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Big stuff happens this week, and the conflict between the survivors escalates most agreeably. And conflict is by no means limited to that generated by Merle Dixon's knife-toting brother. A bit more in invisotext:
The episode begins with Merle Dixon still alive and chained to that rooftop in the blazing Atlanta sun. Then things get noisier.
AMC says of tonight’s installment, “Tell It To The Frogs”:
Rick makes a decision to go back to Atlanta to retrieve the bag of guns and save a man's life. Lori and Shane must deal with the surprising return of someone they thought was dead.
If you haven’t heard, AMC has already ordered a second season.
How it compares to the other AMC original dramas: 18-49 finals (most recent first): (2.5) (2.7) The Walking Dead (0.8) (0.7) (0.6) (0.7) (0.7) (0.7) (0.6) (0.8) (0.7) (0.7) (0.8) (0.8) Mad Men (0.7) (0.5) (0.6) (0.5) (0.7) (0.7) (0.6) (0.7) (0.7) (0.6) (0.6) (0.7) (0.9) Breaking Bad (0.2) (0.3) (0.2) (0.2) (0.2) (0.2) (0.2) (0.4) (0.2) (0.2) (0.2) (0.3) Rubicon
“Walking Dead” remains cable’s highest-rated scripted drama and the highest-rated Sunday cable show of any stripe:
Sundays, Sept. 5 – Nov. 7, 2010 Sunday 18-49 finals (prior Sundays in parentheses; repeats in gray): 9.6 (----) (7.8) (----) (7.7) (----) (8.5) (10.5) (----) (----) CBS Football 7.4 (7.3) (9.8) (7.4) (6.7) (8.0) (7.3) (9.2) (9.6) (----) NBC Football 4.1 (3.5) (3.9) (3.9) (3.9) (4.4) (4.3) (----) (----) (----) Desperate Housewives 3.8 (----) (2.0) (----) (3.4) (4.0) (4.5) (2.4) (2.1) (1.8) Family Guy 3.7 (----) (1.7) (----) (3.0) (4.2) (3.7) (2.2) (2.9) (1.5) The Simpsons 3.3 (1.4) (3.4) (2.2) (3.7) (2.0) (3.1) (2.7) (1.0) (0.9) 60 Minutes 3.3 (2.6) (3.4) (3.5) (3.8) (3.4) (3.8) (----) (----) (----) Amazing Race 3.0 (----) (1.2) (----) (2.6) (3.1) (3.1) (----) (1.9) (1.4) Cleveland Show 2.9 (3.0) (3.5) (3.6) (3.7) (4.0) (3.8) (2.4) (1.3) (1.1) Undercover Boss 2.9 (----) (1.7) (----) (2.5) (3.0) (----) (----) (----) (----) American Dad 2.5 (1.8) (2.4) (2.3) (2.3) (2.6) (2.0) (1.4) (1.0) (0.9) Extreme Makeover 2.5 (2.3) (2.5) (2.6) (2.7) (3.0) (2.9) (----) (----) (----) Brothers & Sisters 2.5 (2.7) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) The Walking Dead 1.9 (----) (----) (----) (1.7) (----) (2.3) (1.4) (----) (1.0) The Simpsons (7:30) 1.6 (1.4) (1.8) (1.8) (1.5) (1.9) (----) (1.2) (1.4) (1.1) AFH Videos 1.5 (1.2) (1.2) (1.3) (1.1) (1.4) (1.5) (2.0) (----) (----) Boardwalk Empire 1.4 (----) (----) (----) (----) (0.8) (----) (----) (0.8) (----) Hannah Montana 1.4 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Real Housewives Atlanta 1.3 (----) (----) (0.9) (----) (1.2) (1.0) (0.9) (1.0) (0.9) Kendra 1.1 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Shake It Up 1.0 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Black Girls Rock 0.9 (0.8) (0.9) (0.9) (0.9) (0.8) (0.8) (----) (----) (----) Dexter 0.8 (0.7) (0.7) (0.9) (0.8) (0.8) (----) (----) (----) (----) Next Iron Chef 0.8 (0.7) (0.9) (0.7) (0.7) (1.0) (1.0) (----) (----) (----) Eastbound And Down 0.7 (0.8) (1.1) (0.8) (1.1) (1.2) (0.9) (1.2) (0.9) (----) Ice Road Truckers 0.7 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Married To Rock 0.5 (0.4) (----) (0.6) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Paranormal State 0.4 (0.3) (0.5) (0.4) (0.4) (0.6) (0.5) (----) (----) (----) Bored To Death 0.3 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Snapped 0.2 (0.5) (0.3) (0.3) (0.4) (0.4) (0.4) (0.6) (----) (----) Fantasia 0.2 (0.4) (0.4) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Football Wives
After tonight, three first-season episodes left.
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Am I...really...first? first!...I have waited so long...my life is complete. Great show - love it.
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for being first? I've never understood the whole "first" thing. I've had first posts on numerous articles but never made a big deal about it. Anyway, digging the series so far, I'm really curious to see if the conflict between Shane, Rick and Lori will be handled the same in the series as it is in the comic.
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And a whole bunch of of new actors I really love! <p> Sarah Wayne Callies, the new mother of my Zombie Kindergaren!
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I want to remain a virgin...but I will say that AMC needs to fast track Season 2...no way should we have to wait for Halloween 2011 for the new season...6 episodes is just a glorified mini series like Lonesome Dove and Roots
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isn't saying much. <p> First episode was "good" but had some serious pacing and edititorial problems and the second episode was absolute shit. <p> The third episode really has nowhere to go but up.
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I know it's on HBO, but it is a crime that Eastbound and Down doesn't pull higher numbers. That's some insanely funny stuff. Has season 3 been announced? Kenny F-ing Powers!
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No. Just no.
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if the living are already infected, destined to become zombies at death (unless shot in the head first)...and Merle is to die up on the roof from dehydration/heat/elements....then when they go to rescue him...is he gonna be a zombie? i'll bet $1
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even if it gets as 'bad' as maximum overdrive or something, i'll still be watching.
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Nov. 14, 2010, 7:47 a.m. CST
We'll see this week what impact Sunday Night Football has on rat
by InActionMan
Last week's game was a blow out. I bet a lot of people went looking for something else at 10pm. If this weeks game is good will TWD's numbers drop? <P> AMC pay attention to those 11p.m. and DVR numbers.
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Nov. 14, 2010, 8:04 a.m. CST
With this, BOARDWALK EMPIRE and SGU
by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS
I'm really enjoying television at the moment. I'd add FRINGE to the list but its lost some of my devotion this year with its alternate universe/out universe episode structure.
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The new characters are all terrible actors. Or maybe it's the cliched dialogue. Guess that's what happens when you go from Frank Darabont to some hack TV director I've never heard of. Same thing happened with Boardwalk Empire and Scorcese. I don't even bother watching that piece of shit anymore.
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Or am I reading it wrong?
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Didn't even look at the ratings.
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The other shows you list are quality, but SGU is complete shit. What gives? I only watch it because apart from sons of anarchy, its the only other thing on Tuesdays.<p>All the episodes appear to be pretty much interchangeable, aside from the 2 minutes of series plot progression. The show is not captivating in any sense of the word.
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Tonight bitches!!!!
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just because its a comic book show, or Boardwalk Empire just because of Scorsese or Winters or Van Patten or Buschemi or whatever. When the writings as cheesy, the characters are stereotype as this and for Boardwalk, the characters as uninteresting, as boring as they are, I guess they're trying to be subtle or something, but where Mad Men gets it right, these guys just get boring. Theres something to be said for not being subtle too, Eastbound and Down was pretty damn funny and Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia is of it's tits fuckin hilarious, and that show is far from subtle but also completely unpredictable as the characters have been well sketched as complete arrogant idiots who will happily throw each other under a bus. They are interesting, whereas the writing on this show is as dull as dishwater and very predictable. It shouldn't get such a pass as it is miles from the quality of the other output of AMC.
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Back during the premiere he said he thought both ep. 2 and 3 were better than the Darabont premiere. I mean how much credibility can you put in what he says-- is there ANYONE who thought 1.2 was better than 1.1?
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Can't wait until 10:00. With football, Dexter and The Walking Dead all on TV, I love Sundays.
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There wasn't nearly as much of a 'downgrade' from Scorcese's premiere to the subsequent episodes. You guys are smoking crack if you compare it to TWD. I mean there was barely a decent looking zombie in 1.2 (compare to the half-zombie in 1.1.)
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people flooding these boards being like "Where are the zombies?!?!", its already tedious and we are only 2 eps in. Those who have read the books know what I mean, there are entire story arcs with no zombies at all. The prison arc didnt have a single zombie for like 10 issues straight. Of course, TWD also has won Eisners out the wazoo, so who knows best? If you are expecting zombie apocalypto action every week, your going to be sorely disapointed.
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You can't expect every episode in a series to match the opener, I thought 1.2 was a great episode, it introduced more survivors, it introduced us to more 'laws' of this zombieverse, with sound AND smell attracting the hordes. Not every episode has to be balls to the wall gross out action/horror. Like the man said, if you amplify everything, we hear nothing.
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...it just seems like a cliche, cut and paste show. It feels generic with melodrama for the sake of melodrama. There doesn't seem to be anything original about it. I guess I'm still pissed about Deadwood ending.
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We should be celebrating that Geek and Nerd culture are turning mainstream, and that this show is actually pretty damn good. Who cares if one episode is better than the next, what we should be happy about is that the ratings are great, we get a second season, and that the quality all around this show is top notch. Seriously, stop bringing people down.
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There were people (granted, a very tiny minority) complaining afte ep 1. EP 1!!!! One of the best eps of any show I've seen this year. Some people are just bitter when something is popular, which this is. Some of the anecdotal stories I've heard about the enthusiasm for this series are off the charts.
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Waspo is 100% correct - we finally get (what seems to be) a faithful adoption of a tremendous comic, as a tv series to boot, and people want to complain? Get real. If you didn't have goosebumps as Rick and Glenn were walking amongst the zombies, just stop watching the show. Talk about swimming with sharks; even though I knew they'd survive, I was on the edge of my seat.<p>Are there minor complaints? Sure - zombies climbing fences, zombies appearing to run, walk by Rick and Glenn seemed to be much longer than viewed from the roof (and I didn't see any trees from the roof), how did the zombies know they were in the department store and why did (forget her name) blame Rick for being trapped, etc. But they're minor flaws. The show is about how humans interact with each while trying to survive zombie apocalypse, not just trying to survive as in the movies. For you doubters, just give it time. To quote MST 3K: Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show, I should really just relax."
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What's wrong with you America?
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about pacing, acting, characters,plot,blah fucking blah,etc etc. What the fuck is wrong with you haters? Opinions are great and all, but seriously, there's enough nerd rage in these boards to kick start the earth's core should it ever begin to cool down. Oh well. I'm sure all the angry fanboi's enjoyed the hell out of Skyline, and can't understand why no one else did.
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TWD is not faithful in the least to the comic it's more an adaption in spirit then literal translation.<p> I'm not saying that's a bad thing or that it's even possible or desirable to be totally "faithful" to the source material. 100% slavish devotion to the source material and you end up with Turdmen or The Gay porn version of 300.
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That was my problem with the second episode. We actually got so frustrated with it that I started chiming in and finishing people's sentences. Scary part is, I was right about 80% of the time. That says to me that the dialogue is a bit on the stale side.
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that was the highlight of last weeks show
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Stop fucking watching it. No one is holding a gun to your head. Unless they are. But that's besides the point. The point it is, stop watching something you don't like, and save yourself the trouble of having to turn on your computer, get online, go to AICN, sign in, find this thread, and post about how much you didn't like this show, but that you'll watch the next one hoping itll get better. Wow. Talk about abused spouse syndrom. Now where's my gun?
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I'd say these boards are rife with cliched, stereotypical nerds.
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err... where did I complain about the quantity of zombies? there were actually a lot more of them in 1.2 than the premiere. please work on your reading comprehension
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I'm a planty McPlant
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I checked out the comic and it's good outside of things like the start being "28 Days Later" pretty much verbatim. Aside from that it's made by all the human elements it brings to what could be a hack idea e.g. the thing last week with the dead guy's wallet. Long story short, I want to take this show behind a middle school and get it pregnant.
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Is to force them to watch reruns of Falcon Crest and More Happy Days, until their hearts grow cold with despair. Then, and only then will they be able to appreciate the simple pleasures of life, like TWD, the smile of a child, and microsoft XP.
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Was fucking awesome. But like I said, you can't expect some hack TV director to match theguy who did "The Shawshank Redemption".
