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FRINGE Consigned To Fox Friday Death Slot!! AMERICAN IDOL Moves To Thursdays To Take On CBS Monster Hit BIG BANG!!
I am – Hercules!! RIP Sci-Fi Victims of the Fox Friday Death Slot: The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. (1993) MANTIS (1994) Strange Luck (1995) VR.5 (1995) Sliders (1996) Millennium (1996) The Visitor (1997) Harsh Realm (1999) Brimstone (1999) Freakylinks (2000) Dark Angel (2000) The Lone Gunmen (2001) John Doe (2003) Firefly (2003) Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (2009) Dollhouse (2010) Fringe (2011)* Terra Nova (2012)* *not official * Fox's just-released mid-season schedule makes no mention of "The Good Guys," the new series from "Burn Notice" mastermind Matt Nix. * No mention of "Running Wilde," the new series from "Arrested Development" mastermind Mitch Hurwitz. * No mention of what happens after Jan. 31 to "Lie To Me," the newish series overseen by "The Shield" mastermind Shawn Ryan. * No mention of what happens after Feb. 9 to "Human Target," the newish series from "Jericho" creator Jonathan Steinberg.
Current Fox shows: 18-49 (prior weeks in parentheses; repeats in gray): 5.0 (4.6) (1.9) (4.9) (2.1) (4.7) (4.6) (5.9) (5.6) (1.7) Glee 4.0 (3.7) (----) (1.4) (3.6) (3.6) (4.0) (3.8) (4.2) (1.2) House 3.9 (3.7) (----) (1.7) (----) (3.0) (4.2) (3.7) (2.2) (2.9) The Simpsons 3.4 (3.8) (----) (2.0) (----) (3.4) (4.0) (4.5) (2.4) (2.1) Family Guy 3.1 (3.0) (----) (1.2) (----) (2.6) (3.1) (3.1) (----) (1.9) Cleveland Show 2.7 (2.6) (2.5) (----) (----) (2.6) (2.7) (2.5) (2.7) (----) Bones 2.7 (2.5) (----) (2.4) (1.6) (2.5) (2.5) (3.1) (3.1) (----) Raising Hope 2.6 (2.7) (1.4) (----) (----) (3.1) (3.0) (2.9) (2.9) (----) Hell’s Kitchen 2.5 (2.9) (----) (1.7) (----) (2.5) (3.0) (----) (----) (----) American Dad 1.9 (1.7) (1.8) (----) (----) (2.0) (2.0) (1.9) (2.1) (0.7) Fringe 1.9 (1.8) (----) (1.6) (1.9) (1.9) (2.1) (----) (----) (1.6) Lie To Me 1.8 (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Human Target ---- (1.3) (----) (----) (1.1) (1.4) (1.7) (1.9) (2.4) (----) Running Wilde 0.7 (0.8) (0.7) (0.6) (0.8) (0.7) (0.7) (0.9) (0.5) (----) The Good Guys
It's now poor "Bones'" turn to contend with "Grey's Anatomy," "The Office" and "CSI" at 9 p.m. Thursdays.
I don't know what ABC is putting on Thursdays at 8 p.m. this winter (the new Dana Delany coroner drama maybe?), but I think a good title for it might be "Cancelled."
Look! Press release!!
FOX ANNOUNCES 2010-2011 MIDSEASON SCHEDULE
"AMERICAN IDOL" MOVES TO WEDNESDAYS AND THURSDAYS WITH TWO-NIGHT SEASON PREMIERE WEDNESDAY, JAN. 19 AND THURSDAY, JAN. 20
FOX TUESDAYS CONTINUE TO SING WITH DEBUT OF NEW ENSEMBLE COMEDY "MIXED SIGNALS" FOLLOWING ALL-NEW EPISODES OF "GLEE" AND "RAISING HOPE" TUESDAY, FEB. 8
NEW ANIMATED SERIES "BOB'S BURGERS" OPENS SUNDAY, JAN. 9
NEW POLICE DRAMA "THE CHICAGO CODE" BOOKS PREMIERE MONDAY, FEB. 7
NEW COMEDY "BREAKING IN" SECURES DEBUT WEDNESDAY, APRIL 6
MILLION DOLLAR MONEY DROP Returns Tuesday, Jan. 4; BONES Moves to 9:00 PM Starting Thursday, Jan. 20; Gordon Ramsay's KITCHEN NIGHTMARES Turns up the Heat Friday, Jan. 21; FRINGE Travels to Fridays Beginning Jan. 28
FOX is announcing premiere dates of new and returning series, as well as revisions to its 2010-2011 midseason schedule, including AMERICAN IDOL moving to Wednesdays and Thursdays and GLEE continuing to lead off FOX's Tuesday night of comedies featuring RAISING HOPE and the debut of MIXED SIGNALS.
Television's No. 1 series, AMERICAN IDOL, moves to Wednesdays and Thursdays beginning with a two-night premiere event Wednesday, Jan. 19 (8:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) and Thursday, Jan. 20 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT). AMERICAN IDOL welcomes new judges Jennifer Lopez and Steven Tyler, who join judge Randy Jackson and host Ryan Seacrest, and an all-new crop of hopefuls from auditions held in Austin, Los Angeles, Milwaukee, Nashville, New Orleans, San Francisco and East Rutherford, NJ.
BOB'S BURGERS, the new animated comedy about a man, his family and their burger joint, opens Sunday, Jan. 9 (8:30-9:00 PM ET/PT). In the newest addition to the Sunday "Animation Domination" lineup, BOB (H. Jon Benjamin, "Archer") and his quirky family have big ideas about burgers, but fall short on service and sophistication. Despite the greasy counters, lousy location and a dearth of customers, Bob and his family are determined to make Bob's "grand re-re-re-opening" a success.
