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Batman 3 called The Dark Knight Rises and WON'T feature the Riddler!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. What seems to be the news of the day comes from an exclusive interview with Christopher Nolan by my buddy Geoff Boucher over at the Hero Complex Blog in which he unveils the title, eliminates The Riddler as a possible villain. We've been hearing that a female lead casting notice has gone out, which does point to the possibility of Catwoman, but then again... Bruce needs a woman since his didn't quite make it out of the last film, so it could be as simple as a new Rachel-like character. Nolan was the most eager to discuss that WB has agreed to let him shoot the film without 3D and that his signature use of IMAX technology will return for THE DARK KNIGHT RISES. Read more of the interview here. The real interesting stuff is Boucher's pondering on the title and it possibly meaning a return of a still living Two-Face. He mentions visiting the set of The Dark Knight where Nolan told him that The Dark Knight refers just as much to Harvey Dent as it does to Batman. Food for thought. Anyway, give it a read and let's get the discussion started below!

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  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:50 a.m. CST

    I was curous about a Nolanified Riddler.

    by David Cloverfield

    Still, cool title. Hope for more Two-Face.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Two Face again?

    by Michael_Jacksons_Ghost

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Excellent! Bring back two face!

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    I really hope that Nolan continues to buck the comic film trend of a new movie/new villain formula.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Can't Wait!

    by charbar1

    The return of Two Face could be very cool...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:53 a.m. CST

    No Riddler? Thank God!

    by bat725

    But, don't use Two-Face--it's been done! Please use Black Mask, Penguin, Bane, and Deadshot. Make it so!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight Rises ??

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    not a fan, but its fucking Nolan so not worried<br />Would have been interested to see Nolan's take on the riddler<br />I don't mind Two Face being back, but hope we get another villian as well<br />

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Two face

    by Chief_Macho

    To be played by Jan Michael Vincent?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Something somethings

    by smackfu

    is always a bad title for something.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Riddler probably not best for ending a trilogy

    by JasonPratt

    Hunting the Dark Knight with Bane, Deadshot and Talia al-Ghul (perhaps as Catwoman) would make a lot more sense.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Go with the old Catwoman

    by Rex Carsalot

    The rumor ages ago that Selina would be a retired madam or aged film star was kind of inspired - more interesting to me than yet another version of Catwoman in black leather duking it out on the rooftops.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Female lead: Talia Al Ghul?

    by captaincrazy

    Its a trilogy after all...it all goes full circle.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:57 a.m. CST

    All Hail Nolan!!!

    by Stinkle_Your_Dinkle

    He can do no wrong

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Talia Al Ghul

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Think you could go for Selina Kyle, Talia Al Guhl being the same person

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:58 a.m. CST

    YES to Two-Face

    by the new transported man

    Killing him off in the last (bloated) movie was a mistake.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:59 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises

    by Kevin Bosch

    Sounds like a sequel. But it feels like the first film should have been called Dark Knight (I've never been crazy about the title "Batman Begins"). I was hoping for something more iconic and stand alone. Gotham Rises.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9 a.m. CST

    Nolan

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    For the last 11/12 years there hasn't been a director that can compare in terms of having so many brilliant movies<br />Yet to see the Social Network,but so far Inception is still the movie of the year for me.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:01 a.m. CST

    TENNANT FOR THE RIDDLER! Oh, shit!

    by Disgruntled_Chinaman

    Bugger!!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:02 a.m. CST

    terrible title

    by FleshMachine

    "dark knight" in the title again...kinda weak.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Should've been...

    by Kevin Bosch

    The Batman; The Dark Knight; The Caped Crusader

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Gordon-Levit as joker!!! do it.,

    by FleshMachine

    have batman say..."you seem different somehow" ..joker: "death changes a man"

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:03 a.m. CST

    SHOULD'VE BEEN CALLED "GOTHAM"

    by feebster69

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:04 a.m. CST

    2-face sucked...his "arc" made zero sense

    by FleshMachine

    from greatest guy in town to holding a gun to a kids head? all for a chick who barely reciprocated his "love"? nonsense.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:04 a.m. CST

    This is seriously....

    by Stinkle_Your_Dinkle

    the best news I've heard all month.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:05 a.m. CST

    no more dumb cartoon villians like 2face!!

    by FleshMachine

    2 face was silly...joker was very well done and believable...but riddler? catwoman..penguin? please no.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:06 a.m. CST

    shouldve been "The Dark Knight Returns!

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Nice homage to the Frank Miller Graphic Novel.....I'm just sayin'

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Shadow of the Bat was better...

    by UltimaRex

    Oh well it's just a title... We now go back to the rant in progress. <p>Armie Hammer for Superman!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:07 a.m. CST

    wasn't joker literally left hanging????

    by FleshMachine

    fuck ledger...replace him. J. gordon-levit would be great...do a bit of ledgers joker but make it his own.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST

    yeah somehtin with Gotham in the title

    by FleshMachine

    would have been good..

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Harley Quinn & Catwoman

    by Rindain

    put them both in so they can have an epic catfight

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST

    "The Empire Strikes Back Again"

    by FleshMachine

    each film should have a unique title

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Good...

    by biscuithead

    ...cause Two Face didn't get NEARLY enough screen time in DK.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST

    FleshMachine...

    by UltimaRex

    When your enemies burn off half your face tell me how you feel. Rachel was an excuse and there was foreshadowing throughout TDK.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Very glad there will be NO Riddler!

    by jdrake

    He was fine for Batman '66 but certainly NOT for The Batman of the '00s. Bravo, Nolan! Although I'm a bit befuddled with the title...reminds me too much of "Batman Forever". Doesn't sound like there was much thought put into it...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Gotham City

    by Kevin Bosch

    Call it that, and make it about the city. From the perspective of the people, who have to live with the crime. Make Batman the "villain" since thats how they see him. More of a focus on Gordon, and his fight against crime, and his fake fight against Batman. There's a new "hero" in town who's out to bring Batman to justice. He works with the police, without a mask, so he's not a vigilante, but he obviously has another agenda. Have Batman be as present as Joker was in TDK, more of a force of nature. We see Bruce Wayne the same way everybody else sees him, without a connection to Batman. The arc of the movie will be Gotham City no longer needing somebody like Batman at all, and inversely Wayne no longer having to be Batman.(It's fun to speculate even if you know its not going to happen.)

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST

    No Riddler, good!

    by templar

    There are a host of characters that they can use. I'm leaning towards the Black Mask or maybe Hush, but Hush is pretty new to the world of Batman.I was never partial to Bane. I always seen him as the DC version of Venom (sans the powers of course).

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Glad to hear there's no Riddler!

    by Righteous Brother

    he's a crap villain anyway. Would like to see Two-Face back though.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Poor Nolan...

    by Darth_Kaos

    The pressure on this guy. Don't like the title. Think it's Selina Kyle. Black Mask, main bad guy.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises...

    by chuffsterUK

    ..because he's discovered Viagra..

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    DEAD, DEAD and DEAD

    by enderandrew

    Nolan has said repeatedly that Two-Face is dead and not coming back. Eckhart has said the same thing. End of story. Doesn't Talia al Ghul make the most sense given the first film?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    The title does little to inspire

    by Madmarek

    It's lazy but meh, a title is a title. They may has well called it Batman 3 or Batman Ends if they couldn't be arsed to call it something cool. Unsure about having two face return. The entire end of Dark Knight was about protecting Harvey's legacy. Revealing he had gone psycho would mean all the bad guys he put away would be freed. Seems a weird way to end a trilogy. I'm also disappointing we don't see a Riddler. I'm sure Nolan could have created a brilliant version of the Riddler.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Two face is dead. I hate it as much as you do.

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    But dems da facts. As for the title....meh. I expected something like Shadow of the Bat. i think that would have been infinitely cooler, but somehow I suspect WB is behind this title choice because they wasnt to tie it as closely as possible with TDK.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Return of the Dark Knight...

    by grendel69

    ...was my guess for the title. And I guess so much for whatshisnames "spoilers" here a week or so back about Robin, Riddler, and Black Mask.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Your terrible, nerdy ideas

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    The mind reels at some of these ridiculous suggestions.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST

    BRING BACK TWO-FACE!!!

    by elsewhere

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Insert Erectile Dysfunction joke...NOW!

    by Simpsonian

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Make Talie al-Ghul and Catwoman the same person

    by rev_skarekroe

    Catwoman as a burglar isn't much of a foe. But a Catwoman with the same abilities as Batman is something else entirely.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Joker

    by enderandrew

    Nolan said specifically that Heath was the definitive Joker, and he won't revisit the character. Again, end of story.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:19 a.m. CST

    In regards to catwoman

    by templar

    I like her, I'm just not sure who could portray her. I like Angelina Jolie, but there are others that could do a fantastic job. Eva Green could probably pull it off, not sure of the accent though

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:19 a.m. CST

    And yes, I've been saying Talia Al Ghul for years.

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    During the live commentary event for the Blu-ray of TDK, I suggested Talia Al Ghul as Catwoman for the third film. Hopefully he read it because I think it would be the perfect capper to the trilogy.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Returns

    by elsewhere

    would have been a better title, but whatever.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    BTW...

    by grendel69

    I guessed Hugo Strange awhile back.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:21 a.m. CST

    should have called it "BATMAN"

    by TheJudger

    Because that the name to end it with. Batman Begins was just that the begining, then we got The Dark Knight. To end it with "Batman" seems logical. 2face is back, um he died. So we couldnt think of a better fortune cookie to expell, then to wade through the covered up lies of the second film to bring closure to the final chapter. Fuck.... Catwoman does not work. I saw a zbrush sculpt of her decked out in a fancy suit just like batmans and the first thing that came to mind. She must have a inside man who works for Wayne Corp's Military Defense program. No one can do the gadgets like batman. No one. Nolan is too cold to give up a proper romance story and batman isnt into thieves and crooks. Not this one anyway. Dont know what I think. Turds Rise as well. Such a lame title. honestly. Hoping to be proven wrong. Why does the batman go to the swamps in the begining of the movie. Is he after Killer Crock. That's fucking dumb...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:21 a.m. CST

    True IMAX is better than 3D anyway. Good call.

    by Gulley

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Nice title.

    by mastermold

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Can't use Dark Knight Returns

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Because then they'd have Frank Miller all up in their shit and fans might think it was based on that book.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:22 a.m. CST

    It's not that Catwoman is wrong...

    by drumble

    It's just that nobody's done her RIGHT yet!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    ya either 'Gotham' or 'Caped Crusader'

    by tangcameo

    ...or 'Batman Ends'. Or should have just left well enough alone with Dark Knight and ended it there.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    I think we can all agree its a crap title

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    I'm sure the actual movie will be awesome however.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Penguin as a tuxedo wearing mob boss?

    by tangcameo

    *'why not' shrug*

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:25 a.m. CST

    TWO FACE

    by iwontwin

    awesome! WHITE EYES AND GREY SUIT on BATs and this guy is a happy man

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:25 a.m. CST

    The Dark Night Takes a Lozenge

    by Aquatarkusman

    Sleeps with a humidifier infused with mentholatum, and gargles with warm salt water to rid himself of that crap voice.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:26 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight sinks

    by Robber_Button

    ...under a sea of exposition?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:28 a.m. CST

    ...you make your own luck

    by the new transported man

    DERRRRRRR

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:28 a.m. CST

    God I hope Two Face is back . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    . . . would be such a waist of a great origin and setup in TDK. As for a chick, I say introduce Selina Kyle, but just hint at her eventually becoming Catwoman. Don't actually have her in costume or anything.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:28 a.m. CST

    No 3D? YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

    by BP_drills_america_a_new_asshole

    Fuck 3D up its stereoscopic ass. Nolan rules again!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Yes Aquatark! No more Clint Eastwood voice!

    by tangcameo

    Well... Clint Eastwood with a chest cold voice. So what if Bruce Wayne and Batman might sound alike. Superman and reporter Clark Kent look alike. Sayyyyy ... could it be? Naaaaaah

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Seriously, If He's Worried ABout Being ID'ed

    by Aquatarkusman

    (which anyone with half a brain should have been able to do by now), use one of those cool amplifiers throat cancer patients use... with Auto-Tuning.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST

    I fucking hate movies with "rise" in the title.

    by Wolfman Nards

    "Rise of the Cobra", "Rise of the Silver Surfer", "Rise of the Lycans", "Rise of the Machines", "Van Wilder: The Rise of Taj". This list goes on and on... and they are all terrible movies. Terrible.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight and The Sea...

    by tangcameo

    For Whom The Dark Knight Tolls

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Cast Sean Astin as The Penguin ! ! !

    by Squashua

    SEAN ASTIN AS THE CHARACTER HE PLAYED IN "BORDERLAND" IS THE PENGUIN!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Exclusive Dark Knight Rises script leak here!!

    by 69DUDE

    After fleeing from the cops after Harvey Dent fell off a thing and died, Batman is now a Bad-Man (gettit?) in the eyes of Gotham'ers. Sitting around in a newly built Wayne Manor, playboy millionaire Bruce Forysth polishes his Batman helmet furiously. His butler, Albert, tries to make him feel better by dressing up as The Joker and perpetually jabbing Bruce in the ribs to annoy him. Help arrives, though not needed, in the form of 'Holy Dick' Grayson, who has the magical ability to turn into a small bird. They immediately call him Robin due to his red breasts. Him and Bruce sleep in the same bed and everything. Anyway, just as they're about to go off and fight another master criminal, the big reveal is that Gotham city is actually inside a small snowglobe being held by Christopher Nolan who cackles maniacally as he smashes it into the ground. Roll credits.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:33 a.m. CST

    turd rise from the grave

    by TheJudger

    You, you're ok. This title, real fuckin ugly. The Return of the "Other" Jedi. Star Wars Rises <P> Star "More" Wars. <P> I'm calling cold piddys. Someone feels the need to play off of the Dark Knight title, to pull em back in. I got as bad feeling about this.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Why do we see the same villians in the Batman movies?

    by Madmarek

    Nolan proved with the first Batman you don't need to use the same villains over and over again for it to be a great story. Ra's Al Ghul was a superb character so why not explore unused characters? There's plenty to choose from, Bane (done properly), Black Mask, Hush, Mr. Zsasz and The Ventriloquist. Any of these under Nolan's supervision could make for a great on screen villain. It sounds like Nolan's gone a bit lazy and just wants this one over with so he can move onto new projects.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST

    I would have preferred "Hunt the Dark Knight"

    by Daytripper69

    ... as the title, if they absolutely had to use the words "Dark Knight" in the title. Still, I'm behind Nolan 100% --- he could have called the movie "Dude, Where's My Batmobile" and I'd still watch it.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST

    No 3D - Nolan has some serious power

    by I_Snake_Plissken

    And hats off to him for sticking to his guns. Best news of the day!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST

    the villain should be the jokers twin brother

    by TheJudger

    but he isn't idenitical. Why do films have to be "exactly" like the comics. Take some chances. twoface is dead and it would be weak as hell to use him again. He's the easter egg for someone else to find. Wonder how they got his faced fixed up- but still held a funeral for him. I mean that shit look bad, like dead in a few days bad if you get help. whatever

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST

    SHADOW OF THE DARK KNIGHT would be a better title

    by SpyGuy

    Or LEGEND OF THE DARK KNIGHT. Anything that keeps immature talkbackers from making erection jokes.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:38 a.m. CST

    This is just a "placeholder" title

    by JRcanReid

    Real title will be: "The Dark Knight R3turns."

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:39 a.m. CST

    69Dude

    by Daytripper69

    Have you been smoking the drapes again?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:40 a.m. CST

    KRISTEN BELL AS HARLEY QUINN!

    by PennsyDeux

    You know it to be true.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Ras Al Ghul?

    by Darth Valinorean

    It could be Ras Al Ghul - as a parallel to the rise of the East in our world, here you have a real possible villain who has the infrastructure / corporation / team / resources that would rival Bruce Wayne's resources. And it can be based in gritty gangland realism as well, with perhaps a hint to the Lazarus Pits.

  • He says, "“We’ll use many of the same characters as we have all along, and we’ll be introducing some new ones,” Nolan said cryptically. It's the interviewer who speculates this may mean Harvey. For me this suggests the villain will be someone not seen before in Nolan's Batman movies.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Good.

    by Anna Valerious

    Although I would like to see more "Batman" adventures...and have David Tennant as the Riddler in the next one after this one...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:43 a.m. CST

    We need Harley Quinn or Catwoman

    by Rindain

    Nolan's trilogy needs one of the major female Batman characters. And these two are the best choices imo (Talia would require that someone saw Batman Begins).

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:43 a.m. CST

    The Empire "Rises" Back, The Return of The "Rising" Jedi

    by TheJudger

    The Godfather 2 "Rises", Army of The "Rising" Darkness, Howard The Duck "Rises", Halloween 2 part 2: More of the Night He "Rises" Home Again.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Now that I think about Riddler

    by David Cloverfield

    Only works well if he's a surprise.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Ellen Page as "Boy Ass"

    by Stuntcock Mike

    .

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:47 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises = Two-Face

    by elsewhere

    Two-Face is rising from the grave. Get ready for it!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:48 a.m. CST

    tom hardy, aka bronson

    by palewook

    is already cast. its a question of which rumor you believe as to which character hardy is playing. bane, black mask, bullock, croc, mr freeze, and the riddler were the rumors. <p> riddler and freeze have both been publicly ruled out by nolan. bullock has been denied and confirmed, nobody knows if thats true or untrue. mask and croc seem a stretch for nolan's batman universe. <p> bane, however, could work in a story about a vigilante paid to come and hunt down the outlawed batman. like a DC version of spiderman's hunt storyline (kraven paid to bring spiderman in).

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Stuntcock Mike

    by imagegod

    thanks for the laugh. and truth.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:48 a.m. CST

    RA'S AL GHUL, please! His ENTIRE GIMMICK is Resurrection!

    by George Newman

    Why kill the immortal Ra's Al Ghul in the first film if NOT to to set up his Resurrect in a later film?!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:48 a.m. CST

    My brother wasnt good at telling stories

    by TheJudger

    He was better at playing games. Wanna know why I gave him those scars.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:49 a.m. CST

    RISES!?!? Porno name.

    by TheBLIGHT

    Seriously...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Lame title. Too many things rising.

    by JediRob

    It almost feels like they don't want it to stray too far from the last one, which was one of the great ballsy moves of TDK.<br><br>Not that I have any better ideas, or that it has anything to do with how good the movie will be, it just doesn't do it for me at first glance, the way "The Dark Knight" did instantly.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST

    The First Dark Knights Evening Clouds with Full Moon is good.

    by chadiwack

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight Returns, surely?

    by davidwebb

    I had hoped that using TDK as the title would have set that up for the third, but oh well.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST

    it would be cool

    by imagegod

    if it was the riddler afterall, and they were somehow able to keep it a secret. as you're watching the film the riddler begins to reveal himself as the villain. that would be awesome. keeping that a secret these days would be pretty much impossible though, shame.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:51 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight: Rachel in pieces.

    by chadiwack

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:51 a.m. CST

    They repeated a million times that Face is dead dead.

    by George Newman

    and yeah, I am referencing Batman Forever with the nickname. Watched it last night, just by chance, and I don't want to see the riddler in another film. Let's not repeat characters in the two series if we can avoid it.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    stunt & image: ellen page's next film

    by palewook

    Ellen Page to Play A Lesbian. (nope, i'm not kidding) <p>http://tinyurl.com/2438upt

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:52 a.m. CST

    FleshMachine

    by TheBLIGHT

    Agreed. You nailed it! Totally. He went all to pieces over fish face? Bullshit.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Daytripper69

    by 69DUDE

    Can neither confirm or deny that.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Chicago please.

    by JDR

    I really hope they shoot in Chicago, or, at the very least, partially in Chicago. Nolan's Gothan is Chicago. The city plays the part of Gotham. And I think it's big part of his Batman series. I'm disappointed by this DC-New Orleans stuff.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    "Bruce Needs a Woman"

    by Autodidact

    No, he doesn't. How about we let the obsessive psychotic in the batsuit concentrate on fighting crime for one movie?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Why am I not excited about this?

    by ragingfluff

    Oh, right, because I didn't like "The Dark Knight". In fact, I thought it was shit. Okay, go ahead, you can berate me now

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Bruce with a woman

    by 69DUDE

    If there has to be a woman involved, I want to see Bruce chirp like an actual bat during intercourse. I think they did that with Michael Keaton, but it got cut. All that's left of the scene is the bit where he hangs off the swing upside down.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Hmmm...

    by PacManatee

    Not sure I like the title at all actually - feels too tethered to the Dark Knight and not to the series as a whole - "Gotham City", or "The Caped Crusader" or something different yet inextricably Batman would have been preferable. Agree on the no Riddler thing, too similar to Joker, but not as cool. Funny no one's mentioned that Hardy couldn't be playing the Joker himself...as for villains, Professor Pyg might be a bit brutal but would have been cool. Black Mask makes the most sense, in that he is a mirror of Bruce, not Batman, but I still want Penguin in there at least (now that Falcone and Maroni are done for, it makes sense for someone to step in and take over Gotham's underworld)

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Please, no Catwoman.

    by NightArrows

    Don't want to see her, don't want to see her, don't want to see her.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Ra's Al Ghul resurrected with Talia as the love interest

    by SpyGuy

    That's your movie and it brings everything full circle.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:02 a.m. CST

    palewook

    by imagegod

    oh i see, she must be the man of the relationship with that flat boy bum of hers.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    I don't like resurrection...

    by PacManatee

    Actual resurrection would throw the series in too much of a fantasy/sci-fi direction, spoiling the vibe of the two previous movies. If they treat Ras' immortality like they did in the first film, where Ras is just a title taken up by the next in line when the current one dies (as Neeson did for Watanabe) then that would work okay - just no Lazarus pits please...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Can't wait for the...

    by 69DUDE

    ..inevitable blaxploitation reboot coming in 2015 called 'Blackman Begins'.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Problem with Harley Quinn

    by MonkeyManReturns

    ...is that you need the Joker. The two go together. With the Joker, Quinn is simply redundant. The only way to introduce her is as Joker's shrink (as per her story) in the Asylum...which may work seeing that the Joker is meant to be in the Arkham...As for the others, Catwoman will come across as a s&m disciple which will always be cheesy in a Batman movie...which doesn't leave many other options other than Jane Doe (not exactly child friendly), Talia Al Ghul...or POISON IVY (She would never be cheesy)...but if done right, could be an eco villian based in reality.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Sorry - mistake above..

    by MonkeyManReturns

    WITHOUT the joker...Quinn is redundant....