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i like that british guy playing lincoln
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exactly. stating that 1.2 was not as good as the premiere does not make you a 'hater'. it means one actually has a brain. i love how everyone suddenly lowers their standards in zombie-like fashion just because it's genre.
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A SHOW THAT HAS NOTHING BUT BRAINS BEING SPLATTERD EVERYWHERE FOR A SOLID FUCKIN HOUR YAAAAAYY!!!!!!!! Christ those are the kinda people who can only get their rocks off by watching faces of death videos. Probly like torturing animals as well......morons. And as for boardwalk empire, Jesus, its a show about the START of gangland America trust me you freaks it gets nice and bloody so break out your Jergins and a box of tissues you sick wastes of Gods good flesh,your gore will come! Hey and if your lucky maybe they will show the gangland style execution of little children too!! ohhhhh fap ffap FAP FAP FAP !!!!
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The more fucked up the premise, the straighter you play it. The realism is what made the first episode so great. You could relate to all the characters. Especially the guy who couldn't shoot his wife in the head even though she was a zombie. Incredible scene. Perhaps someone can explain what in the second episode even came close to matching the power of that scene.
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Stop watching it! Stop hurting your gentle, fragile soul by forcing this show into your brain organ!
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Ijust figured out who all the people are who are bitchin about lack of zombies or zombie this and that are. Remember when the Sopranos was still really good and you tuned in each week to get a good story with great characters? Do you remember those assholes who only tuned in to see who was gettin wacked next?...... exactly.
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I want more scenes in which I can see the dilemma and wonder what I'd do in the same situation. Would I shoot my wife in the head if she was a zombie? That's interesting to me. Cliched bullshit involving white supremacists, not so much.
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chucks888! It doesn't meet YOUR epic standards of quality progamming!? UNFAIR! how dare they fail you! YOU! of all the people on the internets, they failed YOU sire! Please help them mend their ways, for they are but small, mindless swine who cannot meet your standards! Please save us from their inept ways! Write the next episodes of the TWD and post them on your fanfic site! Hail chucks888 King of the Internets!
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Dont worry, its two episodes in. Two.....episodes......in. I'm absolutely positive neither of you have read the comics, so dont worry, scenes in which "you can see the dilemma" make up pretty much 97% of the comic's storyline. Just keep repeating: its only 2 eps in.
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"There was barely a decent looking zombie in 1.2"......so clarify, what is your complaint, if you werent complaining about the quality? Your complaint was....you didnt like the zombie makeup? Really? Thats the big complaint?
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Bear McCreary, one of the really underrated composers working right now, does the music for The Walking Dead. If you're at all interested in the musical process you should check out his blog. He also wrote the music for BSG, The Sarah Connor Chronicles, and Human Target (although he isn't on for the second season). http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/
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You're right, It IS bullshit. Being a fellow Supremacist, I too know the pain of not being fully represented in the zombie television show genre. Drives me to tears. I was watching the show with my son last week. We were sitting on the couch, all toasty warm underneath grandmas nazi flag quilt (she knitted it herself) watching TWD. Then Dixon came on. My white god. My 5 year old son looked at me, tears in his eyes, and said "why poppa, why?" i wiped the tears away with my wife beater, and placed my hand on his freshly shaved head, and wanted to say something to console him. But the words...they just didn't come...sorry...getting a little choked up right now...anyway, we did a couple of shots of brown liquor, and that seemed to help.
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But then you'd have to spend way too much time and effort turning them into a long, unfunny story.
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THe minute its gonna be.oh hey honey I've been getting fucked in the ass by your ex partner who told me you was dead! Boy is she in for a surprise. LOL. And imagine when she sees hot blond survivor chick on his arm. Please don't let her be a bitch about it.
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You're "complaints" are purile. Stop watching the show. You'll never be pleased. Find some other outlet for your incessant whining. "I know a squealer when I see one, and that (points to garbageman33) is a squealer"
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more whiny crap.
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...Is the reason why people hate talkbacks.
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admit it, people. Full of cliches, bad acting and bad writing. And no, I haven´t read the comics, I´m judging the TV series for what it is, a TV series. I´m hoping it gets better, I´m a sucker for all things zombie.
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is the reason i LOVE talkbacks!
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wait, so people complaining about zombies climbing fences is fine, but the downgrade in zombie makeup/effects in a show about, i dunno... ZOMBIES isn't? heh this has nothing to do about being a fan of the books or not, or giving up on the series like that one tard suggests. noting a decline in quality between 1.1 and 1.2 is perfectly valid. it may be better tonight, who knows. as i mentioned in another talkback, the 1.2 director does not return for the rest of the series.
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You know what, AMC should cancel TWD. Right now. Just taken it into the woods, put a steel jacket in the back of its head. Because all the stereotypical fanboi's aim to tear this series down as fast as they can get their pudgy lil' fingers to pound their keyboards. Lets have nothing on tv but reruns of Law and Order.
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"noting" in your diary about a decline in quality on a tv show is very good.
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that you don't have the mental capacity to judge quality. ZOMBIE GOOD! I SEE ZOMBIE. IT MUST BE GOOD!
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LAW AND ORDER BAD! NO ZOMBIE!
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at that image of the poor white supremacist family. <p> My guess is that a lot of the bitching here is because of the representation of a white bigot. Newsflash people, there are white bigots in the South. This shouldn't surprise anyone. After all, us Northerners had to kick Southern ass to free the slaves, and the South still can't get over it. Hell, go look through a talk back about Will Smith and it should be painfully apparent that some people are racist. <p> It sounds like this episode is going to pose the question of whether you would risk your life to save a genuinely despicable person. This will be an interesting moral choice that will likely measure all subsequent choices the characters have to make from here on out.
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Eventually, something insightful or funny or in any way worth reading is bound to come out. Right? I mean, the law of averages is in your favor. Every post can't possibly be the equivalent of a 3-year-old making fart noises.
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Chuck you're so angry! It must be irritating to be so above it all! lol...ahhh. wanna make out?
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I must admit to some amazement at your comment that Rick's wife was "taking it up the butt" in the second episode. Uhm, no, she wasn't. And you just proved that you've never had sex in your life. Way to go!
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heheheh garbageman said "fart noises"
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See, that is what this show is all about. making tough moral choices when the rules of society no longer apply. But that seems to be lost on a few peeps that keep posting here. It's fine to not like something, even to hate it I guess. But why post your hate in a forum that's pro, not against?
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off of work, going mad because my Eagles don't play until tomorrow night... thankfully, Walking Dead to look forward to. Episode one was epic, episode two really kept it going and gives me the vibe that the strength of the writing is really going to give this series legs. they've crafted two really compelling shows out of only 3 or 4 issues of the book, so there's such a wealth of great material still to be explored. also kind of looking forward to "Boardwalk Empire," which I've stuck with, despite it being fairly slow-building. its starting to pick up steam, and the more screen time that Michael Stuhlbarg gets, the better show becomes. and Michael Shannon's character arc is taking a pretty interesting turn, too.
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INSIST that she was getting fucked anally just because she was flipped over. QUIT WATCHING SO MUCH PORN, fellas. It's all gonzo anal shit now.... actually have sex with a living, willing female 'doggy style'. it's quite nice. if you are hung anything over 3 inches, you CAN actually get vaginal penetration in that position. some of you guys astound me.
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I agree. On the surface level a zombie story is always interesting because of all the nasty zombies trying to eat people but beyond that it's fascinating because of how people are once society has broken down in a "Lord of the Flies" capacity. Who was part of high society before the plague went down and is now worthless while who was down on there luch and now ruler of the roost. Lots of cool stuff like that.
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I would probably get used to that. there are times in the comic book where they go 2 or 3 issues without showing a single zombie... its a character study that just so happens to take place in a zombie apocalypse. Obviously, I'd expect the TV adaptation to increase the amount of zombie screen-time for entertainment value, but yeah...
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i dont know about you but she took the hershey highway after only two pumps in the puss. now there is a character all girlfriends should model themselves by.
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Who the shit are they trying to kid? It was an ok story, but two hours of Sean Penn mugging to the camera only works if his character's name is Spicolli.
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Thats why I like these kinds of stories. Are people moral because they want to be, or because society tells them to be? Take away the rules of society, what happens? Plus, zombies = win
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AMC is airing the first 2 episodes starting at 8pm EST, so if you missed them, catch up tonight. This really is one of the best shows on TV! The characterization is so well done. This show has given the horror genre the respect it deserves, an intelligent, well-done, and yet, still action-packed, story. So glad it was picked up for season two.
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That is a catchphrase of epic proportions. Kudos sir!
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Or because society tells them to be. Take away the rules of society, what happens". Congratulations. You finally said something intelligent. Or did someone else post using your computer when you went to throw eggs at a retirement home bus?
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I knew you couldnt get enough of my tight ass!
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well observed and said.i agree.
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Yeah, there was obvious drop in quality when it came to dialogue, acting and editing. But what really pushed my buttons was the inconsistency with the lore established in the previous episode. Zombies climbing fences negates the whole prison arc and well zombies just don't.fucking.run.
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...the lack of clenched teeth and screaming indicates that she takes it in the ass very, very often. Like, porn-star often.<p> As the very least, the lack of clenched teeth and screaming would indicate that her boyfriend used a hell of a lot of lube. Is a jar of Anal Lube a common accessory during the Zombie Apocalypse?<p> I don't see ass-sex being so frequent in the middle of the Zombie Apocalypse that a) the men would carry lube around with them or b) the women would be so used to anal sex that they could do it roughly in the woods without screaming bloody murder.<p> Therefore, I decree that she didn't take it up the ass.<p> On the other hand, maybe I'm just bitter because her tits are so small, and I long for Barbarella's titties.<p> TITTIES!!!
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Nov. 14, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST
Finally! Someone agrees with me about the fence-climbing!!!
by Royston Lodge
I no longer feel so alone.
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...if birth control pills and condoms become scarce commodities during the Zombie Apocalypse, maybe ass sex becomes the primary method of birth control.<p> Plus, he'd want to do her from behind so he wouldn't have to look at her sorry-as-fuck beesting titties.<p> TITTIES!!!!
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...then maybe the comics are fucking terrible. I never thought an hour of a zombie TV show could be that bad. It was Sci-Fi Channel bad. Hopefully they do better tonight because this show can't get by on its premise forever.
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The entire comic book series. On issue 30 at the moment and i have to say this is one of the most satisfying reads i've ever experienced. I'm at the point where Rick is being held prisoner by the Governor and i keep finding that i'm pretty uncomfortable in carrying on sometimes due to the fact i have absolutely no idea whats going to happen and how it seems everyone is expendable.
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Frak'n awesome http://io9.com/5689376/the-walking-disaster
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Them having violent sex in the woods was just so out of nowhere. I get it - push the envelope. Give the audience sex and violence, but I feel like that story line cheapens the show. And for christ sake, why hasn't the main dude asked what the date is and how this shit happened? Those are my two qualms with the show.
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You don't need lube to get in a woman's ass raw. It'll hurt for her but if she's into it on some s&m tip, why not... Besides when Rick finds out then the violence starts.LOL
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Wow. SyFy channel bad? really. Second ep in and you declare it "sci-fi channel bad" I think it pretty obvious that you haven't a clue as to what the FUCK you're talking about. Did you see the ButtHurt wagon rolling by and decide to hitch a ride? explain what was bad. Otherwise, you're just another nerdling who hates things because they're popular.
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You aint seen nothing yet.....NOTHING..........NADA. If you think everyone is expendable now, wait til issue 48.
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The comics have won every award there is, and are amongst the most widely beloved books of the decade, soooo.......
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Only those without an imagination believe that she didn't
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where's the hater circle jerk coming from? "yeah drop in quality, yeah drop in quality, yeah drop in quality" what the fuck are you people smoking? what "drop in quality? The production values are huge, the acting is great, the plot is great,they brought in ROOKER. ROOKER! seriously, WTF? ITS A SHOW ABOUT ZOMBIES! what? does it need to be even more "Gritty"?! how do you get anymore fucking gritty than a re-animated corpse that eats people? hahah! How heroin suppositories are shoved up your asses right now? for the love of Benji! I don't think i've ever seen this much Nerd Sign since i watched the porno where Steve Urkel fucks a Sandworm!
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For the gentleman who wishs to avoid procreation.
