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AICN COMICS SPECIAL REPORT: Prof's WizardWorld Austin 2010 Con Report!!!
Professor Challenger here. I know it's a week late, but you can't rush a proper Show report. Add into that, a total meltdown of the official "Challenger Computer" and you have a recipe for slight delay. Take note of a few things. I don't mention every celebrity or every comic book pro at Show. None of that is meant as any disrespect. As well, I know it is fashionable in geek circles to take swipes at the whole Wizard World experience. You will find that I am not going to do take down Wizard World in this report, although, I am also not pulling any punches on those aspects of the show that were...shall we say...less than spectacular. Overall, the Austin Comicon was a rousing success for dealers, pros, and attendees. This year has been a choice experience for me in that my Show experience has been limited to 2 brand new cons: C2E2 back in the spring and now the Austin Comicon a week ago. Ultimately, my goal here is to give AICN Comics readers who could not make it to the new Austin Comicon a taste and a feel for what it was like and I hope you enjoy your time spent in my virtual head.
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The next few hours were spent scoping out where everyone was situated and getting a feel for the place. I hit up Greg Horn for a gorgeous "Star Sapphire" print (and wound up buying a Vampirella print too...I'm a sucker for Vampi...have I mentioned that I have one of those life-size posters of Vampi from the '70s signed by Vampi herself?). I checked out Buck Rogers (Gil Gerard) and Wilma Deering (Erin Gray). Erin Gray has aged quite well and were I single and she willing...well…I'd canoodle a bit.
Visited bunches of dealers just looking for a good deal. One guy had a bunch of longboxes with random comics thrown in for 50¢ each. I found mint copies of all 3 issues of GREEN ARROW: THE LONGBOW HUNTERS...a series I regret having gotten rid of years ago during a comics purge. Knowing Mike Grell was at the con, I was thrilled to find them. So, I presented them to the dealer who looked at me with a constipated look and groaned "Are you sure you can't find one more?" I said "Well these are all I wanted." He groaned again "....I don't have.... 50¢" Really? He didn't offer to just let me take all 3 for $1.00, so I said "I'm sure I can find something." I remembered flipping past an old '70s BATMAN comic I had as a kid, so I grabbed that one. Dealer was happy and gave me my change...in bills. Mentally tucked away the fact that I needed to get back to Grell for another sig.
Majors himself is in real good shape and seemed completely overwhelmed by this whole experience. The TV show predates the modern convention mania, so he was obviously quite outside of his comfort zone here. However, he was very friendly and nice. I shook his hand...TWICE! So sue me...he's the frackin' SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN and I wanted to hold his hand a little bit!
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There was a huge emphasis on THE HUMAN CENTIPEDE at this Con, which is bizarre to me. I don't get that appeal at all. But the guy and the two hot girls who star in that low-budget torture flick were there and the most disturbing thing I overheard as I walked by was a guy holding his signed picture from one of the girls and telling her he loved the movie. *shudder* How anyone loves a movie where that girl gets her mouth surgically attached to a guy's butt is beyond my comprehension. Had no interest in Xander from BUFFY, but he was there.
Sometime after lunch, I felt the need to visit the men’s restroom. What I found in there is difficult to describe, but besides the enormous line of geeks waiting to use the various holes, the place looked like a bunch of angry chimpanzees had had a poo party or something. So, I tried the other restroom. It too was a disaster, and now it was becoming urgent. Then I remembered the Teacher's Conference upstairs..."teachers are less likely to conduct themselves like angry chimps" and hopped on the escalator and snuck into the restroom up there. Clean, quiet, victory.
Crowd was pretty huge, so I went off to roam again for awhile and strolled back in about 15 minutes into the panel. I stood way in the back to listen in and snap a couple of grainy zoomed-in photos. By the time I snapped the second picture I was being manhandled by this long-haired dude (too old to keep his hair that long unless he's a member of an '80s hair band). He was in my face about how he told me "4 times from the stage that there were no photos allowed!" To which I informed him that I just walked in and didn't hear that announcement and... he interrupted that we needed to let security deal with me. And I, again politely but firmly, pointed out to him that I obviously understood there was a policy against photos out on the floor because of the paid photo ops (I'm not a moron) but that the sign at the entrance to the panels says that photos ARE allowed while the guests are onstage...for personal use. He smirked and mockingly said "really...show me the sign." I said.."Okay. Unless someone has taken it down or something."
