Nov. 24, 2010, 1:38 a.m. CST
not bad, how long till you can tell it's a classic....
Nov. 24, 2010, 1:39 a.m. CST
that is all.
Nov. 24, 2010, 1:48 a.m. CST
by D o o d
does look good but I would like to ask numskulls at Disney what was wrong with the title Rapunzel..? Such a classic story and such an excellent title!
Nov. 24, 2010, 2:07 a.m. CST
too add bounce,drag,stretching and secondary movements to their characters. Much like traditional animation was. This answers why computer animated films are looking better. Take it from an animator.
Nov. 24, 2010, 2:08 a.m. CST
...looking forward to it.
Nov. 24, 2010, 2:17 a.m. CST
Lilo & Stitch, or The Emperor's New Groove which are truly great animated Disney films from the past 20 years right up there and probably better than most PIXAR films. Why Did Disney marketers decide to not call this Rapunzel instead of an abortion title like Tangled
Nov. 24, 2010, 2:26 a.m. CST
Nov. 24, 2010, 2:27 a.m. CST
by Righteous Brother
and was surprised at how entertaining it looked, especially as I'm not a big Disney fan.
Nov. 24, 2010, 2:29 a.m. CST
<br><Br>It was originally called Rapunzel Unbraided, but the geniuses at Disney were afraid boys wouldn't be caught dead going to a movie called Rapunzel, so they gave it a generic title (Tangled) and in the marketing played up the role of the main male character Flynn Rider.<br><Br>Personally I hate the title and hate that marketing is dictating creative decisions. But that doesnt change the fact that the movie looks excellent.<br><Br>
Nov. 24, 2010, 2:35 a.m. CST
Lion King is king.
Nov. 24, 2010, 2:44 a.m. CST
by David Cloverfield
are the bests me thinks. Hercules is cool tool. There's not much in Beast a little boy could enjoy. Also: I like the name Stabbington.
Nov. 24, 2010, 3:27 a.m. CST
It's wayyyy too revered. When was the last time you actually went back and watched the damn thing? If ever there was a Disney movie that deserved to be nominated for Best Picture, Beauty and the Beast was NOT it. Here's what I said in the Winnie The Pooh talkback: <p> Watch Beauty & The Beast. When it first came out, even as a kid, there was something about it that I thought was wrong, that didn't quite add up. After deciding to watch it a couple of years ago just to see how it held up I was shocked at how... </p> <p> There is an incredibly small amount of character development - for instance, the Prince's backstory is told in the story-book-prologue in the beginning. </p> <p> Which might be ok in a better movie, but then you look at his actual story: He was a young teen (around 16 or 17) when he first encountered the enchantress, I mean, who wouldn't be kind of a douche at that age, am I right? Especially with all that money! [And seemingly dead parents!] </p> <p> And Gaston, while full of himself, never really is established to be a complete asshole, except that he's really into Belle when he could have any other girl in the village. </p> <p> I just, I mean, I don't know, it's been a while since I re-watched it so I can't remember all of the issues I had with it, but I am stupefied that it got nominated for Best Picture. </p> <p> And The Beast's reveal was happened at the beginning of the damn movie! - totally robbing any anticipation or dread about what he might actually look like! </p> <p> Beauty and the Beast truly came out during the Renaissance Period of Disney animation, but when you look at the much stronger competition (Lion King and Aladdin, Mulan, even The Hunchback and Pocahontas, and to a lesser extent Hercules and Tarzan, though I'll never forgive the Academy for giving Phil Collins the award over Trey and Matt that year) it's insanity to me that anyone would put Beauty and The Beast at the top of the list. </p>
Nov. 24, 2010, 3:30 a.m. CST
That's what I get for not going back and reading what I wrote.
Nov. 24, 2010, 4:01 a.m. CST
Nov. 24, 2010, 4:02 a.m. CST
Nov. 24, 2010, 4:07 a.m. CST
and in several other european countries anyway.<br /><br />I guess the powers of disney marketing execs are not quite world-wide yet.
