Harry

    by JamesT

    I really want this to be good.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Is it Tron

    by jack Bauer

    So far it sounds nothing like a Tron film. <p> Pumping daft punk score, oh just like the original. Sorry, its sounds bloody awful so far and we know Harry can be brought so the review means nothing to me. <p> Tron should have retained the computer style of its plot and look, sounds like its more like a video for some dodgy Russian club to me..

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:40 a.m. CST

    I'm gonna smoke a huge reefer....

    by Righteous Brother

    and sit back and enjoy the audio and visuals before seeing this. I have to agree with unparanoid_android it is faint praise, might there be a chance this film sucks?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:40 a.m. CST

    What I did on my summer vacation...

    by MyNameisSimon

    By Harry Knowles. I saw Tron it was the coolest movie, then I went to the beach and ate hot dogs. The End.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Tits to Tron - let's talk Game of Thrones!

    by BiggusDickus

    Can't wait for the Mountain vs Red Viper fight!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Ha! So we are revolting?

    by skycrapper

    In talking Game of Thrones over this? I like...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Anyone find it odd....

    by fyrie

    Does anyone else find it odd that it is currently near impossible to watch the original Tron unless you already own a copy? As far as I can tell, no one is offering as a digital download. Netflix doesn't have it in any format, and most retailers do not have any copies in stock.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:48 a.m. CST

    This feels like another "Freddy's back" type of review

    by Redhead_Redemption

    You know the reviews that try and use nostalgia to make a reboot, sequel or whatever sound like it's an awesome movie when it's really just a shit fest.<P> I don't for a second think Harry actually thought this movie was great, but he loved the orginal and will take whatever he can get at this point. Considering most otgher reviews are calling this movie terrible I doubt Harry's review is even remotley acurate concering what on screen, his review is based on the love of the orginal film

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Disney doens't want anyone to see Tron

    by moorE12

    Because they will be bored out of their minds and not go see Tron Legacy.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    A Dunk and Egg movie would be cool, too.

    by BiggusDickus

    The Hedge Knoght would be a fantastic stand-alone two hours, don't you think?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST

    So TRON is in TRON. Good to know.

    by Quake II

    Some people are going to be pissed tat you gave away that "secret". I already assumed he made an appearance. My 9 year old is very excited about this film as am I. I hope it's HIS Star Wars. Someting we can share that isn't aimed primarily at kids. I hope to love this film....

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST

    TRON is a slow plodding behemoth...

    by butterbean

    but they've amped it up for LEGACY, I'm sure. I hope. Still seeing it. Prolly numerous times too Harry.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Knoght? Yarp!

    by BiggusDickus

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Harry, please never type "Giggle" ever again.

    by V'Shael

    It's the singular worst thing about your writing. If you ever had the slightest chance of IMPROVING as a writer, please take this one piece of constructive criticism to heart.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Hell yeah

    by skycrapper

    give me Westeros over the Grid any day of the week. Although I will take the kid to go see Tron Legacy and probably have to shell out about 50 fucking bucks because 3D movies are what's wrong with the world today.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by kevinwillis.net

    What other reviewers? Name one. I'm not doubting you, but this is like the 3rd time I've seen you saying that, but no links, no examples, no names. Who?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10 a.m. CST

    Winter is coming...

    by BiggusDickus

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Here come the haters.....

    by Quake II

    Hate away. Don't see it. Bash it and take a big shit on it. The product will stand on its own. If it's awesome, they will come. If it sucks, it will die a quick death. Your "opinions" mean nothing in the scheme of things. I didn't wait 27 years for a shitty sequel and I doubt Disney would invest 150 million into a bomb.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Win or Die...

    by skycrapper

    i guess that aplies to Tron too.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    @fyrie - Original TRON was shelved by Disney.

    by V'Shael

    I heard this on Hollywood Babylon podcast. Disney were afraid that the original Tron with its cheaper special effects, might make people negatively disposed to seeing this new one. So they've sent the word out to retailers etc.. that if they have any copies of the original Tron, they are to shelve them. They are forbidden to sell them, presumably until the new Tron movie comes out. <br /><br />Ralph Garmin of Hollywood Babylon was desperately trying to find a copy, couldn't, and looked into why not.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Seriously, I Can't Find A Single Review

    by kevinwillis.net

    Other than this one. Who else has reviewed it? Anybody know?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Want an Original Tron?

    by kevinwillis.net

    Break out $50-$70 bucks, you can get it on ebay. Fortunately, I already have it. Word is that the Blu-Ray will come out shortly before or shortly after the DVD for Tron Legacy hits.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST

    good, now I'll wait for a real review

    by spidercoz

    one that doesn't gush like a 12 year old girl

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Even If This Sucked

    by kevinwillis.net

    I'd go see it, just because I have been waiting 28 years to see it. And I'd grit my teeth and enjoy it.<br><br>But I just don't believe that it's going to suck, especially with Bridges and Boxleitner both putting in an appearance. It's gonna be plenty good.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Now, The Main Question Is . . .

    by kevinwillis.net

    Who will be V.I.N.C.E.N.T. in the new Black Hole movie? And will they get someone who sounds like Slim Pickens to do the voice of B.O.B.? That's what I want to know.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:09 a.m. CST

    That's strange, fyrie

    by Sonny_Williams

    I had the DVD of TRON from Netflix back in August. Now, as you said, it's not there. WTF?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    I'm right there with ya Harry...

    by exador

    The first movie affected me in precisely the same way, and I'm more than amped to see this one....Excellent review, as far as i'm concerned....told me what i wanted to know, didn't let loose with the spoilers, and made me excited to see it....thanks Harry...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Netflix Might Have Pulled Tron

    by kevinwillis.net

    Due to demand, or somebody decided not to return it (and now Netflix can't get another), or a request from Disney. Lots of reasons Tron might have evaporated. But you notice as press is done for Legacy, there's not much reference or video from the original film. Interesting . . . I guess they are trying to avoid confusion. "This film is with awesome guys in leather! Not white leotards!"

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:12 a.m. CST

    @kevinwillis.net - some reviews have been pulled.

    by V'Shael

    There was one at <br />http://www.shadowandact.com/?p=34661<br />which was even listed on IMDB (they printed the first paragraph or two) but that has been pulled.<br /><br />Maybe they weren't supposed to release the reviews this early?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Tron was pretty much universally panned when it came out...

    by ihatetalkbacks

    how come those that need a carbon copy of the original use different criteria for these new reviews? The original was deemed a noble failure at best. Not commercially succesful, little merchandise and bemused parents. It did leave a lasting effect on design though. The new film seems like a labour of love to me in many ways. It is a sequel to a 25+ year old film. The original creator is back in an advisory role, Some of the original stars too - would be nice to have David Warner too though. The design has been spot on too - well thought out redesigns and an expanded universe. Lots of people have moaned about a lot of this but I think this film will be a spiritual successor. The films uses the designs and characters rather than reboots. Theme-atically it is a classical interpretation of a computer rather than a theoretical one that would fit far more with todays tech savvy audience. There is a muted colour palete - though this looks like a modern computer display like a Mac - chrome and rounded edges, rather than an 8 bit flat look. Effects are a mix of practical and CG like the original - though now probably tested for their practicality rather than cost. Music is by a well renowned artist(s) that is a mix of electronic and orchestral, and while not ground breaking, at the for front of their field. Personally I think the doom sayers are doing this for their own benefit. They think they own their own childhood films, they dont like change so a negative response still means they can own what is theirs as they can retroactively justify thier response when they actually see the film. They were right - they are smarter than everyone else and the people that dared make a sequel to "their" film. They dont have to share it, they are still protected - in a womb like infantalism

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:14 a.m. CST

    @Sonny_Williams : See explanation above.

    by V'Shael

    It's Disney, who requested it be pulled.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Grok! Grok! Grok!

    by Cheif Brody

    THE DAFT PUNK SCORE GROKS! -Harry Knowles, AICN <p> I can see that quote in the next wave of TRON ads already!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Hey Harry, I need to know...

    by Phimseto

    ...please tell me that don't do something lamely sequel-like and kill Tron the character.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Anyone Who Wants a Tron DVD

    by kevinwillis.net

    And as willing to part with $50-$70 or so can get one on eBay. I'd be willing to sell mine for $500. ;) . . . <br><br>But that's because I'm not that interested in selling it.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST

    "Tron" means "dude", according to Venus Flytrap

    by jawsfan

    Seriously. All the gang members -- the Pros, the New Boys, and the Elected Ones -- they all loved the word "tron" so much they added it to their own gang names. So we have the Protons, the Neutrons, and the Electrons. They all live in a round neighborhood filled with blocks and blocks of NOTHING. The Protons and the Neutrons live in the Nucleus --- that's a Swahili word that means "center" (or else that's a "white lie"). And that, my friends, is the Atom. Now go on back to school, boy, before you upset your mother.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST

    review embargo?

    by logan1974

    Was surprised to see harrys review..thought there was an embargo till sunday!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Um, the original Tron is all over the internet

    by Redhead_Redemption

    Go to any torrent site and there are multiple listings to download the movie<P>Just be carefull though, the first movie is really bad if you haven't seen it since you were a kid, I thought it was so cool back in the mid 80's but I watched it again 2 months ago and i could barley get through it, defenetly a product of it's time and seeing it again might make you realise how bad it really is

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:20 a.m. CST

    All Our Comments Will Disappear

    by kevinwillis.net

    When Harry pulls the review because it wasn't supposed to be posted yet.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Kevin Willis, are you for real? Did you REALLY say that?

    by jawsfan

    You think the movie is gonna be good because Bridges and Boxleitner are in it? Since when does the inclusion of a particular actor make a film good on that merit alone? "So-and-so is in it so it HAS to be good!" Sounds like the logic of an 8 year-old. Or a teenage girl. Or an "American Idol" fan.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:22 a.m. CST

    So which had better 3d harry, avatar or tron legacy?

    by MANNZILLA

    I saw avatar at the navy pier imax 3d in chicago and while the movie was mediocre the 3d was mind blowing. Tron better up the ante...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:24 a.m. CST

    I've Watched The Original Tron

    by kevinwillis.net

    Several times in the past few years. I still love it. Works great. Great quotes. A little bit in the school of ponderous sci-fi, but I love ponderous sci-fi, so i works well for me.<br><Br> Tried it on my oldest daughter. Zero interest. But I still like it.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:24 a.m. CST

    The Character took a shit, I CAN TAKE A SHIT

    by blue_dog

    They drank water, I HAVE A FAUCET!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Its shit most likely

    by jack Bauer

    As Harry likes to lick the crack of every some might say sponsor others might say briber of his reviews then that's why his is up and allowed. <p> Held back reviews mean bad reviews normally, don't want to dent the box office takings.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Tron DVD is out of print?

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    Remember seeing that in sales for a fiver, had i knowm they were going to start selling for silly money on ebay id have picked up a few.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:26 a.m. CST

    I haven't read the review yet

    by RedLeaderStandingBy

    But something tells me it's positive. Let's see.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:26 a.m. CST

    @JawsFan: Yes, I Said That

    by kevinwillis.net

    "You think the movie is gonna be good because Bridges and Boxleitner are in it?" <br><br> Yes, I do. <br><br> Since when does the inclusion of a particular actor make a film good on that merit alone? <br><br>Not always. This time, though, I think so. <br><br>Sounds like the logic of an 8 year-old. Or a teenage girl. Or an "American Idol" fan.<br><br> I cop to being the first two. But an American Idol fan. Where did that come from?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:26 a.m. CST

    MASSIVE BOMB

    by Kain_Bloodstone

    Its currently tracking at a pitiful $35m opening. It will level out at $150m. This will mark a massive blow for James Cameron's fusion 3D technology. If The Hobbit also underperforms it could well mean the end of 3D in movies. The gimmick is almost over, Mr Cameron.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:28 a.m. CST

    RETURN_OF_FETT

    by Pawprint

    Why the fuck do you care how much money this film makes? Will it effect your enjoyment of the film if it doesn't make 200 million?!<p> That's pretty shallow.<p> I'm not in the least bit excited for this anyway; the original nearly sent me to sleep as a child, despite the FX.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Melonman..

    by jack Bauer

    Don't fuck around, say what you think of the walking larder raider... :) <p> "what a fat fucking cunt", gotta be either a fellow brit or aussie..

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Jaws Fan

    by ihatetalkbacks

    The inclusion of the two leads does infere they liked the script and that they are the same characters to watch. There will be a certain retro chic to see them reprise their roles. Jeff Bridges is a very good actor and a pleasure to watch even in bad films. He has done what he likes in his carear as far as I can tell and has never fallen flat. When people are talking about Tron all I can some times imagine Bridges in Lebowski saying "well thats like your opinion man" and also "why all the negativity?"

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Yup

    by RedLeaderStandingBy

    Positive all right.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Disney and Box Office

    by kevinwillis.net

    BTW, Tangled was gonna bomb, too. Right up until opening weekend. Then, it turns out, it wasn't going to bomb. And had the biggest opening weekend of any Disney animated movie ever. Just sayin'.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Box office doesn't equal quality... but,

    by Redhead_Redemption

    This movie isn't gonna make the dough disney is expecting it too.<P> like mentioned above, it'll bottom out around 150 million, and disney will do a reverse Prince Caspian and claim that it was a summer film released at the wrong time of the year

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST

    That's funny & daft punk

    by drturing

    Just yesterday here in aicn talkbacks I mentioned how there wasnt any buzz nearly two weeks after press saw this movie. Kosinski in nymag talking how clu doesn't look right to him. And asap Harry lets out a positive review that seems forcefully enthusiastic. No mention of the heart Pixar supposedly gave this movie. And how is that daft punk score funky when all I've heard of it sounds like hans zimmers batman score with some techno beeps here and there?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:34 a.m. CST

    "Wrong Time of the Year..."

    by Pawprint

    That's another shit excuse that really pisses me off; a shit film is a shit film all year round.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST

    I have a 20th anniversary edition DVD

    by D_T

    ...I bought a few year ago, and I remember it was sort of a big deal to find a copy. I think it was like $20 from Fleabay at the time.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Daft Punk..

    by jack Bauer

    Daft fucking choice more like.... <p> Epic film needs epic score, not a fucking disco soundtrack...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Dissapointed review of soundtrack

    by drturing

    http://m.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/dec/02/daft-punk-tron-legacy-review?cat=music&type=article

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Don't forget avatar embargo lifted

    by drturing

    The second fox pr realized critics loved it for most part

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I predict this the 2010's Spedd Racer

    by RedLeaderStandingBy

    Which is too bad 'cause I wanted to succeed.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Read as much as I could of this review

    by God's Brother

    But stopped as soon as I read 'Giggle.' Whenever Harry writes that it makes me want to vomit for some reason...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    box office

    by ihatetalkbacks

    I thought that talking a films box office up was a marketing strategy to get more people to see it as it creates a feeling every one else will. It probably wont make as much as they want but I think it will perform. I think the DP score has given it some push in older movie goers and those outside America. I hope that it is a success as I want a third one. The story may very well suck but the first one is hardly fantastic. Visually it looks stunning and I feel possitive about it as a few people I have talked to have. Even my Jane Austin loving GF wants to see this and she catagorically HATES every film I like

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Correction: Speed Racer

    by RedLeaderStandingBy

    Fucking public school.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    I'm Fucking Astounded...

    by Pawprint

    ...that studios are actually making 'geek' films anymore and pandering to the 'geek' crowd.<p> Since the 'Snakes on a Plane' mess, respective studios have given 'geeks', 'Kick-Ass', 'Scott Pilgrim', 'Watchmen' and others, and had them all shoved back up their asses by the very demographic they pandered to.<p> Even if 'Tron Legacy' turns out to be good, I think Disney can bend over, spread the cheeks and prepare for a Tron enema.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Oh Harry, how far you've fallen

    by coconutgroves

    "Hot damn, this movie is cool" and "I could have used more Boxleitner TRON". You are giddy over word of a TV show with him? I wonder what the word count for "damn" and "love" is on this review? 5 starts as usual Harry, I can always smell your bullshit reviews from the first sentence.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    You can watch Tron 1 on Youtube in HD

    by Keeper Of Chimps

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Come on, Harrys reviews

    by jack Bauer

    Are not worth the time to read them, if its anything he either has friends in or he likes then the review is tainted as hell to start off with. I will bet that his will be 100% the opposite of what proper reviews give. <p> Sorry Harry old man, the games up

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:44 a.m. CST

    God's Brother...

    by Pawprint

    Me too for some reason - I just find it very fucking unnerving; like a grown man playing at being a Japanese schoolgirl in a chatroom sort of feel to it.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Harry Reviews 2 girls 1 cup

    by jack Bauer

    Says its awesome and made him giggle a lot, he's looking forward to the TV series. <p> He reports the 3d fx are outstanding...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST

    SCOTTPILGRIMFAN....What?

    by Quake II

    No big stars? Jeff Bridges???? Merchandising is bad? The toys are super cool and my son and his friends are already buying stuff. 30 million opening? Dude, Clerks 2 made 30 million its opening weekend. Pretty sure Tron has a bigger following and a wider audience (not to mention a family-friendly PG rating). No women want to see it? My girlfriend and her 13 year old daughter think the lead actor Garret Hedlund is "gorgeous" and both want to see Tron Legacy for him. I'm trying to find even ONE of your "facts" that is even remotely true but I have to give up.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Question for Harry and anyone else who's seen this yet.

    by Lord Elric

    Sounds pretty good, so far. I'm as impressed with the soundtrack yet on it's own, but it may grow on me. I'm curious about the 3d. Is it that good? Any pop out effects? Should one go broke and go with IMAX or will REAL 3d work just as fine? Questions questions...as I eagerly anticipate seeing this.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Wait a minute...

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    You guys are saying that Harry, Our Harry, jumped over the yellow embargo tape and ran his review before he was allowed to?!? <p> Say it isn't SO Harry. <p> <p> <p> WAHOOOOO!!!! Anarchy Rules!! <p> SCREW'EM ALL!! And let the bodies fall where they may! <p> On another note, the 3-D starting on the Grid reminds me of other movies like the Wizard of Oz where the color starts when Dorothy sets foot in Oz. It gives you that "Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas any more." feeling.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:51 a.m. CST

    I think you will find that Harrys review

    by jack Bauer

    was ordained by Disney after they greased his sweaty palm with some trinkets.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Stop Motion Contest

    by brightgeist

    Harry's mentioning of the contest made me look at my entry again... i still think it was pretty good :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6txjB-Lt7s4

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Original Tron DVD's

    by JediTray

    Disney most likely pulled them because just a few weeks ago, director Steven Lisberger said in an interview that he had just finished mastering and tweaking the film for the impending Blu-ray release. He said the process took six weeks and he doesn't know when it will be released.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST

    TRON Blu-ray

    by brightgeist

    will so be mine

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST

    SCOTTPILGRIMFAN

    by damned-dirty-ape

    The soundtrack is actually very good. It's certainly a departure for the average Daft Punk fan but i think they've adjusted to scoring film very well.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST

    L.H - The idea that the imaginary

    by ihatetalkbacks

    becomes hyper real is a neat idea and I think that is whay the CG has been made so realistic so that is can look like that. The luminace being upped in the real world so you can watch it with the glasses is on is very good too. Keep the glasses on while still in 2D so you dont have to look for the cue scene to pop them on.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:58 a.m. CST

    2D and luminance

    by brightgeist

    that doesn't seem to make sense... why don't they simply put the same image on both eyes in the 2D part, then it would also be 2D and they wouldn't have to turn the luminance up

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:03 a.m. CST

    I have not worked with 3D

    by ihatetalkbacks

    but thought it was a luminance issue for each eye to be differenciated... They have made it so the 2D can be watched with the glasses on which is a good idea to me. It means you dont loose the imersion looking for the scene with the 3D glasses is as a cue to wear them.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Faint praise.

    by cinemixtape.com

    I haven't seen the original, and nothing I've heard/seen about this one is convincing me I should. The CGI Bridges in the trailer looks kinda awful.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Just sold my sealed Tron 20th Ann. DVD for $125

    by gruntybear

    With the blu-ray release in the next year practically a give, I just could not pass up the easy money on the standard def. Tron DVD.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:08 a.m. CST

    given, not give

    by gruntybear

    Damned tiny virtual keyboard.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Disney has no idea what "COOL" is. This film sounds bad.

    by Professor_Monster

    Disney makes movies for little kids - THAT'S IT! I don't care about ANYTHING they release because I know the premise will not be executed to it's full extent. Pirates 1,2, 3 are teerrible and I'm betting 4 will be just as bad. I knew this movie was going to fuck itself

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    "more Boxleitner TRON"

    by elsewhere

    So TRON is in this? Cool, but the vibe for this film just seems...off. The only time I was excited about it was when the footage was shown at Comic Con.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    never liked Tron

    by taff

    Never liked the original Tron. Will probably see this one. Hope I like it.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    The scor is very epic

    by Series7

    Its one of the most listenable scores I've ever heard. Usually scores have boring ass filler music. Its funny because its NOT the score you were expecting, but its a solid ass score. I just was expecting some amazaballs crazy ass score. Its epic adn good, its like the most complete score Zimmer has never made.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Did anyone go to Tron night?

    by Series7

    If so was your theater half empty like mine?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    3D

    by brightgeist

    RealD 3D cinema technology uses circularly polarized light to produce stereoscopic image projection. that means, the right and left eye images are projected alternatingly to the screen, and the polarized glasses make sure that you see each image with the according eye. therefore, in order to create a 2D image with glasses on, all they need to do is project the same image twice, then you see the same image with both eyes, which is 2D. no messing with the luminance required.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST

    I think the film will have a huge opening

    by pushthebuttonmax

    Every time I'm at a theater watching the previews, there are always people making snarky comments at all of them. However, when the Tron trailer shows, there is a bunch of excited chattering at the beginning, and when it's over, you can hear a pin drop. Just silence. I think that's always a good sign.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST

    @Pawprint

    by buggerbugger

    "[Harry's "giggle":] like a grown man playing at being a Japanese schoolgirl in a chatroom sort of feel to it." <br> <br> For me, "giggle" associates itself with the mental image of a cute, underage anime character I'd like to anger-fuck until she cries. <br> <br> But that's probably just me, though.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:38 a.m. CST

    7 fuckin paragraphs

    by MyScreenplayWasRejected

    to get to the Tron review.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    giggle

    by brightgeist

    Harry giggling makes me think of Peter Griffin ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxtwZimGA_k

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    "artist playing GOD and fucking it all up"

    by onezeroone

    Now THAT is the best reason to watch this movie, the core story of how an idea with heart and vision can also turn so bad... hope it sucker punches me like BIOSHOCK did.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:54 a.m. CST

    TRON 2.0 the PC game

    by killianx

    was the real sequel!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Scratchmonkey...

    by Pawprint

    Yes, that would also work.<p> Now I need a shower.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Another argument for physical media

    by Lao_Che_Air_Freight

    Disney doesnt want you to see Tron, so they've pulled it everywhere they can...except the one place they can't reach, the copy on my shelf.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST

    There are only two things.............

    by donkey_lasher

    ......certain in life. Death, and Harry loving Tron 2.0<p>

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:59 a.m. CST

    I FUCKING FARTED

    by PleaseWipeMyAss

    WELCOME TO FLAVOR COUNTRY

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST

    JUST ONE QUESTION HARRY: IS CGI YOUNG BOXLEITNER IN THIS?