As previously announced, THE CHICAGO CODE (formerly titled "Ride-Along"), the new police drama from creator Shawn Ryan ("The Shield"), will make its anticipated debut the night after SUPER BOWL XLV, Monday, Feb. 7 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT), following all-new episodes of HOUSE (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT). The new fast-paced series starring Jason Clarke ("Public Enemies," "Brotherhood"), Jennifer Beals (LIE TO ME, "The L Word"), Delroy Lindo ("Kidnapped") and Matt Lauria ("Friday Night Lights") follows the Windy City's most powerful and respected cops as they navigate the city's underbelly to fight crime and expose corruption.
MIXED SIGNALS, the new relationship comedy created by Bob Fisher ("Wedding Crashers") that reveals how friendships and romances both enhance and complicate the lives of the men and women in them, will have its series premiere Tuesday, Feb. 8 (9:30-10:00 PM ET/PT) following all-new episodes of GLEE (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) and RAISING HOPE (9:00-9:30 PM ET/PT). The new ensemble comedy stars David Denman ("The Office"), Nelson Franklin ("I Love You, Man"), Kris Marshall (HUMAN TARGET), Liza Lapira ("Dexter") and Aya Cash ("Law & Order: Special Victims Unit").
Additionally, FOX has picked up BREAKING IN (working title), an offbeat half-hour workplace comedy about a high-tech security firm that takes extreme - and often questionable - measures to sell their protection services. Created by Adam F. Goldberg ("Fanboys") and Seth Gordon ("Four Christmases" and the upcoming "Horrible Bosses"), the series centers on a team of uniquely skilled oddball geniuses hand-picked to work for a manipulative mastermind. Starring Christian Slater ("The Forgotten"), Bret Harrison ("Reaper") and Odette Yustman ("You Again"), the new comedy premieres Wednesday, April 6 (9:30-10:00 PM ET/PT) following 90-minute AMERICAN IDOL episodes (8:00-9:30 PM ET/PT).
KITCHEN NIGHTMARES serves up a new season Friday, Jan. 21 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT). Each week, Chef Gordon Ramsay will try to help turn around some of the country's most unsanitary and unsuccessful restaurants on the verge of closing their doors forever.
FOX midseason sees other changes as well. LIE TO ME reveals a special two-hour episode Monday, Jan. 10 (8:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) with Dr. Cal Lightman (Tim Roth) continuing his search for the truth in its regular time period Mondays (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) until Jan. 31.
GLEE continues with encores until all-new episodes begin in February with a special installment airing immediately following SUPER BOWL XLV Sunday, Feb. 6 (approximately 10:30-11:30 PM ET/7:30-8:30 PM PT). Beginning Tuesday, Feb. 8 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) GLEE leads a night of all-new episodes of FOX comedies, including RAISING HOPE (9:00-9:30 PM ET/PT) and MIXED SIGNALS (9:30-10:00 PM ET/PT).
MILLION DOLLAR MONEY DROP will challenge more duos to keep their $1 million with all-new episodes airing for four weeks on Tuesdays (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) starting Jan. 4, plus two bonus Thursday (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) episodes on Jan. 6 and 13.
After a run of six all-new episodes in a row this fall, HUMAN TARGET springs into action with special two-hour episodes airing Wednesday, Jan. 5 and 12 (8:00-10:00 PM ET/PT). The action-packed drama charges into its time period premiere Wednesday, Jan. 26 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) following AMERICAN IDOL (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) for three weeks.
The thrill continues when BONES moves to a new time period Thursdays (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) after AMERICAN IDOL (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) starting Jan. 20. Fan-favorite FRINGE will travel to a new night and time with all-new episodes beginning Friday, Jan. 28 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT).
THE CLEVELAND SHOW makes its time period premiere Sunday, Jan. 9 (9:30-10:00 PM ET/PT), with AMERICAN DAD moving to a new time a week later Sunday, Jan. 16 (7:30-8:00 PM ET/PT).
FOX 2010-2011 MIDSEASON SCHEDULE
(All times ET/PT except as noted)
MONDAY
Monday, Jan. 10:
8:00-10:00 PM LIE TO ME (Two-Hour Episode)
Mondays, beginning Jan. 17:
8:00-9:00 PM HOUSE (All-New Episodes)
9:00-10:00 PM LIE TO ME (All-New Episodes)
Mondays, beginning Feb. 7
8:00-9:00 PM HOUSE (All-New Episodes)
9:00-10:00 PM THE CHICAGO CODE (Series Premiere)
TUESDAY
Tuesdays, beginning Jan. 4:
8:00-9:00 PM GLEE (Encore Episodes)
9:00-10:00 PM MILLION DOLLAR MONEY DROP (All-New Episodes)
Tuesdays, beginning Feb. 8:
8:00-9:00 PM GLEE (All-New Episodes)
9:00-9:30 PM RAISING HOPE (All-New Episodes)
9:30-10:00 PM MIXED SIGNALS (Series Premiere)
WEDNESDAY
Wednesday, Jan. 5 and 12:
8:00-10:00 PM HUMAN TARGET (All-New, Two-Hour Episodes)
Wednesday, Jan. 19:
8:00-10:00 PM AMERICAN IDOL (Two-Hour Season Premiere, Part One)
Wednesdays, beginning Jan. 26:
8:00-9:00 PM AMERICAN IDOL
9:00-10:00 PM HUMAN TARGET (All-New Episodes)
Wednesdays, beginning Feb. 16:
8:00-10:00 PM AMERICAN IDOL (Two-Hour Episodes)
Wednesdays, beginning April 6:
8:00-9:30 PM AMERICAN IDOL (90-Minute Episodes)
9:30-10:00 PM BREAKING IN (Series Premiere)
THURSDAY
Thursdays, beginning Jan. 6:
8:00-9:00 PM MILLION DOLLAR MONEY DROP (All-New Episodes)
9:00-10:00 PM BONES (Encore Episodes)
Thursdays, beginning Jan. 20:
8:00-9:00 PM AMERICAN IDOL (Season Premiere, Part Two)
9:00-10:00 PM BONES (Time Period Premiere)
FRIDAY
Friday, Jan. 7:
8:00 PM-CC ET AT&T COTTON BOWL (Live)
Friday, Jan. 21:
8:00-9:00 PM KITCHEN NIGHTMARES (Season Premiere)
9:00-10:00 PM KITCHEN NIGHTMARES (Encore)
Fridays, beginning Jan. 28:
8:00-9:00 PM KITCHEN NIGHTMARES (All-New Episodes)
9:00-10:00 PM FRINGE (Time Period Premiere)
SATURDAY
Saturday, Jan. 15:
8:00 PM-CC ET NFC DIVISION PLAYOFFS (Live)
Saturdays, beginning Jan. 22 (no change to lineup):
8:00-8:30 PM COPS (All-New Episodes)
8:30-9:00 PM COPS (Encore Episodes)
9:00-10:00 PM AMERICA'S MOST WANTED (All-New Episodes)
SUNDAY
Sunday, Jan. 9:
8:00-8:30 PM THE SIMPSONS (All-New Episode)
8:30-9:00 PM BOB'S BURGERS (Series Premiere)
9:00-9:30 PM FAMILY GUY (All-New Episode)
9:30-10:00 PM THE CLEVELAND SHOW (Time Period Premiere/All-New Episode)
Sunday, Jan. 16 and 23:
7:00-7:30 PM THE SIMPSONS (Encore Episodes)
7:30-8:00 PM AMERICAN DAD (Time Period Premiere)
8:00-8:30 PM THE SIMPSONS (All-New Episodes)
8:30-9:00 PM BOB'S BURGERS (All-New Episodes)
9:00-9:30 PM FAMILY GUY (All-New Episodes)
9:30-10:00 PM THE CLEVELAND SHOW (All-New Episodes)
Sunday, Jan. 30:
7:00 PM-CC ET NFC PRO BOWL (Live)
Sunday, Feb. 6:
6:00 PM-CC ET SUPER BOWL XLV (Live)
10:30 PM ET/7:30 PT GLEE (All-New Special Episode; Approximate Start Time)
Sundays, beginning Feb. 13 (no change to lineup):
7:00-7:30 PM THE SIMPSONS
7:30-8:00 PM AMERICAN DAD
8:00-8:30 PM THE SIMPSONS
8:30-9:00 PM BOB'S BURGERS
9:00-9:30 PM FAMILY GUY
9:30-10:00 PM THE CLEVELAND SHOW
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Fringe is a great show; and Fox looks to be showing it the door.
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Fringe was already struggling in the ratings this season, despite being really good. The movie to Friday nights will just make it even harder to get the ratings, and give Fox the excuse to cancel it after this season. :(
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FRINGE (and THE SIMPSONS) is your standout show-- the best thing on TV right now and that includes HBO and Showtime. The damn thing was put in a Hell-Slot on Thursday nights and held its own and now you're dumping it? Pathetic.
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If it's not reality television or a cartoon they have no clue what to do with it.
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last year they destroyed dollhouse now they want to do the same to fringe? fuck them
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and that doesn't bring in new viewers. If it had stayed on our side and focused on monster of the week it might have had a chance. I've personally been enjoying the story this season but there's no doubt it was ratings suicide.
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why didn't they move Fringe to Tuesdays?...that was its original timeslot during Season 1
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There's another reason to hate Network TV. I guess every network has it's Jeff Zucker somewhere in the ranks.
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I am just seriously flabbergasted. I...I...urg.
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Would be nice if for once a showrunner saw the writing on the wall and structured the remaining episodes of this season to wrap up most loose ends JUST IN CASE it doesn't get renewed for another. Not every season has to have some open ended cliffhanger. They should just assume its the end and give the fans some closure. And if by some miracle they get another season, then they can continue where they left off.
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maybe Fringe can get that slot later.
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Who will rid us of this troublesome network?
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I don't know why I am surprised. They suck in the sci-fi/fantasy geeks with words of love, then they hold you down to do a D & C on your geeky uterus. Expect Fringe's budget to be cut dramatically. If Fringe gets a 1.1 on Fridays, it'll be a miracle with fucking old wise men giving it smelly things.
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Fringe's great uncle X-Files.
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They know their fucking audience, right? No, they just don't care.
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We have baseball, dump Fringe for a month. <br></br> One Month later... <br></br> Hey, Tarquin, Fringe's numbers are down, why's that? <br></br> I have no idea Chad. Why did the chicken cross the road? <br></br><br></br> That wasn't what I asked Tarqin. <br></br> I'm sorry Chad I'm finding it hard to focus. I don't read sci-fi, sci-fi is hard I have my assistant do it. She tells me when they shoot guns... Oooohhh. Wait Chad. Is Fringe the one with the crazy druggy guy? I like when he takes drugs... I take drugs... <br></br> So why did the chicken cross the road? <br></br> <br></br> It doesn't matter Tarquin. We'll blame Obama...
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It's an "Well, we tried everything!" fallback. <p> Jesus, it's like no one ever saw a Joss Whedon sked before.
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"Now get in the fucking van. We're gonna go to town on your Siffy ass."<br /><br />Fox. We rape Scifi shows, so you don't have to.
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stop trying something new and quirky only to take it away. Just regurgitate old shit and reality tv and don't bother getting our hopes up again.