Nov. 24, 2010, 4:09 a.m. CST
I know lots of you folks love a musical number or two, but for me nothing breaks the pace of a story better than the characters spontaniously breaking into song. This is the reason I never watched Disney animated films as a child. They completely lost my attention when the singing started. I was looking forward to this film as the trailers looked kind of funny and Zak Levi is generally entertaining. Now I know it's got songs, won't be going near it I'm afraid.
Nov. 24, 2010, 4:38 a.m. CST
Some don't work but the majority of them do. The best thing is when using the free slow download option on Megaupload there is no long wait when downing the second links. http://soundtrackzone.blogspot.com/2009/11/no-sabes-que-escuchar.html
Nov. 24, 2010, 4:51 a.m. CST
Neither have coloured people. Anyone still remembers princess Tiana?
Nov. 24, 2010, 5:01 a.m. CST
Nov. 24, 2010, 5:24 a.m. CST
You don't like Beauty and the Beast. <br><br>I personally disagree with about every point you make. You don't think Gaston is enough of an asshole? He waits till the girl's dad is out-of-town and bursts into her home expecting to marry her. All based on the premise of "she's the best, and I deserve her."<br><br>Would you have liked it better if he had raped her in her father's kitchen? sheesh.
Nov. 24, 2010, 5:29 a.m. CST
Gaston pays off the keymaster of the local looney bin to have Maurice locked up until she consents to his advances. An act up villainy on par with Scar's betrayal of Mufasa, I'd say.
Nov. 24, 2010, 6:10 a.m. CST
by Bouncy X
thats a turn off, i mean i was never planning on seeing this in theaters and i'll still rent it and all but yeah. CGI animation seems to usually be safe from singing so i figured this was as well. i guess it really is a disney animated film that just happens to be CGI. i'm still impressed with the two leads, they totally have that "disney face". especially rapunzel, she's like a blonde ariel or belle or a white and blonde jasmine or whatshername from the hunchback movie.
Nov. 24, 2010, 6:27 a.m. CST
where does that fir in, exactly? it's not a classic disney fairy tale, really, shit, it doesn't even classify as a full length disney movie, i think- but it was pretty freaking funny. I also liked hercules quite a bit. what's wrong with me?
Nov. 24, 2010, 6:27 a.m. CST
Nov. 24, 2010, 6:50 a.m. CST
I may have to give it a look this weekend, just so i can say I saw the last one.
Nov. 24, 2010, 6:57 a.m. CST
wow, must be one of the most mindblowing films ever made!
Nov. 24, 2010, 7:01 a.m. CST
hidden frames of bare breasts, objects that look like penises, puffs of smoke that spell out 'sex' and all that jazz?
Nov. 24, 2010, 7:05 a.m. CST
by Mr. Pricklepants
TANGLED is just a stupid and meaningless title.
Nov. 24, 2010, 7:17 a.m. CST
Great date flicks, those early 90's Disney films. Anyway, I couldn't disagree more with that guy up above ragging on it. If you were a child at the time, then you likely don't recall what a complete revelation that film was. Animation was nearly dead... There was no Pixar, there was no Dreamworks, hell, before the Little Mermaid there was practically no Disney feature animation. TLM and BatB pretty much reignited an entire style of filmmaking, made it wildly popular for all ages and racked up the accolades. <p> And for those who saw the modern animated age unfold in order and were old enough to appreciate the filmmaking skill invovled at the time, there's no question about the film's merit.
Nov. 24, 2010, 7:20 a.m. CST
...sorry but there's absolutely no reason this couldn't have been done in 2D. I supported Princess & the Frog, but I will not support this.
Nov. 24, 2010, 7:27 a.m. CST
Although it's not Disney so much as animators. And even then, half of the stuff is people with overactive imaginations looking for things. (The letters "sex" in the Lion King are actually "sfx", as the dandelions seeds floating away are done by the special effects team, and the famous Priest's boner in The Little Mermaid is actually his kneecap. But there's a photo of a topless woman in an apartment window in the Rescuers and Jessica Rabbit did go without underwear long before modern starlets were flashing the camera, so it does happen.)
