Nov. 4, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST
Has anyone ever done that?
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST
I saw this on its wide UK release months back. <p> <p> I can only guess at the heated debates that'll take place on this talkback. <p> <p> Believe me - this is not a comedy poking fun at the slaughter of innocent people. <p> <p> It's honest, insightful, unsettling, warm, shocking, and hilarious. Those are only several adjectives I could use. <p> <p> I hope no-on here flames this film before seeing it - you'd be doing a disservice to Chris Morris (bona fide genius), the film, and yourselves for not seeing it.
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:23 p.m. CST
See the movie, <em>then</em> hurl insults.
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:26 p.m. CST
fanatics and be targeted for assassination,after his movie is released? at least the guy has the guts to make this satirical movie.
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST
do I win a prize?
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:38 p.m. CST
... and always has. I've wondered what the Stateside reaction this film and the man himself would be from some of the... more vociferous?... minds might be. <p> <p> But this is the man who has been vilified and demonised in some of the more hateful press in his home country (the Daily Fucking Mail - a rag which sails close to inciting racial hatred on a daily basis) for creating some of the most intelligent, challenging and flat-out-fucking hilarious comedy of the last 15 years. <p> <p> A man who has the guts to make a spoof news show surrounding the media hysteria surrounding peadophiles (note I said the media hysteria surrounding it, NOT peadophilia itself) is hardly going to be worried about a few wingnuts taking offence, I would venture.
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:38 p.m. CST
... fookin' iPhone.
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:40 p.m. CST
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:42 p.m. CST
... it is, after all, a very British, suburban "comedy". I'm sure plenty of the pop-culture references were lost, but hey - we put up with that in every movie and sitcom anyway!
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:44 p.m. CST
And so far no Islamist fanatics seem to have targeted him. <p> Oh and in regards to Brasseye, here's the funniest part in my opinion: <p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRRw1ERj2Gc
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST
by Monkey Butler
I don't want to come off as sounding relativist, but you hear of groups throughout the West calling for more Christian involvement in parliaments, of eye-for-eye retaliation against everything from rapists to illegal immigrants and of pre-emptively attacking our 'enemies'. Sure it's a different context, but people holding those beliefs in Western countries would still, I'm sure, consider themselves 'good people' or 'good parents'. There's no reason why people who wind up blowing up tube stations or night clubs or office buildings can't think the same thing. <p> The common factor is always stupidity. Stupidity means undervaluing human life and being easily swept up in some historical and cultural tide that can't even be seen, much less understood by the stupid person. Stupidity means being totally deaf to the broader consequences of our actions, whether it be burning religious texts or flags, building cultural centres or settlements in occupied territories.
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:49 p.m. CST
A funny whore. But one who peaked with The Office.
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:51 p.m. CST
... thieved pretty much his entire schtick from Larry David and Garry Shandling... Doesn't make him less funny, but it's true.
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:52 p.m. CST
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST
And SPF - please change your name. I've finally seen the flick after your incessant whoring of it made me avoid it like the plague. <p> <p> It's, y'know, okay. Seen better. It's done. Get over it.
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:59 p.m. CST
Well done Beaks.
Nov. 4, 2010, 6:59 p.m. CST
even as the nasty buluga caviar swilling, martini guzzling conservative, there's something endlessly funny about watching bad guys be bad at their entire mission in life. I realize Mr.Morris comes from a UK perspective and most likely has radicals in his backyard (anyone want to truck up to Brimingham?), so I sincerely commend his courage for making ANY film that puts would-be-jihadis in a humorous light. Respect. But do not be surprised if--like Salman Rushdie before him--this guy has to go into hiding or has death threats against him. It won't be the first time a well meaning left-of-center artist has had to run for his life from the very intollerant people he sought to "humanize" and that's a true tragedy. I know I don't agree with all of Mr.Morris's worldview at all, but I hope even the passing observer knows the takfirist ideal to which some disaffected, displaced 2nd and 3rd gen immigrants subrscribe doesn't allow for this comedy.
