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Updated With Joss Reaction!! Warner Bros. Announces 100% Whedon-Free Big-Screen Reboot Of BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER!!

I am – Hercules!! A gorgeous 29-year-old actress named Whit Anderson ("Yes Man") has been hired to pen a new big-screen version of “Buffy The Vampire Slayer.” She counts herself among the legion of fans who loved the TV series, which premiered on The WB when she was 16. 61-year-old Charles Roven, who was 48 when the TV series premiered and is producing the new big-screen “Buffy,” offers via press release:
“While this is not your high-school Buffy, she’ll be just as witty, tough and sexy as we all remember her to be.”
If somebody told me Roven does not who Willow Rosenberg is, I believe I could contain my shock. The new movie will be a reboot and is not expected to acknowledge the existence of Giles, Willow, Xander, Spike, Angel, Oz, Cordelia, Anya or any of the other characters created for the TV series. No director is yet attached. “Buffy” creator/mastermind Joss Whedon, busy now scripting the very expensive “Avengers” movie he’ll direct, will have nothing to do with the new "Buffy." The hiring of Anderson, who appears to have penned no prior produced screenplays for film or television, suggests this is a cash-grab designed to exploit in the “Twilight” era a highly recognizable teen-falls-for-vampire franchise. No one’s reaching out to expensive writers like Aaron Sorkin or Diablo Cody or even Jason Katims or Josh Schwartz. (On this teen-falls-for-vampire point, I feel compelled to point out I don't remember Buffy willingly kissing a vampire in the 1992 movie -- as she did many times in the TV series -- but I think we can count on plenty of undead saliva getting swapped in any post-"Twilght" "Buffy.") Warner Bros. licensed the rights from “creators” Fran and Kaz Kuzui, and from Sandollar Productions (the company overseen by Sandy Gallin and Dolly Parton that produced the 1992 movie), according to the press release. Regarding this “creators” business. The Kuzuis secured rights to “Buffy” when they produced the mediocre 1992 Kristy Swanson-Luke Perry movie. Though Whedon created the character of Buffy Summers and wrote the Swanson screenplay, it was Fran Kuzui who did such a poor job directing the ’92 version. The Kuzuis licensed the Buffy Summers character to Fox and Whedon for the far superior TV series, and received executive producers’ credits for their trouble, but had no active roles in the creation of the series. “Buffy” fans have been craving a movie for more than a decade. Given youngsters’ insatiable lust for young-adult vampire stories of any stripe, I suspect something called “Buffy” will find its way to the big screen. It may even be good. But without Whedon working the script, it won’t be Buffy. Asked for his reaction, Whedon dashed off an email to E!'s Kristin Dos Santos:
Kristin, I'm glad you asked for my thoughts on the announcement of Buffy the cinema film. This is a sad, sad reflection on our times, when people must feed off the carcasses of beloved stories from their youths—just because they can't think of an original idea of their own, like I did with my Avengers idea that I made up myself. Obviously I have strong, mixed emotions about something like this. My first reaction upon hearing who was writing it was, "Whit Stillman AND Wes Anderson? This is gonna be the most sardonically adorable movie EVER." Apparently I was misinformed. Then I thought, "I'll make a mint! This is worth more than all my Toy Story residuals combined!" Apparently I am seldom informed of anything. And possibly a little slow. But seriously, are vampires even popular any more? I always hoped that Buffy would live on even after my death. But, you know, AFTER. I don't love the idea of my creation in other hands, but I'm also well aware that many more hands than mine went into making that show what it was. And there is no legal grounds for doing anything other than sighing audibly. I can't wish people who are passionate about my little myth ill. I can, however, take this time to announce that I'm making a Batman movie. Because there's a franchise that truly needs updating. So look for The Dark Knight Rises Way Earlier Than That Other One And Also More Cheaply And In Toronto, rebooting into a theater near you. Leave me to my pain! Sincerely, Joss Whedon.
Press release (issued Nov. 22; the date is likely a typo):
FOR IMMEDIATE TELEASE WARNER BROS. PICTURES SHOWS ITS FANGS WITH A “BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER” REBOOT LOS ANGELES, NOVEMBER 11, 2010 – Atlas Entertainment announced today it is rebooting the beloved franchise, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, with Warner Bros. Pictures. Atlas’ Charles Roven and Steve Alexander will produce the feature film alongside Doug Davison and Roy Lee of Vertigo Entertainment (The Ring, How to Train Your Dragon, The Departed). Whit Anderson is writing the script. Warner Bros. Pictures optioned the rights from creators Fran and Kaz Kuzui, and from Sandollar Productions (Sandy Gallin and Dolly Parton), for Atlas and Vertigo to produce. Buffy the Vampire Slayer first appeared as a film in 1992, subsequently becoming a cult hit and spawning the wildly popular television series starring Sarah Michelle Gellar and David Boreanaz, among many others. “Whit approached us with an exciting idea about how to update Buffy,” said Roven. “There is an active fan base eagerly awaiting this character’s return to the big screen. We’re thrilled to team up with Doug and Roy on a re-imagining of Buffy and the world she inhabits. Details of the film are being kept under wraps, but I can say while this is not your high school Buffy, she’ll be just as witty, tough, and sexy as we all remember her to be.” Whit Anderson is represented by CAA, Wirehouse Entertainment and Julian Zajfen at Ziffren, Brittenham, Branca, Fischer, Gilbert-Lurie & Stifflemen
Find the Los Angeles Times’ story on Whit Anderson here.
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  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST

    No interest whatsoever in that

    by Ashen Shugar

    nuff' said

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Horrible, horrible idea

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Oy.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Booooooo

    by Trav

    WB, you ignorant sluts. No one wants the vortex of horse shit that will be a Whedon-less Buffy.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Booooooo

    by Trav

    WB, you ignorant sluts. No one wants the vortex of horse shit that will be a Whedon-less Buffy.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:22 p.m. CST

    How much longer will this last?

    by TeekayFortuwan

    Someone wake me up when the current teen obsession with vampires is over please.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Matthew Perry?

    by RipperGiles

    BAH! Proofread this shit first.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Way, waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too soon.

    by RobinP

    That's all I have to say.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:25 p.m. CST

    horrible idea for the geeks, but...

    by soup74

    brilliant idea for the twilight teens. <br><br>quit your bitching, geeks. this movie isnt for you.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Let the sucking begin...

    by covenant

    ...and not the good, vampire-or-BJ kind. Someone get me a sharp stake.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Weak Sauce

    by raidahguy

    Stop trying to cash in on that horrible Twilight wave

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Somebody gotta eat. Not sure who in this case.

    by JuanSanchez

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Th 92 Movie

    by tensticks

    For all its flaws still has charm and entertainment value. (And its only SERIOUSLY flawed if you compare it retractively to the TV show.) That said, I fear this IS a cash-grab waste...

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST

    On second thought: Lindsay Lohan as Buffy...

    by WriteForTheEdit

    ...and I'm all the way in.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:29 p.m. CST

    And fucking Paul Reubens!

    by WriteForTheEdit

    No Paul Reubens appearance, no sale, fuckers.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST

    What a great idea!

    by Rex Carsalot

    Surely NOTHING can go wrong with this, which has probably one of the most rabid and insane fanbases around! NOTHING!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST

    lame

    by rockness

    what else can be said?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST

    ha! ha!

    by TheBaxter

    suck on THAT, whedonites! next thing you know, they'll remake firefly as a movie starring justin bieber and the olsen twins, and it will make 20x the box office that serenity did!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Buffy fans to Boycott??

    by Quadrillionaire

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST

    MAY THE GODS HAVE MERCY ON US ALL.

    by Raymar

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Like we REALLY need this. Jesus!

    by scrote

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Wwwwhhhhhhhhh....

    by biscuithead

    ...hhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy??

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:34 p.m. CST

    AVENGERS movie...not so expensive any more

    by scrote

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:34 p.m. CST

    I wonder if whit Anderson

    by Bass Ackwards

    Is pitching herself as Buffy?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Isn't there enough crap to avoid

    by scrote

    without this at the theater? Roll on live action Smurfs movie....no wait...Cameron's done it already....

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Vampires are so HOT right now!

    by jimmy_009

    Cha-ching.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:38 p.m. CST

    A 29 year old scribe with no history

    by MustGoFaster

    of writing for television or film? Does anyone think this will be good?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Are the Warners desperately in need of money

    by rabidfnark

    all of a sudden? Don't they have Batman, and Superman, and Green Lantern, and.... well, all of DC to play around with? How many tent poles do they need? Without Whedon involved and no noteworthy writer attched this has disaster written all over it. I can't wait to hear how none of the original cast is involved. Deja vu all over again. Well, at least the writer (whatever her name is) has seen the TV series and claims to like like it, better than never having seen it and hating I guess.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST

    "IT" ..."Hating IT I guess."

    by rabidfnark

    Typing angry can be as dangerous as typing drunk.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Big Steaming Pile of SUCK!

    by Cpt Shaw

    I hope this Movie tanks fast...because it's one of the worst ideas I've heard. Not using the TV Actors TOTALLY ruins it for me! ARGH!!!!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Sasha Grey as NuBuffy

    by WriteForTheEdit

    I would also approve of this.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:41 p.m. CST

    I loved the Buffy series

    by donkey_lasher

    and while I'm perplexed at the idea of WB remaking the original movie in a way, I'm both interested and couldnt give a rats ass about this.<p> It could be good. It's about time we had some more "shit scary" vampires rather than the Anne Rice type.<p> I'm fully expecting a Dracula remake any day now.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    This TB needs more Boo-ing.

    by blackwood

    BOOOOOOOOOOOO.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:43 p.m. CST

    haha Stargate will never be rebooted

    by DioxholsterImperium

    because its too awesome!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:43 p.m. CST

    BINO

    by DewMan89

    yes?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:43 p.m. CST

    BOYCOTT BINO!

    by blackwood

    End the madness.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:45 p.m. CST

    And I misspelled "attached," too.

    by rabidfnark

    Damn.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:45 p.m. CST

    FYI: Green Hornet Trailer #2

    by Royston Lodge

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY6AhhSdzA8<p> I think it looks better than the Green Lantern trailer.<p> Best line: "No tights."

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Would work as a feminist "Fuck Twiglight statement"

    by David Cloverfield

    A girl who instead of pining after immortal monsters with cool hair kills the fuck out of them. I think there's a market for that.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:45 p.m. CST

    DewMan89!

    by blackwood

    Great minds, and all. So it's official -- now dubbed BINO, and for all time.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Blackwood

    by DewMan89

    Yeah, that was kinda cool.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Audience announces 100% lack of interest.

    by Jobacca

    This either wont get made or will go direct-to-DVD if it does.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Emily Haggins should direct it!

    by MustGoFaster

    I mean, after My Sucky Teen Romance she's going to be the "go to" person for crappy teen vampire films. Harry give WB a call.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Without Whedon it's not Buffy

    by chuckmoose

    Sad to see this happen.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:50 p.m. CST

    GB3 CASTING CALL IS OFFICIAL !!!

    by KilliK

    http://bit.ly/hPuDXB<br /> <p>Come on Harry,where are the news about this? we finally got an official confirmation that GB3 is a go.not that this is a good thing...but anyway.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Not a Whedon fan, but you Buffistas and Browncoats...

    by BurnHollywood

    ...Have my sympathy. This is fucking stupid.<p> Not just on an aesthetic level, but an economic one as well...you wouldn't believe the amount of nostalgia there is for the 90s out there in the key target demographic of Millennials.<p> No reboots, no prequels...just do a seven years later sequel to the series with Whedon and the original cast, written so a neophyte can catch on if they didn't watch (in that SW:ANH Obi-wan reflecting-on-the-past style...no flashbacks). It's either going to be a smash or not.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Fanfic ....

    by thorin01

    So basically the WB is paying this women to convert her 10 year old fanfic into a movie script.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    STOKED!! This is a Whedon free film.

    by chadiwack

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    If I had read the whole article...

    by rabidfnark

    I would have seen that they actually don't plan on using any characters from the TV series (let alone the actors). More good news. After all, why not fuck with the heads of some of the most loyal and crazy fans on the planet. Be careful WB, you're playing with fire here.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    oh and This Buffy Movie = Alternate Twilight Movie

    by KilliK

    you know that this is what this flick is going to end up being.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    by Professor.Heinrich.Von.Squawkencluck

    <p>In the entire history of stupid, this might be the stupidest thing I've ever read. I could understand if the franchise had ended in moribund fashion but..... oh that's right. It didn't.</p> <p>Buffy and Angel were iconic.. to whore the name out to satiate the Vampax generation is really really bad.</p>

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    wasnt there a love triangle with Angel and dork?

    by DioxholsterImperium

    so it is Twilight!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:53 p.m. CST

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    by Double M

    What kind of stupid bullshit is this? They acknowledge the fanbase of the show, and then go on to "re-boot". What. The. Fuck. Plus, if you can ink the old actors, you have a very widespread appeal, what with Hannigan a star on HIMYM, Boreanez on Bones, and of course SMG still having a huge name sitting at home waiting for a good project. Why go cheap? A movie with the original cast and characters would make serious bank, even outside of the hardcore fanboys and girls. Almost everyone has at least some basic recognition of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. And to 99%, that means Sarah Michelle. Ridiculousness.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Stargate fans > Brownshitcoats

    by DioxholsterImperium

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:54 p.m. CST

    fuck everything about this

    by lostboytexas

    first WB stakes the Lost boys with 2 shitty 'sequels' and now this? RAPE! RAPE!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:56 p.m. CST

    THOUGH...

    by lostboytexas

    if they cast the hot daughter from Modern Family as Buffy I would at least throw a wank or two its way

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:56 p.m. CST

    A reboot is the right way to go.

    by David Cloverfield

    I loved the hell out of the Buffyverse, but the end with the 20 something Buffy, the First Evil, the slayer army and the destroyed Hellmouth didn't let many places for the character to go. Especially in movie form. Buffy the Vampire Slayer works best when she's in school. The problem is they'll make it a terrible "dark starcrossed love" melodrama with a cute vampire boy. I hated that shit with Angel in the original series too. Until he went Angelus of course and started to murder the town.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    I say let it get made

    by hitchhiker42

    And when they spend $150 million on the production and marketing, and make $5 million in the theatres, they will realize oh shit - we are fucking retarded....least we can hope.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Why would Whedon be involved?

    by Cinemanimetal

    He already did his version of Buffy. In fact he's still doing it in comic book form. So why would he have anything to do with this? I don't see what's wrong with someone else making Buffy though I can understand why fans would feel it's unnecessary. Is Joss Whedon mad about this?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    No Whedon? That's like a Star Wars movie without Han Solo!

    by MattmanReturns

    Oh wait...

