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‘It’s The Key To The Universe!!’
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I am – Hercules!! I was thinking Olivia might wish herself back to Earth One for good in last week’s Amber-centric installment, but I’m glad she didn’t. Fox says of 3.6, titled “6955 kHZ”:
Back "over here," the Fringe Division investigates a bizarre phenomenon when 15 people up and down the Eastern Seaboard, all suffer retrograde amnesia from listening to their shortwave radios on the same frequency. Much to Walter's dismay, Peter presses on with piecing together the mass destruction device. Just as alternate Olivia and Peter's chemistry deepens, the anticipation of Olivia's return escalates. Guest Cast: Ryan James McDonald as Brandon; Clark Middleton as Ed Markham; Kevin Weisman as Gemini; Mark Acheson as Murray Harkins; Vincent Tong as Shen Chan; Minh Ly as Dan Liang; Paula Lindberg as Becky Woomer; Tyler McClendon as Laird Woomer.
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  • Nov. 11, 2010, 1:24 a.m. CST


    by GLG_20

    More of Olivia's rack.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 1:25 a.m. CST


    by GLG_20

    and FIRST!!!

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 1:33 a.m. CST

    I'm gonna have to watch this someday

    by superfleish76

    I have the first season Blu-ray set, and I've never given them a spin. I did watch the first few episodes when they aired, and it was okay. It's a shame really, because I was unemployed for the past month and I still didn't watch them. Oh well.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 3:26 a.m. CST

    Really liking this season so far

    by Jimbonx

    Last weeks throwback to the walking through walls from season 1 was great. Only weak point now is the switcheroo...makes our side look like fools for not catching on.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 3:27 a.m. CST

    6955 kHz is actually the frequency

    by V'Shael

    around which most pirate radio stations broadcast. You can read about it here :

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Loved last week's one about the Amber

    by theGoldbergV

    What about when Olivia appeared back in our reality? She didn't disappear from the other one....hmmmmm <P><P>What with that AND imaginary-Peter saying "reality is just a matter of perception" I think Fringe is going to be hitting some hard-sci-fi areas in the coming weeks. <P><P>My theory is that the alt-verse was created when Walter first observed it, that explains why the only differences are from 1989 onwards, no oh wait, they said Kennedy was still alive. Ah...scratch that then. Hopefully this time out we'll se more of the Doomsday machine, wacky ancient subplot that it is

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Dino DeLaurentis has died.

    by V'Shael

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Are Giada DeLaurentis' tits still alive ?

    by Itchy

    That is the important thing.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 7:31 a.m. CST


    by SSquirrel

    Yeah there are plenty of differences that pre-date 1989. Back to the Future stars Eric Stoltz, a hotel that plans were scrapped for in the 30s was built on their side, she had never heard of Bono, so U2 never became the huge stars they are in our world. Just a few things.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Did the find the key to the universe...

    by OutsideChance the engine of an old parked car?

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Where online in Canada can I see Amber?

    by tangcameo

    I missed Amber and I can't find it on CTV's website or Space's site. I HATE when the US bans a show that the Canadian stations have bought rights to but NEVER play them. Grrrrrrr.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 8:35 a.m. CST


    by jtp8000

    Dion't you guys have access to IMDB or Fox on-line? Or is Canada still trying to figure out what this internet thing is?

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 8:40 a.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    Feel better about yourself now?

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 8:40 a.m. CST

    Did I just post about Fringe

    by jtp8000

    And not mention how hot red head with bangs Olivia is? I really want to see what color the rug is

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 8:41 a.m. CST

    JTP - Canadian tv channels want their piece

    by tangcameo

    So they'll buy up the broadcasting rights to American shows but only have space on primetime for 60% of them and they shelve the rest (but still retain the rights) and so we miss them here and can't see them on US websites. Tried CTV, Space,, and TV Guide. Haven't tried IMDB yet though. Thanks!

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST

    No luck with IMDB

    by tangcameo

    But the synopsis told me what I wanted to know.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Herc, ratings question...

    by Zombieflicker

    In today's world, have any DVR/Tivo adjustments been made to the way ratings are tallied? I record Fringe and The Office, and I know I can't be the only one who watches both. Or are the ratings just bullshit, and I just need to move on. However, if someone were to ask me what I watched at 9pm, I would say Fringe because I know The Office is in no danger of being canceled.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST


    by SSquirrel

    If you don't have a Nielsen box, it literally doesn't matter what you watch. People with Nielsen boxes only get to have stuff counted that they are actively watching. Someone mentioned in a thread yesterday that they have an occasional flash that they have to respond to w/a remote to indicate they're watching.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST

    How is this show...

    by MemBirdman

    ...not the highest rated in television? Oh wait...because you have to think. We wouldn't want THAT to succeed, now would we?