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST

    SO if they are stuck on a private server....

    by UltraSark

    CLU's goal must be to get to a server that has public access and CLU can essentially become a living 'skynet'..RIGHT????!! And there is going to be some computer type terms in here, something that lets me know Im in a computer and not some sci fi wonderland...RIGHT??? Stay tuned- this lifelong tron fan eagerly awaits praising or destroying this one. My childhoods been raped enough- this better fucking come through.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Jesus Harry, Get to fucking point!

    by cookylamoo

    It's a movie review, not your goddamn autobiography.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Sit right there. Relax. I'm going to put you on the

    by UltraTron

    game grid.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:09 p.m. CST

    CLU TRYING TO GET OUT AND INFECT THE WORLD SOUNDS GREAT

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:10 p.m. CST

    THE FOUNTAINHEAD is a mad scientist story?

    by FlickaPoo

    Ayn Rand's THE FOUNTAINHEAD?<br> <br> <br>?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:10 p.m. CST

    I'M HAPPY TO LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE JEFF BRIDGES IS PROPERLY REVE

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:10 p.m. CST

    JEFF BRIDGES HAS ONE OF THE BEST HEADS OF HAIR

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST

    IN HOLLYWOOD HISTORY

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Tron 2.0 the game on PC

    by UltraSark

    kicked unfathomable ass. Story was epic. Game was fantastic.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:14 p.m. CST

    I said 3 years ago that the best thing that will

    by UltraTron

    come of this will be the Tron blu. Glad they are still holding it out in front of me on a stick. It's the best for last

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    How about commenting on the 3D?

    by Quantumhawk

    Was it really awesome, well-done 3D like Avatar or How to Train Your Dragon? Or was it like Last Airbender or Clash of the Titans?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:20 p.m. CST

    i spoke to a critic last week

    by brabon300

    who believes that in 20 years time, tron will be accepted as one of the top 100 most influential movies in history, as it was the first to use computer fx and because it introduced to general audiences the lexicon of computer geek

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Yeah this review was really tepid....

    by UltraSark

    Spoiler alert my ass, all I got from this was that the red headed round one liked it, and that aint saying much!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Has Bridges had a stroke?

    by jack Bauer

    In the last few films his speech has come across like he's got a fat tongue in his mouth, very like a mild stroke victim.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST

    JEFF BRIDGES HAS ALWAYS HAD A MARBLE MOUTH

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST

    HE GENERATES A LOT OF SALIVA IN THERE

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    I think Harry's "Tron" review is the first anywhere.

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    Some of the Talkbacks here claim all the other reviews of "Tron: Legacy" are bad. I can't find any other reviews. Harry's is the only one I see, currently, online. Where are all these bad reviews you guys are reading?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    "I don’t need this film to do AVATAR business, that’s Disney"

    by teamneedle

    Why do you NEED a film to do anything? what planet are you on that you are part of the film industry?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    So, is this confirmation that TRON the character is NOT in the m

    by Royston Lodge

    Not even a cameo?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST

    by UltraSark...Your plot theory is right

    by Quake II

    Watch the final trailer and the final voiceover is CLU yealling "Out there, is another universe. Out there is our....destiny!"

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST

    ...so, Harry invented the internet before Al Gore?

    by FlickaPoo

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST

    I have zero interest in this.

    by fiester

    But then I found the first Tron silly and forgettable.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST

    ...this is a sequel to SOCIAL NETWORK...right?

    by FlickaPoo

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Royston

    by jack Bauer

    From what I gather there's no Tron in the film apart from Boxlietner in the real world.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Why do some SEEM TO WANT Tron 2 too be BAD?

    by Spacezilla

    What kind of fucking parasitic shit is that? You are on a geek site talking about the next BIG thing for us geeks and HOLY SHIT... the movie actually seems to be a TON OF FUN! Why do some of you want TRON Legacy to be a bad movie? Do you have money riding on it in Vegas or something. Will you personally benefit financially from Tron if it is a bad film? What the fuck is wrong with you? And you know who you are. Maybe you don't, that could be the problem. You are trying to be someone else, someone really despicable instead of being true to yourself. <P> Tron 2 looks great, probably sounds great, and looks really REALLY FUN! I still cannot believe Disney made a sequel and it loooks fantastic and I HOPE IT IS! I am rooting for it. Would you rather have Eat pray love 2 or Tron 2? Me, I'll take Tron 2 any day of the fucking week, and twice on Sunday. Then again, I don't think I am a miserable motherfucker. <P> if you are a Geek at all surely you must be excited as Hell there is a Monster budgeted sequel to fucking Tron and it IS ONLY 15 DAYS AWAY. FUCK YEA FELLOW GEEKS! Come ON!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:32 p.m. CST

    The best thing to come out of this-

    by UltraTron

    Ultra ElecTRONica review: Entire park has been "digitized". Look down and hexagonal grids are projected at your feet. Look up and beams of overhead lights form a park spanning grid. The most advanced projection system ever used covers the entire park with tron world with recognizers flying everywhere and light cycles cruising all over. And basically the entire park is a surround theater culminating in Flynn's arcade. Giant recognizer does everything it does in movie and beams spotlight on you and talks to you if you stand near it. Tron art direction is everywhere. Club from new movie with tron cage dancer chicks spinning disks and definitely take ecstasy. Flynn's Arcade has giant projected recognizers that cruise by in front of the sign rumbling the fucking building. Again- you will want to be on ecstasy. Interior of flynn's better than comic-con with perfect recreation of main flynn's arcade floor. They cheaped on neon recognizer and it's just one big neon sign with no animation like the movie. Its very expensive to do an animated neon sign like that and Disney figures you're lucky to have ever seen any of this shit so enjoy your non-animated neon recognizer you fat,picky,ass-wod of a nerd who is never going to get laid. Neon scenes from classic games like defender,scramble,pacman,asteroids. Home of Tron neon sign over Tron machine. Only 1 Space Paranoids machine(maybe there's only 1 in original film-more were at con). Neon signs all "fritz" out while you're playing and the Home of Tron sign goes nuts while ad for movie blares and sends chills with that badass daft punk trailer cue. Understand- it doesn't matter if the movie sucks- I got to visit the world of tron already and it only exists because of this new movie- this is the greatest advertisement for anything that I've ever seen. You cannot top Disney turning their entire park into an ad for a movie. The robotron machine is deliberately missing legs so it rocks all over the place when you grab the twin sticks. Dooon't stop beliieeevin is blaring and the thing is rocking all over. Drunk chicks are flooding in and they are playing arcade games all around you. It is something out of a nerd wet dream. You can play wii light cycles out front which looks like a must own. The cage dancers are awesome and the musical number is absolutely fucking incredible. The most advanced coke machine on earth is out in front of flynn's. The entire park goes quiet and you see the main digitize sequence that converts the park. You will not see a digitize sequence in the film so this is it. You'll have to wait till I youtube it or get your ass to disney. You will need to play the new game to get all the story as well(do not leave the experience up to the movie by itself, as it will undoubtably fail you.I hope the game doesn't suck and I end up never buying it). Oh and I got free tickets and didn't even have to drive so this was a hassle free thing but for a true fan I'd still say go for it. I think that covers most of it. If you use this review- call me UltraTron.      

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST

    The Reluctant Austinite..They are all full of shit.

    by Quake II

    I spent an hour searcing for a single TRON Legacy review a couple days ago. Nothing but two sentence quotes from the cast screening were online. Period. These 12 year olds on here that claim bad reviews are obviously making them up as NONE exist. Harry's is the first complete Legacy review on the World Wide Web as of 12/2/10.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Spacezilla

    by jack Bauer

    I don't want Tron 2 to be bad, I'm a huge Tron fan from day one BUT I don't like the style of the look, for me the people look like some patrons of a dodgy Russian Vampire sleaze joint just before Blade comes in to kick arse. <p> I do NOT like the score, Daft Punk seems like Daft choice, again, comes back to the idea of that Russian place again, throbbing techno. <p> I however do want to see it to see how much of Tron style remains and to see the FX. Most of what I saw light cycle etc looked OK but I have to say the CG face looked wrong, but that was early FX (I hope), it looked like what it was, CG placed over a face. <p> Oh well...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST

    I also heard that Devin from CHUD...

    by Quake II

    is spreading rumors about how bad the movie is based upon his "spies" that were in the screening a couple weeks ago. One theory is that Devin has a personal vendetta against Disney & Tron for not being invited to the screening and has started a slander campaign against the film. I personally don't care. As I stated above, if it's a really great product it will do well. If it's bad it will fail.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    But is there a scene in the new one as terrible as

    by UltraTron

    when they run out of budget at the end of tron and have to cut the digital monster they had planned? So they just blow-up an existing blue-screen element of Sark and make him Godzilla.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Halfbreedqueen...They don't exist

    by Quake II

    Read my above post. Bad reviews (or any reviews?) You can't link to something that doesn't exist.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Thanks Harry!

    by JudasPriestly

    Can't wait to see it!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:57 p.m. CST

    The "score"

    by Briestro

    I got it last night, and have listened to it a few times. I'm personally disappointed, though I'm sure it works in the context of the film itself. Nothing seriously compositional here, and it won't get too many spins overall. It's just "ok". B

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Yup...

    by thewoodpecker

    The movie sucks. Every time Harry waxes poetic about the vibe or history or what ever of a movie, but only touches on the quality of the film itself, the movie blows.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:01 p.m. CST

    GEEZ, SERBIAN FILM GOT A MORE GENUINELY ENTHUSIASTIC REVIEW

    by BringingSexyBack

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Halfbreedqueen

    by damned-dirty-ape

    The people saying these things are trolls who don't make any form of contribution unless it's negative. People like SCOTTPILGRIMFAN have judged these things before they have even seen them and because they really don't have anything else better to, come to the talkbacks and just talk shit.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:03 p.m. CST

    gruntybear

    by Robber_Button

    What? You're shitting me? <br></br> I have mine. Not sealed but $125? <br></br><br></br> Need to remember which box it's in...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Can we have a bipartisan review

    by estacado1

    Harry is a self proclaimed Tron geek. Even if Olivia Wilde pooped glowing blue shit, he'd still love it.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Oh God. Harry(giggle) likes this...it'll suck

    by scrote

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:11 p.m. CST

    ..."Even if Olivia Wilde pooped glowing blue shit...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...he'd still love it".<P> Estacado1, what do you mean "even if"?<P> What you describe is reason to love TRON LEGACY all by itself.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:11 p.m. CST

    ...damn, melonman beat me to it...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...and his was better.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Disney pay off

    by disfigurehead

    How many free Disney park tickets did Harry get for this? I want a review not War and Peace.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST

    I don't really

    by damned-dirty-ape

    Take Harry's reviews seriously anymore, not because I think he gets paid by whatever company is producing the movie or any shit like that. I think it's just that even though I consider myself a geek, I've realised that I am no where near the level of geek Harry is. I would give anything to see things through his eyes (for a couple of hours) where, from how he describes it, he can just turn a switch and see things with awe and wonder and child like glee where each film is a big adventure. Thus, whenever I read read one of Harry's reviews and get very excited i'm always setting myself up to be dissapointed due to not being able to get in to that frame of mind. Fuck all the people who constantly slag you off Harry, they are just pissed that they can't see films in the pure way that you do. I don't read your reviews for the technical aspect, i read them for the wonder and excitement that flies off the screen.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:18 p.m. CST

    So Has the Embargo been lifted..?

    by D o o d

    If so I'd like to see a collective of reviews. Not that I didn't like Harry's but I'd get a better idea if it's good or crap by reading a few!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:19 p.m. CST

    So a new thing to complain about is the length?

    by ihatetalkbacks

    How can people keep on trying to pan this when many are finding it so enticing. The music may not be to every ones liking... there are scores that I hater but work in a film so I am sure not every one will like that. Others just seem intent to bash this with what ever they can i. the CG is too real. ii. the CG faces are bad - but have been redone since. iii. No Carlos cue. 1v. it might be too long??? v. Hedlund might not be a good actor - its a worry but we have seen 2 second clips so far. vi The light cycles can turn curved corners - even though they did in the original, just not on the grid and these computers are more sophisticated. I am in a possitive mind about this and all this seems to be very nit picky - especially when they HAVE NOT SEEN IT YET! but it is a bad film I will know because I went in with a possitive mind. A negative post may make you look like a decderning critical viewer, with no justification or explanation it makes you look like a sour puss, sour grapes, dead hearted person. There are 3 types of posters here, the jokers the discussers and the doom mongers, and by far the doom mongers are the most unhappy... you guys look unstable at times

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Meanwhile in unreported AICN news

    by SithMenace

    Frank Darabont has fired the entire writing team for The Walking Dead.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    We can also really get down with Disney Taking

    by Spacezilla

    such a gamble and taking so many risks for Tron. Its easy to complain when a studio plays shit easy, and does things cheap and takes things lazy. The Wolverine Origins, for instance or even Indy 4. Tron 2 is a really inspired and daring project. That is fucking cool. This is something to be really excited about. I hope the movie has half the energy the trailers make it out to have.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST

    So Harry's review boils down to...

    by tj donkey show

    ...'I really like it because I'm a hug fan of the original but there's a good chance everyone else may not like it.' Speaks volumes.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST

    I'd pay to see it.

    by Astronut

    olivia in her Tron suit taking a poop.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Gamble...

    by ihatetalkbacks

    I agree - it has no bankable stars certainly for a family film. Its a follow up to a misunderstood original and it has a few choices that polarise people for artistic reasons. I cannot think of a sequel that is comparable. It is a bolt from the blue compaired to other films at the moment. No discernable franchise, non-American score, Ill defined target audience. Have there been any other sequels like this? Maybe Buckaroo Banzai Vs The World Crime League will be next.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST

    less reflection next time please

    by gonkdroid

    the bulk of this review is about the reviewer. waiting for more detail about the movie and less about fond memories.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:35 p.m. CST

    SithMenace

    by D o o d

    Hey man, I just read some of the reports and it turns out that even though he had a writing team, Frank wrote two episodes and the remainder 4 were written by outsourced writers which Frank then refined.<p>Sounds to me like he's fired the writers cause they weren't doing their job or were rubbish!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Yeah, why has Disney pulled the original Tron?

    by SithMenace

    Why don't they want anyone to see it? That seems like a really dumb move right before the sequel comes out, 28 years later. I would think they'd be spreading that movie around everywhere.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Can't wait for Neo to find the Oracle

    by Abominable Snowcone

    and defeat Agent Smith.<p> Oh wait.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:42 p.m. CST

    D o o d

    by SithMenace

    Yeah that's what it sounds like, although this may lead to trouble for him from the writer's union.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:43 p.m. CST

    TRON Legacy running Time: 2 hr. 7 min.

    by Quake II

    And it's rated PG. Hopefully it will be 100x less childish than The Phantom Menace was. Since Lucas isn't at all invloved with Tron Legacy it still has a chance at being amazing. Now where's the Michael Mann director's cut of The Keep on Blu-ray????

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:46 p.m. CST

    IGN MOVIES REVIEW FOR TRON LEGACY!!! 4 Out of 5 STARS!!!

    by Spacezilla

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:46 p.m. CST

    SithMenace

    by D o o d

    You're right about that but to be honest, it's a brave move and if it's true, I'm in Franks corner. Walking Dead is fantastic and I'd like to see more!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:46 p.m. CST

    http://movies.ign.com/articles/113/1137797p1.html

    by Spacezilla

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:46 p.m. CST

    TRON 3

    by Darth_Rambo

    "TRON INFECTION" CLU infects the Internet

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Disney's franchise

    by rigel2100

    I've been a bit surprised at how hard DIsney had been making it known that TRON is a Disney property. Usually they keep their brand close to their animation and other child-friendly movies and put the more serious movies under their other brands. I mean, they have a Disney attraction for this. Despite the PG rating, this sounds like a pretty rich movie, with possible appeal to boys but mostly for young men. It's an interesting move by Disney, who is probably kinda sick of princesses.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST

    I agree D o o d

    by SithMenace

    Hopefully this will benefit the show next season. Can't wait for the finale, but at the same time I'm dreading the end of a too short season.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    The Keep on blu Quake II

    by magnetoelectric

    Dont hold your breath. They just put it on Netflix instant watch.(pretty good Quality) You cant even get this bitch on dvd yet,..Your best bet is to try and snag a laserdisc.FYI you can watch the alternate ending on youtube. FYI 2: I just learned Cronos will be released on instant watch in HD the same day as Blu Ray,dec 7th!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    The Keep on blu Quake II

    by magnetoelectric

    Dont hold your breath. They just put it on Netflix instant watch.(pretty good Quality) You cant even get this bitch on dvd yet,..Your best bet is to try and snag a laserdisc.FYI you can watch the alternate ending on youtube. FYI 2: I just learned Cronos will be released on instant watch in HD the same day as Blu Ray,dec 7th!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Fans of TRON, support EFF

    by rigel2100

    Also, I run a fundraising site called Fanraisers and am seeking the support of TRON fans. http://fanraisers.com was launched just this week to align popular movies with similarly themed real-world causes. This serves as an alternative to the only outlet fans have, buying swag. TRON's themes, the things that have attracted us to the characters, have been similarly embodied by EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation). If you're going to spend $10-$20 on a ticket, why not give at least a buck for something you already believe in. http://fanraisers.com.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Remember "Mesa luved him"

    by SithMenace

    Harry's reaction to Jar Jar. Since then I have never taken any of Harry's reviews seriously.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:06 p.m. CST

    EdRyder....I heard about Netflix. Is it widescreen?

    by Quake II

    I have had a Keep laserdisc-dvd transfer for years now and it looks really good on my Blu-ray player/1080p 42" tv but definately not HD quality. Maybe the Netfix thing will turn more people onto the film and motivate Paramount to release it.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Harry, the world has changed so much...

    by zinc_chameleon

    the idea of single Big Computer changing everything is hopelessly out of date. *Connectivity* changed everything; that's the basic principle the keeps things going, now as Age of Silicon comes to its end. (Moore's Limit has been reached.) The average 11-year-old at the theatre owns a cell phone with more computing power than a room full of VAX machines, circe 1982. I suspect that this move will do 'Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within' numbers, between 20 and 25 million. And that's a bomb...sorry.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Orcus comes from the future for kevinwillis.net

    by orcus

    Seek out the Leather Goddess. That is all. End Communication

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST

    ITs Not Just Harry Who Like Tron 2 SithMenace

    by Spacezilla

    Let go of your hate! There is still good in you. Tron is sounding like a great ride from more then just Harry now. Come aboard SithMenace you are welcome on Light runners any fucking time brother.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Sorry Quake II...

    by scrote

    read an interview with the Sinski who was up at Skywalker ranch doing the sound mix and apparantly Lucas got to see a large chunk of the movie and pronounced it "exciting'. Now THAT speaks fucking volumes. At least Lucas didn't giggle...at least I hope not...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Spacezilla

    by SithMenace

    I can't find any reviews other than Harry's. I want Tron 2 to be great, but all I'm saying is I know to take Harry's reviews with a HUGE grain of salt.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Daft Punk ???? I don't get it.

    by tritium

    Yeah, maybe I'm just too old for this shit. But IMHO I think this electronica-based "music" will have the shelf life of carton of milk.<p>How can this "music" move people in the same way as classic film scores from the likes of Morricone, Williams, Goldsmith, Barry, etc.<p>I disagree that an electronic score is required by the thematic content of this film...and I think this will turn out to be a very bad choice by the filmmakers.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST

    The score sounds very early 80's

    by SithMenace

    with a little Dark Knight and a touch of Elfman thrown in. Maybe they were going for an 80's sound to tie it to the first film, but honestly I don't even remember the score for Tron.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST

    JEFF BRIDGES>OLIVIA WILDE>BRUCE BOXLEITNER HUMAN CENTIPEDE

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    tritium

    by happyboy

    I dont think so dude. Score doesnt have to be "classic" just fit the fit of the movie. Lowbrow can be suitable, off the top of my head the soundtracks to Matrix I and American Pie were basically just commercial pop crap but served well in those movies given the subject matter. Daft punk could do well in Tron, obviously I haven't seen it so I'll reserve judgment but as a theoretical principle it's fine.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:27 p.m. CST

    scores have been changing for a while now

    by ihatetalkbacks

    most films have a lot electronics in them now. Think about the Bourne films or Inception that have electronics with a symphonic score. I can remeber the Alien3 score as that is a mish mash and it continues into Alien resurection - a score with the largest orchestre and still electronics in it - and the worst of the series. As far as I know Hans Zimmer (the current go to man) cannot even orchestrate, and needs some one to do it for him. Which seems odd as Morricone could not a score out at about a rate of 3 weeks. It seems that a purely Orchestrated score is disapearing - a shame as I have heard the LSO do film scores twice and it is amazing.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:29 p.m. CST