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    There are Stargate fans?

    by David Cloverfield

    Never met one after 2002.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:58 p.m. CST

    whats a Stargate?

    by lostboytexas

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    oops this is a Herc talkback

    by DioxholsterImperium

    i apologize, whedon is a great guy and so are his fans /not-sarcastic

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:01 p.m. CST

    this is what the new Buffy movie will look like:

    by DioxholsterImperium

    http://bit.ly/d4am53 <p> lol

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:02 p.m. CST

    To arms!

    by DarthScotland

    Geeks of the internet! To Arms! <p> Buffy with no Whedon, i think not!<p> Constant abuse stopped spaced USA from becomming a reality, let them feel our wrath on a buffy reboot.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:02 p.m. CST

    A world of No.

    by buffywrestling

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Consider this shit boycotted like a motherfucker

    by JackieJokeman

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:05 p.m. CST

    @MattmanReturns. WHATEVER!! Don't soil Solo's name.

    by chadiwack

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:06 p.m. CST

    No thank you.

    by therobcat

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:06 p.m. CST

    new buffy will entice fans and not care about whedon

    by DioxholsterImperium

    and thats the way it works around here

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:07 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    This is a cleverly written article. Presented like a statement of the facts... but with just enough subtle bias to sell the writers own personal agenda.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Remember what happened to the Spaced remake?

    by Henry Fool

    As a die-hard Whedon fan, this is just blasphemy. I plan to ridicule the production at every opportunity.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Craziest idea since rebooting the Spiderman Films

    by SmokingRobot

    What are they smoking in California these days?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:19 p.m. CST

    As KaidSmith said on Twitter a few minutes ago..

    by PennsyDeux

    "STOP wasting your time on a Buffy reboot no one will see and make me a damn Veronica Mars movie! UGH." Fuck the Kuzui's. Boycott the BINO movie.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST

    BINO! BINO! BINO! BINO!

    by PennsyDeux

    You get the meaning, I think..

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:25 p.m. CST

    I could not care one "Whit" about this without Whedon

    by Zardoz

    Buffy only exists in the comic books for me now. Zero interest in this blatant cash-grab...

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:28 p.m. CST

    - A slayer's blood, is irresistable...

    by David Cloverfield

    - You would never hurt me! I trust you! - No Buffy, you don't know me. The things I've done... We can never be together! Slayers and Vampires are mortal enemies! It's our destiny to kill one another. - I don't care about destiny! I only care about you! THERE, FILL IN THE BLANKS. WHERE'S MY PAYCHECK?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Twilight ripped off Buffy so this makes sense...

    by andrew coleman

    Only if they go a different direction and have Buffy just epically slaughtering pussy vampires we all know where this is going. They are making a big mistake though... They probably have thought "Who gives a shit what the Buffy nerds think" and plan to make a movie aimed at females mainly. Problem is some of the biggest Buffy fans are women. I have a number of female friends who LOVE the Buffy show and would avoid this movie if it tries to "Twilight" this film.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Yay, a Buffy movie without tongue in cheek dialogue

    by MattmanReturns

    They already made a Buffy movie without Whedon. It was called Twilight. No thanks.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Like Whedon or not

    by Kremzeek

    Buffy is HIS creation. Nobody else can write this but him. I'd settle for Jane Espenson if Whedon was co-writing, but to not be involved at all? Ridiculous. Buffy isn't Star Wars where its creator has gone coo-coo crazy off the deep end and has no connection to the fans anymore... Whedon *IS* Buffy. This will fail.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    The question is- which way will they jump?

    by Majereuk

    There's really two directions they could take this in- first, the blatant Twilightesque cash-grab, with Buffy all lovestruck and moping after some vamp. Ah, but she must slay him! Oh, the angst! Alternatively, and the fact that the writer is apparently a fan may be significant here, they may decided to make the new version the Anti-Twilight with maximum undead ass-kicking and minimal smouldering. In which case it may be watchable. Heresy, sure, but watchable heresy.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Herc's head exploding

    by punto

    with the idea of Buffy that he doesn't care about. The idea of buffy is that it's the opposite of all these vampire crap anyways, since the chick is the one who kicks ass.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Fuck this shit!

    by rbatty024

    That's all. Fuck it.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Imagine the traumatized little shits

    by David Cloverfield

    If the movie was truly about a little blonde girl going apeshit on vamps. There are no "girl power" films anymore. Buffy could be more relevant than ever. And could make a good counter franchise to Twighlight. Which one your daughter prefers would tell a lot about her. Sigh... They'll twilight it up instead...

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:39 p.m. CST

    I hate Buffy, who cares....

    by mastermold

    Buffy led to Twilight, ergo Buffy is shit! Besides why is everyone so pessimistic? People thought remaking Battlestar Galactica was a bad idea; not so much now. Maybe this may be actually better.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST

    And This Is 100% Too Late To Cash Into The Twilight Craze, Or...

    by Media Messiah

    ...the Buffy fan base that Warner ignored for so many years. Now it is one big..."Who cares about Buffy?" They (Warner) are just pissed that Whedon is doing films for Marvel, and this is their way to fuck with him, well, you guys had your chance to give him Wonder Woman and you screwed the guy, and he's moved on.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Worst. Idea. Ever.

    by WatertownSurfer

    This is the equivalent of remaking ESB sans Lucas or any of his characters. Top it off Warner Bros... get Uwe Boll to direct it.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Thorin01 said it best

    by WatertownSurfer

    "So basically the WB is paying this women to convert her 10 year old fanfic into a movie script"

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Yay! Another reboot!

    by cgh123

    I hope they "telease" it soon!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST

    ever heard of proofreading?

    by asojax

    Do none of the writers on AICN proofread anymore? "If somebody told me Roven does not who Willow Rosenberg is, I believe I could contain my shock." If that is in the fact the way the sentence is suppose to be structured then all i can say is I would rather have a 2 year old write for this site than jump on here every now and then to see someone use "Antepenultimate" in a header when they can't even be bothered to proofread what they write. now about the actual article, ummm does anyone really care about a buffy the vampire slayer movie at this point? the original movie was such a cheese fest i actually enjoyed it, the tv series did a great job of actually being serious and dark that it worked. But do we need to see another vampire film about a cheerleader who fights vampires? probably gonna get kristen "can't act" stewart and robert "no range" pattinson.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:46 p.m. CST

    What does Tokyo POP has anything to do with this?

    by mistergreen

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST

    please don't

    by jameskpolk

    equate Ann Rice's vampires to the Twilight troupe. Her stories have depth and characters you like even as they are doing despicable things.<br><br>twilight just has sparkles and teen angst.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:52 p.m. CST

    This is borderline offensive.

    by fiester

    And will surely be shit. What a horrible thing to do to a beloved franchise.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:53 p.m. CST

    "..creators Fran and Kaz Kuzui"

    by supertoyslast

    Huh? Whedon didn't create Buffy? Or was unable to keep the rights for some reason?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST

    WTF!?

    by fiester

    The hand the reins to this iconic franchise to a 29 year old actress with no prior writing credits! That's unreal. Whose niece is Whit Anderson? Unfuckingbelieveable. What complete shit-fuck nonsense this is. Unfucking real!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:03 p.m. CST

    no joss no buffy singalong rally- washington d.c.

    by alice133

    100 million whedonites attend and singalong.<p>ugh.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:04 p.m. CST

    An idea for a weekly series that might work

    by GreatOne3

    Have each episode focus on a different slayer throughout the ages. Could have stories set in the modern era or in the 1800s, during Revolutionary War or during Bolshevek Revolution or during the reign of Charlemagne. Have the slayer be portrayed each week by a different young up-and-coming actress, or even newer ones. <p>Acknowledge that without continuity of characters might be hard to draw on an audience, but could be creatively freeing for the writers, who don't have to focus on the specifics of a general group of characters.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Glad this shit isn't happening to Angel! Oh well!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    This film is awaiting an immediate reboot!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Good lord........

    by lewarcher1949

    Is WB so desperate now that Harry potter is ending that they will grab at anything? Yeesh....

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Buffy the Shit Sprayer.

    by Paratrooper_Activity

    This will go down as one of the worse movie ideas in history.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST

    I wonder why

    by Mr Lucas

    Whedon never bought the rights. Actually, if this crapfest gets made, it will make the TV show look even better by comparison. Unfortunately, it would also put people off checking it out for the first time.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST

    if you think Buffy led to Twilight

    by oisin5199

    then you've never seen Buffy. In fact, look up Buffy vs. Edward on youtube and you'll find a video that shows how ridiculous the whole Twilight thing is in light of the Slayer. I vaguely remember this girl at Northwestern, but I'm hoping she gets the show if she's a fan. But I don't know what the 'not your high school Buffy' comment is supposed to mean. Does that mean she won't be in high school? Or that she's not like the Buffy we remember from high school (well, not me. I was in grad school when Buffy came out). I still won't support this without Whedon or the show's characters and cast, but I'm slightly curious.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:23 p.m. CST

    GreatOne3

    by BurnHollywood

    Cool idea.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Note to screenwriters

    by Robber_Button

    The Kazuis and a parade of faceless Warners execs have Buffy in a basement and are running a train on that ass. <br></br> <br></br> This why you protect your properties and not sell the rights wholesale to the highest bidder. <br></br> <br></br> It's a fucking sad day when I say I have more faith in Whedon's feminist credentials than the "gorgeous 29-year-old actress named Whit Anderson" but Twilight was little more than a tale of unrequited jailbait Jumping and abstinence banner waving. At least Buffy was written as a rounded character in charge of her own fucking existence.<br></br> <br></br>Man... Who's up for some Buffy bukkake ?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Actually, Dracula led to Twilight

    by MattmanReturns

    Therefore Dracula sucks?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:33 p.m. CST

    asojax - ever heard of irony?

    by Jam Banjo

    "If that is in the fact the way the sentence is suppose to be structured then all i can say is..." ha. Quality mate. I do love hypocrisy.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Buffy brand = $$$

    by Koborover

    Get in line, brand name cash-in!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:40 p.m. CST

    What The Fuck

    by S-Mart shopper

    When was this article edited?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Buffy season 5 - 7 sucked

    by MustGoFaster

    Season 4 was passable, but after that...sheesh. Put it this way - Whedon lost his way. All creators fuck their creations eventually (just look at Lucas and Star Wars and Chris Carter and X Files). I'd actually like to see an X Files reboot WITHOUT Chris Carter involved. Likewise someone else other than Whedon CAN make Buffy good again. I'm not saying this team will, but it is possible to do it again without Whedon.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Can't believe it... They're soooooo stupid!

    by MrFloppy

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST

    NO. None of Buffy's fanbase wants it like this.

    by Demosthenes2

    I mean seriously? You can't compare Buffy and Batman because Batman had already had so many different writers and voices creating multiple versions of the character by the time Batman Begins rolled around. If they want to do this without Joss, they need to wait longer.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Thanks, BHB

    by GreatOne3

    Seemed like a natural way to continue the show after the main cast was through. They certainly ventured back in time often enough and showed several historical slayers for the concept to be familiar. Having one shots with younger, known actresses would keep the costs down, but also (hopefully) draw enough fans to see a particular name actress or setting the episode during a particular event or era. Guest stars from the original show (or at least references to them) could boost up the fanboy aspect.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Sorkin would never do this

    by CountryBoy

    Diablo, maybe.

  • bwhahahahah

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST

    AICN talkbacker*

    by Mike_D

    needs an edit feature

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7 p.m. CST

    This is why Hollywood is foolish: they totally

    by CreasyBear

    misunderstand the appeal of certain properties. Yeah, Gellar had a fit body and there were vampires, but the show was popular because of the fun and wit of the scripting. The creativity and the dialogue (too quirky for some) are what created the fan base, not the fact it has a few basic elements that hundreds of other shows have.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Not sure what's more shocking...

    by chiefpapa

    ..that this Buffy movie is Whedon-free or that Aaron Sorkin and Diablo Cody was uttered in the same sentence.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Whedon is so fucking overrated

    by mojination

    i wonder if this new movie will have woosh noises when they fight. tongue in cheek? tongue in ass.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:05 p.m. CST

    NoooooooooOOO

    by This_talkback_is_on_CRAZYPILLS

    I will still see this, though. Noooooooooo!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Dakota Fanning or Jessica Alba as Buffy??

    by brocknroll

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Horrible idea.

    by Mahaloth

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Fuck Buffy

    by caruso_stalker217

    It was a shit movie, then it was a shit T.V. show. Now it'll be a shit movie again. Who cares? <p>Says the guy taking the time to comment on the story for something he hates, blah blah, etc.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST

    I'm just gonna repost what I just posted on Twitch

    by TBYITBSITBH

    As a Whedon fan this makes me throw up in my mouth a bit. I didn't really think they were gonna go ahead with it <P> As a person who loves classic comic characters like Batman, Superman, The X-Men etc, who have seen so many different renditions by so many artists, many of them truly great, I understand that this could be good for the character and universe of Buffy. And could CONCEIVABLY, at least - however unlikely - be a good movie. It's funny because we all kind of get upset at how artists have been - and clearly still are - treated by the companies who (unfortunately, we often tend to think) own the copyright on a property..but it's largely by virtue of that fact that other voices are given a chance to extend and explore those properties. And it's by virtue of those continuations that a character can live on for decades and reach truly mythic proportions. If Batman had died with Bob Kane, we'd surely have missed out on some epic stuff <P> Of course, Joss Whedon isn't dead - is in fact still penning buffy stories, int he comics. So why not let him tell one of those stories on the big screen?? for a reboot without him involved, this is too soon. But hey, maybe in a hundred years someone like Chris Nolan will come along and make one of the awesomest Buffy movies of all time. <P> I'll be dead, but hey haha. Incidentally, that always makes me think...there must be people alive still (just. maybe) who first read Batman, Supes etc back when they were pretty new, and I wonder if any are fans to this day, and if they go along to each new blockbuster reboot, and what they think heh. Somebody should hunt one of them down and interview em <P> p.s. and in any case, it was Whedon's overt intention to create a character who was iconic, larger than life, mythic. Buffy survived her first mishandled movie, and lived to be recast and re-envisioned, so hey. <P> But if this does end-up just a cash-grab, and shithouse, and Twilighty in ANY way whatsoever then I reserve the right to retract all I just said