Headed in to the last hour of the GHOSTBUSTERS screening and afterwards visited outside for about another hour with the drop-dead gorgeous cos-play model "Taffeta Darling" and Scott from busygamer.com. I avoided the costume after-party at the Gypsy Lounge when I realized it was waaaayyyy down on the east end of 6th Street. I no go there. Sorry.
I overheard a lot throughout the day as I went in and out of the pathways of celebs, comics pros, and dealers. The most obvious constant was that they were without exception very very happy with the response in Austin.
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After Sturges's panel it was time for Mike Grell's panel. And boy what a panel. Grell is one of those old-school got-a-story-for-every-occasion kinda guys. He was very fun and interesting. His story about how Vince Colletta made Jose Delbo cry over the butchered inkjob he did on an issue of JONAH HEX was a gem. As well, his story about how he came up with the entire pitch for THE WARLORD in 2 minutes while Carmine Infantino was taking a phone-call was classic. After his talk, he came down and shook everyone's hands and thanked them for coming. Very nice.
Cartoonist Phil Ortiz was set up across from macabre cartoonist Angus Oblong and it made for an interesting thing to watch. Phil, of course, illustrates THE SIMPSONS comics and looks like a Simpsons character himself. Angus spent all 3 days in full clown-face makeup...including the red ball nose. Definitely a sight to watch. Both of them were entertaining delighted fans the whole weekend.
Austin's first large-scale Comic Convention was by all accounts a huge success and plans are already underway for next year.
“Prof. Challenger” is actually Texas graphic artist and lifelong reader of comics, Keith Howell. He really digs Green Lantern, most recently completed the cover art for the upcoming book THE WORLDS OF PHILIP JOSÉ FARMER, and has contributed award-winning art, design, and editing to a number of books and magazines. He occasionally updates his website at at profchallenger.com and welcomes feedback from readers, both pro and con, but if female please include an attached pic in a tasteful state of undress. Thanks for all the fish.Readers Talkback
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"I know it's a week late, but you can't rush a proper Show report." I'm sure this is what we'll get whenever someone actually gets to Lincoln news. Harry and the gang probably will sound like Belushi talking to Fisher about why he vanished- a bunch of bullshit excuses.
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I don't know how you top Patrick Stewart and Bruce Campbell as well as Avery Brooks, but they are doing a good job so far. Last year was a Star Trek theme, this year is either women of Sci-Fi with Claudia from B5 and Margot Kidder from Superman. The other theme is Star Wars with Billy Dee Williams, Peter Mayhew and the kid versions of Bobba and Anakin. I am hoping they can land one or two big stars or at least nerd big stars like Mark Hamill or William Shanter. Last year, everyone from Stewart to Avery to Walter Koening to Brent Spiner to Adam West was just amazing. Best Con in years.
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...I still wanna get to Philly in the next year or so, but having the SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN, BIONIC WOMAN, and OSCAR GOLDMAN was pretty darn sweet for a child of the '70s. And...wait...Lincoln was shot? I thought he just had his hat shot off and then returned fire...
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I enjoyed that. I don't know if there's something tragic about these faded stars doing these signings and making a few bucks out of having their photos taken, or whether its just a really enjoyable event where stars and fans get together.
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..I kind of agree. One time I saw Margot Kidder at one of these things and I couldn't bring myself to go up there. She wasn't even featured. Just sitting in Artist's Alley with a bank bag and some photos. :/ But I will say that Claudia Christian, Erin Gray, Gil Gerard, etc. all were clearly having a blast and when lines were low they would just chat long and loud. Lee Majors was outright apologetic for the amount of money people had to pay but did an embarrassed shrug saying "It's out of my hands though." But he truly seemed genuinely taken aback by the attention.
