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Kevin Smith releases a teaser poster for his horror flick RED STATE!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Over Halloween Kevin Smith decided to dole out a treat for his fans, namely the first teaser poster for his upcoming horror flick starring John Goodman, Red State. I quite like the image. There's a lot of atmosphere to this image and when you click on it below you can see the bigger version and also Smith's notes on how it came to be. I like that the dude is using the people around him for creative input into the process instead of sending his materials to a design factory where a prepackaged marketing strategy pops out at the end if you feed it enough cash. I, for one, am very curious to see what Smith has done with this flick. Here's the poster! Enjoy!

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  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:02 p.m. CST


    by rockness

    will this movie suck or rule?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:02 p.m. CST


    by rockness

    on one hand, goodman rules. 99 percent of the time. maybe dunkin donuts being the noted exception. on the other hand. smith sucks a lot.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Is it serious? Or like Dogma?

    by Rex Carsalot

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Not that Dogma *wasn't* serious

    by Rex Carsalot

    But you know what I mean.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:03 p.m. CST


    by ls420

    does nothing for me, even with a low budget, you could find a better graphic artist.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST


    by Dead_Geek


  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Smith CANNOT do atmosphere

    by DirkD13"

    I like the dude, I really do. He's a good writer, but a TV director at best.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Fuck Smith

    by Philbert

    and his bigoted, idiotic world views.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:09 p.m. CST

    I'm sure this won't be controversial...

    by jimmy_009


  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:10 p.m. CST


    by mr.underwater

    Looks like every other pre-packaged horror teaser poster.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST

    What genre will he fail at next?

    by Nice Marmot

    Sci-Fi? Western?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST

    More dialog that human beings would never say in a real conversa

    by Zombieflicker

    Does anybody know anyone that talks like they're in a Kevin Smith movie? Is that Jay or Silent Bob behind the sheet?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Cute Bob, real cute.. Alright, alright, c'mon, where's my Beer

    by TheJudger

    Well can't you answer me?????? Okay, don't answer me. Boy are you weird... I'm calling Laurie. I wanna know where Paul and Annie are... <P> This is going nowhere.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Hey Kevin . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    Staind, Slipknot, Puddle of Mudd and Drowning Pool called. They are all reporting missing sketches for their next album covers.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST

    One of the worst posters ever

    by Browncoat_Jedi

    Poorly constructed photoshop disaster. If you think that looks good, you know nothing about graphic design.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    This is a horror flick. But not a gore-horror.

    by V'Shael

    More the sort of horror that comes from when a moderate looks at a fundamentalist.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Needs more fake digital grime, scratches, folding crease scars,

    by TheJudger

    I didn't hear no bell.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Did his dog get a hold of that poster?

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    Scratch marks. Oooooooh, scary.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:20 p.m. CST

    and spooge stains

    by TheJudger

    and maybe a random pubic hair and some lint as well, and a lone crusty booger. All digital mind you....

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Those who hate the poster, or his previous movies

    by V'Shael

    well, this clearly isn't for you. And since the guy has stopped trying to reach a non-existent wider audience with his work, he'll be successful no matter how much bitching you do. <p> This movie is being made for 4 million. A theatrical release will see him make something like 10-12 million. If he sells the DVD rights alone, he'd make his money back. <p> In any business, if you can turn your investors 8 million profit in a year, pretty much guaranteed, you're a success. <p> And whether you like it or not, Smith has the audience that will give him that 10-12 million in ticket sales.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:21 p.m. CST

    The Exorcist poster...

    by Flibbertygibbet

    now THAT was glorious. This is rubbish. Don't mean to be negative, but it is.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    I like the poster

    by kafka07

    and I'm very curious about a horror movie from Kevin Smith, the guy who constantly makes dick jokes.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST


    by Flibbertygibbet

    I've enjoyed a lot of Smith's work, and I love a good biblical horror. If this film gets good reviews, I'll see it. But make no mistake, that poster was put together in 5 minutes.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST

    I'm curious. That poster has a 70s horror vibe.

    by The Reluctant Austinite

    I've not been a fan of Kevin's most recent films, but I'll be curious about this one. Seems he's stepping out of his comfort zone, and that's when things could get interesting.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Mr Smith I gotz an idea

    by TheJudger

    Overhead naval shot of a hot girls crotch blossum covered with a pair of "Sultry" - yes that is a "Throw Momma From The Train" quote- Sultry red panties, and then a huge black colored dildo coming towards her snatch to bad the rating system wont let it in a little. Anyways. On the dildo is a picture of the cross, which is transparent, but get this, inside the dildo is a bunch of those rotating beady thingies and they have the number 666 on them. So we see them in the cross. And under the belly button is a tattoo that says "Red State" <P> You Can Do It.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Kevin smith for the win

    by j2talk

    to hell with the movie, when do we get another Evening with Kevin Smith DVD????? One of the cable nets need to give him a talk show,1 uncensored hour a nite would no doubt be funnier and more entertaining than that new show from a certain over-hyped redheaded "comedian"

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Good luck, Kevin Smith

    by Heckles

    Not sure why your last few flicks tanked, hope this one turns it around. I'll more than likely skip it... just don't like horror films.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST

    A teaser released on Halloween...

    by DrMorbius

    Must be a Trick...<p>certainly isn't a Treat!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:35 p.m. CST

    I like it alot

    by Shpadoinkle

    Very to the point but compelling. Enjoy most of his films anyway so i'll see this on release. There really isn't much scarier than the subject matter at hand anyway so once he used the 4 million to capture the loathsome fundamentalism spot on this'll be good

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Not really a fan of Kevin Smith...

    by DigitalBeachWar

    However my interest has been piqued.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:36 p.m. CST

    I'm a Hater of most things Smith. However...

    by Stalkeye

    ..if this film is an actual Jab at those right(ous) Wingnuts within Idaho whereas the uber christian fanatics and staunch repubs*cough*tea party* go about on killing sprees aka the crazies, then I'm SOLD! But this may not be the case, ergo Epic Failure in the making.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST

    awful poster. so cheap looking.

    by therootstheroots

    it's like one of those direct-to-dvd horrors starring michelle yeoh's stunt double wendy leech. Plus can't stand smith's brand of shite.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Wait a tick

    by TheJudger

    if your POV was looking at the belly button to crotch area like it was the ocean from the shore. and your eye level was just a few mm above the belly skin. You could probably get away with implying that the dildo is in vag somewhat. The Red State Tattoo would be upside down but the Cross could be right side up, so it's up to the viewer to turn the poster around so the cross is upside down but the Words Red State are readable. Some beads are all 999, some are all 666. Just thinking out loud here.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    This poster was created by one of the assistants

    by eric haislar

    Read his blog. You will understand. He hired a ad agency to do some posters but someone who has worked on the film the whole way though made this and he liked it. So cut him some slack.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith is making horror movies now?

    by KilliK

    i guess the fat nerd finally acknowledged that his dedicated fanbase has stopped showing even the slightest interest to his shitty movies,so he did something different,a genre horror flick to be precise which is always the most fase bet to make a hit,in the hope that he might resurrect his decaying career.<br /> <p>not that i say that because of hate,i really do like him as a person and artist and i wish him the best but i got fed up with how exaggerative the people were when they praised him as the second coming of christ when he was a newcomer director and how he greedily exploited his magnus opus Clerks property,even worse than what Lucas did with SW.<br /> <p>anyway,that's just me.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST


    by DrMorbius

    My interest peaked a few Kevin Smith films ago...

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:40 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    The movie is about a pedophile priest. Played by Michael Parks.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Yeah, V'Shael . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    . . . cause we're ALL discussing money, here.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST


    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    A horror story about the 100 liberal fanatics who are voted out of office tomorrow. I would pay money for that!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST

    not really red

    by Eddie_Dane

    I can't get over the fact that he's pushing this as anti conservative when it's based on a die hard Democrat

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST

    I like it.

    by HorrorFan81

    I'm still skeptical that Smith can make a quality horror movie. But that poster has piqued my interest. I'll approach with an open, but cautious, mind.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Smiths career is fine

    by Affleckwasthebomb

    Nothing he's ever directed has lost money. Even mall rats made a profit. eventually. No matter how much people hate a guy if he makes them money he'll get to work. It'll be interesting to see how Smith does. I've no idea, this is so radically different for Kev that it could go either way.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith lost all credibility...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...with the donkey sex scene in CLERKS II. Of course, his Superman Lives script was shitty too. <p>Wait a minute. Has the fat man EVER made a good movie? </p> Damn.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Thanks erichaislar

    by Stalkeye

    Anyway, another Smith movie to avoid. "Move along, move along.."

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Incredibly talented dude...mediocre movies though

    by FlandersBum

    I love listening to this guy talk. Very smart, intelligent, funny as hell kinda guy. It just doesn't carry over to most of his films for whatever reason.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    If it's not money, then how else do you define success?

    by V'Shael

    The guy gets to do what he loves for a living, he's rich, has a hot wife, can write comics when he wants. He's not beholden to any studio, and he sure as fuck doesn't need our love and approval.<br /><br />By any realistic measure, he's a success. But since his box office hasn't been particularly great, especially with Zack and Miri being the lowest grossing Seth Rogan movie to date, how else can one counter the usual spiels of how the guy has failed, is failing, will fail at another genre, etc... etc... ?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    What a lame ass poster. Honestly. It sucks.

    by chadiwack

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Chasing Amy is a good movie.

    by Sailor Rip

    I like his some of his other films but I can't see anyone saying Chasing Amy is a bad film.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:54 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    What was wrong with the donkey sex scene? I laughed my ass off and still to this day I can't get the image of that dude spiting in to his hand to fuck the donkey.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Oh, I get it, a horror movie with political undertones.

    by Orbots Commander

    (Rolls eyes) I mean, Red State? I'm no Righty, in fact a New Yorker, but do we want to sit in a theater to watch Smith's slings and arrows directed towards conservative, religious minded, Middle America? I'm so done that. I just want a terrifying horror movie without the left/right politics, please.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    His directing sucks. <p>His writing sucks.</p> <p>His movies don't make money. </p> <p>He is a fanatic political activist.</p> <p>He is morbidly obese. </p> <p>His "wife" cheated on him (with his knowledge) and is about to leave him. </p> <p>His career came to a screeching halt with the donkey sex idea from that God-awful CLERKS II film.</p> Why would anyone think that this loser is "successful?"