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Team Gibbs did what no other show was able to; drive that reality POS from Tuesdays.
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SERIOUSLY. FUCK THEM. can NBC or the CW or SCIFI pick them up? FUCK FOX. FUCK THEM.
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People have DVRs and Hulu, Fox. If you want to show reruns of Glee, throw THEM to the friday night death slot where all the socially-inept die-hards can get their jollies listening to autotuned Journey shit.
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has an already established audience over many years on the air. Most of those shows listed were in their first year. Also something you might want to note the Xfiles started on Friday nights ( right after Brisco County Jr. I believe ). And another thing since the SyFy channel has pulled most of their high profile Friday night viewing this might fill a void.
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Those were the days...
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They will kill FRINGE!
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Friday nights used to be a prime spot...remember Dallas?...Dukes of Hazzard?...X-Files?...it's only recently become a dumping ground for soon to be cancelled shows...maybe Fringe can get bring Friday nights back
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A core audience means shit when you are pulling the ratings that Fringe has been getting. Their highest rating this year was a 2.1 for their premiere and has settled in the 1.7 - 1.9 range. There is no way the same amount of viewers are going to follow it to Friday. My generous guess is a 1.1 - .9 for a Friday slot. With budget cuts, they *might* give it another season after this one. Might. <p> There is already a "Save Fringe" campaign, btw. Those always work.
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So Fox decides to move what was the highest rated freshman series of 2008-2009 from Tuesday to Thursday, where it does moderately well given the competition, but probably not well enough to sustain its budget. Fox's solution is not to move it back to its successful spot on Tuesdays, where it would pair with another younger skewing show (and also one of the top rated shows on all of television), Glee. How do these executives keep their jobs?
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Sad to say while a staple of my TV viewing, the show has run it's course. The entire duplicate Olivia story line has worn out it's welcome (it should have been resolved in the first three episodes) and the dual turns by the actors does give the a chance to show their range; the stories have been mediocre. The episode where they found parts of the "machine" buried in ancient sites all over the world made no sense (unless time travel is an option in the alternate-verse) and just digs the writing into an even deeper hole.
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The show will continue to be brilliant no matter what time slot it has been consigned to. And in five years people will be renting this on DVD on wondering why the fuck they didn't watch it. This show is as good as television gets, and will last as long as purely good television can - which is to say, probably not long. Oh well, back to watching television do what it does best - succeed at mediocrity. (Well, you can go back to doing that - I'll watch this show for as long as it's on, on any night, and cherish the memory.)
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They CAN'T cancel the series!!!
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Maybe it's just too good for regular network TV. Move it over to FX -- I'd gladly take smaller 13-episode seasons over a Friday night death slot on Fox. Hell, had it been on FX all along, it might have already gotten some Emmy love.
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can he be THAT big of an aussie asshole?
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Network tv still has some decent half hour comedies, but as far as scripted hourlongs go its just getting worse and worse. <br />Huge fan of Fringe and hope it can survive on a Friday for a while, after its gone will only be coming back to network TV for some of the comedy and sport<br /><br />
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Aaron Paul deserved to win but Noble should have been nominated, he is clearly one of the best actors on TV
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a Ric Flair quote. He's Peter Rice, the VP of FOX programming, btw. Sic 'em :) <p> http://tinyurl.com/2fk9rmu
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Welp- they better wrap up the show this season. Fucking HATE FOX! Hate their news, politics, their shitty movies, and now their shitty decision to essentially axe one of the best show on televisions because the tards moved it to the hardest night on cable television!
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That may help to at least give it a 4th season. Damn, it's my favorite show. I'm gonna sell my fox shares
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move that to friday's. and if fringe is canceled hopefully abc, fx or hell even syfy
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Murdoch WAS married to her father's sister (her aunt). She's been estranged from her father for years, and in any case, Murdoch and her aunt are long since divorced! They have no relationship.
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It was fun while it lasted.
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Who is Ric Flair and your tinyurl doesn't work.
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X-Files found an audience there. And let's face it, Friday night TV sucks, so there's not much competition. Maybe it's a good fit? But yes, sticking to a straight-up ongoing storyline is saying, "We don't need to attract new viewers. We're going to tell the story we want to tell and hope the people will show up to see it." -- Which I admire, even if it's ratings suicide.
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guess they arent happy with the premiere ratings and just wanna burn off all the episodes, just like they did with season 9 of Scrubs. and wow, American Dad gets the one spot where its likely to not air during the football season. lets hope bob's burgers burns and it comes back. speaking of, that show looks retarded and they look like something a 5yr old drew....oh and the guy doing the dad, can he even do another voice? this is like the 4th or 5th animated characters i've heard him do and they literally all sound the same.
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Guess I'll watch Fringe after it airs.
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Friday's are for shows that don't grow... A 2.0 clearly is the best this show can hope for - and now will be lucky to get 1.5...
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With American Idol as it's lead in, it's gonna at least see some form of bump in the ratings, probabaly enough to warrant a third season. Sucks to see running wilde gone, I thought that show was pretty funny
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Seriously WTF is in the water over there? I need a regular dose of Sci-Fi seriously i'm one of those guys who fucking detest reality, reality shows and people who keep it fucking real. <br></br><br></br> I need my escape. I need alternate universes and shaky scientific theory. I'm not OCD up in this bitch. This shit doesn't have to be perfect. I'm not dissecting it for the sake of shit to do. I watch. I enjoy I get on with life. Just make it entertaining. <br></br><br></br> And yeah, I like where the story going. Do I need more? No. <br></br><br></br> Fuck you whiners.
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Cancel Fringe and I will have no reason to watch you! FUCK YOU RIGHT IN YOUR STUPID ASS!!!