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:08 a.m. CST

    "The Dark Knight's Penis Rises"

    by MrMysteryGuest

    There! I said it! I win!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:09 a.m. CST

    autodidact

    by imagegod

    couldn't agree more! please, there is no need for Batman to have a goddam girlfriend. <p> Instead he should become far more obsessive over controlling the streets of Gotham. i was secretly dissappointed in Dark Knight when he destroyed the machine as per Fox's request. i was hoping to see Batman was becoming more the master, not needing Fox anymore and steering toward a lonely path of crimefrighting.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Should be BANE

    by The Krypton Kid

    Batman needs a nemesis who will test his physical limits this time around.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    I'd hate to be Aaron Eckhart's cell phone, right now

    by Doc_Hoptopus

    "Dead" my ass...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST

    really??!

    by murren

    THE DARK KNIGHT RISES.? dont like

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Female Lead...

    by PacManatee

    How about Lady Shiva? She could conceivably have inherited the league of shadows (which was originally the league of assassins in the comic books, and where she would have fitted in prefectly), become the new Ras (I see no reason why the Demons Head has to be a man) and best of all is easily a match for Batman physically...just throwing it out there?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:13 a.m. CST

    BIG FAN!

    by 2for2true

    But I wouldn't waste my money on a Catwoman arch villain. The idea that some skafootz would have the balls to threaten a city between trips to the nail salon and yoga class is ridiculous.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Um...about Two Face

    by FlyingToupee

    His brain was damaged by the explosion. There are monitors with Dent's brain x-rays in the hospital room. Do you guys really believe he had a minor flesh wound? His mental illness combined with his tragedy made him go over the edge. Not that hard to figure out, people.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:14 a.m. CST

    no 3D

    by murren

    god send

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:14 a.m. CST

    PacManatee /joker/hardy

    by palewook

    nolan has already said several times, there will be no joker. nolan doesn't want to diminish what leadger did as the joker nor put any actor in the situation of trying to bring that character back.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Danny DeVito as "Bat-Mite"

    by Doc_Hoptopus

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Stop just writing off Two-Face...

    by andrew coleman

    What is holding the story back from having him? They had a funeral for him... Right but they could easily have Face locked up and just had a fake funeral to preserve his image. The story could be easy the League of Shadows returns. They hire Dead-shot to finish off Batman as they help release Two-face from prison and make some plan to destroy Gotham for good. There you go old villains with a new one.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Talia and Ra's

    by LOST_FAN

    That would be something great

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST

    monkeyman /quinn

    by palewook

    a possible story that could work would feature quinn showing up in gotham hunting for the joker and trying to even the score with batman when she finds out the joker is on trial. <p> not a story nolan would tell. just saying its not impossible to work a batman vs quinn stand-alone movie out of 3.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST

    My Dark Knight is rising right now!

    by HomerJay1

    well, it's not dark, it's white, but you know what I mean... I've got a hard on. I'm trying to say my penis is erect.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Harvy Dent is Dead

    by Sirmausalot

    However Two Face is alive and well.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Stupid title, let's hope for a more lively film

    by kevred

    For all the nice, compelling qualities of TDK, ultimately it seemed a cold, airless, stiff film to me. (And BB bored the heck out of me.) I hope this last (?) one shows some real heart and passion to it. I say this as someone who loved the old Dark Knight comic and respects what Nolan's done, but wants to really enjoy it more.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:20 a.m. CST

    spectrebeeyatch, two face.

    by palewook

    it gets weird that nolan continues to say two face is dead. <p> when nolan was first brough into the batman films he gave a telling interview about what he wanted to do for 3 films. batman 1 was to be the origins story. batman 2 was to be the joker's story with the creation of two-face. and batman 3 would have been the trial of the joker with the ending of batman vs two face. <p> the studio got ahold of nolan after that. the interview was buried and nolan has never talked much about his original idea for the trilogy since. <p> but it would seem that even with ledger's death, part of nolan's original idea for the trilogy could be salvaged.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Perfectly happy with the title

    by Darth_Tarantino

    And the fact that Riddler won't feature. In Nolan we trust.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Even if Harvey Dent wasn't dead...

    by HoffmanPasander

    ... do you retards think that Gordon would have just let him get up and run away and go about his merry business without apprehending him first? HE'S NOT COMING BACK.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST

    CATWOMAN Is Pretty Much A Gimme At This Point

    by LaserPants

    Can't wait!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Obviously the Penguin

    by Fletz

    I love the idea that Salvatore, who was dropped from a building and messed up his legs becomes a "real life" Penguin. The waddle would be there and the anger fpr revenge would be there. What makes these films great is the way the bad guys could exist in our world.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:31 a.m. CST

    "rises" brings the possibility of the nightfall story arc

    by Rickey Henderson

    Which would corroborate the rumors of hardy being cast as bane. It would be risky, but if anyone can pull it off its nolan.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST

    even if this flick isn't as monumental as Dark Knight

    by smudgewhat

    that's ok with me b/c DK will be hard to top. if it has its own interesting vibe and attitude then i'm setting my brain ahead of time to take it for what it is.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight Risese more than implies...

    by Dan Halen

    that the trilogy must end on an up note. No? SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST

    how about DARK KNIGHT OF THE MOON?

    by Rickey Henderson

    That would work, yes?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight Rises? Sounds like Bat Porn

    by VictorvonGarzo

    Morning Glory in Gotham City

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Dark of the Moon

    by 2007

    Dark Knight Rises meh. if it's nolan it's all good...losers. bring on more batman that isn't as smart as sherlock or even zorro. they should call the movie driving miss daisy but with bruce wayne the pouter. batman doesn't need a love interest but hollowood does and thus these movies will never be as good as people say they are.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Tom Hardy = Jean-Paul Valley

    by zillabeast

    KNIGHTFALL = WIN

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Boring title but Nolan knows what he's doing

    by thot

    so I trust him. I hope to the Lord above he doesn't bring back the ultra-lame Two Face. Talk about a grossly mishandled character in TDK. And some of you thought Venom was botched in SM:3! It was ridiculous and seemed tacked on at the end. The over the top fx for his face were cringe-worthy too. On the other hand, we do need to see Selina Kyle, even if she's not "Catwoman" exactly. Bruce needs a love interest to ground him and make him more relatable. TDK lacked a bit of soul and passion. It was a good film but was a bit flat for me.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Could Tom Hardy be portraying Hush?

    by SpyGuy

    Hush is enough of a "real life" Batman villain to fit into Nolan's Batuniverse and Hardy would certainly fit that role well.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Why Catwoman makes sense

    by PopcornJockey

    At the end of Dark Night, Batman has been cast as Gotham's new villain. I see Catwoman appearing as a sort of replacement for him--she is ambiguous, starts out taking revenge on criminal elements, and starts to be seen as the new hero in town. But she has larger, more sinister plans. It's up to Batman to expose those plans and reclaim his status as Gotham's savior. Then again... that is probably far too obvious a plot for a Christopher Nolan movie. :/

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:40 a.m. CST

    I thought it was kind of weird how Batman stood there

    by Crimson Dynamo

    while Harvey's face was on fire. He didn't have anything in that belt that would put out a fire? Bactine?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:41 a.m. CST

    knightfall/knightsend is an awesome storyline but...

    by Y282

    you'd never get it all in to one film convincingly. good call on tom hardy as azrael tho.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Lame title...

    by George_clooneys_caesar_cut

    But in Nolan I trust. Anyway didn't he already "rise". First he began, then he arouse unto his own, and now he should just be. Hence a better title would have been simply "THE BATMAN". I am very happy that he isn't caving in and using 3D though and I'm even more happy that he isn't using The Riddler. I've been saying for years that Nolan would never use that character. I'm glad we can put those lame Johnny Depp or JGL has a Zodiac killer type of Riddler rumors to rest.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Yeah, HoffmanPasander . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    . . . cause Bat-Villains NEVER strike more than once.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Why does everyone...

    by boosebaster

    ...spout out their retarded "ideas" in the seriously fucked-up misbelief that Nolan is scouring this TB for inspiration?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:47 a.m. CST

    What's up with the Riddler hate??

    by Mosasaur

    He's a great foil to Bruce Wayne's intelligence, and could easily been done right.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST

    knightfall would work fine...

    by Rickey Henderson

    They open the movie with bale getting his back broken, bring in hardy as azrael, and then build up to bats coming back in the finale. Nolan is a master of time tricks. He can pull it off.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight 2 : Electric Boogaloo

    by DVaderRIP

    Surely this is the obvious title choice? Can someone get Nolan on the phone?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    The Riddler should be...

    by KubricksBellEnd

    Jim Carrey. Makes perfect sense to me. No, don't thank me. I was just doing my duty as a good citizen.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    the riddler wouldve been "joker 2.0"

    by Rickey Henderson

    Rickey is glad the riddler isn't in this movie.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Two Face not coming back

    by jimmy_009

    It would be dumb. You bring back characters in comics. You're only getting a few movies in a series, there's no way they're going to bring back the guy that was just in the last one. There's no novelty in that. It doesn't make financial sense because people don't want to pay to see the same bad guy AGAIN - especially not one that only made a marginal impact. It's not like the general public was all abuzz about Two Face and need more, more, more! They will do what they always do which is to get a new villain for a new movie. If Two Face comes back it won't be as the main villain.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:52 a.m. CST

    they should go back and rename the first movie...

    by TheBaxter

    The Dark Knight of the Scarecrow. and then quint can review it for AMAD.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Whoever had the idea of

    by Rodie

    Combining Talia and Selina Kyle/Catwoman into one character is pretty genius. Sure it trashes the comics but I'm pretty sure there are plenty of contradictions in the comics too. Anyway, this idea would bring the trilogy full circle but also introduce a new character, love interest and new intriguing spin on an iconic character all simultaneously.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Hey, Boosebaster

    by Fletz

    We're just sharing ideas, Stupid. Not expecting Nolan will listen to us.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    I thought, still think, Batman Begins was a lame title

    by Bass Ackwards

    So that Dark Knight Rises is a little lame too doesn't bother me. And I'm glad not to see the Riddler, not that I don't like the Riddler, but Datk Knight did the superhero vs arch-enemy comic book story line about as well as you could. The Riddler would just be more of the same. I kind of hope e third flick has a bit if Batman: Year One (with Bats being hunted by the cops) but also just completely colors out of the lines in regards to comic book stories to really blow us away.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Rickey, wasn't Azrael the cat from THE SMURFS?

    by YackBacker

    That reminds me, I have to get my Halloween costume under control...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST

    I like Nolan's Bat films but...

    by boosebaster

    ...it does annoy me that there is never any indication that this is the DC Universe - a place where aliens, magic, Hell, Superman etc exist. The ground rules have already been established as a particular kind of "reality" and they're not going to move those goalposts for the next instalment. Personally I'd love it if there was a glimpse of Superman or something on a TV in the background but it ain't gonna happen.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST

    They should have used TDK Returns

    by KilliK

    way better title and more fit imho.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Catwoman is a given since Nolan is auditioning for this role:

    by KilliK

    http://on.io9.com/dbNwHA<br /> <br /> <p>ofc she wont be the main villain,so the question is who is going to be the main villain? 2-face again? or 2-face together with another villain,maybe Bane or Killer Croc? time will tell.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:58 a.m. CST

    fuck and yes, yack.

    by Rickey Henderson

    Just do what Rickey did for halloween many years ago: buy a potato, stick it in a wool hat, and wear the hat. Presto, you are now BOY WITH BRAIN TUMOR. Its a hit with the ladies!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:58 a.m. CST

    It SHOULD have been the Frank Miller book!

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    That makes the most sense to conclude a trilogy. Have it set a long time after Dark Knight. Then you can have an old guy play Joker.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Catwoman

    by WiscoJoe

    Catwoman will be a villian. In Dark Knight Alfred has a line about how Batman's new armor will protect him against dogs, but not against cats. I took this as major foreshadowing that Nolan intended to bring in Catwoman for the third film. Besides, we need a strong female character in Nolan's Gotham. I love the idea of having Talia as Catwoman, perhaps she is undercover in Gotham with the code name Selina Kyle, posing as an heiress or a prostitue (go with the prostitute angle, way more "Nolanesque.") Or... What if Rachel was saved at the last minute by the League of Shadows? She is badly burned and incredibly bitter that Batman/Bruce couldn't save her. She's trained into a lethal ninja and wears a cat outfit to cover her scars. She returns to Gotham to exact her revenge against Batman, while simultaneously falling in love with him again. Then Batman and Catwoman/Rachel have to team up and take on the League of Shadows. Two different actresses played Rachel in the first two movies. Get a new actress play Rachel in this one so that her true identity can be a major twist. This would tie the first two movies together and wrap it up nicely. Will Liam Neeson return? Does Ra's al Ghul have the lazarus pit or something similar but "realistic" in the nolanverse? If the lazarus pit is around, will Two Face rise from the dead? Not too disappointed about the Riddler. I was hoping they would call this film "The Dark Knight Detective," but that's when I assumed the Riddler was the villian and Batman would be solving a mindbending mystery. Hope DK Rises is a working title. Go with something new like Gotham City or Arkham Asylum or Shadow of the Bat. And thank god Nolan won't be forced to incorporate 3D. And yes, this movie has my mind reeling with all the possibilities.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:59 a.m. CST

    BTW its official Cameron is making Avatar 2 and 3 until 2015

    by KilliK

    so no Battle Alita or Cleopatra or anything else by the King,until then.FUCK.<br /> <p>here is the official announcement: http://bit.ly/a4y0nN

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:01 a.m. CST

    I predict there will be NO villains at all

    by ricarleite2

    It will be all about Batman's return and salvation.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Me thinks...

    by Bash_Branigan

    Visually the best enemies are Poison Ivy and Clayface; If we're going "gritty" instead then I have to say Black Mask, or Penguin. In fact, I think Penguin would work if they forget about making him look like a penguin, just made him someone of less than average height, w/Tux and tails, trick umbrellas, and a penguin more as his calling card than a gimmick (read: No actual penguins in the film)

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:03 a.m. CST

    hey, they should recast rachel again!

    by Rickey Henderson

    Bring back her character from the dead and recast her again just to drive home the point about how completely terrible katie holmes was in BB!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:06 a.m. CST

    I'm actually more interested in the next take on Batman.

    by Chewtoy

    Batman Begins has grown on me with multiple viewings while The Dark Knight has just seemed more and more of a mixed bag. Ultimately though, I feel Nolan has shown his bag of tricks by now. His gritty realism style feels too confining, making all possibilities for future villains seem alike (not that the prior movies weren't extremely guilty of this too, having all villains do a riff on Jack Nicholson's Joker or Pfieffer's Catwoman. Tonal changes in villains is a good thing, Hollywood.). I look forward to seeing if he can prove me wrong, but then I more eagerly await whomever comes next and the new directions they might take with it.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Catwoman and Talia Ghul as the same person? cool idea

    by KilliK

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:08 a.m. CST

    yack, as per our discussion, bring back "pathetic scarecrow"!

    by Rickey Henderson

    He's like Gil from the simpsons: sad yet hilarious!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    going to lunch fuckers

    by Rickey Henderson

    This is the first time in a year rickey has posted on AICN. A proper bats TB has lured rickey from exile.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Amen, Chewtoy.

    by lprothro

    These are decent crime dramas, if you're into that sort of thing, but in my opinion certainly not Batman movies. Nolan is too comitted to "realism" to even have any fight scenes, fights do sometimes happen in real life you know!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    No Riddler and no 3D?? YES!

    by HardSteel

    That is some great news!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:13 a.m. CST

    No Emo-Bat

    by YerMomsBox

    No, Batman does NOT need a woman. One of the many, many flaws of these flicks.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:14 a.m. CST

    LATE JULY 2012.....

    by HarryWhereIsYourInceptionReview

    Harry.......where is your "The Dark Knight Rises" review???

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Villain will be either Black Mask or Hugo Strange

    by brocknroll

    I'm pretty sure I'm right it's going to be either Black Mask or Hugo Strange. I'm actually glad they aren't using the Riddler.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:17 a.m. CST

    OK, guy with script...show yourself!

    by robertplant

    C'mon, where is he...the guy that has the fucking batman 3 script ready to go...where Batman was supposedly "outed" as Bruce wayne in the dark knight, and bruce goes around teling everyone, "Aw, shuchks, I'm not batman!" and catwoman shows up in wayne manor in the first 10 pages. C'mon, guy. Get it over with. Where's the link to your fucking bad script? C'mon....

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:17 a.m. CST

    OK, guy with script...show yourself!

    by robertplant

    C'mon, where is he...the guy that has the fucking batman 3 script ready to go...where Batman was supposedly "outed" as Bruce wayne in the dark knight, and bruce goes around teling everyone, "Aw, shuchks, I'm not batman!" and catwoman shows up in wayne manor in the first 10 pages. C'mon, guy. Get it over with. Where's the link to your fucking bad script? C'mon....

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Next casting news?

    by WiscoJoe

    So who will be announced as the female lead? I heard a rumor that Marion Cottilard turned down the role of Catwoman, which is disappointing because she was my first choice after seeing her sexy/scary performance in Inception. Angelina Jolie seems the obvious answer as she is both a certified action star and sex symbol, but she would probably ruin the balance of the film just by force of her celebrity. Personally would love to see a strong woman of color in the role, just to add some much needed diversity to the nolanverse. Zoe Saldana? Thandie Newton? Penelope Cruz? Otherwise, I love the thought of Charlize Theron. If she could combine the graceful action from "Aeon Flux" with the pathetic lunacy of "Monster" she could create a Catwoman to equal Ledger's Joker.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Return of Two-Face is easy

    by atalcot

    I think it would be entirely plausible that Dent survived the fall and that Gordon had him hidden away at Arkham to protect his reputation/keep him out of jail where he would have been murdered by the criminals he put away. (Gordon already showed that faking a death was in his bag of tricks). Two-Face is Batman's biggest failure and he's really the most logical choice for connecting this film with the last.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:21 a.m. CST

    In the third film, Batman needs to become a myth....

    by SK229

    I think what Nolan needs to do in this film is have Batman pass into myth... I don't see any other way for him to survive as a character in Nolan's universe unless he undergoes some kind of transformation... it would be interesting if in this one, Wayne became obsessed with the more mythic aspects of the alter-ego he's created and realizes that in order to truly scare the shit out of the villains, they need to see the Batman as almost a ghost or a magical figure. Basically, I think he needs to end up, character-wise, where Burton started off. I know he KIND of did that at the beginning of TDK, but I honestly don't think he can keep this reality angle for another 2.5 hour film. The first film had more of that mythical aspect than the second one, which was Heat with superheroes. I love TDK, I think it's brilliant at times, but I think he's missing an opportunity here where the only truly logical place to go is for Wayne to somehow subvert every notion among criminals that he or any other human is The Batman, and have Batman reborn as a something truly apart from himself or any notion of being human.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST

    I thought the title suck until I took my zoloft

    by okayplease

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Thank god no Riddler

    by NeoDevilbaneX

    Though wasn't it already said like a year ago that "the villain" wouldn't be a villain seen in any existing Batman movies? Makes this kind of non-news. Neat title.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Ledger's death dooms this film

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Let's face it, if he had lived the Joker would be in this movie, no doubt about it. And he would have been the most anticipated thing in it.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Thank you, Nolan, for no 3D.

    by daggor

    A Nolan Riddler could be fun - I would assume he'd be more Hannibal Lecter-like. Face eating optional.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:25 a.m. CST

    My idea: Gary Oldman will become the villain

    by Reckoner

    The transformation of his character will be one-third of the movie. The mob will get him on their side and he will become a dark screwed-up character because the Joker and Two-Face fucked him up. Think of all the plot possibilities with just that one idea.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Harley Quinn and Two Face would make the most sense

    by alienindisguise

    As long as they change Harley's awful as fuck jersey accent I'm all about it.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Color Scheme and Tone

    by WiscoJoe

    Another thing I'm excited about is the color scheme. Batman Begins was rooted in browns, Dark Knight in blues and DK Rises will be black. I have a feeling Nolan planned the color scheme to coincide the evolution of Batman's costume in the comics from brownish to bluish to black. Nolan said the tone of the first film was inspired by "Blade Runner" while DK was inspired by "Heat." What will be his visual reference for DK Rises? A lot of people are suggesting "Seven," but that was when people assumed the Riddler would be a Kevin Spacey like serial-killer.