    George Lucas says: "Tron 2 fucking stinks!"

    by AzulTool

    Fuck you, give me your money!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:29 p.m. CST

    tritium...Film scores...

    by Quake II

    I would agree to a point but the Daft Punk score has some very classic music mixed with the electronic sounds. And many (including myself) consider Tangerine Dream's soundtracks (Thief, The Keep, Sorcerer, Risky Business etc) and Georgio Moroder (Midnight Express) as classic film scores. All electronic. Even A Clockwork Orange has an amazing electronic score for 1973.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:31 p.m. CST

    John Hurt...

    by LionelRL

    ... has apparently filmed a role in 'Tron: Legacy' but there is no sign of him in any trailers, suggesting there is much more to be revealed.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    TRON-like movies engineer themselves to be dated

    by justmyluck

    The original TRON was a mashup of the 80's video game arcade craze vs. computerized corporate enforcement. From the few reviews so far, it seems TRON:legacy is grounded heavily in THE MATRIX territory and that's about it. If this sequel has nothing to say about computerization, except that visual neon accents and glows are cool (especially with peroxide blonde hairstyles), 'tis a shame. So, Disney execs have greenlit the animated series to transfix a new generation of kiddies to the boob tube. End of line.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    IGN loved it.

    by Novaman5000

    4 outta 5 stars. Harry's review may not be in the minority...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    SithMenace I posted a link to IGN'S Review Above

    by Spacezilla

    4 out of 5 stars man.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:34 p.m. CST

    George Lucas said Tron Legacy raped his eyeballs

    by Quake II

    and that it's a game-changer.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    tritium Tron Legacy's Soundtrack has a 90 piece orchestra. Stop

    by Spacezilla

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Clerks 2 - $30 million?

    by imagin78

    On what planet did Clerks 2 make $30 all-together, let alone on its' opening weekend? <p> One, Tracking at this point means nothing. Avatar wasn't tracking well until about a week before it opened. <p> Two, Tron was indeed influential. However, that doesn't necessarily make it a particularly good film. <p> Three, Harry's review is blatantly faint praise at best. Given his tendency to give hyperbolic compliments to even the worst of films, the caveats that dot this review should be seen as a bad omen for proponents of this film. I still have hope that the movie is good, but this review combined with the awful buzz from people that have seen the early screenings is not a good sign.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST

    imagin78 Why don't you want Tron 2 to be good?

    by Spacezilla

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Spacezilla, seriously?

    by SithMenace

    He said "I still have hope that this movie is good". Why are you making it your mission to shoot down everyone that has legitimate doubts about this movie?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST

    What?

    by imagin78

    Where did I say I didn't want it to be good? I clearly said I have hope that it still is. Nevertheless, I'm not going to go in with blind adoration. The early signs are not in Tron:Legacy's favor. It is bound to look and sound good, but the important facet of a solid story seems to be lacking. I'm still going to go see it though.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Awful buzz???? WHERE! Links please!

    by Quake II

    "but this review combined with the awful buzz from people that have seen the early screenings is not a good sign." Where this mysterious awful buzz???? I have SCOURED the internet for weeks trying to find ONE fucking review or blurb. Sadly, NONE exist!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Looks like...

    by herr_howard

    ...Harry may have just opened the review embargo. Just found this on IGN: http://movies.ign.com/articles/113/1137797p1.html I found another one that wasn't quite as glowing, so right now 2/3 say I've seen say 'Thumbs up!', the other not so much so...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:53 p.m. CST

    I stand corrected on Clerks II

    by Quake II

    It made 10 million opening weekend with a total gross of 24,148,068. Dogma opened big. My mistake. So Tron Legacy will only double the Clerks II opening? Please. With the toys on shelves, Califonia Adventure dedicating part of the park to Tron, 2 years of Comicon, a rabid fan base, a family-friendly PG rating, the holiday season and Imax 3-D showings...yeah, I would take Vegas odds that Tron Legacy will open to 75-100 million. Fuck early "tracking" polls.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Damnit Harry, REVIEW don't SUMMARIZE!

    by Cash907

    This is why I should know better then to read anything with your name one it. <P> For the love of god, take a film criticism class online or something, or at least take some pointers from Mass, Capone, et al. A review is a critique, not a goddamn play by play spoilerfest.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Spacezilla...

    by tritium

    In my comment with regards to the Daft Punk score, I am admittedly only going by what I have heard in the music from the trailers, which featured portions of the score.<p>Music is a subjective thing, obviously...and I freely accept that what doesn't necessarily work for me, may sound wonderful to others.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Some of you fuckers are SO STUPID!

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    I really hate the argument "I don't care if it's a success!"</p><p>Try to follow this logic, m-kay?</p><p>A new film comes out that blows your fucking mind. It is fantastic in every way. After it ends you just can't stop thinking about all the possibilities of other stories in that universe. Unfortunately, hardly anyone else feels the same way and it tanks at the box office.</p><p>The DVD/BD comes out in a barebones edition with a half-assed transfer and crumby sound and no extras because the studio doesn't think it's worth the money. Needless to say, no more films are made for that franchise.</p><p>You with me so far? Remember, you really like this outcome. You "don't give a shit" how much money it made....REMEMBER?</p><p>Now let's say the same film does fuckign BOFFO business. A sequel, maybe a series of sequels are immediately greenlit. All kinds of collectibles, books, comic books, video games all flood the market. All of a sudden everyone is talking about what a great film it is. Magazines devoted to this (now) series of films hit the stands. The DVD/BD comes out with an immaculate audio/video presentation with several discs of content.</p><p>.....Now tell yourself that none of it fucking matters because you're too "noble" to give a fuck about box office. Go ahead fuckhead. Regale us with tales of how it doesn't fucking matter how well a film does at the box office. Try to make that argument without eating your boogers you fucking chimp.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Robber_Button

    by gruntybear

    Even a shitty used copy of the VHS version of Tron is going for around $30-$40 in certain online venues. I couldn't resist such ridiculously easy money.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Dayuum Dirty, that's harsh

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    funny, probably all true, but still harsh

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST

    I'M ONE OF THE FEW THAT LOVES HARRY'S REVIEWS

    by Golden_Ux

    Not because I value his opinion or because I love his nostalgia filled anecdotes from the past but because the abuse thrown his way is hilarious. damn_dirty_ape's post above being a cracking example.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Damn, dude.

    by Astronut

    Chill out.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST

    (that was directed at FETT)

    by Astronut

    Natch.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:19 p.m. CST

    See, my thinking is split on this one

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    when harry recommends a movie - avoid it at all costs, but when he is so obviously wishy washy about it, well maybe it is worth seeing because he wanted so desperately to love it, but he does not but he can't trash it because it holds some deep meaning - either financial or nostalgic take your pick depending on how cynical ya is.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    In Summary : ME ME ME ME ME ME ME, i liked it

    by quantize

    this is every single harry review except for his lazy ass criminal ignorance on Inception

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Shouldn't this movie have been called "FLYNN"?

    by Snake Foreskin

    Or "CLU"? Is TRON even in it?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    damn_dirty_ape

    by SithMenace

    Nice, but you forgot one...<p>11. Bring your site into the 21st century.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    TRON...

    by WeylandYutani

    Like Blade Runner, were to far out for audiences in the early 80s... <P> They were "just slightly ahead of our time." to coin a company's marketing slogan of the day. <P> and I mean this both literally and figuratively.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Do you review Disney Animation anymore, Harry?

    by BartholomewNeff

    I was waiting to see what you thought about "Tangled" Harry. What gives? You haven't reviewed a Disney animated film in a long while. You review Megamind, but not Tangled? WTF???

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Interesting quote:

    by AsimovLives

    "it’s about the artist playing GOD and fucking it all up"<br><br>That basically sums up the whole thing about Abrams Trek. That i would find this in a review of TRON LEGACY i would never guessed.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    After Harry's review,the title finaly made sense to me

    by AsimovLives

    Now i understand why the movie is titled TRON LEGACY.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST

    GOD DAMN IT HARRY!!!

    by notcher

    Whenever you reminisce about your childhood before you review a film, the film always sucks. Yeah, I knew "Tron Legacy" would suck, just not this much!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:54 p.m. CST

    I'D PAY TO SEE RYAN REYNOLDS POOPING GLOWING GREEN SHIT

    by BringingSexyBack

    TMI?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    HARRY HAS A LOTTA FUCKING CHILDHOODS

    by BringingSexyBack

    One for every damn movie he's seen.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST

    DAMN DIRTY APE

    by BringingSexyBack

    About 10 ... I've seen some very good reviewers recently, Copernicus being one. And no, I'm not including that dickshit Devin. Sheep_Fucker should be a fulltime contributor. I like his stuff.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    After the coherence of the TRUE GRIT review

    by palimpsest

    back to the Harry we all know and kinda roll our eyes at. I know the big guy's emotional development was frozen at around age 12, but even so. Flashy lights and cool ideas about something nebulous when you're not quite a teenager is one thing, but to overlay that onto a very belated sequel is quite another. This may be the Christmas of Bridges and that's all dandy, and I'm sure I'll end up seeing this flick, but the review's curdled any enthusiasm I had for the project.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    it will do good because...

    by dodgethis27

    Geeks will go see it and a lot of the general public thinks it looks cool as well. However, the main reason this will be successful is the 3D. If there is one movie that was made to be in 3D it is this one and I think that is obvious to anyone from viewing the trailer to simply looking at the movie poster.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Noble Chimp eats snot, does math

    by magnetoelectric

    Kingdom of heaven did shit box office- Its a great film that received a fantastic dvd/blu ray release that made a shit load of more cash than the original box office run. Which in turn spawned the direct sequel ,Robin Hood , which in turn made far more money on Blu Ray/ DVD than it did in its box office run. Case made. Boogers eaten=Zero

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:13 p.m. CST

    The "Yoko" shtick was funny when she had her column

    by palimpsest

    There was a whiff of self-awareness. Now, less so.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST

    IT FEELS GOOD TO BE BACK!

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    Let's see if anyone can guess this Troll's previous handle!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Resident Evil 4

    by Shan

    If Resident Evil 4 can make almost as much as the previous three movies combined ($290 million so far) and the only thing different is some 3D, it's possible Tron Legacy will make a huge pile of money too just because of the great 3D.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Harry Knowles would give a positive review to Tron film

    by Quadrillionaire

    no matter who made it. Uwe Boll, Michael Bay, Brett Ratner, it doesn't matter. His credibility is suspect.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Another review...

    by LionelRL

    ...http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=34986

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:47 p.m. CST

    IGN.com also has a fairly positive review

    by nostairway

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:48 p.m. CST

    And I agree with many of the above...

    by nostairway

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:49 p.m. CST

    There needs to be some Game of Thrones coverage up soon

    by nostairway

    Or there's gonna be a nerd revolt very soon.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Dear Harry:

    by Dollar Bird

    I really enjoyed reading your review for "True Grit" last night. This review, however, was a less enjoyable read. (Though I'm glad you liked the film; THAT SAID, I know our tastes vary wildly and I should take a positive review from you with a grain of salt. Sometimes I wonder, if you rate films on Netflix, how many movies you have given 4 or 5 stars to.)

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:53 p.m. CST

    If some of you don't like Harry's reviews....

    by ChickenStu

    Then why the fuck do you bother with this site? Just asking, you know.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    In defense of these "reviews"

    by Larry Sellers

    It's really hard to be objective about a sequel to a film that had a huge impact on you as a kid. I mean given Harry's past thoughts on Legacy and Tron in general, you should know you're not getting a professionally written/grammatically correct/well articulated review. You know this site. You know Harry's enthusiasm gets the best of him ALL THE TIME--for better or worse. </p>And yet everyone is surprised when he cums on the keyboard and calls it a review. Is this the first of his that you've read? He's a giggling man-child with a hard on for movies and geeky things.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    'Then why the fuck do you bother with this site?'

    by quantize

    This is a common complaint..the 'change the channel' argument. It's fucking moronic. It assumes everyone reads only Harry's posts. <p> Besides people have a perfect right to read whatever they like and bitch if its sub par. Which is typically the case with Harry's narcissistic 'reviews'.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Well said quantize

    by SithMenace

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:16 p.m. CST

    It just seems odd

    by Spacezilla

    That some of you don't seem to understand why some of us are so excited about the new Tron movie. It's really really bizarre behavior to me. It's like some of you are offended that there is actually geeks out there that absolutely cannot wait to see the movie. How is it we can't see that the glass is half empty? That is what is fucking some of you up isn't it? You negative motherfuckers. 15 fucking days. Hoo ha!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:18 p.m. CST

    quantize

    by ChickenStu

    I'm actually new here. But thanks anyway.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Roger Ebert Review Tron 4 OUT OF $ Bitches!

    by Spacezilla

    http://www.ebertfest.com/one/tron_rev.htm

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST

    It's snowing like a cunt! here in little old England!.....

    by connor187

    My back yard looks like Outpost 31!....Erm looking forward to Tron Legacy!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Yard/Garden...etc.

    by connor187

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Spacezilla

    by SithMenace

    What are you, 12? What do you care if people don't understand why you're so excited? Some of us need to know a little more about the quality of the film before we pay to see it.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:31 p.m. CST

    But is it good enough for Disneyland to bring

    by sweeneydave

    back the PEOPLE MOVER?!!!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:31 p.m. CST

    But is it good enough for Disneyland to bring

    by sweeneydave

    back the PEOPLE MOVER?!!!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Actually I am 12 SithMenace

    by Spacezilla

    It must suck to be old. You get all negative and can't just get excited about movies that just look fun anymore. How old are you SithMenace so I will know at what age I should kill myself.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Harry

    by Golden_Ux

    Do you have inverted penis syndrome? Seriously. I saw a documentary about obese men who get so fat that their penis, no matter what size, gets lost in mounds of fat making it nigh on impossible to masturbate let alone have intercourse. How do you overcome this predicament with Yoko?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    damn_dirty_ape

    by ChickenStu

    I agree! for the most part they are! I guess I just got to read around and get to know the reviewers and that. Although come on... voluntary euthanasia? Bit harsh isn't it? Oh, and Golden_Ux, classy man, classy.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Lol Spacezilla

    by SithMenace

    If you want to blindly love every shiny movie that comes out, be my guest. Some of us need a little more substance. You'll understand when you grow up.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Planet McPlanterson

    by darth_hideous

    Planting a plant!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST

    I've never seen the original

    by Kammich

    And don't express a huge desire to see this new one... but I am really tempted to take a couple of Ambien and then see this in 3D. that'd be a fucking fun night, I think.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST

    SithMenace

    by ChickenStu

    I ain't 12, and I'm just as excited about seeing this movie as Spacezilla is. I loved the original as a kid, and I'm looking forward to taking my kids to see this sequel. If it's shit, I'll come back in here and say so at some point. But dude, don't drag the kid down cause he likes the look of a new Tron movie!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Tron-Legacy Review

    by huskerdu2

    Saw this in the UK this evening and...well, it's pretty bad. Some nice visuals - obviously - but nothing awe inspiring or that memorable to be honest. Bridges aside (and even he's not on great form) - you just don't care about anyone or anything in this movie, although the only person who seems to be having fun in Michael Sheen who turns in a brilliantly camp as tits turn that has more fun, wit and humour than the rest of the movie put together. And that's the movies major failing...it just isn't as fun as it should be. Nor is it as accessible as it should be and you come away from this very confused movie with no real sense of who it's aimed at. As for the Daft Punk soundtrack - it's decent enough, but it sounds very Hans Zimmer

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Yeah but chickenstu

    by SithMenace

    You're not acting like a total tool about it either. I want this movie to be good, but spacezilla seems to think anyone asking legitimate questions or doubting Harry's boyish enthusiasm for every property of his youth is trashing the film. That's just not the case.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST

    huskerdu2

    by ChickenStu

    Doesn't everything sound Hans Zimmer these days?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Yea because you know that Tron 2 doesn't have any substance

    by Spacezilla

    What an awesome gift you have to know all these things before you have ever seen it. Because Tron 2 looks just as empty to you as Wolverine Origins and Transformers 2 or Terminator 4 or ALliens vs. Predator. Listen to yourself. I bet you don't even believe your bullshit. Put it in perspective man. You are treating the new Tron really unfairly. It looks badass and fun, and the story seems really cool. Why do you need Tron 2 to be like Shawshank Redemption?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST

    huskerdu2

    by SithMenace

    That's sad to hear.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST

    'It's like bio-digital jazz'..

    by huskerdu2

    ...which is not only one of the soon to be 'classic' lines from this flick, but sort of aptly describes the noodling, poorly edited bilge I just spewed out in the above post. Suffice to say: I thought the film wasn't very good.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:53 p.m. CST

    And who are you?

    by Spacezilla

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Great review, Harry

    by _Lizarkeo

    Best in years. <p> Have you programmed in BASIC too? Awesome.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Reguardless of what anyone of you assholes say here...

    by chainsaw_shawn

    ...I'm still gonna see it, no matter how harry spoils it or how many people hate on it, or loathe it or anything else. I want to see it because it's a true continuation of the story. PERIOD!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Is TROFF in this one?

    by ObiBen

    Yes, I used to code in Basic on my TRS-80 when TRON came out...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST

    chainsaw_shawn Thank You Exactly

    by Spacezilla

    Good point. How cool is that? It's a continuation of the story. And we have all these cool new comics and games and music, and ElecTRONica... All because of Tron Legacy. This is a time we should be celebrating and be excited about it.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST

    SithMenace

    by huskerdu2

    Yeah. I went with no expectations other than wanting to be entertained. I'm not a Tron nerd, but I was quite intrigued by the trailers and from that standpoint it just bored and frustrated me. You can tell the script was written by a committee of people as there's no 'voice' to the writing and that anonymity can also be extended to the world that's created in this film and the direction. I guess, at the end of the day, it reminded me of a better made, slightly better acted Sky Captain crossed The Matrix Reloaded and a dash of Speed Racer. Oh...and the 'digital Bridges' is the weakest effect in the movie, when it really needs to be the best.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:04 p.m. CST

    huskerdu2..

    by LionelRL

    I'm calling you out on your so-called 'review' - nothing you have said suggests you have seen more of this film than any other talkbacker.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST

    ...the real question here is...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...do I spring for a sitter and see this in 3-D?...or just pop it in at home with lowered expectations and a nice bottle of red.<P>Or two.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Credibility

    by OldDickLemon

    It's a shame fat boy has so greatly ruined his credibility in recent years. I knew this was the review I'd read before even opening it. It very well may be a fine film, but Harry would have loved it if it was 90 minutes of old bridges tea bagging CGI young Bridges while a giggling Boxleiter playfully tossed feces at them. Tron blew so incredibly it holds the distinction of being the only movie who's video game tie in was vastly superior.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Spacezilla - why did you put up a review of the original

    by SithMenace

    Tron film by Roger Ebert? Are you trying to pass that off in the subject as a review of the new film?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:13 p.m. CST

    first half of film not in 3d? lazy fucks

    by awepittance

    that totally negates any chance of me seeing it. The live action 3d stuff in avatar was top tier, what's with so many hollywood filmmakers only doing CGI 3d stuff?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Wassup Flickapoo?

    by SithMenace

    How's things?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST

    SithMenace.... I thought it would be funny sheesh

    by Spacezilla

    awepittance, you are dumb. The real world is in 2D and the Grid is in 3D. They are calling it the Wizard of Oz effect. The 3D in the new Tron sounds fucking awesome. I am apparently 12 today and even I get that.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Hey you're the one that said you were 12

    by SithMenace

    I just asked. Sheesh.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:23 p.m. CST

    LionelRL

    by huskerdu2

    Call me out all you like, but I saw it at the Empire Leicester Sq this evening at a press screening with a trailer for 'I Am Number 4' in front of it. The film just isn't very good. But if it's little details you want - the film begins in 1989, 'Sweet Dreams...'by The Eurythmics gets an airing and Kevin Flynn makes an interesting claim about wi-fi.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:26 p.m. CST

    That's ashame huskerdu2

    by SithMenace

    Everything you said about the film is everything I was afraid of. I wanted a great movie to see in the week leading up to Christmas (LOTR used to fit that bill), but it sounds like this might not be it.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:30 p.m. CST

    ...hey, Menace...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...you guys were going at it in style, so I didn't want to interrupt with mere pleasantries.<P> You never really know, but I think things are well. Are you settled in your new digs?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Tron Legacy Isn't Tracking Well...It's Already In Trouble

    by Media Messiah

    This according to a recent presss report---I think from Hollywood Reporter, or Variety.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST

    ITs just a number baby wanna fuck or something?

    by Spacezilla

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:39 p.m. CST

    SithMenace

    by huskerdu2

    Listen, all i'm offering is my own opinion. The movie didn't work for me - although the final 3rd of the flick does at least generate a bit more excitement and energy than the previous 80 odd minutes suggests it will. But even then it doesn't offer anything we haven't seen before. And so it goes...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Oh shit a Harry Review

    by Phategod2

    I'm posting this as a precursor to reading Harry's review. Can we read a review without some pointless trope about your childhood. and without all the nerd gushing. Just tell us if it sucks or not keep it simple stupid.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:42 p.m. CST

    The movie is not even out yet...

    by chainsaw_shawn

    At least you guys should wait until release day and let the court of fucking public opinion decide! i mean i didnt think anyone would want to see harry potter because they always fuck up the novel to film adaptations, i was wrong. i think tron is gonna make it's money. Haters gonna hate... I just wanna know how it ends. P.S. dont anyone fucking spoil it for me now!!!! lmao.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Just playful banter Flick

    by SithMenace

    Yeah, we're all dug in. We love it up here, it's so nice to be surrounded by farmland after being so close to Philly for so many years. It's too cold already though, but that's December for you.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 6:44 p.m. CST

    9 paragraphs before you even start the review

    by Phategod2

    Goddamn man focus.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:01 p.m. CST

    I think Harry

    by Mr Soze

    Secretly didn't like it...but in his heart of hearts he knows he has to. C'mon guys he's a geek like us.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Mr soze? really?

    by chainsaw_shawn

    From what i read it sounded like it came from the heart. You think harry accepts payola from outside interests, to just make a statement on whether the movie is good or not. I mean harry isnt ebert and roper, shit he isnt even metacritic. Im human and while i do take the reviewers critiques into consideration. the only one's feelings that count is mine. When i get back from the movies on the 17th ill give my honest opinion on what i think...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Have that little of you

    by Series7

    Heard the score? I've had it for like two weeks. Its the most solid score Zimmer never made.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Harry wouldnt poop on this...

    by Mr Soze

    No way, even if he despised it. It's like walking out after the ending to Attack of the Clones and trying to defend it in your mind, but really deep down you knew it was shit!!!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST

    So you hate inception

    by batman713

    but like this fucking garbage? LOL

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST

    "It’s visually beyond stunning." Okay I'm sold!

    by Orionsangels

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:16 p.m. CST

    I never saw the original

    by CherryValance

    Yup, I didn't. I don't know if I should bother and just see this one or what. I really don't watch anything that isn't on Netflix streaming anymore. :o What's happened to me? lol I like that sample of the soundtrack though, so I'm kinda leaning on actually going into a theater type situation.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Harry not liking

    by Mr Soze

    Inception shocked me. I'd think that was right in his wheel house. Movie of the year hands down. Holding my breath for True Grit though

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:19 p.m. CST

    You know what's sad?

    by BlaGyver

    I had to scroll through the talkbacks to get a decent idea of what Harry's opinion on the film was (I figured it would be LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT as usual, but I had to be sure, what with the 7 or 8 BEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR reviews so far). Harry, I try to defend you. I really do. I have no idea if you even read these anymore, but honestly, cut back on the childhood stories and get to reviewing the film. I literally can't find a coherent review in what you've posted, just rambling. And for the love of God, stop typing Giggle. It's fucking creepy. Period.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:23 p.m. CST

    CHUD gave it a very lukewarm 5.4 out of 10 review.

    by AzulTool

    I'm still going to eat a medicinal cookie and see it.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    I don't understand why ...

    by ganda1f

    ... but none of my friends are excited about this film. Half of them haven't heard about it.<br>And they are all massive geeks, of about my age.<br>I fear for this film's financial success, but I will be there in the cinema.<br> Also, great review Harry!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Mr soze harry reviews & attack of the clones?

    by chainsaw_shawn

    Ok. but really have you seen tron legacy already? can you co-sign with harry, it's just his opinion. it really takes an overwhelming amount of viewers to sway any potential viewer. The only thing that was redeeming about attack of the clones was jango fett, and the last fight scene, that's all...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Chainsaw...

    by Mr Soze

    Read Harry's review again and doesn't it seem he's trying to talk himself into this???