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Does the word "Duh" mean anything to you?

    by ultragoregrind

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Seriously...

    by jdb1972

    ... is anyone involved expecting to make one penny from this? Gotta be some sort of elaborate tax dodge or something.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:37 p.m. CST

    "Gorgeous 29-year-old actress..."

    by howlingdervish

    Seriously, what bearing does her level of attractiveness have for this writing gig?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Worst idea in the history of bad ideas...

    by bohdi71

    Buffy fans will hate this idea. Didnt the learn anything from the first movie?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Fuck this SHAMELESS cashgrabbing BULLSHIT>

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    I mean really. FUCK OFF. <p> <p> If you'd've told me back when Buffy was midway through its run, that is was anything other than Scooby-Doo girl-power monster-of-the-week crap, I'd laughed at you and told you to grow up and watch something adult. <p> <p> Then a funny thing happened. I picked up the DVD set of Firefly. Thought it looked shitty, like that Andromeda rubbish or any other number of bad sci-fi shows. <p> <p> I wound up watching that series over one night and was blown away by the conceit, the writing, the characterisation, the tone, the richness, the ambition, the scope, and the aim of it. I remember thinking "this is it. This is the new fucking STAR WARS". <p> <p> This prompted me to give Whedon a fair crack. Couldn't bring myself still to go for the valley-girl cheerleader killing monsters in a teens' show, so I did Angel instead. <p> <p> Which blew me the fuck away. Especially when it went into some dark, dark places. <p> <p> Finally, back to the beginning - and Buffy. Yeah, I'd seen (and actually enjoyed, for what it was, the half-baked original movie) but I wasn't prepared for a genuinely clever, witty, often moving, sometimes shockingly dark, perfectly cast, lovingly crafted SAGA of television genius. <p> <p> That's what Whedon created. Some of the most genuinely terrifying things ever put on television found their way into that show. Not just monsters and ideas, but vague, unseen notions. (Buffy being TORN FROM HEAVEN and eternal bliss, and having to claw her way out of her own grave, is a genuinely true, chilling "horror" idea). And some of the warmest, wittiest drama (Spike was solid fucking GOLD). <p> <p> THAT'S what Buffy was. Not a fucking knocked-off Twilight cash-in that pisses all over a genuinely wonderful creation. <p> <p> Apologies for the ranting, the tangents, the swearing. But shit like this gets me mad.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Mojination: No, Whedon Is Quite Brilliant!!! The Problem...

    by Media Messiah

    ...is, he has started to believe his own press and has become lazy, sloppy and arrogant, as a result, but hopefully, he will use his chance with Captain America and The Avengers, to find himself again.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Joss Wheaton has weighed in (and he's not happy)

    by GreatOne3

    From E! News:<p> This is a sad, sad reflection on our times, when people must feed off the carcasses of beloved stories from their youths-just because they can't think of an original idea of their own, like I did with my Avengers idea that I made up myself. <p> Obviously I have strong, mixed emotions about something like this. My first reaction upon hearing who was writing it was, "Whit Stillman AND Wes Anderson? This is gonna be the most sardonically adorable movie EVER." Apparently I was misinformed. Then I thought, "I'll make a mint! This is worth more than all my Toy Story residuals combined!" Apparently I am seldom informed of anything. And possibly a little slow. But seriously, are vampires even popular any more? <p> I always hoped that Buffy would live on even after my death. But, you know, AFTER. I don't love the idea of my creation in other hands, but I'm also well aware that many more hands than mine went into making that show what it was. And there is no legal grounds for doing anything other than sighing audibly. I can't wish people who are passionate about my little myth ill. I can, however, take this time to announce that I'm making a Batman movie. Because there's a franchise that truly needs updating. So look for The Dark Knight Rises Way Earlier Than That Other One And Also More Cheaply And In Toronto, rebooting into a theater near you.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Wheaton = Whedon

    by GreatOne3

    (Slaps self in forehead)

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Won't happen

    by J.B.M.A.

    This utter bollocks won't make it past the first few script drafts. No fucker wants to go see it.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Ughh

    by Gwynplaine

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Caruso_stalker217: I'd Really Like To, Long And Hard...

    by Media Messiah

    ...but Buffywrestling won't give me a chance!!!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Is this a joke?

    by Carl's hat

    'Cause I ain't laughin'.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST

    GreatOne3: That Happens To Me All The Time

    by Media Messiah

    No big deal. Thanks for the post, that's cool!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Epic fail on all levels!!!

    by CrusherJen

    Seriously, this is a complete and total abomination in the making. Though it's not like anybody's gonna care what *I* think since I'm not only out of the target demographic (38) but I also adored Buffy, Angel and Firefly... but still. We don't need a "reboot" of a show this recent, we don't need yet another copycat unoriginal teen vampire movie, and we sure as hell don't need Buffy w/o Whedon. This is a blatant soulless greed-driven cash grab that will crash and burn at the box office-- they sure as hell won't get *my* money!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Career-ender for everyone involved ...

    by Corwin_X2

    ... right down to the caterers! We might poke fun at Twilight and it's tweenager fans - the obvious target marks, sorry audience, for this imminent trainwreck. But 99%+ of them either grew up watching Buffy TS and/or have the (repeatedly watched) complete box set. They're going to be as insulted by whatever these dickwads throw up as anyone else. The moody-teenage-vampire bubble just officially burst. And as usual, the mindless twats who just bought into a bubble at its peak are going to lose their shirts. Serves the bastards right!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Stargate Atlantis had space vampires , make that movie

    by DioxholsterImperium

    Buffy = Teyla <p> Angel = Todd

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:15 p.m. CST

    HOLLYWOOD NEEDS A REBOOT IN THE ASS!!!

    by Brannagins Law

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Little FYI for Daft Punk/TRON fans

    by decypher44

    Official, complete score just leaked.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:17 p.m. CST

    and I heard it's good

    by decypher44

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Not A Chance...

    by chewie6804

    I am a huge fan of Buffy. I am their target demo. I WILL NOT be seeing this without Joss Whedon involvement.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST

    their target demo are little teenage girls

    by DioxholsterImperium

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Free Wesley Snipes

    by Gidney

    because only Blade can save us now.* *Please note this refers to the character Blade in Blade I and Blade II. Blade III does not exist in this dojo.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST

    "Reboot" is another word for "blatant theft"

    by chromedome

    If you haven't got a original thought in your head, you either work for Syfy, or your name is Braga, and/or you "reboot" (copy, steal, plagiarize) others' works, but you say things like "re-imagining" or "fresh take" or crap like that.<p>We all know what it is, though.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:30 p.m. CST

    fuck it to hell.

    by RedHorseVector

    i will download this film drunkenly and heckle the screen, but i ain't gonna pay for it! don't even like joss whedon, i just don't have a taste for watered-down shit.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:32 p.m. CST

    i made a vampire have sex with a werewolf

    by DioxholsterImperium

    fucking junkie

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:43 p.m. CST

    SIGH

    by MattS

    All I will say, if the Vamps glitter in this remake, I'm OUT!!! Joss's Avenger comment was funny

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Why the fuck to it?

    by Michael_Jacksons_Ghost

    Without anylinks or characters from the show, that is fucking clown shoes. 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag is what that is. I won't be seeing it.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:55 p.m. CST

    no offense meant

    by jameskpolk

    but the constant touting of Stargate Universe is getting a teensy bit tiresome. Not asimovlives tiring, but still...

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST

    So their going to have Angel...

    by Yeti

    or an Angel like character in the movie I takie it?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Who gives a fuck?

    by boardbrtn

    I mean seriously, that show was retarded.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... whao... back up a second...

    by Johnno

    WB is paying a person who's never written a script for television or film before good money for a terrible idea???<br><br>Where the hell do I sign up for this? I'll write it for you WB!!! And I'll do it for half of what you're paying her!!! I've never even bothered watching the show or the movie. So I think I'm the perfect person to understand just whatever it is this franchise has been missing to catch my appeal!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9 p.m. CST

    Joss Reaction is always a funny reaction

    by buffywrestling

    They can't use anything from the TV series. No Willow, Joyce, Giles, Xander, Spike, Angel, nothing. This is a reboot of the BtVS film only. It really, truly is BINO.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Pisses me off

    by T-RACE

    Seriously, can't they just leave a good thing alone?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Reboot the Reboot

    by LeeMajors

    We're running dangerously low on easy movies for the Studio execs to reboot. Are we just going to get more reboots of reboots of remakes? I bet they'll think of some cool new term for it so we won't even notice, though.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Who did screenwriter blow to get this gig?

    by Rupee88

    not saying she did but one has to wonder

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Tokyo Pop?

    by MothrasGhost

    I just kicked my dog after watching that

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST

    For Buffy, they should cast

    by Colonel Activity

    Shaquille O'Neal as KAZAAM! the rapping genie as Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:16 p.m. CST

    I'll tell you what needs a reboot!

    by Mutley26

    Battlestar Galactica.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST

    jameskpolk

    by DioxholsterImperium

    Whats a stargate?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Meh...

    by Bootskin

    ..Buffy's over-rated...like most geek-material. Just get SMG nude for fuck's sake.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Bootskin, everything's overrated or underrated at AICN

    by MattmanReturns

    Nothing's rated just right here, apparently.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Terrible idea

    by My Pretty Pony

    It's obvious that this is happening now for no other reason than these jerks wanting to cash in on the current vampire fad. Without Joss Whedon and SMG, it really isn't "Buffy". I don't think most fans of the television series will even bother to watch this.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Whedon's reaction was classy

    by MattmanReturns

    As always.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Continue TV show with Joss and gang or BUST

    by Drath

    And fuck off anyone who wants to do something different this soon after the show. Not only too soon, too dumb. Can't they reboot something that needs a total reinvention with different writers/creators like HEROES or something?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Terrible idea: Great Talkback! Especially Stargate Jab

    by Stormwatcher

    Dude with the long name> HAha Stargate will never be rebooted. You sir, made my night!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Seriously, an update with Whedon, SMG would do well

    by Stormwatcher

    better than this...I predict 9million opening, followed by 69 percent decline. total box office, 31 million worldwide.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST

    but.. Buffy's supporting characters were the best

    by houbou

    Willow, Xander, Spike, Giles, Angel, Darla, Cordilia and Anya were the reason I watched both Buffy and Angel shows. Buffy and Kid sister were kinda lame, but the other characters made the show worth watching. So, if this reboot doesn't have these characters, I sure hope that the Buffy character in the new movie isn't as whinny as the TV Series version.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST

    This news had Herc Hate all over it!

    by jazzylg

    Herc being such a Whedon junkie, this had to bite for him. How would the Warners react to a Disney produced Superman Flick, when the rights turn over to the Siegals and Shusters, and they decide to jump ship from DC? Wow, Superman in the Marvel Universe! It can happen!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:40 p.m. CST

    And here I was hoping for a Michael Bay Buffy reboot. ;->

    by cookepuss

    "Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Revenge of Lefty the One Armed Vampire"<p> 36DD Buffy. Vamps that don't just dust, but explode. A constantly moving camera that actually makes its actors ill. .... Now that's Michael Bay-licious. <p> <p> Seriously, this is just a sad cash grab. A reboot of the series would be okay... only if it needed rebooting. The show fixed every shitty thing done by the 1992 flick. For 7 seasons, faults & all, it was a masterful piece of genre TV that stands among the very best that the medium has to offer. What better way to honor it than to forget it?<p> <p> I can only join Joss in sighing openly. You never mess with another man's rhubarb. <p> <p> That said, IF I had to cast a post highschool Buffy, I'd probably opt for Danielle Panabaker (Sky High, Friday the 13th). Had this been a reboot of the TV show, I'd have gone with her look-alike sister Kay Panabaker (No Ordinary Family). They both fit that nice middle ground between Swanson & SMG. Both give off that same on-screen vibe that SMG had before she got cast.<p> <p> Regardless, I won't see the movie in theaters. I'll wait for the DVD, more out of morbid curiosity, but I won't give them the benefit of my $12 and one reason to make a sequel.<p> <p> I'm more upset by what I fear that they'll do to this flick than I am about Joss' absence. Just look at how recent remakes of Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, and Clash of the Titans have turned out. Even if the film you're remaking is goofy, like the 1992 Buffy, you take a huge risk of alienating the hardcore fans by making the remake "extreme" and "edgy." Really. Just leave it the fuck alone.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:44 p.m. CST

    I'm buying 2 tickets for this

    by Tall_Boy66

    Just to piss off the talkbackers.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Herc's love stain on this story or not...

    by cookepuss

    You can't deny that this is a show that had a massive following. You can't deny that these characters mean something to people. It may not have the same universal appeal of a Star Wars or LOTR, but it has a special place in many people's hearts. Buffy mixed teen drama with horror and large season long story arcs. It mixed metaphor with monsters beautifully. TV traditionally sucks at this sort of genre fusion. Herc's stink or not, his Buffy love only echoes that of a fair number of people, even 7 years after its ending.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST

    The bright side: they can't win.

    by blackwood

    No matter what they do -- fans of the series are legion, and we will grumble loudly and frequently. Fans of TWILIGHT might take a look, but they have that wereboyfriend movie coming out, and also, TWILIGHT is going to be over, fans grow up and move on to grown up movies for grown ups, and they're going to find a disinterested public.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Actually, I hope this succeeds for one reason

    by cookepuss

    If they make a REAL vampire movie, where the monsters are actually scary evil, and they sucker the Twitards in... Maybe... just maybe... we can convert a new generation and undo the damage done by fucking Edward & Bella. That's the only way I'll support this shit, as a protest against goddamn Twilight.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST

    whedon came up with the avengers?

    by jon pertwee

    has anyone asked stan lee about this?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST

    LOL@buffy reboot.