  • Bruce survived as well.and dont bring me the argument that he was wearing the bat-suit,because if you know your physics,you would know that the energy from the fall would have been absorbed from his body during the impact,regardless if he was wearing an armor or not.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    JAVIER BARDEM for BANE!

    by NeoDevilbaneX

    I'll say it again. :)

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Shadow of the Bat

    by Kobolos

    Would be perfect for this upcoming movie. What a bad title they went with.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:27 a.m. CST

    cont'd: And with an actor like Oldman

    by Reckoner

    it could be fuckin' awesome

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Rising does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    <p>THE FAT GINGERMAN RISES<p> Nolan titled it in response to Harry's INCEPTION review.<p> Wake the fuck up Knowles!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:28 a.m. CST

    TDK is to superhero movies what David Hume was to philosophy

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    In its greatness, it has set up this canonical arc and created a sort of mythic barrier which will hinder everything (including the next batman movie). Oh, and I don't understand those of you who think that Bane or Clayface (or Killer fucking Croc!) would fit in with Nolan's universe.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST

    DK overrated!

    by darthwaz1

    I love Begins though!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Glad to see no 3D

    by skydemon

    I'll take IMAX over 3D anyday. Can't wait for this movie, and hoping it continues the same quality of the previous two.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Fake does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Trying typing in THEDARKKNIGHTRISES.com into your internet browser... or try this link<p> http://www.thedarkknightrises.com/<p> You'll find the webpage is unowned and available to buy.<p> DO YOU THINK WARNER BROS WOULD ALLOW THAT?<p> I'd strongly suggest that title might be incorrect / fake.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Kinda hoping that...

    by WeylandYutani

    they would call the 3rd film GOTHAM. <P> DARK KNIGHT RISES is too derivative of part 2 IMO.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Totally agree about bringing back Ra's/Dent..

    by darthwaz1

    When Nolan took on the franchise he promised he wouldn't repeat Burton's mistake of killing off the villains! Two Face can very easily still be alive, his fall probably just knocked him unconscious. And Ra's we all know is immortal so there's no way he was killed in a train crash!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:36 a.m. CST

    No Riddler, No Catwoman, Two Face is DEAD!!!!

    by notcher

    The hiring of Tom Hardy leads me to believe the villain will probably be a man. Hopefully, he's not supported by Catwoman. I hate that character in the comics and every fucking movie or show she was in. WOMEN are NOT good villains. PERIOD!!!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:37 a.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises

    by RedLeaderStandingBy

    Brought to you by Viagra.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:38 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    www.thedarkknight.com takes you to the official dark knight WB website.<p> www.thedarkknightrises.com takes you to an available to buy page.<p> If, and its a big if, Warner Bros is going with THE DARK KNIGHT RISES as the genuine title then one of us boys could slip in and buy that web name and hold them to ransom for thousands of bucks!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:39 a.m. CST

    and...

    by WeylandYutani

    pls allow Two Face to have been killed off in TDK... While he was one of the best screen villains in recent memory, it would weaken the Dent character arc - if he returns, he really isn't that tragic of a character in the end. Let him be dead. <P> So new villains please... but not too many, we don't want a "catalogue of evil" like in BATMAN & ROBIN. Blech.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Batman will face off against Swiss Miss.

    by The Reluctant Austinite

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:41 a.m. CST

    MR REESE

    by ballsxcrew

    'Mysteries.' It should be the riddler, and they should replace the buck tooth dork that nearly outed Bruce Wayne. As far as the protection from cats thing goes; that better have been a slight mention of 'returns.' Using catwoman would be embarrassing and way too obvious. ALSO now that everyone got Ledger as Joker, there is NO WAY the studio will let Nolan use a widely unknown villian for the final film just to appease to purist dundle bones.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Awaiting JettL's confirmation

    by Amazing Maurice

    We need the troof!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:42 a.m. CST

    "Women are NOT good villains." WHAAAAAA?????????????????????

    by LaserPants

    Guess you never saw Audition. Or ever read a noir novel. Or been in a bad relationship. And so on and so forth...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Hunt The Dark Knight

    by GrandMuffTarkin

    Given the ending to TDK, I thought it would be more along the lines of this title, with the Batman as outlaw concept.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:44 a.m. CST

    "Ohhhh, Good For You!"

    by GrandMuffTarkin

    That would have been good as well.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Egghead and King Tut

    by Aquatarkusman

    CGI-Vincent Price and VIctor Buono!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:45 a.m. CST

    After Nolan's final Batman...

    by kidicarus

    I hope to never see another Batman film adaptation again, because how the hell could you possibly top Nolan? Although I'm sure some ass will try to, and fail.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Ledger's Death and the Third Film

    by WiscoJoe

    It seems pretty obvious that whatever Nolan may have had planned for the third film was scrapped when Ledger died. I have a feeling that the last twenty minutes of The Dark Knight was tacked on after Ledger's death and is probably a good summary of what the third film would have been had Ledger not died and the Joker returned. Mr. Reese would have been introduced as the Riddler, Joker would be pulling strings from Arkham and Two-Face would be exacting revenge on the streets of Gotham. When Ledger died Nolan must have taken a step back, re-edited the ending of DK and took a fresh look at what to do with part 3. That being said, a lot of it could be reinterpreted. For example, Tom Hardy could be playing Harvey Bullock, an idealistic public servant that becomes a villain half-way through the movie bent on taking down Batman and Gordon, ala Two-Face.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:48 a.m. CST

    HAHA, Love your post laser pants....

    by notcher

    However, unless Catwoman is a creepy ghost crawling out of a television or two little girls saying "Come play with us Batman" or a woman who tortures people to death, I just don't see this particular character working in a film. Outside of a horror film, name a good female villain.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Catwoman?

    by hobbitfeet

    Surely Fox's comment about Batmans suit holding up against "cats" has got be a character reference nod. After the Halle Berry debacle I can't also help but think that WB might want to give her some screen justice. My dream team? Philip Seymour Hoffman as the Penguin and Angelina Jolie as Catwoman. But that's just me!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST

    basic instinct

    by ballsxcrew

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:51 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    WiscoJoe, I could be wrong but I think Ledger died during the filming of IMAGINARIUM OF DR PARNASSUS not TDK.<p> I believe Ledger had completed all his work on TDK and so the movie would have been unaffected in the ways you suggest.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Hopefully...

    by JamesGANDERPeek

    This won't do what every 3rd superhero film does and flop...here's to hoping.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST

    damn dirty ape -

    by sweeneydave

    They've ALL been lazy titles. Batman Begins. The Dark Knight. Seems like Nolan goes by the "don't judge a book by it's cover" philosophy.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Title works as concept...

    by capt.haddock

    with Batman on the run and his eventual redemption. But I was definitely hoping for a more stand-alone title for the third. Also was really hoping that we would see the Riddler - I thought it could have been handled really well in the Nolan-verse. But I was totally skeptical on hearing about Heath being cast as Joker and we know how that turned out. I trust Nolan to bring the goods regardless of subpar titles.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Ledger's Death

    by WiscoJoe

    Ledger died after his principal photography had been completed on TDK. Nolan still had not completed editing and was still doing some reshoots. If I remember correctly they had to use a body double to do some reshoots on Joker scenes. After Ledger's death there would have been plenty of time to retool the ending of TDK so that what would have been a cliffhanger with the Joker going to Arkham and Two-Face on the lose, was instead wrapped up in that last twenty minutes.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST

    So the Dark Knight is...

    by maverick68

    this incredibly strong, powerful, almost superhuman character and they want to cast some 90lb waif in PVC as the lead baddie?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST

    THANK GOD that it's not in 3D!!!

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Best. Decision. Ever!<p>By the way: AVATAR 2 and 3 have officially been announced:<p> http://www.ugo.com/movies/avatar-2-and-3-james-cameron-release-dates-announced<p>AVATAR 2 - Fucking your eyeballs in 2014! IT HAS BEGUN!!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Getting used to the title

    by Meadowe

    Kind of anticlimactic, but hopefully I'll get used to it or they change it to a better one.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST

    "Throw Batman From the Train"

    by Thrillhouse77

    That's the title I was hoping for. Ah well. <p> Maybe Nolan will take a page from Grant Morrison's upcoming end to his run on Batman and have Bruce create some sort of crime fighting syndicate, so that he, himself, can live a little more of his life as Bruce Wayne vs. always having to be Batman?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, noon CST

    I'd have even prefered return of the dark knight

    by Player_Two_has_entered_the_game

    to dark knight rises. Sure, I get the two face/batman double meaning, but it doesn't sound or feel right to Dark Knight. Batman Begins. Dark Knight. Dark knight rises? Naaaah. rubbish heh

  • Oct. 27, 2010, noon CST

    He's dead, Jim.

    by KentButabi

    New villan please!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:01 p.m. CST

    So, the Dark Knight Rises....When he sees Catwoman naked?

    by cookylamoo

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:02 p.m. CST

    by greensville

    Wouldn't 'The Rise of the Dark Knight' be better?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST

    The Dark Night...

    by Aquatarkusman

    ... Gets Very Busy. Very Busy Indeed.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Hopefully the baddie is King Tut.

    by hank henshaw

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST

    The reason the "Outlaw Batman" ending of TDK doesn't work.

    by cookylamoo

    Is that you can't believe the klutzes in the Police Department have a prayer of stopping him.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST

    TDK Rises not great but...

    by Sorbo1980

    ...it plays off the whole "the night is darkest before dawn" quote from TDK. If the (k)night rises, then its morning, and everything is alright in Gotham. My question is "Rises from what?" If Batman is viewed as the villian now, as implied by TDK's ending, what reason does he have to dress up anymore and fight crime? He might as well retire, so he might need a reason to don the cape and cowl one last time.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST

    They call it "Rises" for a reason folks...

    by brocknroll

    ...most everyone is acting like Chris Nolan and Warner Bros., used the word, "Rises" as some type of random thing. They aren't stupid guys. They named it "rises" for a reason. Since "The Dark Knight" falls, in the last one, Batman "rises" in the next one. There will be something in the plot that will explain how Batman, "Rises". Don't slam the title until Chris reveals the plot for the next movie. When the plot for the next movie is revealed, then you'll see why, they used "Rises". Think about it, what Batman villain that could possibly make him "rise". This is why Black Mask and Hugo Strange fits in.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Good Female Villians

    by WiscoJoe

    Miranda Richardson in The Crying Game. Kristanna Loken in T3. The cast of Kill Bill. Louise Fletcher in Cuckoo's Nest. Glen Close in fatal attraction. Faye Dunaway in Mommie Dearest. Charlize Theron in Monster. Every crime noir novel I've ever read. Besides, in the Nolanverse Catwoman won't be strictly a "villian" per se. She'll start out as the new hero of Gotham, hunting down outlaw Batman, then will team up with Batman by the end of the film to take on a larger evil. The character will be complex. Also, I want a Catwoman that can seriously kick Batman's ace. A woman that comes from the streets or from a life of oppression, who "rises" up to take on the white male oligarchy as represented by Bruce Wayne/Batman. Batman needs to have his privilege seriously challenged. There's a great scene at the beginning of TDK where a Batman impostor asks the real Batman what makes him so special and Batman replies "I'm not wearing hockey pads." The only way Batman can get away with being a vigilante is that he can afford to equip himself and can afford to shirk the law. Catwoman would be a great character to challenge Batman on his assumptions that only he has the right or ability to protect Gotham. By the end of the film Batman will need to learn to rely on other people and to give up some of his power and control to another defender of Gotham.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST

    A Dark and Stormy Knight

    by Johnno

    I'm also not digging the title. Should've been 'The Dark Knight Returns' or 'Dark Knight Rising' or just something totally different like 'Shadow of the Bat' or 'Knightfall' etc. But I suppose there'll be some thematic reason for it that's only known to the writers...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Who said Nolan will use a female villain?

    by brocknroll

    Just because Nolan is out for a female actress for a lead role doesn't mean he's looking for a female villain. What if Bruce Wayne finally has a love interest? Maybe Talia Al Ghul could used as a character for the next once since Ra Al Ghul was in "Begins".

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Every comment WiscoJoe makes is wildly misinformed

    by George Newman

    PacManatee, too. Nolan didnt change anything after Ledger died. <p> Don't be disappointed at the FAKE rumor that Cotillard turned down a role for a part that will NOT even be in the film. <p>And your analysis of the color-scheme progression from film to film (Brown->Blue->Black) leaves much to be desired. Black? Black is going to be the color filter for the third film? HEY EVERYBODY--BATMAN THREE IS GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF SHADOWS

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST

    I like the title, keeps it simple

    by kafka07

    and keeps it relevant to Nolanverse franchise.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Don't care who the villain is, really...

    by HapaPapa72

    As long as they BRING BACK THE GODDAMMNED BATCAVE!!! Sometimes I think Nolan is like the priest/movie censor in "Cinema Paradiso", ringing his bell anytime something gets too comic-y for his gritty realism. Maybe at the end of this trilogy we can tearfully watch all the cut out true comic footage...Robin...Mr.Freeze...hell, even a giant penny in the Batcave...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    in the weeks after Ledger died, Nolan said

    by George Newman

    that Heath had already completed all post-production work. So you don't remember correctly

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Catwoman

    by NightArrows

    " I want a Catwoman that can seriously kick Batman's ace" Exactly the reason she shouldn't be in the film. Because there is no way she SHOULD be able to beat his ass unless she gets super powers. Batman would dust her ass, and outside of fanboy fantasies that's the reality of the situation.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST

    FIRST "NOLAN FILMS" NOW IT WILL BE THE "DARK KNIGHT TRILOGY"

    by Meadowe

    Which I'm fine with, as long as Christian, Tom, Morgan, Michael and the rest are in a great film.....I personally feel that this film may or may not be as good or better than The Dark Knight, but will be better than Batman Begins.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:19 p.m. CST

    (continued)

    by George Newman

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:20 p.m. CST

    by George Newman

    Alfred's joke about cats and the batsuit was Not 'major foreshadowing' by Nolan about Catwoman being in the next film.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST

    nolan already said two-face was deader than fuck.

    by RedHorseVector

    i wish he was the villain though... that's the one thing that bothered me about the dark knight, the way they marginalized two-face.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    silly title

    by zooch

    the morning rises, the night sets.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:24 p.m. CST

    also, re: catwoman

    by RedHorseVector

    i doubt they'll find anyone who plays catwoman better than michelle pheiffer in batman returns.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST

    X-men 3, Spiderman 3, Batman Forever....

    by br1947

    Afraid, very afraid.<br><br>I'm kinda disappointed with the title, a little too "Dark Knight 2"-ish. Like someone high up the food chain demanded 'Dark Knight' be in the title. If so, that's a very bad sign that the studio wants to interfere.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST

    2face "brain damage" is a copout...

    by FleshMachine

    his change form good to evil was the biggest pile of contrived bullshit in that movie....everyhting in that films was well done EXCEPT the 2face stuff..it made no sense. How many previously decent people, like iraq (or anyone) war vets who've suffered massive facial trauma turn into child murderers? none, thats how many. Joker was great, and believable, 2 face was comic book silliness. Its the reason i feel DK is one of the most over rated movies. it's half a great film half a "huh?? as if!" film.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Batman

    by Robber_Button

    The Gay Blade.. <br></br> Can't wait til Nolan's done with it, maybe we can get some perspective back.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Morrison's Batman > Nolan's Batman

    by wilsonfisk89

    I'm sick of hearing about Nolan's precious 'realistic,' 'gritty' universe. I think the next film could benefit from some of Morrison's more fun, fantastic elements. Without Ledger's performance, TDK would have been a complete bore, instead of mostly a bore.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Agreed: IMAX > 3D, 3D adds nothing.

    by FleshMachine

    I've seen a bunch of these 3D films...even Avatar which was done well was not better because of it.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Lame title

    by jawsfan

    and it will no doubt be a disappointing movie. Count on it.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST

    or night falls

    by zooch

    The Bright Sun Rises

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST

    NOT A GOOD TITLE!!!!!

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    NOT GOOD AT ALL

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST

    3D dimishes the brightness of the picture

    by FleshMachine

    you notice that? without glasses you see the blurry screen is the proper brightness, but when you don the shades it gets darker...why don't they boost the picture to compensate??

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:29 p.m. CST

    ZOOEY DESCHANEL IS CATWOMAN!!!!!!!

    by wackybantha

    MAKE IT SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:29 p.m. CST

    I wish Katy Perry could act

    by the Green Gargantua

    Right? Than again the last two broads in these movies were not exactly stealing the show. http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/catwoman%20tits.jpg

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Why is it so important

    by brattyben

    to have a female lead? I'm not sexist, but, in most movies, mainly action and adventure, there always has to be a romance angle. I think Batman works best without it, and not having a relationship in the movie would drive the point home that Bruce's work truly thrives on his isolation from others. It makes no sense, unless it's Talia, which would be a smart choice, having her seek revenge for her father. She doesn't need to be a love interest but an antagonist.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Um...wasn't it Lucius Fox's joke about cats?

    by HapaPapa72

    Just sayin'.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST

    I hope it's even more gritty and realistic

    by zooch

    More epic and more about what is going on in Gotham City

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Re: George

    by WiscoJoe

    Hey George, I'm just an aintitcoolnews talkbacker super excited about the next Batman film and gushing with my perceptions/ideas. Don't get too bent out of shape. I think we all now that Nolan keeps things close to his chest and none of us will know for sure what will happen in DK3 until the opening credits roll. Nolan was half-way through the editing process when Ledger died. Goyer originally scripted two sequels which would both feature Joker and Two-Face as villains. Hans Zimmer almost rewrote the Joker's theme music after Ledger's death. Big Hollywood films (and it doesn't get any bigger than DK) often reshoot key scenes or even just brief shots up until the final cut is decided upon. It's clear from DK that Nolan intended that Joker and Two-Face would return for a third film, but scrapped the idea after Ledger's death made it impossible. So yes, the death of Ledger affected the story of the third film and most likely informed the decision to go in a new direction. As for the color scheme, I'm certain on it. Expect a lot of black in the next film, from costumes, to sets, to the opening bat symbol, to the posters, to, yes, plenty of shadows. The blue color scheme in DK didn't mean "we'll use a lot of water!" The use of the color blue was much more subtle, just as the use of browns was very subtle in Batman Begins. In Batman Begins you had a lot of dingy, brown buildings, dusty lighting, etc. In DK that was replaced with bluish, shimmering skyscrapers, a lot more natural light, etc. Expect the Gotham city of this next film to have a lot of cold, black structures, steel, and black masks (aka catwoman and black mask.) And sorry if my predictions aren't 100% accurate. Forgive me for not being Christopher Nolan or his assistant, but still having the audacity to share my thoughts on this highly anticipated film.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Mr. Reese = just a character name

    by Batguy

    You guys are still reading way too much into this. And to the poster that doesn't think Bane would work, he's essentially a muscleman on super steroids. That's more adaptable to the Nolan-verse than Ra's, which Nolan made work IMHO. And Cotillard turned down an unspecified role. There's no confirmation that it was Catwoman.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:32 p.m. CST

    THE DARK KNIGHT JOUSTS

    by Mullah Omar

    ...is only marginally shittier as a title than THE DARK KNIGHT RISES.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:36 p.m. CST

    It's funny how so many fans jumped at that as "major foreshadowi

    by HapaPapa72

    I just picture fish in a tank rushing to gobble up the fish food...the same fish probably think Mr.Reese=Mysteries. Oh. Wait. No Riddler. Nevermind.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Again, female lead WON'T BE a villain!

    by brocknroll

    Why does everyone keep thinking Nolan will use a female villain just because he's looking for a female lead? Rachel Dawes was killed in that explosion from "The Dark Knight". Bruce Wayne had plenty of love interests from the comics. Talia Al Ghul, Vicki Vale, etc. the list goes on.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Tom Hardy as The Penguin?

    by TurquoiseNapalm

    Not the obvious choice. But with The Riddler out, perhaps Penguin is the baddie? Have yet to see Bronson or The Take, but from what I've read, Hardy definitely has that edgy villain ability and the requisite British-ness. Admittedly would be a bit young but Nolan isnt exactly by-the-book with his interpretations.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Dent knew that Rachel was dead...

    by NightArrows

    right? SO that, coupled with head trauma and his already edgy demeanour could result in a transformation to a villain. Why in the fuck is that hard to believe?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Dark Knight Rises?