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you sound retarded
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Nov. 14, 2010, 5:13 p.m. CST
RedBull: It's my imagination that makes be think they didn't!!!
by Royston Lodge
The circumstances and her lack of reaction really point away from her getting a sharp stab in the poop shoot!<p> Plus, imagine how fucking DIRTY that ass must be after she's been living like an animal out in the wilderness with no hot water for so long.<p> If he fucked her in the ass, it means he's REALLY FUCKING OBSESSIVE about ass sex!<p> If it was me, I'd take one look at her dirty, sweaty, pimply ass-crack with the brown slime oozing out (cuz they JUST ran out of toilet paper) and I'd say, "you know what baby, why don't we do it front-to-front for a change. It's, uh, more romantic that way, ya know?"<p> That scene is less sexy than the idea of two dirty, sweaty, unbathed cowboys, surrounded by tonnes of cow shit, ass fucking in a tent in Montana.<p> I don't care how gay they are, they'd have to be seriously perverted to have ass sex under those conditions!!!!<p> EEeeeeeewwwwwwwwww......
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Get it? GET IT?!?!<p> Gosh, I'm funny...
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Yeah it is not great, but the money wasn't there to bring in real talent. It is the same thing on Mad Men, where Jon Hamm is surrounded by the likes of January Jones, Christina Hendricks and Jessica Pare who are more known for their ample chests than their acting ability. Who casts that show? Russ Meyer? Anyway it is up to the lead to still keep the show elevated and moving forward.. Jon Hamm does it and I think Andrew Lincoln can do it as well.
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John Slattery, Elizabeth Moss, Jared Harris, Rich Sommer, Vincent Kartheiser, Robert Morse, Bryan Batt, Mark Moses, etc...<p> There's plenty of acting talent on that show.
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after his accolades for that piece of shit, THe Event, why should anyone believe him when it comes to a true piece of art like the walking dead?<p>and how the fuck can anyone question rules of zombieism? rules that were set forward by the great romero himself<p>note...some zombies can scale fences, some can climb, some can use tools...all of them enjoy the taste of human flesh over animale...all of them can tell the difference between the dead and living...they can see, smell, hear and react based on residual memories stored in their fucked up brains<P>EITHER SIT BACK AND ENJOY A GOOD SHOW, OR STEP THE FUCK OFF
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on the entire situation<p> read the comic...kirkman throws out a bunch of black humor...
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Yes, episode 1.2 was SyFy channel bad. It was fucking terrible. The dialogue sucked, the acting sucked, the plot was bad, and (most importantly) the new characters were all terrible. The editing might have been the worst I can remember on a TV show: the black guy was there wearing a jackets and gloves when they were chopping up the body but when they went back to the roof, he was already up there in the exact same spot as before in his clothes from before. What the fuck was that? They've even handled a major character like Friendly's wife horribly. So far her only personality trait is that she likes to sneak off and have sex with her husband's partner, presumably just a couple weeks after everyone thought he died. Why is she on the show now at all? Wouldn't it add more tension if we didn't see the wife and son until Friendly does? Whatever. Look, I loved the first episode, but last week's was a total train wreck.
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I don't watch TV anymore. Now, where's the Invincible TV series?
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Is that the wife and son? I guess they didn't say their names enough to make an impression.
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Even if I was curious about the show, after watching that clip I've lost interest.
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Nov. 14, 2010, 7:05 p.m. CST
You think they'll have to run from some zombies this week?
by Subtitles_Off
A twenty-minute premise stretched into TWO (?) seasons. Hopefully, the characters begin to grow beyond their flatness this week, or I am outta here. I want more s#!t along the lines of Episode One's last few minutes and much, much, much less of The Racist White Guy s#!t of Episode Two. (I am, however, hoping to see Racist White Guy chew his own arm off, trapped-wolf-style.)
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That should be the scientific test to determine one's level of nerd infection.<P>If you have to Google "Rooker," like myself, you can still walk about other, non-nerd humans, and they won't be able to tell. <P> If you even know who or what "Rooker" is, you might need a prescription against nerd before it becomes inflamed.<P>If you write about that s#!t in explanation-pointed all-caps, you are terminal.
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greater than it's premiere. Walking Dead may possibly have some too. <p> But as it stands right now, Episode 2 was shittier than the premiere and only had a few good moments. Also fuck Fringe and SGU. wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
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"Wot am I gonna do now, wit all this squirrel?"<P>"Tell It To The Frogs"<P>ribbit, ribbit, ribbit
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you're gonna need us a lot sooner before the cooling of the earth's core, now that we got Tea-Baggers running around, thinking they own the place.<P>You can call me a nerd again and get hand-cuffed to pipe, or you can come on over to the fire for some fresh squirrel. Later, we gonna have conversation with the frogs, so you won't have to associate with the fanboys that much, iff'n you don't wanna.
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ribbit, ribbit, ribbit<P>"Look out! Zombies! Save us with your macho bullshit, Mr. Ex-Policeman hero-guy," says Old Dude in Old Dude Hat.<P>"I know he weren't nuffin' to look at, but he was my brutha, y'all," says Slightly More Community-Oriented Racist White Trash while licking a squirrel-kabob.<P>"What happened to the interesting father and son from the premiere episode," says Wife Who Got All Horny Thinking Her Husband Was Dead. "I say we go back and get THEM, instead."<P>"Didn't any of you people hear me?!!? Zombies!"
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I got the Surprise on Veterans Day. I thought "Oh no, I got Zombea Arthurs prize by mistake" <P> First thing I pulled out of that tube was the letter. Wow! All of you guys seriously- I love it. I'm beyond shocked and humbled. Thank you so much.
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It's only 3 episodes in, so odds are, yeah, each one's going to be the "best so far" for awhile.
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Nov. 14, 2010, 8:43 p.m. CST
I hope he bangs the hot blonde he found in the store 2nd episode
by Mike_D
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screams The Sister When She Gets Her Mermaid Necklace."<P>"That's all well and good, but how does that help us against ZOMBIES? Enthusiasm is just the opposite of Nerd-Rage on the useless spectrum, people!" The Old Dude in The Old Dude Hat is getting annoying, Why is he always on top of that damn trailer, adjusting his old radio. If Old Dude hadn't been such a knee-jerk against wireless!<P>"Mom, how come Daddy gotta stay in his own tent?" asks Grinning, Inconsequential Moppet.<P>"I've got, like, the coolest car of anybody left on the planet!" says Kid With Sports Car.<P>"Who voted you in charge?" asks The Other Ex-Cop Who Always Just Assumed He Was In Charge, 'Cause He's An Ex-Cop.<P>"We're gonna have to work TOGETHER, people! Now, do what I say," says The Other Ex-Cop Who Always Just Assumed He Was In Charge, 'Cause He's An Ex-Cop.<P>"I am NOT rubbing myself in zombie guts!" says Sexy Chick.<P>ribbit, ribbit, ribbit, say the frogs
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He's with The Men Holding Guns, Sauntering. You just gotta look quick.<P>
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There hasn't been an unzombied little girl dude. That means, when he grows up, he's going to have to do it with zombie girls, go gay, or go celibate.<P>That's a lot of the joy sucked straight out of a Moppet's life.<P>Scripters, we need an unzombied Girl Moppet, stat!
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as far we know- they really believed Rick to be dead for 2 months. Lori and Shane were friends first through Rick, and look what is going on around their ears. They needed each other at this time, they were comfortable with one another from their previous history. We didn't see how this all came about. I think the tent scene did a good job of showing Lori's guilt, and of course Shane is not happy about it, and maybe with himself somewhat. It's a strange guilt. One person has their partner back and the other has lost the relationship they became accustomed to in that kind of world with fewer opportunities, and not only that at some point this transgression will be known, and that's going to be some serious pain for all of them. <P> Shane already protected Rick when Daryl tried to attack him. Lots of mixed emotions going on here. Speaking of Daryl, hope he washes that recollected arrow he shot into that decapitated zombies head.
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just going back for cracker Merle. Good job, show.
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the show just blew it with the protagonist going back to atlanta. are they serious with this crap? whats the point of wasting twenty minutes establishing how close this guy is with his family if you're gonna have him throw it all away for a racist ahole ten minutes later-over the objections of his wife and son?
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because it was the right thing to do for the sanctity and strenght of the group, because guilt sucks, and maybe if they save Merle, maybe he will shed that ignorant racism issue he has. T-Dog is coming back and so is Rick, that's as good as "Sorry"
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pay back a debt to the father & son that saved Grimey after the hospital. He needs the walkie in the bag of guns to do it. Jesus, they spent 5 minutes explaining it.
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Nov. 14, 2010, 9:54 p.m. CST
First ep was good, but this shit is so stereotyped
by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes
and predictable ill bet it flames out quick, and i truly hate watching amc commercials
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its getting worse each week. And can't this idiot take off the badge and uniform? I would slit his throat or throw him to the zombies just for continuing to wear that shit.
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Shane lied...
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Nov. 14, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST
I miss my vibrator??? Yeah some fantastic writing going on here!
by HollywoodHellraiser
You think she can't open her legs and get some free dick!<p>Oh Rick's wife a fucking bitch but thats nothing new!
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the character's stupidity in this show is fairly accurate
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Two racists and a guy who beats women. Terrific.
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Changing. Damn...
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Nov. 14, 2010, 10:01 p.m. CST
Herc that last shot was better than the "key dropping"!
by HollywoodHellraiser
You know the one you thought was the "bees knees" last week!
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Nov. 14, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST
Seriously, would a saw off hand look that clean?
by HollywoodHellraiser
And blood just on the cuffs? I bleed more when I got my wisdom pulled!
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Seems he has no problem telling people their loved ones are dead when they aren't. Please tell me he becomes zombie food at some point.
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as a tourniquet around his arm before sawing. Tying off would also help to numb up that area before sawing off.
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Yup.
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Nope.
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Slightly better than the pilot and infinitely better than the steaming-pile that was episode #2. <p> Why would merle cut off his hand instead of the extremely small, rusty metal rod that he was cuffed too?
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If you didn't think he cut off his hand, obviously you never saw Mad Max. To be fair, this episode was much better than the last one. But nowhere close to the premiere.
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But Matt already said it. We should just bitch this show out as much as possible so that AMC cancels it and we can just have Law and Order marathons all. fucking. day. You guys fucking disgust me sometimes. This show is fucking MADE to appeal to you and you still shit on it. Did anybody ACTUALLY WATCH IT TONIGHT? The scene where Rick is reunited with his family is fucking Emmy-worthy. Honestly, tonight's was spot-on. If you're shitting on this show, congratulations. Your fanboy card has just been revoked.
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Two months? Two months, dude?<P>It's not like they're teenagers. Granted, I know, it was established that there was generic trouble in the generic marriage between the generic couple in the plot, and we gotta have DUH-rama to keep a series about zombies chugging. But, that ain't flying. Bitch is a bitch. Ex-Cop dude #2 ain't no kind of sidekick. Fukk those two, quickly.
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Here's Ex-Cop #2 and Locket-less Bitch.<P>Want fries wit' dat?
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This isn't new. The people who wrote the adaptation of this show didn't make up that plotline. It's straight from the comic. They were fooling around in the comic before Rick returns.
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Shane going off on Ed, while predictable, was fucking badass. The last ten minutes as a whole were, really.
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... three episodes in and it's already INFINITELY better than the critically-acclaimed Mad Men. Besides Boardwalk Empire, there's no better show on Sundays... (speaking of Boardwalk... there's about to be a threeway!!!)
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why did he go for the hand instead of the chain? that was a hacksaw right? would it take longer to go through bone than metal?
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You just keep filling in the character clichés and make them work, dammit!<P>If that sounds like an attack, it ain't. Good on ya!<P>"Racist Guy might drop his racist ways if they come back for him." THAT, my peeps, is first-rate Glass-Half-full Positivity. I am honestly envious.<P>I don't care if this show gets "MichaelBay'sUnwashedAsshole" bad. I am not going to hate on it anymore, outta respect for The Judger! And all y'all gonna suck some squirrel if'n yas just don't sit back n' let it be.<P>ribbit, ribbit, ribbit
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gotten drunk in your bathrobe with a Law&Order marathon.<P>Don't hate on things you know nothing about!
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I'm drunkish, and I wanna watch it.
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Nov. 14, 2010, 10:26 p.m. CST
so, blagyver, lemme see if i understand what you are saying
by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes
if a show is shit, but aimed at a certain demographic that demographic should love it no matter how shitty it is because it was aimed at them? what defuck are you smokin? and it aint like there has been a lack of zombie oriented movies lately. zombies are only second to homo vampires in popularity these days
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I love how people on this board are bitching about shit on the show and its obvious that they weren't even paying attention. One guy is bitching about them going back for Merle. Did you not hear Grimes mention the bag full of guns? Or the walkie talkie he needs to communicate with the father and son that saved him also being in that bag? This show fucking rocks, if you don't like it, I respect your opinion but don't deny that it is very well acted, well written and better than just about anything else on the tube right now.
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2 months in an apocalyptic world + the unknown amount of time Rick was in the hospital after he was shot. That's how long Shane has been a "Big" part of Lori's life, as a supporting friend, and that time changed Shane and it changed her, and Shane lied because he wanted more, and she trusted him and why wouldn't she. <P> How long was Rick in the hospital after he was shot, before the plague of the walking dead.