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Reviews are coming in, and they're pretty good.

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    IGN and JoBlo have both submitted mostly good reviews. The common thread among all these reviews so far is that if you haven't seen the original "Tron," this probablly isn't for you even though Disney would like everyone to believe you can jump right in. People that have never seen or heard of "Tron" before were lost and sometimes bored trying to figure out what was going on. Those are basically the idiots that fill multiplexes every weekend with cell phones seeing the latest brain dead comedy. Unfortuneately, that might also include your wife or girlfriend! Frankly, I remember the mass audience being TOTALLY CONFUSED, lost and bored by the original. This, unfortunately, included my Mom, who at least blessed me by taking me to see it twice. I hope it doesn't bomb, but I don't think it will. The Christmas film going craze will help boost ticket sales. If this looks like something you'll not like, you probally won't. So shut the fuck up and don't see it. It looks like a dream come true to me, something I never thought I'd see, but secretly wished for.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Fuckin' KING_TROLL_VIII

    by Al Swearengen

    Nobody gives a fuck.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    LOL maybe...

    by chainsaw_shawn

    But i dont understand what they could offer him other than money to make a glowing review of a movie. I mean what if he does truly love it?! i mean he could be a very big tron fan period and die hard fans are always gonna be giving the best quotes on the movie anyways. But like i said his review notwithstanding, im gonna see it anyway because it's a true continuation and I myself want to see what happens to Sam and Kevin Flynn! I always wondered if Kevin Flynn made it home?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:37 p.m. CST

    I think the biggest issue with the movie

    by Series7

    Is the director. He comes from commercials and music videos...and that's all this looks like. For better are worse. Sort of crazy that he got this though.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:44 p.m. CST

    They Should Have Gotten A More Skilled Director To Do Ths

    by Media Messiah

    The guy that they picked to direct the new Tron is some wiz kid FX visualist, but, he was an x-factor when it comes to working with actors, and shaping story, and as such, it was a mistake to to hire him for such an important job. They should have just hired him as a visualist, cinematographer, FX supervisor, or production designer, etc., but not as the director. Robert Zemeckis would have been perfect for the job, or Richard Donner, but not Joe-Blow effects wiz. We have seen the results before with FX wiz' or Cinematographers given the director's chair for major films, like what occurred with Spawn, Speed 2, Battlefield Earth, and Captain Sky. But hey, Disney deserved this, karma wise, thanks to putting Bristol Palin on Dancing With The Stars--and keeping her on to the last round, while justifying it with a straight face? I may just boycott this movie out of protest for that alone!!!!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:45 p.m. CST

    They Should Have Gotten A More Skilled Director To Do This

    by Media Messiah

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Directors gotta start from somewhere.

    by chainsaw_shawn

    I remember when hype williams made belly, now it wasnt a bad movie, but the shadowy enviroment killed that aspect for me. I get what he was going for but he could have did better. Not all directors are made directing movies. shit remember quentin tarentino started working at a video store! lol. Also kevin smith was an independant guy who did his own shit with handheld cameras. lol.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Oh great, Harry likes it.

    by MattmanReturns

    Now we know it'll suck.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:48 p.m. CST

    I hope Tron 2 is going to be as good as the burrito I just had.

    by AzulTool

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Fuckin' Al Swearengen (AKA: Al Pedophile Horse Cock Licker)

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    nobody gives a shit about your deadwood routine....ya dumb pedophile.....and you do care who I am

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:50 p.m. CST

    I had a burrito at lunch

    by D o o d

    and it sucked. I've decided that I just don't like burrito's. So from my perspective, Tron is going to be much better than my burrito!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:50 p.m. CST

    FlickaPoo and his opinion mean less than...

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    his life. He's just a shit eating monkey hybrid

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Fuckin' KING_TROLL_VIII

    by Al Swearengen

    No, I don't fuckin' care. It's just that the fuckin' shit stench of MJs_Cold_Dead_Pale_Corpse is so bad, I'm about to burn down the whole fuckin' thread.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Fuckin' Al Swearengen (AKA: Al Pedophile Horse Cock Licker)

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    You must be smelling your mom's pussy juice on your upper lip

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST

    .....

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    and yes you do care

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Pussy Juice! lmao.

    by chainsaw_shawn

    Wow... we done talked about tron legacy to eating moms pussy. how the mighty have fallen...

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 8 p.m. CST

    I've had many bodies before...

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    There was MJs_Cold_Dead_Pale_Corpse, HARRYIZAFAGGOT, Captain_Carnage, Charger26, IH8HARRY, GarysMidgetCorpse, etc......but true trolls never go away

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 8:04 p.m. CST

    I'm looking for new whores to work my establishment.

    by Al Swearengen

    I gotta mind to think that KING_TROLL_VIII (aka MJs_Cold_Dead_Pale_Corpse) would be first in line to offer grabbin' ankle, pissin', suckin' cock, and the like. Since I already know that he's fucked for food, I'm definitely going to have to put him through the fuckin' paces.<P>KING_TROLL! Are your underarms clean? Is your cunt braided? If you're not opposed to using pussy-lotion, my other whores tell me it works pretty well for ass fucking. Which is, of course, good news for you as I've got a party of dirt worshippin' Celestials who will need servicing in exchange for Wu's fuckin' dope. None of which you will be allowed to slam into your fuckin' veins as I fully expect you to be made airtight with cock by nightfall.<P>Now, do you got any questions about your new job? Speak now because rookie whores have been known to vanish around here...from time to time.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 8:11 p.m. CST

    I CANNOT FUCKING WAIT FOR THIS

    by LaserPants

    Visually/sensorily, It looks/sounds like the coolest mother fucking thing ever.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Al Swearengen never breaks character.....

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    1000% comitted to his cowboy/pedohile AICN persona. I can only imagine what kind of outta shape piece of shit mess he must be in real life. Al, you must look like a total dumpster fire in person. You should kill yourself. Like a fat teenaged girl with no friends and a smelly pussy....just kill yourself. Ending your meaningless life would be a grand act of providence. If you're too afriad...let me do it. I'll be glad to bury a fat slimy turd like yourself, he'll I could probably just through that shit in the trash and no one would care.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST

    I could probably...

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    put that shit in for Tosh.0

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 8:17 p.m. CST

    The Web Redemption......

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    would be me and Tosh porking your moist mother on top of your coffin

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 8:35 p.m. CST

    HEY, THIS CHUMP STOLE MJ_CORPSE'S SCHTICK

    by BringingSexyBack

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 8:36 p.m. CST

    N/M, JUST READ AL'S POST

    by BringingSexyBack

    Carry on

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Chainsaw_Shawn: Yes, You Are Right, But...

    by Media Messiah

    ...you want to start a newbie director out on something like a TV series, then a couple of TV movies, and maybe a mini-series, then you move them up to a Fast and The Furious style film, a small romantic comedy movie, a independent period drama...with a limited budget, an art film, etc., and see how they do. Sure, it will be a 10 year swing, or so, but you are developing a talent...up the ranks and making them truly learn their craft, in a baptism by fire, before you intrust them with a potential blockbuster franchise. The risk is too great, just to hand something like this, a Tron sequel, over to a newbie, without getting their feet wet thoroughly, and allowing them to experiment and make mistakes elsewhere, with lessor projects--that can be used to test their talent as a storyteller and a director working with actors, editors, etc. Commercials and music videos alone, just aren't good enough of a testing ground, in most cases.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Thank God Olivia Munn is NOT in this!!!

    by alienindisguise

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 8:51 p.m. CST

    damn dirty ape is right

    by alienindisguise

    Seriously.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST

    I also agree mediamessiah but!

    by chainsaw_shawn

    LOL. For such a newbie director he's gonna have to get his dick wet, It's also not his choice to direct this movie, it wasnt a bidding war the minute disney already had the test footage, THEY chose who they wanted! I'm sure any capable director who's established could have made a tron legacy worth it's weight and maybe we would have been satisfied, because the name does sell a movie... But I also was skeptical of the fact that Sam Raimi did spiderman, and i was like seriously xena and hercules, army of the dead sam raimi? But i was blown away! it was actually good. This movie looks great and for a first time feature director this guy whoever he is has done a good job cinematically. we'll see on the 17th!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST

    I guess it was easier to understand than Inception

    by Trazadone

    Ever since Harry slammed Inception I can't take anything he says seriously anymore.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST

    HARRY'S BEEN WRITING IN THE SAME STYLE SINCE AT LEAST 1996

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST

    YOU KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:08 p.m. CST

    I REMEMBER READING THE BIG LEAD-UP TO STARSHIP TROOPERS, BABY!

    by Darth Busey

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:11 p.m. CST

    @the telemarketer WHY indeed?! lol.

    by chainsaw_shawn

    Fat cunt who likes silly shit. Also he may run this site for free, what money does he gain from it, i dont see many major advertising?!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Mars attacks sucked!!!!

    by chainsaw_shawn

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Harry, this sounds like the movie is a piece of shit.

    by reflecto

    "I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL IT WILL PLAY BEYOND THE CORE" <p> "I AM JUST A TRON FANBOY" <p> "I laughed and cheered with the other geeks" <p> Harry, YOU are responsible for encouraging geek culture to embrace mediocre films with a nostalgia brand name.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST

    You're so pathetic

    by Genitals

    You're such a dork Harry. And not in an endearing sort of way because those people are definitely out there. My spite toward you is so acidic because you are such an annoying glob of sh*t. I wish I wasn't compelled to register just to tell you but it is what it is.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:54 p.m. CST

    I counted fifteen paragraphs before the review started...

    by BurnHollywood

    ...Anyone disagree?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST

    It's funny...

    by Orionsangels

    to see people get so worked up because someone loves something they hate. They can't stand to see someone happy. They can't stand hype either. They want this movie to fail just so they can come here and say, ha! ha! I told you it would fail. Remember the original failed at the Box Office and yet it's still beloved and has a stronge following.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST

    It's funny...

    by Orionsangels

    to see people get so worked up because someone loves something they hate. They can't stand to see someone happy. They can't stand hype either. They want this movie to fail just so they can come here and say, ha! ha! I told you it would fail. Remember the original failed at the Box Office and yet it's still beloved and has a strong following.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST

    It's funny...

    by Orionsangels

    to see people get so worked up because someone loves something they hate. They can't stand to see someone happy. They can't stand hype either. They want this movie to fail just so they can come here and say, ha! ha! I told you it would fail. Remember the original failed at the Box Office and yet it's still beloved and has a strong following.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Quake II

    by Jon Voights Ballsack

    Dogma's opening weekend was about 8 and a half million. I don't think Kevin Smith movies are the best reference for whatever point you're going for there.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 9:58 p.m. CST

    It's funny...to see someone triple post.

    by BurnHollywood

    WTF.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Dear God Harry! Just get to the review!

    by Linguo_IS_Dead

    Nobody cares about your childhood rememberences!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:03 p.m. CST

    I'm Watching the Original Tron Right Now

    by kevinwillis.net

    Gonna miss David Warner and the old guy from Doc Hollywood. Saw a bit where Sam Flynn is using his Nokia phone to break into Encom. I'm wondering if that was also at "the big door". I hope so. <br><br>I remain excited about Tron Legacy. Whatever I see, I'm pretty sure I'm going to say to myself: needs more Tron, needs more Yori. But I'll still love it. Though I don't for a minute believe that Flynn would create a new computer world and not have a copy of Yori in the system.<Br><br>Also, I'd imagine he woulda scrounged up a copy of Ram somewhere. Ram and Yori better make an appearance in the sequel. All I'm gonna say. And what about grid bugs? And what about a trip through an old part of the Encom mainframe with old-style programs? These are things I (being a geek) want to see. If not in Tron Legacy, then Tron Resurrection.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Based on the reviews out now...

    by HansBubi

    Based on Harry's review (which shows gaps in critical analysis), Jenna's review at JoBlo, and IGN's review, as much as people hate the comparison to Avatar, Tron Legacy seems to be an Avatar affair. Those few reviews all talk about how great the movie looks, and how the movie is a geeky spectacle, and the two more critical reviews (obviously not Harry's) admit that its script is adequate and nothing more. All the reviews also emphasize that this movie plays like the beginning of a "new" franchise, so it might not feel like a complete story, and it might not seem to ever reach a fully satisfying climax and/or conclusion.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST

    The "score" 2

    by Briestro

    I listened to it a few more times today, it's just "ok" in spots, a little lame in others. It sounds nothing like Zimmer, people need ear training. B

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    It's hilarious seeing that Inception....

    by Kai_Mah'gra

    ....is now the hallmark of a person's credibility as to their taste in movies. OR rather the fact that they either like or don't like Inception is the hallmark is what determines for most people on this talkback whether their opinion counts. <p> As usual morons are busy bashing Harry just because he didn't slobber all over their Nolan-induced wet-dream, because everybody must love Inception or you're an idiot. Right. Whatever. <p> These are the same idiots who were actually bashing Nolan because he didn't pick their personal favorite to direct Superman and because he went with a non-geek-popular but nonetheless successful Zach Snyder. <p> Well I thought Inception was an incredible bore at best, and dementedly stupid at worst (and yes, I did "get" it, and still thought it was s dumb movie). So please feel free to disregard this post and my opinion. The SouthPark guys captured the stupidity of the whole Inception cult and its midget-minded cultists perfectly.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Tron legacy, Franchise?

    by chainsaw_shawn

    I've heard that rumor too!? WTF. so they dont get out?

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST

    INCEPTION?

    by chainsaw_shawn

    truthfully. I didnt even see it yet, looking forward to the blu-ray!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Oh and the fact that most of you think....

    by Kai_Mah'gra

    ...that Tron sucks and will do badly at the Box Office (before you've even seen it, I might add) must be ecstatic news for the Studio suits. What was the last movie that geeks went nuts for which was a smashing success at the Box office? Scott Pilgrim? Kick-Ass? All miserable failures in the mainstream. <p> Nobody gives a crap what Geeks think or what they like or don't like; get over your sorry pathetic selves. <p> And Tron will do just fine at the Box office without your help. Disney have poured enough Marketing money into letting people know about it to ensure that it will do well enough.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    I find it even funnier

    by Briestro

    That someone who watches South Park is calling Inception a "dumb" movie. Now that's comedy.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:35 p.m. CST

    I have no problem with South Park...

    by HansBubi

    ...though I haven't watched it in a few years, but I remember several years ago when the show completely embraced the ripped-from-the-headlines Law & Order approach to episode ideas, and the show became the bible to many people on what is dumb or lame in society. I'm amused by how they satirize some pop culture figures, and I have no problem with them doing political humor, but there was a noticeable and slightly unpleasant shift in attitude of the show's fans.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:36 p.m. CST

    i thought this same thing when i saw the preview 3 years ago LOL

    by NorthTronic

    There’s a part of me that seriously wants TRON to belong to a subsection of the world forever, simply out of a geek snobbery position that says in a manic Daffy Duck, “It’s MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE ! MINE!”

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:39 p.m. CST

    But I HATE Daft Punk...

    by uncanny_alley

    ... fuck that "One More Time" song SOOooo much! But more importantly, my biggest disappointment is that the people don't have that awesome black and white look that for me makes the original such a unique visual experience. Actually, I could tell I was horribly disappointed in this since the first teaser which already missed the point of the lightcyles by taking them off a grid. Oh and please, someone, come in here and defend Daft Punk and call me a square/hipster/whatever because you know I'll be reading it! Goodnight, y'all, hope you either don't waste your money on this piece of clever marketing (tease nostalgia while giving the youth what they're used to being told they want, like Transformers, etc)or enjoy it if you do! Cripes, I sound like a troll, but I also really do hate Daft Punk's music a whole lot and I'm on the internet so I'll just be the vocal minority while I can. Sorry for pooping on anyone's parade. Okay, goodnight for real this time.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Orcus: You Came Here In a Time Machine . . .

    by kevinwillis.net

    That I invented. And now I need your help to go back to the year 1985.<br><br> That being said, I been back to the past. Downland, to the land of the leather goddesses. Go see for yourself.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 10:52 p.m. CST

    'But I HATE Daft Punk...'

    by quantize

    get some fuckin taste. Let me guess 'you don't like electronic music'. <p> Get a fuckin clue.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:08 p.m. CST

    "A work of genius"

    by MooseMalloy

    A quote taken from Harry's MONARCH OF THE MOON review. 'Nuff said.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:12 p.m. CST

    can't wait

    by JaredP

    i'm definitely going to go see this shit the first tron was awesome hope the new one is just as good

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:12 p.m. CST

    With TRON: LEGACY and TRUE GRIT...

    by MooseMalloy

    ... coming out, there is absolutely no reason to bitch or complain about a damn thing until sometime in January.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Fuck it - I liked 'Inception'...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    ...and if you didn't...whatever. <p>I'm looking forward to seeing Legacy. Yes, nostalgia has a rose colored tint to it. I remember seeing Tron in the theater, fairly wasted, cracking up at lines like - 'Look! the I/O towers are lighting!'. I distinctly recall shouting, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!" at Barnard Hughes (the old guy), and getting a good laugh from the crowd. But I also remember how cool I thought the light cycles and fucking recognizers were. So yeah, the script was lame, and 'The Dude' and David Warner were awesome, and I'm thinking right now that the new movie's gonna be about the same. Cool 'Dude', cool effects, lame plot.<p> So what. Still gonna go see it. Probably get wasted for this one too (but without the shouting).<p> Ah, good times....

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Yeah..and 'Scott Pilgrim' was for the masses...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:21 p.m. CST

    SCOTTPILGRIMFAN = COCK GOBBLER

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    I thought that piece of shit died awhile ago...back when I was still MJs_Cold_Dead_Pale_Corpse.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:22 p.m. CST

    You ain't no King of AICN either....

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    I'm the king....but you can be my queen ya little whore

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:26 p.m. CST

    YOU OWN IT ON BR,DVD,VHS,& BETA YOU FUCKIN' LIAR

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Now....

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    give me some pussy

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST

    FACT: The books sucked...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    ...unless you're 12 years old. O'Malley sucks.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST

    I'm sorry...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    ...I meant O'Malley sucks dick.<p> Really.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Anyone see that Fran Lebowitz doc on HBO?

    by magnetoelectric

    She was talking about how "The culture is dictated by the talented, and the dictation is takes down by idiots" (I'm paraphrasing & probably not doing the sentiment justice.) <p> Basically her point was :The undiscerning/ignorant audience annihilates/subjugates the talented. The creme still rises to the top but is watered down by aping and emulators. Theres evidence across the board from films, to music, art, and literature. It seemed to me Lebowitz was speaking from a place where, people who were inspired by her own work , produced hack novels and wrote about shit that they didn't 'know' about. The reason behind it all being because everyones believes their own personal bullshit two cent opinion is 'worth' having.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:30 p.m. CST

    My cockhead is so plump right now!!!!

