Nov. 19, 2010, 7:40 a.m. CST
can't get here soon enough. and FIRST!!!
Nov. 19, 2010, 7:42 a.m. CST
very much..everyone looked constipated
Nov. 19, 2010, 7:43 a.m. CST
To me, the book seemed to have alot of waffle with endless scenes where the three of them are just sat in a tent arguing with each other. Out of all the books I felt this was one that might benefit from being streamlined but from the reviews I've read so far it looks like I'm going to be pleasantly surprised.
Nov. 19, 2010, 7:46 a.m. CST
...yeah? what were you expecting?
Nov. 19, 2010, 8:22 a.m. CST
something said in this movie that didn't make sense. Where can I post this question so people can remain spoiler free?
Nov. 19, 2010, 8:33 a.m. CST
Don't let the horny-for-profit motherfuckers get away with this shit - if it is only half a movie, I will only pay half the price, so I'm downloading this one and seeing the next one on the big screen..
Nov. 19, 2010, 8:33 a.m. CST
Nov. 19, 2010, 8:35 a.m. CST
Extending the series is obviously a Cash Grab attempt to squeeze as much money out of the fans as possible. You can't tell me that HP fans would not sit in the theater for 3-4 hours to see the final chapter? If CHOPPAH was a HP fan THE CHOPPAH would be pissed!
Nov. 19, 2010, 8:42 a.m. CST
It's just the three of them in the woods, camping. They blunder about, trying to work out what they should be doing next, with everything quickly dissolving into a badly concieved "fetch quest" for multiple McGuffins. At least they didn't have the "random people come close to the tent and allow important information to be overheard at exactly the right time" device that Rowling used multiple times in the book. But still. If they were going to be faithful to the text all of this crud was needed. It is nicely made, atmospheric crud, but storytelling crud none-the-less.
Nov. 19, 2010, 8:49 a.m. CST
It was good. But the fact that Del Toro directed has blinded all the AICN reviewers. You can talk about lensing or art direction all you want, but the fact is that Azkaban was good, but no better than a lot of the Potter films. In fact, the last two films were better and more enjoyable to the average film buff--by far.
Nov. 19, 2010, 8:57 a.m. CST
That way, it can be decoded easily enough, but no one is going to read it and accidentally spoil themselves.<br /><br />(Rot13 encoders are easy to find on the web. They make a into n, b into m, c into o, etc... Pushing each letter up the alphabet by 13 places.)<br /><br />example : <br /><br />Guvf vf n fcbvyre grkg.<br /><br />If I rot 13 that, it says<br /><br />This is a spoiler text.<br /><br />Easy, see?
Nov. 19, 2010, 8:59 a.m. CST
Fcbvyre dhrfgvba, nf V unira'g ernq gur obbx.<br />Jul jnf gur fjbeq va n evire, naq jul jnf Oryyngevk vafvfgvat vg unq orra fgbyra sebz ure inhyg?
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:01 a.m. CST
Yes, anyway you slice it you can argue that it's a cash move, but it's more than that. Fans of the series have complained that a lot of good material from the books was left out due to them not wanting nor being able to afford to make a 5 hour, $500 million movie. There is enough material in the 7th book, particularly the entire end sequence at Hogwarts that deserves serious screen time and an appropriate budget. By splitting it into 2 films they've been able to include just about everything in the first half (or probably 2/3) of the book, with any changes or omissions being pretty nit-picky. On top of that, I'm certain they're putting more effort (read 'MONEY') into what should be an absolutely epic second half for anyone who's read the book. I'm feeling Helms Deep & Pelennor Fields but with wizards. Having read the 7th book, hearing they were splitting up book 7 was about the best thing I could hope for. It would have been almost a waste of a decade of a terrific series to gloss over the end of book 7 in 20 minutes. So, yes, you could say it's a cash grab, but there are plenty of people glad that twice as much material is making to the screen, and frankly, what WB has done with the series, they deserve the dough. Went to a midnight showing last night. I thought the movie was pretty awesome.
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:02 a.m. CST
Thanks. <BR> <BR> Jul qvq Eba fnl gurer jrer guerr zber gb tb? Vs gurer ner frira, jbhyqa'g gung yrnir sbhe?
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST
Gurer'f 7. - Gbz Evqqyr Qvnel - gur Evat Qhzoyrqber unq - gur ybpxrg - vgrzf sebz gur 3 bs gur bevtvany urnqznfgref bs Ubtjnegf. Ur qvqa;g svaq gur fjbeq bs Telssvaqbe. - gur bar ur pnzr bhg bs jura ur jnf vavgvnyyl xvyyrq. V guvax gung'f ubj vg jbexf bhg.