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Giada's gonna get even more money...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...Damn I have a huge jones for that babe. She's the only reason why I watch the Food Network. I just wanna throw her on that kitchen counter and... well, nevermind.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 11:41 a.m. CST

    have to think?

    by lookjerk

    c'mon. It's good, interesting, but if you think, it's pretty silly.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Rubicon canceled

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    It makes sense, not just because it was low rated but also because it was a creative mess that didn't quite gel.<p> But it introduced a lot of us to the charms of Annie Parisse, hopefully we'll see her around in something that will stick.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Ratings system...

    by D_T

    I also believe the people who would actually participate in a Neilson horribly skews the data. <p> i.e., me and the wife, our SIL/BIL, and a few other close friends all watch Fringe, and I'm pretty confident none them (definitely not us) would participate. <p> I'm convinced we've lost a number of good (potentially great) shows because of the piss poor ratings technology.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST


    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    So obviously implants. She seems like a nice, charming woman, just sayin' though.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 1:19 p.m. CST

    My parents would be the type to participate in Neilson

    by Zombieflicker

    All my Dad will watch is Nascar, and my Mom watches is reruns of America's Funniest Videos. Oh yeah.. and movies on AMC like Kill Bill and Goodfellas. With commercials every five minutes and heavily edited for television. Meanwhile, the DVD will be sitting 5 feet away the whole time they are watching it on AMC. Geesh!

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 1:42 p.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    Those aint implants. Have you ever even seen real tits? She's Italian. They are blessed women.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST

    This season of Fringe has turned me off.

    by Yamato

    Love season 1, season 2 was good, season 3, just don't care about the show anymore.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Wheres the bald dudes at?

    by Saen

    Did they ever explain those guys and wtf they were doing.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 5:38 p.m. CST

    The Altverse ....

    by blackflowerX

    forgive me as I'm no kind of expert on alternative universes , but if the "Altverse" was created when Walter first saw it , would it not have run backward through its existance ?<br> So in that context, it's entire history was created at that point (past and present)?....<br>Sorry if thats a stupid idea , I just assumed that it might be all a bit more unlinear , and when an "Altverse" is created , it can historically run backward as well as farward? ....

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 5:39 p.m. CST


    by blackflowerX

    Yea good point.... Where the fuck are the bald guys ?

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 5:46 p.m. CST


    by blackflowerX

    Sorry ,but apart from the last episode,I totally disagree with your opinion on Rubicon....

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 6:03 p.m. CST


    by Robber_Button

    The Observers are/is still about. I have to watch once for fun and once for Where's Wally/Waldo fun. <br></br><br></br> Sure there'll be an Observer based episode or 2 coming up. <br></br><br></br> Oddly enough have warmed to Walternate. If some universe hopping interlopers had nicked my kid I might go stone exterminator on them. Course the other issue being... <br></br><br></br> Earth 2 has no Liam Neeson.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Worst episode this season

    by vaterite

    Wow. This episode was terrible. The high quality of the writing this season went straight into the toilet. Fauxlivia was being stupidly obvious. The science was by far more ridiculous than is usual. I ancient civilization of homo sapiens living millions of years before the dinosaurs, yet broadcasting numbers in Spanish? Worst episode this season!

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Awesome episode

    by AshokForgiven

    This episode was bad, vaterite? <br><br> No. Just... no.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Another awesome episode

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    And I used to mock in season 1 how bad I thought this series was then. Wow it's come so far, and so consistently quality lately. And really how the hell does Torv pull off being so much more sexy as Fauxlivia when she's only slightly different... Good acting.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Community was awesome

    by T-RACE

    Since there's not a talkback for that just thought I'd post it here.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 9:16 p.m. CST

    a question for the ubernerds

    by Dollar Bird

    So, I think I missed something while looking up the name of a Japanese ghost, but how old are the items buried at the coordinates? More than 10,000 years old? A million years old? More than 250 million years old? I'm just wondering, because if the pieces of the Device were buried before the last ice age, what has caused them to not be wiped out by glaciers and other geological events? Also, latitude and longitude are current pinpoints on the map. How did Walternate get around things like continental drift to keep the coordinates accurate? Or, is he such a genius, that he's able to bury thirty-some high-tech dohickies in the distant past and figure out where they will end up in the year 2010 to plant the numbers in the old book (which had graphic design waaay too modern for how old the book is supposed to be) and also on the number channels? Also, since people have been listening to number channels for 50 years or so, how is it no one's figured out the meaning as latitude and longitude? Those seem like pretty obvious answers to the codes. (Or is it because no one had a copy of "The First People" to help decode it?) I enjoy Fringe a great deal, but it's petty stuff like this that disappoints me a little bit. But, maybe I missed out on where they said that the Device's pieces were not actually buried for millions of years. Guess that makes me the ubernerd.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 9:37 p.m. CST

    I think this will be the last season

    by InActionMan

    They seem to be charging forward to some sort of conclusion. I think we may get an expatiation of who the Observers are right before the winter break and the war between the two universes really begins when the show comes back in 2011.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST


    by DigitalBeachWar

    It doesn't take an ubernerd to come up with that "The First People" are more than likely travelers of time and space. I doubt that Walternate buried the items, though I am sure he figured out the whereabouts for them in Earth#2 and connected the dots that Earth #1 has them as well. My guess is that both dimensions need to have this mystery machine built to function.