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its in year 3 which makes year 4 cost effective as it'll seal any syndication deal. It may limp there, but it'll get a year 4. Year 5? No way.
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Nov. 19, 2010, 9:43 p.m. CST
People assumed Smallville was going to wither on Friday nights..
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...and the show's as popular as it's ever been. Plus, The X-Files ran its first three seasons on Fridays, and turned out *fairly* successful in the long run.<BR><BR>Still, this sucks. If they're gonna move the show AGAIN, there's no reason not to put it back in its ORIGINAL SLOT on Tuesdays. No one watched X-Files when it was first on, and yet it ran for nine fucking years. Not that I want to see Fringe running THAT long (five-six seasons would be just right), but Fox seems to WANT this to die, which makes no fucking sense. Season one they had limited commercial interruptions, but even since season two, they've been micro-managing the hell out of the series (remember that female FBI agent who was supposed to be a new regular who disappeared after TWO episodes?). For fuck's sake, don't kill Fringe!
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We hardly knew you.
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Oh cock.
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http://twitter.com/#!/maskedscheduler/status/5806640641081344 <p> [Remove spaces now, I guess] He doesn't really know how to use twitter anyway, since I'm the one saying everything before "all comers" & he says the line after. That's what makes twitter trolling [twolling?] him fun though. And Ric Flair is the greatest professional wrestler of all time. All Time!
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IT NOT getting better ratings?
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fringe has wasted all its potential. fuck it, good riddance.
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is usually 100 episodes for them to make any money back. CW has a lower radius of households which means that their demo will always be lower compared to the Big Four networks, which means less expectation. The fewer number of households will be the ONLY reason why networks other than the Big Four will come into play. It's the reason why The Walking Dead numbers are such a huge fucking deal.
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Why move it? It's doing fine where it is. This is crazy.
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I have heard of and watched every one of those shows listed, but VR5 escapes my memory.
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We watched X-Files on Fridays...this was a couple of years before the internet was mainstream and in every home. Before the DVR and TiVo. Friday doesn't necessitate the death of the show, in fact, it could thrive there. Smallville is ending this season and this could provide those viewers with something to watch assuming that Fringe gets picked up again next year. It's not a great sign, but don't ring the death knell until the corpse is cold. Funnily enough, on Fringe, the brilliant Walter Bishop would still find a way to make a corpse survive :P
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This is almost certainly the last nail. NBC, FUCKING DO SOMETHING FUCKING NOW.
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Friday is a place where shows could possibly float for a while. Fringe has more style than Firefly and Dollhouse did(no offense). Maybe Fox thought with it getting a 1.7 in the made up ratings but I bet it gets good DVR. So they might have made the move because if the show continues to have those types of ratings they can write it off with a "But it's Friday"... Keep the show at least for a 4th year for syndication cash knowing that the fan base they have will tune in on friday. Which if they canceled it they wouldn't have a guranteed fan base for whatever other show they put in that slot. It does piss me off that Fox has horrible shows like that comedy after Glee... It's fucking horrible. Human Target might do alright with American Idol buuut not sure how well AI is going to do with all the changes. Still if Fox dumps: Fringe, Human Target and Lie to Me... Those are like my top 3 shows on tv minus some comedies here and there. I'll just have to give up on TV and stick to watching movies I love.
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Since it sucks like a nuclear powered hooker.<p>Human Target on the other hand is a GOOD and ENTERTAINING show.
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<P> was awesome. The abduction part was good but I especially liked how Olivia came back for a moment then vanished, then how Peter gets that phone call. </P> <P> This is the best thing on TV. FOX needs to just let the show gain its audience over the long haul. Fuck all of these brainless reality shows and their retard viewers. They wouldn't know what a plot was even if it smashed them in the face. </P> <P> It seems like any time a show requires some thought to understand it, it struggles to find its footing. </P>
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Fringe is a god damn amazing show and yet people aren't watching it? What the f***? All three seasons have been really strong and the seasons clearly have a point since day one. So while people here are slamming FOX...who MUST know the curse of that time slot, the fact is that there is NO reason for the ratings to be this low. So screw fox, sure, but F*** the idiots who aren't watching this. What else is even on to compete at that time?
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The Good Guys will have aired the final episode in its order: Episode 20 by year's end. For its first season, The Good Guys got 20 episodes. Not bad at all. Will it return, perhaps next summer? I have doubts. It seems to me like the contractural obligations needed to fulfill the talent holding deals of its three principals (Bradley Whitford, Matt Nix and Colin Hanks). I don't think either FOX or most of these guys care to continue the show.<p><p>As for Fringe, I say the odds for a fourth season are 50/50 right now. But if it does return next season, I predict its episode order will be cut down to 20 or 18, and it won't premiere until after baseball is over, in November 2011.
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Make that two bags, one for this side and one for the alternate universe.
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Nov. 19, 2010, 11:33 p.m. CST
Fringe against competition, gets better numbers than NBC Monday'
by CCon99
Fox should have moved Fringe to Monday nights, it gets equal if not better ratings then NBC's Monday shows and Fringe gets those numbers against much tougher competition.
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<P> At least I know that there is a paraworld where the other me is enjoying the smash hit show called Fringe. Expected to last beyond 10 seasons. They have Fringe parties there, the alt Christopher Nolan is directing a Fringe movie, after he gets done with The Dark Knight Rises with The Riddler in it. There's a popular Fringe comic book and people wear Fringe shirts and hats and there's a cool band called Fringe. </P> <P> One of the show's most popular episode is where they discovered a paraworld exactly like ours here. They originally wanted to destroy it because of its lack of intelligence. Most of the public is socially wired together, making them so simple minded with no attention span that one of the most popular shows is Jersey Shore, among other reality shows, and Sarah Palin is popular. </P> <P> They decided not to destroy this paraworld because they realized what makes their world so perfect is that the other world is so fucking stupid. </P>
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Assholes, the lot of them. All about big ratings and big money instead of producing interesting quality programming.