    by chainsaw_shawn

    the first movie was insanely horrible!!! why reboot that piece of crap!?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST

    buffy should be played by sam worthington

    by antonphd

    he did a great job playing persius in the remake of clash of the titans. he has some time before avatar 2 and 3 film. make buffy a boy instead of a girl. that is magic waiting to happen.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Beiber the Manhood Slayer

    by cookepuss

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Yes! Great news!

    by TV's Frank

    Another remake/boot/quel/dieahorribleagonizingdeathyouhollywoodfucksyourblackenedsoulswillknownorestfromtorment<p>Awesome!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST

    LOL@whedon's response.

    by chainsaw_shawn

    That is fucking awesome. I didnt know he got residuals for old movies such as toy story! Wow. he still gets a cut from the tv show? when it airs?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST

    I vote we get Lindsay Lohan as Buffy

    by cookepuss

    She dusts the vamps and then snorts them up. Naturally, you'd undo her rehab, but fuck it. Nothing beats a vampire dust high.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Tokyo Pop?

    by Bass Ackwards

    What's that link about?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Why not just reboot the Buffyverse starting with Fray?

    by cookepuss

    I know that most fans don't know her, but that'd actually make it a good entry point for Buffy n00bs. Not only do you reboot the slayer mythology for the movies, but you also give moviegoers something flashier with the VFX of a sci-fi future. Kinda like Buffy meets the Fifth Element. Really stupid to NOT even consider this as a valid restarting point. You can allude to the past slayers without actually stepping on anybody's toes. Actually, I'd kill to watch that as a weekly series.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    I Saw Whit Anderson's picture ...

    by rabidfnark

    She IS very pretty in a what-if-lindsay-lohan-were-to-clean-up-and live-to-see-thirty-eight sort of way. How that qualifies her to reboot Buffy is beyond me, though. I also checked out her IMDB profile and it's paper thin in terms of ACTING, and shows nothing for writing. So she's obviously perfect. I mean, I didn't expect Aaron Sorkin, but damn.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:19 p.m. CST

    I'll second Sam Worthington as Buffy.

    by rabidfnark

    Just seeing everyone call him "Buffy" over and over would be worth the ticket price alone.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:19 p.m. CST

    RSANTA...it's because of that twat Whedon....

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    ...that we're now all suffering through Edward and smegging Bella. He was the berk who lowered the bar of vamp flicks from 'horror' to 'chick flick' by making them palatable to girls who think a limp-wristed soulful vampire is 'edgy' and romatic. Cheers Whedon. Not having him attached to this as far as I'm concerned can only be an increase in quality.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    B O Y C O T T

    by crankyoldguy

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Lowered the bar? Really?

    by cookepuss

    Granted, there's some star crossed forbidden love stuff in Buffy, but there's also a fair amount of violence - especially for a late 90s network TV show. Buffy wasn't about the main character's love life anyway. The show was metaphor after metaphor about things like growing up and loss, but I'd hardly call that girly chick flick stuff. Having seen the 1992 movie, I never expected the TV show to be a weekly version of Near Dark. At the same time, I never expected to get a show where the characters were so fully realized. In that respect, it exceeded the parameters of nearly every vampire story that preceded it. How you can draw Twilight/Buffy parallels is beyond me. The similarities stop at only a very few points. Not only because Buffy was told in 108+ full hours, but because Twilight is far, far more shallow and hollow.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:38 p.m. CST

    This, From The Same Guys Who Cruely Cancelled The Show

    by Media Messiah

    Hollywood is run by a bunch of sociopaths!!!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:44 p.m. CST

    @ MothrasGhost

    by GooberNGrape

    bwah-hahaha! <br> i mean, poor doggie. <br> <br> srsly though, <br> "Thanks" for another good movie, Kuzuis. <br> (Kuzuii? Kuzuieses?) <br> <br> feh.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Hint_of_Smegma, I have a phone call from Anne Rice waiting for y

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    Hint_of_Smegma -- please come to the red courtesy phone.

  • I still haven't seen Wolverine, just on principle. And it feels goooooood. The Buffy universe was net net fantastic - do it justice, or don't do it.

  • I still haven't seen Wolverine, just on principle. And it feels goooooood. The Buffy universe was net net fantastic - do it justice, or don't do it.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 10:59 p.m. CST

    I predict cancellation before Casting.

    by Atomica

    This isn't gonna happen. Someone has the brains to make this die.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:05 p.m. CST

    tokyo pop...

    by nerfherder111

    was directed by fran kuzui

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:06 p.m. CST

    My new hobby - punishing verbal quips on this idea

    by AJC617

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Whedon's response is 100% class

    by SifoDyasJr.

    Made me laugh while getting across the point that while he's not happy about it, there's nothing he can really do about it.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:10 p.m. CST

    It's not too late to jump ship Whedon

    by Nerd Rage

    anything to get you away from Avengers.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:12 p.m. CST

    LOL @ his "original idea" of the avengers

    by brechtsky

    so stupid its hilarious ... so did I miss the part where they said it would be the exact same story and plot? Because from the Roven quote, sounds like its gonna be different. .. and guess what joss-y boy ... without the plot of your avengers movie, you're doing the same fucking thing ... taking other peoples creations, and making your own story... so get off your high horse ... at very least until its been less than ten years since your last true success.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:16 p.m. CST

    Rsanta74: Joss Owns Fray

    by Media Messiah

    Warner and the folks that own the movie rights from the original film are just trying to steal the authorship, hence the reboot, but as I understand it, they have to produce it as a comedy. Well, that was what was said when they tried to produce a reboot version of it shortly after the TV version of Buffy was cancelled from its second network, that being, the CW. In a internet posted news story, a female producer was bragging that she and some other people that produced the original theatrical film...owned the movie rights to Buffy and they had strict rights to produce it as a comedy, if I recall correctly? They had some attitude about Whedon and planned to make the film without him, even then. I suppose these greedy crackpots are more interested in spinning-off their own characters, merchandise and cartoons from a film franchise, that is, if they manage to make the first reboot film a hit. This could mean millions to them when it comes to toys and video game tie-ins from the reboot. Imagine the confusion in the marketplace between the Buffy TV show merchandise, DVDs, and that of any new franchise? That is what they want. They are hoping to pull a bait and switch, using the Buffy TV show's appeal to its fanbase as the lure--however, I think this plan will backfire on them, as there is so much other Buffy merchandise from the show, still out there, and being reissued all the time, chances are that any new fans the reboot folks might try to profit from, will mix-up pre-exiting Buffy fair, with the new stuff, that latter, which will only have a minority hold in the market, thus, most of the inadvertant sells will go to stuff that Joss created, and has profit participation in. IF I was in the position of Joss and Fox, I'd screw WB by editing together some old Buffy TV episodes with some enhanced effects, using new masters, and release them as TV movies to cable, DVD, and broadcast TV...when the reboot movie comes-out on cable, DVD and broadcast TV--that, and I authorize a line of new merchandise from the TV show; then, flood the marketplace with it, and should the reboot movie be a hit, guess what, it will create so much market confusion, it will really fuck WB, and the production team that sold the Buffy movie rights to them!!!! A large bit of poetic justice, huh???!!!! <BR><BR>BTW, you are correct, Joss and Fox can still do new Buffy TV series, as they own the rights to all things Buffy on TV, including those based upon Fray, Faith, Buffy, and Angel, etc. If I was them, I greenlight one of the series, and screw WB on the eve of them releasing the reboot movie by placing it on Fox TV. No matter what the ratings are, they should give the new series and any sister series they may follow-up with, guaranteed 5 year runs, each much like the Trek series follow-ups in the 80s, and 90s. They'll make their money back on the DVD sells and rentals, as well as any following merchandise. Also, they pick up some of the audience from American Idol and Glee if they cross-market any new Buffy series to them. It could be a win-win for Fox and Joss, screw WB, et al.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:20 p.m. CST

    sifodyas -- time to learn what class is

    by brechtsky

    calling a young writer given a chance to prove herself, that clearly has admiration for your work, a hack ... true class.... especially, as i said, when hes just as willing to do virtually the same thing. Hey, dont get me wrong, I like a lot of whedon's work ... but his response =/= classy at all.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Brechtsky: He Talking About Bringing Those Characters, The Aveng

    by Media Messiah

    ...as a collective, in terms of a live action film. This, The Avengers, is to Marvel, what JLA would have been to the WB. Joss' take could be as influential as when the X-Men were finally brought to screen, or bigger, if done right. It's ironic that Joss was involved with at least two of the X-Men films, including the first one, but his work was butchered, and largely edited-out, and went completely uncredited.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:28 p.m. CST

    mediamessiah -

    by brechtsky

    - regardless, pre-existing characters just recently on film ... yet he's willing to take his shot at creating a worthwhile story for these same characters ... whereas if someone wants to do it with his, its sacrilege ...

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:31 p.m. CST

    You guys know Buffy was a movie first, right?

    by HB_Dad

    Had Luke Perry in it and a much hotter Buffy than we got on the show...

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Brechtsky: Dude...Joss Was Right To Do That

    by Media Messiah

    His (Joss') ex-bosses, who are producing the reboot film, failed to mention him in their press-release, and even took full credit by name, several times, for creating Buffy...and the world she inhabits, and that is simply a lie--and everybody in the industry, and media, know it!!! That is like saying to Joss, "Fuck you and your fucking family--bitch!!!" Now, how would you react to some people, who, in front of God and everybody, took credit for your works? That is the same as stealing food off the table from your kids. When someone steals out of the mouths of your kids, and steals their legacy, that is grounds to kick their ass, and worse, much worse. In his response, Joss was funny, and played on irony, but despite all the cleverness, plainly put his foot in their greedy...lying asses, for all to see, at the same time. And that girl (the writer), BTW, is apart of this fraud, whether she planned to be, or not. If you ride to the bank with your boyfriend, and he pulls a gun and robs that bank, you are guilty by association. Now, if she is not responsible for that press-release, she can publicly distance herself, or go down with the ship, or sail with it, which-ever the case may be, but so far, she has said nothing, which means, like it, or not, she is no longer an innocent passenger in the car, she is an accessory to the crime, after the fact, and perhaps, helped plan that crime, in the first damn place?

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:43 p.m. CST

    HB_Dad

    by Wade Wilson

    You're an idiot.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:47 p.m. CST

    As Whedon thoroughly trashed HIS Buffy...

    by AnnoyYou

    ...perhaps a reboot might actually salvage something from the original character. Probably not, though, as this is such an obviously blatant attempt to cash in on Twilight mania. Too late! The kids have moved on from vampires - now it's dystopian futures where everyone gets killed in brutal ways but find love before their hideous deaths. HURL. Hm. Maybe this new Buffy will wake up in a future full of zombies and Jane Austen characters. Fun.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Gorgeous+pretty= PRETTY FUCKING STUPID

    by halowiscious

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:49 p.m. CST

    lol@luke Perry

    by halowiscious

    Just sayin'

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Brechtsky: He Doesn't Like The Politics

    by Media Messiah

    You can bet, the folks who created those characters are glad to see movement on them, as they will be in the same place, economically, as the creators of Superman and Batman, and their heirs, but if no one makes a film, well, they will get far less money. So far, none of them have objected to Joss bringing their characters to screen. Joss, however, was basically given the finger by WB who greenlit the reboot, and his ex-bosses who produced the original Buffy--and gave them the rights for said reboot,as well as developed it. If you use someone else's work, you have to show your respects to the creator, openly. If they had did that, Joss' response would have been much lighter in tone, and more accepting.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:51 p.m. CST

    The Buffy Reboot will be every bit as good as the Lost Boys Sequ

    by Jobacca

    That is to say,not at all good...not at all. But hey...maybe they can get the non-dead Cory to play Angel. Or better yet,use CGI to bring back the dead Cory!! There you go WB...that ones a freebie!

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:54 p.m. CST

    HB_Dad: Yes, We Know...But...

    by Media Messiah

    ...the producers, and the director screwed it up, and messed-up the tone of Joss' script, which was meant to be very sarcastic, and subversive. There has been bad blood between them and Joss ever since.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Charlaine Harris and Stephanie Meyer....

    by thecomedian

    Ripped Joss off and now because of the popularity of their pale imitations(pun intended) Buffy is getting double cannibalized. This will be interesting to see how this plays out. I really don't see how they're gonna do the girl falls for a vamp bit with a some fake assed Angel surrogate (which is all Edward Cullen and Bill Compton are, half assed versions at that). Most fans, even the teeny boppers are gonna be like " Who's this douche? Why didn't they just have her fall in love with Angel again?" Even if they cast a new Angel it will be less confusing then some brand new douchey vamp love interest.

  • Nov. 22, 2010, 11:58 p.m. CST

    Why not just jump 10 years?

    by vadakinX

    Forget the Season 8 comic...or don't. Jump 10 years and just have a story about Buffy in Peru or something, fighting a new vampire threat. Sarah Michelle Gellar isn't doing much these days so it shouldn't be too hard to get her back and you can do with without having to bring the entire cast back. <p> The series can serve as backstory but the film can be just about her. No need to reboot.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, midnight CST

    "Whedon's response is 100% class" ?? hell no.

    by KilliK

    what brechtsky said is correct:<br /> <p>labeling with a great dose of irony as a hack,someone who is a newcomer in the screenplay business and has given now the chance to showcase his first piece of work,a career situation where Whedon obviously passed through many years ago when he too started as a nobody in the business,well that is not an act of class at all.<br /> <p>besides if you take into account that Whedon was partly responsible for two mediocre Alien movies which killed the Alien franchise and for the notorious X-Men movie line: "do you know what happens to frogs,when lighting strikes them? the same thing to all the others",then the man should simply SHUT THE FUCK UP instead of judging other people's talent before even having the chance to show their work.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 12:39 a.m. CST

    This news isn't cool.

    by Doctor_Strangepork

    Only in Hollywood is re-imagining a more valuable commodity than imagining.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Are you guys idiots?

    by Bass Ackwards

    The Avengers line was a joke, irony, get it? He's not calling her a hack or climbing on a high horse. He's remarkably even keeled about the whole thing and light hearted, he expresses some disappointment, which, c'mon, that's fair, and that's about it. But I'm guessing those of you reacting just read the first line and jumped to the talkback to be bitches about it.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Yes, his response IS class...

    by Messiahman

    Whedon called nobody a hack (although he would've been right to do so, given that this is a neophyte scripter with no produced work whose only credits in the biz are a few roles as an extra). Rather, he made a few self-deprecating jokes and took the whole thing with good humor. Anyone claiming otherwise clearly lacks basic reading comprehension skills (and I won't mince words here - brechtsky and Killik, you're a couple of idiots).