Nov. 24, 2010, 7:48 a.m. CST
I recently watched it after buying it on Bluray. While I agree that the movie gets an excessive amount of praise, it's a movie that still holds up well after all these years which is something I can't really say for Aladdin and Lion King. If the movie was released today would it be as well received as it was in 1991? Probably not but that's the case with a lot of movies now considered classics. Timing is everything. The movie came out at the dawn of Disney's 2nd golden age of animation and it was also during at time the U.S was in an economic recession. People were looking for something to make them feel good and Beauty and the Beast hit the spot for moviegoers of all ages which is not easy to do for an animated film aimed at kids. As for the movie itself, it is not without flaws. I mean we still don't even know what the Beast/Prince's name is or what people or country was he ruler over. But the movie's heart is in the right place which makes the viewer oversee the faults and just root for Belle and the Beast to hook up.
Nov. 24, 2010, 7:59 a.m. CST
Disney films now, the pacing is all off. <p> And I totally understand the fact that it helped revitalize the Disney animated films industry (not that other animated films weren't finding success), and led to Aladdin and The Lion King. I'm just saying that looking back on it now I don't see how you can compare it to the others. <p> OK, so yeah, threatening to lock Belle's dad in a mental hospital was a really dick move, no one has disputed the pacing issues, character development/lack-there-of, or Beast reveal. </p>
Nov. 24, 2010, 8 a.m. CST
I swear I thought that was Will Ferrell. And better than Aladdin??!?? We shall see...
Nov. 24, 2010, 8:07 a.m. CST
I like the look of the film, I actually think this is the way all disney films should go, CGI rendered animation is just the next step in animation, it isn't replacing hand drawn, it's just the evolution of hand drawn (replacing cells and paper with computers and digiatal film)<P>I still gotta see Harry potter 7 so Tangled will likely get bumped to next week but i do intend on seeing this ASAP
Nov. 24, 2010, 8:09 a.m. CST
Kids today, and their decompressed storytelling and need for origin stories to be told on screen. I'm glad they covered the curse in the prologue.. The real story was about the breaking of it. And the whole point was a metaphor for coming into maturity, learning not to be a dickish teenager who is completely self centered but actually caring about the needs and feelings of others, so there was the character development necessary. And as for the Beast's reveal, he's only glimpsed from the back and side in shadow early on. Yes, when you already know what he looks like you can make it out, but if you don't then you still want a better look. Of course, all of this is moot when you live in the real world and know that there's no way the marketing of the film wouldn't include a look at the main character before anyone set foot in the theater anyway.
Nov. 24, 2010, 8:10 a.m. CST
But comparing Lion King to Aladdin to Beauty and the Beast to Little Mermaid is like comparing a Porsche to an Audi to a Corvette etc. As a father of three young kids I am glad Disney/Pixar is on a huge run and producing really great films for the entire family. I love Disney!! I do agree that the title sucks though. I have a feeling that the title will deter people rather than draw them in.
Nov. 24, 2010, 8:12 a.m. CST
by that i mean the computer animation fits their later hand-drawn style to a T. there is also a nice heft and texture to everything. good job disney!
Nov. 24, 2010, 8:13 a.m. CST
by Thunderbolt Ross
Not something I enjoy
Nov. 24, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST
instead of Megamind? Deal. Considering awhile back the squirt begged us to take her to Vampires Suck (and that wasn't happening), Tangled will be much more doable.
Nov. 24, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST
I fucking love that movie
Nov. 24, 2010, 8:44 a.m. CST
...one of the good things in the fair "Star Trek: Insurrection."
Nov. 24, 2010, 8:46 a.m. CST
by dr sauch
My mental image is of like a 400 lb man/woman surrounded by disney plush dolls and posters. Honestly, WHO CARES ABOUT THE TITLE?!
Nov. 24, 2010, 9:04 a.m. CST
Things that always bugged me about that movie: 1. I still don't see the logic in cursing an entire castle full of people in order to teach a lesson to an 11-year-old. 2. If "Reading Books" is so unfathomable to all the townspeople, how come they have such an impressively well-stocked bookstore in a small 18th century village? 3. It's only been 10 years, how come no one seems to know about a massive castle within a day's walk of the village? (Must be part of the curse?) It was nicely animated, but there's more holes in the plot than there are stupid network executives in television.
Nov. 24, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST
and thought it looked junk, even my children were not impressed. It looks Brother Bear bad..but what do I know? I'll stick with Dumbo as my favourite Disney film ever..it beats all the others hand down.