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Not too shabby, man.
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<P> http://tinyurl.com/24zgumy </P> <P> To keep Fringe from being canceled. </P>
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I still think Mondays at 9 p.m. EST would've been preferable but at least it's away from the SURVIVOR time slot. Shame about FRINGE, though, but SMALLVILLE and FRINGE back-to-back sounds like a great Friday night geekfest.
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I don't want to be left hanging.
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...they're putting it up against Supernatural. While I wouldn't say they're exactly the same, they sure as hell are appealing to the same audiences. You'd be hard put to put two more similar shows in competition.
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as some seem to believe. On Thursdays, NBC has purposely made a 3 hour comedy block & they are going to promote it as such. They are going to take advantage of Carrel's leaving the Office for promotion, 30 Rock's re-up for the next TWO years & the return of the critically favorable Parks & Rec. And Community will be kicking off the night with a newbie comedy in the middle. They might not be opening strong with Community but at this point, they are opening safe. And that's NBC's Word Of The Day at the moment: SAFE. <p> It's why I predict Chuck is going to get picked-up for another season as well.
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In the alternate universe, Profit, Firefly, John Doe, Heroes, Lost, among other notable series have lasted 10 years or more.
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there were a bunch of Gen X'ers in college and high school to keep it going strong its first 5 year. Gen X'ers weren't distracted by the internet and cell phones, let alone digital social networks. Trying to replicate a sci-fi show on the Friday night time doesn't work any longer. The nerds are on the internet now, not watching TV. The X-Files success was unique because the confluence of the era and the technology, and well as "social" status of its main viewers.
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Hope it can be saved for another season or two.
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at Castle. It shows the exact same signs of a a Hit, of the Shows this season it's Castle that's going to gain the majority audience. Castle is going to gain huge ratings in it's Season 3 and possible Season 4 when it gets there. Mirrors The X-Files success. Nautilus the Gen X'ers were the first Internet users that kept The X-Files on air via it's forums and chatrooms.
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TXF stopped airing on Friday 14 years ago. Since then very few scripted series that debuted or was moved to Friday lasted more than a year or two.
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I don't care what anyone says - The Good Guys was a fun show that only kept getting better and funnier and was really finding it's groove. Too bad TNT or USA doesn't pick it up.
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It was a show that centered around a girl, I think, who traveled into some virtual-reality world. It was kinda like "The Matrix," except I think it came before that movie. It was kinda trippy. I only watched one or two episodes; I mostly remember the promos for it. I guess it was "The Matrix" meets "Medium."
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And I plan not to ever again. If Fringe is canceled the only thing I'll watch on Fox is football, and their coverage sucks balls anyway.
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Most of the cool kids don't start heading out to party until like 11pm or later anyway.
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But what if you're wrong. They seem to be following it as well as they can despite FOX constantly putting it on hiatus. What if it get's the same ratings even in the death slot? Will they cancel it then?
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Right now, Community's numbers are ok but not great. Up against Bang and Idol, its audience must surely fall. I can only hope it gets moved sometime because it is too good to deserve cancellation.
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This is something that I wonder about. I really don't know how big a budget Fringe has but it can't be anywhere near what Star Trek or BSG had. If FOX drops this SyFy might consider doing the smart thing and try to pick it up. It would be an instant sucess over there. The series could finish it's last two years ( which isn't much a commitment for SyFy ) and they'd have a quality top notch show that would fill the gap of those shows that have left SyFy over the years. It would help bring back some credibility that SyFy has lost in recent years. Still I don't have much hope that they's do the smart thing but still there's hope.
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pandering dreck. if you support that type of shit, i hate you.
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Yeah The Xfiles used to be on Fridays and then they moved it to Sundays. Not a big improvement. And it still thrived. That's why they keep mentioning it. That and the obvious similarities between the shows. I think all this show needs is the proper exposure. Most people I've talked to don't really know what it's about. Then when I loan them some episodes it's " Damn you * my real name *! Now I can't stop watching it!
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Anything to cut into American Idol ...
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Ahhh! They did stupid things with BSG that's true. However SyFy and all of their parent companies now have a new owner. One can only hope that might make a difference. The head of NBC ( one of those companies ) is already gone as a result.
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Honestly NBC, Community is the only American sitcom I've liked since Arrested Development ended (ok, Better Off Ted was good too but thats beside the point) so don't you dare cancel it otherwise it'll prove beyond doubt that smart comedies simply CAN'T be sucessful on US TV. <p><p>And with Fringe, I've read interviews with the producers where they say they have a endgame planned and would only need 3 episodes notice to wrap up all the story threads. So even if the worst happens, we won't get left with a cliffhanger as long as FOX gives them some indication
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Nov. 20, 2010, 11 a.m. CST
fox also appears to have targeted AMERICAN DAD for termination
by palewook
nothing survives in the 7pm/7:30pm sunday slot on fox either. <p> space above and beyond got pushed there. futurama got pushed there. etc.
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have you watched the channel recently? <P> gordan ramsey's cooking show or american idol is a better fit for syfy now than fringe.
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Nov. 20, 2010, 11:05 a.m. CST
FOX should just give FRINGE 24's old airing schedule (Jan - May)
by MrMysteryGuest
and maybe have Kiefer Sutherland a recurring guest spot. :)
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Where sci-fi goes to die.
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They'd move Fringe back to Tuesdays. Tuesday is currently a tv ghost town. Think of it as Friday, only it's the Friday where people are home and *want* to watch tv but can't because THERE IS NOTHING FUCKING ON.