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I must have missed it somehow. Dammit!
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not does it look cheap and have crappy SFX, and lets not mention the shitty acting, but they also have the audacity to include a 28 Days Later score ripoff this episode? at least when Highschool of the Dead ripped it off it was with style!
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wankstain!<p> all lowercase
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was the code
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yeah it is cool seeing zombies on tv - even with commercials, but this show plays to so many ass hole stereotypes that it becomes laughable, maybe if enough criticism is leveled the writers will up their game -but i kinda doubt it
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I like to nitpick but, fuck. Its been said upthread but, do you really want to go back to TV where every show is: Doctors, Lawyers, Cops, lather rinse, repeat? <P> Stressed people with no authority are going to do some very fucked up illogical things. <P> There is no zombie rule book not even "Zombie Survival Guide". if the producers decide that zombies can sprout wings and fly you have two choices: A Go With It. B Stop Watching.
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But wasn't that the code last week?
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Agreed. <p></p> It's like some people have to bitch no matter what. <p></p> Would you all prefer we go back to the days when there were NO ZOMBIE SHOWS WHATSOEVER. Yeah, I really miss those days...
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Seriously, Judger, bro. You are my new hero!<P>See? I'd've called the dude a horny opportunistic prick.<P>I sure hope, if I'm ever in a coma, I have a co-worker who steps right up and sticks his penis in my wife instead of coming to check on my coma-ass. When the zombiepocalypse happens, I mean. THAT'S a friend!
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maybe they will reshow it. Now I'm not sure.
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We are well-past "ripping off 28 DAYS LATER", aren't we?<P>I mean, since, like, ten minutes in?
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Yeah you're right, thanks. I guess this makes us even?
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It's called "having an opinion," you little fairies.<P>There isn't anything so precious and shiny and perfect it can't get mocked when it's over-hyped. Deal with it.
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im just waiting for zombified Begbie to go running by. 'nae cunt leaves her until brrrraaaaiiiinnnnnsssss.....'
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would you care to elaborate on what you expected to see?<p>all we get is the fx sux (not sure what extra fx there should be other than zombie makeup and guts)<p>"the show looks cheap" ya, lets have a post apocalyptic world all gussied up...and lets remember, this is amc, show doesnt have the biggest budget in the world<P>what im getting is that you just dont like the whole premise...thats fine...but just say that
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Any idiot can have an opinion. You've proven that. <p></p> Doesn't mean the rest of us have to give a shit what you think. Deal with it.
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and let's give "Merle" a hand for his fine performance this week
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Nov. 14, 2010, 10:47 p.m. CST
Illegaltouching, I would've gone for the chains!
by HollywoodHellraiser
I think Merle sawing through his wrist was unnecessary! However its clear Merle was going nuts before that scene, so he can only blame himself for losing his hand!<p>If he had the time to saw through his wrist, he certainly had time to go for the chain on the cuff, IMO!
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this is what mad men and sons of anarchy are like. people say theyre great but I bet they suck dick. bring back californication and justified already.
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I meant in quality. This show is made with love for the source material and is executed well, but I guess all the talkbackers need something to bitch about now that it's catching on with popularity.
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They were sad days. Tumble-weeds blew through deserted towns. Children wept, all the time. Even while skipping rope. Friends stuck their penises into other friend's wife's vaginas, without even second-thinking, all the time. The idiot people stared at their TV sets filled with doctors, lawyers, gay high school kids and football players, all the time. <P>They knew they were unhappy. Oh, how they yearned. None of them really knew it, though. The angst had no real form. No one could quite articulate why they were so unhappy.<P>Then, one day. Oh, it was a great day.<P>The world changed.<P>ribbit, ribbit, ribbit
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Nov. 14, 2010, 10:51 p.m. CST
its boring and full of cliche dialogue
by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost
i thought it would be awesome, but the drama isnt working.
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I respect Mad Men even though I don't personally ccare for it (find it very slow). But don't start on Sons of Anarchy. That's good shit right there.
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and add another CSI damnit!
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And you all know it.
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its not too dark or edgy, its bland and tries too hard with the tension bits. a white racist guy? seriously? SGU a show that gets barely a million views is miles ahead of this.
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Nov. 14, 2010, 10:58 p.m. CST
I'm sorry but Mad Men and SON certainly DO NOT SUCK!
by HollywoodHellraiser
The Walking Dead is a decent show because it different, but will people be saying that if it goes 3 seasons?<p>How long can a premise like this last with the masses until fans truly get bored?<p>Right now I'm enjoying the show but if the NEW Sherlock Holmes mini was on, I would've taken in the 2nd showing of TWD instead!
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that doesnt make it good though.
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Hell of an episode tonight. <p></p> The last three should be a lot of fun.
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Nov. 14, 2010, 11 p.m. CST
lock67ca ----- its not better than Stargate Universe tbh
by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost
And i didnt even have high expectations. its basically all used zombie storylines from movies but in slowmo
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people who really like CSI?<P>I dunno, mebbe he is. I've never watched CSI, either. Is it about a bunch of cops who solve crimes while sticking their penises into their co-worker's wife's vagina?<P>I said I wasn't going to hate no more, out of respect and admiration for my new hero, TheJudger, but, truly: doctors, lawyers, CSI-techies, and guys running from zombies. How, exactly, are they all that different?<P>Newsflash: Zombies haven't been special for at least thirty years.
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Survival was week 1 Hungry was week 2 I thought I saw "Survivor" but some google fu says it's "Fever" <P> anyone know for sure?
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no vagine tonight though, wtf?
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my bad
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For you naysayers who think it's too dull or not dark/edgy enough, just stick with it into season 2. If they continue to follow the storylines of the comics as well as they have been, then there's some crazy stuff coming up in season 2 and beyond. This first season is mainly just a taste of things to come and to introduce some of the major characters throughout the story.
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why?
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Damn you screwed me with that wrong secret code. <p></p> You still owe me, bastage.
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I wanted that shirt so bad, and now it's here, as well as something else. Hope you entered "Fever" I got to caught up in the talkbacks and messed up, I would be bummed out if you entered the wrong code.
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no self respecting black guy calls himself T-Dawg. Thats a nickname white coworkers arbitrarily give you at work. . . "Hey T-dawg!" *shotgun fingers*
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the wrong code. Oh well that's life. I enjoyed the episode so that's something, right? Right????
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the Dawn remake when Andy holds up the sign up to show Kenneth and it's smeared in blood. Damn I feel awful now.
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Both are damn good shows. I prefer Mad Men though. I really dig The Walking Dead. I have no complaints.
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"it's already INFINITELY better than the critically-acclaimed Mad Men." Are you fucking kidding me? It was more interesting watching Don Draper take his kids to DisneyLand than it is watching these boring non-characters try to survive in a world full of zombies.
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from Dawn of the Dead, for I am now dead inside.
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they need to show people getting killed...people we might care about so we can see that there is something at stake. IMO
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But since I've been prized. I'm not sure how much people trust my opinions. Doesnt matter. I know what I like and I like this show, and I know I'd still be here even if I lost that contest. I was in the forum for the pilot. No swag in hand then. I got so much hope for this show as a long running series.
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The show needs to have some people we might care about because it can kill anyone we care about.
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For TWO MONTHS, with no food or water being given to him, while he was in a coma??? Anyone? Anyone??
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And I like the comics, which I feel are even better. I could nitpick it here and there, but it's good and I'm excited to see where it's going. Why do so many people have to be haters?
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No sex life maybe?
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I figure that, at most, he oculd've only survived about 1-2 weeks without fluids and in a rank diaper that would cause him really nasty, life threatening bed sores. By my best guess it was maybe 1 week after zombies until the hospital got overrun, then Rick woke up after a week or two, and probably took about 2 weeks to get to ATL. Very little time for his wife to be so happily shacking up with Shane.
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(except that one douche who thinks they should have been given diamond encrusted oscars for 2 episodes of show so far) improvement over 1.2. actually i'm glad they've made shane kinda likable (might be just me though). he's been pretty one note up til now. seems like he genuinely loves the kid (though kinda messed up depending on your perspective) and he beat the pulp out of that other insanely one dimensional wife beater
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We don't know when the hospital was abandoned. That area looks like it was a heavily militarised safezone for a period of time. There were lots of abandoned military stuff around and the dead bodies were covered with sheets. We don't know how long Rick was alone in the hospital- certainly not 2 months.
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I liked the early ones, but they get so much better as more interesting characters are introduced and the ones we've just met get fleshed out/eaten for their flesh. Stick with it. It's worth it!
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I'm glad they're not just making Shane into an unlikeable douche in this. He's a guy who's always had a thing for Lori, had established himself as leader, cares for Carl, and finally got everything he always wanted. Then his best friend, a guy he genuinely cared for, turns out to not have been dead and he's suddenly the bad guy because SHE feels guilty. We all know what's coming, but Shane finally got a chance in this episode to show he's a 3 dimensional character.
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So I guess maybe 1-2 months since Z-Day, but I still stand by the notion that it's been less than 1 month since the hospital was abandoned with Rick inside, when everyone would've given him up for dead. Notice it's still warm and summery, just like it was when Rick got shot. So the earliest that would've happened was April-ish and it's Sept. at the latest now. I'm thinking 6 months at most since Rick's shooting, 5 months at most since Z outbreak, and 1 month since the hospital was abandoned.
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But it's not in a "oh, don't you just have to HATE this guy" sort of way. He's a bit of a bully, and is cold and emotionally tone deaf, but he's not really evil. In Episode 2 they were writing him as if they might go "full douche" with him. You never go full douche.
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If there isn't a meth cooking scene, a lot of folks think BB is boring. I anticipate a similar reaction to TWD episodes without lots of zombie killin'.
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Please give it a rest with all that Stargate Universe yabbajabba in practically every talkback. Nobody cares, and that show is the epitome of snore inducing shit.
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you fucking lying retard. They didn't "fool around in the comic". There was one night alluded to where she made a mistake...a lot different than what has been in the show.
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the show was awesome. fuck the haters. the reunion between the ho wife and rick was awesome and the kid. that was very endearing i felt it. ED was an asshole who deserved to get his ass kicked. Going back for merle was responsibly the just thing to do. It wasnt the smartest thing. but it was redeeming... Never leave a man behind or whatnot. And damn Glenn's suped up challenger stripped for parts? WTF i would have went crazy!!! That challenger would have held up longer than them old rust bukcets and your taking the radiators and the gas! Nooooooooooooooooooo! I wish people will stop hating on this show! it's off the chain. Wonder if they will meet any military personel?
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Nov. 15, 2010, 1:33 a.m. CST
Well its a zombie show and people are expecting zombies!
by HollywoodHellraiser
I know the comics might indulge more but wen you're dealing with tv than its a different media!<p>You can't expect the characters to take precedence over the zombies or you'll have LOST: Final Season!
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had nothing to do with a sense of justice or outrage at Ed beating a woman. Shane simply was losing control this entire episode and went overboard in the end, establishing dominance. He's a douche, but as others have said, I don't hate him. And we don't know the whole story on the "you told me he was dead!" thing.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 1:50 a.m. CST
Also the complaints on this talkback are seriously reaching
by MattmanReturns
It's like some of you are just looking for things to complain about. This show has been all around excellent so far.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 2:01 a.m. CST
Shane shoots Zoolander Richard Gere douche rays at the screen
by drturing
BEWWWWWZZZZ!
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a weekly tv show about the zombie apocalypse with badass gore effects and people acting at least like normal people instead of superheroes? wtf dude not every epsiode is going to be perfect, but this shit is amazing for tv. 1.2 had some really bad moments, yeah, but hopefully that eps director wont be back. but 1.1 was nigh on perfect, wtf was wrong with the pace of it?
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that Lori was possibly cheating on Rick. It was the 2nd scene of the show. In 1.2 we found out who it was with, and now we know that Shane lied to her and pretty much fucked both her and Rick. I agree with a poster from above that he wasn't necassarely in the hospital for 2 months uncared for, just in the hospital for 2 months. All the shit we see in there could've happened the day before. As I recall in 1.1 Duane explained that no one knew what happened. So we really don't need Rick fucking asking everyone he sees for some lengthy exposition about some fucking virus or military experiment or whatever. It's a mystery so get over it. It's better that way. Why did Merle saw his hand off instead of just cutting the chain? Seriously? Because he went fucking crazy. I thought that much was pretty obvious.