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Bass Ackwards is correct...

    by Messiahman

    It never fails to amaze me how literal and simpleminded some people can be.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:04 a.m. CST

    Brechtsky, the AVENGERS thing was a joke...

    by Messiahman

    You're just too painfully dumb to get it.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:04 a.m. CST

    That people didn't get the Avengers joke

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    Is exactly why the Tea Party gained momentum. Just split off part of the country and rename it Dumbfuckinstan.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:13 a.m. CST

    KilliK: He Was Also Largely Responsible For...

    by Media Messiah

    ...Speed and Toy Story. As far as Aliens 4, he made a similar charge, as he did concerning the original Buffy movie, saying that the folks behind the scenes screwed him and the script (and that the director, a visualist, suddenly had a vision of the way the film should look and feel), and there is a history of Fox pulling that with Whedon, and that would include Buffy, The X-Men films, and The Fantasic Four. Does he share responsibiliy? Perhaps, but there are two sides to every story, however, the producers of the new Buffy reboot intentionally left Joss' name out of the press-release, and claimed full authorship and creation of the character, therein, which is an utter, and complete lie. Now, Joss can't sue to stop the movie, but he sure can sue over that press-release, which was full of falsehoods. Now, the question is, will he? I doubt it. He kicked them in the teeth with his response, enough said. <BR><BR>BTW, it is very easy for a director to screw something up. I was on the sets of some music videos lately, nothing big, mind you, but I've seen guys with all the technical tools, just mess something up, either on the set, or in the edit, or both, because they lack ability in directing, and or, writing, or even in editing, so...I get everything that Joss has said about his past experience. You can write something, or shoot it, and everything is good or great, or at least near great, and somebody comes along, trying to take credit, after the fact, and completely messes it up. In fact, I shot a video, and everything was going well, everyone was happy, including the talent, and the producer took the footage and gave it to his friend to edit, and refused to let me sit in for the edit, because he wanted to give a girl that he met on the set, and wanted to sleep with, more screen time. He was pissed that I got better footage of another girl--trust me, I had no idea he set his sights on the other girl, but the other chick I shot was real performer, the other, i got plenty of stuff on her too, and planned to feature everyone equally, but this guy wanted zero competion for the other girl. Well, as a result, he and his buddy completely screwed-up everything that I had planned and shot, the manner in which it was suppose to be edited in. The whole story and pacing was lost. The editor and the producer were both completely incomptent. Well, they loved their edit, but after i said I hated it, and other start to weigh in with the same review, then the blame got placed on me, conveniently, and again, after the fact. They refused to let me have my edit, so what do you do? BTW, this same thing happened to James Cameron on the set of Paranha II. Trust me, you mix money with desperate women and men, and you got trouble, as most people don't think straight--they are just thinking about getting some sex, or that cash--and what suffers ultimately is the art of what you are trying to do, as well as your business efforts. Yes, art and commerce can mix successfully, but you gotta stop chasing women, cause if you lose the money while chasing the women, you'll lose the women, guaranteed, every-time, but if you chase the money, women will chase you. You can't lose women while chasing money, as they say. Some people don't get that, and forget that this is show business, not just show!!!! The key word being business.<BR><BR>So, when you blame a writer for a bad movie, first try to get a look at the original shooting script, because you never know who fucked the movie up until you see that script. You can save, kill, or better a good movie in the edit, oor the onset execution, in respect to the directing, it all depends on who is calling the shots.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:16 a.m. CST

    Domi'sInnerChild And Messiahman

    by Media Messiah

    I got all of it as a sarcastic joke, but as for the other folks, I didn't want to spend the time to explain that, perhaps I should of, still my focus was on the other stuff.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:24 a.m. CST

    KINDA LIKE "THUNDERBALL"?

    by MARCEL_THE_NEGRO_PROJECTIONIST

    You know, the way Kevin McClory has the right to remake the Bond film Thunderball, with the James Bond character, as many times as he wants -- eg. Never Say Never Again -- the Kuzuis can remake Buffy all they want, but they can only use Buffy, right? I guess they can always bring the Paul Reubens character back. <p> I agree, however. Without Whedon, et al, it just won't be "Buffy".

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:31 a.m. CST

    BRECHTSKY - ever heard of something called "irony?"

    by MARCEL_THE_NEGRO_PROJECTIONIST

    Cause that was what Joss was using when he mentioned his "original" idea of the Avengers. Irony and self-deprecating tongue-in-cheekiness. When it comes to Joss, just remember two things: <p> 1) Joss is funny<p> 2) Joss is smarter than you & me put together

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:35 a.m. CST

    Margot Tenenbaum...true enough.....

    by Hint_of_Smegma

    Rice is certainly to blame as well. No getting away from that. But Whedon really carries the can as far as I'm concerned. He's the one who was intent on de-fanging the vampire genre completely and having it led around by it's undead dick by a mopey cheerleader with unconvincing martial arts skills. I don't know how Rice's books ended up, but I know what Whedon did and he's most definitely got a hand in the literary/cinematic neutering of the vampire genre. Plus, he's a smug twat who annoys me. So he's fair game for critique as far as I'm concerned.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 2 a.m. CST

    PS: Sorry For The Typos Above

    by Media Messiah

    I didn't have time to review everything I wrote, thanks to some interruptions on my end, and my computer sometimes drops letters as I am typing.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 2:05 a.m. CST

    ah joss......i fucking love that guy

    by kidkombo

    funny reading this, as im currently doing a buffy complete tv marathon viewing (currently at season 2 ep 20)...joss, i feel your pain brother. such a transparent cash grab and (ANOTHER) totally unnecessary reboot. i can only imagine seeing something that you poured your heart and soul into being exploited so tackily, must leave a sour taste in the mouth. but love your response, so sarcastic and tongue planted firmly in the cheek. oh, and to the makers of the new buffy film, just a quick bit of advice: SUNNYDALE VAMPIRES DONT FUCKIN SPARKLE.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 2:27 a.m. CST

    My Original Outline For A New Joss Produced Buffy TV Series

    by Media Messiah

    Here's my original outline for a new TV series sequel to the original Buffy TV show.<BR><BR>Ext--Opening establishing shot, new Sunnydale--Night.<BR><BR>Cut To 2 Story House<BR><BR>Establishing Shot. The camera descends from a high crane shot, toward the first story walkway...at the front of the house. <BR><BR>Cut To Int. Shot, Kitchen. <BR><BR>We see Buffy cooking-up an early evening dinner. Buffy is now a Mom, with a teenage daughter, roughly the age that she was when she became a slayer. We see them pictured in a framed photo on the wall. The doorbell rings. Turning-off the food, Buffy goes to the front door. To her horror, somethings never seem to change. A group of watchers stand at the door awaiting her. As she answers the door, they tell her the time has come. She dismisses them, and tells them to go away, but they tell her that either she can do it, or they will assign someone to do it for her. The men then leave. Buffy turns to look at yet another photo of her duaghter, which is seated on a table, just across the room. Suddenly, miles away, vampires show-up, at the high-school of Buffy's daughter, as she is leaving a late night study class. Instinctively, she slays them, just as her mother arrives. The young girl is completely stunned by her new found abilities...and by the creatures that just attacked her. Buffy then tells her, you are the slayer, and I am your watcher. Pullng out a pair of glasses, Buffy puts them on, quickly resembling a female version of Mr. Giles. Cue theme song. The new Buffy series...begins.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 2:27 a.m. CST

    JJ Abrams To direct!!

    by Fortunesfool

    Random fan to write screenplay. No Joss Whedon irony, wit and warmth. Excellent. Hope this happens then i'll have ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING REASON TO GO AND SEE IT.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 2:54 a.m. CST

    I was never a fan of Buffy

    by tomimt

    I did find Geller sexy, but besides that, I never really liked the series, so based on that I don't have anything against a reboot. But then again, I'm not very likely to be a fan of this new incarnation either.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 3:14 a.m. CST

    BrainDrain: Thank You

    by Media Messiah

    I think it would be the next logical step for Buffy, and in showing respect to the source material, while not diverting too far away from the feel of the original series. I'd love to see Sarah in the role, but if not, since this is a older Buffy, recasting would be fine, just as long as the actress who replaces her looks close enough to Sarah to pass as her, Buffy's, older self.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 3:29 a.m. CST

    I expected Whedon to behave lik a primadonna

    by David Cloverfield

    But that's a pretty cool, level headed reaction. Hollywood made him grow up a little.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 3:49 a.m. CST

    @ Jam Banjo why yes i have heard of irony...

    by asojax

    you ever Heard of sarcasm?

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 3:55 a.m. CST

    Wow

    by Visionary_Alliance

    Someone at Warner Bros just got the best blow job of their life!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 4:42 a.m. CST

    The date is not the only typo

    by TGC

    Press release (issued Nov. 22; the date is likely a typo): FOR IMMEDIATE TELEASE

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 4:51 a.m. CST

    A TWILIGHT-like BUFFY?

    by AsimovLives

    I can hear the eyes rolling.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 4:52 a.m. CST

    If Whedon is an hypocrite...

    by AsimovLives

    ... then Jar Jar Abrams invented hypocrisy.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 4:54 a.m. CST

    The X-Files is being rebooted!!!

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    And it won't involve Chris Carter, David Duchovny, or Gillian Anderson!!!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 4:56 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by AsimovLives

    If they are to recast Buffy, the last thing they should do was to hire a look-alike actress and have the new actress live inder Gellar's shadown, instead of being her own girl and do her own take on the role. Besides, Gellar is a natural brunette, she's not, naturally, the archetypical blonde cheerleader that Buffy is supposed to be. that's because she's an actress, and actors are supposed to transform for a role.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 4:59 a.m. CST

    This reboot is FAN FICTION

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    Her name is Whit, but she has none.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 5:09 a.m. CST

    Nice slam on the title for Nolan's forthcoming Bats film

    by Monkey_King

    Uninspired title indeed.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 5:12 a.m. CST

    It doesn't matter what Nolan calls the next Batman

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    When you buy a ticket to go see it, you'll say, "one adult for Batman please".

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 5:31 a.m. CST

    Whedon if a fucking hack

    by MustGoFaster

    There were plenty of other people involved that made Buffy a hit. His Alien Resurrection script sucked balls, his lines in X Men sucked balls. And he ended his press release with a cheap shot at the title Dark Knight Rises. Why didn't he take a shot Avatar or Transformers? Because he's a dickless pussy fearful of the likes of Cameron and Bay - he doesn't want to upset anyone who he knows can give him a verbal ass fucking (and has the power to fuck his career up). He is a POS masturbatory stain.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 5:56 a.m. CST

    Thanks, MustGoFaster...

    by kells

    ...for helping to prove that online chat forums are contributing to the collective ignorance of American society and providing firm support for the contention that the democratization of people's opinions through electronic media only reveals how ass-stupid most of us are. You're an inspiration. Really.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 6:02 a.m. CST

    people still use ticket booths?

    by Bouncy X

    i always use the debit machine myself and theres' never anyone waiting in line at the desk either, i feel bad for those people standing there. :P

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 6:06 a.m. CST

    Yeah, showing my age there, Bouncy X!

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    Hey, maybe I should write a reboot, I loved Giles when I was the same age as the character!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 6:20 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives: I Am Just Talking About A Passing Resemblance

    by Media Messiah

    There is a girl I once knew, well, when she was 16, but now, some years have past. I just saw some video of her which was taken recently, and if I had seen her in public, on a nice sunny day, I could have walked by her on the street, numerous times, and not recognized her, not once. Only her name, eyes, and some facial features are the same. Women have a way of changing like that. Back to my point about casting the show, should Sarah refuse said role. I'm talking about the difference between how Buffy looked on the original show, as compared to the actress who played her mother. If Buffy has a 16 year old daughter now, I'd imagine Buffy to be about 36, to 39, and look for an actress...in that age range. I would also bring back the actors who played Spike and Angel for guest roles, as they could be used to point-out the differences of how they are slowly aging, but Buffy is 20 to 23 years older than before, and aging much faster than them, as she is mortal. It would be interesting to reverse the May/December relationships between her and Angel, and even Spike, or the Immortal. Before she was the youth half of those relationships, and now, she is the older woman, in appearance, at least--as she is now acougar to them. Well, it will take some nice effects to accomplish that, clever camera angles, the use of shadows, as well as some make-up effects-- for the other actors, to make them appear a little more youthful, but it would more than work. Such would be an intersting dynamic for Buffy to face getting older, as her ex-lovers fail to age, and her, and them, dealing with the pain over it. It would be a nice story-arc.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 6:31 a.m. CST

    Amended--AsimovLives: I Am Just Talking About A Passing Resembla

    by Media Messiah

    There is a girl I once knew, well, when she was 16, but now, some years have past. I just saw some video of her which was taken recently, and if I had seen her in public, on a nice sunny day, I could have walked by her on the street, numerous times, and not recognized her, not once. Only her name, eyes, and some facial features are the same. Women have a way of changing like that. Back to my point about casting the show, should Sarah refuse said role. I'm talking about the difference between how Buffy looked on the original show, as compared to the actress who played her mother. If Buffy has a 16 year old daughter now, I'd imagine Buffy to be about 36, to 39, and look for an actress...in that age range. I would also bring back the actors who played Spike and Angel for guest roles, as they could be used to point-out the differences of how they are slowly aging, but Buffy is 20 to 23 years older than before, and aging much faster than them, as she is mortal. It would be interesting to reverse the May/December relationships between her and Angel, and even Spike, or the Immortal. Before she was the youthful half of those relationships, and now, she is the older woman, in appearance, at least--as she is now a cougar to them. Well, it will take some nice effects to accomplish that, clever camera angles, the use of shadows, as well as some make-up effects-- for the other actors, to make them appear a little more youthful, but it would more than work. Such would be an intersting dynamic for Buffy to face getting older, as her ex-lovers fail to age, and her, and them, dealing with the pain over it. It would be a nice story-arc.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 6:35 a.m. CST

    Just Reading the First Line of Joss' Reaction

    by Aquatarkusman

    Makes me want to kick him down a flight of stairs.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 6:39 a.m. CST

    Joss' reaction is genius

    by theGoldbergV

    especially the bit about Whit Stillman and Wes Anderson. It made me LOL in the office. Now people are looking at me like I'm weird, but I'm telling myself they're just jealous because I have better taste than they do and get the joke

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 6:45 a.m. CST

    Ann Coulter as Buffy! Herc would love it.

    by fanboy71

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Buffy the Twilight Slayer.....

    by Zardozap2005

    Now that would be interesting. But as far as unecessary reboots go, this is the single worst. Zero interest afaic.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 6:54 a.m. CST

    kells...

    by MustGoFaster

    The truth hurts doesn't it, you miserable Whedonite. This is a man who had TWO shots at making Firefly/Serenity a hit and blew them both. What fucking right does he have at taking a slam at Dark Knight Rises? I don't care if he was being tongue-in-cheek, that ginger nut should keep his fucking mouth shut in a press release that has nothing whatsoever do to with Batman. Your hero is a pussy fart. Deal with it.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Oh and Joss' reaction was hilarious.

    by Zardozap2005

    The haters are gonna hate, no matter what. And anyone whining about his DKR comments sound like utter babies. Whaaa! Whaaa! Nit a tit babies?