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    Trolling is such a turn on...somebody feel these veins!!!!!!!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Fran Lebowitz

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    Is a stupid Jew cunt....and if you buy into her meaningless "female" view of the world....then kill yourself

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Wow, that's bit harsh..I just hate Scott Pilgrim

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    But hey, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. Oh wait, you're not, because that guy over there said so.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:36 p.m. CST

    And Micheal Cera.

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    He's a cunt. I know 'cause I saw it on 'You Tube'.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:40 p.m. CST

    Uncanny alley: do you know how few vampires have

    by UltraTron

    the stamina for immortality? You must learn to make contact with this age. Daft Punk is astounding when on the right drugs. The original benefits from the mystery inherent in black and white photography no doubt. It contributed to the other worldly aspect. But now we have creepy digital heads and stuff to do that job. The cycles were never locked to the grid- they crash through the wall and escape. They emit light trails. On that grid in the first movie it was the grid of the 8 bit game light cycles.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:40 p.m. CST

    SCOTTPILGRIMFAN + DA_CHOPPAH = GAY SECKS

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Crazy but true...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    ...every time I wipe my ass it's impossible not to think of scottpilgrimfan.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Fact.

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:43 p.m. CST

    Who the fuck is Fran Lebowitz?

    by chainsaw_shawn

    Seriously???? And how can this guy be a scott pilgrim fan if he never saw the movie. asshole! what an oxymoron!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:44 p.m. CST

    @UltraTron - nice post :)

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Google (images) of Fran Lebowitz

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    WARNING: you will have erectile dysfunction for 24hrs after viewing that cunt's pictures

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:47 p.m. CST

    She's some ugly ass bitch...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    ...who's related to Judd Hirsch from 'Taxi'. She wrote a lot of crap. Then she died.<p>That's straight from her Wiki.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Your Mom

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:49 p.m. CST

    FAIL, FAIL, FAIL, FAIL, FAIL!!!!!!!!!!

    by I am the Terminator

    KING_TROLL_VIII = FAIL<br> SCOTTPILGRIMFAN = FAIL<P>you stoopid fucks are such failures!! Haw! Get a life jerkwads! Cause you FAIL at trolling!!<P>FACT!! LOL!<P>You've got to be a pretty big loser to FAIL being a troll! Aim higher! AIR FORCE!!<P>FUCKS!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:49 p.m. CST

    LOL@erectile dysfunction.

    by chainsaw_shawn

    I thought she was a man, she has a very strong jawline!!!! yuck!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:52 p.m. CST

    SP fan? ummmm

    by chainsaw_shawn

    WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT JAY LENO AND RICKY GERVAIS!!! STOP SUCKING NBC'S COCK!!!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Google (images) of KING_TROLL_VIII

    by I am the Terminator

    WARNING: you will die barfing looking at that cunt's roast beef curtains!<P>NEW AND IMPROVED!!<P>PWNED!!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:53 p.m. CST

    Chainsaw! You didn't actually LOOK did you??

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    Quickly! Grab the nearest bottle of bleach and pour it directly into both eyes! If you still see afterimages it may be neccessary to poke both eyes out with the longest knitting needles you can find!<p>Oh, the humanity!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:54 p.m. CST

    GERVAIS & LENO

    by I am the Terminator

    Name two other people that didn't see SCOTT PILGRIM!!<P>LOL!!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:54 p.m. CST

    ScottPilgrimFan

    by HansBubi

    Have a good night. Not everyone likes it, but you ARE the AICN talkbacks.

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:56 p.m. CST

    'scottpilgrimfan'

    by frank cotton

    is WILL FERRELL

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:57 p.m. CST

    DIABLO CODY IS A GENIUS??

    by I am the Terminator

    I thought she was a Gemini!<P>Bada-Bing!!<P>get it?<P>FUCKS!

  • Dec. 2, 2010, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Too LATE!

    by chainsaw_shawn

    I SAW IT AND IM BLIND!!! LMAO. but trust me people i have seen absolutely worst!

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 12:10 a.m. CST

    God

    by Briestro

    Can somebody get rid of this prick? Doesn't aintitcool ever ban guys like this? Talkback's are hard enough to navigate though without 50 1 line moronic posts from "SCOTTPILGRIMFAN". I guess I'll go back to not posting, I've been reading this site since at least 1998, and this type of stuff is worse than ever lately.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 12:16 a.m. CST

    A CHUD reviewer gives it 5.7 out of 10

    by ReportAbuse

    "A gigantic, expensive light show. That’s what you get from Tron: Legacy, cued to one of the best scores of the last ten years." Andre Dellamorte. First review I've seen other than Harold's.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 12:23 a.m. CST

    More from the review ...

    by ReportAbuse

    (Before it goes down the memory hole) ... "Because of the developmental process, it’s hard to know where to lay blame, but if Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz are going to take the writing credit and the paycheck, then it’s hard not to call them terrible writers. I have no idea at what stage this was thought to be a good script, but how what’s on screen could pass any sort of muster is beyond me ... Regardless, the blueprint doesn’t look like it was all that great, and the actors are all in their own different movies. Seriously, this film is so incompetently delivered as a narrative; the plot mostly exists to give the director his big scenes but there’s no connective tissue. As such the film dies on screen, and it lends you to pick apart the universe, and how shallow it is."

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 1:21 a.m. CST

    YEAH AND SCOTT PILGRIM HAD NO CG

    by Orionsangels

    SCOTTPILGRIMFAN! HATER OF CG!

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Either you get Tron or you don't

    by Orionsangels

    Those that don't are going to write self indulgent reviews on how the original Tron was terrible and how this sequel should have never been made. All while bad mouthing the fans. I was expecting this it doesn't bother me. All that matters is whether I like the film or not.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 1:40 a.m. CST

    Disagree, Orion

    by crankyoldguy

    There's plenty of middle ground. The first Tron was okay, beloved if you 15 or under at the time. This one is likely great eye candy with an okay, but not great story. But Bridges alone elevates almost everything; he's that kind of actor, that kind of presence.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 1:48 a.m. CST

    Tron is and always has been hardcore eye candy

    by Onin Solstice

    I remember Tron as well, I remember how cool the bikes were, how the sweet the raquet ball scenes looked and how awesome the red suits glow in the movie. Aside from that though, I have no clue what that movie was about....

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 1:59 a.m. CST

    Wow, this TB degenerated fast

    by SithMenace

    All because of one loser with 6 screen names.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 2:05 a.m. CST

    "Olivia Wilde pooping blue shit"

    by JohnIan

    Like that episode of SeaQuest? That shit glowed and was blue.

  • Who the fuck comes up with this shit? People with absolutely no fucking clue about music at all. The score is "ok", just "ok". For gods sake. Hell, why should I be surprised at the state of music appreciation these days. The most bland and mediocre composer I've ever heard in my life won an Academy last year. The state of things are truly scary. I'm not even bashing Tron's score either. There's a few decent tracks on it. B

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 3:49 a.m. CST

    And I hope

    by Briestro

    The movie is better than a lot of people here are assuming. I'm one of those younger than 15 when the first one came out, and the movie has always held a place for me too. Nobody has mentioned Automan. Nobody. lol, Tron was a bigger deal when it first came out than a lot of people seem to think. B

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 4:04 a.m. CST

    Chainsaw_Shawn: Sam Had More Experience, By Far...

    by Media Messiah

    ...at telling stories, producing and editing dramatic productions, than this guy, who did the new Tron. Look, nothing wrong with getting your dick wet, but if you want to impress Halle Berry, start at the bottom by fucking some other chicks for practice, then move onto several older women, and then next, after you have learned and gain some major experience dancing in the dark, you'll blow Halle's mind in bed, rather than starting at the top with Halle, and having no dick control or technique. She won't be impressed.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 4:10 a.m. CST

    Kosinski is both a mechanical engineer and an architect

    by BDuncan

    Granted that Jim Cameron and Spielberg were college dropouts, George Lucas barely managed to graduate high school and people like Scorsese and Spike Lee have honorary professor degrees, this guy must be the most well educated living film director, being both a qualified mechanical engineer and an associate professor of architecture.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 4:19 a.m. CST

    Briestro: Agreed About The Music

    by Media Messiah

    Daft Punk is a weak group, whom are musicians, via an edit button. They are very limited computer producers, and their score sounds like it. As for the Academy Awards, they just pick their friends for best score, best song score, and best song. You don't have to write a great song, songs, or score, you just have to be connected. It's a good 'ol boys club--same with the Grammys, however. I have been a N.A.R.A.S. member in the past, and for the life of me, I still don't know how the nominations are picked? The folks that were nominated this year are a joke--as with every year!!! There are no serious nominations for Nine Inch Nails (if at all), and no Depeche Mode that I have heard of? Remember, these are the same folks that refused to give the Beatles an award until the 80s, about 13 years, post...the end of the band?

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 5:33 a.m. CST

    That blurry Comic-Con footage

    by Ghostball

    ...gave an awesome, awesome vibe, and the deserved audience hysteria at the end clinched it, but ever since the crystal clear shots of the non-Flynn leads started being been shoved everywhere, I started getting a Worthington / Saldana vibe... they don't really look like they've ever seen, or experienced, shit, and probably never will. That's not to say they can't act, I haven't knowingly seen them in anything before and I quite honestly haven't felt inclined to search for any clips of Legacy, for fear that we're gonna get burned, Avatar style. Most people are gonna go for the FX, sure, but Harry's review here hasn't said SHIT about whether there's any actual dramatic tension, or whether any of the "non-Dudes" are actually any good - I smell a RAT here guys. <p>So for now, I'm let with that fucking great Com-Con imagery in my head (dark, no wish fulfilment, no Twighlight-audience demographic deference), and the awful "Aren't we cool! Aren't we coo!" playtex lycra bodystocking posters...

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Watched Tron Legacy last night..

    by IMC1965

    ..made 'Speed Racer' look like a masterpiece. No gasps of excitement from the audience at any point. Thought I was sitting in a sponsored silence. And Sheen's Bowie impersonation was one of the most annoying things you will see on screen this (or any) year.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 6:06 a.m. CST

    if i represent any percentage....

    by Bouncy X

    (i probably dont but) the movie might do well enough. i recently re-watched the original because i hadnt seen it since i was a kid. i thought it sucked and was boring as hell then...turns out it still does and is. BUT...despite how much i dislike it, Part 2 looks pretty damn cool and i'm likely gonna see it. some movies are just eye candy and there's nothing wrong with that...this is one of those and they tend to do well. so if there are many people like me, it might be decently received.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 7:29 a.m. CST

    The original tron

    by knowthyself

    Is really just all special effects with a few cool memorable moments involving cars and frisbee games. The story is lack luster and over all it's a movie we remember fondly but doesn't really do much for you when your an adult.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Read the CHUD Review . . .

    by kevinwillis.net

    "There’s a great look to the film, but when it invokes the outside grid world, it has the same problem as the Matrix sequels where it wants you to care about a humanity (or programanity) you have no sense of"<br><br> That's all I had to read to know I'm gonna love it. I loved the Matrix sequels, especially reloaded, and although I fast forward through the cave-dance sequence every time, I savor every moment spent fighting the virus twins, the freeway fight, the dialog between the architect and Neo (my gosh, do I love that) and the Merovingian. Matrix revolutions is a much weaker film than Reloaded, but I enjoy them both. But if dude is going to lump Tron Legacy in with Matrix Reloaded . . . he may think that's a bad thing, I think it's awesome.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 7:54 a.m. CST

    I found tron

    by lsrdsc

    Simply by searching on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbOLqgEptS0& feature=youtube_gdata_player

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

    The Original Tron

    by kevinwillis.net

    Just watched it again for the Nth time last night. Still love that movie. Yes, it may be an artifact of its time, but from the odd story to the dialog to the religious overtones to the cast (David Warner? Barnard Hughes?) the seriousness of the acting in big black rooms in white leotards . . . crazy good movie. And imminently quotable. I know, because I've gotten 2,415 times smarter since then.<br><br>Dillingers desktop computer? Flynn discovering his users powers (a little disappointed that the CHUD review suggests Sam never discovers anything special about being a user within the grid, but, ah, well). <br><Br>And I really like the structure of the script (everything is carefully built, story wise, if you pay attention, even if some dialog is stilted ("he also had access to you"). Like the early debate between Walter Gibbs and Dillinger:<br><br> Walter: You know, you can remove men like Alan and me from the system, but we helped create it. And our spirit remains in every program we design for this computer. <br><br> Ed Dillinger: Walter, it's getting late, I've got better things to do than to have religious discussions with you.<br><br> ----- <br><br> Tron: If you are a user, then everything you've done has been according to a plan. <br><br> Kevin Flynn: Ha! You wish. <br><br>But lots of people think 2001: A Space Oddysey is boring and stupid, too, and that's another big of ponderous sci-fi I absolutely love.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Ban Irritating Talkbackers yourself

    by kevinwillis.net

    Using Firefox and Greasemonkey. Then Use the AICN power mod. Block irritating users and hi-lite your own posts, see how long your subject line can be, among other things.<br><br> http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/72709

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 8:06 a.m. CST

    The Original Tron is Groundbreaking...

    by Pawprint

    in that it was the first use of 'CGI'. This does not alter the fact that it was however, and will remain, in my experience an absolutely mind-numbingly boring film. And I was the target audience age when it was released.<p> Nobody in my peer group, friends, aquaintances, etc, gives a fuck about either the original or this new film. One of my friends who is a fairly knowledgeable 'geek' didn't even know there WAS a sequel until the other day, and when he found out he basically said he'd even forgotten the original existed, despite it's pioneering credentials.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Is anyone following the online Tron campaign?

    by orcus

    Apparently there are meetups in 18 cities? Anyone know about this?

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST

    This is damn hilarious:

    by darth_aig

    http://bit.ly/anlqW6

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Definitely a nostalgia thing...

    by Kurema

    When I was a kid, TRON was completely off my radar for some reason. I finally got around to watching it for the first time recently, and for a guy in his mid-twenties getting introduced to TRON, I gotta say, I was unimpressed. Don't get me wrong, I can watch Jeff Bridges in anything, and he is the only thing that kept me from turning it off. I can appreciate dated effects, but this was a bit painful to sit through. I might see the new one, but I'll only be there for Bridges and Daft Punk.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 2:18 p.m. CST

    LOL impress halle berry?

    by chainsaw_shawn

    Why not jessica alba she's hotter, younger and more sexier. And besides she'll go down on a brotha. lol

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Orcus: Not Really

    by kevinwillis.net

    I couldn't make a meet up. I'll be happy if I can just get my butt in a seat to see the movie. <br><br>It's not just a nostalgia thing. It's actually a good film--it's just not a typical film. It lacks the ADD pacing of modern films. No shalky-cam. Watch it 100 times, like I have. It's a good flick. Just takes a little effort to fully appreciate.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 6:43 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator "FAIL FAIL FAIL PWNED FAIL"

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    Spoken like a true video game homo with no life. Tell me son, have you ever sucked a titty?....your Mom doesn't count....neither does your dog's nipples or your Dad's cock. ....PWNED

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 6:44 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator = Catamite

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    Google it faggot

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 6:49 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator

    by KING_TROLL_VIII

    I heard Michael Jackson use to use your anus as his own personal cock moisturizer. May he rest in peace

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 7:29 p.m. CST

    darth aig

    by deelzbub

    that shit is funny. Shelby is a funny meow!

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Kurema gotta have perspective man...

    by MurderMostFowl

    watch the "making of" stuff on the DVD to understand what went into making the effects... then realize that 80% of the country didn't even know what Computers really even were at the time. many people simply thought they were toys.... fads even. I remember trying to explain Tron to my friend's mother when I was a kid and she looked at me like I had gone completely insane. <BR><BR> if you're in you 20's you have never been alive in the period where computers weren't considered a legitimate world. It's easy for you to aceppt because it's reality now. Back then it wasn't the same. The majority of internet "culture" that exists now comes from people and traditions of geek and nerd subculture that was utterly mocked and rejected. Hell... even posting to a forum like this in the 80's was met with ridicule.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST

    FUCK TRON

    by Crusher Creel

    I could give a fuck

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST

    PROTO-GOBLIN?

    by Crusher Creel

    Somewhere Sam Raimi and The Vulturess are laughing...

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST

    It's a Gen X thing, you Millenials wouldn't understand...

    by BurnHollywood

    We're gonna give you so much shit if they ever make a LINK or ZELDA movie, though...

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Legend of zelda movie?

    by chainsaw_shawn

    Hmmm i thought that was done before back in the days it was called legend with tom cruise? lol.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 9:58 p.m. CST

    chainsaw_shawn

    by BurnHollywood

    No way. Darkness would eat Ganon for breakfast...<p> But hey, wasn't SUPER MARIO BROTHERS THE MOVIE something?

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST

    LOL@super mario.

    by chainsaw_shawn

    Now i dont knock super mario completely because bob hoskins pulls off a very great new york accent i didnt even know he was british! fuck me! lol. Oh and your right compared to each other the Gannon is a pussy compared to darkness.

  • Dec. 3, 2010, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Long story short: 2010 version of TRON!

    by onezeroone

    Like that one, it is all visuals, and some cool music to go with it too, nothing else. In other words, EXACTLY what TRON fans wanted.

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 12:52 a.m. CST

    LOL, Harry is TRYING to love this! Tron is..

    by LowDevil

    simply not a great movie. Just love 82 and move on Harry.

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Underwhelmed by this so far...

    by donxavier

    I want to be excited by it, as I liked the first film, but I just can't. Sure the first film had its flaws but once Flynn was digitized and brought into the computer system, the costuming and environment looked like what a sterile computer world might resemble. In contrast, the people in this sequel look no different than your or I, except that they're going around in biker gear with neon highlights. It makes it hard to believe Flynn's son is running around inside a computer. He could just as easily have been thrown into the Blade Runner universe. That would be fine if this was Blade Runner 2, but it's not. Also, the digital skin grafting they use to make Clu appear to be a much younger version of Flynn is a failure. Instead of appearing younger Clu stands more as an example of what Jeff Bridges would look like after really bad plastic surgery. I think this one is going to be a rental...if even that.

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 4:28 a.m. CST

    Oh just shut the fuck up.

    by Spacezilla

    Man some of you geeks have turned into such chicks lately. More of a bitch then a bitch. <P> Oh fuck this movie with its dazzling look and tripped out story, with cool actors who are totally into it, and its kick ass soundtrack. Unless all the male actors are crying just as much as they do in Lord of the Rings, then the movie obviously sucks. Fuck this original state of the art sequel to a geek favorite. There will definitely not be 10 endings and hours of watching all the actors walk for miles. <P> God forbid we can just have a big budgeted tripped out original FUN sci fi action flick that fucks our eyes and ears. <P> Go back to your chick flicks and syfy soap opera's. Pussy's.

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 4:36 a.m. CST

    LOL@spacezilla

    by chainsaw_shawn

    there's alot of killing in lord of the rins too, does it make us a bitch to like it too? you r crazy!

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 6:24 a.m. CST

    I'm not enthusiastic about this movie.

    by Hesiod2k7

    I too saw Tron when I was a kid, and while I thought it was OK, I was far more interested in the video game spin off than the movie. So, it's like "meh" for me. Doesn't make me all that excited. And, when one reviewer compared it to "Speed Racer" I figured it's probably not very good.

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 9:37 a.m. CST

    donxavier is right about the look

    by ufoclub1977

    The new Tron doesn't look as cool as the old one because it doesn't use the rigid geometric camera movements and other-worldly skin tones, doesn't seem electronic. But as someone pointed out to me, games these days just look like movies and emulate real footage. It does make the new Tron look a bit like live Tron on ice. Hmmmm... 127 Hours, Black Swan... or Tron?

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST

    harrys reviews

    by satansteve

    I used to find myself drawn to harrys reviews...now i find myself skimming until he actually gets to the movie. There seems to be a lot of putting it in context, a lot of "when I was a kid, I saw this movie and I geeked out and so I am blinded by unwavering sentimentality" and so the whole review seems bias. Not a complaint, more a constructive critique. Anyway, this movie looks bitching.

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Why are Harry's reviews always about Harry instead of the film?

    by LargoJr

    Kinda wanted to see more written about the FILM Quadruple X.... *sigh*

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Satansteve....

    by ClayG

    That should be 'so the whole review seems BIASED.' Two things undermine your credibility here...the fact that you don't realize 'biased' is past tense, and the fact that you're the only person in the universe who puts a 'g' on the end of 'bitchin' (as in cool, not as in complaining).

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 1:37 p.m. CST

    I love the 3D only on the Grid idea!

    by theyreflockingthisway

    It reminds me of the Wizard of OZ too with OZ being in colour. I thought they were going to do the same thing with Alice In Wonderland too but, when there was no change when we got into Wonderland, I just concluded that the 3D was shit.

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Mori's review at Hitfix:

    by DocPazuzu

    "In fact, if I had to describe the film in the most concise way, I would call it a Fleshlight. If you don't know what that is, go look it up (as long as you're not at the office.) It is, in my opinion, the perfect way to sum the film up. It looks like the real thing, and it might get you off, but it is plastic, phony, and utterly soulless." <p> Ouch.

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Yep Drew McWeeny aka Moriarty tears Tron apart

    by Dislodged

    Good to know there are reviewers out there who aren't sheep and have the balls to call a turd a turd.

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST

    McWeeny burned thousands of words to savage "Tron"

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    McWeeny's "Tron Legacy" review reminds me of a friend of mine who sharpens his claws whenever anybody mentions "The Dark Knight" or "Spider-man 2." He comes down harder on those films than he does for films that are actually bad because of their perceived potential, the fact that most of us hold them up as the best of their kind and his own perceived "critical flaws" in their logic. I'll admit that Harry's tone does in fact seem a little defensive, and he openly admits it isn't perfect and that not everyone will love it like he does, but McWeeny's tone seems completely out of control bitter and angry. I haven't seen it yet, but I can't imagine it demands that kind of sadistic lashing from what I've seen so far.