Nov. 24, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST
animated cartoon/movie: the Ichabod Crane half of the Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad.
Nov. 24, 2010, 9:38 a.m. CST
And the writters aknoledge this on the bluray's commentary track, but they favored a quick fun plot than solving every single problem of it. Regarding animation, it looks dated. A lot. Looks like it's made for TV, all flat and jumpy.
Nov. 24, 2010, 9:47 a.m. CST
If this isn't the truth of the decision not to use 'Rapunzel' then I'll gladly eat my own freshly shit shit. You know it's the truth, I know it's the truth. You know dat's tru, fuckaz.
Nov. 24, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST
The only thing I can think with the logic of the curse is that the witch/hot lady wanted to teach him that his actions as a Prince not only affect him but have consequences on those he rules over as well. The choice to have them be turned into household items worked well because it was symbolic of how he viewed those who served him before the curse. They weren't really people to him, they were objects there to do his bidding. I agree that it is a bit odd that these villagers live so close to the castle and don't know of its existence but movie and fairy tale logic often requires a suspension of disbelief and it's possible the writers didn't feel it was essential to the central story of the movie.
Nov. 24, 2010, 10:23 a.m. CST
by Abominable Snowcone
And I concur; it's a terrific, delightful movie. And I don't use the word 'delightful' a lot.<p> Now, where's a 127 Hours review? Saw it last night. Franco rocks. Pun intended. See it and learn how a MAN behaves.
Nov. 24, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST
by Abominable Snowcone
and the 3D is actually put to good use. Worth the surcharge. Warm your cold hearts, mein freunds
Nov. 24, 2010, 10:32 a.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
Cool.<BR><BR>Disney should fire their advertising department, however, for the HIDEOUS trailers and TV spots that have been cut for this, making it look like the worst kind of gag-laden, pop music-saturated, slapstick-heavy Dreamworks crap. I mean, Jesus, you have Alan Fucking Menken writing new songs, and not one ad for this movie tells you it's a MUSICAL?!
Nov. 24, 2010, 10:37 a.m. CST
I am a complete sucker for good Disney, even some bad Disney, so it's nice to hear it worthwhile.
Nov. 24, 2010, 10:43 a.m. CST
That is why they were transformed along with the prince. Technically they were somewhat accomplices to the way he was raised to be an asshole, so they get the punishment alongside it.
Nov. 24, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST
and i got the vibe it was trying to appeal to the shrek crowd. i'm sure the story differs, but that's how they cut it (complete with pop-punk music from almost a decade ago- instead of using one of the original soundtrack songs)
Nov. 24, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST
by Flames gotta Eat
I saw it and fell asleep. Found it boring and a fairly standard effort. Yes it's gorgeous to look at (that's a give in) but I didn't see anything special about the rest. Music is forgettable except for "Mother Knows Best" which I only remember the chorus to, and that's not even incredibly original. To me it was a good movie for little girls, and that's it really. I know they're doing everything they can to market it for boys as well but it's honestly a girls film, there's no getting around it and people will feel tricked as usual when studios lie in their marketing.
Nov. 24, 2010, 12:16 p.m. CST
by Abominable Snowcone
yes, Kiel is the voice of Vladimir the Viking, who collects ceramic unicorns.
Nov. 24, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST
Good you squeezed your street cred in there. Normal everyday folk don't realize that old cartoons used squash and stretch.<br />Take it from someone who's written a lot of sentences.
Nov. 24, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST
Hehe Maybe it is worth seeing...
Nov. 24, 2010, 2:06 p.m. CST
she would be severely mentally retarded, and unable to speak or understand any language. She might still be hot, though (although her body would be riddled with scurvy and rickets).
Nov. 24, 2010, 2:15 p.m. CST
Nice. Take it from someone who smirks at a lot of posts.
Nov. 24, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST
I<p>SERIOUSLY<p>DOUBT<p>IT<p>This is the man that called For Colored Girls one of the BEST FILMS OF THE YEAR. Who actually liked Ghosts Of Girlfriends Past. Capone's hyperbole is getting more outrageous than even Harry's.