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST
Easy: For 6 movies, HP fans have bitched about everything that's been left out of the books. Now, they have an opportunity to witness every campfire-cooked meal, every annoying "overhearing someone who just happens to be right outside the unfindable tent with the perfect piece of information," every time someone mumbles Latin for 10 minutes to protect the campsite, every bit of exposition that not only explains THIS movie, but all the crucial stuff left out of the other 6 movies, and all the CGI house-elves that everyone else will complain about. HP fans are paying another 10 bucks each to see that stuff. For them, it's a small price to pay. Honestly, I feel bad for parents taking younger kids to this, who might not get that it's been split, or really quite understand how gory, dark and grown-up this movie is.
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST
Sbhaq n dhvpx jnl bs qbvat vg! ;) - Lbh'yy svaq bhg yngre. - fbzrguvat ryfr jnf va Oryyngevk'f inhyg, V guvax n snxr fjbeq vs V erzrzore pbeerpgyl.
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST
I think Warners should have chopped Goblet of Fire into two parts because despite what people say this is the turning point of the series. People Die, Voldemort returns, it goes from whimsy to horror in one story. I liked the streamlined Order of the Phoenix, and nalf blood prince was not big enough to be two films but Goblet should have been and Deathly Hallows sure as hell should be too.
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:19 a.m. CST
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST
Jr xabj gurer jnf frira ubepehkrf. Gur xvqf guvax gurer jrer bayl fvk.
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST
Fgvyy qba'g trg vg. Svefg yrg zr fnl gung V unir abg ernq gur obbxf. Gurl xabj gung gurer ner frira. Jura Eba qrfgeblf gur ybpxrg, gung jnf bayl gur guveq bar (qvnel, evat, naq abj gur ybpxrg), fb jul jbhyq ur fnl guerr zber gb tb vafgrnq bs sbhe zber gb tb?
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:26 a.m. CST
I think you mean Alfonso Cuarón, not Del Toro, but other than that I heartily agree. Azkaban remains to me one of the most overrated fantasy films of all time. Sure, shot for shot it's much better directed than the first two, but it's strangely unsatisfying as an adaptation of what (next to Goblet) is probably Rowlings cleverest Potter book. Too many of the key moments from that story fall terribly flat and there are some quite baffling omissions that needed nothing more than a line of dialogue to fix.<p>Added to which both the direction and the beautiful production design is frequently undone by pieces of work that are obviously built around flashy shots rather than storytelling - the ridiculous pendulum of death in the entrance hall or the quidditch match that Harry is seemingly playing from a height of 10,000 ft immediately spring to mind.<p>I much preferred Mike Newell's gentler touch for 'The Goblet of Fire' - the first film to employ a director who really 'gets' the very English sensibilities of the series, but who also had the directing chops to match.
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST
I got the answer I gave you, from a wiki.<br /><br />Gurl qba'g xabj gurer ner frira. Gurl bayl xabj gurer ner fvk.<br /><br />Fcbvyre - Rira Ibyqrzbeg qbrfa'g xabj gurer ner frira. Gur friraguf rkvfgrapr vf erirnyrq va gur frpbaq cneg bs gur zbivr.
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:41 a.m. CST
Ibyqrzbeg zbfg qrsvargryl xabjf gurer ner frira. @Gurcbbuthl - Gur xvqf nffhzr gung gur friragu cvrpr vf Ibyqrzbeg uvzfrys.
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:43 a.m. CST
are different to the movie? Because according to the wiki (which is based on the book) my answer was correct.
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST
I haven't read the book in over a year. So I could be mistaken.
Nov. 19, 2010, 10:01 a.m. CST
by David Assholehoff
...when it comes to the Harry Potter franchise, I just can't latch onto the Hollywood nipple like you all obviously have. And I've tried. I really have. Rowlings' books were excreted to be intentional money-makers, the subject matter was cheaply ripped-off and as for the English sensibilities, it's just not present in American made movies. Potter reeks of the same horrid smell of the Caspian films, the Casper films, SpyKids/Sharkboy and Lavagirl, and The Polar Express. I just don't get it.
Nov. 19, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST
In funny hats?
Nov. 19, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST
and the english accents of the kids cover up how bad the acting really is to the rest of the world.
Nov. 19, 2010, 10:14 a.m. CST
The kicking the vag curse.
Nov. 19, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST
Waiting 'til next summer is just stupid. Sure, the books typically span a school year and end in Spring, but summer is the season for empty blockbuster trash. Make it a holiday event. The kind of event that might get more notice from the Academy, just as The Return of the King did.<p>Why cut the story off halfway and then let all the excitement and emotion from that moment die long before the final film arrives?<p>A two-film holiday season would have been an EVENT. Something unusual, that would be creating buzz for a couple months solid. Now, the final film will just be sandwiched between other blockbusters in the weeks preceding and following, and forgotten much more quickly. If they had released the final one in December, it would be more SPECIAL.