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and a step up from last weeks episode. <p> This one had more 'pep' in it, for sure. My take is...Ed picked the WRONG day to assert himself with the ladies at the quary. Shane just got told to go fuck himself by the woman (and, hence, son) he's been imagining himself starting a life with in this crazy new world. Probably has had his eye on her long before Rick's coma. The zombie outbreak gave him a chance to seize that opportunity... Take them to Atlanta...where it was suppose to be "safe"... and step into Rick's life. <p> We don't know...perhaps he showed up at the hospital to try and grab Rick...but soon realized it was infested with Zombies...so he wrote Rick off as a goner, without making sure. He grabbed Lori and kid...told 'em he was "dead" and then started drivin...later...thinkin about a possible future with them. I don't think he "intentionally" lied about Rick's demise...I think he "assumed the worst". He damn sure wasn't going back to find out for sure. (Something he couldn't understand why Rick was doing in THIS episode). <p> I didn't get the feeling he and Rick's wife had been bumping uglies very long...they definitely were still tryin to keep it a secret from everyone. My guess is that Shane was just startin to fall in love with her...and was having fun playin "Daddy" to Carl. <p> When Lori called him on it this episode...he was devastated...and Ed was in the wrong place at the wrong time... and the ass beating insued. I didn't see it at all as a "dominance" ploy. I was seeing his motivations as being less "douchebaggy" and more as a guy in a fucked up world tryin to retain some semblance of normalcy... having someone that needed him...a family to look out for. I also think he was disgusted with himself that he didn't do more to save his "best friend" from that hospital before fleeing town. But when zombies are spreading like wildfire all around you...you might do some stupid shit... or, worse, become a selfish coward... <p> I think Shane was letting that shit out on Ed's fat, mysogynistic melon head more than anything else. Or... Shane is a just a douchebag. I think it's too early in the story to tell. But it looks like he's gonna have a new love interest to protect soon in Andrea anyways. That was MORE than a fleeting glance they shared after the beat down. <p> My biggest prob with tonight's episode? I knew Dixon was not gonna be there when they got back to that rooftop. I knew all they'd find was a hand and a hacksaw. Telegraphed. I kind wish they'd not shown him freakin out and attracting the Walkers. I wish they left his desperation in the dark at the beginning of the episode... and instead... Jump cut back and forth between Shane punching Ed's face, to Merle on the roof losing his mind and doing the unthinkable... back and forth... Shanes fists flying... back to Dixon sawing and screaming his lungs out in agony... screams we never hear over that awesome music they played as the rescue team ascended that stairwell. <p> As it was... That whole journey back to ATL was robbed of any real suspense for me... cuz I knew what was coming (I have never read the graphic novel, btw). The big "surprise" was lost on me. <p> Speaking of which... Say what you will about LOST, HollywoodHellraiser... They definitely knew how NOT to telegraph shit on that show. And I remember some of those episodes that really blew my socks off where the ones where they intercut things happening on the island now...with things that were happening in flashback to VERY moving and pwerful effect. <p> LOST earned those "POOM" endings. Tonite's Walking Dead... did not.
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really need to watch something other than The Walking Dead. Perhaps, the Sarah Palin show is better for all fucktards who are bitching and moaning about this series. Three episodes in and this is one of the greatest single pieces of modern horror ever and you fucks are complaining like a bunch of retarded cunts. Episode 2 is shit you say? What fucking planet are you cunts from? FUCK ALL OF YOU!
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LOST was a mystery show, so those "POOM" endings had to have punch, it was all it had going for it, for most part at least [you should know, have seen all the haters whining all over the finale]. IT would be like me saying Walking Dead has done Zombies better than Zombie/ghosts in LOST.
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You are so right, I'm watching this show thinking fuck me, I cannot believe how lucky I am something this good is on TV and the fucking virgin fucktard losers on AICN still bitch and moan about it. Would you wankers really believe the world would be a better place without this show? Really? You tossers would sit there criticising while receiving the best blowjob ever in the history of the universe if it happened to you (sidenote: it won't). "Excuse me beautiful woman, your pacing is all off". My ass. This has become the worst community on the internet and the reason is that everybody HATES fucking everything. This used to be somewhere for people who liked certain things. How fucking sad it is now. You all think you could do it better. If you can do it better, go ahead, otherwise shut the fuck up and try to remember how to fucking enjoy something once in a while.
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This episode didn't have much action but the character development and showcasing of the camp member personalities was needed. With such a short season, we need to get some character progression before they start killing people in the last three episodes of this year. I so wish AMC would have given us 13 episodes this year.
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Just to summarize reasons to go back. Rick was living up to his plan with Dixon and was not going to leave the man who saved his life. If Merle was still alive, it would have been the right thing to do. We also have to remember that the guns and most importantly ammo was there. And even more important, the bag of tools. So there is definitly reason to go back. I will say this though as a resident of Atlanta. From my job there are at least five places I know of right now that I could go get guns within 10 miles of my place of work. Two gun shops and three pawn shops that sell guns. There is also a Walmart and Home Depot around the corner to get tools. That said, depending on the severity of the outbreak, which looks pretty severe; gun shops, pawn shops and stores like Walmart/Home Depot will likly get looted pretty fast. The great thing about TWD though is that Murphy's Law is contantly in effect. So expect most of their plans to go to shit on a regular.
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If you don't, it won't change your mind. I thought 1.1 had some good, creepy moments but otherwise had nothing he haven't seen before. 1.2 was cliched, and I'm sorry but the body chopping was idiotic. "Don't get it on your skin, but stand as close as you can while I yank this axe out. Don't go in another room or something. And exhibit a lot of poorly-acted disgust." I'm honestly not sure if that scene was supposed to be serious-repulsive or Dead Alive funny repulsive.
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already
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Episode 1: *****<br> <br> Episode 2: ***<br> <br> Episode 3: ****<br> <br>
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looks like they meet some street-wise young tough guys. looks like it's going to be drawing out the storyline even farther while they search for Lefty and have a sharks vs jets showdown in the streets. IMO, they need to focus on the existing characters instead of adding more to the mix at this point. make us care about them! kill a human! the comics held more tension and suspense for me so far.
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in the hopes that it would inspire some other networks to get into the horror genre. But, this is boring. Sorry the editing and pacing on this show are way off. And none of the characters is interesting enough to draw you in. Darabont is using some of his regulars like Jeff Demun, but they just seem to be background noise here. I wish Del Toro was involved with this. Then we might see soemthing.
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Did this first and much better.
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But I'm thinking that the season one finale would be the right time for Shane to meet his fate from the comic. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no moah!
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I'm liking the show, but confused what the long term plan is for the group of survivors. You think there should have been some discussion about what their plans are for a month or two down the line. They can't just camp for the rest of their lives and live off frog legs.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 8:48 a.m. CST
Where was the Spartacus talkback when it aired?
by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost
yet this boring trite gets popular for what? boring characters, cliched, dialogue is on syfy TV movie level and they managed to make zombies boring! so bland.
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and not his arm....but Dixon was bat-shit crazy at that point. Logic escapses a person that is panicing. <P> Considering that they have changed a lot so far from the comic...I am not sure that Shane will meet his end...or get buried again you son of a bitch.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 8:48 a.m. CST
For those that are bitching about the best friend banging
by Zombieflicker
Have any of you nerds ever hit on an unhappily married woman? Sometimes you can get lucky in one hour let alone 2 months. It's clear that they made it look like they were having marital problems prior to the outbreak, so being that she's banging someone (who she already knew and was comfortable around) after two months is totally convincing. Besides, what else is there to do in the woods when it's the end of the world?
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Really? <P> Well then, fuck your shit.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST
Stargate Universe, if you watched it, will make all shows inferi
by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost
it is intense and epic. sadly, even though i was optimistic about walking dead, it does suck and will go the way of Dollhouse sadly.
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Considering that Shane told her Rick was dead..she is less of a slut than they lead us to believe. <P> There are 4 things people need to survive. Food, water, shelter and sex. Yes sex, without that there is future generation. If a species is on the run and can not reproduce, they become extint. <P> In the premier, Shane asked about Lori...and shot Rick a glance that said "I know shit aint good, and I want some of that". Shane is a D-bag and had a plan.
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At least they do in the comic. The whole theme of the comic is the ongoing survival and how it gradually takes its toll on the various characters. And hopefully at some point down the road, we'll get Rick's classic speech about who the Walking Dead truly are.
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if my wife dead or turned into a zombie two months ago, i wouldnt be banging anyone let alone her best friend. i think the show is sending those Horror-genre theme messages of immoral behavior in the context of zombie outbreak.
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These are the rule of surviving a horror movie according to "Scream". <P> Nor is it cautionary tale of only those with morals survive. <P> Those that would survive are the in 3 catagories: the strong, the smart and those that are willing to do whatever it takes. Merle is a good example, he is not a nice guy...he would not hesiate to kill someone to save himself. He cut off his hand to get away.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 9:06 a.m. CST
would be funny if a zombie was peeping at their sex in woods
by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost
and rubbing his crotch area.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST
horror stories were always cautionary tales
by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost
little red riding hood and all that. The mom/wife did a bad thing here, not really her fault because the world is chaos and everyone doesnt hold on to their morals when that happens anyway, shes just a victim of bad human nature. plus death and sex go hand in hand with people. people get horny when they see death around them.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 9:15 a.m. CST
so when are they gonna sex up the zombies?
by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost
wanna see a zombie in lingerie or something, but still retains her guts.
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There's your Red State Republican ticket right there!
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How can anyone complain about it? Don't watch it if you don't like it, but it's great television. This show and Breaking Bad are the only two shows worth watching.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST
A porn shoot becomes infected with the zombie virus...
by Royston Lodge
...JUST before the guy blows his load, so he has a perpetual boner.<p> Actually, male zombies should all have perpetual boners, shouldn't they?<p> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_erection
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If you had you'd know that the racist asshole characters are the most realistic characters on this show.
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How much time have YOU spent in the South? I think it's possible that all of the characters on the show are from the South. The racists are just a sample. Where I live in the South there are all types of people, including racists in very small numbers, but most people are not like that. We Southerners are not all like that.
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......take television waaaay to seriously. It's a fiction show! Have a fucking imagination!!!! The show is decent for what it is. If you want reality, go tune into 'Sarah Palin's Alaska!' You people whine too much!
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"I hope you all rot in hell..."
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Your wife's best friend must not be that hot. Just kidding! All I'm saying is that that subplot is not as "unbelievable" as some folks are making it out to be. That shit happens. Maybe the writers are trying to make us dislike his wife and best friend. Who knows, If there were zombies walking around and I thought my wife had been dead for 2 months (and if my relationship had been rocky to begin with), I could see myself hitting on the hot blond from "The Mist". Especially after her vibrator comment!
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Everytime Andrew Lincolin/Rick Grimes is on screen he shines,Shane is a very interesting character as well, its early days so I have hope we can see the other characters become more compelling over time. <br />
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...but I have to admit I'm bothered by some of the VAST suspension of disbelief needed- mostly having to do with the survivalist angle. It probably doesn't help that I am an Atlanta native and don't think I'd set my survivalist camp up on the edge of Bellwood Quarry.
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i don't think you could cut through handcuffs too easily with a saw like that
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he had to get out of there fast. But the chain was still holding so cutting your hand off doesn't make that much sense.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST
Zombieflicker ---- i also think she sleeps with him because
by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost
she wants protection. she knows if hes invested in her he will try extra hard to protect her. women have that mentality, sex is a tool for her. maybe.
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...all go the suspension of disbelief I spoke of above. I'm loving the show, but leaps like that are jarring.
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I LOVED it! Yes, a bit of a 28 Days Later ripoff but who cares? A great 1st episode and I can't wait to catch up and see the rest. But only 6 episodes this season?
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It doesn't take much to suspend disbelief when you see that Dixon was GOING BATSHIT NUTS on the roof as the zombies were trying to get through the door. It's a crazy move, but I don't have to stretch my imagination to imagine him sawing his hand off while panicked. Not sure where Mentaldominance is getting that he was left on the roof for days either...There was only one night shown passing since they left the city, and they go back the next day (unless my memory is failing me).
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but the roof top duct support he was cuffed to would probably be realativly easy to cut through (especially if its rusty). So the dudes a complete moron or didn't have his wits about him so he didn't make sound judgement.
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My guess is that the guy panicked when he saw the zombies at the door. He was already freaking out before the zombies. He could have figured that at any moment the zombies would have come through the door. If in the midst of cutting the cuffs, the zombies broke through, he would have been dead. Going forward, I hope we get more of the core group interaction in the camp. I love seeing the group dynamics and pecking order. I agree with others that I don't care as much about having outside group come in before with get more with the core cast. I think ther is enough tension that can be developed within the campsite group with having to bring in the group of thugs in Atlanta.
