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The First Official Image From SHERLOCK HOLMES II Changes Everything!
Beaks here...
And now we know SHERLOCK HOLMES II contains a scene in which Robert Downey Jr., Jude Law and THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO'S Noomi Rapace are nearly blown to bits in a forest. It also appears Downey and Law will suffer minor head injuries - though that could just be a smudge of dirt on Downey's noggin. Hard to tell. We'll just have to wait until December 16, 2011 to find out for sure!
In case you've forgotten, Ms. Rapace will play a French gypsy in the Guy Ritchie-directed sequel. The film will also feature Stephen Fry as Sherlock's older brother Mycroft, and Jared Harris as Holmes's archenemy, Professor James Moriarty. The screenplay is by Kieran and Michele Mulroney (of the Dermot Mulroneys). And I second Devin Faraci's call for a more artful title than SHERLOCK HOLMES II. Should be SHERLOCK HOLMES AND THE... WHATEVER-THE-CENTRAL-MYSTERY-OF-THE-FILM-IS.
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First one blew ass like "Iron Man 2."
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ZZZZZZZZZ
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the weak female lead that they wisely excised
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Ghat was the only thing about the modern update I didn't like. I thought the Ritchie Holmes was fun enough, with room for improvement. I'm down for the sequel.
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The one that aired on British television. I only watched the first one but it's brilliant and about ten times better than Guy Ritchie's version.
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The first one was lacking one, not that anyone really noticed.
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Nov. 23, 2010, 8:09 p.m. CST
Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Worst Title Ever
by scallywagthedog
I sincerely hope "Sherlock Holmes II" is just a working title. Bloody dreadful, that.
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They dropped the ball at least somewhat on Moriarty. Wasn't crazy about that guy's portrayal at all. And I still don't like them referring to each other by their first names instead of last.
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As Moriarty. Looking forward to it.
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..and the thought it provoked was "why the hell am I watching this?'
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Nothing against the actors or Guy, just not my cup of tea.
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and the Prisoner of Asskabang
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Nov. 23, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST
Can we have Sherlock Holmes in our next Sherlock Holmes movie?
by SmokingRobot
Seriously, have these people actually read a Sherlock Holmes story?
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I really wanted Daniel Day Lewis to play Moriarty!!! He was the fucking man as butcher bill in kings of new york!!! That would have been oscar caliber performance right there!
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now somebody i've never heard of? yikes.
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or is that a band name?
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Perhaps they could actually make a Sherlock Holmes story, like say, Hound of the Baskervilles or something. The source material is excellent. Surely something can be mined from it.
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Check. Unnecessary love interest? Check. Nary a clue that it's a Sherlock Holmes film? Check. Onward and upward!
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I'm right there behind you in that queue we were never in!
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...and thus far no marriage proposals for Ms. Rapace. Thankfully. I don't get all the hype.
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Gotta go with RayImpastato up there. Looks like Yahoo Serious! Way too contrived and corny. First one was terrible as a Sherlock Holmes movie. No grace, no subtlety, no mystery. Just Hollywood pretending to be British.
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will I give a shit?<P>Um, nope.<P>Time to put Robert Downey, Jr. back in his box.
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Every second movie should be THE WRATH OF KHAN.
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This Minute's It Girl.
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but were you really that hard up for a headline?
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OPIUM. <br /> <P>There,i saved you from the trouble Hollywood.
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i hope ms Dragon Lady shows flesh in this movie too.
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Nov. 23, 2010, 10:23 p.m. CST
I guess I'm one of the few people here who liked Sherlock Holmes
by Continentalop
Was it faithful to Doyle's version? No, but it was just as faithful if not more so than the Basil Rathbone versions. I saw it as a Pulp fiction version of Holmes, as if he was on an alternate earth which had more action and would same day give birth to Tarzan, Doc Savage, the Shadow, James Bond and Batman. Unlike other literiary characters there is thousands of adaptations of Holmes, so I don't mind a less faithful adaptation.
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would've been great in BBC's Sherlock, though perhaps a bit old. The Moriarty they came up with was a let down.