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He played an really evil little fucker. I'm not absolutely sure I would have enjoyed seeing any of these people, despite my love for their shows/movies, apart from Ernie Hudson.
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I'm glad to hear Lee is a cool guy. He was such a hero to so many kids in the seventies.
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Nice report Prof! You saw some of the people/things that I didn't get to. Saw Lou Ferrigno's panel and even though I did not get to watch the Hulk series very much as a kid, he was a great speaker. The Buffy panel was fun because the cast just kept joking around and rolling right along even when the not-so-great audience questions came up. Ray Park was amazing! He was a great speaker, had loads of stories, and was one of the most gracious celebs I've ever seen. He talked at length with every fan that came up and if there were kids who were taking any kind of marital arts training he would step out and take real time to give them a few pointers! Even if those kids grow up to do something besides karate for a living, I bet they will never forget that!!! Then there were about 100 artists in Artist's Alley and they were all great and we bought way too many wonderful prints and got sketches and found a great new thing called Berona's War. For a first attempt at bringing this to Austin, it seemed to be pretty good. The only real fail was in the panel "rooms." They were originally supposed to be actual rooms instead of just cutained off areas in the hall, but the Convention Center fell behind in their construction/renovation schedule and so the Con was forced to improvise. So, really not the Con's fault. I agree about the somewhat "Nazi" tactics of policy enforcement, but all in all I can't wait to go again next year. Better start saving my pennies now.
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...because I know my report is limited to my experience and space. Others who attended, like Raedar, please chime in. :)
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You lived in PUERTO RICO! I'm from there and now live in Austin. I really wanted to go but I worked.
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... from '72 to '76 on Ramey Air Force Base baybee. :)
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That's a name I've not heard in a long time... Long time. He was my sequential art teacher at Kubert and I swear I can't count how often we heard what a lousy inker Vinnie Colletta was. Thanks for the closure on that.
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Missed it because real life came up. Hope to make it maybe next year.
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Nov. 22, 2010, 1:18 p.m. CST
Supposed picture of Parallax from GL movie leaked
by Bruce of all Trades
http://tinyurl.com/35w5x4z <p><p> Good to see AICN is on top of things, as usual.
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Hello, my name is Greg, and I too was a member of the Steve Austin Fan Club. In fact, the signed 8x10 actually hung on the wall of this 5 yr old's bedroom, right next to the Fonzie poster. <p> Sadly, the prospect of watching THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN on dvd does not excite me. For as cool as Steve Austin was *conceptually* (half-robot superspy!), his actual adventures on the show were incredibly low octane. <p>For example, Steve would have to stop a band of smugglers. Not super-cool sci-fi smugglers. They may have had some sort of gimmick, like scuba tanks or somthing, but at the end of the day, they were just smugglers. Something Starsky and Hutch or even Baretta could probably handle. <p>Or how about the episode where they rolled out the old 70s tv trope of the Japanese guy living in isolation on an island and unaware that WWII is over. Seriously, every hourlong adventure series in the seventies had to have this episode, but more to the point, it seemed to be below Steve's paygrade.<p> I think the all time low was the episode where the mustachioed Steve Austin goes undercover as a dockworker, and somehow through the course of the episode, deliberately fools an inner city kid into believing in "fairies." WTF? I mean, forget the fact that the kid who he was trying to reinvigorate with a childlike sense of wonder (or something) was 9 or 10 years old and long past the age of believing in fairies, if you're Steve Austin, shouldn't you be off fighting Bigfoot, or even better, Maskatron? Come on! <p>And that's just it. **Steve Austin Never Fought Maskatron**. He had a battle of wits with robot John Saxon that may have ended in fisticuffs and the admittedly awesome (but totally impractical) wire face (I mean seriously, how would Maskatron move his jaw?), but it didn't really live up to its full robot versus cyborg potential, and they didn't even call him "Maskatron." The fights I created between my Steve Austin dolls were more engaging. <p> THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN, and, arguably, STAR TREK were the methadone of sci-fi entertainment in the 1970s, until the full blown heroin of STAR WARS finally hit the scene. (THE INCREDIBLE HULK, where David Banner would help a single mom deal with her rent or something was like the nicotine patch.) You can blame it on budget, but I really do think they could have done some cool stuff within the constraints they had. <p>So by the time I was 7 or 8, the Steve Austin picture had come down off the wall.