Nov. 19, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST
Part 1 in one theater, Part 2 in another. They'd make the same amount of money and we wouldn't have to wait. Jesus I have the best ideas.
Nov. 19, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST
by Damned if I can login
Films 4-6 were pretty good, but so truncated that they came off as extremely rushed.
Nov. 19, 2010, 11:43 a.m. CST
At least they pulled their heads out of their asses for this one.
Nov. 19, 2010, 12:01 p.m. CST
I will likely enjoy the hell out of this movie. Thanks for the heads-up, Damn_Dirty.
Nov. 19, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST
If you do hurl it, do so in my direction. No need to waste it.
Nov. 19, 2010, 1:40 p.m. CST
Who's a Pepper too?
Nov. 19, 2010, 2:14 p.m. CST
Now, if you could only drink Dr. Pepper out of Zooey Deschanel's sweet cunny hole, you'd be set.
Nov. 19, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST
Vg'f abg jryy rkcynvarq, be rira rkcynvarq ng nyy va gur svyzf, ohg ibyqrzbeg qbrfa'g perngr 7 ubepehkrf, ur fcyvgf uvf fbhy vagb 7. Gung zrnaf perngvat 6 ubepehkrf, rnpu jvgu bar cneg bs uvf fbhy, jvgu gur bgure cneg fgvyy va uvf obql. Gurer'f n gjvfg va gur arkg zbivr juvpu pbzcyvpngrf guvf, juvpu vf jurer gur jvxvcrqvn ragel pbashfrf guvatf, ohg V jbhyqa'g jbeel nobhg gung sbe abj!
Nov. 19, 2010, 10:56 p.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
...they couldn't have Part One on DVD/Blu before Part two was released. Release the DVD of Part One a month or so before Part Two and add a "free" movie ticket (i.e. worth about $7.50, which doesn't even cover an afternoon matinee these days) for the second half. Most Potter fans will buy/rent the DVD right before Part Two is released, so no worries about the momentum of the storytelling getting stunted.
Nov. 19, 2010, 11:40 p.m. CST
Most places around me (Detroit area) are $6 or less. Hell, even AMC theaters are $5 Monday through Thursday, even at night.
Nov. 20, 2010, 3:20 a.m. CST
IMO, The Goblet of Fire was the best. It was packed with ups and downs, they all balanced, the effects were spectacular (and still haven't been bested by ILM or anyone). It was the perfect explosion of detail for the middle of the Hogwarts mythos, and it cut the dead/darkness with some sex, color, and humor.
Nov. 20, 2010, 6:51 a.m. CST
by Nasty In The Pasty
Afternoon matinees around here are currently settling at a cool $8.50 (shooting up to an even $12 if the movie is in 3D). Only AMC theaters have $6 matinees...and that's only for showtimes before noon. I honestly haven't paid $7.50 or less for a matinee in at LEAST a decade.
Nov. 20, 2010, 10:36 a.m. CST
I'm with you: Goblet of Fire was the best all-round movie in the series. Which was interesting, because the book wasn't as good as Azkaban - it was where the bloat started to appear as Rowling became too powerful to be edited - but Newell did an excellent job with the material.
Nov. 20, 2010, 10:51 a.m. CST
Is simply the existence of the time travel device, and its casual use. Why in the world was Hermoine's little trinket not available in the remaining films? It sure could have saved whatshisnames life in Goblet.
Nov. 20, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST
When evry potter head has already read the book over a year ago. I understand they may want to see what they read but they all know the cliff hanker between the movies and know how the the story ends.
Nov. 20, 2010, 10:48 p.m. CST
And I'd have a slice of pizza to go with that too. YUM
Nov. 22, 2010, 1:37 p.m. CST
he still can't, as is pointed out here, handle the fantastic elements of the magic, which is still missing here. He also botched two more deaths (total four: Sirius, Dumbledore, Mad Eye & Hedwig). The Hedwig death is better than the book as it isn't an accident, but all 4 deaths I mentioned just kinda' happen. He, for reasons I cannot imagine, gives no real weight to the deaths in his films. It makes it even more confusing when he finally gets it right and handles Dobby's demise the way it should. I'm not saying they all needed a long, drawn-out mourning scene, but in DHpt.1 they need just... seconds more added to the film to give Mad Eye and Hedwig a proper send-off. DH works when the scene involves quiet tension, but the early scenes meant to show how bad things are with Voldemort gaining power are flat - especially the bad-guy table scene. Snape's entrance is great, the the group at the table seemed like a group at a table - it needed to be energetic, crackling with tension. Yates seems unable to do this.