  • Nov. 11, 2010, 11:24 p.m. CST

    Observers Vs. The First People, or they the same?

    by ToMonicker

    I hope they are ramping up for a finale or showdown or something... <p> I laughed at the comment about the bad science- I've already given up on there being solid science, you will hurt you brain trying, come on. <p> I know it may have passed me by, but why and how did Otherside Earth develop shapeshifters??? Sure, they are amazing infiltrators, but even that tech seems far surpassing their "we got HD flat screens & IKEA-clean furniture everywhere" look. Plus they leak mercury everwhere. Damn.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 12:04 a.m. CST

    missed the last 15 minutes

    by Datascream

    Fuckin power went out for a good hour. bastards!

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 12:06 a.m. CST


    by MikTol

    Were the numbers in the radio broadcast the Lost numbers?

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 12:20 a.m. CST


    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Yeah I noticed that also! I think that the last 4 or so were. Makes sense since Abrams creates both Lost & Fringe. Although I think that the Numbers didn't appear on Lost until after JJ left.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 12:23 a.m. CST


    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Yeah we didn't have that problem, but 4 or so of our channels wouldn't get sound so I had to watch while trying to read the subtitles from my TV. I still thought that it was an awesome episode though.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 12:26 a.m. CST


    by room23storeblogspotcom

    It was revealed that William Bell created the Shapeshifters since he was working for Walternate in order to spy on him. As for the Observers & the First People the creators have said that the first People are not the Observers, BUT we have seen them before. Its my guess that Sam Weiss is a first people.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 3:12 a.m. CST

    Plotting of that episode was all over the fucking place.

    by V'Shael

    If you can't decode the numbers without this incredibly rare book, then the people listening to the number stations couldn't have been close to cracking it. So why wipe their memories? To get the Fringe team looking into it?<br /><br />Why did no one point out how impossible hominid evolution would have been before the dinosaurs? (more than 300 million years ago)<br /><br />One talkbacker above gave the far more likely explanation, that they were time travellers. I wouldn't have thought of that, but it makes perfect sense. If you're going to hide in the past, hide so far back that 300 million years of extinction level events, erosion, etc.. will eliminate all traces of your presence.<br /><br />The broadcast, assuming it was from the First People, was in modern languages. So the transmission can't be more than a few hundred years old. Which means they, or their descendants, either have to still be around, or they spoke modern languages 300 million years ago, or both.<br /><br />If Walternate has some parts of the Vacuum device (presumably something to do with Vacuum energy), then there must be First People and a similar book, and similar number broadcasts in the Alt-verse. <br /><br />So many questions raised by the plotting, but none of the characters seem to be interested in asking them.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 3:58 a.m. CST

    The plot actually makes sense

    by Smoke Monster Loves Kate

    If you consider that the number stations are being run by humans who know about the First People, or something else.<p>Seamus Wildes is an anagram of Samuel Weiss (the bowling alley guy).<p>The Observers are either First People also or connected.<p>Walternate not only knew about the transmission but was able to hijack it. They weren't trying to silence the people listening, who were probably in no danger of breaking any code. He was just trying to get the attention of the Fringe team so he can manipulate Peter into assembling the device from this side. The device is probably only on this side and it will probably be revealed that this universe was the original (and the device was used to spin off the other one). Once the device is assembled here, the alternate universe guys will make a play to get it or use it and destroy this universe.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 4:03 a.m. CST

    fuck you for luring me in here using Universe as a title

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    fuck you

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 4:13 a.m. CST

    Have the Observers showed up in the alt-universe?

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    I don't remember, but has an Observer appeared somewhere in the background or crowd scene set in the alternate universe?