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Did they have to use the slow motion bionic effect EVERY time? Could they have thrown a regular speed effect in every once in a while so we could get a sense of scale?
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...that's how we knew something "bionic" was happening. :) And that's why the show is awesome.
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That's in my hometown! I'm always surprised that people were stationed there since now it's civilian.
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...we were the last of the "army brats" before it went civil. :)
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Nov. 22, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST
I can offer some perspective on the "photo issue"
by The Reluctant Austinite
I work for a couple of different sci-fi/horror/pop culture conventions, and I feel your pain about being treated like a leech for carrying a camera and snapping photos at the show. Con organizers generally turn the staff in the Hell's Angels of protecting their money and it's unfortunate, but I'll tell you their perspective. It's all about money, not fun or fandom. That's become a sad reality. Con celebrities realized around 10 to 15 years ago that they could potentially made a living (or a large part of it) by signing autographs at conventions. This went hand in hand with the explosion of the internet and the rise of ebay where such things could be mass bought and sold. Nobody used to charge for anything. Now celebrities (the draw to bring people to the shows for organizers) can ask for huge guarantees that promise them thousands of dollars to be paid just for sitting at their table during certain hours. If they fail to earn that back in autographs and photos, the organizers have to compensate them for the rest. This can cause some celebrities to get "lazy" because they're promised thousands of dollars no matter what they do, but the organizers want them SELLING! Lou Ferigno, for example, charges $30 for a photo, and he doesn't want someone taking his photo across the room for free. This causes security havoc. Most celebrities, you have to buy something to get a free photo with them. The problem has gotten worse because the economy has hurt fans everywhere who will pay $25 just to get in the door and can't afford $20 per autograph so they'll attempt to take photos as free souveniers. Another problem is that now for everything 5 or 10 people at the Con, at least 2 have a website, pod cast or blog and most of them think that entitles them to free passes and interviews with all the celebrities. Some, like AICN or Fangoria, have real credentials from large readership and years of web presence, but most are Joe & Jeb's FearTalk, broadcasting for 5 months out of their parent's basement. Still, Joe & Jeb consider themselves famous journalists. It's gotten murky. Most of the Con celebrities (and staff) have never even heard of AICN, and although they might recognize Harry, they have 10 other people claiming to write for AICN every day. The organizers are necessarily the bad guys; they just don't want to lose their shirt (and house) for a poor weekend. The celebrities are going to make money no matter what. They get free rooms and travel, and if they're a big enough celebrity, they get a guarantee too. Even if they don't, they'll make something. The organizers only make money if they don't have to pay off all these guarantess AND have a large turn out of paying customers. I tried to handle photo security for Linda Blair once and totally failed. The flash bulbs were going off from every direction and I'm just not a threatening enough asshole to stop them from taking photos, so I had to be replaced by a bigger asshole.
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Nov. 22, 2010, 4:40 p.m. CST
Reluctant, I'm a sometime-con-goer & I agree w/you
by soma_with_the_paintbox
There are people out there who are not willing to shell out $20-30 for a (most likely has-been) actor or property that was special to them? Here's a idea: if you don't have a giant nostalgia boner for the actor/property, don't bother. That way, you'll definitely stay within your budget. To those who'll retort, "But in this economy, fuzzy freebies of pissed-off actors are the only way my fan-wank will be as gigantic as in the past!!!11" That's exactly what it is: wank, and you are exactly what is wrong with geekdom, which is really just a specialized form of consumerism.