Nov. 4, 2010, 7:06 p.m. CST
Nothing else more needs to be said. Except that Scottpilgrimfan needs another outlet.
Nov. 4, 2010, 7:08 p.m. CST
... were arrested, literally, on the next street to my workplace. Just around the corner. I'd probably walked past them in the corner shop when I'd wandered in for cigarettes on many a lunch break. <p> <p> And if anyone out there thinks Four Lions is removed from reality - go to Google. Chris Morris was as prescient with this as he was brilliant. <p> <p> Google "July 7 Inquests A-Team" from a week or two ago. <p> <p> The Jihadist idiots, mostly British born and bred, spent most of their time in the days before carrying out their plan and murdering people, arguing over text-message over who was going to be "Faceman" and who was going to be "B.A. Baracus" when they went on their "Mission".
Nov. 4, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST
Nov. 4, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST
should have made a movie about 'Cake'. That was fucking hilarious stuff. You can check it out on You Tube
Nov. 4, 2010, 7:11 p.m. CST
A few at my workplace were discussing it with great affection. This film is liked a great deal by some in that community. At the end of the day they there are some tit-ends that follow Islam, just like any other religion out there getting twisted.
Nov. 4, 2010, 7:13 p.m. CST
... the reason Morris hasn't been invited to present any awards, or would even accept the invitation, is that he lets his work speak for itself. He's not a fame-hungry little puppet doing what his agents tell him to do to keep him in the public eye and return favours. Unlike Mr G.
Nov. 4, 2010, 7:15 p.m. CST
So I gave it to my girlfriend.<p> True story that....
Nov. 4, 2010, 7:16 p.m. CST
...any chance you could post the audio? It's so rare to hear him talking seriously, and I'd love to hear him chatting and laughing about the Lion King. Also, did you see his other show 'Nathan Barley'?
Nov. 4, 2010, 7:21 p.m. CST
One of its sketches had a similar theme. Although it's protagonists were reluctant Jihadists. Four Lions takes it to it's natural conclusion. <br></br> <br></br>
Nov. 4, 2010, 7:37 p.m. CST
So everyone agrees profiling is wrong right? Well I don't but probably most of the libs on here are against it. So I look at Morris' photo and the first thing that comes to mind is "Homo". So is he gay? Or am I not profiling him correctly?
Nov. 4, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST
by Terence James
They're in Sheffield. Fucking Americans.
Nov. 4, 2010, 7:44 p.m. CST
Nov. 4, 2010, 7:47 p.m. CST
Can't wait to see this flick. Morris is a very brave man.
Nov. 4, 2010, 8:41 p.m. CST
Nov. 4, 2010, 8:47 p.m. CST
I was about to point out this quite cretinous error. Bit like saying they were New Yorkers when they are clearly Texans.<pIt's a great little film anyway, though not as funny as Morris flat out dark - BrassEye remains the standard. ComedyRobber_Button is also right that the rubbish terrorists on MonkeyDust got their first and are equally as funny (bring that show back! It was amazing!)
Nov. 4, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST
by frank cotton
IF you are killing, maiming, or attempting to kill or maim, 'infidels', or seriously considering doing same, for your religion, then either you, or your religion (or both), is/are fucked up
Nov. 5, 2010, 12:03 a.m. CST
by Terence James
I wouldn't have thought this film would play well in America though. Hope it does, deserves to do well.
Nov. 5, 2010, 12:22 a.m. CST
...or last, or next. Sad, shocking and fucking funny. He's one of a kind, Mr. Morris: only does what he really wants to do, so the resume isn't that long, but everything on it has been planned, written and executed superbly. And now the bugger has made a movie well up to his own standards. True satirists are a treasure; this fella could be our generation's Swift - he's that good. Please see the film.
Nov. 5, 2010, 2:49 a.m. CST
it really is.