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and I didn't know Fringe was still on.
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, and I mean this with all sincerity, I will never watch a Fox program again in my life. They are fucktards.
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They're putting Fringe to Fridays which will kill this awesome show. They already killed my Sarah Connor Chronicles. Anyone who has a brain should know that, unless the show is based in fact or drama, and doesn't contain any type of sci fi whatsoever, they should stay away from FOX. They cancel ALL sci-fi shows. Let's hope it doesn't happen, but FOX just sucks when it comes to this.
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Did I miss a news article about NBC potentially cancelling it? Or are the speculations in this thread based solely on its weak ratings and timeslot?
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Nov. 20, 2010, 1:41 p.m. CST
FRINGE, best Sci Fi show currently on TV by a mile..
by CeejayNightwing
and if you aint watching it then you're batting for the wrong team!
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I think people are just assuming that Community's pretty screwed based on American Idol moving to the same timeslot starting in January. Between that and Big Bang Theory, it doesn't look good.
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Saw some pretty wacky interpretations of why this show worked and when. IIRC, the first year went slow... but as the second came on it started to catch fire as people discovered it to the point that they moved it later. The reasons it worked were simple... there are a lot of crazy, nut jobs that watch the Paranormal Stuff(witness the flood of Ghost Hunters, Paranormal Activity's outsized numbers, and in general the popularity of the genre in general) in combination with the chemistry of your typical two lead male/female pairup.<p><p> The problems with Fringe are two-fold and are direct opposites of the above. First is its Sci-Fi and crazy, nut jobs don't beleive in Science or Science-based shows. Second is that Anna Torv and Joshua Jackson have no chemistry. If I had gaydar, it would be blasting at full volume when it comes to Anna Torv. She often comes off as more man than he does. Every time I see them trying to make out or whatever on screen, the sell just isn't there. Apart they do fine jobs and pull their own weight, together as a couple? Just eww. Don't get me wrong, I love the show and catch it each week, its just pretty clear why it hasn't worked on a mainstream level.
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I like Fringe. It's well done for what it is. However it is seriously lacking in the chemistry department. Sadly the best energy comes off of Astrid and Walter's interactions. <p>But the main problem is Anna Torv. She has no charisma at all. I realize the character is kind of glum and that's probably ill-advised but even in the alt universe, where Dunham is a bit more vivacious, there's still no magnetism there.<p>X Files ultimately fucked up what seemed like a cool mythology, but the thing that made that show really take off was great chemistry between the two leads (and Skinner, too!)
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Horrible.
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Faux would not even exist. I've blocked all of their channels from my cable and download anything I want to watch (damned little).
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...that racist, Australian NAzi Murdoch wanters across a cult of gay, transvestite, socialist, atheistic, pagan, Democrats who procede to tie him down and fuck him up the ass repeatedly and to the point of death with multiple jackhammers. That's really the only way for karma to deal with fuckin' Ozzie Goebbels. Roger Ailes needs to be force-fed AIDS infected jizz until he explodes like Mr. Creosote. (Yeah, I know Ailes has nothing to do with Fox entertainment, but what the hell? Why not?)
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Could they treat "Fringe" any worse? Why they couldn't have left it in its original Tuesday night timeslot is beyond me. Instead, they had to move it to the most competitive night on TV, put it on long hiatuses, and now it seems they're putting the final nail in the coffin. They always cancel the sci-fi shows they schedule on Friday nights. In fact, they're always canceling their sci-fi shows. Why bother anymore? I was so pissed when they canceled "Sarah Connor Chronicles" after that fantastic finale, but I love "Fringe". If they cancel it, there will be nothing worth watching on their network.
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The show is already pulling cancellation worthy numbers. This is not going to be a case of a show with good ratings sinking because of Friday, or never finding in Audience because of Friday. This is Fringe pulling terrible ratings and getting moved to a slot where that is more acceptable. Maybe it gets another Season on Friday, otherwise it is a sure bet for cancellation.
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I blasted through every ep in the last couple of weeks. It's alright. I'm enjoying Earth 2 much more than monster of the week. John Noble rules. B
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It never should have been on Thursday nights anyway.
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fox would have to find something else to replace it. i wonder what that would be
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Thursday is now apparently the only night people watch television. Ratings wars are so Cosby-era. Find a night when people are at home, show your show and cash your ad checks. <br> <br> And Idol always runs two or three nights for competitions and then results shows. Does that mean they'll run results on Friday?
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If they had Olivia do voiceovers and turned it into a straight medical drama, it would be huge. This show is too smart for the masses.
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They're still using a one directional advertising model with statistical feedback. How the hell can they tell whats really going on with their model anyway?
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dont know why. theres something exotic about a chick that travels between realities you know what i mean?
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I think it would pair well with a show like Psych and possibly another similar new half hour show. It'd be fun to see it go someplace like FX or IFC and go balls out, but I don't see that happening.
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Fringe is fucking brilliant, and you're master plan it to axe it? Excuse me while I watch ANOTHER Hell's Kitchen, for fuck's sake. I sure hope you had 'X FILES' in mind in your Friday night move here.
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Nov. 20, 2010, 11 p.m. CST
Fuck Fucking Fox right in their Fucking Fucked up Asses!
by GoFuckYourself
Fuck them for fucking with my show. The show that took over for me after my Lost was taken from me. Fuck them for taking away a show that at least attempts to be mentally stimulating by offering somethings to think about other than guy high schoolers singing (RAPING) some of our most beloved classic rock songs (sorry, Love me some Journey!), or some dumb rip-off of ER or even Grey's Anatomy. Thanks FOX for leaving me with SHIT to watch, which means more of watching my wifes Tivo'ed shows and uping the estrogen count in my body FULLY placing my testicles into my wifes purse until the end of fucking time. Oh yeah, FUCK Joe Buck too! He is a cunt and couldn't broadcast any sporting event to save his life- let alone stick him with Troy (Clinically Brain Dead) Aikman during football games on Sunday. Great jog, you bunch a Fucking Fuck FUCKS! Go fuck your fucking MOTHERS!