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Thanks to Reluctant Austinite for the insight. While these are all things I know pretty intimately, I guess I stil have one question/problem with the way some of these gathereings approach their policies. Do they have to be so rude? Is it simply because they have had various attendees over the years that took a mile when given an inch that they just have to automatically nd without exception treat everyone with suspicion? I would never dream of trying to get something for nothing at these things, but i know that the people behind the tables don't know me from Adam, so I guess they have to assume the worst. However, is is really necessary to about take someone's head off who happens to be passing by within sight of a celebrity table on their way to somwhere else and they whip out their iPhone to read and answer a text they just got? While I understand the "need" to enforce certain things, I just wonder if there is a right way and a wrong way to do it. Thoughts?
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Nov. 22, 2010, 7:06 p.m. CST
Raedar, where there's money there's little trust.
by The Reluctant Austinite
They don't even trust the celebrities. Many try to enforce a "ticket system" where the customer buys tickets for autographs so the celebrity can't lie about how little or how much money they took in. They can trade in tickets for cash at the end of the day. To answer your question, however, there is NO REASON for staff members to be rude. They should be GLAD you're there and kissing your ass for coming to the show. Bad behavior often happens at semi-organized shows where everyone there is volunteer, has never been to s single meeting and has been told to enforce strict rules without exception for reasons they don't understand. Concert and event security is often like this. Events like this can be confusing when not everyone is in communication with each other and on the same page. But a good staff is a wonderful thing; see examples like Wonderfest in Louisville or the Famous Monsters Con in Indy. I don't work for FM, but they're staff was friendly and informative.
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I was hoping that my report might spark a little discussion on this issue. I do know and understand the business side in which the celebrities, particularly, are guaranteed a certain amount and the organizer has to cough up the rest. The issue here for me centered around the manner in which the policies were communicated and enforced. First of all, as a member of the press, I came into the event taking that responsibility seriously. And as such, I brought my "good" camera rather than just my cellphone because I was planning to do a full on photo-journalistic type report. When I realized early on that nobody was going to give me that access because they are so incredibly distrustful of everyone, I switched gears and decided to just basically attend "as a fan" instead of "press" and make my report one from a fan's perspective. It is not how I originally intended it to be. It transformed into that by necessity. It seems to me that for this type of event to ensure that casual or personal photos are not snapped, that they need to declare personal cameras not allowed...but allow for some type of reasonably priced option for unsigned snapshot-style/polaroid-style photos...say $5 or $10. There is, and always will be, without such a policy in place, an expectation by those who drop $25 or more a day to be able to snap pics to commemmorate the event...and these unposed lo-res/cellphone/quick-snap type of pics are never going to impinge upon the photo-op money. Those who want a picture WITH the celeb will drop the cash to do so.
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...I did hear some grousing from people on the floor over some of the signing policies. Everyone uniformly understands that these celebs are here to make money and no rational person begrudges them that. But this right here is the policy that does cause begrudging because it is irrational and does nothing to engender positive fan reaction nor does it particularly increase the profit margin (and in some cases could actually reduce it). Celebrity Joe Blow comes in and offers photo ops for, say, $60 a pop. With the photo op, fan gets a picture WITH the guy AND gets it developed on the spot and signs it. For Joe Blow, that sounds reasonable to fan. However...for the SAME price of $60, fan COULD go and get an 8x10 glossy from Joe Blow and get him to sign it. ??? OR Fan has an old video-cassette of Joe Blow's movie that Fan used to watch over and over as a kid and thought it would be awesome to bring it and have Joe sign it this weekend. When Fan gets up to meet Joe, he finds out that it costs $60 for Joe to sign his beat-up old videocassette. That, at least to the average person, seems irrational. At least have the good sense and decency to do something like price the photo-op at $60, the glossy at $40, and the sig at $20. It still may be silly to pay that for a signature at all, but it would foster more positive reaction from those who do plan to pay for them.