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 7:09 a.m. CST

    He's not slamming Dark Knight

    by theGoldbergV

    in fact, he's not slamming ANYONE, even the Kuzais (and God knows he's got reason to have a go at them). All the haters perfectly illustrate why Whedon's work is niche, because he writes something and most of you just DON'T GET IT

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 7:13 a.m. CST

    All you Whedon lovers will hate this but...

    by MurderMostFowl

    The original movie was not so far off from the TV series, I mean come on... it's all bmovie material.. even the TV series is so filled with camp, it's a wonder the action sequences didn't have POWs and ZAPs on screen.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 7:22 a.m. CST

    If somebody told me Roven does not who Willow Rosenberg is, I be

    by jwhj2007

    What?

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 7:24 a.m. CST

    asojax - Riiiiiight

    by Jam Banjo

    You were being sarcastic with your poor choice of sentence structure and grammar... you know, to make a point. Hmm, sure. Clinging on hard to that high horse aren't you?

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Buffy the Vampir....oh forget it we're just cashing it on Twilig

    by knowthyself

    Just admit it.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by AsimovLives

    A cougar Buffy is not a bad idea. The problem is that you would also need to recast Spike and Angel, because the actors who played those roles have also aged noticably. but overall it's not a bad idea. In fact, that was used in a British Tv show BEING HUMAN, when the ageless vampyre character meeds an old flame from the 60s, who's now a late 50s woman. It was a great episode. Well, all episodes from BEING HUMAN are great.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Well done...

    by I AM ROCKO

    ...ostracize fans of the TV show Buffy with the “reboot”. The rest of the general population will not care as the vampire fad is drawing to a close and the Twilight series is the only thing that made big bucks anyhow. Well done seriously, what a great idea...

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 8:15 a.m. CST

    As for he Josh Whedon's email reply...

    by AsimovLives

    ... guys, get a fucking sense of humour! I'm one of the major nolan groupies in here, and i found Whedon's joke on the title of the new Batman movie very funny. And his email is filled to the grills with self-deprecating humour. In fact, all the jokes are at his own expense. How fucking hard is this to understand? Jesus, you anti-Whedonite,s get a sens eof humour. i guess sarcasm and irony ar enot too popular wys to present humour among the american movie geekry? Small wonder you guys suck the dick of Jar Jar Abrams so hard!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 8:16 a.m. CST

    I'm not an Whedonite...

    by AsimovLives

    ... but i'd rathe rbe one then being one of those pathetic mutants that suck Jar Jar Abrams's dick.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Why would Whedon be involved? REALLY???

    by SpuffyFan

    Why would Whedon be involved? by Cinemanimetal---0k dufus Why? Moron because Joss is the CREATOR! If you don't know the story don't comment, you just sound inane.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 8:20 a.m. CST

    MurderMostFowl

    by AsimovLives

    And yet that campy show had such episodes as HUSH and THE BODY, two of the most inventive things ever produced in american TV.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Because everybody loves Vampire EMO SHIT

    by SpazMatic1074

    Nothing else to cash in on besides Vampire Crap. Might as well reboot old Vampire Crap, even though just about every crap Vampire story is the fucken same.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 8:20 a.m. CST

    this is going to ...

    by Judge Briggs

    BOMMMMMMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB hard.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 8:38 a.m. CST

    All of you idiots that didn't get the humor of

    by MAD_MIKE

    Whedons response, need to hold your hand to the top of your head so that next time it falls in instead of going over your heads. <P> Morons <P> Whedon should sue, just because its the American way.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 8:56 a.m. CST

    fuck hollywood and fuck big studios

    by yabory

    they should give buffy back to joss. how can a studio that did so well rebooting batman with so much talent then decide to do this without all any talent????

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 9:01 a.m. CST

    LOL@no talent

    by chainsaw_shawn

    they, or someone in the offices want that twilight vampire money. or a slice of it. But vampires been getting corny. The best vampire shit i liked was the blade trilogy. Twilight is ruining the whole idea of it. Vampires glitter in sunlight. yeah, ok! They trying to be cost effective hiring scrubs that dont know what to do. so they wont have to pay them shit.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 9:03 a.m. CST

    did the "whedon fans" save Serenity or Firefly?????

    by DioxholsterImperium

    no. exactly. nuff said. FUCK OFF!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Ugh

    by Wookie_1995

    wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Buffy Begins and ends on the first day of shooting

    by shutupfanboy

    This is worse then the holocaust or at least the next holocaust movie with Brits instead of Jews and Germans being involved. As a Buffy fan, I think making Buffy into a dark character is about as retarded as letting two retards fuck without condoms. I think it will make money due to the fact that WB will nickle and dime this thing to the point, it will be exactly like the movie. So, a few thousand people who have nothing better to do will go see it and idiots will buy for their "Buffy" friends on DVD for Birthdays or Christmas.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Will not watch without Whedon

    by kbarber29

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 9:39 a.m. CST

    AGRRED KBARBER29

    by chainsaw_shawn

    Her is what made buffy so fun all those years ago. It would have just died without his input.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    There could be worse ideas

    by moviemaniac-7

    Not much, but there could. Whedon-less Buffy is not a Buffy I'd like to watch. No one of the series is involved. As the article indicates, this is nothing more than a cheap cash-in after the Twilight disasters. Not watching this.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Uwe Boll should direct

    by DioxholsterImperium

    i would watch. the epic massacre.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST

    As a fan of the Buffy series...

    by JustUsNerdsHere

    and good ideas in general, I would like to extend big fuck you to Warner Bros...

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Dammit!

    by JustUsNerdsHere

    Why didn't I think to rip off someone else's idea and turn it into Twilight?!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Just Wrong

    by Larry Jay

    On SO many levels.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Way to completely alienate your target audience, WB!

    by SpyGuy

    Piss off the one guy that internet geeks worldwide bow down and worship. If the BUFFY TV cast was in their sixties and seventies (or dead) like the original STAR TREK, that would be one thing, but just a decade over the TV show ended? Are you people INSANE?

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by Larry Jay

    Thanks for the education and the view from the tip of the spear.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 10:29 a.m. CST

    It might be good.. there is predecence for this...

    by houbou

    You know.. as much as I'm a Joss Whedon fan (Firefly was the best!), I'm going to reserve judgement on this when I see the movie. Why? because I also thought that Daniel Craig couldn't pull off James Bond and he did an amazing job of it. I also thought that Christian Bale couldn't pull off Batman/Bruce Wayne and he did just as great. So, who knows? the new writer is a huge buffy fan, maybe she will do the character justice and hopefully, with the right lead and cast, maybe the movie will be good.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Wow, Whedon sounds a bit angry.

    by Yelsaeb

    I would be too. I'm sure this reboot will suck.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 10:45 a.m. CST

    whedon - SO overated

    by OandA

    he sucks and no one cares.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Whit the fuck?

    by Brody77

    Yes, I played my Scottish slang card there for a cheap gag. I think I can get away with it, because, seriously, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK? Makes a change from Fox fucking over Whedon I suppose....

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Concept Theft......

    by OldDickLemon

    $10 says this film is set in a world where vampires are an accepted part of society, and the "new" Buffy is a dark, gritty vigilante type assassin who takes out the vampires the system misses. She'll be torn between her Watcher, a former high school science teacher stricken with cancer and his young, reckless vampire protege. This project sounds like a sticky, aborted fetus, but the idea suggested above with Sarah Hyland (hot sister from Modern Family) as the new Buffy is quite inspired.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Oh For Fucks Sake!!!!

    by BookhouseBoy

    That is all...

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Reboot Green Lantern first jackasses!!!

    by DioxholsterImperium

    fix your shit first!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Shit movie becomes shit series

    by ObiBen

    becomes shit movie. The cycle is now complete.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:10 a.m. CST

    I AM AN INTERNET GEEK AND I DO NOT BOW TO JOSS WHEDON

    by Darth Busey

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Fran and Kaz Kuzui are SCUM

    by crankyoldguy

    I'd love to see that on protest signs ....at Comic-Con when the idiots attempt to promote it. And Whedon, overrated? No. The bullshit of "Lost was overrated. 30 Rock being funny is overrated. And I could go on. Feh.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    DOES NOT RIPPING OFF THE IDEAS, BUT THE CHARACTERS, MAKE IT ANY

    by Darth Busey

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    BETTER?

    by Darth Busey

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    JOSS, ASK STAN LEE IF HE GIVES A SHIT. SO LONG AS THE CHECK CLE

    by Darth Busey

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Stargate Universe got those big God aliens tonight

    by DioxholsterImperium

    That magic planet mystery thing.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Avengers was a comic, movie is adaptation fuckers

    by DioxholsterImperium

    here they arent adapting it from a comic

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:15 a.m. CST

    What's it about?...Jew broad, kills Draculas.

    by AzulTool

    Thank you Artie Lange.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Whedon sounds like a cry baby. Grow up.

    by chadiwack

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:18 a.m. CST

    MEDIA IS MEDIA.

    by Darth Busey

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:19 a.m. CST

    HE CREATED SOMETHING, SOLD THE RIGHTS, GOT PAID, GET OVER IT.

    by Darth Busey

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST

    NO GELLAR

    by MegaBeth

    NO PEACE! Keepin' it real mutha truckas!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    DioxholsterImperium

    by oisin5199

    no sir, you fuck off! There wouldn't have been a Serenity film at all if it wasn't for the fans. How often does a tv show cancelled after less than a season get made into a big budget movie? Never. The fact that it got made at all was pretty damn near a miracle. The fact that many critics thought it was comparable to the original Star Wars in its quality even more so.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    And anyone who thinks Buffy caused Twilight

    by Messiahman

    Is a complete fucking moron with absolutely no understanding of the show or the horror genre.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Actually, Whedon doesn't sound like a crybaby at all

    by oisin5199

    this is classic Joss, joking about something that's obviously distressing, but still being fair and diplomatic about it. I just hope this movie doesn't ever see the light of day. Rip off Buffy all you want, but don't call it Buffy.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Christina Ricci IS NuBuffy!

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Could work, maybe...

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Chloë Sevigny IS NuBuffy!

    by WriteForTheEdit

    It's "dark." And "gritty." That's what the kids want these days, right? Vincent Gallo for a cameo.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Hint_of_Smegma

    by oisin5199

    you do know that the original Dracula novel was a love story between a vampire and a human woman, right? That vampire stories since the 19th century have always had an element of romance and sex. You're kind of an idiot if you think Buffy made that happen. And once again, Buffy had nothing to do with Twilight. If anything, the Twilight people completely missed the point, taking one element from the show, which wasn't even a major one and emphasized it above all others. You say you've seen the show, but she doesn't wind up with either of her vampire lovers at the end of the show. She has to kill them, and more than once. This wasn't a romance story. Things go horribly wrong. And she constantly has to fight. If you don't get that, you completely don't get the show. And I'm amazed at how stupid some talkbackers are here. "Was Joss serious?" um, let's see....

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Rachel Nichols IS NuBuffy

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Just cuz she's so freakin' hot.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Whedon can't complain more cause he'd be a hypocrite

    by slder78

    I'm sure the guys who wrote "Alien" were fucking THRILLED that the guy who wrote Buffy the Vampire Slayer took over scripting duties for Alien Resurrection. And yeah Joss you helming Avengers came after much soul searching about taking over from such classic literature.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Kristen Stewart IS NuBuffy!

    by WriteForTheEdit

    Some dark, dark part of me really wants to see them try and pull that off.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Hollywood Executive Rule:

    by impossibledreamers

    If it makes money, who cares about writer's plot, story or character. If it didn't make money, it's writer's fault - not ours for making a stupid idea in the first place. Remember the suits overrule all common sense, decency and ethics, even if no one watches what they make.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:44 a.m. CST

    @oisin5199 um okay. Dollhouse:Fail. Serenity:Fail.

    by chadiwack

    Lets keep it real... Joss doesn't have the greatest track record for success.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST

    huh?

    by oisin5199

    how is someone joining a franchise as a writer, or adapting a comic book to film (things that happen all the time) in any way comparable to having an original character "rebooted" without that original creator's involvement while that creator is still writing original stories about that character? In what universe would it be hypocritical to complain about that? To me, this is tantamount to what happened to Siegel and Shuster when they got paid shit for the rights to Superman and completely screwed after that. In other words, Joss is taking the high road. He has no legal basis to fight things, so complaining more wouldn't be hypocritical, but he knows it would be counter-productive.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:48 a.m. CST

    So, does someone hate this Whit chick?

    by impossibledreamers

    Why else aim a bunch of angry fans at her?