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    bad title people.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:41 p.m. CST

    iownyou...

    by NightArrows

    So which comic film would you heap praise upon then if TDK is so overrated?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Two-face takes over the organized crime racket...

    by HordePrime

    and its not revealed until the very end of the film, that whoever the villain is (Deadshot) is taking orders from Two-face - the new Falcone of Gotham. He ends up breaking out some of Arkham's most dangerous criminals to take down Batman - Mad Hatter, Bane, Black Mask, etc. to take Batman down. The public finds out Dent is behind it all and everything in TDK is undone - Batman's name is cleared but he realizes there's no end in sight for him.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Said "to take Batman down" twiceoops

    by HordePrime

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST

    "Dark Knight Rises" - take it easy, folks

    by iDrinkYourMexicanCoke

    there's along road ahead of this oen and anything can change.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Glad no riddler

    by nobodylistenstodestro

    I have a feeling he would be a diet joker of sorts. Hardy would be a perfect hush tho....

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Slams Evil!

    by kafka07

    Oh I forgot that's The Phantom's gig circa 1996.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:50 p.m. CST

    darthwaz1

    by elsewhere

    Since Nolan is after realism, Ras Al Ghul (Neeson) most likely died in the train wreck, however it is implied in BB that the name Ra's Al Ghul is merely a title. So yes, technically Ra's could make an appearance in DKR, though I highly doubt it will be Neeson in the role.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Notcher (female villains)

    by pilgrim64

    The hand that rocks the cradle. My best friend's wedding (julia Roberts was a witch in that movie) plus a few more that are mentioned

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Catwoman?

    by JamesT

    Catwoman is to the Dark Knight Rises what Catwoman is to Catwoman.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Dark Knight != Two Face !!!

    by raumohir

    Come on people, the Dark Knight doesn't reference Two Face. What Nolan said was that the last movie's title had as much to do with Two Face, who is called Gotham's WHITE KNIGHT. The movie is called "The Dark Knight" because the "White Knight" falls, and the Dark Knight wins, enveloping Gotham in darkness where the heroes have to stay underground. Harvey Dent is dead, get over it. Batman has been the Dark Knight for ages, and "The Dark Knight Rises" references him.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Seriously?

    by notcher

    Those are female villains that make you guys think Catwoman would be a good Batman villain? Wow, sucks to be you.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:56 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight's Dick Rises as the Night Flies

    by KilliK

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 12:57 p.m. CST

    FleshMachine Avatar did that

    by KilliK

    because Cameron knows his 3D shit.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1 p.m. CST

    Bruce needs Emmy Rossum

    by luke_lymon

    Emmy would be the ideal Cat Woman, Batgirl, whatever. Just get Emmy

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:01 p.m. CST

    TWO FACE WILL NOT RETURN

    by aintitfmt

    Batman assumed the role of "Dark Knight" at the end of the movie to immortalize Dent as the great white hope. raumohir is right- Dark Knight Rising references Batman, not the resurrection of two face. IMO, the title is weak sauce.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Bring back Joel Shumacher!

    by DirkD13"

    Kidding of course. Not over keen on the title but Nolan knows his shit.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Kite-Man it is, then...

    by Doctor_Strangepork

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:03 p.m. CST

    OF COURSE he'd put "The Dark Knight" in the title.

    by JackPumpkinhead

    Heavens forbid the morons wouldn't realize it was related to that previous one, eh? <p> <p> And hey, it's yet another "rise"! Too bad there's no famous film named "Rise", or somebody would be pitching a "Rise of Rise" now. <p> <p> How about "The Darker Knight", then? Or maybe good old "Dark Knight II: Dark Harder"?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Hugo Strange

    by fiester

    Either that or Ras is back and pissed off.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:07 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Returns

    by KilliK

    come on that is the perfect title.apparently DK by the end of the new sequel,will return to GC and regain the trust of the citizens and he will become again the protector of the city.Thus TDK Returns.The word Rises fits more the first movie since its all about Bat's origin,how he rised as GC's protector.is this so hard to understand?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST

    If it's Catwoman, is Annette Benning way too old now?

    by Rev. Slappy

    She was originally cast as Catwoman in Burton's Returns and had to drop out due to an injury or a pregnancy or something.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Talia! Talia! Talia!

    by Zardoz

    Talia is the perfect villain for the film: she can be both love interest AND villain, out for revenge against Batman for causing the death of her father, she falls in love with Bruce Wayne. Make it so!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:11 p.m. CST

    THE CAPED CRUSADER is the new title

    by Kcolraw

    it should be

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Bookworm, Mad Hatter, Egghead, King Tut!

    by Darthkrusty

    but will probably stick with a mainstream villain like penguin or catwoman. ;-)

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:14 p.m. CST

    ANN HATHAWAY AS THE RIDDLERESS!!!!!!!

    by alice133

    and john krasinski as robin!!!!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST

    WiscoJoe

    by The_Motorcycle_Boy

    "I have a feeling that the last twenty minutes of The Dark Knight was tacked on after Ledger's death and is probably a good summary of what the third film would have been had Ledger not died and the Joker returned." <p> There is no way the ending was added on post-Ledger. If it had been, then they wouldn't have killed Two Face off! We also would have heard about it by now. <p> I agree about Heath's death shadowing the potential of this film. It will likely never be as good as it would have with Ledger. Joker would have been in the fabric of the sequel even if he was off screen for the most part. Jonah Nolan said in interviews that Batman's weakness is that he won't kill Joker so it always comes back to haunt him. In hindsight you have to say killing off Two Face was a bit of a disaster because it meant we lost two major villains. Oh, and it would be silly to bring him back; his arc is done. What, they buried a bunch of bricks in Dent's coffin, did they? Some honest guard at Arkham is keeping him a secret?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Two-Face would have died from his burns

    by MapMan

    There's nothing supernatural in Nolan's Batman so Two-Face would have died eventually from causes related to his burns.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:21 p.m. CST

    There was NO NEED to kill off Two-Face

    by impossibledreamers

    Harvey Dent is a classic Batman character and he was only Two-Face Harvey near the end of the film - but they whack him anyway.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:23 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight and Robin...

    by MamboMan

    ...Rises

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Return of the Dark Knight

    by MamboMan

    The Gotham Empire Strikes Back

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Robin Rises

    by MamboMan

    "to the bat cave!!!!"

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Sheesh

    by ihatetalkbacks

    The names a bit week... I found the first weekness in its armour... This film will stink... I got the negativity in first... I win!!!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Tom Hardy as Lex Luthor?

    by Admonisher

    OK, I know this is outside the box ... but Luthor does make a great Bat-villain when used correctly (see the "No Man's Land" arc, for example); it could tie-in the upcoming, Nolan-produced Supes franchise without directly bringing the two leads together; and Luthor has the potential to fit thematically -- an exalted villain for a hero is in disgrace. Anyway ... I don't think it's likely, but I think it's at least a possibility.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Bad Title! Bad Title! Bad Title!

    by Marathoner

    Hey C. Nolan - Please come up with something better than TDKR, which is incredibly weak. Thanks

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises because superman has

    by UltraTron

    flown into low orbit with him and is dropping him on China. He uses supes for extreme away missions now instead of a cargo plane

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Personally I think...

    by ihatetalkbacks

    that the female casting call is for a female Robin a la Graphic Novel. Wayne Manor has been set up for this (Alfred mentions it pointedly) this may mean a major loaction - it could mean Alfred dies too and this would mean that Bruce is totally alone. A teenage/20 some thing female vigilante ( only a few left after the Batmen get killed by joker) is taken under Bruces wing as he sees some thing of himself in her - orphan morality bravery, but also innosence and an open heart. She will not be a love interest but a redenptive force none the less. And a legacy if this is the closer to the franchise. Could also contast with the destructive Catwoman or Poison Ivy if she is a villain.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST

    What would have been great at the end of Dark Knight

    by iDrinkYourMexicanCoke

    would have been to have Harvey get the acid to the face later at the end and die (the same way) very shortly afterward, ending the movie only showing us the "origin" of two-Face without us knowing until he was "resurrected" in the sequel that Harvey has become "Two-Face. If he is brought back now, it's like "yeah, we know. We saw your character last time and know what you're about."

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:35 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rising

    by Robber_Button

    is why Robin's parents took out the injunction.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Why the 3rd Part always suck balls ?

    by Se7en

    ROTJ, Matrix 3, Back to the Future 3, Superman 3, Batman Forever, and nowww.... Dark Knight Riiiiisee of the Machinezzz (Arnold accent)

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Hugo Strange

    by drewlicious

    I've heard that name being tossed back and forth on the internet. Pretty obscure but a pretty cool character actually. Aside from the obvious choices that have apparently been ruled out it's almost nothing but obscure characters. Black Mask. Killer Croc. Bane. Hush. Casual fans have never heard of them. Then again if the story is good enough the audience will be there for just about anything.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Love Nolan, but the title sucks

    by Kremzeek

    So tired of the "Rise" titles. I thought Nolan and Co. were a lot more creative than that. It doesn't change my opinion of his work, nor will this stop me from being there opening night, but this is a really, really uncreative, disappointing title.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Concerned about Nolan's Comments on Ending Batman

    by Judge Briggs

    ...after the third installment... he said that unlike the comics, Batman's journey ends. WTF!? I mean, sure, end your tenure as the father of the series, but don't knee cap future installments in your universe, Nolan!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST

    JdgBriggs,

    by Kremzeek

    That's exactly what he was saying: His (Nolan's) story comes to an end. Not sure if you read the actual interview or just heard it somewhere, but the interview is pretty clear that he means only his story and not Batman as a whole. No need to panic.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Why doesn't Nolan create a NEW villain?

    by locke815

    Where is it written that they must endlessly recycle the stupid villains concocted in the 1960s?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight : Hassel Unleashed

    by HasselFree

    HASSEL UNLEASHED

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    i'm ok if this version of Batman's journey ends

    by smudgewhat

    can't see bale doing a 4th under any circumstances so it will essentially be a reboot either way. it will cool if the story had total closure. i don't even mind if they kill him.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Ellen Page will be Catwomen folks, deal with it.

    by AzulTool

    She may not be some "obvious stunner", but that's not what Nolan's Batsy universe is about. Plus, he's worked with her before. I'm calling it!...P.S. She does have a nice ass.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST

    sorry, CatWOMAN...

    by AzulTool

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:01 p.m. CST

    These fucking "Rise" Movie titles are as annoying as..

    by Stalkeye

    ..the 3D trend. Can't wait for Cameron to name Avatar 2:Rise of the Navi.Return of the Dark Knight seems to be the only logical titles for the upcoming sequel IMO.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Ellen Page?!?

    by HapaPapa72

    I dunno...i think I'd rather see Marlon Wayans as Robin than Ellen Page as Catwoman. And I agree with locke815...can't the Mastermind behind Inception come up with his own villain?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST

    I only hope that Nolan will get a very beautiful and a very

    by KilliK

    talented actress to play Catwoman,because 2 batman later and he has fucked completely the female/love interest department of his flicks.jesus.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST

    nolan screwed up the rachel dawes

    by emeraldboy

    character arc twice. he will do it again to the female character. nolan brought dawes back just to kill her off. was ridiculous.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Thank God NO 3D!!!!!

    by CeejayNightwing

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST

    locke815 i agree that Nolan should come up with his own

    by KilliK

    villains for part3,but on the other hand he has to use some popular comic villain in order to please the fans.the good thing is that he tries to reinvent them instead of recycling them,thus he is doing a good job,well until now.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:07 p.m. CST

    I hope that there's a neon scene!

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    The other movies may have sucked, but those scenes really made the movie worth going to. Oh, and if someone could yell "Cowabunga" too, that would really work.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:08 p.m. CST

    2 THINGS I DIDN'T LIKE ABOUT 'THE DARK KNIGHT' ...

    by feebster69

    1. The dystopic, decayed Gotham City (with cables hanging everywhere and the sky-tram rail network) in Batman Begins was replaced by a gleaming modern city in the sequel. THIS WAS NEVER EXPLAINED. 2. 'Scarecrow' was written-off at the beginning of The Dark Knight within the first few minutes - a pretty poor story-arc in my opinion, seeing as he was a main character in the first film. I'm not 100% convinced by Nolan, and I don't feel the new film will be up to much.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:08 p.m. CST

    and he screwed up lucious fox too.

    by emeraldboy

    he helped wayne become batman in the first film and then...the second film. what happened.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST

    GOOD POINT, EMERALDBOY ...

    by feebster69

    ... CONTINUITY NOT REALLY NOLAN'S THING, IS IT?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Uhhh, Chris.....Night doesn't Rise!!!!

    by cookylamoo

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:12 p.m. CST

    "The" UGH

    by joelcrary

    I hate movies with the word "the" in the title. Every other movie has the word "the" in the title. He already put the word "the" in the title of the second movie. This is going to be bullshit from beginning to end. Thanks a lot, Nolan, for completely destroying the perfect franchise. I'm on a horse.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:12 p.m. CST

    There was no funeral for Harvey in Dark Knight

    by Tall_Boy66

    That you saw on screen. All you saw was Gordon talking in front of a giant painting and No Fucking Coffin. This has been driving me nuts since the summer of 2008 when people are all like, "But we saw a funeral! We saw a coffin!" NO YOU FUCKING DIDN'T PAY MORE ATTENTION!!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:13 p.m. CST

    nolan was under huge pressure..

    by emeraldboy

    and it paid off. but bale screwed up his career with terminator salvation. after this nolan needs to get out of gotham. he is heading to metropolis.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Nolan should have ended Dark Knight with the Joker...

    by ricarleite2

    ... escaping prison. Not as a first option, but as an option when Ledger died. Then he could have kept all the footage of Joker exploding the hospital and the whole thing afterwards, and add scenes exploring MORE of Two Face's crimes. Get rid of the Joker on the second act and have Two Face survive the face-off with Gordon. Film new stuff for the ending and THEN you could kill Two Face. There, you have a hell of a movie with a consistent villain (Two Face), have more Joker material for an audience eager for more, and conclude this story ark.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Cables?

    by NightArrows

    Seriously, you're going to complain because they didn't explain the lack of cables in TDK??? Did you see how big Gotham was in the scene when Bruce was flying back in BB? It's fucking massive, so maybe, just maybe, there are sections of Gotham that are ramshackle, new, deco, post modern, you know, like a real city? A real city where if you venture out can feel like a completely different entity depending on what section you're in?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Gotham in tdk

    by Larry Sellers

    Half the city shots were during the day and NONE of it was set in the Narrows. Different side of town, it was. Not that inconsistent if your paying attention.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST

    A Great Movie tie in idea !!!!

    by Paratrooper_Activity

    Maybe the new villian could be the Hamburgalar and they could tie it into a big McDonalds viral campaign featuring rotting burgers and dead hecnmen .... hmmmm...maybe I should have stayed on my meds today.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Marlon Wayans vice versa

    by kafka07

    I'd rather see Marlon Wayans as Catwoman and Ellen Page as Robin.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:20 p.m. CST

    AHH, I KNEW THAT'D GET YOUR ATTENTION. REEL 'EM IN.

    by feebster69

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Attack of the Clones

    by A G

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Nolan Should go Ape-Shit Crazy for the last Batman

    by mistergreen

    Might as well go out with a bang!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Batman: Dark Victory

    by Saracen1

    /thread

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    For those whining about the new title

    by kafka07

    remember we once had another third Batman movie from the Burton/Schumacher series called BATMAN FOREVER, the gayest bat title in the universe, and Batman had NIPPLES. NIPPLES DAMMIT!! AND THERE WAS A BAT BUTT TOO!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Interesting Stuff,

    by donchild

    No Riddler? This surprises me but its Nolan bucking the trend again and catching us all of guard. For the past two years everybody (myself included)have been predicting The Riddler's inclusion in this movie and being a character who specialises in elaborate mind games he seemed the perfect Bat villain for Nolan to tackle but now it officially ain't so! Even though I'm a bit disappointed to now know that he won't be in the movie I'm at the same time pumped with curiousity about who the baddie will now be! With Tom Hardy cast in an unspecified role that I assumed would be The Riddler I'm now gonna make a new assumption that it could well be Deadshot or some other character tasked with bringing down Batman (maybe even a law official). This announcement just reminds me how near impossible it is to second guess Nolan's choices, don't remember seeing anybody guess that title either 'The Dark Knight Rises' indeed!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Also this is a better title than Batman Begins

    by Tall_Boy66

    Is Batman Begins even correct grammatically speaking? Shouldn't it be "Batman's beginning"?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:29 p.m. CST

    I just realized...

    by Crusty_Juggler

    Cobra made a good point about the domain name being available. I'll bet it was all misinformation. I wouldn't worry to much about that title.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Tall boy

    by Larry Sellers

    I immediately thought of how disappointed I was in batman begins as a title when I heard this. But yes. "Batman is Beginning" would be grammatically correct.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Title doesn't gab your attention.

    by Nautilus_nrm1

    Not to keen on the title, although I'm all in for the return of Two-Face. Still wondering if they will bring back the League of Shadows led by Talia. Hopefully they'll stay away from Catwoman - unless she written and acted pitch-perfect, they shouldn't bother with the her.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:31 p.m. CST

    FUCKING RISING!!!

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    WHY DOES EVERY THIRD FUCKING SEQUEL/PREQUEL HAVE TO HAVE "RISE" OR "RISING" IN THE TITLE?!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Batman Resurrection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    thats the title. not fucking rising

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Seriously, why not Dark Knight II

    by Nautilus_nrm1

    or The Dark Knight, part 2. Especially if they continue right after the end of the last movie. Since Two-Face is returning, call it Knights of Gotham. Gotham's Knights?!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Dark Knight Resurrection!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Dark night rises= lazarus pit=Ra's and Talia

    by joker40

    I know alot have mentioned it..but its clearly the way to go for A TRILOGY PIECE...and yes you can still have Harvey..and as said long before..Phillip seymor hoffman as the penguin..all are very underground characters and if you bring back Iam neeson (by lazarus pitt) and talia (daughter of the demon) for me, dont kill me folks..Talia=anjolina jolie would be perfect...Thats what I see..and THANK GOD..NO 3D..WTG nolan..thank you....

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST

    As a title,

    by Rodie

    I actually prefer the title Batman Begins...That movie was about the concept, the myth, the purpose of "The Batman" starting. Made perfect sense to me, and it sounds catchy when spoken. "The Dark Knight Rises" feels uninspired to me (just tacking on a verb to TDK) and doesn't really have a "ring" to it. I would prefer it it was titled "The Caped Crusader." Something simple, classic and new that fits with the theme.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST

    the title is made for international markets

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    so people wont think its another reboot. just in case.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST

    IMAX= win

    by Titus05

    hope he can shoot the entire film in IMAX like he originally talked about

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST

    It's Awesome How You All Know Better

    by Crow3711

    And on top of knowing better than Nolan, you think your opinions and feelings on this actually matter. Like your disapproval of anything matters or makes a difference. It's hysterical. The movie made will have nothing to do with you. It'll come out. It'll be what it is. You'll like it or you won't. Why do you think your opinion matters? The movie is still the movie. It makes no sense. What does your self righteous bitching and moaning do except affect YOUR enjoyment of a movie you have nothing to do with you? Your ideas on how the dark knight could have been better will never, ever change the movie that came out, so why even express it? I'm honestly, really honestly, without trying to be a dick, honestly asking one of you to answer. What's the point of all this conversation? Why do you say things that don't matter?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Batman Defiance

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST

    I wish people would stop saying....

    by awesomebri

    I wish people would stop saying Talia Al Ghul for Catwoman... they are seperate characters! its like saying Clark Kent for Batman.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Batman Revolution!!!!!

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    yeah thats campy awesome!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:49 p.m. CST

    The domain name was just registered

    by ricarleite2

    Registrant: Smith, David<p> ATTN THEDARKKNIGHTRISES.COM<p> care of Network Solutions<p> PO Box 459<p> Drums, PA. US 18222<p> Record created on 26-Oct-2010.<p> <p><p> Damn!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Batman Strikes Back!