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1 p.m. CST

    Orbots Commander

    by eric haislar

    It's not a political film at all. It's about a pedophile priest and a group of kids that encounter fundamentalism gone to the extreme in Middle America. I don't see how that is really very political.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1 p.m. CST


    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    You didn't think that there was anything wrong with the donkey sex scene in CLERKS II? <p> Damn! </p> You will probably enjoy this shitfest and the rest of Smith's shitty films...and you should probably see a psychiatrist.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1 p.m. CST

    so he's at ICP-level popularity now?

    by durhay

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:02 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    How do you know his wife cheated on him? I listen to smodcast every week all he does is praise her and how much he loves her they seem to have a pretty good relationship going.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Orbots Commander...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Exactly! <p> The problem with people like Kevin Smith is that they don't realize that 82% of the country do NOT consider themselves "liberal." 82% of the county considers themselves either Moderate or Conservative. </p><p> So, Kevin Smith decides to make a film that stereotypes "middle America" and ridicules the social and religious views of everyone that he disagrees with?</p> <p>Go figure. </p> <p>How much money did CAPITALISM: A LOVE STORY make? I suspect that this will make the same amount.</p> After all, Kevin Smith is just Michael Moore with an inferiority complex and a few art classes.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:05 p.m. CST


    by Orbots Commander

    I hope that was sarcasm, because my sarcasm detection meter was turned off, but yeah, that premise is totally political.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:08 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    Again what was wrong with it? Everyone is entitled to there own option but really what was so bad with that scene? It was funny, gross, a fucking strange that they all could not look away. Plus it lead to them going to jail where they had no choice but to confront themselves with the reality of there lives that they where losers and never followed though with anything and all they ever had in life was each other.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    82 percent of the country is liberal or conservative my ass. Where did you get that number Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity? Let me guess it's from one of those biased Fox News Polls.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:14 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    Damn it! This site really needs a edit button. 82 percent of the country is Moderate or Conservative my ass. Where did you get that number Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity? Let me guess it's from one of those biased Fox News Polls.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Huge Smith fan

    by enderandrew

    I was always a huge Kevin Smith fan. I still think Chasing Amy and Dogma are great scripts. The problem is that I lost interest in him after reading his blog and Twitter of non-stop self-deprecating funk and pot smoking.<p>I wish him well, and I hope that stretching beyond the comfortable with this film gets him back on the right track.<p>That being said, I'm sure 95% of this TalkBack will be a bunch of haters talking shit unfairly about Smith, despite the fact they are jealous and lack his talent.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST

    I like the poster

    by future help

    the movie...we shall see. Goodman is cool.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST


    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    You didn't find anything wrong, disgusting or morally questionable about paying money to watch a scene about a couple of losers and the possibility of fucking a donkey? <p>That is very out-of-touch, my friend. I guess that Kevin Smith didn't find anything wrong with it either. That scene alone destroyed the film and Kevin Smith's chance at an elite Hollywood film career. </p> Maybe in this film, Kevin Smith will include a sex scene in the next film between a hillbilly grandmother and a little boy. *Rolls eyes.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:18 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    Thats the joke! of course it is! that's why it is funny?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:19 p.m. CST

    V'Shael got it right.

    by Carl XVI Gustaf

    He's living most AICN talkbacker's dream life. I bet people like ccchhhrrriiisssm would play the donkey in CLEARKS III if asked. Pro Boner.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:19 p.m. CST


    by ccchhhrrriiisssm <p> </p>

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST

    I sense a thread de-rail...

    by Orbots Commander

    But anyway, nobody cares what percentage of the country leans which way politically. My argument was, just like bringing up politics is considered bad form on a first (or second, or third) date, injecting somebody's blatant politics (just look at that poster) into a horror movie is considered equally bad form.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:23 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    So wait! you where fine with the whole movie up until the donkey scene? That one scene of the film ruined the whole film for you? So all the language and porch monkey jokes did not offended you? but some dude fucking a donkey did? does any one else see the ridiculousness of that statement?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Carl XVI Gustaf

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Damn, you're a moron! I don't get kicks out of watching donkey sex. It is sick. Anyone who likes it is sick. Anyone who thinks that it is funny is sick. Anyone who would try to sell a movie with this as a subplot is sick.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Why are Kevin Smith haters obsessed with him?

    by andrew coleman

    Look at pathetic ccchhrrriiisssm listing all of these reasons to show he's not successful. Um what have you done idiot? And why are you so obviously obsessed with him? Making up bull shit to prove a point, saying his wife cheated on him, what are you a private detective? Also why is it only conservative loons are always having to prove a point? I guess as the world becomes more progressive and less white these types have lost it and feel they need to get loud and stupid to prove something? Making up some percentage about how 87% either consider themselves moderate or conservative... Well which is it? Moderate and conservative are very different so rounding them together into one stat makes no sense. It's like me saying 77% of people consider themselves Moderate or liberal... Most people consider themselves moderate idiot. And so what if tomorrow there is a shift from Democrat to Republican? Just do I don't know two seconds of research and you can see that this always happens in American politics! People are so stupid these days it hurts. But like I said pathetic people on the conservative side are scared shitless that gays can get married or that Christian values have gone down the drain blah blah blah so I guess it's time to get loud and proud, whatever. It's all getting really old. The only reason you hate Kevin Smith btw and Red State is due to jealousy, the dude is rich for making movies he wants to make and by being nerdy. So you're jealous. Move on.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    its a pity he never got a chance to make that Fletch movie

    by KilliK

    with that My name is Earl actor.i think it would have been great.<br /> and though Chasing Amy is indeed a good film,Dogma is utterly a complete POS crapfest.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST


    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    I can eat an entire meal and enjoy it. However, if I were to see a roach in my food or a rat in the restaurant, I will leave and never visit the place again.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST


    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    This is a TALKBACK, you stupid fuck! I could care less about this moron (Kevin Smith) and his fanatical stereotypes in the attempt to make money via film. <p>However, I don't mind pointing out why no one takes this fat idiot with a few art classes seriously. </p> Besides, who made you the ranking member of the Free Speech Gestapo?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Oh man it's gonna be all catholic.

    by Walterego

    I forgot that thing Smith has about Catholicism and religion. I was thinking this would just be a regular horror film with some humour in it. Well it should still be good, just like Dogma was funny even if you don't care much about the theological issues.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:35 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    So porch monkey jokes are ok with you? Donkey sex no? So donkey's get more respect from you then black people?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:35 p.m. CST

    The poster sucks

    by Aloy

    Don't give a crap about his pot smoking, plus size or politics as long as he puts the story up on the screen and he hasn't done that much of late. <p>The poster plain and simple blows, remove the scratchy, folded photo look and my reaction is uhhh, lame. All the blah, blah on his site about every cent going up on the screen is a transparent attempt to justify not having any backing due to a poor track record. (p)

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Are these pronunciation insults the best that you can do, you stupid fuck? Do me a favor and go fuck your own donkey in the privacy of your own parents' basement. Of course, the donkey is too good for you.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:38 p.m. CST

    erichaislar: I'm African American...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm stupid ass. I don't like donkey-human sex...and don't want to pay money to hear about it in a movie. <p>Why is this so difficult for you to understand? </p>

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    Nice try but all Gallup polls show that all African Americas are liberal.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    I don't have to prove my race for some ignorant, racist and depraved moron like you.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:42 p.m. CST

    erichaislar: 90% does not equal 100%

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    I just happen to be in the 10% who don't buy into the propaganda from the Democratic Party -- the party of slavery, Jim Crow and segregation.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST

    fat jokes

    by bobbyjoe1985

    That'll show him!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:45 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar mean like your party that would like to do away with worker's rights, unions, minimum wage wage, work provided health care, all so they can save a buck or two and improve there bottom line. I don't know one of those sounds like slavery to me and it sure is not the democratic choice.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    You're a dick. A moron. A racist. An ignorant generalizer. An asshole. And probably a worthless, useless fat piece of shit living in the your parents' basement. <p>People have known that I am black long before Obama came into the picture. I was applauding the choice of Samuel L. Jackson as a Master Jedi in The Phantom Menace over 13 years ago here on AICN. </p>Learn your history, moron.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Quint, come on man, this is bad

    by scrote

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Go back to the weed.

    by jimbojones123

    It doesn't make you deeper. Promise.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    HAHAHA ok that was funny. Sam Jackson HA!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST

    "Fear God"....uh oh. I can see the picket lines now.

    by Mike_D

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:50 p.m. CST


    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    I never said that I was a Republican. I am an independent voter with moderate, conservative, libertarian and a few liberal views. <p>I believe in unions, but not in the corrupt union leaders who care less about the views of the people who they are supposed to lead.</p> <p>I believe in workers' rights. That is why I am against taking more of our paychecks via taxes to pay for welfare leeches. </p> <p>I believe in American free enterprise, which is why I don't believe in exhaustive government regulation over every aspect of business. </p> <p>I am against the death penalty -- but only because justice is not yet blind. However, if a person admits to having to heinous crimes, they should die. </p> Does that clear things up for you?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:55 p.m. CST

    kevin smiths fashion makeover.