Nov. 5, 2010, 3:15 a.m. CST
was fucking amazing. I'd never seen it until earlier this year, been turned off by the crap BBC trailers, but a friend convinced me that I'd appreciate it. Wow. The darkest comedy I've ever seen, anywhere ever. I love Ivan Dobsky, the poor lamb. "Hello, I'm Ivan Dobsky, the meat safe murderer, only I never done it. I only said I'd done it so they'd take my willy out of the light socket."
Nov. 5, 2010, 4:18 a.m. CST
It is a very funny film - well worth seeking out. There was suprisingl;y little flack when it was released here in the UK
Nov. 5, 2010, 5:30 a.m. CST
There was far more talk about how potentially controversial it is than there was actual controversy. But it's a good movie and was quite successful, which is nice. Can we drop this thing about how Chris Morris is a recluse that never does interviews? He's done like a million interviews for this movie and comes across as chatty and open as anything.
Nov. 5, 2010, 6:50 a.m. CST
This is why I love AICN. Shame series' 2 and 3 can't be got on DVD yet though, been dying to see the Paedofinder General skits and seeing them on youtube tends to annoy me when it's not a perfectly placed sketch. I've watched Four Lions a few times now and it's nothing short of a classic for the ages. Been following Morris' career the whole way and he's one of those rare cases where the term genius is entirely justified. The best comedy writer the UK has ever seen. Actually it was fantastic to see him team up with their other top writer/critic Charlie Brooker for Nathan Barley...a show that defies description. Nothing beats Brass Eye for me though! If you don't agree you're wrong and you're a grotesquely ugly freak. Love from the Bog Brained Murphy
Nov. 5, 2010, 7:06 a.m. CST
That drug is insanely good!
Nov. 5, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST
Great, GREAT movie. What CM/Beaks don't touch on is that the ineptitude of MI5/Met Police is lampooned just as effectively as the Jihadists. I don't know how much of the farcical murder of Jean Charles de Menezes (A Brazilian shot for looking 'asian' by Met Officers on July 22 2005) got Stateside, but his ghost would surely be nodding with grim satisfaction throughout FOUR LIONS' last act.
Nov. 5, 2010, 7:56 a.m. CST
Just Kidding. The Monty Python compare/contrast is very apt : Morris & Iannucci for me are the spriritual successors to the Pytrhons (Coogan etc. completeing the rest of the crew respectively), without meaning to put them in a box or anything, what they do in their own right stands apart etc.<p> Its great to see the love/interest pour out again since 'In The Loop' last time i guess, but don't forget 'My Wrongs #...'! Thats a great little short film too!<p> On the subject of British comedy everyone should also check out the Pychoville Halloween special...infact that along with 'The League of Gentlemen' Xmas Special (will always be the movie as far as i'm concerned) & 'A History of Horror with Mark Gatiss' would make for a great triple bill. And Michael Winterbottom's upcoming series with Coogan and Brydon should be well worth catching too, Coogans 'love' letter/ode to the North apparantly, amongst other things .<p>Paul Ross has nothing on me.
Nov. 5, 2010, 8:09 a.m. CST
Nov. 5, 2010, 8:22 a.m. CST
The guys who carried out the 7/7 bombings weren't arrested anywhere. They were suicide bombers and as such they were in tiny little pieces and big smears around the inside of an Underground train before the police even knew what was happening.<p> Unless you meant they were scooped into a bucket by a police forensics team close to your office???
Nov. 5, 2010, 8:24 a.m. CST
Fuck me! I thought I was the only person in the universe who freakin' loved that show!!!<p> A particular favourite of mine was the hideous middle class family naming their baby, and you got to hear the baby's thoughts.<p> "Oh, he looks like a Hercules, shall we call him Hercules?"<p> "You cunts, you absolute cunts, Hercules? What the fuck is wrong with you. Why not Dave, or Steve? Fucking Hercules!!"
Nov. 5, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST
"Alabaster Codify with the new buzz about Buzz, the bum buzzard. Did he fly in a rocket, or fly up a socket?"