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 5:16 a.m. CST

    by filmstu2005

    Can I just say how much i fucking LOVED this episode??? Sure, it didnt have a whole lot of action in it, and sure Peter is still an idiot having not figured out that Altlivia is a total fraud, I mean come on, she doesnt even act like herself anymore after visiting an alternative universe??? Its plain as day. I guess he loves her so much that he can't help butdeny it to himself. I still don't buy their relationship. But yeah, besides all that, i LOVED THIS EPIOSODE. The theory and mystery that was proposed here was beyond intriguing, so breathtaking, i kid you not. I nearly lost it thinking of all the mass possibilities. The First People, yeah, it sounds highly implausible since it was impossible for humans to not only have evolved during the dinosaur age, or to also have such highly advanced techonology, but to even survive on the Earth's surface when the atmosphere itself was inhospitable. But then again...that was billions upon billions of years ago, so who the hell knows? Anyway, what truly gripped me was the the theory of the so-called Vaccum, the ultimate power of creation and destruction. The Big Bang theory. And then the theory of time. It is so fuckin amazing, to even consider how all these are combined, how we came to be what we are today, and the time our species has been given to evolve. The Big Bang is what brought us to this point. An accumulation of energy so severe that its explosive occurance basically resulted in the entire periodic table. Hence, life. But this episode presented a very daring and haunting thought. If the universe was created by the Big Bang, which resulted in the creation of galaxies, stars, planets, life, and so on, and the universe is a constantly expanding force, as most scientists seem to agree on, widening itself until its walls can no longer hold and it eventually collapses on itself, destroying its offspring in the process, well, how can any of us be sure that this all hasn't happened before? How many times has the Big Bang occured? How many times has life been granted and then denied? What if we're justtrapped inside a never-ending cycle of destruction and creation? And even more haunting....what lies beyond this bubble? Now THAT is some truly frightening sh!t. This is what the Vaccum symbolizes and its probably the scariest theory and force in existance. In actuality, the universe as we know it could be much older than anyone could have anticipated, and even much older in its generational cycle as well. Kind of reminds me of The Matrix Reloaded in which the Engineer tells Neo that he was the 9th reincarnation of The One, and that Zion had been destroyed on more than one occasion, yet each generation has no knowledge of the existence of its predecessors. How fucking scary is that?? Damn you fringe! See what you did to my brain now? I need to Ah...I love this show

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 5:31 a.m. CST

    by filmstu2005

    It seems like Walternate will harness the power of the Vaccum and use it to destroy our universe. Pretty cool stuff. But idk, wouldn't that destroy BOTH universes? maybe? And how come they don't have their own First People and pieces of the device. (Also, I'm still waiting for a huge plot twist to reveal in the end that the regular Fringe division u-verse isn't actually OUR world, but an Alternate universe in itself. Wouldnt that be awesome? Just the revelation of some small subtle point of difference would nice. But they probably wouldn't do that until the very end of the series, like the final scene of the last episode)

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 6:24 a.m. CST

    Lost shout outs

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    From what I understand a couple of key writers of early good episodes of Lost have been working on Fringe in the last season or two. There were a number of Lost references this episode, such as the shapeshifter falling out of the building a lot like Locke and the numbers being similar (but not exactly) to the Lost numbers. Added with the Alias nerd being a guest star it came off as the JJ Abrams reference hour. Fun as long as they don't do it every episode.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 7:15 a.m. CST

    Seriously ... this is one of the best shows ever

    by Itchy

    it's just entertaining episode in, episode out. They pay attention to all the little details (for instance, anyone notice that Altlivia's wardrobe is slowly changing to a harsh, more militaristic one on this side ... mirroring what she wore in the other universe) ? Yes, it doesn't all make total sense, but taken as a whole, it's one of the most intriguing and consistence sci-fi shows ever on tv. And the introduction of Altlivia has removed the one barrier to my totall embracing it - namely that I used to think Anna Torv was dull and boring. Now I see she can be positively adorable, as she lets the more vivacious (and more smoking hot) Altlivia shine through. All in all, this is the kind of show everyone on this forum should be fellating week in week out so the fucktards from Fox don't prematurely ax it.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Loved Nina's suspicion of alternate Olivia.

    by tonagan

    I still wonder who's going to figure it out first (that is, if anyone figures it out. The alternate Olivia just might get away when "our" Olivia comes back...)

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Prof. Pop Cult

    by hst666

    Someone please correct me if I am wrong but IIRC, an Observer was the reason Walternate missed the cure for his son. He was distracted by one. And wasn't there a congregation of the Observers outside a movie theatre possibly showing BTTF with Eric Stoltz?