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Two-Face as a supporting character

    by buckarez

    I would love to see Two-Face as a supporting character, like Hannibal Lecter in "Silence of the Lambs." A new enemy threatens Gotham City, perhaps someone that Harvey Dent had previously dealt with, and Batman has to go to Arkham Asylum to consult with Two-Face for information. So the main villain in the movie could be Black Mask, Hush, or whoever, and Two-Face is behind the scenes helping (and manipulating) Batman and the GPD. As for the title, "Shadow of the Bat", "Gotham Knight", or just "Batman" work better for me.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Crow3711

    by Rodie

    Just speaking for myself, I enjoy discussing movies, and part of critiquing a film or any piece of art is sharing what you liked and didn't like about it, what you would have changed or liked to have seen done differently by the artist. Sure some fans take things way too far or maybe even spend too much time thinking about certain movies, but if no one discusses art when it is completed and put on display, then it is the ART that "doesn't matter" as you put it, and that would be the real shame.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Sucks

    by KilliK

    oops.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:53 p.m. CST

    holy shit I wish I bought the domain before!!!

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    and sold it for millions!!!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:55 p.m. CST

    So what's everyone's guess exactly WHEN we'll know the villain?

    by Wolfman Nards

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Should've used "The Caped Crusader"

    by wellk

    Sounds a whole lot better.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Dusk.

    by SnootyBoots

    Means the same thing. And it's shorter.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Dusk.

    by SnootyBoots

    Means the same thing. And it's shorter.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3 p.m. CST

    the 'rises' in the title is actually brilliant

    by Rickey Henderson

    It seems to reference the "why do we fall?" speech that alfred gives inthe first movie.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Don't really care for or about the title

    by Kammich

    The title is the least important part of the equation to me, so the semi uninspired choice of "Dark Knight Rises" doesn't miff me at all. Instead, I offer kudos to Warner Bros for bucking the 3D trend and listening to their director. Its obvious that they covet Nolan's opinion, and a truly collaborative relationship can only lead to great things for us, the fans. I don't really care about the subtraction of Riddler as a villain candidate, either... I just want Nolan to cohesively wrap up the trilogy, and the villain should be nothing more than a catalyst for that notion(whereas I feel Ledger's Joker and Eckhart's arc as Dent were the stars of the last film).

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Batman and the Temple of Doom

    by SkitZo

    Do it!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Batman Rises????

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:10 p.m. CST

    The Dark Penis Rises?

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:10 p.m. CST

    rickey wonders...

    by Rickey Henderson

    When they make the porn version of this movie starring lex steele, will they even need to change the name?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:13 p.m. CST

    why is there porn versions? why doesnt WB sue?

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:15 p.m. CST

    I would think it's called The Dark Knight Rises

    by kidicarus

    because Nolan is very focused on making this about the early days of Batman, not jumping huge gulfs in time toward the end of his career. So he in a sense, is 'rising' to become the superhero we all know and love. All 3 films are prequels of Batman hitting his stride.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:16 p.m. CST

    a 3D batman would have been awesome but apparently

    by KilliK

    Nolan hasnt played the 3d version of Arkham Asylum to see why it is a mistake for not making TDKR in 3D.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:19 p.m. CST

    without the Joker, Batman is alittle empty

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    i cant see a future without the Joker's Return, but who will do that? i know Nolan doesnt.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    KilliK---- i hope you are joking

    by DioxholsterOperationsOutpost

    embrace the stargate

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    TDKR: THE VIAGRA EDITION

    by KilliK

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:29 p.m. CST

    RISING CRUST BATMAN?

    by Astronut

    With a DiGiorno promotional tie-in?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Realism in Nolans Batman

    by Nuck81

    I am still confused how it was realistic to have a guy walk around with half his face burnt off, speaking clearly, and no fear of infection. Yet a short, fat gangster, that likes to wear a tuxedo and call himself "The Penguin" is not real enough for to be considered a villian.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    But it's just A Title, Thats Not The Art

    by Crow3711

    Saying, this title sucks, blahblahblahblah, this title would work better, objectively, doesn't natter. The dark knight could have been called Gotham on Fire, and it would still be the same movie. Terrible title, sure, but why does that matter to anyone? This is a discussion of titles, for the most part, and everyone still has an opinion, and it won't change anything. That's not discussing art. That's being a blowhard. The film is still the film. Discuss the film, sure. I love that as much as anyone else. But this thread is full of people either complaining about the title, or saying what they would have changed about TDK. Those are useless conversations. "well I think Nolan should have had the joker escape from prison at the end, and that could have led to this, and this to that, and on and on". That's not discussing film, art, or otherwise. That's masturbation. It's drivel. These are Nolans films. Tell me how it made you feel, what you got from it, what it meant to you. Don't tell me what would have made you like it more. It doesn't natter. That will never be the movie. The art doesn't change. So, as I said, why does everyone have such an opinion on things that, I maintain, don't matter, and never will. Call the next batman movie Marmaduke for all I care. It might not ve what I would have chosen. It might not have thematic resonance or even make sense. But the movie is still the movie. It'll either be good or bad, and the title has literally zero to do with it. So why does everyone get so self righteous about it? Maybe you're right, maybe I don't understand people, but I do think most people spend their time discussing things that are pointless and have no bearing on anything. It's called The Dark Knight Rises. That has nothing to do with whether the art will ve any good. That's like saying if we went back in time and changed the name of The Mona Lisa to The Susan that it would change the painting somehow. It wouldnt.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Batman: Rise of the Fanboy fantasy writing

    by shutupfanboy

    Talia as Catwoman? Dude, better be joking. That is the most retarded thing I heard today. Someone need to stuff on the weed.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    James Franco....

    by DannyDreams

    ... as the Joker. Done.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Basically, What Im Saying Is...

    by Crow3711

    ITS NOT ABOUT YOU. It just seems very selfish to discuss "the art" in this way. It's not about you or what you would do. It's about how you felt. But the creation of the film isn't about you.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Gotta be Harley Quinn

    by Mariusz

    Rose Byrne would be great as Harley Quinn. 'Nuff said.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Crow3711

    by joelcrary

    I definitely agree with you in spirit, but this is the Internet. Self-righteousness comes with the territory. Give a kid an account and a keyboard and for one split second he has the power to call Da Vinci a hack and pass it off as a legitimate opinion. As much as I want to burn forums to the ground sometimes, you really have to take them for what they are or they'll drive you nuts.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST

    @ shutupfanboy

    by awesomebri

    That's what I said! whats wrong with these people!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST

    The villain should be...

    by BarryConvex

    ...an existing villain that hasn't appeared in any of the films. As much as I'd like to see Nolan's take on the Riddler or Aaron Eckhart return as Two-Face, I'd like to see a lesser known villain get the spotlight. Contrary to popular belief, Batman has more than just four good villains. Deadshot, Black Mask, Talia al Ghul, and Hugo Strange are perfect examples of villains that would work in Nolan's world of Batman. I'm just tired of seeing the same villains rehashed over and over.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Cool title, but now Batman Begins seems off

    by MattmanReturns

    The Nolan series should have had "Dark Knight" in all the titles.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    TDKR: WHERE BATS DARE

    by KilliK

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST

    I'm breaking my AICN embargo to say

    by Continentalop

    The villains will be Catwoman and The Penguin, and maybe guys like Deadshot and Killer Croc as Bond like henchmen. <p> Catwoman will NOT be a physical challenge to Batman because she never was meant to be. She's like a Bond girl, someone on the wrong side who has a good heart and the hero feels for. She challenges Batman's sense of conviction and ideas what's right & wrong (think Irene Addler in the Sherlock Holmes). <p> The Penguin will be the one from the Golden Age of comics, not the modern or even 60s version. I've noticed Nolan likes Golden Age villains (excluding Ra's who I think was Goyer's influence) and also noticed he understand the core elements that originally made them great. It will be the Penguin and he'll be a grey eminence. <p> That's my prediction. I also predict Dick Grayson, but not Robin, will appear.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    That Would Be Very Selfish of Me Faulkner

    by Crow3711

    Which is the opposite of what I want. In fact, I don't want anything. Like Crary says, it's the nature of people, the Internet, and these tbs, and I get that. Sometimes the talkbacks are my favorite place on the Internet. Sometimes, when it's a subject like this, it is maddening, because a title doesn't matter, but because it's about Nolans batverse, everyone has such a forceful opinion on every single detail and story item. Look at how many people KNEW the riddler would be the villain, just fuxking knew it, and are now completely wrong. Why did they think the riddler would be in it? Because they think it's about them and what they want. And now that it is isn't true, they get indignant about it. "well I'M surprised Nolan didn't do what I expected". That's self-important crap. "Well it's not what I wouldve called it, blahblahblahblah is a better title". Who gives a fuck? <p> look, I'm the biggest lost fan I know of. I was all over those talkbacks. As preposterously frustrating as they could be, it was still, often, people really getting together to discuss the show, discuss theories, talk about how they felt, what was great and what wasn't. This is not that. This is fanboy stuff at it's worst. It just doesn't make sense to me. Like I said, it's not about me as much as it's not about any of you. It's one thing to discuss the film. But we have NO details on the film. There is nothing to discuss. This is the title. And it causes so much strange conversation of people taking it so personally. And that's weird to me.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Only a title

    by christpunchers2007

    but still sounds a bit off.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Brain Drain...That is Conpletely Not True

    by Crow3711

    They refer to him as "the batman" so many times in dark knight I have to insist you never even saw it. Alfred also refers to him as batman, and what batman stands for, means, and the role he can play in the loves of the people of Gotham. You are just entirely wrong. They call him batman many times, through various characters. Off the top of my head I know Alfred, joker, dent, and Moroni all said batman in the last film

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:58 p.m. CST

    BrainDrain

    by MattmanReturns

    "See, this is how crazy BATMAN's made Gotham! If you want order in Gotham, BATMAN must take off his mask and turn himself in." - Joker, 'Dark Knight'

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Those letters are Hilarious Faulkner!

    by Crow3711

    That's exactly what was I saying to! You didn't miss my point AT ALL! kudos

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4 p.m. CST

    "Well maybe BATMAN will save you"

    by MattmanReturns

    -Gordon, 'The Dark Knight'

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:01 p.m. CST

    "Assuming BATMAN left anyone to buy from."

    by MattmanReturns

    -Scarecrow

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST

    DKR

    by christpunchers2007

    I really want to see Nolan challenging himself to make a future version of Batman like the comic, many decades after TDK.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:02 p.m. CST

    "We have to fix real problem: Batman."

    by MattmanReturns

    -The Chechen

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Here's My Letter To William Faulkner

    by Crow3711

    Youre a child. Have fun

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:03 p.m. CST

    "I am the BATMAN"

    by MattmanReturns

    -Dent

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Joelcrary..

    by ClayG

    Good observation, except for the implication that everyone posting here is a kid. Not the case. Personally, I turned 18 back in 1989. I doubt I'm alone, either.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:06 p.m. CST

    The title

    by christpunchers2007

    By the looks of it... I can already see that Nolan is not totally comfortable about this 3rd movie. The title is so prosaic, so squeezed and forced, that it's as if he's running out of juice. I hope that's not really the case.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:06 p.m. CST

    TDKR: SIZE DOES MATTER

    by KilliK

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Emily Blunt for Catwoman!

    by Thanos0145

    Catwoman is an antiheroine now, not a villain.<p>So no Riddler and I still think Tom Hardy is playing Roman Sionis/Black Mask. The question is, what great will befall Gotham City which only Batman can save them from?<p>Good news about Batman 3 not being filmed in 3D. With Dark Knight making over a billion dollars and Inception making over eight hundred million dollars, WB respected Chris Nolan's wishes not to film Batman3 in 3D.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:07 p.m. CST

    My vote goes to the Black Mask

    by rbatty024

    He's often connected to organized crime, which works with the world Nolan has created. They could change his origin, but if the filmmakers wanted to they could also play up his connection to the Wayne family. There's a lot of interesting places to go with Black Mask. He has also never been previously seen in a live action Batman film, which is a plus in my book.

  • I teach English--yes, it's correct grammar. Would you say "Joe runs down the street" is incorrect? "Joe runs" is the same grammatical construction as "Batman Begins." It doesn't somehow become grammatically incorrect when it's a superhero performing the action.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    make two face a phantom of the opera like villain..

    by emeraldboy

    he uses the basement of arkham is lair. skulking around in the shadows manipulating the mayhem in the way that phamtom tries to control christime.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    *what great threat will befall Gotham City..

    by Thanos0145

    in which only Batman can save them from? (Damn no edit button!)

  • Yes, even an English teacher can make a typo.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Mattman Returns NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

    by odo19

    Some WB exec is going to read that and retitle BB The Dark Knight: Batman Begins. Just wait and see.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:16 p.m. CST

    BATMAN: HUNTER/HUNTED is a much better title

    by Monkey_King

    especially if you pit Bruce against Deathstroke and ManBat. That would own everyones asses worldwide.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Gravy

    by christpunchers2007

    Very insightful. I, too, believe that the 3rd film wouldn't necessarily suck if it had some 3D sequences. And yes, why not shoot the whole thing in IMAX? It'll look amazing and if this will take some technical genius to film then why not Nolan? Unless, as you've said, he simply cannot figure it out before he's not daring enough to get the job done.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Awful title

    by MandrakeRoot

    The apologists here are hilarious. Stop trying to justify what is a truly awful title. It's just very lazy, unappealing, and uninspired. Naming the second film The Dark Knight was just a fantastic idea, and from the title alone you knew the film was going to be something special. Now all they could think of for the second sequel was to tack on a word to the end of TDK? So lame. It's hilarious hearing the Nolan sheep trying to explain it like it's a stroke of genius. "Well at the end of TDK he fell, so now he must rise...BRILLIANT!!" Give me a fucking break...laughably bad title. The movie will be solid I'm sure, but they REALLY need to change that.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:18 p.m. CST

    of course its small...

    by presidentevil

    its a bat dick.....classic hustler cartoon

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:19 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Triumphant

    by KilliK

    or TDK Triumphs would have been better titles imho.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Eckhart said last year in an interview

    by Rectal Blowout

    that he signed on for two films. So I don't know what the big fucking mystery is.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:20 p.m. CST

    @MandrakeRoot

    by Monkey_King

    To think the Brits could come up with a more inspired title boggles the mind.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Catwoman = Talia Al Ghul

    by Rebel Scumb

    I've been suggesting this since TDK came out a few years ago and I'm glad to see a lot of people thinking the same way. She would have all of the same training as batman so would be an even match for him. I'm still voting for Eva Green! Just because I would watch her read the phone book.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:22 p.m. CST

    I'm sure WB just wanted to call it....

    by odo19

    The Dark Knight 2, so I guess this isn't as shitty as it could have been. Batman Rises would be better if they absolutely must keep the rise.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:23 p.m. CST

    I am betting...

    by WeylandYutani

    the new baddie for TDKR will be Egghead! <P> http://tinyurl.com/28ru38o <P> For sure!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Why not Penguin or Croc?

    by Jared Crowe

    I mean think about it.....The Penguin was a cartoony character before, but different writers wrote him as an underground mob boss who wore tuxedo's, thus earning him the name. He was a very powerful mob boss at one time. Croc was a mobster who wanted to take the Gotham underground for his own, so he started knocking off mob bosses to gain control. He was a very large man with a skin condition and everyone gave him the name of Killer Croc. With those two alone, Nolan could turn those two in to great villains. It isn't that hard. Hell, Nolan could put Howard the Duck in the movie and still make it amazing. I don't know why all the fuss.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Odo19 you're probably right

    by MattmanReturns

    Kinda like that "Chronicles of Riddick: Pitch Black" and "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark" nonsense.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Ledger

    by MandrakeRoot

    And I hate to say it, but Ledgers Joker is really what made TDK memorable for most people. I was very underwhelmed with Batman Begins, and while I do think TDK is one of the most overrated movies of all time, Ledgers Joker and his maniacal schemes made it an engaging, entertaining film. Without Ledger the film would have lost much of it's praise, and for most of the public he was the reason to see it. Let's face it, Batman Begins didn't clean up like that. Problem is, I really can't see how Batman 3 could ever live up to the second one. Unless Nolan pulls some serious magic out of his sleeve, almost any villain will seem like a huge step back. Frankly I think Nolan just needs to focus on giving the finale some heart, and some genuine emotional weight - the primary thing his films lack. Not once in TDK do we actually SEE that Bruce and Rachel are in love...were told it, so we accept it. Hopefully Nolan can remedy that and actually create some believable relationships.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:36 p.m. CST

    MandrakeRoot welcome to teh club

    by KilliK

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Oh please...

    by cenobiteme

    You could call this movie Alfred's Lost Pudding Pop and everyone ranting about the title would go see it because A. It's a Batman movie and B. Christopher Nolan is directing. Why is everyone bagging on the Riddler? He's a classic rogue which is what is needed for these films to justify their rather excessive budgets from a marketing standpoint.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Oh and regarding 3D

    by MandrakeRoot

    I can't believe how dumb some of you are. You do know that when a movie gets released in 3D, you also have the option of watching it in 2D, right? If you hate 3D, don't see it in 3D, it's as simple as that. You cheer as if it's some sort of victory, like morons. 3D is just another viewing option, so if you don't want to watch it that way, don't. <p> The sad thing I can only imagine if Nolan knew what he was doing and applied 3D to his story as a way to create atmosphere and depth, it could be a truly amazing experience. Frankly, I think he knows his MTV quick-cut action scenes would look like shit and be truly exposed for how bad they really are. I guess if I were him I wouldn't want to draw attention that either.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST

    I wouldn't put too much faith in that title

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    the web domain isn't even locked down, meaning that anyone can purchase it. WB plans this stuff months ahead of announcment, so that they can reveal the website

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Mad Hatter,

    by HornOrSilk

    Puts Batman in dream world. The Dark Knight has to.. rise.... that is, of course, awake before something in the dream world kills him. <br><br>Mat Hatter might even have an actor, known as Clayface, be the Freddy Kreuger of Batman's dreams.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Terrible title, Nolan.

    by themanwhojaped

    The Dark Knight Rises? Really? Shadow of the Bat would have been an infinitely cooler title. Regardless, I have absolute faith that Nolan can deliver the goods.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:43 p.m. CST

    MandrakeRoot, 3D

    by MattmanReturns

    My problem with 3D is the directors shoot the film differently to accommodate it. For someone who appreciates good cinematography, this is annoying. I'd rather have a good looking, well framed film than a 3D one. It's possible to avoid this (Avatar actually works as a 2D film), but it seems very difficult for most directors. I'd rather Nolan focus on other things.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST

    No villain

    by SteveasaurusRex

    There's not going to be a new villain. Sorry. This movie is going to be about the GCPD hunting down Batman. Tom Hardy is going to be the new DA or something like that. He's going to be after Batman, as will the mob. At the same time the DA has to go after the mob, and Batman has to go after the mob too. But the mob is going to want to take down the new DA, and Batman's going to have to show the people what a shitty DA Tom Hardy is. SEE ITS GOT LOTS OF LAYERS UPON LAYERS!! CHRISTOPHER NOLAN LOVES LAYERS!! BATCEPTION!!! EMPTY SCARY DREAM SPACE!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:47 p.m. CST

    BrainDrain... you really need to watch TDK again

    by MattmanReturns

    I think about 25 minutes of Dark Knight was Imax, and it was spread throughout the film. You can tell on the DVD/Blu-Ray which scenes are imax because it switches the aspect ratio.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Geek tears

    by FastEddie8139

    Here it goes: "OH GOD DAMNIT TEH TITLE SUCKS! NOLAN SUCKS!!! HE'S RAPING MY CHILDHOOD!!!!" Every single detail that emerges about this film from now until it opens will be met exactly the same way.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:47 p.m. CST

    There are tons of way better and cooler titles

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    Shadow of the bat, Gotham Knight, The bat in the hat, Batvatar, Meet joe bat, Win a bat with todd hamilton

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    I hope to god Two face doesnt come back

    by lookylookymoontard

    His motives after the face burn didnt make fuck all sense,i liked him as Dent but it went to shit once he turned.The scene while he lays in hospital as his fiance's killer talks to him makes me cringe,fuck Two face,new villan please

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    @redbull_werewolf

    by asojax

    don't forget "American Bat, 3:10 to bat, rescue bat, the new bat, reign of bat, empire of the bat, public bat, howl's moving bat, harsh bats" anyone of those titles would work too. Or my personal favorite "dances with bats"

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:54 p.m. CST

    The new baddie has to be...