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Changes everything, but it's a similar scene to the last film! I get it! It doesn't really change anything! Hilarious.
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in the first one. Mumbled every single fucking piece of dialogue he had. Couldn't understand jack shit.
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Sorry, but Moffat, Gatiss, Cumberbatch and the BBC shat all over Ritchie, Downey and Hollywood.
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...Catwoman in TDKR. C'mon Nolan, you know it to be so.
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Definitely.
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speak for yourself sir.someone's pain is someone else's pleasure as they say.
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aka the sequel which had three minutes' worth of action in two hours.
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Rapace would great in DKR, But who would she play?
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Returned to the stable and retransfigured into the horse god meant her to be.
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The Guy Ritchie movie was SURPRISINGLY faithful to the WRITTEN character of Holmes. We had a mystery that was seemingly supernatural, and Holmes used his deductive abilities to solve it. When not on a case, he is dissheveled and doped up. That IS the Holmes written by Doyle. They nailed it.
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that is all
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Guy Ritchie is better than you.
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we're used to make London look authentic back in the day. I don't think it's ever looked better on film
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more like Sexton Blake in this series.
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Like a few other brave souls who've admitted it, I liked the first movie and, being a RDJ fan, I'm sure I'll like this one.<p></p> In a time when Hollywood churns out live action children shows (in 3D no less)... Yogi & The Smurfs? I mean, really? ... I can appreciate entertaining fluff without counting plotholes or faithfullness to source material (although Guy DID allude to Holmes' drug addiction a few times, which got a smile outta me).<p></p> If that means I've lowered my standards (as if I had any to begin with) then so be it. <p></p> I'm sure there's a Ritchie film I did NOT like but I just can't think of one off the top of my head.<p></p> ps: give the Iron Man II bashing a rest. It's a movie based on a comic for fuck's sake.
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movie I don't want to see.
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I'd give it 3 stars out of 5. It mostly felt like a warming up of the characters, so I really hope they do something more this time around.
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They talk like characters from 2010 stuck in the 19th century. Wild wild wild west is a good example of what I'm talking about.
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Better yet some flying bottle caps like in the Green Hornet. That CG closeup of objects going around a room has to stop. It represents everything that's wrong with modern movies.
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I enjoyed it a lot
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HOLEMAN!!<p></p> "Noomi Rapace should be ... [r]eturned to the stable and retransfigured into the horse god meant her to be."<p></p> well played sir, well played indeed!
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I just want to make sure my finger stays firmly pressed against the pulse of the industry; so will someone ... anyone ... please clarify what is REALLY wrong with modern film?<p></p> According to the various TBs I've read, it's "found footage"; "shaky cam"; "3D"; "CGI"; or "Michael Bay"<p></p> Wait a tic!!!<p></p> Does this mean the rumored "Cloverfield II; in 3D; directed by Michael Bay" will mean ... I shudder to say it ... THE APOCALYPSE???!!??<p></p> *sigh*<p></p> Sometimes I honestly believe that many TBers are only satisfied when there's something to complain about (and will find something if none exists)
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boring. crappy plot. just total shit. ill watch the second, but i wont be paying a cent to do so.
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Why would anybody listen to anything he says? Please explain?
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Spot on - the first film was very faithful to the Holmes stories as written by Conan Doyle.
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I guess half an hour after Bleeding Cool put this up you grabbed it...I guess that's cool. But what isn't is how you stole the discribions of what's going on. Passing it off as your own idea...FAIL. http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/11/23/what-do-we-learn-from-the-first-official-sherlock-holmes-2-image/
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No, it was not. Read the stories. BBCs 'Sherlock' is more faithful, despite being modernised and reinterpreted. I did not recognise Sherlock Holmes's character in the Richie version. The comparison to Sexton Blake is well made.
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i liked moffats sherlock holmes but it could have done without the gimmicky graphics and there were was a least one scene which i thought was racist. but moffats moriarity was awful. hilarously so.
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More and more i get convinced to not watch the first movie. And totally ignoring the existence of the second.