    by alice133

    the white boy hiphop thing was gettin kinda tired.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    This isn't ancient history, moron. The Democratic Party was the party of segregation when my parents were young. It was the Democrats who made them sit at the back of buses, drink from different fountains, attend different schools, use different restrooms and live in areas of the city that were falling apart. This isn't a hundred years ago. It was less than a generation ago. <p>When the DNC became increasingly liberal and socialistic in nature (combining democracy with Eugene Debs economic philosophy), they realized that they were a dying.</p> <p>So, they needed more diverse interest groups to obtain votes that would give them a plurality. So, overnight, the DNC went from segregation to welfare suppliers by dealing with corrupt unions and an increasingly corrupt NAACP.</p> The rest is current events.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    You're so incredibly stupid, you can't even tell how racist you are! You stereotype all blacks as blindly supporting the liberal fanatics who will be voted out tomorrow. Moron. "Please die?" Get a job, leech.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST


    by Darth Busey

    Seriously, dude has been away for far too long.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2 p.m. CST

    wow look at the lunatic left

    by torontoxic

    So well represented yet again. <P> Is Vegas taking odds on how bad this will suck? I'd like to drop a few pennies on this thing being below average. I like to bet to place. <P> Red White and Blue is smart. Kevin Smith is not. This will be transparent coastal America self important bullshit with the usual overly vocal minority amazed at how bad it does financially when it agrees with everything their pseudo enlightened pea brains think. <P> Cop Out shellacked the coffin shut and Kevin Smith's career will never be taken seriously again. The fat prick just fucked up too many chances. A 12 year old with 2 months allowance saved up could make a better movie than Kevin Smith and another wasted studio budget.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Gotta run back to work.

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    After all, someone has to pay for Teh Suk's welfare benefits.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:05 p.m. CST

    spectrebeeyatch - well said

    by slickerynodes

    now about the movie... <P> i just hope it shows lots of molestation!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:06 p.m. CST

    after CopOut, I fear Kevin Smith, Not God!!!

    by JackGraham

    saw it a few days ago and it was an embarrasment for all concerned. truly awful.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    You fucking dick. I don't have to prove my race to any moron like you. <p> But...want a pic? Here is one from Christmas.</p><p> </p><p>Hopefully, I won't have to stand by some Nazi skin color chart to prove just how "black" that I am.</p>

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Teh Suck...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Need another? Or are you still going to make up lies, you racist mother fucker?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk

    by 2LeggedFreak

    I have done plenty close to what Kevin Smith has done...and I always wipe my bottom carefully each time.<P> <P> A triumph of geek hype over actual talent; Smith is a mediocre one trick pony whose output got very tired very quickly.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Smith's worst failing

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Outside of the fact that he can't actually film a decent story once it gets outside of one on one conversation pieces, Smiths worst failing is that all his characters even the women have his stipud juvenile "voice". <P> <P> He only writes one character and thats Kevin Smith.<P> <P> Awful

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk

    by 2LeggedFreak

    You see my imbecilic friend that was a joke...the joke being that I have done better poops than Kevin Smith's output.<P> <P> Would your IQ even register on any known scale...berk !

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Teh Suck...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    You asked for a pic. Want another? Jeezus. You are the biggest dick to ever haunt the AICN TB. You are a perfect example of what went wrong with AICN about seven years ago.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Yeh Suk

    by 2LeggedFreak

    You're so stuck in your babbling rant that you have lost the power to read coherently.<P> <P> Go on, go CAPS again to show how big you are.<P> <P> Dolt !

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Teh Suck

    by 2LeggedFreak

    If the grown ups are talking that leaves you out.<P> <P> Now shut your cock-holster and move on little one.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Don't know anything about this project yet...satire or hit piece

    by ravenloff

    The obvious religious connotations between religion and the contemporary moniker "Red State" are hard to miss. What's KS trying to say? Going down the lesbian anti-family horror porn of "Silent Hill"?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Cant we all just get along

    by TheJudger

    you knew this was coming.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk

    by 2LeggedFreak

    If your 10th Grade teacher could see this now it would be even more detention than you got for whacking off in bible class.<P> <P> You seem to be under the impression , common with most children, that you are the one who is 100% right and the only one able to voice their opinion.<P> <P> Perhaps, after viewing some Smith ratings on Rotten Tomatoes you might understand that there are peopel out there who don't think he's God's gift. And the other thing that might surprise you is the view that, when Kevin is in the business of selling stuff, then we all, as consumers have a right to comment on the product.<P> <P> You like it, lots don't. Live with it and grow up.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:28 p.m. CST


    by elsewhere

    Do you know how the internet works? Take a picture and put a timestamp on it dumbshit. Anyone can google a black person.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Smile though your heart is aching

    by TheJudger

    Smile even though it's breaking. When there are clouds in the sky, you'll get by. If you smile through your fear and sorrow. Smile and maybe tomorrow You'll see the sun come shining through for you. <P> Light up your face with gladness. Hide every trace of sadness. Although a tear may be ever so near. <P> That's the time you must keep on trying. <P> Smile, what's the use of crying? You'll find that life is still worthwhile.<P> If you just smile :)

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Is a grown up response to my last post beyond you.<P> <P> YES IT IS !!!!!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Smith seemed so painfully '90s during the '00s

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    Now he's got a movie called 'Red State' which maybe would have been topical during the first Bush 43 administration.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:33 p.m. CST

    No its not

    by 2LeggedFreak

    I've kissed a lady for instance...something you might achieve one day if that angry looking acne ever goes away.<P> <P> Stop picking you'll only make it worse. !!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Libs, Conserves, can't we all agree on one thing?

    by Stalkeye

    That being how lame Smith's Movies are and worst; him trying to be funny and hip during interviews.soory but Chasing Amy was not a good Film.By the way, i support geeks who made it big, but to be honest Smith lacks talent when it comes to making Movies and i have NO respect for anyone who would dis jack Kirby so fuck him.However,I head his run on Daredevil was good however.(karen Page dying from AIDS was a bold step.)didn't his Comic sho secret stash closed down BTW?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Teh You Suk...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    YOU were the one who demanded a photo, dick. I asked if you want another picture. Want a recent one? An older one? Damn, only an idiot who likes Kevin Smith shitfest films would be a racist and not know it!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk

    by 2LeggedFreak

    wishing people dead becaue they don't agree with your world view...what are you, fucking insane.<P> <P> I'd never wish you dead, just better educated and perhaps medicated occasionally.<P> <P> Psychopathic twat.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    You are a pantie waste. What an asshole! Even your racist insults and gestapo-like stereotypes are moronic.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Teh U Suk...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    I don't typically use time stamps. I have a few from the pics of friends. Let me find one. Think up an apology, Jackass.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk

    by 2LeggedFreak

    When have I lied ?<P> <P> Was it the time when , because you can't read, you misinterpreted my comment ?<P> <P> Oops no, I haven't lied !!!<P> <P> Its just that I should die for thinking you are an unthinking knob !!!<P> <P> Guilty !

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Smith needs to retire

    by rhine1784

    From writing, directing, and producing. Stick to what you do best. Being fat on airplanes.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST

    I'm going as the White Sheet

    by MrPoop

    For Halloween next year. <p> And Kevin Smith sucks, this movie is going to be horrible but it all will not matter because his pathetic followers will see anything he does and rave.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Good, the first stage to any cure is admitting the disease. Good. Good.<P> <P> Now think to much in control am I that I have to go looking up other posters on Flickr><P> <P> Is that rational. Nope its just very very scary.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    chrism (not gonna type all those letters)

    by boyalien

    Thought you had to go back to work? You really ARE a liar!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Teh U Suk...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Here are a few pics for your ogling and schizophrenic rants. After that, I can do nothing for your. I do suggest, however, that you see a doctor for your delusions. <p>A friend's wedding from a couple of years ago (with a time stamp):</p> <p></p> <p>My graduation: </p> <p></p> <p>My wife:</p> <p></p> <p>My dog: </p> <p></p> Somehow, I doubt that my photos will satisfy a mentally disturbed moron like you.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Now, I really have to get back to work.

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    I just can't believe that I wasted so much time arguing with this asshole (Teh Suk).

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Nice Pics

    by 2LeggedFreak

    Well somebody seems to be happy chap with a good looking wife and friends.<P> <P> I'd lay odds that there some slightly unbalanced folk out there, mentioning no names, who couldn't quite post similar evidence.<P> <P> I think my friend Teh Suk that you have just been pwned in the "Get a life stakes"<P> <P>

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST

    lol, 4 hours later: "i have to get back to work."

    by RedHorseVector

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST

    RE: Poster

    by jorson28

    Yeah... Faith, "self-reliance", discipline, patriotism, moral certainty... SCARY!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Looks like the ghost in that one Scooby Doo episode...

    by Snake Foreskin

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith should just go ahead and eat himself to death.

    by Snake Foreskin

    What a turd of a human being.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST


    by jorson28

    I suppose we should all just declare ourselves monkey-cousins, perpetual victims with useless lives, hopelessly addicted to government entitlement programs and just plan to slit our throats next time we have a bad day. Frankly, I'd much rather be YOUR buck-toothed, gun-toting, Red State stereotype - and evidently, a WHOLE LOT of other Americans (above 25 with experience living AWAY from home and enough life experience to know what they're actually talking about) would, too.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:28 p.m. CST


    by Audio_of_Being

    So much anger and rage from Teh Suck.... Maybe he's actually Kevin Smith melting down over the realization that he's not everything the trendy Hollywood nerds made him out to be...