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST

    success?

    by oisin5199

    I think having your television shows typically on critics' top 10 lists is pretty successful. For instance, Buffy was listed as the 2nd best television show of all time for Empire Magazine. His shows are cult hits, to be sure. But there's no 'Fail' involved here. Now go back to your X-Box and bubble gum and let the adults talk.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Hit Girl for Buffy

    by mortsleam

    It would be so meta, seeing as she played a vampire, and now she would be killing vampires.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Oisin5199

    by slder78

    You said it yourself, he signed away hid rights to make Buffy movies it happens all the time. And make no mistake Whedon TRIED to reboot Alien. Uh, Ripley clone anyone? So don't try to play off the idea that he hasn't tried to do the same. Alien 3 was supposed to end the franchise. But hey throw some cash Whedon's way and he'll clone Ripley and produce the stupid ass hybrid and revitalize the franchise.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST

    okay oisin5199 you have a hard on for Whedon.

    by chadiwack

    I get that. But seriously.... Buffy was the 2nd best show of ALL TIME!!!! you're deluded. What a cock.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Exactly slder78... totally agree.

    by chadiwack

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Wow. Now Buffy might actually be good!

    by bat725

    Whedon sucks. Seriously.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 12:10 p.m. CST

    to prove oisin5199 has a Whedon hard on check this.

    by chadiwack

    http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/42923#comment_2972941

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Easily the stupidest idea I've heard in a long time

    by Laserhead

    And I'm not even a fan of Buffy! But if anybody's ever been a fan, it's because of Whedon. What a moronic move.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:03 p.m. CST

    wtf is wrong wit most of you?

    by wtfuckers

    do you realize writin a sequel to a movie franchise is not the same as havin a nonwriter reboot a movie turned tv show into another movie? also adapting a piece of fiction is different from rebootin a movie turned tv show... sure Joss worked on stuff he didnt create, but he expands on the projects he works on (whereas Bhitch Anderson is just rebootin/hackin)... if Joss rebooted Alias into a movie without JJs approval, sure, he would be a hypocrite... but no, he does sequels/adaptations... theres no similarity between him and Bhitch... hell, he might even have a better actin career than her studio exec fellatin ass... fuck you Bhitch!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:11 p.m. CST

    If they make her the Anti Bella, I could watch it.

    by David Cloverfield

    Can imagine a trailer. Edward like emo vampire seduces her with terrible melodrama. She's bored, so she suddenly stabs him in the face with a stake. Record scratch. Music changes. Montage of the psycohic little cheerleader murdering vamps and creatures, accompanied by terrible Buffy puns. The word BUFFY appears. Audience cheers.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST

    The first mpvie sucked

    by jwardlow

    -no pun intended- Was so bad that I didn't even watch the series until catching it accidentally sometime in season 4. It rocked! Going back and watching the movie now though -- still painful. That said, have no interest in a Whedonless Buffy. Good luck, new guys... but I won't be watching.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Well, most reboots don't throw the original under the bus.

    by shutupfanboy

    Star Trek got Nimoy and stated outright, it wasn't going to erase the continuity which was a giant plus. Doctor Who kept the Tardis the same as well as all the Doctors. BSG hired some of the original actors to come on in lead roles. V is getting Diana back due to how bad the first season was. Batman was so dead and buried that it needed a reboot. Superman Returns was a sequel then anything to the films. Smallville even got Christopher Revees, Margo Kidder and other Sup vets to support the work. If you alienate the fans early its all down hill from there. This probably the worst step you can take in a reboot. I see more hate then patience with this when it comes to the fans.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST

    HEY HERC - HOW'S ABOUT A PALIN UPDATE?

    by BringingSexyBack

    "Sarah Palin's Alaska" set a TLC ratings record when it debuted to 5 million viewers last week, but the second episode showed a huge drop-off in viewership. <p> Episode two of the Palin reality show averaged just 3 million viewers, down 40% from the previous week. <p> Perhaps more troubling are the viewer demographics. The show averaged just 885,000 viewers in the advertiser-friendly 18-49 demo, and the median age of the show's viewer is a whopping 57 years old. According to The Live Feed's James Hibberd, that's 15 years older than TLC's median age of 42." <p> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/23/sarah-palins-alaska-ratings_n_787454.html

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 1:55 p.m. CST

    what no Zooey Deschanel for Buffy, BSB?

    by DioxholsterImperium

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 2:12 p.m. CST

    wasnt there an idea

    by emeraldboy

    to have a buffy on the warpath movie. the idea was that buffy was retired and had a daughter. daughter dies. buffy goes out for revenge against the demon who killed her daughet. smg has no career. they will have to recast the role.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Snuff the Buff, Let's see a remake of Blade.

    by Stalkeye

    A cooler Vampire Slayer!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    er Star Trek did erase the continuity

    by KilliK

    it's the same timeline,the existence of Spock Prime is the proof of that since it connects the old time-line with the new one.The writers and direct might insist that this is not the case,but their movie clearly shows the opposite.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST

    and what about the SM and HULK reboots?

    by KilliK

    hell,in the HULK case they changed the lead three times ffs.at least they had Ferigno in both movies and the series.hehe.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 3:03 p.m. CST

    BLADE REBOOT?@STALKEYE

    by chainsaw_shawn

    WTF wesley snipes is still alive and still in good shape. They need a BLADE 4 with a great script from Del Toro and Goyer. Something that will kick ass. and no nightstalkers. I would like to see blade included into the marvel universe on a larger scale. such as the avengers come calling. It would be cool to see blade accepting he's a superhero not just a vampire slayer.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Star Trek continuity is safe.

    by shutupfanboy

    In the movie Spock states that this is an alternate reality from the one Spock Prime came from. The destruction of the sun and the injection of red matter created a doorway into the past of an alternate reality. The continuity is safe so say the fans, actors and the creators which is good enough for me.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Darth Busey

    by AsimovLives

    Maybe you bow down to Jar Jar Abrams instead.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 3:14 p.m. CST

    shutupfanboy

    by AsimovLives

    You bought that shit too, hem? What happened to the "this is not your daddy's Star Trek", hem? What happened to that boisterousness? What happened to that "damn the torpedoes" attitude? Of cours,e they realised they made a bad movie that was a complete reinvention of Star Trek and at the last minute pulled the "but the original still stands, nothing really changed, tust us" stunt to cover their asses from rightful criticism. Well, some of us didn't fell for such an obvious dammage control trick. All that "the original Star Trek still exists somewhere" is nothing said in the movie, it's just what the writers told in interviews and comic-coms. Classic case of dammage control after the fact.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Asimov's nerd rage over JJ is now cute.

    by shutupfanboy

    I am sorry you didn't understand the words coming out of the characters mouths in the movie when it was stated it was an alternate reality. Maybe instead of bitching about movies, you should pay attention to the movies.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Dan O'Bannon is laughing in hell at this

    by BarryConvex

    Karma's a bitch, Whedon

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives hates Jar Jar Abrams because...

    by DioxholsterImperium

    he stole his "LOST" idea.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Whedon can't moan after he was offered it and said no.

    by chadiwack

    The good news: Apparently the new Buffy producers did reach out to Whedon after all. Whedon tells EW: “I believe [the producers] did ultimately reach out to my agent after the news broke.” The bad news: Whedon wants no involvement. Whedon says, “I think that’s something better left untouched by me. So, I wish them luck.”

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST

    @barryconvex why?

    by chainsaw_shawn

    But who said the new buffy, would make any money. the reason why buffy succeeded was because of joss whedon and that's final. they had the first buffy movie with kristy swanson and it failed miserably!!!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Two words: Alien Resurrection

    by BarryConvex

    Need I say more?

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Wtfuckers

    by slder78

    So you're saying that if they cast Sarah Michelle Geller as Buffy, you'd be cool with that? Nothing pisses me off more than a bunch of people who view works of fiction inviolate. "Only Shatner should play Kirk. Ever!" "Remake (insert cult classic here) blasphemy!" Breaking news Joss, you're a WGA member, if you want to blame anyone for losing control of Buffy, blame your fucking union for giving up the copyright to all intellectual work to the studios. As for the rest of you Whedonites, grow the fuck up. It's business, you don't like the idea, don't watch it. Not like there were that many of you watching his shows to begin with.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 4:20 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives: Thank You

    by Media Messiah

    Being Human? I don't know that show, but it sounds great. I have to catch it, perhaps via the internet.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 4:24 p.m. CST

    HailDaHypnoToad: Thank You

    by Media Messiah

    You are very eloquent.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST

    What Kind Of Guy Gets Homotional Over Buffy?

    by EmmaWatsonsWeirdAss

    The only reason why the manboys watched the series is because is was a precursor to internet anime.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Well this has bad fucking news...

    by GE

    written ALL over it.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 5:10 p.m. CST

    WTF?@barryconvex

    by chainsaw_shawn

    ...That's it? one freaking movie! He wasnt the only writer if memory serves me correctly. and the movie Alien Ressurection wasnt even that bad.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 5:12 p.m. CST

    TITS

    by GetMeAn18ManFireTeamIn12Hours

    OR GTFO.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST

    shutupfanboy if that's the deal,then WTF Spock Prime tries

    by KilliK

    his best to save this alternate timeline ? does he do that for all the alternate time-lines when they are endangered? it looks like a major plothole to me than anything else.<br />

  • product of Nero's actions,then is Spock Prime not committing a direct violation of the Prime Directive,since he is meddling with the affairs of another universe/timeline? again it looks like another plothole to me.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Awful

    by Potch

    Point of view from a rabid Whedon fan who is also a Twilight fan (that's right I love both). BAD IDEA. Whedon fans will riot. Twilight fans will NOT jump on it like people think. If they were Buffy fans pre-Twilight, they will hate this on principal because of the lack of Joss. Twilight fans who AREN'T already Buffy fans won't like it because... they're not Buffy fans. This whole... cashing in on the tween vampire thing... not going to work.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Reboot dur Stargate Movie derp

    by JohnWayneWasGay

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST

    KilliK

    by DrMorbius

    How does STIV:TVH and ST:FC fit in, using your 'logic'?

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 6:07 p.m. CST

    DrMorbius THAT'S MY FRIGGIN POINT !!

    by KilliK

    because it IS their own timeline that they are trying to protect in those two movies.Spock Prime is doing exactly the same thing in Nu Trek that he was doing in those two TOS movies.see there? you answered it by yourself.<br /> <br /> <p>Nu Trek's timeline IN the movie's story is the original timeline, people.If the creators of NuTrek insist that it is an alternate timeline and not the original one,either they are full of shit or the movie's story that they made is even more retarded than it looks.<br /> <br /> <p>come on guys,you are free to love NuTrek as much as you want,but only morons would not see that the events in the movie's story happen in the original timeline which they twist and not in an alternate virgin one.come on now.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 6:09 p.m. CST

    in those two TOS movies = in those two TOS/TNG

    by KilliK

    movies protecting his OWN timeline,not an alternate one.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Fact of the matter is...

    by BarryConvex

    Whedon shouldn't even comment on the matter. He's done the same thing to other people's creations, so he's a hypocrite for even muttering a word. He should be lucky that he even has a career, considering the fact that Buffy is his only body of work that has actually been successful. I keep wondering why studios keep pumping money into his tv shows, knowing full well they won't last a season.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Blame Sarah Michelle Gellar

    by Neo Zeed

    Joss said that it was up to Sarah Michelle Gellar. There was more than enough time to get a true Buffy movie of the ground, but she didn't want to do it. Instead she chose to do a bunch of shitty j-horror remakes, a scooby-doo sequel and shitty Southland Tales. Her imdb resume reads like a train wreck. Hey, who knows? Maybe Gellar thought she could pull out the Buffy movie card after a few more crappy flicks. Of course now that's not going to happen. She should have called Joss a year ago once rumblings of this remake nonsense surfaced. Gellar blew it big time. Now she has to audition for a bunch of TV pilots while some younger hotter chick shits on her franchise with a twilight-esque cash grab.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 7:47 p.m. CST

    BrainDrain please re-read my last post.

    by KilliK

    then you will understand why you are proving my point with what you just said.oh and in case you forgot: the dispute is about whether the timeline in Nu Trek is an alternate original one or the original TOS one altered by the actions of Nero thus making all the events and characters from the old movies and tvseries irrelevant.guess which side you just defended...

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Hired Hand, 'Nuff said

    by Sergio Fish

    Joss was hired and paid for his job, the fact someone asks for his opinion should be enough of praise. But no, he even makes fun of this fan hired to pen the script, what a deusche. Is he going to bitch about Toy Story 3 too since he practically takes credit every chance he get as if he even created Pixar itself? This guy is loved by fans? Wow. I hope he bitches to Ridley Scott for ruining his Alien Resurection masterpiece with that rumored prequel. ;)

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Joss Whedon and Prime Directive...

    by chainsaw_shawn

    Well Joss may be a hypocrite but lets be real his version of buffy trumped the shitbag that was the original movie... That's due to his writing. Which is his strong suit. But also in hollywood who hasnt stolen someone else's idea???lmao. Also in star trek, there's been many violations of the primie directive but the one majority they all share in common is that they have fixed it... More or less. Spock has failed but who knows, the eradication of Vulcan may not have changed much. it could have altered the timeline substantially, that the Klingons go to war with earth without their major ally there. Maybe the attack on the klingon fleet would be taken as an act or war and the romulans would be a major target. Who knows. Maybe picard would not be stabbed in his chest and needed that surgery.