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Re :: InActionMan

    by Real Deal

    It's already been established in interviews with JJ and the writers that the show is designed to run about 5 years. The plot is even mapped out that far.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 8:18 a.m. CST

    Number stations

    by SSquirrel

    actually date back to at least WWI. JJ Abrams and company may well have been utilizing real strings of numbers from broadcasts for both Lots and Fringe. Fauxlivia is only staying hidden b/c the people around her all the time are mostly the same ones who were over there w/her and they know the trip was a rough one, so small differences are ignored. I'm glad Nina Sharp noticed tho. Hoping that next week has Olivia get back and straighten things out over an episode or 2.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Anyone ever think that the First people

    by AKA_Gern_Blanston

    could be another Alternate dimension that was ahead of ours timewise - there are theories that there are infinite alternate dimensions, each similar to ours, but with different timing (as in, what I'm doing now another me in another dimension did two minutes ago, and another one will do it two minutes from now). Perhaps the first people are just a third dimension

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9 a.m. CST

    Observer theory

    by AKA_Gern_Blanston

    Another thought is that, while the Observers may not be the first people, perhaps, since they can see through time all at once, perhaps a third dimension built the machine, used it to devastating effect, and so the observers , as caretakers, took the machine, splintered it, and hid it in the far distant past? <p>remember the first time we met the Observers in season 1? It was because of that egg-shaped future dildo that Walter had to protect. The one that, in the end of the episode, drilled itself deep into the ground. Since we have yet to see a return of those or an explanation to them, perhaps they have something to do with it all...

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Smoke Monster Loves Kate

    by AKA_Gern_Blanston

    Though Seamus Wildes and Samuel Weiss are similar names, and you may be on the right track of the two being connected, they are not anagrams of each other. An anagram is a rearranging of the letters in a word or words to form new word(s). Those names have several letters unique to each and therefore are not anagrams. Though I still agree they may be related in some way - Weiss still hasn't really been explained yet...

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST


    by jtp8000

    You must feel awfully stupid after the guy thanked me for suggesting IMDB.So, yeah, I do feel better about myself.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST



    To fool Walter into putting together the Doomsday Peter Machine. They used Walter's weakness for "out there" theories to peak his interest as well as make him believe that maybe the Machine was not created by Walternate.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9:41 a.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    No I'm fine. You're still a punk ass little shit.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9:42 a.m. CST

    This was the best episode of the season by far.

    by HoboCode

    Kicked some serious ass. This finale is going to be awesome.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 10:30 a.m. CST


    by jtp8000

    I must have hit a nerve if you need to resort to name calling.</p> Too bad some people need to use anonymous web postings to get their anger out at because in real life that would get their asses kicked if they looked someone in the face and called them that.</p> Now either go away or drop it - the guy thanked me for the info -he didn't have a problem with my joke about Canada- why do you?

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST



    Reminds me of how Gillian Anderson got hotter after the first season of the X-Files. After she had all that work done.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 11:06 a.m. CST

    great episode

    by adml_shake

    Nina becoming suspicious of Olive, as is Peter too I think, Olivia slowly coming to the realization that these people aren't the monsters that her side thinks they are....

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    "Where online in Canada can I see Amber?"

    by jim

    Fringe is on City TV (and the episodes can be found at their website). I've never watched a show on their site so can not vouch for the video quality or ease of use. <p>With Rogers, if you have a digital cable box you also get On Demand which should have episodes of Fringe (for free). Episodes sometimes take a day (or several) to show up and are only available for about 3 weeks. Some shows have commercials, and sometimes you can't fastforward. Good if you miss an episode but I prefer to record stuff off TV and watch it that way (don't think you can record from On Demand).<p>You may need to have Rogers Internet service, but they also offer "Rogers On Demand Online", which I believe works the same way as the Cable On Demand (shows appear sometime after airing, only available for a limited time).

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST


    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    they are's Seamus Wiles not Wildes...Seamus Wiles is an anagram for Samuel Weiss also the three numbers that were in the episode towards the beginning...15-8-42...three of the lost numbers and they can be manipulated to get the others...divide 8 by 2 to get 4...multiply 8 by 2 to get 16...and add 8 to 15 to get 23...4-8-15-16-23-42

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST


    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Yeah and along with that this is what Lostpedia says about the Lost Numbers: <br> <br>In The Lost Experience it was revealed that these six numbers are the core values of the Valenzetti Equation, a mathematical formula designed to predict the end of humanity. The numbers in actuality are said to represent human and environmental factors in the equation, though their precise meaning is uncertain. One purpose of the DHARMA Initiative was to change the factors leading to humanity's demise, which will be indicated by an alteration in at least one of the human/environmental factors that succeeds in changing one of the numbers. However, in all its years of research, the Initiative failed to reach its goal. Despite much research and manipulation of the equation's values, the end result was always the same. <br> <br> In an interview with E! in 2009, Damon stated the following in regards to the Numbers: "Here's the story with numbers. The Hanso Foundation that started the Dharma Initiative hired this guy Valenzetti to basically work on this equation to determine what was the probability of the world ending in the wake of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Valenzetti basically deduced that it was 100 percent within the next 27 years, so the Hanso Foundation started the Dharma Initiative in an effort to try to change the variables in the equation so that mankind wouldn't wipe itself out." <br> <br> The Lost Encyclopedia also says that Numerology (adding the numeric values of letters in words to create a single number) goes back at least until the Greek Mathematian Pythagoras.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Raskolnikov_was_framed <p>I stand corrected

    by AKA_Gern_Blanston

    my apologies to Smoke Monster

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    still wonder

    by AKA_Gern_Blanston

    what that futuristic harmonic dildotic egg from S1 was...and if it has anything to do with this machine