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pretty much what ^ he said
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... back in the 80s and 90s, between networks that actually dared to take chances once in a while and the variety first-run syndication provided us. Sci-fi, fantasy and horror shows were everywhere, with more every year. Hercules and Xena, Highlander, Brisco, VR5, Babylon 5, Space Precinct, Max Headroom, Friday the 13th the Series, War of the Worlds, Freddy's Nightmares, Nightmare Cafe, V (in all its incarnations), the New Twilight Zone (in all its incarnations), Tales From the Darkside, Monsters, hot and cold running Star Treks, Mantis, the Flash, Wizards and Warriors, Misfits of Science, and Lord knows how many more I've forgotten... they weren't all gems, I'll admit, but they were at least interesting concepts. What do we have to look forward to now, besides endless reality shows, trite melodramas, and unfunny comedies. Where did imagination go? Where did creativity go? I've given up. I no longer expect the networks to put on anything I want to watch, and even when there is something I *ought* to be interested in, I can't get enthusiastic about it. After all, it won't last long. It's a cynical way to look at things, but it's accurate.<BR><BR>I should have watched Fringe, but I never really got into it. It seemed too similar to the X-Files... and I was still upset over how crappy the last couple years of *that* were. Bad judgement call, I guess. The only genre show I regularly watch now is the Walking Dead. I like it OK, but I'm not crazy-passionate about it. The only other thing I'm following is Detroit 187, even though it's an average cop show, because I'm from Detroit and I like seeing my city on TV. (Given how low the ratings are, I don't expect it to last much longer.) Ninja Warrior's fun, when it's on, and I catch the occasional Highlander or Stargate rerun, when I'm not reading, listening to the radio, or messing with my computer. Maybe someday the pendulum of pop culture will swing back my way and we'll get a new golden age of sci-fi/fantasy entertainment. Until then, I'm opting out of network BS.
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It reminds me too much of X-Files which is a bad thing moslty due to being unoriginal.(Fringe, that is.)And man did the opening theme for Human Target sucked.it almost sound like some bad porn music.
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Walternate too.<p>I love both Broyles, Scarlie, and Burnface.<p>I'm on team team-up.
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Can you say " Troll "? If you don't like " Fringe " what is the point of repeatedly posting in this thread? But we already know that.
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<P> It's funny how people complain about how it's like the X-Files. What, any paranormal show is going to remind you of the X-Files? Look at all the 4000 judge shows, the elimination reality shows, the stupid reality shows showing a family or a bunch of fucktards living together, all the dance/ talent competition shows. </P> <P> Fringe is a total relief from that trash. Our society can't think 5 minutes past its cell phone. </P>
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Well, Fringe is the last network show I watch...if it goes away, I have no reason to keep cable anymore; Netflix/Hulu, etc are great!
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...has occurred due to the success of AVATAR and to a lesser extent, STAR TREK. IMHO networks will have to comply.
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anythings better than thursday night
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... is the paranormal aspect. And if this is what makes them similar, then every paranormal show is the same as any other. <p>However, just to entertain the idea, the most annoying aspect of X-Files was the fact that Scully always just happened to miss the very thing that would convince her that something real was happening. No such thing on Fringe; the characters accept that freaky things CAN and DO happen... AND they get to SEE THEM! This, to me, is part of what makes the show enjoyable.
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I know I'd mentioned this before, but I just thought it was worth repeating. FTR, BOTH Olivias are actually Fauxlivia; two parallel storylines where each is pretending to be (or being made to out to be) the other. I thought that this was a stroke of genius. I'm very interested to see how they close this... I hope they don't think it necessary to kill off Olivia or Bolivia.
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I realize *now* that Fringe and X-Files aren't that much alike. At the time Fringe started, my perception was different. I was mad as hell about the way the X-Files ended, and that colored the way I looked at Fringe. I admit it was probably a bad judgement call, given how many Talkbackers love the show. Maybe I'll give it another try w/the DVDs.
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Fringe is a great show...not sure why it isn't bigger? maybe they should have had more "monsters of the week" episodes to build up audience numbers?<P> Noble is great, as with Reddick...Jackson and Torv are solid as well...I am going out to buy the Blu-rays, but I hope Fox keeps it going at least until they wrap up all the storylines...The Vacuum is really interesting storyline...
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Watch the last two episodes of Season 2 (Over There, Parts 1 and 2) and continue into the third season so far. THEN go back to the beginning and trudge through the monster-of-the-weeks to see how they lead up to the amazing events happening now. Not gonna lie, Fringe hasn't always been great, but they always had a plan of where they were going.
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Fringe is the only thing I enjoy on television that isn't sports. I like it for the science/pseudo-science and because Anna Torv is a babe. No I'm not joking, she wears the hell out of those pants, who doesn't love a woman in uniform? I think it can survive this, not only that but my guess is they'll end up moving it yet again.
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Now if you'd only drop out of these talkbacks and stop your pathetic trolling.
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I love Fringe, why do they kill these great TV shows?
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Fringe today is quite different, true. But it started as FBI agents investigating the unknown under the watchful eye of a military-industrial complex they weren't sure whether to trust. That was the whole first season. A game for me is identifying he two or three XFiles episodes they combined into one Fringe ep. For example, "Tithounous" + "DPO" = "Power Hungry", or "Soft Light" + "Space" + "Trevor" = "Earthling"
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