Nov. 5, 2010, 8:58 a.m. CST
A new word<p> Another great little thing about this film: The way Barry apes or channels Ray Winstone in Heist Movie/Cockney-crime-caper fashion.<p> Oh, and taking the mickey for liking Maroon 5 in retaliation at the very end: I did this to a mate or compared Steely Dan to them for comparing me & my mates to Trashbat. He was not happy. The "There's shades of grey too you know!" "Yeah I know, i'm looking at fifteen of them right now!" sentiment did not amuse him back.<p> Stupid people also thought our east london 'group' might have extremist views or intentions too, because my friend was fond of growing a beard through the London bombings, putting Morris's edited Bush speech on Uni commissioned free music Cd's ("I recently received a touching from my Daddy in the Whitehouse. As much as I don't want my Daddy to fuck me; i'm willing to take it from him, Aggresively, in the face...this is a prescious gift /NEXT LINE REMOVED FOR FEAR OF HUGE BACKLASH...and to all the women and children of Iraq: Go home and die") editing for Muslim news/culture programmes eventually etc, as just one example. The stupidity of how naive or ignorant you can be to how other people view and perceive you based on your actions & words (seperate from the stupididty of just you in yourself and others in general) and the way THEY view or miscontrue you, set alongside the absurdity of the appearance of things such as these groups and an invidividuals pychology/motivation, against the actual reality, is what on a very human level Morris nailed and i love.
Nov. 5, 2010, 9:04 a.m. CST
http://tinyurl.com/5t6gbn <p>Monkey Dust's finest, along with Ivan & Mr Hoppy!
Nov. 5, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST
http://tinyurl.com/6erz6j <p>Thats the Britain I know.
Nov. 5, 2010, 10 a.m. CST
Agree that "the ass in NASA" is one of Brass Eye's great moments. <p> This is also ace: <p> http://tinyurl.com/2e4oc6n
Nov. 5, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST
Right, ah'll fuckin' have you pal. See you? Yar fuckin' deed!
Nov. 5, 2010, 11:27 a.m. CST
Very excited for this film. Terrific interview, Beaks.
Nov. 5, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST
Good interview, Beaks.
Nov. 5, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST
Is it really that funny? I don't wanna waste my time with some unfunny shit.
Nov. 5, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST
by Axl Z
Went to see this early this year when it came out over here (Feb?) Found it really good, Morris has a slow build up in his films of comedy with everything becoming unsure of what it is thus humour. Great film, bring back The Day Today and British comedy will be saved!
Nov. 6, 2010, 4:35 a.m. CST
Hi Dude_gimme_tabs. I think the arrests that TommyGavinsEgo mentions are the ones that relate to the 21/7 attempted bomb plot where they were all arrested. They were seen as very much copycats of 7/7.
Nov. 6, 2010, 8:35 a.m. CST
by Fixthe Fernback
Morris trying to sell fantasy drugs to dealers on London's streets wearing a nappy, a bomber jacket and a Balloon shaped hat. Genius indeed.
Nov. 6, 2010, 11:27 a.m. CST
Morris is one of my comedy heroes and has been since the original airings of 'On The Hour'. So weird seeing him on 'The IT Crowd' though. He seemed out of place on that show, but I still love the guy for all the major, major laughs he's given me over the past 20 years.
Nov. 7, 2010, 4:06 a.m. CST
about Morris's 'Peadogedon' Brasseye episode is that is a comment on the media's hysteria regarding paedophilia. It isn't. Morris himself has said that he did the show because he thought it was funny. He climed that before he had children friends with kids always harped on about what a blessing it was to be a parent, and how great their kids were. Then when he became a parent he found that it was all nonsense. The comedy is more aimed at unsettling that sort of cosy idea of parenthood rather a comment on the media.
Nov. 7, 2010, 8:53 a.m. CST
There's a good interview with Morris from 2001. he explains that although the intention of Brasseye itself was to lampoon the media in every episode, the points he was raising with the Peadphile episode were nothing to do with that. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2001/aug/05/news.film