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It couldn't have been more obvious in ep 2 that it was coming. Cuffed man + hacksaw always equals cut-off-your-own-hand. I was pleased that ep 2 ended without doing it. Now I find out they just saved it for later. Phoo.
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This isn't a shot but you sound like a person who has never been in a life or death situation. Like, why did that dumbass jump out of his fox hole and run right into my field of fire? Think about the people who just jumped out of the World Trade towers. With the obvios electrical equipment in an office building, why didn't any of those people think to create a coiled line and repel down to safe floor? Some people do crazy shit when panicked.
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Everyone is asking why Merle didn't saw the cuffs, or the pipe, but no one's asking how he got off the roof. He didn't go back through the stairs-the door was still padlocked. Even if he jumped to another building or climbed down with one hand, he still would have bled to death from sawing his hand off. I think he got picked up by the helicopter.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST
Merle picked up by helicopter people and given chainsaw
by turketron_2
to wear on his stump. He will atone for his mistakes in life by slicing and dicing his way through hundreds of the undead!
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or that he cut it off himself. Maybe the gangbangers cut his hand off. They came up there to rescue him and Merle started his racist shit before he was even uncuffed. The zombies cam back and they said fuck it and cut of his hand. Wait for the next ep.
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if merle had cut off his hand and jumped off the roof, that would have shown some kind of crazy desperation...though he might have come back as a pancake zombie
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So far I don't have much feeling for any of the characters. They all seem flat. I'm going to stick around, but this episode in particular was pretty dull.
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As has been said before, they displayed that Merle was losing it. Afterall, he had no water and was in the sun all day long. If a person is not in a right state of mind + scared, they tend to do crazy stuff. Besides, it was symbolic in a way. Grimes says that he was like an animal caught in a trap up there. What are animals infamous for doing to a limb/paw when it is trapped? You're welcome.
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..or whatever that fucking danny boyle/james franco movie is named. You know wherever he is, the boy aint too happy walking around with one hand and knowing that the black kid fucked up his potentual escape."Just wait till I get my Hands..(er, I meant Hand) on that boy.."!<p>Rick is either very honorable or just stupid to go back into town while risking the lives of his fellow surviviors just to save some asshole rednekkk.and just when he reunited with his wife and son..go fucking figure.Oh, and good for shane beating the shit out of the abuser's sorry ass. yeah, this ep was better than the last.
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new characters suck. Stick to the storyline in the comic. Glenn was ALONE in ATL, no redneck brothers, no T-Dog(that's just dumb all over), and keep it simple. I am now worried for the rest of the story if they've already deviated from the source this much already. Really? We're meeting another group of survivors(ep1.4) before the first big death of the story? WTF??? The PACING sucks!!! First episode was an absolute classic. Going to have to hear from Robert Kirkman himself (who I think is writing ep 4) why they made the changes.
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She was great in The Mist as that zealot bitch and not to mention a few other tv series like damages and SVU.<P>.Make it so, Frank.
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Surviving, getting out of the hospital already? Jesus, who cares. Why don't you all complain about 28 days later while you're at it. Move on. <BR><BR> It's COMPLETELY believable to have Rick head back to Atlanta. Why does everybody gloss over the other two reasons-- grabbing the gun bag and saving/helping Lennie James and his son. Dixon only falls last on the list of priorities. And that's not just from a viewer's perspective because Rick was willing to grab the guns first in case y'all missed that scene.
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The tension on this show is amazing. The fact that I can be on the edge of my seat without a single zombie for 90% of the ep, makes me angry when I think that there are only 6 episodes this season.
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We got a ZOMBIE tv show--and IT'S GOOD! How can you hate on it? What would you rather be watching that's any better? Two and a Half Men? Jersey Shore? Sheesh. Some people.
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than there are actually haters here. stfu already
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Is that all that talkbacks are now? An outlet for sad angry nerds to shit all over literally EVERYTHING? I think Eastbound & Down is a terribly unfunny piece of garbage and McBride is the most overrated "comedic actor" since Jonah Hill. Breaking Bad doesn't appeal to me at all, and Dexter is dull as dishwater. I don't go into the talkbacks for those shows and bitch about how much I hate them and how they're so overrated and insult anybody who enjoys them. In fact, I don't even click on those stories on the main page! What a concept! <p> I too rolled my eyes when Rick wanted to go back to save Merle, but since I ACTUALLY PAID ATTENTION, the other reasons he had for going back to Atlanta were perfectly valid and heroic. And since Rick is, y'know, THE HERO OF THE STORY, it totally made sense. It was a bit heart-warming that he wanted to prevent Lennie James and his son from walking into the same trap, and that he is willing to risk his life to do it. I'd probably say "Fuck Merle" like the rest of you, but that's what makes Rick a hero.
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I dont remember any "butt fuck" in the sex scene? how do you guys come to that conclusion? it was a classic vaginal intercourse in the woods.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST
fiester ---- there are better shows, like Stargate Universe
by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost
Zombies are okay for a quick movie night but you cant invest time every week on the same zombie story. you just cant.
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That was another great episode! No matter what the crowd of Butthurt squealing haters on this thread say!
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Nov. 15, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST
she only lets him fuck her for her kid
by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost
so her kid can be safe and protected. its a good plan.
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It doesn't take much to pick out the implausibilities in any show involving zombie hordes, but it would be a better, smarter show if the writing didn't dig plot holes that then need to be filled in.<p><p>The cuffs is an easy one--cutting through the piece of allthread holding the pipe bracket would have been the easy way out...but then we wouldn't have been treated to the telegraphed but dramatic reveal of the severed hand.<p><p>Then there is the bit about noise--everyone is supposed to keep noise down to keep from attracting the walkers, but we have Glenn driving like an idiot, wasting gas, while the siren screams "follow me" back to camp. The requires an explanation that wastes time at the beginning of the third episode, followed shortly by others either blowing horns or doing Bo Duke entrances into camp.<p><p>Some smarter writing could elevate this from good to great, and not wear out the dramatic license quite so fast.<p><p>And it bears repeating--the TV show needs to stand on its own. It can't rely on prior knowledge of the comic that many don't have to excuse the lapses in the teleplay.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 12:36 p.m. CST
it would be kinda weird if we see sex slaves
by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost
like in the Road book or 28 days. and cannibalism.
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if darabont et al. pay attention to these talkbacks, and i think there's a chance they might, they have a chance to see what the viewers think of the show. whether we knew the comics beforehand or not, the show should be enjoyable while still being somewhat loyal to the story and feel of the books. the books seem to be about the lengths people will go to survive and the breaking point that everyone ultimately has. introducing extra characters to add racial tension or trying to make a scene more "tense" by having an ensemble of unknowns detracts from what the books felt like...for me anyway. having a small group of people in a confined space (camp, rv, whatever) is much more claustrophobic and more tense - especially since it's easier to get to know/like the characters. looks like they're adding a street gang to next episode...taking even more away from the current characters' development. if lots of people are claiming the show is slow - then maybe it's slow. some people say slow is good, some disagree. i think it's too slow. nobody has really been threatened (ie bitten) by a zombie, hence we really don't have a reason to think it might happen. now merle is on the run with a missing hand? who cares? i don't care if he survives or not. and from the look of things, rick is bringing some redshirts along with him on the merle/gun trip. anyway....i'll keep watching but i do hope the show finds its way back to the roots of what made the books so intense - a la episode 1.
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i thought that was known
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Yeah, Rick is such an asshole. Just like all the people who join the military and "abandon" their families to go on suicide missions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Selfish pricks. <p> Did you also miss the part where they are going back to Atlanta to get the guns and ammo? Should they all just huddle in that camp and wait to be ravaged by the zombies without any way of fighting back? I like the fact that some of their decisions aren't perfectly thought out. They are in a fucking zombie apocalypse crisis, a whole different world, without adequate nutrition and many of the other basic necessities we are used to. People already do a lot of stupid illogical shit. A zombie apocalypse would only intensify that.
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for all i know they could all be eaten within a few minutes of screentime
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The characters are uniformly douchey charicatures, continually making the stupidest and least realistic choices for survival in a post zombie-apocalypse world.<BR><BR> The only thing I can figure is that the writers decided the characters had to be even stupider than the Zombies in order for the show to be sporting.<BR><BR> ...that or they want the "moral" to be that humanity is so inane it doesn't deserve to survive.<BR><BR>Virtually every scene contains a "Wait. Why are they doing THIS?" or "Wait. There are 75 ways out of this predicament...why are they using the most retarded one?"~moment.<BR><BR> It started with derp-boy's inability to recognize a Zombie apocalypse when he woke up, (seriously. Romero was 40 years ago. People KNOW Zombies by now), then, when having the choice of a complete police station's equipment, choosing NOT the bite/kick/scratch-proof riot gear, but a short-sleeved shirt for Zombie fighting...<BR><BR>...then the horse...the fucking HORSE.<BR><BR>It has just gone on like this...up to the final scene of last night...why would a guy cut through his hand when he had a HACK SAW and the only thing keeping him in place is a 3/8" thick steel bolt of the sort that hack saws were basically MADE to cut through? <BR><BR> Seriously...this is a stupid show.
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are the real zombies. <BR><BR> "YOU KANT KRITICIZE A SHOW BECUASE IT HAS ZOMBIES OMG, GO WATH LAW NAD ORDER AND PALIN"
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He left them in the care of his best friend (even if he doesn't know what his best friend did to his wife), who is also another cop and has already been taking care of them for weeks.
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I've used many hacksaws over the years, and one thing remains true: hacksaw blades dull and break at the least opportune moments. Usually when you are out of replacemnt blades. If he had started cutting on the handcuff chain or the old bolt, there was a real good chance he would've broken that blade by applying too much force, trying to rush the cut. <P> Following that logic, it was a much quicker, surer escape to remove his hand at the wrist.
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If so many of you hate the show and think it's retarded, WHY are you still watching? WHY are you wasting time reading articles and posting about it online? WHY aren't you just watching/reading/posting about something you actually like?
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it was 1/2" at least
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they all got out of there once already (minus dixon). but they have a 'stronger' crew this time, adding a hillbilly with a crossbow and dropping the women from trip one (why were they there again?)<BR><BR> that's real life logic, of course. dramatically though, yeah, you figure someone's going to not come back in one piece.
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He found his wife and son and after feeling they were reasonably safe and secure with Shane and the others, went out and DID HIS FUCKING JOB AS A COP to go back for the guns and ammo. It's not like he's not intending to shack up in a two-story house somewhere and never see his wife and kid again.
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Um, maybe you missed it but HE FOUND THEM. He knows they're alive and well and trusts his best friend to take care of them. You might disagree with his motivations and reasoning for leaving them, but that doesn't make him a stupid character. Get the fuck over yourself.
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You are wrong. I have used a hacksaw just like that to cut numerous bolts. It is exactly what they are made for, and I would wager it would take LONGER to cut through a guy's wrist, much less your own, what with all the pain and mental fatigue.<BR><BR>The only way he could have broken the blade was if he was a completely stupid charicature acting irrationally on a retarded show with creatively bunkrupt writers.<BR><BR>...oh. I see what you're saying...under THOSE circumstances, perhaps going through his own wrist WAS the best course of action.
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whatever, dude
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We get it. You're much smarter than everyone. Here's a cookie.
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You are also much smarter than everyone else, with the possible exception of Squirtloaf. Here's your cookie.
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I'm just curious what motivates a person to watch and "discuss" (I'm being generous using that term) a show they clearly don't like.
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Rick's job as a cop is "to protect and serve" and the best way he can do that at the moment is by going back for those guns and ammo. Time is of the essence and considering people were fighting zombies for weeks, how do you know which houses and which gun shops still have guns in them? Is there a map on the unavailable internets that Rick can magically pull up? Right now, Rick knows one sure location of a supply of guns and ammo and that's the bag he dropped. Also, the street that was cleared wasn't the same street with the tank where he dropped the bag, was it?
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COME THE FUCK ON. NOBODY HAS DIED, NOT EVEN THAT BAD GUY THEY HANDCUFF TO A ROOF AS THE BUILDING FILLS WITH ZOMBIES. BULLLLSHIT. THERE WOULD BE MORE/ACTUAL CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT IF WE EVER SEE WHY THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE AFRAID/MAD/SCARED/HORNY/GRATEFUL. RIGHT NOW ITS A SHOW ABOUT HOW IMPOSSIBLY LUCKY THINGS HAPPEN TO YOU.
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I've by no means seen every zombie movie ever, but there seems to be a general rule of sorts in any (serious, not comedic) zombie story that the concept of the dead returning to life is completely unheard of. Kind of goes in hand with the general rule that they are never referred to as "zombies", but as walkers, dead, etc.