    by Sorbo1980

    ...outside of the mob. The first two films were all about the Gotham mobs. Now that TDK ended the biggest mob influences, a new villian needs to come in from outside of Gotham. Tying it back to BB, it's got to be the League of Shadows (Talia or Ra's) coming to finish off Gotham what was started in the first film. Nolan isn't necessarily gritty realism. Christ, BB featured ninjas, fear gas, and Katie Holmes. TDK introduced the idea that all the mobs work together and pool their money, and that's all it takes to stop them. What's "real" about any of those things? Nolan is all about creating rules for his films, then pushing his story and images as close to those rules without breaking them. Inception is only "gritty realism," because Nolan set up his dream rules at the beginning. BB and TDK tells you why certain gadgets will or won't work (Morgan Freeman as Q?). He takes the time to explain WHY thinks work and happen, rather than assuming the audience can figure it out.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Two Face

    by christpunchers2007

    was a very boring, hammy character the way Nolan made him. Boring delivery, boring story, boring everything. Ackhart was the worst out of the entire cast IMO. When he suffered, I was happy that he did, I don't like his "goody two shoe" Harvey Dent one bit. A good DA? Sure. But I never got the hint that this was a "special" somebody with guts, and threatening some retard with a gun wasn't that amazing either.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    "Rises" from the dead... duh.

    by grimmbot

    "but but but Two Face is dead. Nolan and Two Face said he was most definitely dead!" Doesn't the title give you enough of a clue? Hello? Resurrection, anybody?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Batman 3: Back in Business

    by hallmitchell

    As an eighties film homage.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Hope That Hardy Plays Black Mask

    by Barron34

    I like that villain, and think he would play well in the Nolan-verse. What I really want to see is Gotham over-run with freaks and criminals, perhaps led by a criminal-in-chief, like the Black Mask, with a few freakish villains as muscle and henchmen. Just as Batman inspired wanna-bees, the Joker should have also. New criminals become villains with new gimmicks. I want to see Batman portrayed as a genius level detective and scientist with billions of dollars of tech and resources available to him (like the cell-phone Pan-opticon in THE DARK KNIGHT). Batman needs to be fighting criminals, solving infernally complicated crimes, all while avoiding the Gotham Police, who consider him a criminal vigilante at the least, and a menace to the City at most. So, I would like to see the chief villain be a crime lord of some sort with henchmen, and Black Mask seems a good choice for that. I also wish they had not killed off Two-Face, as he is a classic Batman villain who could serve a lot more stories to come. Ra's Al-Ghul, Talia, Black Mask, Bane, Catwoman, all would be good characters to choose from. Unlike some, I think that the Riddler would have worked well if handled properly. I like the idea of a genius-level criminal obsessed with riddles, puzzles, and hellishly complicated crimes that only another genius, like Batman, could ever hope to solve. Also, I think it would be a cool tribute to Heath Ledger's performance to keep his Joker character alive, perhaps in just a cameo in Arkham, played by someone like Joaquin Phoenix, or someone who could do the role some justice. Also wouldn't mind a Noln-verse version of Harley Quinn as a psychiatrist in Arkham, foreshadowing the possible future break-out of the Joker.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Barron34...

    by SteveasaurusRex

    I read your post thinking the entire time that you were serious, and totally agreeing with you. Then when you said Joaquin Phoenix I knew you were trolling. Well played and hysterical!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:25 p.m. CST

    i'd love to see

    by imagegod

    Batman wearing less bulky armor actually. since he's being hunted by all, he's going to need to be more stealthy so perhaps giving him a more 'cloth-like' suit would grant him more agility. <p> i realize it would make him all the more vulnerable but nonetheless after 2 films of Batman becoming a Master crimefighter, it would be cool to see him not need to rely on armor as his skills have become sharper. this would get him a little closer to the iconic comic book Batman. and afterall, ninjas don't need armor. that scene in TDK where he's about to jump on Scarecrow's escaping vehicle just makes him seem so lumbering and sluggish, which Batman isn't.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:33 p.m. CST

    i'd love to see a bat-mobile which

    by KilliK

    doesnt destroy half the GC to catch a thief.talk about realism there...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Hardy could be a great DeadShot..

    by BlackBriar

    but that seems unlikely, but you never know?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    WiscoJoe

    by christpunchers2007

    Good analysis. I agree that the original 3 part-er must have been thrown out the window when Heath left. Would this mean that this "plan B" Nolan is doing now will be BETTER than his original plot?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Batman Salvation should be the title

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    i suppose it might get compared to terminator 4, but still we need a classy title, not "I see a dark moon rising"

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:39 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises...

    by Darth_Tarantino

    I guess you could read a lot of things into the title. Perhaps the film begins with Gotham descending into chaos, Batman having retired because the police have come to close to catching him. Then whatever main villain is featured will come into play, neccessitating the return of Batman. So, the Dark Knight rises out of the chaos to bring order back to Gotham?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Astronut i love you

    by Tigger Tales

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Use another Batman alias..

    by professor murder

    1. Batman Begins 2. The Dark Knight 3. The Caped Crusader..........just kidding, haha.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Batman vs. Zach Galifianakis

    by Alice Cooper Stalker

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:52 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises Out Of Bed

    by Phillyflopper

    Mark my words!!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:52 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises Some Dough...

    by Phillyflopper

    Otra vez!!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:53 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises His Bat Stick...

    by Phillyflopper

    x_X

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 5:54 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Inception...

    by Phillyflopper

    Now there's a title. Dammit Hollywood, I best be getting mah check.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6 p.m. CST

    Batman marries Catwoman

    by strosmer

    Boom! There's your fucking movie. Do it Nolan! We are counting on you not to let us down.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Dammit, they need to get Egghead...

    by Phillyflopper

    or whatever his name is. Or that King Tut dude. And bring back Joel Schumacher so that way the series can get rebooted already. XD

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Dammit, they need to get Egghead...

    by Phillyflopper

    or whatever his name is. Or that King Tut dude. And bring back Joel Schumacher so that way the series can get rebooted already. XD

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Batman Fucks Catwoman...

    by Phillyflopper

    Now there's a better movie. In IMAX, no less. =D

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Harvey Dent of Earth...

    by CreamCheeseAlchemist

    Rise!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Title

    by cgh123

    Just call it "Batman" for goodness' sakes.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Batman Begins His Life On The Run...

    by Phillyflopper

    =O

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Batman Begins To Take A Massive Shit...

    by Phillyflopper

    on the Bat Pod, no less.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Catwoman or GTFO

    by Triple_J_72

    Sorry, haters. :-)

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:14 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises Too...

    by Phillyflopper

    mark my words. Number 4's title is already done. XD

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Nolan has made two of the most successfull films for

    by emeraldboy

    WB. TDK and inception. there is no way that this film can commercially be as successful as that one. this then though this will sound stupid. wb and nolan will go all out to make this as bad a film as possible. wb can then reboot the batman with a new team. while nolan moves on to superman. the dark knight rises will be a financial dud. while a couple of hundred million doesnt sound dudish. compared to 2.8 billion it is.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Batman Salvation is terrible

    by jimmy_009

    Salvation is like the go-to generic subtitle done by hacky comic books or genre novels when they want to seem more important than they are, along with Requiem, Redemption, or The Reckoning. They're too smart to tack on a hackneyed subtitle like that. I like Dark Knight Rises just fine.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Yeah, she's already dressed kinky too!

    by strosmer

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Harvey Dent is dead, Two-Face on the Other Hand...

    by John Johnson

    They have a Funeral for Dent, but never show the body after the fall. They say "Dent" is dead....but make no other mentions. To me always felt like he was still alive just completely two-face now. Looking forward to possible Two-Face, Catwoman and maybe an apperence of the Penguin.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:34 p.m. CST

    I am all for Tom Hardy, or whoever Nolan picks, as HUSH

    by SamShotFirst

    It is an amazing storyline and perfect for Nolan's Gotham City series. And I am so glad Batman will be the main focus again. TDK was amazing but it was NOT a Batman movie. It was a Harver Dent and Joker movie. I love Bruce/Batman as a character and can not wait for this movie.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:34 p.m. CST

    I am all for Tom Hardy, or whoever Nolan picks, as HUSH

    by SamShotFirst

    It is an amazing storyline and perfect for Nolan's Gotham City series. And I am so glad Batman will be the main focus again. TDK was amazing but it was NOT a Batman movie. It was a Harvey Dent and Joker movie. I love Bruce/Batman as a character and can not wait for this movie.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:43 p.m. CST

    It HAS to be a rogue gallery villian!

    by AzulTool

    What was it that made Heath's performance so special? It wasn't his take on John Q. Movievillian. It was his take on The Joker. I have no idea who Tom Hardy's going to play, but it has to be somebody at least somewhat familiar, or it won't have the same impact.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:44 p.m. CST

    There is nothing up Nolans sleeve except fancy suits and hot men

    by cleaningwindows

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:44 p.m. CST

    I'm just glad it's not called "Rise of the Batman"

    by Dapper Swindler

    I wish someone with more motivation would make a list of movies that have "Rise of" Something in the title.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Please don't name it that...

    by Rectal Blowout

    I'll bet a million that they want The Dark Knight in the title to remind people and to attach it to the very successful TDK.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises awesome trailer!!!!

    by arta

    People are freaking fast, AND this one is well made. ht tp ://www .youtube. com / watch ?v= nvb84RfUiPE

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Cool

    by TheFlyingWasp

    Now I am really intrigued at who the villain will be. There is a lot that needs to be covered and with this being the final installment in the Nolanverse of Batman, it's going to be interesting to see what he does in 2 1/2 hours (assumed length).

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Dark Knight Rises makes sense as a title...

    by Happyfat73

    Well, to me, anyway. Especially if you look at it in the context of the first film's theme of picking oneself up after a fall. They might be looking to bring that thematic aspect full circle.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:50 p.m. CST

    First one was origin story

    by Omegaman

    and fighting crime; second on was about terrorism; third one should be Batman fighting a tyrannical government which has overreacted to terrorism.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Nolan

    by Bruda5000

    I have been very pleased with the Nolan's Batman films. While I think that about 20 min of fat could have been trimmed off of both movies I am still a huge fan and am very excited for the next installment. Even more so however, I am optimistic about Superman in his and his Brothers capable hands. All in all it's nice to see good direction go to franchises in need.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:51 p.m. CST

    <p>DARK<p>WAS<p>THE<p>KNIGHT<p>

    by DrMorbius

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:52 p.m. CST

    I just hope the suit looks better.

    by AzulTool

    I loved the streamlined, classic look of the Begins (and 1st act of TDK) suit. Yeah, the segmented, moveable-head-suit is more practical and utilitarian. But, it also looked like Tim Gunn designed it.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Tom Hardy for Deadshot

    by Bruda5000

    Make it so.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Shit title.

    by Brick_Walker

    So uninspiring. EVERYTHING FUCKING RISES THESE DAYS. STOP WITH THE RISING! YOU CAN DO OTHER BADASS THINGS BESIDES RISE! Surely the man who delivered us Momento and Inception can come up with a halfwat decent original title. Fine! it doesn't even have to be original, I'd be happy with The Dark Knight Returns or The Caper Crusader, or even something about Gotham. I'm hoping Mr. Nolan is playing silly buggers and telling fibs and that The Dark Knight rises is just a working title. Also get Assassins, led by Talia, to hunt Batman. Yeah, that would be sweet.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 6:56 p.m. CST

    I'd prefer the Riddler

    by Rectal Blowout

    <P> The Nolan bros know how to write stories with plenty of trickery. What a perfect opportunity then to have a character so deceptive and crafty that it makes Batman's head spin. </P> <P> Nolan's Batman films are the simplest of his films, the Riddler would combine a Memento, The Prestige and Inception layered story. </P> <P> Nolan's Catwoman would be dark and hot, but wait till Batman 7 comes out for that. </P>

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Ok, robertplant, here's the script. It's called "Batman: Revela

    by dcsmith

    for the record, it never states Bruce Wayne was outed in the Dark Knight, anyone who saw that movie knows that. And the words "aw shucks" never appear in my script once... guaranteed. But thanks for your well-thought-out, constructive criticism, glad I made enough of an impression that you remembered me all this time later... you used douche-nozzle. Anyone else who might be interested in reading it, you can find it at: http://tinyurl.com/378ew9n

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Tim Lincecum to star as The Loser in TDKR!

    by AzulTool

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:16 p.m. CST

    No 3D!

    by Yelsaeb

    Woo Hoo! I was hoping for that!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Totally new villian

    by Witwiki50

    Why not, why dont they just make up a new villian?! Catman, or Mr Serious or 3 Face!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Batman Descends

    by alxorange

    Dark Knight Rises is just a cop out to capitalize on the movie that made a billion dollars. Terrible title. Batman Descends would be cool and give closure to the series.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:24 p.m. CST

    WHY TWO FACE???

    by Mponder486

    WHy is everybody saying two face? That would be stupid as hell. What could he do to Batman beyond his plan in TDK? Not to mention these films are grounded in reality, and it would be totally unrealistic. It was a stretch for someone that injured to make it through TDK without full medical treatment, much less survive that fall and come back for another film. You would struggle to stay alive for a day or two with those injuries. I would like to see Bane but don't know how real you could make it.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Conti does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    "She's like a Bond girl, someone on the wrong side who has a good heart and the hero feels for."<p> That's a great description of the archtetype for Catwoman, and Conti a way back you also predicted the Penguin as a mob boss villain. With Nolan saying 'no Riddler' I'd put money on you being right with that one. <p> I'd also be tempted to put money on DARK KNIGHT RISES not being the title. Nolan and WB would be unlikely to leak such a major scoop to a single journo. They'd do it in an official announcement. The domain name being free further compounds my suspicions. It's BLUE HARVEST again.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST

    glad to hear the film is coming along

    by JaredP

    i stiil prefer tim burtons films over nolans but hey i grew up them so i quess im impartial

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Sorry, I should have elaborated that confirmed cast member Tom Hardy will play The Penguin.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Can we get some official comment on the lack of web domain?

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    seriously, I know we are all excited for batman 3 news, but come on, no web domain means this isn't the official title

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    http://www.thedarkknightrises.com<p> See for yourself, nothing there.<p> Warner Bros knows a thing or two about marketing online. This is their tentpole movie. The company is going to have a good/bad year based on its success. AND NO ONE THOUGHT TO SECURE THE DOMAIN NAME?<p> Doesn't stack up.You don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to deduce the only explanation can be the title's fake.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:35 p.m. CST

    "Nolan made Batman for grown ups"

    by KilliK

    some Nolanoid said that line in a previous talk-back and i laughed so hard with how retarded these fanboys are that they make such ridiculous statements,that i have promised to myself to bring up this line everytime that there is a TDK talkback,just to remember it again and laugh over it one more time.

  • i seriously liked both films and thought they were very grown up at least those films had real substance unlike the shumacher films which were made just to sell the toy line at mcdonalds and burger king

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:52 p.m. CST

    A mastermind who hires assassins to hunt him.

    by Boober

    KGBeast, Slade "Terminator/Deathstroke" Wilson, Deadshot, Bane...you get the idea. Now that Bats is down, the criminal element wants him dead and puts a MASSIVE bounty on him.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST

    I must be an idiot

    by CountryBoy

    The title sounds fine to me...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST

    LOL just read Brick_Walker's post...

    by Boober

    Guess we think alike and Talia could be the mastermind...I guess that means the movie sorta ends with Bats "Rising" to fill the shoes of Ra's Al Ghul to complete the story arc.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Vigilante ... look it up

    by Barabbas

    Q: is Batman good? needed? Look for those elements in the next script. Nolan will deliver I'm sure. Oh and BTW, the villains dont really matter.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Nobody is talking about...

    by cubs_fan975

    KGBeast or King Snake. I wouldn't mind either one of those. However, i believe Bane would be the logical choice to end Nolan's Batman.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Bring back Ras Al Ghul, Gemma Arterton for Talia

    by JackSlater4

    Bring back scarecrow, and correct Bane

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST

    CHANGE THE NAME! CHANGE THE NAME!

    by GibsonUSA Returns

    I've already heard better ones in this TB..."Gotham", or "Batman" would be far superior.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:24 p.m. CST

    My God, please no Bane

    by Monolith_Jones

    He doesn't even work in the comics.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Thanks Cobra

    by Continentalop

    But I have a sneaky suspicion Tom H. won't be a costumed villain. Batman is going to be hunted, and Gordon's heart isn't going to be in it. Introduce a tough detective played by an actor with gravitas like Tom to add a sense of danger while he tries to hunt him down.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight's night got dark!!... good title.

    by chadiwack

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:30 p.m. CST

    There was a movie called Batman already.

    by JackSlater4

    Came out in '89

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:31 p.m. CST

    DC heros don't do 3D! That's a Marvel stunt!

    by Onin Solstice

    Dark Knight Falls would have been more epic. But still, IMAX > 3D!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:40 p.m. CST

    THe Dark Knight rises like a fart in the wind.

    by chadiwack

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Vicky Vale! Vicky Vale! Vicky-Vicky-Vale!

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:52 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rise of the Machines....

    by lighthouse85

    that sounds better......

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:53 p.m. CST

    BATMAN: DARK KNIGHT OF THE SOLE

    by themanwhojaped

    Should be retitled Batman: Dark Knight of the Sole. The plot has Batman trying to find a pair of boots with a comfortable insole. Tom Hardy can play the sales attendant.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:54 p.m. CST

    I think Batman should fight Prince just for releasing the "Batma

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Tom Hardy is...Harvey Bullock?!

    by Darth_Tarantino

    IMDB seems to think so: http://www.totalfilm.com/news/tom-hardy-as-harvey-bullock-in-the-dark-knight-rises If this turns out to be true, I am 100% for it.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:55 p.m. CST

    n" soundtrack 20 years ago!

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Good point, Happyfat73

    by strosmer

    Even though the title was clearly chosen from a marketing standpoint (titles almost always are, especially for a tentpole film such as this), it still must conform to the story Nolan has devised to have an impact when it immediately hits after the final shot of the movie. And I can understand the reluctance to go with many of the fan-suggested titles. "The Caped Crusader" does carry an air of campiness about it. Initially, I liked this one because it continued the usage of Bats various monikers. It also fell in line with the idea of a progressing identity for Bruce/Batman. If he were to redeem himself in the city's eyes by film’s end, he could be bestowed that name by the people of Gotham, and in turn wear a suit that is both iconic and practical, with an iconic final shot to match. All wishful thinking for my part. I guess "Batman" or "The Batman" would cause confusion when buying the DVDs, at least in a marketing exec’s eyes. And “Gotham”, or “Gotham City”, simply aren’t in line with the previous titles. In any case, it is what it is. Maybe not the perfect pick, but the title “The Dark Knight Rises” does its job. I do wonder what the open-ended title suggests. Who/where is Nolan’s Bruce/Batman going to be at film’s end? I can’t wait to find out.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Lighting

    by themanwhojaped

    I would like a scene where Batbale abuses the shit out of someone for fiddling with the Batsignal light while he talks to Gordon on the roof of GCPD HQ.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:56 p.m. CST

    shit, totally forgot to insert my paragraph breaks

    by strosmer

    oh well

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST

    Batman has to beat up a guy named Schumacher in the movie!

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:58 p.m. CST

    What are the chances Tom Hardy is playing Hush?

    by JackSlater4

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Bruda5000 I agree Dark Knight was a bit long but not BB

    by cgih8r

    The problem for me with Batman Begins is that it seemed to be wanting to cram way too much into one movie. The whole origin story with Rhas Al Gul felt rushed they just kept cutting from scene to the other when I wanted to see more of Bruce Wayne's training. That was the coolest part of the movie.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9 p.m. CST

    My Dark Knight is Rising

    by trombone

    With all the money the last movie made, "Dark Knight" had to be in the title. I was hoping for "Batman Ends", but that would get made into "Batman's End" all too quickly. (My Darknight squirts!) I thought Harvey Dent was dead? Isn't that what Nolan said? I dreamt I saw the movie last night. It became a cultural phenomenon, defining 2012...