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Rob Zombie?

    by HndMeFood

    Is that you?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Get over yourselves

    by shutupfanboy

    Its a horror movie about religious wack jobs. You fuckers ate about all the Halloween, Chainsaw and Nightmare remakes that had no substance. Saw six thousand and Paranormal Activity 2: Take my sister's demon are number 1 and 2. Its not like this the golden age of horror films.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith, the potheads' Woody Allen.

    by Snake Foreskin

    Kevin will keep making movies until all the stoners finally either get so brain damaged they can't remember who Kevin Smith is, or get kicked out of their mother's basement and run out of allowance money.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST

    No, I'm good.

    by Audio_of_Being

    I'll just continue watching you meltdown, it's quite hilarious to see someone so worked up... :P

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST

    someone should make a horror movie about this talkback

    by Eddie_Dane

    Creepy stuff going on

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST

    I'm here to lay into Smith's engorged to bursting

    by UltraTron

    fat ass. What in the fuck is that cop out crap I just wasted my time illegally downloading? What the fuck man? Some nerve this guy has speaking out about the industry when he makes bullshit like that.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Red State - the title alone is a complete insult.

    by Snake Foreskin

    You think crazy religious nuts only exist in Red States? How about Jeremiah Wright? Louis Farakhan? Marshall Herff Applewhite? Tom Cruise? All Blue State religious nuts. And dangerous to one degree or another. Suck on that, Kevin Smith.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST

    That ghost has a chubby.

    by jackofhearts29

    Just being immature.. it's a AICN tradition. Actually looks pretty cool... we'll see.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Red State. Acurate title

    by shutupfanboy

    Since we are dealing with religious Southern nutjobs. Also, why does the conservatives get out of shape when someone takes a shot at them, but its ok to call people fagots, Jews, liberals and niggers.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Hmmmm. . .

    by bagwanbob

    Indeed. Gotta admit I'm pretty much a lurker here. Thought this place was an interesting find, and pop in here from time to time to see what's what. Over the last couple of years, I've learned a few things, seen a few flicks based on recommendations, and avoided a few for the same reason. I like the idea of a site by film geeks for film geeks thriving on input from film geeks. That being said, I always find it disheartening how quickly talkbacks devolve into tirades of bigotry, homophobia, and name calling based on things physical appearance. Sort of feels like being in grade school all over again. Kind of sad, really. . .

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:50 p.m. CST

    if he had balls

    by Eddie_Dane

    he'd make the bad guys Muslum.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST


    by boyalien

    "Muslim." Also- Muslim bad guys? Real ballsy. Not like that was overdone throughout the eighties or anything. Yeesh.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 4 p.m. CST

    Saying Kevin Smith in a talk back

    by edwardpenishands

    is like throwing a live grenade in a building full of angry hornets. If you don’t like his movies don’t watch them. It’s not like the man is Michael Bay who just phones in his scripts. He is the first to say that he is more of an entertainer than anything else. Smodcast is great, so what if every movie he makes is Citizen fucking Kane. When you try something new there is always a chance you’ll fail. At least when you fail you don’t have to hear about it from a bunch of talkback asshole who have nothing better to do than trash someone else’s creation. Go back to your gay midget porno and get some of that frustration out of your system.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 4 p.m. CST


    by Audio_of_Being

    Agreed boyalien. Weren't they the backbone of the villainy for wrestling in the 80's?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 4:19 p.m. CST

    I made salient points. Name calling notwithstanding.

    by Snake Foreskin

    Red State IS an insulting title which is based on the flawed premise that the religious nutjobs are Conservative Republican Christians. While some clearly are, there are a lot of very violent, bigoted and insane religious nuts who are far from Conservative, far from Republican and far from living in Red States. See my above post for just a scant few examples. And Kevin Smith, you may still feel free to suck it.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 4:20 p.m. CST

    This is his first serious Film...

    by BlackBriar

    or I'am wrong?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST

    That looks more like a book cover

    by MattmanReturns

    than a poster.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Not a fan of Smith...

    by SK229

    but unless it's universally panned as an abysmally bad movie, that poster gets me interested enough to check it out no matter what. Bravo for not going with some marketing dickheads and recognizing something that works. Also, this proves that any director on the ropes can go sci-fi or horror and pull a rabbit out of a hat... he already has with the poster alone.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Religous nutjobs are real

    by edwardpenishands

    What because not every religious person is a nutjob you shouldn’t make a movie about the ones that are? Are fucking kidding? It shows that you know nothing about the man because he talks fondly of his conservative upbringing. As someone who has lived in both a “Red State” and “Blue State” I can tell you the amount of extreme religious wack jobs are greatly increased in Red States. It’s not a jab a religion it’s a jab at extremist.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST


    by OLORINtheGrey

    Athiest nutjobs are real. As someone who has lived in both a "Red State" and "Blue State" I can tell you the amount of extreme athiest wack jobs are greatly increased in Blue States. It's not a jab at athiesm it's a jab at extremist.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST


    by boyalien

    Tend to not be "extremists." Unless you think Bill Maher is an "extremist." Atheists, and I include myself here, are usually just pricks. Like most of the world. But we're not lobbing grenades at abortion clinics.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Political Rallies

    by OLORINtheGrey

    There is a significant difference between right wing and left wing rallies. The biggest is you see more insane, belligerent, racist, violent nutjobs at Blue rallies than Red. Obama the almighty himself gets heckled and harrassed on a regular basis by his own morons.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Hes not a ghost

    by edwardpenishands

    He’s a magic wizard that will zap the salmonella out of your food if you ask nicely before you eat it. As long as you’re not from Africa because it’s obvious he fucking hates him some Africa.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Religious people "tend" not to be extremists as well.

    by OLORINtheGrey

    it's hollywoods propaganda that leads people to believe Religion and extremism go hand in hand.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 5:02 p.m. CST

    teh suk = fucking bully

    by OLORINtheGrey

    you're a real eloquent asshole.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Great poster, but I'm still skeptical.

    by rbatty024

    Great horror films require a good amount of craft and attention to the visual language of film. Whether or not you like Smith (and I enjoy a good number of his films), you cannot admit that he's good with a camera. In fact, he has said so himself. I'm just not confident that he can pull off a worthwhile horror film.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Looks like something meant to offend...

    by kidicarus

    Fear God? Eh, if he can't get past an obvious agenda to "stick it to the fundies" this movie will be crap.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Atheists are like anybody else

    by MattmanReturns

    There are asshole atheists and perfectly nice atheists (I'm somewhere in the middle). However, I don't give a fuck what someone's religion or lack of religion is. I've got bigger concerns in my life. I just don't believe in God. I've got plenty of friends who do though, and I'm respectful of that.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST

    It's unlikely this will work

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    For obvious reasons. However I am curious.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Of course there are atheist extremists

    by MattmanReturns

    Some atheists are so obsessed with proving others wrong that they enter this category. Extremists come in every shape and size, sadly.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:03 p.m. CST

    I know a guy who's extremist atheist.

    by Audio_of_Being

    He is one of those ones who has to be right about atheism to the point where it's actually embarassing, even for me being an atheist. I have a feeling Red State might leave me feeling the same way....

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:04 p.m. CST

    You know...

    by Audio_of_Being

    Provided I actually bother to see it when it comes out.....

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Audio yeah I know that type

    by MattmanReturns

    I hate when an extremist agrees with me. IMO belief/disbelief is more of a personal choice and I don't really need to shove it in people's faces, nor do I want it shoved in mine. Discussions are cool, but when it turns into "YOU'RE WRONG, I'M RIGHT!" it just gets ridiculous.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk

    by webguru

    You are one monstrous trolling bag of douche sir. Your existence is clearly a mistake. You were supposed to be nothing more than soiled tissue at the bottom of a trash can.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith on a

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith on a Plane!

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    the movie

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:23 p.m. CST

    to be an Atheist you must hate God

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    and hating God means you know he exists.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:36 p.m. CST


    by boyalien

    Five minutes of internet searching: "Joseph Stalin was raised to be a Catholic Priest and I remain curious as to why his Christianity is shoved aside in all these arguments. Yes, there is no way to get around the fact that in his early career, Stalin made a vast effort to rid Russia of religion, but that had nothing to do with atheism. It was the only way he knew to seize power of the country. For generations the entire populace of Russia had been taught that the head of state was supposed to be close to god. At the time in question, the head of the church in Russia was a tyrant. The Russians were already disposed to servility and all Stalin did was exploit these two facts, and place himself in the position of god. Once Stalin was firmly seated in office, he revived the Russian Orthodox Church in order to intensify patriotic support for the war effort. Stalin was part of a council convened to elected a new church Patriarch. Then the Russian theological schools were opened, and thousands of churches began to function. Even the Moscow Theological Academy Seminary was re-opened, after being closed since 1918. So, while Stalin was no peach, he was not exactly what you would call a died-in-the-wool atheist. He was more a secular minded religious opportunist, which is a personal character trait. He did not use atheism to gain control, but religious principles that were modified to fit his own, sick and twisted method of revolution."