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The reason I "to watch and "discuss" (I'm being generous using that term) a show they clearly don't like." is because my girl and I had a Sunday night ritual of watching Mad Men and drinking~an excellent end to the weekend.<BR><BR>Mad Men ended, and this came on, so we watch this now...it's a ritual.<BR><BR>I comment on it because I feel like my head will explode with the sheer stupidity on display in this show if I don't vent it off...<BR><BR>Now, if you don't mind, I am on my way up to the roof to measure some AC duct hardware :D
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if for nothing else but to improve the quality of characters by having those two on screen again, it's worth it
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Imagining how awesome the General here's life is outside of AICN. Gotten a good laugh out of it.
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I love his original trilogy, but MY GOD he is the king of stereotypical characters and trite dialogue. Do I even need to bring up THE FUCKING PIE-FIGHT in the original Dawn? That is easily the dumbest, most illogical sequence ever put into a zombie film. Seriously, please defend that.
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Romero needs no defense. The original Dawn was a farce parodying capitalism and the herd mentality...I don't really think that's the vibe they are going for in Walking Dead.<BR><BR>If it is, then they failed at that, too.
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That is the weirdest reason to watch a show I've heard. Is your remote broken? Is AMC the only channel you get? Do you have a Blu-ray/DVD player? I loved Seinfeld, but I didn't keep watching whatever was on NBC on Thursdays at 9pm after it ended. <p> Thanks for answering though.
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So what purpose did the pie-fight serve in that farce? What deep concept did it symbolize?
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Actually, I'm hating it: because there's only 3 episodes left for the foreseeable future. God dammit! I'm reading the comics as I watch the show(on issue #14), so I know some of the thematic directions that they seem to be going in... which in some ways makes me enjoy the show more, some ways less. However, my 3 friends who I've watched each episode with(well, 2 last night) have never touched the comic and they all love the show even more than I do. And they're considerably non-versed in all things geek, so I think that bodes well for the show and its progression into season 2. My one gripe is that some of the supporting cast seem to lack real acting chops, and if you read the comics you know that pretty much every member of the supporting cast eventually tackles some serious material, so AMC needs to get some good character actors on board, asap.
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He's nuts, but you can't hang Lennie and his kid out to dry. They're going to need the arms if the zombies are coming out of the city looking for more food, shooting is bad, but it beats dying.
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The general static all over this post reminds me of one basic theme of Romero's earlier works (and shows why this TV series is good but not great, and hardly believable): without cooperation Man is doomed. Seriously, who's gonna be livin' soap opera lives when the zombie-/ghoul-thing happens? We'll all kill each other for _________ before all that juicy personal drama shit gets rolling. "-Is Squeekums takin' it in the butt on the sly? -Is somebody gonna get all grumpy if I leave his redneck bro to die like a dog/etc..." BANG! (or better, BOOM!) It'll solve all these silly problems FAST, and you get everybody else's toys to boot.
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That's the whole point, without repercussions people become the monsters.
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..this show isn't "about zombies". It's about people, who've been thrust into a horrible, life-changing cataclysmic event. That's all it and the comic have ever been about. The zombies are just background environment for the real story.
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..if you're tuning in every week to see "omg how many zombeez are gonna be eatin brainz!"..you're going to be sorely disappointed. Now, hopefully, the writers can keep up the same themes as successfully as Kirkman did in the comic -but I'm not going to judge that on three epsiodes.
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But I do wonder about these characters common sense. "Where else are we going to get guns?" Dude, have you been to Georgia? How about ANY small town sporting goods store, rather than the mouth of hell? Hit a walmart, get everybody a shotgun and move on. <p>Anyway, I thought it decent to go back for Merle. But you're telling me he'd cut off his hand before trying the pipe or the cuff? It wasn't exactly a Mad Max choice, since establishing the zombies could not get through the door. <p>They are doing a good job butching up Dale. He's more interesting on screen, rather than page.
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MAYBE the street gang we're gonna see in 1.4 found merle, cut off his hand to free him and are holding him hostage or using him for some other purpose.......
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it was shown that Merle finally managed to rope the 'hacksaw' with his belt, and he proceeds to start cutting the metal framework to which the cuffs are attached...<p>THEN the zombies arrive at the door...cut to the scene of the others preparing to go rescue him...and finish up with the end scene as is...
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Nov. 15, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST
Lemme see if I understand this: Guy with a hacksaw
by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes
has two options, cut the bolt or cut his hand off, guy chooses to cut his hand off and someone on here theorizes that it was because the blade might be dull or would break? uh huh. yeah without even trying to cut the bolt, dude starting hacking away on his own damn wrist. if the blade was dull it aint gonna cut his wrist - not without a lot of effort that would - wait for it - break the damn blade. i liked the first ep, but geez somma you are going to extremes defending bad writing
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=29411 Looks like 5.1 million people tuned in, almost a half million INCREASE in viewers from last episode.
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or faster to cut through a half inch steel bolt or to remove your hand at the wrist (even with a dull bladed hacksaw)in a hurry as if your life depended on it?<P> Really?<P> Ever get a nasty papercut? Try doing that on a bolt. Flesh and bone gives way much easier, I assure you.
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He's also a dead man walking if they follow the rules established by the comic. He'll bleed to death and come back as a zombie. Everybody who dies, comes back as a zombie.
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you have gotta be kidding me<p>ive got 2, mint condition...do i have any bids?
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well yeah then, really. your logic flies out da window if ol merle is using a dull blade that he thinks might break because he is in a hurry. it will break on flesh and bone as well. see here is whereit gets hinky, dude did not even try the bolt but you are giving the (bad) writers an excuse that ol merle thought he had to try his wrist before the bolt. i have no problem with the wrist being cut off if that was the last option, but not if it is the first and you are just supposing that the blade was dull and or brittle
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we don't know if he tried cutting the bolt, the pipe, the cuffs or even if he actually cut off his hand himself. just sayin.......
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Nov. 15, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST
so if he did not cut his wrist off, did zombies bite it off?
by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes
that to me would be a better way to go, does not explain how ol merle got away, but at least it would be better than what we are left with - turn merle into a racist zombie with revenge on his uh mind?
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if there are other people alive in the city and they heard him screaming, maybe they showed up, chopped the hand off and took him with them for better or worse. it ain't impossible at this point.
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b/c they think a lack of a big bad they needed to insert one.<P> That would be some Hollywood thinking there. IMO the zombie apoc is a healthy sub for ANY big bad they they could invent.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST
um, how would these other people get past de zombies?
by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes
and why would they chop the wrist instead of chopping the cuffs or pipe or bolt? just askin...
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has made far too many of us cynical beyond belief. While even in the early goings of the comic book, I found some of the dialogue jarring and the characters at times to be cardboard cutouts. As it matured however, it became a survivalist horror masterpiece in its own right. For those of us who are fans of the books, I think the larger, more rewarding payoff will come in season 2 (*****SPOILERS:Michonne, Tyresse, Rick and a few others losing more of their humanity, becoming morally ambiguous, maybe reaching the prison at the end?) and for that I'm more than willing to forgive some of the clunkiness of Eps 2-3, though I found 3 to be more on par with my expectations for the show.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST
i actually like the idea of merle being a revenge bent zombie
by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes
that would give the show a kick, and make it more personal - right now it is just all over the place without any focus and with stereotypes for characters - break away from the comic and do something good, but that makes too damn much sense , so merle just gnawed his damn wrist off with his teefis
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and the audience will fade away because who wants to watch a show that hypes having zombies, only to do a bait and switch to have it being about descending into moral ambiguity? i aint hatin on the idea and that may work for the comic, but when you are pushing zombies as the selling point, don't be surprised if when you remove that point the people who were looking for zombies leave as well, then you wind up with a show like carnivale, all promise and no reward
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thinking he was never gonna reach the tools. See, teeth can do that to flesh and bone. Not so much to a steel bolt.
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Rick's search for the the half gutted woman in the park while the other guy tried to put a hole in his wife's head. <p> That combined with Bear's wonderful music cue showed us all the pity they had for those poor creatures. Ver intense and a must rewatch for 50+ times or so. <p> Episode 2 escaped me also with fence climbing and running zombies, that were just "a horde". <p> Here in Episode 3 we could watch the beginning of the fall of the humanity in the remaining humans... very well played and executed. <p> And in all this mess, we have the Shining Knight Rick, who stands for this humanity. <p> Kudos for the series so far! <p> Good day for Dexter AND The Walking Dead! But Supernatural mustn't be forgotten in the line of weekly entertainment!
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Ahhhh! Good times. You're "smart" because you toss around script jargon, and yet don't seem to have a fuckin' clue as to what any of those words actually mean? Hehhehehehe When did Faraci clone himself? how mant Lil'Devies are there on AICN now?
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a perfect genre epic!
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According to THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER, 3.3 million in the 18-49 demo and just under where it premiered with 5.3 million. <p>http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/walking-dead-rises-third-episode-45444</p>
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I came here to see if people are actually discussing the episode but no it's page after page of bitching. It's the same people reposting their gripes. Stop watching asses or at least post your point and move on. There is no need to keep on about your dislike. Point out what you didn't like and move on so people can actually discuss what happened in the episode.
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There used to be a time when people could actually do that here, but now the boards are filled with sad haters. You have to fight what you love now. This place...it's Thunder Dome. Only its filled with hundreds of Master Blasters, and very few Mad Max's. actually, let me change that to mostly Blasters. You seee they have the mind of a child!
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not fight WHAT you love...lol roflamo, fml, ftw, etc.
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This is becoming like "True Blood" talkbacks where people start discussing the source material, not headlining their comments as spoilers. Just because its in a different medium,doesn't mean you still don't have to indicate such. The TV show is going to eventually, possibly, use plot points from the original so please me mindful that there are many who have not read the books from which the show was adapted.
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Name some shows that are better. Let's see what you come up with. And you better do better than flippin' Stargate Universe.
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what the hell are they going to accomplish this season? we've only got 3 episodes left!, and each episode accomplishes so little, really. i liked ep 3 alot but after i was done, i was like, shit, that felt like 30 minutes and like we need more. i doubt the numbers will be as high next season if they are going to take another year to give us more episodes...dang..
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...It sucks". That seems to be the typical reaction to just about everything here at AICN
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are people so devoid of imagination that they need every plot hole filled? its a show about zombies for chrissake. lighten up and have fun.its FICTION...if ya need every detail spoonfed then youre watching the wrong program
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Forget the comics. This is a different medium. They have to diverge from the comics, it's that simple so not everything from the comics will be in this, as others have mentioned characters and story arcs may be touched on or even fully explored but the show WILL be different. It has to be.What they've thus achieved is to turn the notion of horror themed television shows completely on their heads - they don't have to be self reverential or blatantly using humour to increase the appeal. They can take time building their own story which is what they're doing. Jeez, this is the kind of thing we've dreamed of for years - an intelligent, character driven horror story that doesn't pull any punches ON TV. And morons here are nit picking over what was included and what wasn't? My god, get over the talkback need for negativity - this is everything that always gets begged for on these boards - creativity, intelligence, excitement and no small measure of gore tactically placed - if the show itself isn't for you, that's one thing. But criticising this one, is lunacy.
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Hollywood Reporter says season two hits AMC in October 2011.
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i'm actually kind of DOWN that's there's only only 3 more eps!!! i can't recall any other seasons of tv being just 6 episodes..i want TWD around for the long haul. i'm merely complaining i want more! lol- and worried that a year is too long, people will forget, and season 3 could be jeopardized.
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has more than six episodes
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american audiences arent like brit ones, where a series can run for 6-8 epis for a seaon, and the audience is still there<p>amc shoulda worked this out more like usa and sci fi deal with their series<p>break up the season into two parts<p>part one in the fall, part two in the spring/early summer, running right up to the return of madmen<p>well, at least they will have the con to push the buzz for season 2
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Nov. 15, 2010, 7:05 p.m. CST
Here's the thing, why is everyone so scare of the rednecks?
by HollywoodHellraiser
Merle made people his bitch and the bro had everyone around the campfire scare to tell him about his brother fate!<p>WTF, man up! They could easily taken down the other brother, to which they did, so the campfire scene was just useless, IMO!<p>I will say I like the brother better than Merle because he did seem to show some emotion! And I liked the actor ever since he got blown up by Blade!
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If a show is good, then it's worth discussing. Shame there's so many haters around here. Good show. Long may it continue.<p>CBTL out. Peace.
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Something occurred to me after I watched the episode. Merle is cuffed to the metal thing on the roof. The door is padlocked with a chain. When the group go back, the chain is cut with the bolt cutters and they go out to find that Merle is gone, with only a severed hand remaining. <p> So um...how did Merle get off the roof exactly? It's established in ep. 2 that it's really high up so there's no way to jump and survive and the door is the only viable way down but it's locked. So where the hell did he go?