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9 p.m. CST

    Paragraphy breaks

    by Darth_Tarantino

    I still don't know how to do them lol

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST

    odo19

    by dodgethis27

    I agree Batman Rises is a better title than The Dark Knight Rises. Batman Rises feels like a title that brings the series full circle. Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Batman Rises. Cool.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Joseph Gordon Levitt could play

    by kafka07

    Alberto Falcone.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Teaser poster, anyone?

    by Darth_Tarantino

    Took me 5 minutes in Photoshop, so it's nothing special. But I do hope they go with the red colour scheme this time: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/richeyhackett/TheDarkKnightRisesTeaserPoster.jpg

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Ugh

    by CT1

    I liked the "dude-linger" somewhere way up above who said it should just be called "Batman", detached cold dark gray/blue Nolan font. It seems to just fit in with the other two names, and would bring to a close what is Nolan's trilogy, and his take on the character. Then, as we all know will happen, Warner Brothers will pimp and whore the shit out of the Batman franchise with crappy writers, directors, and it'll become disposable junk trash again.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Isn't it Obvious?

    by Lesbianna_Winterlude

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Really, that many of you forgot "Batman" was used already?

    by JackSlater4

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:32 p.m. CST

    @Darth tarantino

    by Witwiki50

    your poster dosent show up through that link! i wanna see it

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Justin Bieber IS Catwoman!

    by Lesbianna_Winterlude

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:37 p.m. CST

    BATMAN : CATWOMAN UGLY.

    by hallmitchell

    Catwoman and Batgirl join forces and open up a bar for villains and heroes only. Superman in a cameo as a doorman enforces the dress code.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Witwiki50

    by Darth_Tarantino

    When you copy and paste the link, remember to take out the spaces. That should sort it.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST

    I hope they make Batman bleed this time around

    by cgih8r

    Sure he gets bit by a dog at the very start of the film but for the rest of the movie he's too clean he never even gets his cape dirty. One thing I appreciated with Tim Burton's version was Batman being able to take a beating and still keep fighting like in that clock tower sequence that was badass it wasn't pretty to watch. Scars add character. And when Batman punches someone in the face they BLEED DAMNIT!!! Nolan's Joker didn't even get a broken nose.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:40 p.m. CST

    I'd like to speculate on the batwing

    by JackSlater4

    Stealth bombers cost like 2 billion, and nolan would probably want a fully functional jet, so prolly not gonna happen.<P> Bat copter maybe or batboat. Can't imagine what a new batmobile would look like now.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:42 p.m. CST

    C'mon CGIh8r

    by JackSlater4

    They lit Batman on fire and threw him out a window, and Joker got the shit beat out of him twice.

  • It's like getting lit on fire and getting punched in the face repeatedly has no consequence at all.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:49 p.m. CST

    The main reason the Rise bugs me....

    by odo19

    ..(besides the fact that it's played way the fuck out) is because in the back of my mind I was kind of hoping Nolan was going to kill Batman off at the end of this one. He seemed to have been hinting at this when he said movies aren't like comic books and his story had a definite ending. If there's any "rising" going on he can't die at the end. I guess Conti's theory about this one being about commitment was right.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST

    The Dark of the Moon Rises at Knight

    by JackSlater4

    .com

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Jackslater

    by Continentalop

    Google Canard rotor/wing and you'll see the new batcopter (IMO).

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Joseph Gordon-Levitt

    by proevad

    Like him. I do. That's not going to last long tho, if I see his name suggested on here for every fucking part in Hollywood that hasn't been cast yet. Sorry. Need nourishment. Grumpy.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Dark Knight Returns

    by EpilepticLurcher

    people calling for this as a title clearly have no idea about the Batman story. This should be the last Batman movie that Nolan makes. I'd love him to do this next one then wait a few years and make DKR with a different cast tying it all up. Powers Boothe would fucking own the role of an aged weary Batman. Fuck it, make it the year after next and release in 2014.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:04 p.m. CST

    That's what I'm talking about!

    by JackSlater4

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:08 p.m. CST

    2 Daaaaark 2 Knnnniiiight

    by Johnno

    Ludacris!!! Disturbin tha peace!!!!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:08 p.m. CST

    They should make Dark Knight Returns in 10 years

    by JackSlater4

    Starring Bruce Willis or Stallone, directed by Zach Snyder or Robert Rodriguez, the same way they made Sin City and 300, or else just do it animated 2D in 3D like Beavis and Butthead from Jackass.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:09 p.m. CST

    AM i the Only one?

    by Sergeant_Lincoln_Osiris

    who would be bored to tears with having catwoman be the villain? don't get me wrong i trust nolan, but do it one of 2 ways. 1. invent a new villain because other than the big 4 (penguin,riddler,joker,scarecrow) batman had stupidly conceived badguys. or 2. have a buncha villians team up against him alla legion of doom style....?..maybe?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST

    What if?

    by JackSlater4

    Rachel Dawes didn't die and came back as Catwoman?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Ok, this title SUCKS.

    by Vesuvio

    But I bet a lung the movie will be awesome. Love ya Mr. N!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Sarge,

    by ComSamVimes

    I'd be bored right along with ya.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Odo I think a better term would be "dedication"

    by Continentalop

    But I just have a feeling that the resolution of the final Batman movie is him becoming a "stagnant" character - basically the steady, confident character from the comics. I also think we'll be seeing Dick Grayson - not Robin, but Dick.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Catwoman is great

    by Continentalop

    Because she's not a villain. She is personal dilemma for Bats, not a physical. Someone who he likes but can't trust. Think Irene Adler or even George Clooney in Out of Sight (look at his relationship with J-Lo).

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Yay, no Riddler!

    by severianx1

    Now give us an interesting villain, someone who can (almost) kick Batman's ass. Bane would be good. And speaking of Bane, someone should really film the Knightfall saga. Might even be able to get a couple or three movies out of that one.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:55 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises on YO MAMMA!!

    by chadiwack

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Nolan inventing the villain = horrible idea

    by Nerd Rage

    The entire fun of watching Nolan adapt Batman is seeing how he takes established characters and puts his own spin on them. If he's going to start inventing characters why even call it Batman?

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:12 p.m. CST

    MandrakeRoot is right

    by TV's Frank

    about Heath Ledger being the main reason Dark Knight was so popular and about people needing to quit complaining about 3D. You complain that directors need to shoot movies differently for 3D, and yet you complain even more when a movie is shot regularly for 2D and then converted into 3D after the fact. You can still watch it in 2D. I like 3D better if it is done properly. Werner Herzog's documentary on cave art is going to be in 3D. It's not inherently tacky. Theaters do need to install brighter movie projectors though, as 3D projection results in a darker image. That's my only beef with it.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:12 p.m. CST

    MandrakeRoot

    by christpunchers2007

    I agree. Two Face was ruined in the 2nd film. He feels so crammed in. How am I supposed to give a shit about him if he's not even an interesting character? Dawes' relationship with Wayne is not believable at all. In fact, like you've said, if Ledger wasn't there to amp TDK up, the entire thing falls flat.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Not a Batman fanboy, so please bear with me...

    by BiggusDickus

    ...but I remember reading a story arc where Gotham had been flattened by a quake and Batman had buggered off for some reason.<p>A girl took over the Batman role while he was away and carried on kicking arses in his name until he finally came back (was this Catwoman in disguise? Can't remember!) Anyway, that could work - female 'bat-pretender' lures him out again and turns out to be Liam Neeson's daughter. Just a thought.<p>No fucking Azrael though, please!

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:21 p.m. CST

    *Insert Impractical Joke Here*

    by ToMonicker

    Just a lame title.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Guess we have no choice...

    by jedimast3r

    ...but to accept the compartmentalized, highly narrow vision of the Nolanverse. A Batman without the Man of Steel, and Superman without the Dark Knight. I guess we can enjoy these separately, but if you ask me, I smell fear. <p>Nolan seems distinctly afraid to take on the notion of the DCU. I kinda resent him for it, but at least his Batman is respectable if not extremely likable.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:37 p.m. CST

    DARKEST KNIGHT...

    by NoHubris

    ...would be a take on "the night is darkest before dawn" quote from TDK as has been quoted by Sorbo1980.

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:52 p.m. CST

    The Dark Kunt...

    by Phillyflopper

    I'm still waitin' on my preorder. XD

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:54 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight And Shining Armor...

    by Phillyflopper

    because you need to appeal to those female demographics. XD

  • Oct. 27, 2010, 11:58 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight In Shining Armor...

    by Phillyflopper

    I cannot spilt toneet. XD

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Black Mask and Catwoman

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    I think Batman, Black Mask and Catwoman are good contrasts of how different people use their resources and power for different ends. <p> Have been saying for a long time that having Catwoman, Selina Kyle be Talia would add an interesting element to the character. <p> I think you could have the likes of Deadshot as supporting villians hired by Black Mask to take out Batman, continuing with the theme of escalation and taking Batman/Bruce Ways to (maybe past) his breaking point. <p> Penguin is also another option in place of Black Mask that provides the same sort of contrast. <p> Tom Hardy for either Black Mask or Penguin for me. <p>

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Bane, Azrael, and Talia

    by clupula

    That's the best combination for the end of the trilogy. SOOOOOO glad they're bringing the Riddler in this. Now, if Nolan will only confirm they're keeping out the equally lame Catwoman, I'll be overjoyed.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Bane, Azrael

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    I feel the whole Knightfall storyline is too big for one movie to do it justice. <p> Would be amazing to see it on screen, but just can't see it in one movie, could be too watered down. <p> After this third one, how long will it be before another Batman movie is made, would be an incredinly tough act to follow, but I think Knightfall would make a great two part project that someone could sink their teeth into. <p> Similarly Dark Knight Returns, with an old Batman and Joker would be a great solo Batman movie.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Gravy

    by BadMrWonka

    besides Cameron and Soderbergh, Nolan is regarded as one of the most knowledgeable directors out there in terms of cameras and lenses. his complaints about the limitations of 3D were absolutely correct. <p>and there's only so much you can "innovate" with IMAX to decrease their size, noise, etc. no matter what you do, the film is huge, and so the camera is going to be fairly big as well.<p> and shooting an entire movie in IMAX may be fine if you're shooting, say, Mount Everest, and everything is a hundred yards away. but shooting IMAX inside, with moving actors requires a HUGE amount of precision. in places where the focal plane is a few feet with normal 35mm cameras, with IMAX it might only be a couple inches. it's not as simple as just up and deciding to shoot an entire film that way, it would add a huge amount of production cost, as well as weeks more of filming. <p> 3D is fine as a novelty, especially with fantasy or sci-fi. but if the whole purpose of Nolan's Batman series is to tell these grandiose, operatic stories on a more realistic canvas, why on earth would 3D add to that? I don't think Nolan was fighting against 3D because he doesn't understand the technology, it's because it's a gimmick that would be wholly unsuited to his vision.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:42 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight is overrated!

    by Exasperilious

    I was falling asleep half way through the Dark Knight...Nolan's Batman movies have become a bore. There's no sense of fun like the Burton Batmans. Long live Michael Keaton as Batman! Also putting Dark Knight in the title is a bad choice. And to all who don't like the Riddler...check him out in the Arkham Asylum game, cause he could be a really interesting character.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:50 a.m. CST

    You could do Knightfall

    by clupula

    If you altered it a bit and had it tie into the last two movies. Bane is hired by the remains of the mob, while Batman is on the run. Talia, now leader of the League of Shadows, comes to Gotham seeking revenge. Meanwhile, another order, that of St. Dumas, sends in Azrael, thinking that a member of the LOS killed a major figure like Harvey Dent.<BR><BR> Azrael realizes that Batman is not actually evil and helps him against Talia, who develops an attraction to Batman, despite her need to avenge her father.<BR><BR> Meanwhile, Bane interrogates and kills Reese from TDK, finding out that Bruce Wayne is Batman. He attacks, almost killing Wayne, who is saved by Azrael (you can't have Bruce paralyzed. You're right, that won't work in a two and a half hour movie. But you can have him get so fucked up by Bane that he loses his faith in his own abilities).<BR><BR> Azrael sees that Bruce is a symbol to the people of Gotham, so he becomes Batman and kills Bane. He then forces Lucius Fox to upgrade his outfit and goes after Talia, not caring about the collateral damage to the city and its people. Bruce sees the damage Azrael is doing, so he forces himself to finally accept that only he can be the Batman. The two Batman fight, Bruce wins the very public battle. Azrael demands that Bruce kill him, but when Bruce doesn't, Azrael realizes where he went wrong and then decides to lie in order to save Batman: he confesses to the murder of Harvey Dent, saying that he was the Batman who did it, not the real Batman.<BR><BR>With Batman's name cleared, the movie ends with Bruce finally accepting his destiny and realizing that only he can protect Gotham City.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 1:02 a.m. CST

    New villain will be a puppet on Bruce Wayne's left hand

    by Anything But Tangerines

    that won't let him put the costume on. title: the dark aardvark refuses

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 1:20 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight Ultra:

    by UltraTron

    The Dark Knight will confront The Man of Steel, in a cosmic battle for world supremacy. Batman will pit his every resource and the might of his technological empire against an extraterrestrial so powerful that he threatens the very existence of mankind. It turns out in the end that the Parasite or Brainiac was making superman do the bad stuff.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 1:49 a.m. CST

    CATWOMAN WOULD SUCK AS A MAIN VILLAIN

    by gruemanlives

    Mainly because I can't possibly imagine how she could become a big threat to Gotham city. I could see her becoming a mental struggle for batman/bruce wayne, but I don't sense a grand scale epic threat coming from her, and if somehow it does, I couldn't buy it. I want something epic, something that escaltes (building off the theme of Escalation from the previous two films). The Penguin or Black Mask would fit this concept the best in my opinion. Penguin as a corrupt politician/arms dealer FTW.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 1:52 a.m. CST

    Miyamoto_Musashi

    by gruemanlives

    I agree with you 100% assuming catwoman is more of a "distraction" than a main villain.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 2:20 a.m. CST

    I see the dark knight rising

    by tomimt

    It's cool, that WB lets Nolan do his stuff the way he wants.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 2:27 a.m. CST

    the dark knight ALSO rises.

    by the_man_from_Rio

    hemingway is proud of you for getting it

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 2:29 a.m. CST

    TOOOOOOOO SOOOOOOOON

    by the_man_from_Rio

    not soooooooon enooooooough!!!!!

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 2:31 a.m. CST

    the darker the knight, the sweeter the revenge

    by the_man_from_Rio

    my name is Bernardo and i approve this message

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 2:33 a.m. CST

    mercury rising is a good movie and it has "rise" in it

    by the_man_from_Rio

    PSYYYYCH!!!!

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 2:34 a.m. CST

    weekend at Batsys

    by the_man_from_Rio

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 2:50 a.m. CST

    i just got off the phone with christian bale and...

    by the_man_from_Rio

    he PERSONALLY told me two-face aint dead. he's on an island with elvis, biggie and tupac...chillin...waiting to make his triumphant return

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:05 a.m. CST

    seriously, though

    by the_man_from_Rio

    if would be cool if Nolan and company go with a Talia storyline where they meet and dont know each other aliases, Talia is trying to capture Batman and she gets preggo n they find out about each others identities, meanwhile Black mask and other new eccentric criminals are hunting down Bats. also, Nolan should try and keep it open-ended for more films in the future, like the knightfall storyline, which would ABSOLUTELY RULE.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:09 a.m. CST

    last, but not least

    by the_man_from_Rio

    chuck norris does not have a twitter account...because chuck norris is ALREADY following you. put that in your pipe and smoke it.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:48 a.m. CST

    lol

    by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE

    so that settles that. we can put the Riddler to bed, but now the Two Face debate is back on the front burner! TWO FACE IS DEAD! WAIT, WHAT? HES ALIVE?! O.k. fine bring him back that actually sounds like a good idea.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Gotham's Crusader, or

    by christpunchers2007

    Dark Knight Returns, or Rising Crust of the Dark Knight, .... ANYTHING but this unimaginative, blatantly obvious, boring hammy 2nd grader title

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 4:57 a.m. CST

    Have a hunch what the story might be.

    by misterk360

    The last film pretty much ended with the demise of all the major mobster in the Gotham, I think your going to see two major villains fighting for control. Anyway if this ends up being Nolans take on the third film, I would be pretty excited if it was Deacon Blackfire and The Ventriloquist. .

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 5:36 a.m. CST

    Don't u get it?...

    by Master Bruce

    Nolan is NOT a fanboy...never was. He's almost embarassed by the comic book source material & seemingly does everything he can to separate his movies from it. I too would expect more "realistic" villians like Talia & Hugo Strange than Penguin or Catwoman. Hell, I don't even hold out much hope for a new batcave or batmobile @ this point either.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 6 a.m. CST

    Natalie Portman

    by andymillman

    As Talia Al-Ghul/Catwoman. Sorted.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 6:39 a.m. CST

    Dark Knight Rises? Funny.

    by Zardozap2005

    Like someone else said, they won't even have to change the name for the porn version.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 6:42 a.m. CST

    Oh...

    by Zardozap2005

    Plus I'm VERY glad to see a lot of high profile directors resisting the need to shoot in 3D. Saw 3D I expect. Really, what would be the point of converting TDKR to 3D at this point other than a pure cash grab.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 7:07 a.m. CST

    BadMrWonka prove it...

    by KilliK

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 7:41 a.m. CST

    This better be leading to casting Adam West in The Dark Knight R

    by Smashing

    Make it fucking so.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 8:43 a.m. CST

    agreed. dent's arc made no sense.

    by HelveticaConspiracy

    as much as i enjoyed the dark knight, dent's arc was retarded. he becomes a killer and hates batman, because batman tried to save him?! and, he gets in league with the joker even though it was clearly the joker who killed his girl, not batman. stupid. and, for the theory that 2 face will return- he won't. nolan has already gone on record saying 2 face is dead. period.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Dent does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Helvetica, I think Harvey Dent as Two Face did feel a bit rushed, but Harvey Dent as 'himself' was imho very well woven into the rest of the story.<p> It's also made clear that once Dent is burned he goes insane - so the rationality behind his actions is blurred. But I do dispute that he 'joins forces' with the Joker, I think it's pretty clear from the hospital bed scene that he hates the Joker.<p> He kills a bunch of people that were culpable (at least in his troubled mind) and Gordon and Batman were on the shit list!<p> I didn't have a problem with understanding his motivation.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    I've Figured It Out!!

    by themarshall

    RA'S WILL RETURN AND WILL BRING HARVEY BACK FROM THE DEAD TO WREAK HAVOK ON GOTHAM CITY! If you've seen the animated "Red Hood", you have an idea what I'm talking about.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Wombat Man!!!

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Films with 'rise' in the title make me nervous.

    by Mr Nicholas

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST

    themarshall

    by gruemanlives

    Lol, yea, and they might as well have flying androids that can absorb superhuman powers too.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST

    ok

    by Smack_Teddy

    Nolan is either mining Hush then, and its Catwoman and were gonna see Hardy as Hush...or he is Azrael or Black Mask. Or Bane. Thats my (very spread) bet. Oh, they coukd easily bring back two-face/Harvey if they wanted, we learnt from Gordon nothing is as it seems neccessarily, it WAS intended to be a drop-off/lead into the third origionally, if Harvey/Two-face were known to be alive and corrupted by the joker then he would have checkmated the white night and publicly won and made his point about batman - so you lock him up in Arkham, work the media and let him stew crazy. Its no more ridiculous than Gordon faking it... <p>The more i think about it the less i would like Hardy to be Black Mask, unless Nolan offers a noticably different take on the character. Parts of Hush, The Long Halloween & Dark Victory (obviously without Robin) would suit me along with returning characters...betting its Selina not Talia, but if it was Talia, that would interesting...(half serious) bets that Nolan would love to have Grayson die in the fall with his folks and just cut right to Damian in any forseeable Batman future?

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Thank GOD this is not 3D. Nolan is right on.

    by Stifler's Mom

    3D is not more immersive now than it was fifty years ago. Fun at times, but mostly distracting. Even the best modern usages (Avatar probably being the best)seem like cash grabs. The technology still hasn't evolved to the level where you feel truly "immersed", instead those stupid glasses are usually just a reminder that you're watching a movie.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 11:18 a.m. CST

    The reason it can't be 3D is the context

    by Continentalop

    Cameron's goal was to take you to a new world - 3D heightens that experience of encountering something different because it is a way we normally don't experience movies. <p> Nolan wants Batman to feel like it is in the real world. And while we might see in 3D we are used to watching 2D movies. 3D would have made it feel strange, not familiar like Nolan was going for (even the IMAX, which is what we aren't visually familiar with, was used sparingly and to give the film the feeling of grandiose).

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 11:25 a.m. CST

    the name is weak and derivative.......

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    but like others have said I'm sure it's relevant to the plot.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 11:31 a.m. CST

    At least....

    by jellypop

    the title wasn't the Phantom menace..who would use that?...

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Very weak title...

    by Wes_Reviews_

    Why would you invite comparisons to the previous movie by using its title in the title of the third film? The title needed to be something stand-alone. Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and something different. Maybe Shadow of the Bat, The Caped Crusader, or I'd even settle for Batman Rising or something like that. But The Dark Knight Rises is incredibly bland and weak. Smells of Goyer.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 11:48 a.m. CST

    My GRIPE with the "Nolanverse"

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    Don't get me wrong I'm pumped for the new movie and I loved the last two films. In Nolan I trust...however...<P> Looking through this TB and other places online I really notice something. In a way Nolan's gritty realistic take has really limited his versions of the Batman world.<P> Every time someone suggests a popular villain someone else quickly shoots the villain down because they "wouldn't fit into the Nolan universe." So no Riddler, no killer croc, no robin, no this, no that....<P> Seriously how many villains and story aspects of the Batman world are forced to be dumped in favor of Nolan's approach. Not that some of these villains are the best choiced but still it suck that such villains work fine in the comics, games, novels....etc...but they are automatically dismissed for the big screen. Part of me looks forward to a new future approach to batman that's perhaps some type of interesting combination of Nolan's real world and Burton's more fantastical world where a villain like clayface could show up and it wouldn't seem that out of place.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 11:54 a.m. CST

    I mean, this is like...

    by Wes_Reviews_

    ...if Return of the Jedi had been called "The Empire Strikes Back Again".