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST

    as for the Number Stations

    by AKA_Gern_Blanston

    those actually DO exist <p>have a look <p>

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Yes, number stations do exist. But they are not

    by V'Shael

    some great mystery that the Department of the Defense would have to investigate.<br /><br />They are one-time pads for encryption purposes, used by spies all over the globe who might only have access to short wave radio.<br /><br />They are only officially denied or officially "we don't know" explained in the same way that the British government still officially denies MI6 or the US denies Area 51.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 12:24 p.m. CST


    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    not your fault...the way smoke spelled the name they weren't anagrams...there was an extra D

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Observers have been in every episode

    by Robber_Button

    Forgotten where in this season (it's a nice game but time consuming) but defo in the last ep. and defo in 1st ep.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST


    by ItsaTrap

    In "The Plateau" an Observer was on the bridge before Milo jumped off.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST


    by ItsaTrap

    In "The Plateau" an Observer was on the bridge before Milo jumped off.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    I'm not playing some online game or shit

    by ToMonicker

    Seriously, put all the stuff I need to know in the goddamn show, because I'm never going to play some game, read some tie-in or go to McDonald's to find out the "secrets" of FRINGE. <p> I'll let you guys do that. ;-) <p> The two Universe theory is kind of whack, that's why I'm counting on you guys to fill in what my early onset Alzheimer's keeps robbing me off. Was it ever specifically stated from where or whom the Observers are? <p> This still reminds me of Fredrick Pohls Coming of the Quantum Cats... As it develops other Universes are farther along than even what seems advanced to the first introduced players. So, with that in mind, it seems the Observers/First Ones are either from prior iterations or other universes.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Number Stations

    by NudeandAroused

    I am looking up this number station stuff. Pretty fascinating stuff

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Im in love with Astrid

    by filmstu2005

    So i was biting my non existant nails off for b/c i thought Altlivia was going to knock her off for getting too close. Thank God she didnt....Btw, I loved Astrids scenes, smart as fuck! love a chic with brains

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Wild Stuff

    by NudeandAroused

    I don't normally post two times to AICN, but the Number Stations are really cool to listen to! Then again, I guess I am easily amused.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Observer sightings

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Fringepedia has all of the Observer sightings on each episode page. scroll down to the Trivia section near the end. Fringepedia is as good a reference site as Lostpedia.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Seamus Wildes and Samuel Weiss are anagrams

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    By that I don't mean Seamus is an anagram of Samuel, but the two words on the left are an anagram of the two words on the right. Saying different is just being a Sheldon.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST

    They also have the symbol code decoded

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    for the symbols before each set of ads.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Is this show any good?

    by fiester

    I've never seen it.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 7:31 p.m. CST

    Re fiester :

    by Real Deal

    If you like Science Fiction it's the best thing on tv right now.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST


    by AKA_Gern_Blanston

    look up what anagram means - they're NOT anagrams the way you spelled them - remove the unnecessary d and they are - Seamus Wiles, not "Wildes", which is where the confusion comes in, and what the discussion stems from - you and smokemonste were spelling it wrong - but spelled correctly, yes they are anagrams

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Absolutley incredible episode last night...

    by elgato73

    and then my friends and I started play COD: Black Ops and guess what, number stations there too. Too fucking cool. Every Thursday, Fringe amazes me. This series is too God damn good for Fox and network television and its for that reason I'm worried that they'll kill it before we get a satisfying conclusion. Already about six episode into this season of Fringe, I've realized that this series makes Lost look like shit. The numbers from Lost were in last night's episode of Fringe too, weren't they. And as someone said above, Fringe IS a lot like Pohl's Coming of The Quantum Cats. Good call.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 8:50 p.m. CST


    by frankenstone

    The show is sort of good sometimes, except when it is totally boring, which is like half the time, or when it is completely predictable, the other half of the time. A whole lot of the show is ripped off from the X-Files, such as shapeshifters that have to be killed by a hit to a specific area of their anatomy, and the whole "monster of the week" thing. It also has a lot of plots stolen from Alias, such as "your best friend being killed and replaced by someone who looks just like her (him)", and superweapons buried around the planet in the distant past and clues in mysterious books and documents. It also seems intent on ripping off some of the ideas of LOST, such as the thoroughly tired numbers station idea. Okay, so most of the show is kind of crappy, really, but the character of Walter the Mad Scientist totally makes the show worth watching. He is fucking awesome, and the rest of the dumb shit that goes on doesn't matter or make much sense. Just watch it for Walter.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 8:55 p.m. CST

    actually fiester...

    by frankenstone

    You might want to wait and see if it gets canceled before they wrap up the ending. The ratings have been pretty low this season, and we might get left with a cliffhanger. (Though, in hindsight, I kind of wish BSG had been canceled in the middle of its last season, or that LOST had been canceled after season 3. Sometimes a dangling cliffhanger is much better than the ends the writers come up with!)