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Stalin got raped by a priest as a child

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    took it in history class

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:45 p.m. CST

    I really like it!!!!

    by notcher

    Can't wait for the trailer!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Fuck the haters!!!!

    by notcher

    I can't stand the people who say "Nobody talks like this in the real world." Fuck that, I guess that makes "Juno" suck. Fuck, that makes "Lawrence of Arabia" suck too. Yeah, and Tarantino dialogue sucks too! That argument makes no sense you fuckers!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Wow! Decide which you don't like

    by Lang The Cat

    Clearly many of the people here have dropped to the level of just making personal attacks on Mr. Smith. Instead of offering valid artistic criticism of his work, most are picking on his weight or life? These guys are truly sad. If you don't like KS's films, cool. If you feel he has fallen short of his talent, great. If you feel you have to drag his marriage or weight into it, you are clearly just jealous keyboard jockeys who have to make do with photoshopped pictures of the girl in your history class while you wank yourselves into next week. Grow a pair with some hair on it and make valid criticism. <br> There is certainly fodder for the fire. Mr. Smith agrees with you on that. I would really like to see him do a comic book film since both Widening Gyre and Green Hornet were good books.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST


    by CreepyThinMan1978

    CreepyThinMan here…..<br> <br>I fucking LOVE Horror and Zombies are my most beloved sub-genre. I’ve watched, read and played about everything to do with the living dead while my three top movies would be Return of the Living Dead (1985), Dawn of the Dead (1978) and Zombie (1979), my favorite music video of all time is Thriller and the first three Resident Evil games proudly sit on my shelf along side my copies of Book of the Dead: The Complete History of Zombie Cinema by Jamie Russell and World War Z : An Oral History of the Zombie War by Max Brooks. <br> <br>I will watch ANYTHING involving Zombies from beginning to end, even the lowest of low budget shit such as The Video Dead, unlike certain limp wristed pansies that write for this site. I just never get tired of the living challenged and their dietary needs. <br> <br>IMHO this has been the decade of the zombie as more living dead flicks have been made then at any other time, particularly with major studio backing in some cases. This was spurred on by the release of the first Resident Evil movie, 28 Days Later and Shaun of the Dead followed by the Dawn of the Dead remake and, the genre’s creator, George A. Romero’s Land of the Dead. It seems that, everywhere you look these days, zombies are everywhere. There was even one as President of the United States from 2001 to 2009 *smirk*. There are also “zombie walks” that have taken place in various cities where people dress up and stumble about all in good fun. <br> <br>The Walking Dead is a comic book series created by Robert Kirkman, with art by Tony Moore and then Charles Adlard who took over from issue #7 onwards, that has been adapted as a TV series by Frank Darabont (The Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile and The Mist) who also scripted the entire six part series while Directing the first episode called Days Gone Bye of which this review refers to. <br> <br>There are only two eras in Horror as far as I’m concerned; Pre-Night of the Living Dead and Post-Night of the Living Dead. What Romero’s movie did was drag Horror away from the castles and crypts of Old Europe and placed it firmly in Middle America of the late 1960’s. Not only did he practically invent his own genre but he also cemented NOTLD’s reputation as an uncompromising Horror masterpiece by ramming the audiences face into an unrelentingly nihilistic vision of death where there is no hope and no one survives. It still makes me smile when I think of Roger Ebert’s review of NOTLD where he describes how he sat in a theatre filled with kids who had been left there by their parents, probably while off to do some shopping, who thought that their children were going to watch some silly monster movie. He tells of 9 year olds crying because of the sheer terror they were experiencing and when I think of that I can’t stop laughing. <br> <br>Later Romero created yet another zombie masterpiece in 1978, Dawn of the Dead, which has gained more relevance with each passing year with its satirical subtext of the zombies representing mindless consumerism. Day of the Dead is the Return of the Jedi of Romero’s zombie series and, just like Lucas, it represents the beginning of a downward trajectory in the overall quality of the series. Romero’s mistake, IMHO, with Day was that he placed the events too far into the future, after the initial resurrection of the dead. By this time the characters have been living with this for so long that they are used to it, so there was no where to go dramatically which is why Romero felt he needed to create dramatic tension with the annoying and obnoxious military bitches who do nothing but act like complete and utter fucking assholes to such an extent that you have to wonder why the more reasonable characters didn’t just take off in the helicopter and not come back? <br> <br>Then there is Bub, the “zombie with a soul” who, under observation, shows that he has some memory of his former life and basic emotions as in evidence of his outburst at the discovery of Dr. Logan’s death. This plotline was an obvious indication that Romero himself was becoming less interested in his human characters. The real mistake is that Romero started to put forward the idea that the zombies were somehow “evolving”. That concept never jived with me as I feel these things are nothing more then motorized chunks of rotting flesh looking to sink their teeth into something much like the shark in Jaws. The true flaw in the Romeroverse is his characters lack of pathos and real human emotions apart from fear and terror. <br> <br>IMHO, I wish Romero had modeled Day of the Dead on those nuclear holocaust movies of the 1980’s such as The Day After, Threads and Testament. Make it an ensemble piece that showed ordinary life before the dead came back to life and focus on the human drama of characters trying to survive in a post-apocalyptic world surrounded by the living dead at every turn. <br> <br>With the first episode of The Walking Dead, Kirkman and Darabont have made the type of zombie movie that can stand with the best of them. They emphasize their characters attempts to survive and focus on their humanity, even extending that towards the zombies themselves who are regarded with pity and sadness, acknowledging that these were once people who lost their lives, while also reminding us that they are dangerous and not sad eyed puppies like Bub was. <br> <br>Sheriffs’ Deputy Rick Grimes is shot in the line of duty and wakes up some time later in a hospital, an obvious nod to 28 Days Later (itself a homage to Romero’s living dead series), and is confronted with the horror’s of this new world. Corpses everywhere and the look of terror on Grimes face is palatable. British actor Andrew Lincoln does a great job here, really sells the characters fear and his southern accent is fine without overboard. His first confrontation with one of the walking dead is the park zombie, a female corpse that is badly decomposed with its lower half missing. It’s an instant classic make-up job (supervised by Greg Nicotero of KNB) that uses CGI sensibly while the actress cast really makes you both sympathies and fear her character. <br> <br>Grimes goes to his home to find his wife and son gone and soon comes into contact with Morgan Jones, and his son, who are hold up in one of the abandoned houses on Ricks street. They relate to Rick what happened and explain a few of the old tropes about the walking dead, don’t get bit, get them in the head to put them down and although they might seems pathetic on their own, don’t let yourself get stuck in a corner with a bunch of them near by, a mistake that Rick makes at the end of the episode. But it seems the father (well played by fellow Brit Lennie James) has his own burden as his wife (who had been bitten-died- and came back) is wandering around the neighborhood because he didn’t have the heart to put down the mother of his child. This is exactly the type of wrenching human drama that is otherwise missing from Romero’s comic book styling’s and makes The Walking Dead all the better for it. <br> <br>Rick decides to go to Atlanta, where Jones relates that there were broadcasts promising shelter and safety in the initial days of the outbreak, as it seems logical that his wife and their son would have gone there. Rick, Jones and his son head to the police station and stock up on weapons and ammo. Jones stays behind to take care of his wife while Rick goes forward but not before taking care of some business himself. I’m not going to go further, as I don’t want to ruin what happens when Rick makes the mistake of letting himself get surrounded by zombies, but it’s very cool and sets up the next episode. <br> <br>Overall, I have to say that, even on its own, The Walking Dead : Days Gone Bye stands as one of the best piece’s of zombie related entertainment since Charlie Brooker’s absolutely fantastic Big Brother-reality TV Brit series Dead Set (if you haven’t seen it DO SO NOW!). The writing and performances are very good and Darabont manages to create very solid mood and atmosphere while delivering plenty-o-gore, more then you’d expect for television. I’m also relieved that he has toned down the use of hand held shakey cam that, IMHO, was one of the things that brought down his adaptation of Stephen King’s The Mist. He picked up this technique from working on The Shield and thankfully has dialed it back towards more artfully composed framing while correctly sprinkling a little bit in here and there when it’s called for, specifically in moments when you need a frenetic action to create the kinetic visual energy of, say, being surrounded by hundreds of zombies. <br> <br>Anywho, my only worry at this point is that the rest of this six episode series won’t live up to the quality of Days Gone Bye. Darabont has scripted the entire series while the other five episodes are being Directed by Ernest R. Dickerson, Guy Ferland, Gwyneth Horder-Payton, Michelle Maxwell MacLaren and Johan Renck with Dickerson being the only person with any solid genre credits being that he Directed Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight, which I think was a pretty solid little movie back in the day. What all of them have in common is their extensive work in television drama’s which makes sense as Darabont is clearly putting emphasis on creating a series that doesn’t rely simply on action and violence but, instead, focuses on the human condition of people trying to survive and retain their humanity in a post-apocalyptic world filled with zombies and Horror’s of the human heart.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    KS is a lazy fuck for sure

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    he spent most of hos career making stupid comedies intead of real stuff.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 7:07 p.m. CST

    "to be an Atheist you must hate God"

    by Audio_of_Being

    Sounds like an ignorant textbook religious rebuttal, or trolling. Being that this is AICN, I'm gonna go with the latter over the former.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST

    I love it

    by rangerspartan

    Look, KS could make a movie about me taking a long poop then contemplating the flush. I think he is one of the most original writer/directors out there. Thoughts?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 7:25 p.m. CST

    One odd thing about Kevin Smith...

    by CountryBoy

    Didn't he rant and rave furiously when COP OUT was poorly reviewed? "It's not SUPPOSED to be a great movie, gimme a break!" He seemed enraged, as if he should be given a pass for LOW ambition. That always struck me as bizarre.<p>As for RED STATE, I guess we have to reserve judgment. It sure LOOKS like a typical Hollywood anti-Christian screed.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Atheist is believing God doesnt exist...

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    how do they know??????? you dont!!!! then only other thing is just refusing to believe IN God instead.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 7:32 p.m. CST

    I havn't read any Talkback comments yet


    but when I saw this article was about Kevin Smith I was pretty sure that the majority of posts would involve words such as 'hack' 'suck' 'meh' and so on <p> Now to see if I was right...