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...and this is just what I personally set for myself. I will sometimes ask for the occasional signature on a book or comic that I already own...without paying for it. In my view, I've already paid my dues with the creator by purchasing the book in the first place. However, out of respect to artists who come to these types of things to make money (and being an artist myself), I usually only bring 1 or 2 personally owned items to be signed and will, as a general rule, purchase something that the artist has for sale at the con. Which is why I love when the artists have reasonably priced prints available. I have intentionally not approached some artists precisely because I did not have anymore money to buy their wares. Writers are a harder type to deal with like that because usually the best they can offer is copies of their books and, like in Matt Sturges' case at Austin, I already had the books he was selling. :/
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...coming from someone who is still fairly new to them (having only been to two). But as with anything I'm new to, I immerse myself in information in order to get the most informative opinion. I like the fact that these cons are a place to totally geek out with other people. I like the fact that there's a bunch of pseudo-celebreties there to pick and choose from. Most are childhood favorites that one might never get a chance to meet again. But it's still so strange to approach someone you're a fan of and talk with them for a few minutes as you get their signature, but to have to essentially pay up front for that "privilege". I firmly understand that these celebrities are there to make money, that they're taking time out of their schedules for this process, and that they should be duly compensated for it. Still, there's something not quite right about it. It's a natural reaction to wonder at which point it's fandom, and at which point it's...well...sleazy. I'm a much bigger fan of the photo ops because at least there is a quality, one of a kind item that is what it is. Just a quick moment with the celebrity, a nice thank you for being here, and that's it. But with having to essentially pay money just to talk with a celebrity, ...something still feels awkward there.
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Go to Kansas City Comic Con. Less Media guests. More comic book dealers. I personally don't give a crap about these "media guests". Make dealer tables cheap and have lots of different products for sale. Don't waste money on autographs. Spend it on books, statues, and prints.
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Make dealer tables affordable. Pay hot chicks (and guys) to dress up as superheroes. College kids and older collecters will show up. And let's not forget about little kids. Put on an event for children like a costume show or coloring contest with winners getting (get ready) Comic books!
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Honestly I had high hopes for this show, maybe unrealistically so, when I heard the show was being relocated to Austin. Having attended all of the past shows in Arlington I knew from experience the Wizard World shows ran hot or cold. Thankfully the Arlington run ended on a high note which made the Austin show all that much more disappointing. I purchased my three day ticket, drove down from Dallas, and checked into my hotel. While I appreciated all of the celebrity guests, just not the prices they were chagrining (Lee Major’s…$65.00…REALLY) to sign a photograph, this show was touted as the Austin Comic Con and not the Austin Celebrity/Sci-Fi/70’s Con. From the comic geek perspective I was highly disappointed. Where the hell were all of the comic vendors?!?!? The comic artists were, for the most part, the same as past shows that Wizard rolled through Arlington with, with a couple of exceptions. So while I expected this show to be new and fresh, it sadly wasn’t. Disappointing to the point, that while I planned to attend all three days fully, I actually only attended Friday for a few hours and then only a couple of hours on Saturday. After that I got the hell out of Austin as I had better things to do with both my time and my money. It this is any indication of future Wizard World shows I won’t be back. I’m not a huge fan of the Ben Stevens shows (Comic / Sci-Fi / Star Wars / Star Trek / Toys) up here in Dallas (Richardson/Plano) but I will give Ben some credit to having a nice mix when it comes to his shows. If he hypes it as a Comic show it will have plenty of comics, if he hypes it as a Star Wars show it will have plenty of…well, you get my drift.
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Buddy of mine was considering setting up a table/booth at the show until he was quoted a price of $900.00. WTH?!?
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What's with all of the wrestling T&A at these shows? Am I missing some obvious link between comics and wrestling chicks? Other than they're nice to look at.
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Wizard didn't have this No Photo rule at Philly con. i remember right after the Patrick Stewart panel, he went back to the Wizard booth on the floor to sign autographs with John deLancie and it was like the paparazzi had descended. Huh..
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There was (?) a partnership with Spike TV. Thankfully they rid of the half-pipes and the DF tower.. Maybe there's a Frazetta-type connection.
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Interesting...I guess that explains that. Thanks for the heads-up!
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