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Watch the BBC show SHERLOCK. That's how you do it. And they even set it in modern day England, and it still remains remarkably faithful to the spirit of the printed stories. As an adaptation, it's brillant. And as a show, it kicks ass. And it helps that the actors chosen for the roles are perfect. Martin Freeman as Dr Watson is great and a very sympathetic screen presence, and the awesomely named Benedict Cumberbatch nails Sherlock Holmes in a way that he just might euqal the awesomely Jeremy Brett's take, and that is the highest compliment i can ever give to an actor that plays Holmes.<br><br>Really, if you want to see a modern take on Holmes, watch SHERLOCK. That show is pure quality ass-kicking.
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I think the idea of Moriarty in the SHERLOCK series was to make him totally hateful. Which they suceed admirably, and you might just have gave the show and the presentation of the character the greatest compliment. Your reaction migth just be the exact reaction the producers of the show wanted for you to have. You are supposed to dislike Moriarty, you know? He's not supposed to be cool, he's supposed to be hateful.
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was amazing! An updated re-imaging set in modern London with Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman. Great stuff, kudos Mr. Moffat and Mr. Gatiss! I quite enjoyed the first movie tho. It'll be interesting to see what Stephen Fry makes of Mycroft!
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When i first heard of SHERLOCK i was quite skeptical about it. But the first five minutes of the first episode made me a believer.
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Guy Ritchie, you twat: The only good parts of the first film were Sherlock's fact deducing and witty smarts.. Not his John Woo style fights or Michael Bay explosive getaways. Allright...??
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I still haven't seen the first Ritchie movie, but I was very interested. After watching BBC's Sherlock, I no longer am. There's no way it holds a candle to Sherlock.
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Jude Law not so much. not at all.
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Number 1 in the hood, G!
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Nov. 24, 2010, 8:05 a.m. CST
It's okay to like both the Ritchie Holmes and the Moffat Holmes
by SpyGuy
Both are entertaining Sherlock Holmes projects for different reasons. Each has their strengths and flaws, but they each bring something to the table and have succeeded in introducing Sherlock Holmes to a new generation of fans. THIS IS A GOOD THING, PEOPLE.
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I liked the fight scenes how Sherloc broke it down how he was goin to take down his opponet it slow motion then show it in reg speed..Its been a VERY long time since I picked up a sherlock novel..very long but one of the things that I picked up was that he was a solid fighter and could use his cane/stick or whatever u call it..but I dont remember seeing that aspect of him in the old movies..just like the same way I never saw Spidermans witty remarks in the Sam Raimi movies and other trademarks of various characters I either didnt see or barely saw in thier cinematic counterparts.
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I see no flaws in BBC's SHERLOCK show. And i'm quite critical.
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now i have to see this movie.
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But doesn't WB already have a franchise with long titles? <br><br> SHERLOCK HOLMES AND THE THINGY OF WHATSIS would seem a tad silly.
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really is just Batman in disguise.
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it's like finding out there's a new Bond coming out, but it's by the guy who did Never Say Never Again.
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Why?!??!?!??!?!?!!?
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Because the first was profitable and (some) people liked it. Thought that was kind of obvious. <p>I'm with SpyGuy. While BBC's Sherlock is better (and a TV show, so we get more), I also enjoyed RDJ's Sherlock Holmes for completely different reasons. The moping, the sarcastic remarks (which you did have to listen closely to catch, that was the point), all fit nicely with the novels (though to be fair I've only read about half of them all). More explosions and action, yes, but that was all good fun, and it is Hollywood after all.
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and was immediately bummed when I realized it's a pic from Rock 'Em, Sock 'Em Holmbots 2 and not the second series for BBC's SHERLOCK.
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Isn't perfect -- it's rocky from episode to episode and Moriarty comes off as just another Joker wannabe performance(though he ends up only reminding me of that guy from Big Bang Theory. I was seriously waiting for him to say Bazinga). I just might see this movie, as Jared Harris could really kick ass as M.
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It's the best translation of the characters I've seen in, well, ever; I watched the whole series three times, which is really saying something. The good far outweighs the bad, but it does make the bad all the more glaringly noticeable.
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I think we'll find out that it is not really Moriarty. I'm betting it turns out to be Moran from the original stories, Moriarty's equivalent of Watson.