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Did that move with Willis and Morgan come out?

    by BurnedNotice_Dude

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 7:36 p.m. CST

    I'll try not to troll to hard but

    by darthSaul666

    Atheism isn't about hating God... It's about not believing in God.. Athiest Extremism is a fallacy mainly because it's like saying "I'm an extreme beliver in nothing!!!!" I find it funny when debating the faiths of past tyrants and no one has pointed out the cliche that absolute power corrupts absolutly... <p> Anyways I hope KS makes a good horror flick.....

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST

    On the other side of the coin...

    by Audio_of_Being

    You don't know that God even ex.... Ahh fuck it, I'm not getting pulled into this bullshit. Beliefs and faith and all that jazz can't be argued cause it's way too intimate and personal.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Audio of Being I agree

    by darthSaul666

    That topic will lead to ugly trolling!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Where the FUCK

    by BlaGyver

    is all this Kevin Smith backlash coming from? Are you guys just trying to come across as cool? Honestly, Smioth is one of very few filmmakers who seems to care about his audience's general opinion of his work as a whole and treats most of his fans like fucking royalty. Clerks, Dogma, Chasing Amy, Mallrats (sue me), Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.....and he's a hack? Fuck me, you guys worry me sometimes.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 8:05 p.m. CST

    And that's not to say

    by BlaGyver

    He hasn't had his shitfests (Jersey Girl, Cop Out). And Clerks II was eh, but still.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 8:08 p.m. CST


    by Harold-Sherbort

    Say you build a house. You invite guests to live in your house. You stay upstairs while your guests begin to BURN YOUR FUCKING HOUSE DOWN! What would you do? We are destroying this fucking planet. I'm not just talking about global warming here. We are responsible for wars, famine, murder, rape and Glenn Beck. Dont you think God would have stepped in by now? Why would you create something so beautiful and intricate and just let it bedestroyed? And if God KNEW this was going to happen, why bother in the first place?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 8:13 p.m. CST

    i thought jersey girl was unfairly maligned...

    by RedHorseVector

    not a movie i've ever felt like revisiting, but for what it was, i thought it was a nice flick. haven't seen cop out yet...

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST

    I was surprised...

    by rangerspartan

    by Copout and how funny it was. It wasn't great but it was alright. As KS fan I could watch anything he makes. I thought Mallrats was awesome. Shoot me.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Wow, that is one seriously SHITTY poster

    by Big Dumb Ape

    ZZZZzzzzzzzz. Honestly, picture the older security guard from that funny Fed Ex commercial, where they're checking the presentation boards of a guy and woman at the security gate, and him dropping his head and letting loose with a blast of bored snoring. That pretty much sums up this poster.<p>Oh yeah, and it's not that people hate Kevin Smith for who he is. Frankly, I don't think people take things that personal. The simple truth is that geeks finally realized his work was waaaaaay overhyped by trendy media outlets, where they were told it was "cool and hip" to love Smith's stuff.<p>But then one day everyone started watching the DVDs and realized "Damn, these movies actually DO suck!"

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:01 p.m. CST


    by proevad

    It's coming from the fact that Kevin posts on here, and reads this site...they have to wave their little willies in his face to prove what men they are. Plus anonymous fat people like to hate on fat people. Kevin is a geeky movie lover who gets to make movies. How cool is that? He's not Kubrick. Big fucking deal. For the record I enjoyed all of his movies more than any of Blake Edward's films.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:09 p.m. CST

    There is no certain proof God doesnt exist

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    but there is proof that he does. END OF DISCUSSION. ATHEISM IS A FALLACY.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:17 p.m. CST

    This is a political satire film.

    by SirGaryColeman

    It's about Republicans. Why hasn't anyone picked up on this?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:20 p.m. CST


    by EpilepticLurcher

    Can you share this proof that god does indeed exist? I'm sure everyone would love to hear it.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Lets be real... Kevin is a little overrated.

    by chadiwack

    I mean yeah he had some critical acclaim with clerks and then chasing amy, but it was when being vulgar was new and crass sexual innuendo was new-ish. But he has re hashed the same Kevin jokes movie after movie. Jay and Silent Bob were iconic in the late nineties. But if they are the thing he is most known and revered for then hell, how is he really heralded as some film genius. oh and p.s. he totally turned Live free or die hard into a steaming pile of pg-13 dog bollocks.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:25 p.m. CST

    I'm sure Kevin probably hangs round this site.

    by chadiwack

    seeing as he is supposed to be all underground and renegade. Damn the man Kevin.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:26 p.m. CST

    I feel as though I should respond to the Smith haters

    by The_All_Dead

    On behave of Mr. Smith I say to all the haters " And the titles and release dates of YOUR movies are?..." "yeah,exactly."

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST

    is this some political BS?

    by frank cotton

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Blue, Red, right, left, atheist, Christian, Muslim

    by IronEagle74

    What do they all have in common? There are extremists in every group. But not even all extremists are equal. Some of them are non-violent extremists, and some are violent. None of the extremists should ever be allowed to define the entire group of people they're identified with. If you define the entire group by the few extremists' actions, then you're being a disingenuous prick. Most people are good. The bad ones are JUST BAD, no matter who they are.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Back then

    by Robber_Button

    <p>What Smith did took huge balls, still does. The equipment to make films of equal or better visual quality than Clerks is available to most TBer's. The motivation or ability is not.</p> <br></br> <p>He gets my respect and attention for getting out there and doing it and not just talking about it in bars, chat rooms and talkbacks. (even though I still haven't made it all the way through Cop Out.) Truth is from the start (and possibly moreso at the start) he put all of his time and energy into his films. And let's be honest here he never claimed to be the Second Anything the indie film press did. (remember when Sundance was credible?)<br></br><p>Just as they were saying that film was being democratised and that anyone with a camera and a premiere could be a filmmaker. </p><br></br> Newsflash, Guess what? The home movie guys are essentially still making home movies. (Peter Jackson excluded) and your projected hopes that there would be a movie geek revolution are scuppered. Question is why so bitter?<br></br><p> Truth is any one of his achievements will be longer remembered than a scathing remark in a talkback. Even Cop Out</p> <br></br> But Kevin, fleshlight? Seriously?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Proof of God's existence

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost


  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:37 p.m. CST

    I'm on the side..

    by cifra

    ... that thinks Smith was due to make Horror. It's not a secret he's one of the members of the Tarantino "band", along with Rodriguez and Roth... so guess he probably had good advice on this one, when in doubt. I think it's gonna be good.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST

    I'll bet $20 that this film will suck balls

    by ATARI

    Anybody want to take the bet?<br> <br>

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST

    10 people get

    by Robber_Button

    DioxholsterOperationsOutpost's joke.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith is famous for introducing the world to "snowballing"

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    hes one step ahead of Uwe Bowl in my books! haha what a loser.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:41 p.m. CST

    So, because someone made one good movie

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    they are now beyond criticism? yeah there are some bitter assholes who will criticize anything and some of the shit heaped upon Smith (k) or Smith (w) is bullshit, but damn, ksmith has produced some clunkers lately and it aint hatin to say that, now maybe some of the personal attacks go too far, but valid criticism of his work does not

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:47 p.m. CST


    by BlaGyver

    Drinks are on me for that post alone.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:49 p.m. CST

    He passed on THE GREEN HORNET...

    by Master Bruce

    to do this...? Whateves dude.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Nolan makes Kevin Smith look like a gerbil of a director

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    comon kevin you can do it! comon boy, comon.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:52 p.m. CST


    by EpilepticLurcher

    That's your proof?<P>You need to grow up. god is Santa Claus for adults with something missing in their lives. This is the 21st century, give up on the superstitious mumbo jumbo.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Why don't you piss off and start your anti-religion thread elsew

    by chadiwack

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST


    by bumbleward

    Just had to roll up on this talkback and show some support for the cats who get it and got it. Look, feel free to bag on the whole Kevin Smith show. Love you for it. But there's such an easy way to turn it off. Don't watch,don't read his comics, don't listen to his free podcast -- you createnous fucks. Fine you didn't like his poster. He didn't post it here. AICN did, cause it's realitive movie news. Hold your life under a microscope and see what you've got. Dudes been making films for fifteen years. And he reads this site. He considers fans total royalty! Best way to get anything is to go 'round giving it. And they way all 12 of you are giving it, expect jizz in your fucking eye. Idiots.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 10:13 p.m. CST


    by EpilepticLurcher

    The technology is easily available for any of you haters to make a better looking film than Clerks. Why don't you go out and make that film you have in you before slating a guy who fucking made 9 films?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith should direct porn

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    i would watch that.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST

    do directors get any say over promotional material?

    by Meadowe

    I was wondering because I've never seen or heard of any director talking about their input or lack thereof when it came to cutting the trailers or posters etc.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Smodcast is awesome!!!

    by samuraiyao

    Fuck you guys, Kevin Smith is awesome aint it cool to know that?

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST


    by Doc_Hudson

    "had brains and intelligence. When one has brains and intelligence, they tend to be more left thinking. It surprises me, the troglodyte right even believes in the theory of light being captured on film. What devil nonsense that science is." OMG how successful troll is unsuccessful. I think he needs to prove he can even wipe the shit off his mouth.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 10:43 p.m. CST

    jesus christ..

    by JRyanH

    i haven't posted in a lonnnng time, but i just wanted to chime in and say you are all contrarian fucktards who bitch about everything. worst god damn talkback board on the internet.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Oh fuck!!!

    by notcher

    Here we go with all this Bible bullshit!!! Idiots saying there's proof God exists, and I say what proof, and then some asshole says The Bible, and I say, who wrote it, and then the asshole says God, and I say, no you fucker, people wrote it, unreliable source if you ask me. There's no proof either way fuckers!!!!