Nov. 24, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST
i like gummi bears
Nov. 24, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST
Why turn a classic fairy tale into a me-too slap stick comedy, instead of a graceful beautiful balletic musical? And then having some retarded marketing research team call it fucking "Tangled"? Princess & the Frog was a Win, Tangled is a Fail
Nov. 24, 2010, 5:09 p.m. CST
I've been waiting a long, LOOOONG time for the Walt Disney Animation Studios to find its way back home again. Lately, it seems like all Disney does is buy substandard junk like the Muppets to try to fill the gaping hole where classic Disney animated films used to be. It's good to know that the magic hasn't died, that SOME people at the Mouse House remember how to tell a good story. I initially had no interest in this movie, but based on the rave reviews - including yours - it's been getting, I'm willing to give it a shot and hope for the best.
Nov. 24, 2010, 5:54 p.m. CST
Yeah, that Jim Henson was an unimaginative hack. Pardon fucking me?
Nov. 24, 2010, 7:33 p.m. CST
Have you seen the film? It's NOTHING like Shrek. I just got back from a screening and I completely agree it ranks up there with Aladdin. I disliked The Princess and the Frog, but Tangled definitely compares favorably with the big 4 of the modern Disney animated classics.
Nov. 24, 2010, 8:17 p.m. CST
by David Cloverfield
Had some awesome character designs.
Nov. 24, 2010, 9:19 p.m. CST
I was an adult when I saw it and it was mostly forgettable. Beauty and Beast was decent and so was Alladin. This review does make me curious to perhaps check this one out..just buy a ticket to a cheaper one and sneak in with my 3D glasses from Avatar..wouldn't be the first time.
Nov. 25, 2010, 12:51 a.m. CST
Aladdin or Little Mermaid, but it definitely belongs in that pantheon. It earns the emotional payoff of the sacrifice (that is then somehow obviated, but still, I loved that moment). I enjoyed Princess and the Frog (kind of a modern day Aristocats) but Tangled is a much, much better film. Way better than Bolt. And, some classic Disney musical numbers. Glad to see those come back.<br><br>This is a very strong film, with great set pieces, musical numbers, and excellent animation. Very well put together. Great voice work. See this movie.
Nov. 25, 2010, 12:56 a.m. CST
Advertising campaign, on the other hand, was lame. Much better that the trailers would lead you to believe. for me, it was much, much better. Lots of good stuff. I look forward to seeing it again. And the glowing hair effect? Frickin' awesome.
Nov. 25, 2010, 1:28 a.m. CST
Sorry. Jim Henson was a gifted innovator in his field of puppetry, but Walt he wasn't. But then again, who is? Certainly not Disney suits like TweedleMike and TweedleBob, who apparently think the way to keep Disney solvent is to buy up insolvent franchises featuring characters that add nothing to the company and don't really fit in with Walt's legacy at all. But whatever. Tangled looks like a hopeful return to what has generated a lot of the classic Disney magic: well-told fantasy tales interpreted by a group of gifted artists with an original vision. And that's why I'm now looking forward to seeing this film. And a friend of mine who's manager of a theater told me when I booked my tickets this evening that Tangled's doing very very well there, even selling out some shows. Can't wait to see it.
Nov. 25, 2010, 2:30 a.m. CST
now that I know it's apparently better than it's shit trailer. Sad thing is, I'm a 20-something single guy. Who the hell do I really have to take to see this movie? Nobody. Guy friends can't be hassled to go and see Disney musicals with their "bros."
Nov. 25, 2010, 8:56 a.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
...in order to see an animated/"family" movie in the theater? I'm 36 years old, and I see most Pixar movies opening day. I *love* animation, and don't care who knows it. Do guys think everyone in the theater will think they're a pedophile or "gay" if they attend an animated movie without using their wife/girlfriend or child/niece/nephew as some kind of shield? Man up, and don't feel ashamed for liking such an innovative and beautiful art form.
Nov. 25, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST
I still get a nervous tic just remembering that dreaded 'Rapunzel: Unbraided' title during the Eisner regime, intending to make the film a hip and edgy piece. Though I was surprised about this film. I just hope that it'll get good word-of-mouth, after Princess and the Frog just died last year at the B.O. It feels like since the direct-to-video debacle that the old Disney did, the guys now have alot of work undoing the damage of families and people just saying, 'Meh, wait 5 months and we can rent it.'