  • Dec. 4, 2010, 11:04 p.m. CST

    *fingers crossed*

    by vivalabeck

    im really hoping to be blown away by this. i can't even remember the last time i had that feeling of being transported to another world by a movie. inception did that at first, but the thrill faded with repeated viewings. and avatar didnt even come close.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Chainsaw_Shawn: Impressing Halle Berry...

    by Media Messiah

    ...serves as a metaphor for being readied for the big conquest, in life, career wise, or otherwise. You just don't jump into bed with the best, and think that you can beat them at their own game, no--you have to go do your research, and learn your stuff, and their's, so you can beat them--so when it is time for you to perform, if you have been fucking Jenna Jameson as your coach and training partner, metaphorically, by the time you are ready to get in the ring and fuck Halle Berry, Cher, Beyonce, Katy Perry, or whomever else, you will not only be ready, but you will blow their fucking minds-out--and they will be singng your praises!!!

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 12:55 a.m. CST

    Chainsaw_Shawn: On Jessica Alba--She's Younger...

    by Media Messiah

    ...and regarding the hotter, in some ways...she is, but being younger, most young women don't know what they are doing in bed, or are selfish out of vanity--where as, older women...are sexual pigs in bed--meaning, they have seen it all, and nothing is forbidden with them--the freakier, the better--no religious hang-ups, mommy or daddy issues, no hang-ups on an ex, or ego problems--and that fact alone, makes them much hotter. You don't have to ask for a blow-job, they'll be giving you blow-jobs, threesomes, and "around the world" action, around the clock, to the point where you might consider saying no, just out of being overly tired from all the sex.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 3:42 a.m. CST

    Just for once, Harry-

    by Playkins

    Could you please refrain from prefacing every review you do with how significant whatever the fuck it is to your childhood? Really, I don't think anyone else cares.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Spacezilla: How about YOU shut the fuck up.

    by Playkins

    Talkback is about opinions. What difference is it to you that someone else has one? We all know that it's probably 100% given that every single person (bitching or not) will see it anyway.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 4:44 a.m. CST

    clayg

    by satansteve

    quit your bitchin

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 7:33 a.m. CST

    HansBubi

    by MandrakeRoot

    Another Avatar affair? People will be lucky if it's half as good as Avatar. When Tron:Legacy shatters records and shows up with Best Picture nominations - and wins -in countless outlets, then we can talk. I love how people act like it's established that Avatar was some middling effort...yet it still managed to reach #10 in times best films of the decade. <p> Sure reviewers have brought up criticisms of the script, but many reviews have praised it on that aspect. Yes it's got occasional clunky dialogue, and many characters were 2D, but it's expertly paced, and tells a classic tale we all know in it's own way. It may be predictable, but at the end of the day there is nothing out there like Avatar. The fact alone that Cameron made audiences worldwide care about two CGI rendered aliens is proof of it's remarkable achievement.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST

    *Time

    by MandrakeRoot

    And regarding the critical praise - not to say the critics are always right or wrong - it takes something more then hollow spectacle to get those positive results. We see amazing CGI spectacle films released all of the time now (2012, Transformers, the Tron sequel, etc), but those movies suck (excluding Tron obviously), and no 3D or flawless CGI would change that.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 8:56 a.m. CST

    @MediaMessiah good points?

    by chainsaw_shawn

    You say young chicks got hangups? Really? if anything they are just as freakier now than they were before back in the day, i dont know any chicks who hasnt gone downtown! lol. And why the fuck would i want cher??? Halle berry isnt all that nowadays. this first time movie by this first time director is a good thing. He's impressed me! Im gonna be fine with jessica alba, show her how it's done... just like this Tron Legacy. lol.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 9:54 a.m. CST

    YOU LIKED FOUNTENHEAD?!! FUCK!!--YOU'RE CRAZY !!!!!

    by JonChambers

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    NO MENTION OF BATHROOM BREAKS - WHAT GIVES??

    by JonChambers

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 11:05 a.m. CST

    SO. . . . WAS THIS A 4-BONER MOVIE??

    by JonChambers

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST

    still havent seen avatar

    by satansteve

    Everyone (mass media, not anyone whose opinion I actually respect) proclaiming it the second coming of christ in 3D put me off because A) Im not religious and B) I wasn't that excited by the proclamation that it was "the best -looking movie ever" as I have heard it called and I was just not at all interested. Have I missed out?

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Olivia Wilde's nude ass-shot in a magazine

    by KilliK

    see and fap: http://bit.ly/h1pSuR

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Regardless of how much/many the reviews are favoring Tron

    by KilliK

    the real question is this: how much money is the movie going to make at the end of the movie? that's what matters for Disney and for the fans,because if the movie turns out to be even a modest but disappointing success we can kiss goodbye to the sequels,the tvseries,the cartoon,the videogames,the comics,the games and all the rest things that would come.<br /> <p>I dont know about you but as i am concerned:<br /> <p>1.I want to see again the volcano Wilde in another Tron movie.<br /> <P>2.I want a TRON MMORPG game pronto.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Space(bridze)zilla is off his meds again

    by donxavier

    I've been watching your posts on this topic and I have to ask: are you a studio plant? You so staunchly champion a movie, before it's even been released, with such unwavering devotion that it makes me wonder. "We can also really get down with Disney Taking such a gamble and taking so many risks for Tron. Tron 2 is a really inspired and daring project." You sound like a commercial for the movie. How do you know if it's inspired or even daring? Have you seen it? Doubtful, as it's not even out in theaters yet. If you're not a studio plant maybe you're a troll, just posting inflammatory remarks in order to get a rise from the community because it's the only way people will notice you. Or maybe you're twelve after all. Not too hard to believe given how you pepper your vocabulary with an excessive use of expletives and your intolerance of the opinions of others: "Man some of you geeks have turned into such chicks lately. More of a bitch then a bitch." "Yea because you know that Tron 2 doesn't have any substance. What an awesome gift you have to know all these things before you have ever seen it." You haven't seen it either. How do you know it's going to have substance or... be inspired? "It must suck to be old. You get all negative and can't just get excited about movies that just look fun anymore. How old are you SithMenace so I will know at what age I should kill myself." It must be awful to be a kid, so naive and impressionable, readily believing anything the critics tell you and easily distracted by shiny things. Space, cut the garbage. If you are excited about Tron 2...fine. Just realize that not everyone feels the same. This is a public forum and people have a right to post their opinions, free from retaliation from some one that is obviously threatened when others don't like the same things they like. It's called tolerance and whether you're a kid or an adult it's never too late, or early, to acquire some. I can see you now sitting in front of your computer, reading this. Getting angrier with each passing word and fuming that someone's opinion differs from yours. Go ahead...hit me back. I know you're going to because it's what kids do.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 2:15 p.m. CST

    DVD?

    by NixEclips

    Why would I want to pay $80 for a DVD? I'll just not put in my LaserDisc, as always.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST

    FFS Harry!!!

    by angry_spacboy

    Can you please just throw in a rating out ten somewhere in your reviews, to save us having to read through yet another shit tale from your childhood.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Harry, please answer question?

    by Jearl

    Harry, can you or someone else who's seen the movie tell me who the villain of the film ultimately turns out to be. I'm guessing it turns out to be more than Clu. My email is carolyn@nemont.net. Please.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Harry

    by Sprinky

    I thought this was your review. Why mention what everybody (will) think(s). Other than the great visual effects the story of Tron 2 is dissapointing IMO.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 7:45 p.m. CST

    I hated it!!

    by MovieGeekBlog

    I wanted to like it by I just couldn't Harry, you've lost me. http://wp.me/p19wJ2-7b

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 7:20 p.m. CST

    donxavier Dude....

    by Spacezilla

    Disney spending 200 miilion dollars to make a new Tron movie, and its a sequel not a remake or a reboot, a goddamn sequel to a sci fi movie that flopped isn't amazing to you? And it has a story that isn't all hand holding. And instead of getting a Zimmer, or whoever but instead commission Daaft Punk to score it... really dude, this isn't at all amazing to you? Look, I am a big fan of Disney, and I always loved Tron, I am excited as hell for it. The only plant fool is the one I have been smoking all day for medicinal reasons. I am also an art director for a magazine, and absolutely love what I am seeing from this new Tron. I am sorry for you if you aren't feeling it. Or any of you. Get off my dick about being excited for Tron. Some of you geeks just like to act like bitches for whatever reason I don't really care. You act all bitchy about Harry being excited about a movie? What the hell happened to you geeks... miserable son of bitches a lot of you have become. Cynical and act like babies, don't know what to do. Tron is coming in less then 2 weeks, this is a fucking awesome time!

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Seen it. Not Outstanding, Enjoyable nontheless...

    by Metebelis3

    Just got back from advance screening of Tron Legacy at the O2 in London - tldr version; enjoyable but not more. [/p] I'm same age group as Harry, and am fond of the original - was never gonna be world shattering, but was certainly fun, and along with Wargames, Automan, Whizz Kids etc. all from that era, got us thinking back then just how cool computers and clever techie stuff might one day be 'when the future comes' and we're all driving our hovercars and holidaying on the moon. [/p] At aged 8 or whatever, pretty reasonable expectations - but look how that turned out. Similar goes for Tron Legacy, expectations not reached but not for the reasons some might think. [/p] I went into this with my expectations down-sized from what all the hype would have us chomping for. The original was visually clever and fun - but it really was a single good idea that they ran with, 'Imagine if you got stuck in a computer game' how cool/scary/exciting would that be? Beyond that they played with some ideas and concepts in some inventive ways - the 'binary' creature, the whole 'mythical users' schtick, all cool clever and straightforward to grasp - just don't think too deep. That was a time when computers were still kinda new-fangled, futuristic things that only clever-clever people could use to dial in to Nuclear missile silos and or that could 'go wrong' and take over the world with, its scary Demon Seed! [/p] Move forward to today. Most people are familiar with computers and basic computing concepts now - meaning they are a whole lot LESS exotic and mind-boggling. Hell, most people have got one in their pocket right now - for making calls and listening to music on. And concept of 'being stuck in a computer game' now? For this generation of youngsters? Hell, they already ARE stuck in them, hour after hour in Grim Dwarves Crotch or whatever, or blasting holes through terrorists in what amounts to almost (they're getting there..) photo-realistic graphics with fully mo-capped protagonists around them. That charming concept of being 'in the game'? The kids are kind of already doing that. [/p] I'll skip over the plot of the movie - I think most people already know it, and I don't want to spoil it for those that don't. There is a minor spoiler in here but not significant. In broad strokes I'll mention what I liked and didn't like. Early in the movie with Flynn's son there's an unexpected kind of Jason Bourne vibe, even right down to the music, and the same story sequence which takes place at Encom, later seems to slide into a 'Batman Begins lite' scenario - I remember thinking this sequence could be a cool Nolan-verse Robin origin! This is not a bad thing. [/p]But as the movie rolls on we get more 'bits of things from other movies'. Whether these things pop out at you and how you feel about that may color your opinion on the movie somewhat because it affects the presentation of the story. The original movie's story was nice and simplistic - survive the game then beat the bad guy at the end. We didn't need to know too much about everything else. This time its more involved - for a more sophisticated audience, I suppose. Shame. [/p] The whole setup veers away from the simplistic premise of the original and tries to touch on some intriguing new concepts, Cora being one of them - this is frustrating because these ideas are often more interesting then what gets focussed on in the rest of the film. Furthermore, the through-line of the story gets cluttered with some superfluous analogies that really don't need to be there - I see WHY they are there, they just weren't needed or don't enhance what the audience has already grasped. [/p] - Example? We hear in one scene from a character that says she was taken in by a family of legit programs, during the great 'purge' when Clu's forces were hunting down those programs not considered part of the 'perfect order' ...I think you get the picture right? Pretty much the next scene is Clu standing before vast cohorts of his troops giving a rousing speech etc. etc. prepping for his great invasion. Again, you get the picture. [/p] Oddly enough before all that we have an appearance by the Merovingian from the Matrix. Not the actor but the character, more or less. He has a different name but essentially he represents almost the same role and plays the same part in the storyline, in the same setting - you'll know what I mean when you see the movie. This is only problematic because it kinda gets you wondering, what do programs actually do in their city? What do they do to hang out and why do they? The original Tron glossed over all this with machine code techno-babble and you kinda never wonder because the programs are all doing tasks for the MCP. [/p]But here, the whole concept of programs 'bargaining' with other programs, for power or wealth etc. is Matrix Revolutions ground and frankly better left untread - personally I think it muddies the worldview somewhat, and contradicts the Fuhrer analogy we see later. Again, we glimpse something of the 'program' society in the club sequence, but never properly fleshed out. Could have been good. Could have been shit. The story moved away from all that without looking back. [/p]Man, I never, thought I'd EVER say this but, this film would have been better being a bit LESS clever. It doesn't go the whole hog and pursue the more intriguing things it sets up (possibly with an eye to a sequel instead) ...so it kinda tantalises oldies like me who might've hoped for a deeper exploration of the whole Data-verse theme. And yet at the same time, it goes beyond the requirements of a pop-corn actioner, risking being a bit too high-brow and too low on corn, and a straight actioner is something I coulda lived with too. [/p] The stuff that DID work well (although somewhat tricky to follow in the 3D presentation I saw) were the action sequences, the Lightcycles rocked hard! The Light planes were pretty awesome too. Some of the disc combat action was tricky to get a sense of what was happening - particularly in the arena where you can't get a good beed on their surroundings, whats see-through, whats force shield etc. - that might have been to do with the 3D though. [/p] On the subject of the 3D, I'll be brutally honest. I'm an apologist for Avatar - yeah it brought nothing new to the table storywise - but I was thoroughly entertained by that film. Pure Jim Cameron. The 3d in Tron is sparse. For me, there are probably only a handful of scenes, if that, where it wowed me. The arena at the beginning, some of the Lightcycle action, some of the Lightplane action. Strangely, its sometimes more apparent and indeed effective, in the more intimate, character driven or emotionally significant moments. Truthfully? I'd say you wouldn't lose out much in seeing it in 2D. [/p] This is NOT the fault of the process. Even Avatar, as much as I loved it, it DIDN'T change the game for movies. Until directors and cinematographers find a visual vocabulary broad enough and effective enough to use the 3D visual space creatively we will have 3D which doesn't perform great in fast moving action sequences, and doesn't quite engage you when you really expect it to. Movie score was great - I liked The Bourne trilogy, and I loved the Batman movie scores, I just wasn't expecting to hear them in Tron. I guess thats a compliment. I guess. [/p] The leads - its hard not to like Bridges, he's always good in whatever he does. The guy playing the son? No idea who he is but he did a great job in a role that could, in the wrong hands say Hayden Christensen or Ryan Reynolds etc, have ended up being really unlikeable. A word on the CGI - amazing stuff all round, but Clu's first reveal - he looks kinda stiff and embalmed, yet later in the movie losing his temper at the fruit bowl and particularly during the speech to troops sequence its fucking amazing - wtf? intentional? All in all, I was entertained but I wouldn't go back to see it again. It could have been a more interesting movie by exploring some of the ideas raised - BUT that would have made it significantly more boring to people who are not me, and maybe not left enough time for more action.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Metebelis 3 - Fail!

    by Metebelis3

    Wtf happened to paragraphs?

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    moviegeek2000 I will not be giving you a hit to your shitty movi

    by Spacezilla

    suck it dude. You can keep Narnia and Potter.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Sorry for...

    by Metebelis3

    Dropping my pants and taking a big steaming dump on the boards. I'll come back when I've learnt how to use the interweb :(

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 8:52 p.m. CST

    moviegeek2000: Your Review Sucks As Much

    by kevinwillis.net

    As Harrys. In fact, it's worse, because I give Harry one point for appreciating the original Tron (which you, alas, are apparently incapable of) and deduct one point from you for having snow on your blog. Snow? That follows the cursor? Ugh.<br><br> That being said, I'm looking forward to this movie. I'm not going to lump Lisberger or Kosinski in with Kubrick, but most of the negative reviews I've heard about Tron seem to be similar to all the bad reviews 2001 got (and continues to get, from some quarters), and I love 2001 (as well as the original Tron), so I'm gonna take all the whining and bitching and even outright hostility (like Drew McWeeny's review at HitFix, which seems both unnecessarily angry and so intentionally missing the point it could rival one of Harry's reviews for incoherence) with a large grain of salt. I may regret that. I gave the prequels the benefit of the doubt when they came out. After Revenge of the Sith, I realized I had erred in my judgement. It may turn out to be the case here--but I'm not going to turn up my nose (or even really judge the movie) over the first viewing. If, after watching it 10 or 20 times things I don't like haven't won me over, then I might start judging it. But I'll wait until after I've seen it a few times.<br><br>And, of course, I want to judge it, finally, in the context of it's follow up movies, should the first one make enough money that there are follow up movies.<br><br>However, I will say this: I think this movie is immune to reviews. There will be no way to test this, but this is what I mean: if the marketing and appeal of this movie works on a general level, every critic in the world can pan it and it will make good box office. If the marketing and appeal do not work (and I don't mean to critics, or your friends, or this really great geek audience that you saw it with that should have loved it but didn't) generally, then no matter how many positive reviews there are or could have been, it wouldn't do well. <br><br>One thing they can't do (which they could do, to some extent, with the original Tron) is blame the marketing. I was a fanboy, and sought out all news of Tron when it originally came out. And it was sometimes very hard to come by.<br><br>That's not the case with Tron Legacy. If anybody doesn't want to go see it, it's not going to be because it was under promoted or they didn't know it existed. At this point, even if I had no interest in the franchise, I'd almost want to see it just because the energy of the non-stop marketing.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Metebelis: Regular Paragraph HTML

    by kevinwillis.net

    < p > or < br > but without the spaces will do it every time. Or, if you're using Firefox, install Greasemonkey and the AICN Power Mod and it will automatically insert the < br > for you wherever you hit return. <br><br> Yay!

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 8:56 p.m. CST

    BTW, I Just Got the BTTF Blu-Rays

    by kevinwillis.net

    If you're a BTTF geek (and, BTTF is at the top for me, residing in the same space as Flash Gordon and Tron), these Blu-Rays are crazy awesome. Great extras. I've barely scratched the extras yet. I can't wait to go through them all. Print looks great in HD. I love these discs. Looking forward to a Tron Blu-Ray, done right, at some point. Hope they do it.<br><br>Ah, well. That is all. For now. Still looking forward to Tron Legacy, despite the haters.

  • Dec. 5, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Repost, still liked it ...kevinwillis, cheers bud

    by Metebelis3

    Can't believe I forgot that! Thx! Anyway, now everyone can blame you when I re-post my 'wall o'crap', in slightly easier to read format ;) * <p>*May still contain traces of rambling. <p>Just got back from advance screening of Tron Legacy at the O2 in London - tldr version; enjoyable but not more. <p> I'm same age group as Harry, and am fond of the original - was never gonna be world shattering, but was certainly fun, and along with Wargames, Automan, Whizz Kids etc. all from that era, got us thinking back then just how cool computers and clever techie stuff might one day be 'when the future comes' and we're all driving our hovercars and holidaying on the moon. <p> At aged 8 or whatever, pretty reasonable expectations - but look how that turned out. Similar goes for Tron Legacy, expectations not reached but not for the reasons some might think. <p> I went into this with my expectations down-sized from what all the hype would have us chomping for. The original was visually clever and fun - but it really was a single good idea that they ran with, 'Imagine if you got stuck in a computer game' how cool/scary/exciting would that be? Beyond that they played with some ideas and concepts in some inventive ways - the 'binary' creature, the whole 'mythical users' schtick, all cool clever and straightforward to grasp - just don't think too deep. That was a time when computers were still kinda new-fangled, futuristic things that only clever-clever people could use to dial in to Nuclear missile silos and or that could 'go wrong' and take over the world with, its scary Demon Seed! <p> Move forward to today. Most people are familiar with computers and basic computing concepts now - meaning they are a whole lot LESS exotic and mind-boggling. Hell, most people have got one in their pocket right now - for making calls and listening to music on. And concept of 'being stuck in a computer game' now? For this generation of youngsters? Hell, they already ARE stuck in them, hour after hour in Grim Dwarves Crotch or whatever, or blasting holes through terrorists in what amounts to almost (they're getting there..) photo-realistic graphics with fully mo-capped protagonists around them. That charming concept of being 'in the game'? The kids are kind of already doing that. <p> I'll skip over the plot of the movie - I think most people already know it, and I don't want to spoil it for those that don't. There is a minor spoiler in here but not significant. In broad strokes I'll mention what I liked and didn't like. Early in the movie with Flynn's son there's an unexpected kind of Jason Bourne vibe, even right down to the music, and the same story sequence which takes place at Encom, later seems to slide into a 'Batman Begins lite' scenario - I remember thinking this sequence could be a cool Nolan-verse Robin origin! This is not a bad thing. <p>But as the movie rolls on we get more 'bits of things from other movies'. Whether these things pop out at you and how you feel about that may color your opinion on the movie somewhat because it affects the presentation of the story. The original movie's story was nice and simplistic - survive the game then beat the bad guy at the end. We didn't need to know too much about everything else. This time its more involved - for a more sophisticated audience, I suppose. Shame. <p> The whole setup veers away from the simplistic premise of the original and tries to touch on some intriguing new concepts, Cora being one of them - this is frustrating because these ideas are often more interesting then what gets focussed on in the rest of the film. Furthermore, the through-line of the story gets cluttered with some superfluous analogies that really don't need to be there - I see WHY they are there, they just weren't needed or don't enhance what the audience has already grasped. <p> - Example? We hear in one scene from a character that says she was taken in by a family of legit programs, during the great 'purge' when Clu's forces were hunting down those programs not considered part of the 'perfect order' ...I think you get the picture right? Pretty much the next scene is Clu standing before vast cohorts of his troops giving a rousing speech etc. etc. prepping for his great invasion. Again, you get the picture. <p> Oddly enough before all that we have an appearance by the Merovingian from the Matrix. Not the actor but the character, more or less. He has a different name but essentially he represents almost the same role and plays the same part in the storyline, in the same setting - you'll know what I mean when you see the movie. This is only problematic because it kinda gets you wondering, what do programs actually do in their city? What do they do to hang out and why do they? The original Tron glossed over all this with machine code techno-babble and you kinda never wonder because the programs are all doing tasks for the MCP. <p> But here, the whole concept of programs 'bargaining' with other programs, for power or wealth etc. is Matrix Revolutions ground and frankly better left untread - personally I think it muddies the worldview somewhat, and contradicts the Fuhrer analogy we see later. Again, we glimpse something of the 'program' society in the club sequence, but never properly fleshed out. Could have been good. Could have been shit. The story moved away from all that without looking back. <p>Man, I never, thought I'd EVER say this but, this film would have been better being a bit LESS clever. It doesn't go the whole hog and pursue the more intriguing things it sets up (possibly with an eye to a sequel instead) ...so it kinda tantalises oldies like me who might've hoped for a deeper exploration of the whole Data-verse theme. And yet at the same time, it goes beyond the requirements of a pop-corn actioner, risking being a bit too high-brow and too low on corn, and a straight actioner is something I coulda lived with too. <p> The stuff that DID work well (although somewhat tricky to follow in the 3D presentation I saw) were the action sequences, the Lightcycles rocked hard! The Light planes were pretty awesome too. Some of the disc combat action was tricky to get a sense of what was happening - particularly in the arena where you can't get a good beed on their surroundings, whats see-through, whats force shield etc. - that might have been to do with the 3D though. <p> On the subject of the 3D, I'll be brutally honest. I'm an apologist for Avatar - yeah it brought nothing new to the table storywise - but I was thoroughly entertained by that film. Pure Jim Cameron. The 3d in Tron is sparse. For me, there are probably only a handful of scenes, if that, where it wowed me. The arena at the beginning, some of the Lightcycle action, some of the Lightplane action. Strangely, its sometimes more apparent and indeed effective, in the more intimate, character driven or emotionally significant moments. Truthfully? I'd say you wouldn't lose out much in seeing it in 2D. <p> This is NOT the fault of the process. Even Avatar, as much as I loved it, it DIDN'T change the game for movies. Until directors and cinematographers find a visual vocabulary broad enough and effective enough to use the 3D visual space creatively we will have 3D which doesn't perform great in fast moving action sequences, and doesn't quite engage you when you really expect it to. Movie score was great - I liked The Bourne trilogy, and I loved the Batman movie scores, I just wasn't expecting to hear them in Tron. I guess thats a compliment. I guess. <p> The leads - its hard not to like Bridges, he's always good in whatever he does. The guy playing the son? No idea who he is but he did a great job in a role that could, in the wrong hands say Hayden Christensen or Ryan Reynolds etc, have ended up being really unlikeable. <p>A word on the CGI - amazing stuff all round, but Clu's first reveal - he looks kinda stiff and embalmed, yet later in the movie losing his temper at the fruit bowl and particularly during the speech to troops sequence its fucking amazing - wtf? intentional? <p> All in all, I was entertained but I wouldn't go back to see it again. It could have been a more interesting movie by exploring some of the ideas raised - BUT that would have made it significantly more boring to people who are not me, and maybe not left enough time for more action.