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 10:51 p.m. CST

    I like the poster

    by Coordinate_System

    <P>it's...creepy.</P> <P>For theological/philosophical reasons, I don't care for the tagline, though.</P> <P>Snake Foreskin: this is what sprang to mind when I saw the poster:</P> <P> v=MAfcV6enoz8

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 11:02 p.m. CST


    by Harold-Sherbort

    What Notcher said.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 11:16 p.m. CST

    A murder who tells dick and boob jokes.. genius

    by hatespeech

    can't wait to see more cunt adn piss jokes from this modern day ghandi

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 11:37 p.m. CST

    It's a political comedy?

    by Teddy Artery


  • Nov. 1, 2010, 11:45 p.m. CST

    horror flick starring John Goodman

    by Riff_Randell


  • Nov. 1, 2010, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Teddy Artery wins the Can't Read Award

    by V'Shael

    It's not a comedy - it's a horror.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 12:01 a.m. CST

    just the thought

    by frank cotton

    of JOHN GOODMAN's tits is more horror than i can bear

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 12:25 a.m. CST

    I'll bet $20 that SCOTTPILGRIMFAN eats footlong cheeseburgers

    by xdiamondxdanx

    Just because people are stricken with mental illnesses doesn't make them morons. STFU child.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 12:57 a.m. CST


    by boyalien

    I said at the outset of the last post: Five minutes of internet searching. Essentially, I immediately made it clear that I wasn't citing sources or composing a goddamned thesis. The point, obviously, is that if you simply google "Stalin atheist" you get hundreds of thousands of hits all debating the issue, whether he was truly an "atheist," how atheist was he, what does it have to do with who he was and what he did, and on and on and on. Scholars debate the issue. People whose sole job is to study history argue the issue. Also, random dudes with blogs talk about it. It's not fucking black and white. And anyway, in the end, DarthSaul666 is right, the religion or lack thereof of DICTATORS has nothing do with the idea of extremists and extremism. Extremists are, by definition, outsiders. Calling a true dictator an "extremist" is just an insult to dictators. Those fuckers murder EN MASSE. Those fuckers aren't atheists, they're PSYCHOTIC. There is quite a large difference.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 1 a.m. CST

    Fucking Dumb.

    by AzzyAzzy

    Oh noes, a horror movie with religious overtones! Run!

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 1:08 a.m. CST

    Oh, and....

    by boyalien

    Giants win! The steers beat the queers! They are literally burning Texas flags on the streets of San Francisco. Suck it, red states!

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 1:09 a.m. CST


    by boyalien

    Obviously, the QUEERS beat the STEERS. This site really does need an edit button.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 1:51 a.m. CST

    There are exactly 12 people . . .

    by Man in Suit

    . . . that support Fred Phelps' ministry- and they're all in his congregation. This is not as "controversial" a topic as Kevin Smith thinks it is.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 1:52 a.m. CST

    Is this Smith's morning wood or a teaser?

    by Larrylongballs

    Does no one else think this looks like an erect cock under a white sheet?

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 3 a.m. CST

    "Fear God"?? That already sounds like shit.

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Fuck you, Kevin Smith and damn you to hell, you self-lovin' one-trick pony!

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 3:41 a.m. CST

    I don't get it.

    by catlettuce4

    Am I supposed to already know what the movie's about before I see this or something? It makes little sense.

  • The movie hasn't even been accepted to Sundance yet. It's early early days.<br /><br />You now know there's a movie called Red State. Job done.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 5:23 a.m. CST

    A Kevin Smith horror movie?

    by Rocco Curioso

    Starring Smith as Silent Shaggy and Jason Mewes as Scooby Jay-Doo?<P>Very well; I will yield to the wonder of Kev's postmodern slacker auteurism... one more time.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 6:03 a.m. CST

    It looks like it was made with an iPhone App?

    by Bandit 37

    I gave up a long time ago. I just don't care about his movies any more.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 6:15 a.m. CST

    RED STATE? That was the Bush's administration

    by AsimovLives

    It was a real horror story, that one was.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 6:37 a.m. CST

    "I got a rock."

    by Uncle Stan

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 6:42 a.m. CST


    by LaserPants

    Isn't it funny how the lamest, most unessential and boring places in the country are also the most spastastically ultra right wing? I guess they get SO bored, it all turns to resentment, and then hatred. Unless there's a psychotic / idiotic white Oil Man in charge, then the Flyover States can rest easy. I'm terrified of what the world is going to look like when these brain dead hateful hicks take over again.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 6:57 a.m. CST

    After Zack n Miri and Copout

    by zyzy_b

    I'm out the Kevin Smith game.... Used to be a fan too

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 7:16 a.m. CST

    It's obvious how thistle

    by OutsideChance

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 7:20 a.m. CST

    It's obvious how this'll play out.

    by OutsideChance

    Smith'll get some cheap publicity over the tired "small town Christians are evil" plot. But in the end, like all his movies over the past ten years, it'll bomb and eventually he'll either try to give us "Clerks 3: this sequel doesn't suck, I promise" or just say "fuck it" and start writing comic books full time.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Kevin Smith = Uwe Boll

    by crashcow

    Same quality, four times the poundage.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 8 a.m. CST


    by dengreg31

    that poster is god awful.. no other way to look at it..

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 8:06 a.m. CST


    by bagwanbob

    2 words: Free-will. Or, if you believe in Karma, we get back what we give out. Just peek the hatred in this topic to see that there's still a lot of it ready to erupt. And if it'll come out over something as innane as Kevin Smith's waist size, imagine what'll happen when something like religious beliefs are involved.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 8:16 a.m. CST

    vastly over-rated by geeks

    by nightmute

    Smith has never made a film that mass audiences have been interested in. I read his big spiel about Red State, and his absurd claim that it will be scarier than Jaws. Does he actually think that he can capture people's imaginations with a subject like this? It's just that 70s Peter Fonda devil worshipping movie, Race With The Devil, but with bible-bashers. He has an inflated opinion of his own abilities. Talks a big game, but can't deliver.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST

    "scarier than Jaws"?

    by skimn

    The last director to make a statement like that was M Night just before The Happening was released. Uh huh.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Philbert (and the rest of the haters)

    by IForgotAbout19

    I swear to god you internetters will rag on anything. Philbert name one way in which Kevin Smith is bigotted. Name one actual way.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST

    I laugh at the Smith supporters

    by Stalkeye

    obviously, these fuckers have been drowning in the Kool Aid.This fucker's only saving grace was the "ESB vs ANH" debate.That, and some parts of Jay and Silent Bob Strikes back.Otherwise his films are shit and those that rally to his defense are in denial.(prolly his friends from the smodcast threads or his facebook page,etc cause they sure as hell aint regulars here.)<p>You assholes ever heard of free speech? meaning, we have the freedom to trash or critique any so called entertainer/medium that does not measure.Those same fuckers that call people haters, have more than likely dissed some director or movie in one fashion or another.Ergo, they are hypocrites that are full of shit!

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Smith Bigoted?

    by Stalkeye

    I doubt that, but then again, he is Irish. :X

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 11 a.m. CST

    Smith's Podcasts and stand up gigs are his best work

    by Rupee88

    he is a fucking funny dude...his movies are ok.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Smith's best production is what comes out of his ass.

    by Snake Foreskin

    It's the only thing he creates that even begins to represent his character.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 11:13 a.m. CST

    I hardly noticed the donkey sex scene.

    by UltraTron

    Seriously. Donkey sex is mentioned in like how many movies and episodes of southpark? You guys must really be right wing Jesus whores. Tell ya what. I'm Jesus today. It's the second cumming and it's going all over your face. Slurp it up whores.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 11:14 a.m. CST

    But Ultra Right Wing Religious Nuts ARE Scarier Than Jaws

    by LaserPants

    Jaws is only dangerous if your stupid enough to swim in the ocean polluted by the Ultra Right Wing Religious Nut Oil Barons and Multinational Industrialists who made it that way. Just stay out of the oil slicked water and you won't be killed by a Oil Slicked Rage Shark.<br><br>But Ultra Right Wing Religious Nuts are WAY MORE DANGEROUS because they have obscene levels of money, power, and influence; they run the world, make the laws, and call the shots. They're currently terrifyingly close to overthrowing the US (under the aegis of the TeaNazis / TeaRetards) and finishing the job Bush started -- driving the country into the ground once and for all and transforming it into the a third world religiofascist dictatorship.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST


    by sam jacksons wig

    Why are you back from lying under a fucking rock and licking your wounds after SPVTW tanked royally as everyone told you it would, and trolling up the boards again?<br><br> You are just a retarded fucking stink of a life who has all of the social grace and sanity of a dead racoon that has been raped by a goat.<br><br> Do us all a favour and go fucking choke to death on Michael Ceras foreskin, you dopey cunt. <br><br> Oh, and if you wish Pilgrim to be successful on DVD, then best get saving those pennies from whoring out your arse to 90 year old incontinent men whos cocks smell like sick, as you'll have to buy them all, fuckface!!!!<br><br> Death is too good for you.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Kevin Smith has never made a good movie

    by tomimt

    His only talent is writing, as a director he is barely mediocre.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 11:37 a.m. CST


    by sam jacksons wig

    There were moments in Zack and Miri that were okay, such as Brandon Routh and erm..... the end credits. But I would have given a shiny new penny not to have seen Jason Mews ball sack and wang. I have self harmed since.......

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 11:42 a.m. CST

    As a child I was told by my father....

    by sam jacksons wig

    ... don't talk about two things - politics or Religeon. More people have died in the name of both of those than anything else......apart from going to see a Michael Bay movie. The suicide rate went up 1000000% after that cunt released TF2........