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Just call it "The case of the whatever etc blah"
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...because they've actually read the orginal stories, agree that the RDJ's and Jude Law's performances were spot on. Let's hope the deer-stalker topped Holmes retreats into the dark recesses of hollywood history where it belongs and we get to once again see the man of action as he was originally conceived, along with the formidable Dr Watson. Last year's movie had some problems but they weren't due to the actors or their portrayal. I'd like to see a director's cut so that the story is fleshed out a bit more. This next effort will likewise bring to the screen the kind of heroics-in-action we who are fans of the original Conan-Doyle stories are eager to see. Also, the recreation of old London was a visual treat. Wish the'd somehow bring Neal Stephenson's "Baroque Cycle" to the screen as well.
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and the Case of the Freakishly Enlarged Cheekbones
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so don't worry, more is coming. <p>http://tinyurl.com/2von2hj
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Yes, RDJ was hard to understand.<p> Yes, SHERLOCK on a fraction of the budget pwned the Ritchie movie.<p> Yes, SHERLOCK HOLMES II is a dumb title.<p> No, i'm not going to see it.<p> (who am I kidding... I'll give it a rental some time)
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Nov. 24, 2010, 4:48 p.m. CST
Sherlock Holmes and the Girl Who Lacked a Personality
by THAT_SAID_THE_CHOPPAH
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What else do you bitches want. Still not as good as the Basil Rathbone movies or Young Sherlock Holmes.
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got to say
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sherlock - awful. dr who - awful. ritchie's holmes - not bad, coulda been smarter though, too much fisticuffs.
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This Sherlock Holmes is for knuckle dragging popcorn film lovers, no Sherlock Holmes fans. Holmes is a tall, well dressed Englishman not a short, shabby dressed mummbling American! Sherlock Holmes is a master boxer and Japanese wrestling fighter not a gypsy kung fu artist! Holmes is a drug taking, crime and puzzle solving obsessive, not some love struck fool who feels the need to have a bare-knuckle fight to occupy his boredom! The first film had the perfect guy for playing Sherlock Holmes and wasted him by making him play the villain instead, yes MARK STRONG! These movies are for idiots who just want another literary character redressed as an A-typical American action movie rather than anything too cerebral so as to make a quick buck delivering the usual fights, explosions and silly one-liner jokes that they use as a formula to dumb down everything these days to idiot-crowd level! Just look at JJ Abrams Star Trek for another example. I fear deeply for the remake of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo movie remakes and how they'll become yet another formulaic, brain dead, Yank-fest spectacle!
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Nov. 24, 2010, 6:04 p.m. CST
Anyone else disappointed with Jared Harris's casting in this?
by tempoora
Yea I get it, your Dad was revered as an actor, it don't mean you have his acting chops.
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I'm not a purist. I've always enjoyed Sherlock Holmes in literature. As for the movies.. Basil Rathbone certainly was Sherlock Holmes.. But I recall Roger Moore playing the role too. I actually enjoyed Matt Frewer's take on the character as well. Now BBC has a new Sherlock, molded from the old, into today's world. Is it good? Yep. Was Robert Downey Jr's version of Sherlock Holmes good too? Yep. Now as far as BBC's version goes, to me, YES it does eerily strike a true resonnance to Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes but ported in a clever way into today's world. As for Robert Downey Jr's version.. well.. it embodies the spirit of Holmes but, the characters have been greatly retooled and adapted. It's not Conan Doyle's Holmes, but it is still a good, solid entertaining movie.
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The best casting idea is the one kept to yourself. The same also applies to political opinions and, say, fantasy football rosters? What else am I forgetting?
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Jude Law just screams gay, and he gets it all over RDJ. Messy.
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Producers will do anything to get asses in seats.
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That image changes everything all right: Sherlock Holmes is now Robin Hood. He is an oooooooouuuuuuttttttlllllllaaaaaaaawwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh my lord. I forgot about that guy.
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... in the BBC's show. It was a version of the character that I wasn't expecting, and I find the choices they made there fascinating.<p> Can't wait until Series 2.
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