  • Dec. 6, 2010, 7:14 a.m. CST

    "The artist playing GOD and fucking it all up?"

    by WarrenSmooth

    So George Lucas is in it?

  • Dec. 6, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST

    original tron "modern" trailer

    by MurderMostFowl

    Makes the first movie look pretty damn badass! <BR><BR> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp2gGqgn3Fw <BR><BR> ( mind the gaps )

  • Dec. 6, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST

    MurderMostFowl

    by kevinwillis.net

    That trailer for the original Tron is awesome. And captures a lot of what I love about the film. Cannot wait for Legacy. Being able to read between the lines, I know I'm going to like it. The most negative (real) review I've read is from Drew McWeeny (formerly Moriarty), and most of the things he complains about sounds like positives to me. An important scene with a famous guy who may be important in the next movie? That pisses him off. I love it! Etc. Etc. Might not be perfect (both all the smoke and dust bugged me from the outset, not sure I love all the practical sets, Michael Sheen's character seems parodic, no Yori, not even (?) a passing reference to the old form of programs, light cycles, game grid, etc), no nods to the original Wendy Carlos score . . . all that is stuff *I* would have handled if I had been making the movie. But I'm not. And whatever it is, I'm going to enjoy it. Why not?

  • Dec. 6, 2010, 11:28 p.m. CST

    That new Trailer for Tron 1 is fucking AWESOME MurderMostFowl

    by Spacezilla

    ...you know I fucking love that now and forever whenever we hear something about Tron we will have to know whether it is about Tron 1 or Tron 2. I still can't believe there is a sequel to Tron. I just fucking love that. Thanks for the heads up about that trailer. That is really cool.

  • Dec. 8, 2010, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Harry...Paragraph breaks, for Christ's sake!

    by Grandpa Bunche

    Reading this is like trying to read a fucking ant farm!

  • Dec. 8, 2010, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Harry...Paragraph breaks, for Christ's sake!

    by Grandpa Bunche

    This is like trying to read a fucking ant farm!

  • Dec. 8, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Harry...Paragraph breaks, for Christ's sake!

    by Grandpa Bunche

    This is like trying to read a fucking ant farm!

  • Dec. 8, 2010, 1 p.m. CST

    Harry...Paragraph breaks, for Christ's sake!

    by Grandpa Bunche

    This is like trying to read a fucking ant farm!

  • Dec. 8, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    WTF, i just wanna know if it's good or not you fat fuck

    by Fulham_FC

  • Dec. 8, 2010, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Huh?

    by orcus

  • Dec. 8, 2010, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Awesome Review

    by mrbakasan

    Growing up watching Tron (I'm 29) I'd say that I have a similiar perception of what makes this movie so exciting. Reading Harry's review, which is coming from a true Tron fan, alleviates me of the concerns that I had that my expectations for this movie were just too high. Can't wait.

  • Dec. 9, 2010, 1:33 a.m. CST

    Holy Wall of Text Batman

    by Autodidact

    I wanted to skim, and hope to avoid spoilers. Gives me a little rush. But that wall of text is impenetrable Harold. Shame on you.

  • Dec. 9, 2010, 2:56 a.m. CST

    once again....

    by Russman

    an unreadable review. My god dude.

  • Dec. 12, 2010, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Oh brother, I was waiting on this until Harry's praises

    by The Founder

    I'll still see it but in the past when Harry starts singing a film praises and calling it great I left the theater feeling underwhelmed by what just saw.

  • Dec. 12, 2010, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Oh brother, I was waiting on this until Harry's praises

    by The Founder

    I'll still see it but in the past when Harry starts singing a film praises and calling it great I left the theater feeling underwhelmed by what just saw.

  • Dec. 12, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Oh brother, I was waiting on this until Harry's praises

    by The Founder

    I'll still see it but in the past when Harry starts singing a film praises and calling it great I left the theater feeling underwhelmed by what just saw.

  • This is a film with absolutely zero soul. Harry, if the original film was about something bigger than light-cycles, Tron: Legacy is an unabashed retroactive attempt to collect whatever merchandising money was left on the table by the original, culturally deeper film. </p> Where to start? "Tech sexy"? Are you kidding me? On a technical level alone, this film falls WAY short of the hype. </p> To say that the first 'non-Grid' part of the film is 2D and the rest is 3D is total horseshit that smacks of payola reviewing. The first part of the film does include some 3D unless I completely hallucinating during the initial motorcycle scene... And *several* of the scenes of the Grid are presented in 2D. Being generous, about 1/3rd of this film is in 3D and those scenes are mostly painfully paint-by-numbers. If this 3D is impressive to you after watching Avatar... you're a sap. The title sequences are literally the only 3D moments that made me go "wow. 3D is cool." I found 3D to be used effectively in this film a grand total of once- in a largely expository dialogue scene while Flynns and Olivia Wilde's Leeloo-rip off are making their final sprint to the portal.</p> The production design is fine and the look of the Grid world is admittedly cool, and if this movie had come out in the early-mid Aughts we would have all flipped out. But this movie is seriously behind the times. CLU looks like he stepped right out of Beowulf - there are maybe 2-3 out of 30 fx shots of CLU that work, and the ones that don't are the perfect example of the uncanny valley. I'm not one of the people who agreed that the N'avi jumped that gap, but CLU tried to jump the gap and broke his fucking face. It's laughably bad. Literally - and they make the reveal in the first like 30 seconds of screen time! Sets the tone for the whole film...</p> I won't even approach the story of the film, which does not exist. Go read the official synopsis on IMDB. Disney clearly did not care about the premise of the film so long as it had some cool toys. </p> Characterwise, there are only two real actors in the entire fucking film. Jeff Bridges, who gives a great performance - but not as Kevin Flynn. In this film, he plays Jeffrey Lebowski - I almost wonder if he does it as a nod to Bridges fans who he knew would find the entire affair to be an embarrassment. His Flynn moments in the film are literally the only vestiges of life. </p> The film's only other memorable performance is handed in by Michael Sheen, who seems to be THRILLED to be making some killer money playing Ziggy Stardust for 3 minutes. The scene makes the tribal rave of Matrix: Reloaded a lot more forgivable. </p> In general this is my main problem with the movie: it made me nostalgic for all of the shitty CG-heavy movies made in this decade. I spent good hours of my life ripping on the Star Wars prequels, Minority Report, The Island, etc... it's time I wish I had back to rant about this movie instead. The script makes Attack of the Clones seem crafted by the Coen brothers. The main character seriously makes Shia LaBeouf look good, the 3D is a treatise on marketing ploys, and the character CGI is legitimately on the level with Final Fantasy: Spirits Within. </p> I'm not going to say it's worse than Indie IV... but it's literally *just* the next notch up and definitely not as good as the third SW prequel. Rinzler, the character's is less cool than Darth Maul, by a lot. Flynn is about as likable as Shia LaBeouf's Mutt Williams, but about a million times more generic.

  • Dec. 12, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Saw an advanced screening in IMAX. Harry, you're real damn easy to please.

    by BattleAngel29A

    woops, got some of my deleted draft in there at the end. Meant to say that Rinzler, the movie's main "bad ass enforcer," is an unsuccessful recycling of Darth Maul... and *spoiler alert* actually IS a recycled character from the first film... not that this extremely crucial *coughtitlecharactercough* reveal is handled with any degree of enthusiasm by the filmmaker. No, one line of mumbled ADR will suffice.

  • Dec. 12, 2010, 10:12 p.m. CST

    also...

    by BattleAngel29A

    really went into this film wanting to love it. Just wanted to say that I'm not the kind of guy who delights in critically destroying a film... unless it genuinely deserves it ;)

  • Dec. 14, 2010, noon CST

    Gosh Harry really can't be trusted anymore.

    by again

    This looks like another Scott Pilgrim stinker.

  • Dec. 14, 2010, noon CST

    Gosh Harry really can't be trusted anymore.

    by again

    This looks like another Scott Pilgrim stinker.

  • Dec. 14, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Ya Know I'm A Fan Of The original Tron....

    by Real Deal

    And it's really too bad that the talkback has to plastered with Trollarama. I have no idea if this movie will be any good or not but I'm really looking forward to see what they've done with it.

  • Dec. 14, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST

    saw it last night

    by jon pertwee

    saw it last night at the red rock imax here in vegas courtesy of the flynnlives.com folks (and disney) and i'm pretty sure the other 70 or so geeks in attendance enjoyed the movie. sure there's a couple of problems (it could be a few minutes shorter, two they telegraph two important plot elements, there's a problem with continuity in one scene), but overall it delivered what, i hope, everyone was expecting. there's one thing they didn't do that i wish they had, but i won't say here, i'm sure when others see it they'll be wondering the same thing.

  • Dec. 14, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST

    I saw this at Skywalker Ranch last night

    by emeraldringer

    I saw this at Skywalker Ranch last night. The event was sponsored by Variety. I really wanted to like the movie but came away underwhelmed. When people complain about all flash and no substance, all effects and no story, a movie just being eyecandy, they're talking about movies like Tron: Legacy. There's absolutely no characters that you care about. The dialogue is nondescript. The only redeeming elements are when Jeff Bridges channels the Dude a few times. It's basically elements of Star Wars + Blade Runner + Rollerball. Yep, that sounds awesome. However, that's not the case here. This movie has no soul. One scene from the Los Angeles of Blade Runner holds more interest than the entire world of Tron:Legacy. It's too bad.

  • Dec. 15, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST

    movie is complete crap

    by WhySoSerious

    yes, it is complete crap

  • Dec. 15, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST

    How to tell when Harry's full of shit...

    by Beaverduck

    He'll describe everything BUT the movie with vivid detail. ..."I sat on the edge of my seat and smiled like a monkey in banana heaven, tail wagging and eyes bugging..."

  • Dec. 15, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST

    saw the original the other night

    by brotherbradshaw

  • Dec. 15, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST

    saw the original the other night on TV

    by brotherbradshaw

    It hasn't aged well. I think there's a reason it's hard to find a copy.

  • Dec. 15, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST

    "It was the idea that all the computers could be connected"

    by Moa Kaka

    Where does that come from? It's been years since I was Tron, but doesn't it all take place within a single mainframe? Sure, there are different programs running around, with the MCP absorbing them and not being happy about Tron running independently, but . . . "all computers could become connected"? Did I miss something? I don't remember anything like that. Or is that just bullshit made up for the review?

  • I don't remember this either. Man, my memory is shot to hell. Alcohol will do that to you. Kids, don't drink. Anyhoo, I always thought Tron was about stopping an evil dictator from taking control of *everything* - but in this case, the dictator was a form of artificial intelligence. This was still during the cold war, after all. But apparently I've totally missed the whole point of the first movie. Maybe I should just skip the sequel.

  • How will this computer change my life. I thought it was going to be about Harry's dick.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Typing Class

    by GoodTimeBobby

    Too bad it didn't inspire you to take a remedial English class in addition to that typing class Harry. Maybe you would've learned how to write something that wasn't a rambling, unreadable mess like this review.

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Currently splatting abysmally on RottenTomatoes

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    At 56% and dropping like a stone. Seriously Harry, you're getting to be like Walter Monheit's Blurb-o-mat in the old Spy Magazine. Aw hell, I only look at this site out of habit and late-90's nostalgia anymore anyway...

  • Dec. 16, 2010, 7:45 p.m. CST

    The first TRON was about embracing Christianity

    by GeorgieBoy

    It was NOT about "evil" corporations, but was a film against totalitarianism, nazism, and socialism. It feels like a high-tech anti-nazi movie from the 1940s. People forced to give up their way of thinking. Locked up. Thrown in internment camps. It said, "Embrace the Users (aka God), cast off totalitarianism, and life will be better."

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 5:05 a.m. CST

    WOW THAT WAS TERRIBLE

    by 23

    That movie sucked ass, what were they thinking? Three separate friends fell asleep during it. Good point whoever mentioned it wasnt wise to let a SFX guy helm this (SEE SKYLINE). Had high hopes for this but dragged MAJOR ass through the middle. Only to see Jef Bridges explode? Cmon What the hell is your review Harry? How can you be all over this movie. It was lame

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 5:17 a.m. CST

    @battleangel

    by 23

    said perfectly. Like final fantasy the spirits within. Not sure which had better CGI haha

  • Dec. 17, 2010, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Hmm

    by SpikedBuffy

    honestly I don't see what all the complaining is about. I thought it was very entertaining, I've been wanting to see it for awhile now, but maybe a lot of people here were expecting to see the second coming or something. It's still better than 70% of the crap Hollywood puts out these days. I could've done without the "have a nice swim" line. This will probably be hated by most and loved by a cult following exactly like the first one, which is fine.

  • Dec. 18, 2010, 5:14 a.m. CST

    but I loved...

    by Arghh

    I thought the movie was okay, but I love how it fired Harry's imagination ^_^

  • Dec. 19, 2010, 7:08 p.m. CST

    I loved it too. Wicked film!

    by Nebby

    Hey, it ain't Shakespeare -- nor need it be. If you want sheer entertainment with a bit of mind-twisting thrown in, go see this flick. The more I think about TRON Legacy, the more sense it makes. I dig it.

  • Dec. 20, 2010, 2:41 a.m. CST

    TRON geek for life? That's why you gave it a pass?

    by Ringwearer9

    I didn't much like the original TRON when I saw it on TV (too many commercials, probably), but, under the influence of the hype I did watch it on DVD about 4 times in the month prior to the release of TRON LEGACY. I kinda dug it, in it's old cheesy style. Flynn, Dillinger/Sark, the MCP, were all pretty good characters. Most of the programs had quirky personalities to them. I dug the religious philosophizing, and the blatant computer vs. night-time real world visual parallels. I also loved the sound design, and the music, and the light-strip set design of the computer world (I'm talking about the ORIGINAL Tron). What I liked about the marketing leading up to TRON LEGACY? I liked the comic-con trailer "It's only a game!" "Not anymore". I loved the Official Trailer # 2 that starts with Flynn and son talking about the computer world Flynn had found, and ends with the light jet forming, with Daft Punk's music perfectly matched to the on-screen images, and a promise of an exciting chess match between Flynn and CLU. I thought Olivia Wilde's character looked uber cool and sexy. Then I saw the movie. The trailer lied, it was not about a real chess match between two powerful opponents, but a boring hippy who sits and waits, and his raging kid who does dumb things and needs to be rescued, pulling dad out of his torpor. The acting was WORSE than the original TRON. The dialogue was 10 times dumber than the original TRON. The film had no sense of humor, while the original TRON did. The action was muddy and confusing, consisting of discs dramatically coming close to eachother, until somebody de-rezzed. In the ORIGINAL, I cared when CLU was tortured and derezzed, when the accounting program was murdered by Sark on the game grid. When Flynn was hanging from the light sail, you felt he was actually in real danger. In TRON LEGACY, however, I didn't care about anyone, really, even Jeff Bridges, who I thought would be the highlight. An absent father who doesn't even say "I tried for years to get back to you, son, but I couldn't do it" but instead gives this pussy speech about sitting and waiting? What a horrible depiction of neglect. So, I don't think being a TRON GEEK "for life" excuses giving this a pass. A bad movie is a bad movie, no matter how cool we WANTED it to be. I really resent Harry pulling that card out, the "If you are a REAL fan, you will like it" card. I think I'm a real enough fan, and I was bored to death by this horrible thing. The two main writers on this were producers/writers for LOST. If you liked that style of dumbass dialogue and timekilling but pointless action, maybe you'll like TRON LEGACY. As many have noticed, they seem to be stretching a barely thought out story to hopeful sequels, and stretching a barely thought out story worked so well for LOST, right?

  • Dec. 20, 2010, 2:45 a.m. CST

    On thing I liked ... Olivia Wilde's QUORRA

    by Ringwearer9

    She actually created a real character. With an appealing personality. Someone who enjoyed life. The only bright spark in this meandering mess. Kudos to you, Olivia Wilde, for bringing something good and alive to this dead movie.

  • Dec. 20, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Agree about Quorra...

    by RichardtheSmith

    I wish the subplot about the ISO's had been more developed. I also predict that Olivia Wilde will end up like Milla Jovovich, sort of the unofficial go-to gal for Sci-Fi "babe" characters. She really made the movie work, and I loved the ending. That part was perfect.

  • Dec. 20, 2010, 9:51 p.m. CST

    DVD Column?

    by fuckjayleno

    So... is that it for the dvd column? You have a few problems with the site and you give up on the one column that most people come here for?

  • Dec. 21, 2010, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Awesome look and soundtrack...

    by Gozu

    And there were some pretty interesting ideas that were never fleshed out at all. And it's not like they didn't have the time. For something so lacking in content, it sure did feel padded. Like honestly, there just could have been more to it and more ideas to be explored. And for those of you out there who are like, well, it's just a kids movie, consider "Toy Story 3" and the execution of the back-story of Lots-O-Huggin' Bear vs. CLU, whose motivations are murky at best. Meanwhile, production design and Daft Punk's score were just spot-on, which makes the problems with the story and pacing that much more obvious. It might walk like a duck and quack like a duck, but as soon as you put it in the water it drowns.

  • Dec. 24, 2010, 9:43 a.m. CST

    What a horrible movie ...

    by angel_svn

    egads ... almost as bad as Avatar. When the hell are people going to learn that a bad story isn't fixed with special effects? Eh?! Bah humbug!

  • Dec. 24, 2010, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Liked it. expected more

    by krylite

    Effects were great. Production design awesome. I didn't dislike it, actually enjoyed it. But in the end wished there was much more. Sad to say was underwhelmed. Agreed that I cared much more about the characters in the original movie. I'm not an expert. All I can sense is something lacking in the script and the characters. Felt like Matrix reloaded or AOTC minus yoda end duels. All the actors were fine; did the best with what they could with the script. Agreed Olivia Wilde is the first hot one in a while who can actually act.

  • Dec. 26, 2010, 3:54 a.m. CST

    Good Visuals?

    by christpunchers2007

    my hairy balls! Barely anything was 3D, it was hard to tell if it was supposed to be or not. The SFX was completely underwhelming. Just a waste of time all the way through.

  • Jan. 2, 2011, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Tron Story

    by Wrangler

    I went to see this movie few weeks ago. I was disppointed how the story was told. It seem very mediocre story. It seem to be building up to something, but wasn't much of a build up. Race to the Access Tower seem dumb. It was like they were trying reinact Star Wars's New Hope Episode with Millennium Falcon. It felt it was big low key for what was doing. The isolated computer premise was kinda crappy angle go with considered how retrained the story they came up with seem. I rather seen them dealing with the internet how what Kevin and Clu's actions were about changing it then try explain how military expedition force with Flying Aircraft Carrier going somehow squeeze through a small matter assembling laser in someone basement. It just felt too dumbed down for Tron. It had all the bell whisles to go beyond what it was but they kept from doing it. Movie peformance will likely not produce the sequel. The Tron Micro-Tv show is suppose to be super-kid friendly show. Doesn't bode well for the Franchise.