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so i didnt see all of it but i saw how it ended with the fast car.
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surely there should have been...they were just trying to get through it. even if they gave up, did they ALL shuffle back down the stairs?
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Season 2 in October 2011? Good. That means they should have time to hire some writers.
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followed by two minutes of beating on a redneck and one minute of another redneck screaming at a prosthetic.<P>Yeah, not sticking around for episode four.
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That's all I need to say.
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doesn't matter because the tr0lls are tards ... and we get a 13 episode season 2! EAT IT HATERS! 13 eps! FUCK YOU! ....Oct 2011 is so far away though : /
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Pointless meandering WAFFLE! So what, we havent yet seen how they disguise themselves as the dea dby smearing themselves with crpse innards and walking amongst them to get from A to B? I mean really....Who gives a shit about this detail and why are they trying to reinvent the wheel by adding the word "FIRESTONE" to the tire? STUPID SHOW. They should all die...especialy the girl who cheated on her husband for the flat nosed jackoff.
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Go back to 4chan for Christ's sake.
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For anyone who has read the books. He was picked up by the helicopter. Somehow ends up with the Governor (or is the Governor) and he ends up being the one who cuts off Rick's hand.
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That was an excellent episode.
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Nov. 15, 2010, 10:55 p.m. CST
Obviously there si somethign about Merle's hand scene we don't k
by Red Giant
Helicopter naybe, gang might have one who knows? Clearly they knew you'd jump on the ridiculousness of him cutting off his own hand (like you all have) just to set you up for a reveal in 1.4.
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about Merle as Governor for a while now. Too easy though.
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Turingstee, I hope you're right. Merle as Gov would be pretty lame. Though I think there's little doubt he'll end up in that cap as one of the Governor's lackeys. I still think he'll be the one who maims Rick. Any writers who think there's an ounce of originality left in the "hacksaw and the handcuffs" cliche would think Merle cutting off Rick's hand in retribution is some kind of dramatic poetry.
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one of the Hunters, but that final scene has set him up as Governor's lackey, not enough time for him to rise up the ranks and be Governor.
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It is irrelevant whether or not Merle cut off his own hand, or got rescued by a gang/helicopter/unicorn after a gang member/governor/zombie took his hand off.<BR><BR> He was still up there long enough to go crazy and talking to himself and get all sunburnt/toasty. <BR><BR>If he had a hacksaw and hadn't cut through that bolt in 16 hours, it is still fail.<BR><BR>Also, there were other tools, and that bolt would have had a nut at the bottom of it...just sayin'.
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Too long <p> Recently watched that Sherlock series from BBC 3 eps of 90 minutes, brilliant series which sadly isn't returning to next autumn either. <p> AMC I see has a couple of series coming out next year and hopefully they continue with the form we have seen so far <p> So many great comic book properties that really are ready to be made into great TV series, Y The Last Man, Preacher please
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Strange things lurk on the surface world.
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Rick is not capable of leaving a man behind. It's a cool character trait, but one that can get a lot of people killed.
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Regardless The "We need to go back and get Merle" was the discussion with in the group that did it. Rick is an outsider. He saved the group from Atlanta, but he left a man behind- to keep group order and peace- to become a fully welcomed member. This had to be fixed. I think Rick was overwhelmed when he saw his wife and son again. I think he was overwhelmed before this when he was trying to save himself in Atlanta, and when he met and saved the new people who saved him. It's after this "Save Merle" discussion that Rick explains to Shane the other values of going to Atlanta- Morgan and his son Duane and the guns. So hopefully the promise of Rick turning on that walkie-talkie will happen in the next episode- Unless something else overwhelms him and the group. <P>Trying to save Merle however was the first thing the group did when they got back, and like another TB'er here said. Maybe Merle didn't cut off his own hand<P> Maybe someone else did. Someone who saw value in him as a hostage/information to take what they wanted from the group. Someone who didn't care how Merle was removed from the cuffs. Cutting through the wrist or the arm is way faster than cutting through steel or iron. <P> We don't know that Merle cut off his own hand, and we wont know till we know for sure. Was it the people from the helicopter, or maybe the thugs they teased us with in the sneak peak of the next episode, or Merle himself. <P>Merle was taking to himself about his time in the service and knocking out his Sargent's teeth or something like that. He was so deep in the self conversation/reflection- that he forgot about being cuffed up on the roof. He was living in a memory. He was batshit crazy. So even if he is his own de-hander. It still isn't that hard to believe. Crazy people don't make sound decisions.
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when I saw the cuff hanging, but that is spoiler talk, and I don't want to do stuff like that. I mean we all assume this season is going to end with the "It's not the same as" - "It never should be" conversation, but those of us who know this should not ruin it for everyone else who doesn't. <P> I don't think Merle "Is" or will become the "Gov" <P> I hope William Sadler nabs that role. <P> I hope someone else cut off Merle's hand if only to spank some of these haters and their convictions of it being dumb and illogical.
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Why not strike while the iron's hot. Are you telling me these people didn't think to write any episodes beyond episode six? I know the sets still have to be up. Why would it take a year to bring the show back on air? Maybe they'll use the year to market the success of the this season to more advertisers, higher paying advertisers. But it just seems like a long time between seasons.
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again when the winter weather goes away? The cold is just starting to come- maybe it's my thin blood and this is not an issue. Seems to me they can use all this "cold" time to location scout and build props and sets and more SPFX stuff while reworking the comic stories plot into the 13 scripts for the next 13 episodes. Better to film after Feb. Halloween 2's crew paid dearly for filming when the cold was still here.
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is a pretty fucking great idea. Never thought of that.
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...his wife's asshole stretched out WAY wider than when he last saw her.
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So, if anyone says anything remotely critical of this show, they are automatically "haters" or "trolls"? What kind of thinking is that? <br> <br> I like the show. I do. I'm glad there's some genre shows on TV. But this one is flawed. Most of the flaws being NOT the zombie stuff, but cliched dialogue and stereotypical characters. It's why I like it but don't love it. <br> <br> What is it with Hollywood writers that they can't be bothered to actually visit Atlanta before writing about it or its people? If someone wrote a movie/TV show about California and had everyone talking like surfer dudes, people would call it stupid. Yet when LA writers throw ignorant, thick-accented, racist rednecks into a script, people nod and go "Pretty Real Shit". No, it's not. It's tiresome. <br> <br> Witty Asian nerd? Check. Street-tough black guy? Check. Professional Black Woman? Check. Proud Woman who points out that you don't have to be a man to be tough or to lead or to kill zombies? Check. Thick-accented redneck who beats his wife? Check. <br> <br> If you've got a southern accent on "Walking Dead" and you're not the MAIN guy? You're the bad guy. <br> <br> The problem with the show for me isn't the pace or the build. I like the tension and I like the story. The characters, however, are all a bit unlikable and, quite frankly, stupid. The baffling decisions that are made (right up to sitting out in the open in the middle of the night around a campfire when the dead walk amongst us) is what pulls me out of the show every time. Great debut, but bad decisions galore in Eps 2 and 3. <br> <br> I'm not a "hater". I want so much to like the show. But I don't slap an approval sticker on anything that is comic book/horror/sci-fi/zombie related programming. It still has to be good writing/acting/etc. "TWD" started great and still is very interesting...but the flaws are numerous. You don't have to be a "hater" to simply notice eye-rolling problems with the show. <br> <br> Oh, what's with the basket-case little-sister of the main blonde? She was without her sister for about a day and she paced (They actually filmed her PACING back and forth!) and bitched and whined about being separated from her. She was more emotional at being reunited with her sister than the boy was with his father he hadn't seen in months. If the dumb broad had the separation anxiety of a puppy, why didn't SHE go on the trip to Atlanta too? <br> <br> And she actually said "They should have been back by now", while pacing. What's next? "See you in Hell?" <br> <br> Look, even in a Doomsday scenario, there are some people you simply wouldn't hang around.
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is the dating prospects for the women. All of the guys that survived are misogynistic and/or psychotic rednecks.
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the consensus I see here is that Merle was a new character (not in the comics) that didn't need to be created, along with his brother. When Rick first gets to ATL, Glenn is the ONLY one there, which automatically makes him a badass. It helps to introduce 1 (1!) character at a time, you can't introduce 9 new characters in the second episode & expect anyone to care about them. I liked the smaller cast early on in the funny books. Here's hoping they streamline it soon, I got faith in AMC! SONS OF ANARCHY tonight!
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I don't think that the shows going to go down the exact route with the Governor as people seem to be making out from the comic series (or indeed relishing the prospect of). 3 episodes in and we are already diverging quite a way from what's in the comics in terms of general storyline. Sure we have some familiar faces in position, but the actions not following the same course.
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you people are hilarious. plothole this, plothole that. maybe as somehow is familiar with the source material, i know that things aren't always what they seem with this material for example, what makes some of you think merles is "GONE"? we end with a close-shot of the handcuff and his aghast rescuers. Merle could easily be zombified shuffling towards them at the beginning of the next ep. or, he have tied off his hand at wrist and is sitting around the corner moaning in pain. i weep for my country and if you guys are any indication, i weep for genre fiction. SG-U is decent, but it isn't this. this source material is as good as it gets and so far Darabont has delivered in every aspect. peace
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Sorry. Going back for a scum bag like thaqt made no sense. deven going back for the guns made no sense. No other towns have gun shops or police stations?? It was a needless risk, especially seeing Grimes had just reunited with his wife and son. The dead are getting close? Fine, pack camp and move further away. Hit a small down along the way and get new guns. It was a dramatic device to create tension and it was paper thin. Unless we call them on this crap, we'll see more and more of it till the series ends up sucking big time.
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Sorry. Going back for a scum bag like thaqt made no sense. deven going back for the guns made no sense. No other towns have gun shops or police stations?? It was a needless risk, especially seeing Grimes had just reunited with his wife and son. The dead are getting close? Fine, pack camp and move further away. Hit a small down along the way and get new guns. It was a dramatic device to create tension and it was paper thin. Unless we call them on this crap, we'll see more and more of it till the series ends up sucking big time.
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Some of you have the logic of a shit-flinging monkey. Don't you think in a huge panic that guns and lots of supplies would have been looted? It makes sense to go back for the gun bag, the walkies, and the bag of tools (probably as rusty and old as they are). That hacksaw looked old as shit, I highly doubt it would have sawed through the cuffs. I agree about the rusty metal rail thing that the cuffs were attached to, it would have made sense to try to hack through that, but given Merle's condition, trauma from zombie attacks and escapes, dehydration, sunstroke, and probably an already unstable personality from before the zombie outbreak, I can easily surmise that given his desperation he would have hacked his hand off. Now I don't think he made it off the roof, for all we know he's laying there in a pool of blood all bled out, or turned into a zombie. We'll find out next episode. I'm stoked, I'm loving the way the show is already deviating from the comics.
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Normally I would agree about the guns being gone, but the show itself has shown us an unlooted police station, department store, dead soldiers and cops with ammo strapped to them and (literally) tons of military equipment sitting around doing nothing.<BR><BR> ...to say nothing of the unlooted farmhouse with the two corpses in it...why not go there for their guns and ammo instead of zombie infested Atlanta?
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This should be obvious. In the comics, the Governor is easily the primary villain, and since this is a show about people, and not zombies, the villain is as important as the hero. It makes sense that the hero and villain would have intersecting histories, this is a simple script adaptation from the source material. not only that, but now 'the Governor' has a reason to chop off Rick's hand- poetic revenge. <p> I think the whole Woodbury plot, along with the prison, is going to be folded into a lot of the other stuff that happened in the first 40 issues or so- Michonne, Tyrese, the religious farmer family etc. A lot of that stuff might not be in it at all, but Woodbury definitely will, even if there isn't an actual town called 'Woodbury'. that's what the second season is going to be all about. I imagine the last scene of the last episode will be a one-handed Merle reveal, preparing to seige Rick's camp with a small army.
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In my opinion, that's the problem with making Merle the Governor. It's TOO simple and obvious. The writers are taking some of the best WTF?!? plot from the book and turning it into a standard TV trope.
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pure shit, but it's not golden gold, either.<br><br> My main problem is with the pacing: decompressed storytelling, short episodes (fully 1/3 the hour is commercials), and on top of that the "season" is only 6 episodes.<br><br> Someone earlier mentioned how some British shows have short seasons.. but the difference is that the British dramas I've seen also have very meaty (non-decompressed) episodes.. Things actually happen. <br><br> I enjoy The Walking Dead, but it is not the same TV magic that Breaking Bad season 1 was, much less the great series like Sopranos, Deadwood, and Game of Thrones.
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