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:07 p.m. CST

    I Vow to make Warner Bros. Waste their money making this film

    by Gremlin517

    What do you all say are you with me? I am making a vow, here and now that not one bit of my hard earned money will go toward this movie. I will not go see it at the theatre, won't go see it on video and will not buy any tie in merchandise! Who's with me? This was a bad, disrespectful decision against one of the biggest talents in movie and television of this generation and I for one want to make sure that Warner realizes monetarily that I simply do not agree with their decision and I will endeavour to make sure my friends also do the same!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Sergio Fish: Well, Thanks To The Writers' Guild...

    by Media Messiah

    ...Joss was stripped of his credit for Toy Story, due to standing legal language within the union rules...pertaining to contracted work for hire...for its members, rules which the Guild strictly enforces amongst those members, that is, if there is more than one writer on a project. Joss got messed-over on Toy Story, as a result, although he is directly responsible for reshaping the script, and wrote much of that very script...of which critics have praised. The credited writer could have allowed Joss his proper credit, but decided not to, for business reasons. He once told Joss that he would do the same, if the tables were reversed. Joss considered his comments, and then referenced past incidents where he rewrote a script, and gave others credits, sometimes where they didn't deserve them, and others, when they did. So Joss, answering the other writer's statement, said that he wouldn't do what the guy did, the gentleman who got final screen credit, and bragging rights, for writing the film. Knowing that fact, one which is undisputed, I fully understand Joss, and him proudly taking credit, where credit is due, and whenever he can for Toy Story, because his efforts helped to make Pixar what it is today! Bravo to him!!!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:13 p.m. CST

    I think somebody who is good at doing those...

    by Gremlin517

    Sign up thingies should start a "Let's make Warner Brothers waste their money on Buffy" campaign and get thousands upon thousands of people to sign it and pledge to save their hard earned money--I really like that idea! Somebody should run with it! Xavier--of Seattle Art fame! Check out my artwork here! http://xavierlopezjr.blogspot.com/

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Let's make Warner Waste it's money on Buffy!

    by Gremlin517

    Let's make Warner Waste it's money on Buffy! Let's make Warner Waste it's money on Buffy! Let's make Warner Waste it's money on Buffy! Let's make Warner Waste it's money on Buffy! Let's make Warner Waste it's money on Buffy! Let's make Warner Waste it's money on Buffy! There, it's imprinted on your brain, now pass it on!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:23 p.m. CST

    I agree with the Boycott

    by Scoob1978

    I'm boycotting this and the new Crow. FUCK THAT SHIT!

  • Nov. 23, 2010, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by Sergio Fish

    True, but we don't see a single Monthy Python member claiming to be the sole creative mind behind the show. It is annoying to have people complain about a creation they were paid for being used for something without approval. Sad to say his solo projects have been cancelled, maybe he should welcome the help.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Kristen Bell

    by Shan

    If they get Kristen Bell for the part of Buffy, I will consider it.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 1:33 a.m. CST

    Sergio Fish: You You Created Something, It Is Your Baby

    by Media Messiah

    If it was easy for just anyone to create something that is deemed of great value to the masses, then everyone in the world would be doing it. The studios can just cut-out the middlemen writers, and the execs can just write the scripts themselves--but they can't, so they don't--they just don't have the talent, at least, most of them, anyway. The entertainment industry has preyed on people who have the big ideas, the vision...for cutting edge invention--or the vision to improve pre-existing inventions, and that happens in all industries. You create the idea, and successfully execute it, turning it into a workable/sellable item, and somebody else takes most, if not all, of the profit, and most, if not all, of the credit--simply because they monopolize distribution routes in a certain business field. Monopolies are suppose to be illegal, are they not? What happened to the freedom of liberty, and commerce? Well, so much for that, true democracy and capitalism, on an even playing-field, does not exist, therefore the courts and unions have provided recourse for those of us who may be taken advantage of, and crushed by the system, while on the course to pursuing our constitutionally guaranteed rights to liberty, capitalism, and justice! There is a word for someone who takes another's work, profits from it, and does not fairly compensate them, and or, steals the the credit, and it is called theft. It can also be called...good 'ol fashioned slavery.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 1:50 a.m. CST

    400th!

    by Hercules

    Willow, I need service!

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 2:03 a.m. CST

    The screenplay for the Buffy film...

    by pollaxt

    Pretty much taught all of the Pixar guys about story structure and how to write a screenplay. <br> <br> True story.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 2:20 a.m. CST

    Pollaxt

    by Sergio Fish

    Sure, and while we're at it all of literature should be measured as follows BJ - Before Joss AW - After Whatever.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST

    The 'new' Star Trek generated no emotion out of me...

    by Toruk_Makto

    I couldn't even get annoyed. I downloaded it, watched it, laughed, than promptly deleted it from my hard-drive and mind forever.<p> As for this reboot, reeeeeeeebooooooooot, I like saying that. <p>As for this business, the Buffster sans the whedonverse? With Willow being my favorite character I can't imagine committing any bandwidth toward this venture.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 2:35 a.m. CST

    Messiah

    by Sergio Fish

    I understand your point, but the problem is that JW often doesn't take credit for his horrible failures, and insists on glamoring all of his successes. Furthermore, as an Artist and creative person myself, I understand being a whore and cashing in the fat paycheck for services rendered (Creativity sells). Which is why if a person is paid for a creation, and then complains when it's successful and disowns itself (or blames others) when it's a failure then it's very hypocritical. He was paid for a job, and if he fell in love with his characters, then he should have created them instead of selling them for the highest bidder...selling your baby. It is very interesting you bring about big ideas, because people often don't get credit where it's due. I'm wondering if JW will commemorate all of the forgotten Artists, Writers, Creators, that weren't included in the Disney buy-out of Marvel in his upcoming Avengers movie. Which by the way, is under financial trouble, fights on the set, and they actually had to relocate the filming mainly to LA. This site decided to not run the story because like you said, it's not cool news.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 3:34 a.m. CST

    Don't see the potential.

    by gun_will_travel

    This franchise feels played out, perhaps beyond the reach of rebooting.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 3:56 a.m. CST

    Sergio Fish: Fighting On The Set? That Is Very Cool News

    by Media Messiah

    I didn't know they were filming yet, but, who knows? Fighting on the set, and behind the scenes can be a double edge sword; either you are fighting because there is major incompetence on the set, caused by one or more people, or because you care, and only want the best for the production, and people can have conflicting views on what is best, when they care. Both can be competent, and doing all the right things, but want things their way, rather than compromise to another individual's vision. <BR><BR>Yes, you are correct about Whedon not taking credit for the failures, but he did on Dollhouse, and perhaps he was actually screwed in those other situations, and was right to blame others? You, being involved in the creative field, well, you know yourself that there are a lot of people who are fuck-ups, sometimes they are your financial backers, or just folks you are forced to work with, and what do you do, in that circumstance? You either try to get along with them, compromise, and hope for the best, or quit. You could witness the majority of the brain trust in a venture, just screwing-up, and allow sub-par work by others involved in the production; and they often times, those who allow it, honestly assume that what is sub par, is actually just the opposite, yes, they think it is great and worthy work--that until the final stages of the project, when and others outside of the production, whom they try to sell the work to, point-out its many flaws. Making anything in a group, becomes like winning the lottery if you aren't the money man, and have absolute control of the project, or at least, have been delegated control as the director, or supervising producer, or as an exec. There are more chances than not, that a project will go awfully wrong, than go greatly right, even with a great script. <BR><BR>BTW, speaking of discourse on sets, Star Wars was a near complete mess for George Lucas. The crew openly laughed at him, and thought the movie would be a bomb. Francis Ford Coppola, his mentor, even stated that the film would tank--this, during post production. Lucas said that his then wife, a seasoned film editor, actually saved the film in the edit.<BR><BR>A film, they say, is made 3 times, once when it is first written, then during live action production, and then finally in post production, and specifically of the latter, in the editing stage. If you give a good editor usable footage, even if there were some problems in the first two stages of the three stages of production, that editor can save the film, and make it more than it deserves to be. There are legendary editors in Hollywood who are known for this, and come in as hired guns for studios, but at a very high-price. <BR><BR>A video that I was helping with, rather loosely (by giving my advice), was not turning-out to be, what it should have been--the truth is, it is still lacking. It has some very good shots, and some bad, to ify shots, but I'll tell you, when the director turned in the final product, a person that I am close to, and I, had to go through it, and point-out areas where it could be improved, and should be. The director made a loose effort to accomodate us, but really, we only had something that was half finished, the rest of the shots looked like place-holders. Finally, we talked it over, pen-pointed what we didn't like, and needed changed, and one of us went in and sat with the director, and basically had to back-engineer his half hearted cut, by looking at the out-takes, and inserting some far better shots, and in the end, it turned into something much better. Now, it's 3 quarters of what it should be, but, as it stands, it is a marked improvement. If I had the money, and equipment, I could fully polish this thing within a day or so, but no one wishes to put-up the money, so we'll have to live with it, until, and if, they do. Why did I bring this up? To point-out just what can go wrong with a production, and it happens all the time, not just with Lucas, or Whedon, and all the other big names, no, to some small, to great degree, it happens on most sets. The difference between a great talent, and someone who is average, is a true great can think on their feet and fix unexpected messes, when they happen, like a great quarterback who has to fix a broken football play, real-time, while scrambling on his feet as defenders are rushing him. Again, such is the same with film. The best of the best, always find a way, and if they have the opportunity, and access, they will make a way--or try their best to create one.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 4:05 a.m. CST

    Pollaxt: That Is Really Interesting

    by Media Messiah

    I have never heard that story before, and nor have I seen one of Joss' actual scripts, but I know the stories from watching his work, and the man is a great, and elite, writer...when on-track, and he is a truly great director. He taught me much, from my stand-point as a fan, watching his works. Just about his only work that I disagree with, is Dollhouse. Well, I also had major problems with Angel, but there were enough good ideas to keep me coming back for more, even though the wealth of the show was lacking--in regard to its setting and story-arc.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 5:08 a.m. CST

    shutupfanboy

    by AsimovLives

    I udnerstood the words coming from the mouth of the characters in Jar Jar Abrams's BREWERY TREK quite well. I also understood quite well the bullshit behind the.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 5:09 a.m. CST

    DioxholsterImperium

    by AsimovLives

    Do you live your whole live through envy? Do you project that unto others and believe that others do so as well?

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 5:25 a.m. CST

    DrMorbius

    by AsimovLives

    In "Star Trek IV: Save The Whales" and in "Star Trek: First Contact Of A Half Great Movie, Half Not So Much", they time-travel in classic Star Trek version, which means, they go to their own universe in the past. One of the major concerns and problems in Star Trek was that if you went back in time and change history, the future would never happen, with all the consequences that it would entail. all their efforts, everytime they went to the past, was to let things stay the same, no matter what. One of the reason why CITY AT THE EDGE OF FOREVER is such a bittersweet episode.<br><br>The circunstances that made the Star Trek guys go to a paralel universe was not through time travel, but because of a teleportation malfunction, as first seen in the classic episode MIRROR, MIRROR. That is how they went from one universe to a paralel one, through phasing, so to speak. And that is the rules of the game in the Star Trek universe. Time travel doesn't make you paralel universe crossing.<br><br>But Jar Jar Abrams and his two assclowns Bob Orci and alex Kurtzman thinks themvelves very clever, and they can't give a roayal fuck about Star Trek and even learnign the basis, so they said fuck it all and come up with this stupid paralel universe shit whioch doesn't comply with the already established universe. It's clear that inicially the Star Trek universe they created was to be their own univer5se and fuck wnat went before. It was only when they realised they would get a lot of (justly) flak with their reckles and disrespectful attitude that they retconned at the last minute a "paralel universe" bullshit it was cleary shoved in at the last minute. For all their flaws and dumbness in FRINGE, at least in that show the paralel universe stuff does follow an internal logic of their own, but that's because they are working ontheir own created universe. It's their own playground, they can do it as they pelase. But in their retarded BREWERY TREK bullshit movie, this egomaniac fools decided they were too cool for school to try to learn the basis of the Star Trek universe. all they did was just thrown some small shallow references to the show to appease the fans. I mean, who the fuck cares about that admiral beagle, or if they used the same colour for a service ladder in the Enterprise? Who gives a fuck about such useless inconsequential details, when you fuck up the show's universe? What kind of fools are this clowns? And who buys into this shit?<br><br>I'm not even a trekkie and i can see the bullshit. How people went so happily with it and swallow all the bullshit escapes understanding. I gues it will take a decade or so after the event for people to finally understand what the detractors are talking about. The same way that only now the majority is catchign up to the Michael Bay detractors who already knew about him and his lack of talent and care for making movies right at he time of ARMAGEDDON. I see the same shit about the geeks about Jar Jar Abrams as it was ten years ago about Michael Bay. Slow to catch up to the hacks are the geeks, pretty fucking slow.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 5:27 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by AsimovLives

    You're welcome, friend. I think you will really like BEING HUMAN. Maybe BBC America shows it, who knows? I do know that there is a project about making an american remake/version of the show, as they once did with LIFE ON MARS and the aborted SPACED.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Bring on the suck...

    by will2power

    I have all seven seasons of the show on DVD. My mother and I watch the musical episode of Buffy every couple of months. I say this without reservation that I will not give this movie the time of day. I'm tired of all this effin' reboots. Has hollywood run out of original ideas? This is what happens when you allow business people to make decisions about what movies get made.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 8 a.m. CST

    will2power

    by AsimovLives

    You said it.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Plumfarts and fanfic

    by Madmarek

    This is a plumfart of an idea. Hiring someone who thinks they can put together a decent fanfic script and hammering it with a nail until it looks like a twilight movie sucks big time and I have no intention of watching such a cheap, disrespectful piece of garbage! I hope this bombs so bad there will be fallout for 25,000 years!

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Buffy who?.......Who cares?

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    This is like ten years too late...<p>Not that I was ever interested in this boring and totally overrated show...

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Three Words: Jean-Pierre Jeunet

    by kells

    ...who actually ineptly directed, poorly cast, and freely adapted and rewrote the script from Whedon's original. Jesus fucking Christ, I'm sick of morons who can't even do a basic amount of script-based, three-dimensional comparative research on this film while pinning it all on Whedon. Did the film suck? Yep. Is it all Whedon's fault? Nope. When was the last time the ENTIRE responsibility for the failure of a movie was attributed ENTIRELY to the script-writer? The answer is: the last time someone bitched about Whedon writing Alien Resurrection in one of these dumb-ass, ill-informed talkbacks.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 1:04 p.m. CST

    kells save it.NEWBORN was Whedon's idea.

    by KilliK

    that atrocity alone was enough to kill the A4 movie and help destroy the A franchise,regardless of how bad the creativity involvement of Jeunet's was.

  • Nov. 24, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Sergio Fish

    by pollaxt

    The story comes straight from the mouth of Andrew Stanton himself when everyone was sitting around, trying to figure out how to actually write the script for "Toy Story".

  • Nov. 25, 2010, 11:43 p.m. CST

    I'm just looking forward to this...

    by Gremlin517

    going straight to video. Then maybe after Warner shoots it's wad all over this and it succumbs to the death it deserves--then maybe they will actually make the sequel to the series. Still, I won't be giving Warner any money for this--period! Let's all make Warner lose money on this puppy! It's the only thing that will teach them anything...

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