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Walter wakes and bakes every day, woooo....!

    by Nasty In The Pasty

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9:03 p.m. CST

    And I haven't spotted an Observer all season

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    They must be hiding them REALLY well this year.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST

    The red opening sequence

    by BizarroJerry

    Includes the phrase "first people".<p>And evil Olivia is looking hotter cuz she does herself up, wears more makeup, etc. Real Olivia is less concerned with that stuff, wears less makeup, etc.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9:40 p.m. CST

    A question to the Fringe nerds

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    And I don't mean nerd in a bad way, just with more knowledge than me about the details.<p> What was Walternate trying to find out with the experiments in the tank with our Olivia? He already knows how to come over here, he did it himself before. I'm hazy on what his reasons were for the experiments.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9:54 p.m. CST


    by DarthMrBelvedere

    I was a casual viewer until this episode. Now I'm def hooked LOST style

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST

    I like the copper Statue of Liberty..

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    it's definitely becoming a classic sci-fi show

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9:58 p.m. CST

    GIADA IS HOT! but prolly a cold fish in bed..

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    Giada's gonna get even more money... by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInception Review Nov 11th, 2010 11:04:17 AM ...Damn I have a huge jones for that babe. She's the only reason why I watch the Food Network. I just wanna throw her on that kitchen counter and... well, nevermind.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST


    by DarthMrBelvedere

    Why can;t we have more nude Olivia? we did it in the pilot. WE NEED MORE NAKED OLIVIA ASS

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST


    by DarthMrBelvedere


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    by DarthMrBelvedere


  • Nov. 12, 2010, 10:01 p.m. CST


    by room23storeblogspotcom

    He has come over, but its never really been perfected so he's studying her in order to (most likely) create an army of alternate people who can come and go at will.

  • Nov. 12, 2010, 10:02 p.m. CST


    by DarthMrBelvedere

    I saw her & her husband in a Ralph's last summer...that's all

  • Nov. 13, 2010, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Observer Sightings on Fringepedia

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Olivia <br> <br> The Observer passes next to Henry's taxicab shortly after Olivia enters the park where she expected to find the parallel universe's version of Massive Dynamic <br> <br> The Box<br> <br> The Observer enters the subway station just as Thomas Newton leaves the box and climbs the stairs. <br> <br> The Plateau<br> <br> The Observer stands on the pedestrian overpass near Milo Stanfield as he throws a bicycle from it. <br> <br> <br> Do Shapeshifters Dream Of Electric Sheep?<br> <br> The Observer walks toward the exit on the ground floor of Massive Dynamic, as Bolivia, Peter and Broyles meet with Walter.<br> <br> Amber 31422<br> <br> The Observer lingers fifteen feet to the left of Olivia's parked vehicle when Agent Francis informs Colonel Broyles that her car is parked near the Riverdale Mutual quarantine site. <br> <br> 6955 kHz<br> <br> The Observer stands with the crowd behind the crime scene tape after Peter discovers that the shapeshifter's dorsal memory chip is broken.

  • Nov. 13, 2010, 1:05 a.m. CST

    That episode didn't make any sense

    by maelstrom_ZERO

    <p>How could the numbers of the code correspond to latitude/longitude if the people First People that created the numbers lived eons ago, when latitude/longitude didn't even exist yet? Same thing goes for the modern foreign languages that the ancient broadcasts are spoken in. And why are these device pieces buried eons ago all happen to be conveniently on land, when tectonic shifts and glacial movement and a whole other bunch of factors would at least have 1 device piece ending up underwater?</p> <p>The theory that someone mentioned before about these first people being time travelers (i.e. the observers) is probably the only logical explanation, but still...lots of ridiculous questions that were brought up, which seemed to be glossed over by supposedly very smart people.</p> <p>And for some reason, I'm just not feeling the Earth-1 episodes. Maybe it's just me, but they're never as entertaining as the Earth-2 ones. I'm not sure what it is about the Earth-2 episodes that makes them consistently better than the Earth-1 eps, but it never fails that the Earth-1 eps are just lackluster. Last night's ep was just. . .kind of average really. Not as top-notch as the rest of the season has been, sadly enough.</p>

  • Nov. 13, 2010, 3:12 a.m. CST

    Second time in a row, huge unneeded chances

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    Why bother erasing memories, wasting a shapeshifter, putting Olivia in situations she'll make her "I'm suspecious" face? Just let the people crack the code and then Fringe division can investigate. It's just like the elaborate ruse that almost got Peter killed in the subway. What's the worry, Walter will figure it out? Like he wouldn't have an easier time figuring out the coverup. Oliva whoring it up (didn't she pork Peter unconcious and dispose of the body?) and generally acting out of character isn't exactly helping Walternet's secret plan.