  • Jan. 9, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST

    ??

    by FlickaPoo

  • Jan. 9, 2011, 5:10 p.m. CST

    The other day ...

    by GINGE_MUPPET

    I watched Phantom Menace again for the first time in about 4 years .... Its horrific ... gets worse every time. Tron Legacy will suffer the same fate, modern movie making has removed effort and soul. Total shit.

  • Jan. 9, 2011, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Oh God Harry.

    by notcher

    Seriously, a whole new level of cool? Tron Legacy sucked, the light cycle battles were fucking boring, and so was the rest of the damn movie. The movie was just flat out BAD. Come on, the days of defending your favorite movie's sequel just because it's your favorite are over. The script is atrocious, and boring, and the effects are the star, which doesn't work, ask George Lucas. Fuck Harry, is there a shred of self-respect in your bones anymore? And yes, we all have our opinions, but God, how could anyone like Tron Legacy at all, let alone as much as Harry?

  • Jan. 9, 2011, 6:36 p.m. CST

    How fun!

    by Bass Ackwards

    Are we dredging up Harry's embarrassing raves for terrible movies? Godzilla, Attack of the Clones, Crystal Skull, Lovely Bones... I wonder which one will be next?!

  • Jan. 9, 2011, 6:44 p.m. CST

    I think you re-posted the wrong review Harry

    by MooseMalloy

    http://twitpic.com/1e7kg2

  • Jan. 9, 2011, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Crap: Crapacy

    by Crow3711

  • Jan. 9, 2011, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Well I LIKED it so frak all you haters.

    by ReportAbuse

    I enjoyed the hell out of Tron: Legacy. Despite not having great expectations going in to it (I keep reminding myself NOT to read a bunch of negative reviews prior to seeing a movie ... I even linked to a couple of them way up above in this thread, before I saw the flick.) I am also not a Tronhead by any stretch of the imagination. I saw the original one when it first came out twenty-eight hundred years ago but not since then. Anyway, I saw T:L in 2D (which might've made a difference?) and it was just a lot of fun. NOT one of 2010's top ten, but not among the worst of the year either. I enjoyed it way more than Avatar in '09 because it didn't take itself so seriously and the story was a little more complex (also, the 3D glasses in Avatar were giving me a headache). It's better than either of the Matrix sequels, which might not be saying much, but still. The only really big missteps that I caught while watching T:L was the inexplicable failure to show us Tron's face in the final battle (and his inexplicable switching sides without motivation) and the crappy cgi on Flynn in the beginning of the movie, when he was supposedly still in the real world. I didn't mind the crappy Flynn/Clu face in the Grid so much, as you could chalk it up to an artifact of the Grid itself. Loved the production design and the music.

  • Jan. 9, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST

    And of course, Jeff Bridges ...

    by ReportAbuse

    Best thing in T:L along with Olivia Wilde and that blonde iso chick that worked for the Merovingian / David Bowie type dude at the nightclub. Between T:L, True Grit and Crazy Heart, Bridges is THE man of 2010.

  • Jan. 9, 2011, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Wait a minute..?

    by D o o d

    So you have absolutely NOTHING NEGATIVE to say about the movie..???!! This review is terrible as the movie was total horse shit. Yes it looks cool but that's all borrowed from the original movie and is the only saving grace. Here's why I know none of the reviewers are true Tron officianados. Not one has mentioned the point at which flynn gets sucked into "computer land", there is this awesome travelling sequence through a tunnel and then into the styalised world of Tron and then finally down the beam. In the new film all that happens is this dumb pixelisation and snap he's in! Even though the terrible process of 3D was begging for that sequence! Go figure!

  • Jan. 9, 2011, 9:46 p.m. CST

    d o o d my exact thoughts.thank you.

    by jack black

    you have state of the art cgi technology,you have the best artists in the world to assist you with the art design of the film,you are using 3D which begs for the wormwhole transition effect between the two worlds and you dont fucking use it? that clearly shows that as a director you are completely clueless about the true beauty and content of the original movie.

  • Jan. 9, 2011, 10:41 p.m. CST

    kilik

    by D o o d

    thanks for backing me up man, I'm astonished that none of the reviewers have picked up on that. I know it's just one point in many many mistakes in this movie. Harry thinks CLU was good! Seriously, that was the single worst bit of CG I've seen where so much money was spent to make sure it was done right! What a waste of money!

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 12:28 a.m. CST

    TL has made well over 260 Mil...

    by MST3KPIMP

    It's done 147mil domestic and box office mojo has the foreign totals at 110mil but many of the countries haven't been updated in over 2 weeks. Is there a better place to see the most up to date totals?

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Why?

    by Goodplacetoshoveit

    What is the point of a review nearly a month after the movie hit cinemas? Anyone that was even remotely interested has probably seen it, they're not going to wait a month to read what some self important turd thinks before seeing it.

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 5:15 a.m. CST

    Quorra in real world...

    by redtom

    ...where'd she get her body? eh? eh? Even my 12 year old self would've been wondering about that one... I mean, Agent Smith got downloaded into yer man's body, and Neo was always in 'Thomas Anderson's body, so that explains that... Tsk, tsk...

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 5:16 a.m. CST

    tron legacy

    by emeraldboy

    was a very boring movie. I am glad the phone call I had to take took me out of the movie literally. I did not go back in to the cinema to watch the rest of it. I found it to be utterly dull. and those read 3d glasses are terrible. you barely see anything of the effects on screen. I cant tell difference between 2d and 3d. whole thing is a gimmick and the sooner 3d goes away the better.

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 8:07 a.m. CST

    redtom it's called E=mc2

    by jack black

    you know that famous equation that a famous scientist discovered.

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Quorra's body (SPOILERS)

    by CreamCheeseAlchemist

    Flynn Sr's disc was needed to bring beings from the grid, most likely because they needed DNA to manifest in the real world. Which begs the question, does it work like stem cells- reprogrammed code based on the individual- or is Quorra now genetically Sam's sister?

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 12:23 p.m. CST

    bilboring!

    by Shaner Jedi

    you know the reason for no Game of Thrones coverage here. It's based on a book. Books have words. You need to be able to read and actually imagine shit instead of having it spoon fed to you. Do you think someone who just wrote what they did about Tron Legacy, a complete mess of a movie, is going to go anywhere near an adaptation of one of the most thoroughly descriptive novels in modern times? No.

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 1:01 p.m. CST

    shaner jedi

    by emeraldboy

    it also explains why there has been no review of the kings speech, which is not based on a book. but its based on real events. and its not shot in texas, not directed by QT and RR. its produced by the weinsteins and any praise of them, harry knows will get a nasty reaction from talkbackers who loathe Harvey and Bob.

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST

    The movie will age very well

    by TheSecondQuest

    It's definitely a movie whose popularity will increase over time, as it's a movie that rewards multiple viewings. I wasn't a huge fan of the original film, but there's something about this movie that compels you to rewatch it immediately after it's over (a sensation I've never experienced with a film before). And, regardless of what one actually thinks about the quality of the actual story, this is an extremely well-plotted/structured film (so far as everything in the film is either properly foreshadowed/explained, structurally supporting the concept of "reflections" and mirrored concepts or an homage to the original film) that should be held up as an example to other screenwriters. (there's really only one plot hole in the film (how Clu sent the page)- and even that is likely to be an intentional seed for a sequel (a copy of Clu in Alan's pager) and, thus, not a plot hole) Now, granted, Legacy's script HAS to be air-tight since the story itself is straight-forward and can't hide flaws behind a complex structure (like, say, Inception can). I've now seen the film 4 times, and I'm still discovering new nuances and revelations about it. Beyond that, the film is just fun (and I'm not just talking about the lightcycle battle- as I thought that was the least interesting part of the film). The characters are having fun and that's a refreshing conveyance to the audience in an age where most genre heroes have been gloom-and-doom emo's.

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Why do people still maintain that this bombed?

    by PeopleCallMeTheBriMan

    $147M domestically. $110M foreign. Domestic box office has been incredibly steady hanging around $10M per week for the last few weeks. Bombed? Unless I'm missing something I would call this a box office hit.

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Correction

    by PeopleCallMeTheBriMan

    Domestic weekend box office totals: Weekend #1 - $44M Weekend #2 - $19.1M Weekend #3 - $18.7M Weekend #4 - $9.8M Estimated total domestic box office $170M. Pretty impressive for a sequel to a movie that came out almost 3 decades ago.

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 3:15 p.m. CST

    braindrain

    by emeraldboy

    real 3d is an umitigated failure of a company. thier product doesnt work. this is the third film I have seen in real 3d and I dont want to see anymore. Unless they radically overhaul thier product. till then I'm out. make that 4 films. corpse bride, avatar, toy story 3 and tron legacy

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 3:19 p.m. CST

    peoplecallmethebriman

    by emeraldboy

    people on this site our ignorant about box figures and such like, they fall back on a canard, that if the movie is awful, it will bomb. even if they havent seen it. which is stupid.

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Tron Legacy

    by D o o d

    I wreckon Tron Legacy will need to make upwards of around $600 million. The movie cost about $200 million, however, the marketting campaign was HUGE. It went on for a good 2 years before the release of the film. So technically, the film bombed!

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Enjoying a 3d movie without the glasses...

    by mem_ory

    must mean that you are cross-eyed.

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Imax experience

    by mem_ory

    I'll be buying the eventual blu-ray but I wonder how well the film will hold up without the thunder and visual awe of IMAX. My main problem with the film was the reliance on back story and CGI Flynn. The effect should of been utilized specifically on CLU. I bought into CLU as being a not quite real version of Flynn. I almost wish they would of done a re-boot-- trying to chronologically link a sequel to Tron, made twenty-five years earlier, just didn't quite work.

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 5:22 p.m. CST

    re mem_ORY

    by emeraldboy

    I agree with you about Real 3d completely

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 5:41 p.m. CST

    TRON has crossed 300 Million

    by MST3KPIMP

    Box Office Mojo has updated its foreign totals and it put the tally up to 291 million. However they have yet to update over two dozen countries so you can conclude the 300 mark has been crossed.

  • Jan. 10, 2011, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Tron wasn't in it much.

    by Yelsaeb

    The movie's called Tron, you'd figure he'd be in it for more than fifteen minutes. And I still haven't seen the first Tron. I'm waiting patiently for that Blu-ray, Disney. In other Tron related news, I was watching Dead Space Downfall and noticed that Bruce Boxleitner was in it. I had no idea.

  • Jan. 11, 2011, 8:24 a.m. CST

    saw it last week - it was spectacular

    by zapano

    as in it was a truly amazing visual spectacle combined with with an amazing soundtrack and sound design i loved the minimalist look, it was extremely effective and certainly gave credence to the saying less is more i hate to bring up star wars but it contrasted sharply with Lucas' approach to the prequels, where the screen was overburdened with too many things going on at once and allowing the sounds effects to drown out the score in this film the score and the sound design complemented each other beautifully and there was a judicious use of visuals, score and sound. the art direction was just amazing it's unforgiveable that the three main pillars of film were not given as much care. the story was terrible, the dialogue was woeful and the acting was mediocre (even Bridges, who is never anything but great in all his films, falters) i don't really understand some of the vitriol towards this movie. it is a far more experimental and bolder film than a lot of the blockbuster garbage that people go see in the theatres. Yes the screenplay sucks and the direction of the actors is quite poor, but everything else is top quality

  • Jan. 11, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Could it go over $340 million?

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    January and most of February look like they will be slow in terms of notable movie releases to compete for moviegoers' money. Also, like the current Narnia sequel, Tron Legacy looks like it will make most of its money outside the U.S.. My feeling is that Tron Legacy appeals more to non-Americans than True Grit (American western) or Fockers (comedies tend not to translate well across cultures). It looks like Tron Legacy will become the proverbial little engine that could for Disney -- slow and steady toward profitability.

  • Jan. 11, 2011, 7:08 p.m. CST

    GAME OF THRONES is trash

    by Ringwearer9

    I mean, there are books and there are books, but "Game of Thrones" isn't something you should call yourself sophisticated for appreciating. Yes, there's a superficial attention ladled on the world's history and to details like the Heraldry of the varioius noble Houses, but when you get right down to the individual human beings in the story, it's becomes a laughable and transparent excuse for cheap gore and sex stunts. If Harold wants to get all literary, he should start with The Hobbit, and Lord of the Rings. Has anyone seen Harold mention reading those ever?

  • Jan. 11, 2011, 8:18 p.m. CST

    braindrain: In the U.S., it may make back its budget at $170

    by Jim Jam Bongs

    It is possible that Tron Legacy will gross a total of $350 million, when domestic and foreign are both factored together. It will probably make over 50% of this money from the foreign box office. Most of Disney's action movies tend to earn more abroad than they do in the U.S..

  • Jan. 12, 2011, 8:19 p.m. CST

    ne one who didnt like tron legazy

    by iwinuloseman

    just doesnt have a soul or a appreciation for fun movies probably becuz they life is a snore or a bore or something and thy dont even know aby better from a good movie when they finallly see it

  • Jan. 17, 2011, 12:08 a.m. CST

    It was well done

    by KevinMuller

    I enjoyed it. Really dug the set design. At times, it was breath taking to look at.

  • Jan. 22, 2011, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Tron was the shiznit

    by orcus

    Saw it twice. Awesome flick

  • Jan. 28, 2011, 9:47 p.m. CST

    I liked it. It was cool.

    by paulmkelly

    I saw it in 3D because that was all the theater had. I don't really care for 3D but it looked cool here. I just don't like how dark the glasses make everything.

  • Feb. 8, 2011, 9:43 a.m. CST

    GOOD

    by Joe Nica

    First movie I've seen in theaters since Inception and it was worth the money. Saw it in Real 3D - only way to see this kind of flick, and it did not disappoint. The beginning was a bit slow with some cheesy dialogue but it is PG. Once you enter the grid it is pure entertainment and what a 3D experience should be. And whoever wrote the script, wrote Jeff Bridges in as the Dude, which was pretty amusing. I'd see it again will prolly buy the Blu-Ray.

  • Feb. 10, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST

    375m gross worldwide so far

    by tradeskilz

    It's looking good.

  • Feb. 22, 2011, 3:55 a.m. CST

    uh, when a movie costs 300 million

    by Billy_D_Williams

    and grosses just over that, it's a fucking failure, dont get it twisted.

  • Feb. 25, 2011, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Tron and Jeff

    by Manga

    Jeff B is always the number 1

  • March 2, 2011, 4:55 a.m. CST

    $394 million and dead in the water for this peice of shit

    by CeejayNightwing

    Humungus budget at $170 million, only took $170,999,943 in the US and $223 internationally. Terrible Flop, won't be any more of these soulless, irritating electro music scored light shows. Some fool even said this was better than the Matrix sequels! The Matrix movies have way more philosophical meaning and narrative delivery than this lifeless joke of a flick. Neon suits? Jesus even their computer world was still stuck in the 1980's!

  • March 12, 2011, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Just watched it

    by proevad

    Held my attention. Watched it in one sitting which is rare these days. Not awesome, but better than the Star Wars prequels and the Matrix sequels. Music wasn't as great as I had heard it was. Pretty similar to the Dark Knight score. Bridges was cool. Olivia might be the hottest lady in hollywood. Bridges was cool. The lead guy was alright. Good to see Boxleitner back in a movie. 3 stars. Better than I expected it to be. I'd watch it again.

  • March 20, 2011, 12:26 a.m. CST

    FAT HARRY THIS MOVIE WAS A ROTTEN PILE OF GEORGE BUSH SHIT

    by Nabster

    Harry you are a coward and a fraud. How dare you recommend such a hateful disgusting film? Why are you unwilling to dislike bad films? You're the studios dream come true.

  • March 24, 2011, 12:47 a.m. CST

    HARRY you've nailed Tron Legacy COMPLETELY - it's AWESOME!!!!

    by davidwright

    i have never seen a movie THREE times at the theater ... until Tron Legacy. I cannot agree with you more - it's perfect in 100 senses of the word - F*** all the "critics" - both professional and amateur - who don't like it - and you want to know why???? CAUSE they just don't "GET IT" - this is a story about love, redemption, and if every critic would ever realize - instead of having their head up their ass - is this: MOVIES are supposed to be about things that are NOT REAL - and they are supposed to TAKE US somewhere - not so much physically but EMOTIONALLY - and TRON: Leagcy takes us to places which are freaking amazung - so the critics can just F*** off - because just like Star Trek was originally reviled but BELOVED by the believers, so is TRON. And oh by the way - star trek (and tron will follow in these footsteps) wound up making 7 films and 3 series AFTER the original was cancelled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • March 24, 2011, 12:49 a.m. CST

    too late it's over 300M ands not even on vidoe or int'l release yet

    by davidwright

    once again the doubters lose

  • March 24, 2011, 12:56 a.m. CST

    you are clearly the kind of d*** who loves a sport like golf

    by davidwright

    yeah - you're right - star wars sucks, star trak sucks and now so does tron - the only bitch about all of these - not only are they awesome to those who love them , but they have all made sick $$$$$$$$$ - and believe me the tron franchise will too - so fortunately the studios - and the tron lovers like me - dont gove a F*** what "golf" assholes like you think - tron wins (just like footballl) and you (and your golf bullshit) lose

  • March 24, 2011, 1:04 a.m. CST

    you're the failure dude

    by davidwright

    believe me the $$$ that tron has made and will continue to make is sick - only a totally true assh*** like you thinks it's a failure --- that's why disney already has an animated series scheduled and tron 3 is in the works - why do you bother?? haters like you don't belong in this discussion because not only are you WRONG but why hate against something that's already a cultural icon? wake the fuck up and smell the coffee or stop posting because you're just a pure dumb FUCK - sign off now because all you're doing is embarrassing yourself

  • March 24, 2011, 1:07 a.m. CST

    saw it 3 times u r right

    by davidwright

  • March 24, 2011, 1:09 a.m. CST

    again elation u r the scott pilgrim stoker

    by davidwright

    harry - u got it right - F*** the others - they are idiots

  • March 24, 2011, 1:10 a.m. CST

    angry spaceboy u r a dick

    by davidwright

    instead of hating on harry examine ur own pathetic life

  • March 24, 2011, 1:21 a.m. CST

    mental dominance is a mental case

    by davidwright

    so ... do you you hate sci-fi in general or just tron legacy? dude ... it's ok - if you just hate movies overall just say so - because otherwise you are the stupidest motherfucker i've ever not known - nor would want to know - the movie is great, the music even better, so .. i'm guessing you just have an ongoing period every day of the month - here's the thing - why not stay away from sci-fi - because sci-fi fans overall - to the tune of $300 million worldwide and growing - and the animated series coming out - and the likely sequel - and what even the "critics" (not sci-fi critics, just CRITICS) consider one of the jamminest most awesome soundtracks EVER by DAFT PUNK (yep - nominated for a grammy) says you're the dumbest motherfucker that ever watched a sci-fi film - so take it from ALL of us - shut the fuck up and stop watching sci-fi - stick with "The Notebook" or whatever you - the TOTAL DICKHEAD - thinks is cool

  • March 24, 2011, 1:45 a.m. CST

    scottpilgim who's laughing now

    by davidwright

    not you - you didnt gross $300 million worldwide and growing - so here's to you scott .. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah that's the sound of MONEY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ again for you and all the dickhead tron haters - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 300 million and counting

  • March 24, 2011, 1:49 a.m. CST

    and Crusher Creel believe me NOONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOU

    by davidwright

    disney doesnt - i dont - and i suspect all TRON fans don't gove a fuck about you either

  • TRON LEGACY grossing over $300 million to date with no end in sight - it's dickheads like you who think it's cool to hate on guys like harry - YOU are the dickhead - YOU are the asshole - YOU are the reason we have freedom of speech - YOU are just like the classroom bully in high school who cannot handle someone's point of view - and oh by the way I'm the high school athlete who wasn;t afraid to kick someone like YOUR ass for being such a fucking BULLY to others - i am calling your bluff you piece of total shit - come around my house and act like a fuckhead bully asshole and believe me you'll get 100% compensation for being such a DICKFUCKING asshole -

  • March 25, 2011, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Harry What the F%$K

    by anakinsoyo

    Dear aint it cool mr harry . My friend told me not to listen to your reviews because you had sold out long ago . But i ignored him and continued to come on this site . I just read your tron review and im in complete shock . Get honest dude i really wanted to like tron im the same age as you and im all for 80s films but this Tron legacy was boring as hell . I really really wanted to like this film but it just didnt happen . What a waste cash . The effects were average compared with todays special effects . The story made no fucking sense and nothing was explained tothe audience and as for martin sheen ? And please since when do you neen some had there day pop group to make film cool ? it just didnt happen . The whole bar scene was a joke . Plus what did tron have to do with the internet ? Like what the hell ? Compared with the first matrix film which most people who went to see this film have seen and loved , Tron legacy is completely dull . I really wanted this film to happen but it just didnt . SAD SAD SAD hollywood .

  • March 25, 2011, 9:29 p.m. CST

    I must add

    by anakinsoyo

    What did this film have tron in the title ? Tron really didnt have anything to do with the film . Like every now and again they were like look there tron and then he like kind of walked a bit and left and then they were like oh look there tron again ! WHAT THE HELL LOL

  • wow! not only have you missed the point with TRON, but what you really need to do is stop watching fantasy/sci-fi altogether and concentrate on "sex and the city" - because it's clear - you and everyone like you have no fucking business watching sci-fi ever again - sci-fi is about what "could be" not how pathetic your life actually is which your clearly is - go back to jacking off and dont post again - you're embarassing the human race

  • April 4, 2011, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Whoa! Been busy here

    by orcus

  • June 9, 2011, 2:21 a.m. CST

    HOLY SHIT THAT WAS AWESOME

    by IEatHippies

    Watched it 3 times in a row. What a fucking kickass movie. Holy fuck.

  • June 12, 2011, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Glad to see some love for this movie

    by orcus