Nov. 25, 2010, 1:05 p.m. CST
by andrew coleman
I have no kids. My girl friend said the movie looked "Shitty as hell" so can I see it by myself? Nasty in the Pasty brought up a interesting topic. I generally don't give a shit what people think about me. Still do guys who go to these movies alone get the "pedophile" glance or the "must be gay" comment? I get that maybe if you went saw Twilight on your own people might question you but animated movies? Interesting topic. A local theater is playing Tangled and this review might have me check it out.
Nov. 25, 2010, 1:12 p.m. CST
Animation-wise, this might be the best, period. It's an eye-blinding spectacle - the first CG-animated movie I wouldn't have rather seen hand-drawn since the first two TOY STORYs and superior to even those. It's every-blade-of-grass detail is superior to every Pixarish thing, with the possible exception of WALL-E. If you say otherwise, you're just wrong.<P>I'm not certain I'm in love with the story --- the remarkably surprising climax is tarnished by your auto-pilot "Disney death do-over" --- and the songs are nearly unlistenable for these rock-n-roll ears --- mix your tween Disney pop with generic Broadway --- except for the thugs' production number.<P>I saw it in 2-D, and, yes, the show-stopping sequence is designed for 3-D and probably more effective in that format, but I'm still not a 3D convert, and I won't pay the extra money for one three-minute sequence. The rest of the time, you don't need the added gimmick. The dimensionality is already astounding.
Nov. 25, 2010, 1:30 p.m. CST
Yes and yes.<P>Yes, you can see it on your own, and, yes, you'll probably get a couple of "look at that freak" stares.<P>No, it probably won't "move" you to tears as it would if you were an 18 yr-old girl or the mother of one, but I'm not a samurai, either, and I wouldn't let that stop me from seeing a Kurosawa film --- girlfriend be damned.
Nov. 25, 2010, 2:49 p.m. CST
A fairy tale that mocks itself.
Nov. 25, 2010, 9:13 p.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
Or just "cartoons" as people I know online refer to them disdainfully. I dunno, I never "grew out" of liking animation (the shitty 80's TV commercial stuff aside), but increasingly as I edge towards 40, I wonder if all of the soccer moms in the theater with their kids ARE giving me odd looks when I sit down by myself to enjoy the latest Disney or Pixar film. No matter how critically accliamed an animated feature is, no matter how well it plays to all ages, there's always that part of the audience who simply will not go unless they're "forced" to by their children or Significant Others (and will give anyone over the age of 20 dirty looks if they attend by themselves). I mean, seeing a piece of shit "kiddie" movie like Alvin & The Chipmunks or Yogi Bear by yourself *is* weird (at least it indicates a serious lack of filmgoing taste), but why should I be made to feel guilty if I want to see the latest Disney 'toon feature by my lonesome?
Nov. 25, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST
It sounds like they've completely changed the entire story of Rapunzel aside from the girl in a tower bit..She's supposed to be taken as a baby by the witch because her parents stole from the witches garden due to the mothers horrible pregnancy cravings..They stole her mache greens, which is actually called Rapunzel and thats where the girl gets her name. Why is she named after lettuce in this movie if she has some magic youth flower in her hair?
Nov. 26, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST
I was completely surprised by how much I enjoyed this!
Nov. 26, 2010, 9:53 p.m. CST
..both because it's absolutely gorgeous, while Shrek has always looked kind of crappy, and because it's a full on adventure story told with a humorous slant, while the Shrek films have always been parody first and foremost.
Nov. 27, 2010, 8:13 p.m. CST
by D o o d
I completely agree with Capone. This film is fantastic. Not only that, it's better than any movie that dreamworks has come out with and is even better than some of the Pixar movies.<p>I should also add that John Lasseters name popped up too so it's kinda Pixar anyway! Seriously guys, check out this movie, it was fantastic!
Nov. 28, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST
Dec. 5, 2010, 12:45 a.m. CST
I hated the trailer for this film but this film surprised the hell out of me.