  • Nov. 13, 2010, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Going back to the pilot...

    by V'Shael

    Was Olivia's partner from the Alt-verse? Was that ever confirmed?

  • Nov. 13, 2010, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Don't care about ratings Fringe is amazing

    by andrew coleman

    Hate people coming on this boards and bring up ratings. Ratings mean nothing. They give those boxes to the dumbest people in the country. I wish I had one. I catch Fringe every week. It's the best show on tv. It gets canceled and I'll never watch Fox again. Period.

  • Nov. 13, 2010, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Filmstu2005...Astrid was mimicing her Altverse persona

    by Cheif Brody

    last night. On the other side...the zero personality, number crunching alt-Astrid stands in front of a computer screen calculating odds and probabilities all day for the Fringe division. <p> She was doing the same thing in OUR universe last nite in cracking the code for our side. And she did it WITHOUT some "all knowing" techno assistance.

  • Nov. 13, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST

    My thoughts...

    by Cheif Brody

    1. Bald guys are behind the "device". They are the First People. That's why they are seen in old photos and artists renderings throughout history. <p> 2. The device is "The Observers" fail safe. Think they got themselves trapped on OUR side. Peter isn't suppose to build the device on OUR side...But Walter's kidnapping of alt Peter to our side threw a monkey in the wrench. <p> 3. Walternate and William Bell KNOW the Observers NEED our Peter to build the device. Walternate is helping him do it...with the plan that they can extract it, AND him when it's ready using Fauxlivia. <p> 4. Walternate is trying to fuck over the Observers by stealing "their" device to save his own universe...His only shot at saving his world and irraticating ours. <p> 6. Walter will figure this out...and allowing Walternate's plan to succeed saves Peters life...But, stopping it kills Peter...and everyone in our universe. <p> 7. This show is freaking AWESOME! Somewhere, Rod Serling and Ray Bradbury are smiling.

  • Nov. 13, 2010, 10:20 p.m. CST


    by Cheif Brody

    Kills Peter...and everyone in the ALT universe. <p> Walter will have to decide whether to sacrifice his "kidnapped, adopted" son that he should have never had a relationship with in the 1st place...or save our world. <p> Cant waitto see how he gets outta this one.

  • Nov. 13, 2010, 11:09 p.m. CST

    by heylookoverthere

    I wish they'd clear up walternate's relationship with william bell. It was said that he designed the shape-shifters for walternate. Then early in season 2 the shape-shifters try to prevent olivia from meeting with him. If walternate knew bell was a threat then why not just take him out? Also can't wait to find out why the first people built a universe destroying device powered by the dude from dawsons's creek.

  • Nov. 14, 2010, 12:57 a.m. CST

    William Bell

    by room23storeblogspotcom

    Bell was working for Walternate as a way to spy on and hopefully keep him in check. Once his inventions left his hands though he had no control over how Walternate used them or else he would have blown his cover.

  • Nov. 14, 2010, 9:36 a.m. CST

    William Bell

    by heylookoverthere

    Right, but if you rewatch the start of season two, when the shapeshifters are looking for newton's head. They're receiving orders via typwriter/mirror just like fake olivia does now, and they are aware of bell's duplicity and trying to stop olivia from meeting with him. So if his subordinates know that Bell is trying to help olivia prevent them from opening the portal between universes (which waltnernate eventually uses to come to our world, if only for like, a day)walternate should know too.

  • Nov. 14, 2010, 9:54 a.m. CST

    First People

    by time2323

    Could it be that the doomsday device is meant to displace either the altverse or our universe in time, while merging the two. Somehow allowing the two to exist in the same space, only at different times.

  • Nov. 14, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST


    by Extr3m1st

    What show have you been watching, this is the Fringe talkback..

  • Nov. 14, 2010, 2:14 p.m. CST

    This is another great genre show!

    by Mike_Hines_Says

    There really is a ton of good tv out there if you're willing to look for it!

  • Nov. 15, 2010, 2:28 a.m. CST

    Great shot of Olivia's ass

    by GLG_20

    about 5mins in as she is walking away in a nice tight pair of jeans<p>fap fap fap fap fap fap fap FAP FAP FAP FAPn FAP

  • Nov. 15, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Kevin Weisman

    by Caveman469

    Always brings the freaky.... too bad he was used so sparingly...