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 11:42 a.m. CST

    I'm going to say it. Kevin Smith fans are morons.

    by Snake Foreskin

    That's the only possible answer. You guys probably watch professional wrestling for all the drama and cathartic moments, too. Please just admit that if you love Kevin Smith movies you are putrid excuses for humanity. Thanks!

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST

    What's wrong with wanting limited government and less taxes?

    by Snake Foreskin

    Why are Tea Party activists considered extremists and radicals for wanting to limit the role of government and make sure taxes aren't skyrocketing and the deficit doesn't bankrupt future generations of Americans? Since when is it radical or fanatical to expect government spending to be held to a responsible and feasible level?<p> Now if they were rallying for turning babies into dogfood or lynching the mentally handicapped, then you might have a point. But when you rail against the Tea Party folks, spewing vicious rhetoric and trying to marginalize and demonize them and make them out to be evil Nazi nutcases, you make yourself look infinitely ridiculous.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Snake Foreskin

    by sam jacksons wig

    There is fuck all professional about wrestling. I would rather fuck my mother than watch it, and she is not very attractive.....

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Only professional aspect is that they get paid for it...

    by Snake Foreskin

    kind of like Kevin Smith is a professional filmmaker. It doesn't make the end product any better than if he was just doing it as a hobby. In fact, I might respect him more if what he turned out time after time had been produced after-hours or in his spare time when not working his full-time job as a carnival barker or some such.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith has never made a good movie?

    by notcher

    All I will say to that is I laughed 800 times more watching the low budget "Clerks" than I did watching that high budget, overrated piece of shit called "The Hangover."

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith Sucks

    by MrPoop

    It needs to be mentioned at least every ten posts.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    I won't argue that Kevin Smith is a great filmmaker

    by Dapper Swindler

    But it seems that a lot of people want to hate him. I'm interested in why this is.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Smith should prostate himself before Spike Lee

    by Stalkeye

    ..after all it was Lee's idea to use a shitload of credit cards to buy film equipment.Smith followed suit and the rest is history.Just that Lee is more successful than balding,fat bastid Kev.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST

    I would say that this must me one...

    by Citizen Sane

    ... heavy horror film; but Goodman has lost so much weight and Kevin Smith is WIDELY considered s total hack in most industry CIRCLES. So this movie is just gonna totally suck.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Dapper Swindler...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Maybe it has something to do with the "snowballing" reference in CLERKS and the Donkey Sex in CLERKS II? <p>Then again, it might just be the fact that Kevin Smith is a terrible director, terrible writer and a fanatically liberal activist who thinks that anyone who doesn't agree with his radical politics or anti-religious views is an "extremist." </p> Smith is terribly overrated -- even if the dirty basement dwelling 30+ yr old lost-in-life fanboys share his same CLERKS life experience.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    I just want some good gore and fucked up shit

    by Tall_Boy66

    Smith's comics work actually does get pretty gory and fucked up, moreso than his film work, so it'll be cool to see him finally do it in a movie.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    I live in a Red State

    by PinkFloyd7

    called Texas, and it's scary enough as it is.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 3:50 p.m. CST

    two great films

    by LouGehrig

    Clerks and Chasing Amy were great films...everything else, not so good. I am always hoping for one more good film from him!

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    I live in a Blue State

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    called California, and it is scary enough as it is. <p>We are in unbelievable debt -- and our CA state legislators are trying to spend more, tax more and create many more creative tax-like increases called "fees" and "tolls."</p> <p>In addition, if you disagree with the views of the far-left, you are painted as a "fanatic" (or, in my case, a "sell out" or "Uncle Tom") by people who just don't get it.</p> Americans are tired of liberals trying to redefine and legislate their own vision of morality and our free market economic system. Today's election is a response to that out-of-touch sentiment.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    The Good Will Hunting 2 scene in Jay and Silent Bob

    by Tall_Boy66

    C'mon, that scene isn't funny? "Jesus Ben, I said I'm busy." "You're a true artist Gus." "What did I tell you? You'd be back in here regurgitating Gordon Wood. But you forgot about Vickus-" " No, I just read Vickers, so I'm up on inherited wealth, Hunting!"

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Clearly politics plays a part in this movie, so Teh Suk...

    by Snake Foreskin

    maybe you need to heed your own advice.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk (pronounced "Flaming Troll")

    by webguru

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 6:30 p.m. CST


    by Baryonyx


  • Nov. 2, 2010, 6:52 p.m. CST

    I dunno, Dapper Swindler, but I have a few theories...

    by Subtitles_Off

    1.) His batting average is poor. 1 good movie, and a few okayish parts, out of 9.<P> 2.) He's notoriously thin-skinned. For somebody who dishes a lot of shit, he can't take squat.<P> 3.) The blow-job jokes &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>do &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br> get old.<br><br><br> On the other hand...<br><br><br> 1.) He's loyal to his friends.<P> 2.) He's never made anything nearly as wretched as 300 or WATCHMEN.<P> 3.) He has a lovely singing voice. <br><br><br> But...<br><br><br> His Batman comics are garbage.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Best political quote of the day

    by PinkFloyd7

    "Sure, I'm mad at the Democrats. I'm also mad at my cell phone company. But I don't throw away my cell phone cause I'm mad and then rub dog shit on my teeth." - Bill Maher

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 7:38 p.m. CST


    by The Aquarian 1

    What's the point of demonizing Republicans? Does he really think the buck stops with a political party? This poster screams "I'M AN IDIOT AND I'M PROUD OF IT!!!!" What a stupid movie.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST

    ccchhrisssm: bullshit re: CA

    by mrgray

    Republican governor. An anti-gay marriage proposition WON the popular vote. There is a strong Latin American Catholic population. Movie studios might act liberal socially, but their economic concerns are firmly conservative. Everyone has this mistaken idea that CA is one big hippie commune, even people who live here. I've been here two years and with the possible exception of lax pot laws and tacit acceptance of homosexuals (which is crazy considering that PROP 8 FUCKING WON) I've mostly witnessed conservativism.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 10:12 p.m. CST


    by Lesbianna_Winterlude

    is living off disability. While we work hard, he is pretending to be a "let em all die in the streets" conservative. He is fooling no one.

  • Nov. 2, 2010, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk...

    by Obnoxious_Username

    You have to be one of the most insane people I've ever seen on a message board. I rarely post here but your crazy drivel forced me out. So please, do the world a favor and kill yourself. Kevin Smith and his fans are nothing but a giant joke and that poster is a piece of shit. It looks like something a fifteen-year-old put together in photoshop. Embarrassing.

  • Nov. 3, 2010, 12:04 a.m. CST

    'In a row?'

    by frank cotton

    one of the top ten greatest lines of all time

  • Nov. 3, 2010, 12:45 a.m. CST

    The most factual statistic on this talkback

    by scottiedb

    If you are bashing Kevin Smith on this talk back while describing scenes from these movies; I have news for you. You are inadvertently a fan whether you like it or not and you will probably watch this movie too.

  • Nov. 3, 2010, 1:46 a.m. CST

    Ccchhhrrriiisssm and Teh Suk should just fuck already.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • Nov. 3, 2010, 2 a.m. CST

    Ironically enough

    by HongKongCavalier

    I never heard of AICN until "J&SB Strike Back"<p></p> ... of course it was called "moviepoopshoot[dot]com" in the movie.<p></p> I gotta tell ya, after the past few years of reading the TBs, a majority of the regulars make Smith's venom understandable.<p></p> I mean, getting sand up your vagina about the Photoshop work on a teaser poster? ... really?<p></p> Saying Smith has failed at life while you post on an internet message board? ... does that irony escape you?<p></p> Personally, I think Smith's biggest mistake was fucking up with Joey ... and I think he'd agree. His movies? I dig 'em for the most part, and I'll continue to support the guy (shit, I own Mallrats, so that's proof enough that I try to support the guy no matter HOW painful it can be)

  • Nov. 3, 2010, 3:45 a.m. CST

    I like Kevin Smith.

    by Sigourneys_Beaver

    Like how he funded 'Clerks' with a couple of credit cards and went from there. The guy makes profit most of the time. The geek done good. As usual, i will definately check this out.

  • Nov. 3, 2010, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Actually, he's made a profit every time.

    by V'Shael

    Not always on opening weekend, mind. But every single one of his movies has been profitable. That was why he kept getting work. And now that he's sticking to a low budget, it's pretty certain he's going to get "the kevin smith" audience to show up and he'll have higher profit margins than his last two outings.

  • Nov. 3, 2010, 5:33 a.m. CST

    Apparently, someone showed Smith this program named Photoshop

    by JackPumpkinhead

    "See, Kevin, you can click here... see... and here... and the photo will look old and creased! And you can even make it look faded, check this out!" <p> <p> Can't wait for this to come out and get lambasted online, so that Smith does the usual: sit down and write a 15,000-word message stating how he laughs all the way and how he couldn't care less about the pathetic critiques of online viewers, because those who discuss movies online and post on message boards are worthless and their opinions do not matter. <p> Then he'll post that on his message board and join another thread to discuss movies.

  • Nov. 3, 2010, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Too Fat for 40

    by hellnback

    in his new dvd, smith makes fun of his obesity. not only that but he mentions that michael parks (who gets killed by tarantino at the start of from dusk till dawn) is the star of the movie. he also states, but in these words, that he doesn't feel like he can do movies like clerks, dogma, mallrats, etc anymore. he can't relate to the characters. it's his reason for finally branching out and directing stories done by others. it's why he did zack n miri and cop out.

  • Nov. 3, 2010, 6:57 a.m. CST


    by PTSDPete


  • Nov. 7, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Does anyone know how he submitted this to Sundance?

    by V'Shael

    Considering the LATE deadline for submissions was back in September? (The 24th, I believe.)