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 11:59 a.m. CST

    or.....

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    if empire was called "A new Hope Rises"

  • Oct. 28, 2010, noon CST

    Nolan Ended the Realism with Two-Face

    by Wes_Reviews_

    I think the "realism" of the "Nolanverse" kind of died with how they handled Two-Face. He wasn't remotely realistic in the least. I think you could ease a couple of the more fantastical villains into the third movie with little trouble, if handled like Two-Face.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST

    CHRISTINA HENDRICKS IS CATWOMAN

    by TopHat

    Remember the cover of one of those Catwoman comics with her standing facing you like she's taking a jail photo, holding her prisoner number with her make-up running down her face like she's crying? It looks exactly like Hendricks. Also, for the skeptical ...remember "Saffron"?

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    The problem with Christina Hendricks as Catwoman

    by JackSlater4

    Don't get me wrong, she's gorgeous, but not athletic enough for that role, sometimes her posture is so bad, on Mad Men profile shots look as though she is borderline hunchback/scoliosis, no doubt a result of her top-heavy build.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:24 p.m. CST

    BATMAN ON THE RUNNNNNNN

    by Stalkeye

    Sung by Paul Mccarthy's Band Wings.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:27 p.m. CST

    BatBanned: The Rise of Beaks.

    by Stalkeye

    "..and where's Asi and BSB?" "they're at home, washing their tights". (seriously, where the hell are they, hopefully they didn't receive the banhammer like so many tbers recently.)

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Props to TheJudger

    by BadPho

    Great lines there, made me believe that it could work...

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    The Empire Strikes Back...

    by SK229

    is as ridiculous a title as Attack of the Clones. But you take ESB seriously, even the title, because the movie is amazing. AOTC... not so much.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:47 p.m. CST

    BATMAN: FIRST CONTACT

    by FlyingToupee

    Bruce meets Selina and loses his virginity. Very appealing, and the nude scenes with Kelly Brook as Catwoman guarantee that Harry won't fall asleep during the movie.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Wes_Reviews_

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    I don't know man....I feel like if clayface or killer croc showed up @ this point fans would throw a hissyfit even if they were handled kinda like 2face. No matter what many of batmans villains are really out there.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Killer Croc could work

    by Continentalop

    Pre-Crisis he was just a hulking, ruthless thug who suffered from a severe form of Ichthyosis, an actual skin disorder. I could easily see him in Nolan's version, but as a henchman not as the main villain. He's more Oddjob and Jaws than he is Blofeld or Goldfinger.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 1:12 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight : Ghost Protocol

    by Transhuman

    Dammit! Taken.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 1:37 p.m. CST

    What a shitty film title

    by scriptgirl_nipples

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 1:41 p.m. CST

    I dont know what is worse: That Evans as Cap America pic

    by KilliK

    that was released today or this PIECE OF SHIT title for a bat-sequel movie?

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    true that version could work of croc could work.....but again would even that be to "out there" for Nolan's tastes? <P> I think a modified riddler could have worked even easier and yet that's not happening.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 1:48 p.m. CST

    KilliK is whining, what a shock

    by MattmanReturns

    "The title sucks. Captain America sucks. Krypton sucks." Mix it up and try liking something for a change.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 1:51 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns

    by KilliK

    ok

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST

    KilliK is still mad because

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    incredible hulk made more money than ang lee's hulk

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Yeah I figured his anger was coming from elsewhere

    by MattmanReturns

    I don't think anyone honestly thinks "The Dark Knight Rises" is a "PIECE OF SHIT" title. You may not like it, but "PIECE OF SHIT"? Really? The title sounds like a Frank Miller Batman title, honestly. "The Dark Knight Returns, The Dark Knight Strikes Again." It fits just fine.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 2:27 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns nope the Rises is flat out lame

    by KilliK

    Returns,Strikes Again or Triumphant they are a lot better titles and they fit the theme of the new movie,since Bats will return to GC.<br /> <p>Rises,apart from being overused,it gives a similar thematic meaning like the title of the first movie,Batman Begins.replace Begins with Rises and you get the same meaning.imho Nolan didnt want to use Returns or Strikes because,as he has pointed out,he wants his work with the cinematic version of Bats to be completely separated by the famous works of its comic counter-part.<br /> <p>not that it is wrong that he wants to do that,but ffs use some other,more meaningful and powerful title for you movie.not that it will matter with the final quality of the new movie,but thats another story.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Hannibal Rising,Deep Rising,T4:Rise of the Machines,

    by KilliK

    GIJOE:The Rise of Cobra,Underworld: Rise of the Lycans,F4:Rise of the Silver Surfer,Mercury Rising,Rising Sun and lets not talk about the porn movies which have these words.<br /> <br /> <p>very original and inspired title there mr Nolan.....

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Ok, I'll say it...

    by JustUsNerdsHere

    ...Dark Knight Rises is kind of a lame title. It could reference a return of Ra's al Ghul since he has a tendency to return from the dead in the comics.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Nolan should have held off on letting the title out of the bag

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    ..........until we had more info on the plot/direction/villain. Because as it is it's just some generic, boring uninspired title floating out there with no sense of context.<p>not a good way to drum up initial excitement. Also add to the mix that Riddler wont be the villain. So we know Joker wont return in any capacity, riddler wont be the villain, 2face wont be back...we know everything the movie wont fucking be.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Can't process this shit right now

    by proevad

    This time traveling cell phone woman in Chaplin's "Circus" is freaking me the fuck out. WTF is that in her hand and why is she speaking into it?

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST

    2-face WILL come back.come on guys Eckhart

    by KilliK

    has said numerous times that he had signed for 2 movies.now unless the studio resigned him of the contract because of having to change their plans after Ledger's death,i dont see any reason why 2-Face is not going to return.after all we didnt see him dead in TDK.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Emily Blunt = Catwoman

    by BrannigansLaw

    And that's the last time I'm gonna say it.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Two-Face...

    by SebastianHaff

    Was really underused in the Dark Knight. Loved the movie, but was bummed that that was all we got of Two Face. Really hope he comes back bigger and badder for the new one.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    I can't believe...

    by catlettuce4

    Some of you are so clueless on this title. I'm sure WB would call it "The Dark Knight 2" if they thought they could get away with it. Of course the title has "The Dark Knight" in it somehow.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST

    if we see aaran eckhart again......

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    it wont be as two face alive and well.......it'll be a relevant flashback or something featuring newly shot footage of aaron as harvey dent.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    It's a hearing aid by Siemens. Released in 1924

    by proevad

    Oh thank God. Mystery solved. Not enough xanax in the world...Not thinking Two-Face or Eckhart will be in this.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:29 p.m. CST

    The more I think about it

    by donchild

    the more I believe that Black Mask/Roman Sionis could be the main antogonist/villain in this movie. This character's whole back story is fascinating , a young Gotham born heir like Wayne who loses his parents through tragic circumstances, except this guy murders his own folks by burning them in their own mansion and then inherits the family fortune, then sets himself up as an industrialist before following his more deeply ingrained sinister compulsions by turning to crime. The character is a darker, evil version of Wayne and could open up all sorts of exciting thematic & narrative possibilities! It would make for a very interesting parallel with Wayne by dealing with a man similar to himself in so many respects but who chooses a different path as he takes the ruins of Gothams criminal underworld in the wake of TDK and reforges a new criminal empire headed by himself! Could definitely see Hardy bringing something powerful to a character like that.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Two Face

    by HornOrSilk

    Will be back. That is one thing we know already. Really, people. Nolan is famous for bait and switch. What we got with Two-Face's death is just that. How he will do it is something else. Many people think that the police faked his death, and this makes some sense. But it is possible there will be more than this revealed in the next movie. They might go further in explaining how he survived originally, and with that, explain more what happened with his supposed "death." What we have, really, is just another "magic trick."

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST

    two face has already been done

    by fat_rancor_keeper

    why is everyone insistent on him returning? we've been there, done that, and seen his completed story arc for the most part.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Re: Riddler - Missed Opportunity!!!

    by alpeter3

    I can't believe no one has brought this up yet. Regarding the Riddler, I agree that the Frank Gorsham/Jim Carrey mega-hyper Riddler would be a disaster. But what about the calm, cool-headed, sinister Riddler voiced by the great John Glover in Batman: The Animated Series. No skin-tight green unitard, but black trousers, black button-down shirt, green jacket, green derby, and question-mark cane. He was sly, calculating, and NEVER hyper! He wouldn't have been a Joker wannabe. He wouldn't be laughing maniacally or putting on a nurse outfit (as cool and funny as those were). And he wouldn't need to be a 'Zodiac Killer' like others have suggested. He'd be more like Keyser Soze (ie Kevin Spacey in the Usual Suspects). Very cool, very calm, very dangerous! Plus I could totally see Tom Hardy pulling that off.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST

    i found the movie posters!

    by wtfuckers

    theyre up at http://tinyurl.com/249spp8... smh at whoever came up wit that

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Un-fucking-believable people bought into that "time traveling" b

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    I mean, COME THE FUCK ON! A certain amount of physychology works into this. We see an action we associate with modern times and supplant that onto an image from 1929 and then say "That doesn't fit!" Well no fucking shit it doesn't fit, you forced it on there! You really think an old woman who was a time traveler would whip out a fucking cell phone and walk around on a movie set? By the way, which 1929 cell phone company is she using? What satellite is she using considering there wouldn't be any for 40 fucking years? And where exactly did she get a cell phone the size of a fucking cigar box? </p><p>Seriously people, wake the fuck up!

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST

    The Sun Also Rises

    by christpunchers2007

    Lame!

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Return of Fett, you don't understand.

    by rbatty024

    It's a cell phone from the future. It doesn't need satellite service. Come on!

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Two Face has gotta be it

    by Dr Farragammo

    When I 1st heard about the DK story. I imagined in my head it would end with Harvey becoming 2 Face and vowing vengeance on my Batman. And I think it would have been a better film & more balanced if it was just Batman vs Joker. I loved DK a LOT, but I think everyone admits it was too long. So my theory is 2 Face comes back to settle the score, maybe Ra's returns as well? I actually am a little sad about the Riddler, only because I think Nolan would have actually made him formidable. I've always thought if he was presented ala John Doe in Se7en having some sadistic killings set off by clues that he would really resonate and not be some stupid cackling jewel thief. I think it would be cool to have Deadshot or Croc in supporting roles, but Croc would have to be the original one who just had the skin disease as Nolan can't go the fanciful route. Which also eliminates Man-Bat, one of my favorites. Not big on the title. I was thinking they would call it the Caped Crusader naming each one after one of his nicknames...but that would be pretty lame too.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    But losing Riddler is a missed opportunity and what about showin

    by Dr Farragammo

    The more I think about it, the more this seems counterintuitive not using the Riddler. Nolan's films are usually engaging mysteries, the Batfilms excluded. I've always been let down in that angel as I really haven't seen much of Batman's detective skills and that's part of what makes him so compelling. using the Riddler would have showcased this and played to Nolan's strengths. WTF?!?

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    and I think Dexter should be Batman

    by Dr Farragammo

    And since Bale is nuts and justs phones in his work now...I think Michael C Hall should be Batman. What other actor has the experience of playing duality so well within a protagonist? Give him a little extra strength training, dye his hair dark and they're you go

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 5:11 p.m. CST

    This needs Owen Wilson as Egghead. Go campy.

    by ricarleite2

    Go Batman & Robin. Fuck the franchise.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 5:34 p.m. CST

    The Dark Knight Rises plot

    by Ivan_Mtl

    As I've stated before , I think that THE DARK KNIGHT RISES will involve the hunting down and capturing of Batman by Gotham city's police force (a la Year one). Batman/Bruce Wayne will be unmasked and forced to stand trial for the murder of Harvey Dent. During his trial, he will be declared insane by Gotham City's chief psychiatric examiner, PROFESSOR HUGO STRANGE, and will be sentenced to Arkham Asylum. Once there, he will have to defend himself from the other inmates including Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow (perhaps a former student/protoge of Prof Strange?). It could all be an elaborate setup to get Batman out of the way as a mysterious new crime boss has seized control of Gotham City. Bruce Wayne, with the help of Lucious Fox and Alfred, eventually figures it out (using his great detective skills), and comes to the realization that the new crime boss is in fact, HARVEY DENT/TWO-FACE. It was all a setup, and Bruce Wayne/Batman can no longer be considered guilty of a murder that never took place. Somewhere in the bowels of Arkham Asylum, the Joker has the last laugh.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Rises is bad but Returns is okay?

    by MattmanReturns

    Explain why.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 6:02 p.m. CST

    batman 3 plot idea

    by sonnyhooper

    the joker is locked in arkham, the mob has be scattered to the four winds, and batman is on the run from the true law in gotham. <p> into the power vacum steps oswald "the penguin" cobbelpot, a "legitimate businessman" in the classic al capone style. but don't call him "the penguin" because you might end up at the bottom of the gotham river. nothing can be proven about cobbelpots nefarious underworld dealing, he is untouchable in everyway. which frustrates batman to no end, especially considering that bats himself in now considered public enemy number one. <p> little does anyone know that the penguin is nothing but a pawn of the new head of the leauge of shadows........talia al ghul, who is in town to settle a score with bruce wayne, the man who killed her father. <p> so what happens when the halley circus comes to town and the flying graysons get caught in the crossfire?

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 6:11 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns

    by KilliK

    because its the title of the best Batman comic ever written.thats fucking why.case closed.

  • yeah Wayne is in the risk of being caught by the police as a criminal,every time he puts his Bat-mask on,but he is not exactly a fugitive on the run who tries to escape the law you know.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Yes! No 3D!

    by Darth Thoth

    Nolan, you are the man!

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 6:24 p.m. CST

    KilliK, you can't be serious...

    by arta

    Of course he's a fugative! In the real world if someone shoots a cop that person has to freaking go on the run and go into hiding even the police might not know his exact identity yet, because for damn sure they are going to be on his trail closing in. So as far as Batman being wanted for high profile murders, just because he might stick his head out once in a whle to take down some gangsters doesn't mean he has to fucking flee within 5 minutes.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 6:34 p.m. CST

    you do understand that Batman is a masquerade person right?

    by KilliK

    noone knows Wayne's secret identity,so Wayne is safe as long as he is not wearing the mask.So how exactly Batman is on the run,when Wayne is sitting comfortably in his office,smoking his cigar and thinking if tonight is a good night to go out hunting crooks without risking to be caught?<br /> <p>yeah i am pretty sure Wayne is shitting his pants right now,trembling to the thought that the cops are going to discovere his identity and catch him any minute now,the same cops who couldnt get GC rid off from all the mafia bosses until Batman showed up.yep.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 6:36 p.m. CST

    I second Killer Croc

    by crazybubba

    anything but another villian that has already been used in a previous Batman movie i.e. Catwoman, Two-face, Riddler, Penguin etc. etc. etc.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 6:51 p.m. CST

    as the godamn batman once said...

    by sonnyhooper

    ..." what are you dense? are you retarded or something?" <p> any "real world" city detective could figure out that bruce wayne is the goddamn batman is about ten seconds flat. it's all about means and motive. any cop in gotham would ask himself who has the means and the motive to be batman? gee maybe the richest guy in town whos parents were gunned down in a mugging gone bad? lets see.... being rich gives him the means, and dead parents gives him a motive. <p> sometimes i think some people just like to be dense retarted assholes on purpose. <p> and BTW "on the run" is a figure of speech. dope.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Batman hunted

    by Continentalop

    Yes Batman has a secret ID and the GCPD isn't that competent so Batman should safe. Except for a couple of things: <p> a) Batman is hunted by both the cops and the crooks, meaning he's taking double the heat and has no allies. <P> b) The old GCPD in BB and even the 1st half of TDK wasn't run by Gordon. He demonstrated he was a compotent and intelligent alley for Bats, now he has to hunt him. <p> C) Of course Gordon's heart won't be in it, which means you need a tough, cunning cop leading the Batman squad. Enter Tom Hardy as Det. Bullock (as rumored on imdb) as the cop willing and able to take Bats down. <p> D) which leads to my theory that the main villain will be a criminal who stays to the bg and doesn't appear menacing because otherwise the manhunt for Batman will be called off. And only one villain fits that description: The Penguin. This will be a rough adaptation of Detective comics #58, the Penguin's first appearance. <p> Just like predicted months ago!

  • which makes it a bit of idiotic that noone,not even Joker,could figure out who Batman was,except for an accountant ffs.which it will make it even idiotic if TDKR spends the whole movie to hunt down Bats instead of GCPD figuring out who Bats in the first ten seconds of the movie.right?

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 7:08 p.m. CST

    have you ever gotten...

    by sonnyhooper

    .......the feeling, as you are talking to someone, that you would be better off talking to a brick wall? <p> i just got that feeling. big time.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 7:15 p.m. CST

    First off this isn't the real world

    by Continentalop

    It just resembles. But you still have to suspend disbelief. I mean Lex Luthor, the World's Smartest Man, or Pulitzer Prize-winnin reporter Lois Lane can't figure out Clark Kent is Superman? It is a convention of the genre. <p> Secondly, in the comic people have been very close in figuring out Bats identity but he has always managed to throw them off the trail. Body doubles, alibis, faked photos and videos, disguises, etc. I expect to see similar plot devices to pop up in the next movie.

  • end instead of revealing his secret id,she will keep it as a secret because she fell in love with Bruce/Bats

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Probably just reiterating what many have said here already...

    by Dead_Flag_Blues

    But, FUCK, this news pisses me off. First, the title is SHIT. I expected much more from Nolan and company. Lazy and uninspired to say the least... Not only that, but it just sounds awkward. "Rise of the Dark Knight", while still shit, sounds more "comfortable", than "The Dark Knight Rises". My pick would've been "Knightfall". Although i do like "The Dark Knight Returns", "Shadow of the Bat", or just simply "BATMAN", or "The Batman". Any of those suggestions are far better than the hack title that Nolan (or probably Warner Bros.) picked. <P> And no fucking Riddler?!? I thought that was a fucking LOCK. Like i thought a Raimi's LIZARD-centric Spiderman was... Raimi and the Lizard just feel like a match made in heaven. As would a Riddler-focused, Nolan-Batman flick. Seriously, a grounded, more realistic take on the riddler is fucking PERFECT for a film-maker like Nolan, who loves mind games and puzzles and whatnot. All of his films have been psychologically heavy, so why not use the most psychological batman villain (Riddler probably being tied with Joker) <P> It's a fucking no-brainer! My best guess, would be that it would be TOO EASY, and that's why he went in a different direction. He wanted more of a challenge. But i'm definitely worried about this development. <P> Crossin' my fingers here...

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Villain

    by Colonel Activity

    It will be Maxie Zeus played by Glenn Beck.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Bringing back villains

    by Luscious.868

    "It would be dumb. You bring back characters in comics. You're only getting a few movies in a series, there's no way they're going to bring back the guy that was just in the last one."<p><p>Tell that to George Lucas about Darth Vader.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 9:14 p.m. CST

    When Nolan said

    by Rodie

    to expect familiar characters coming back and some new ones, I immediately thought of Scarecrow. I bet Scarecrow has another cameo in this one just like TDK, making him the only baddie seen in all three Nolan films. Harvey/Two-Face is dead. DEAD. I don't even think we'll see Dent at all except maybe his picture or a plaque or statue somewhere lionizing him as the "White Night" of Gotham. Just because Eckhart signed a contract for two films before TDK, all that means is that he was contractually obligated to appear in a sequel to TDK for a certain price IF called upon to appear. It doesn't mean that he was guaranteed a role in that sequel.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Speculation for plot of Dark Knight Rises

    by Ivan_Mtl

    My speculation is based on what we know from the previous Nolan Bat-films. 1) We know that at the end of The Dark Knight, Batman is now on the run from the police because they believe him to be responsible for the murder of district attorney Harvey Dent. 2) Cillian Murphy (Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow) appeared in both films (which indicates to me that Nolan enjoys working with him) and his character is now, presumably, locked up in Arkham Asylum. Obviously if Batman is going to confront him again, he has to somehow end up in Arkham. If that were the case, then he would need to be declared criminally insane by a psychiatrist, which opens the door for Hugo Strange. 3) In Batman Begins, we first see Bruce Wayne as a prisoner fighting other prisoners as part of his training. I think allowing himself to be committed to Arkham Asylum (for whatever reason… need for information, perhaps?) would be similar to that, and in character. 4) If, in fact, Eckhart did sign for two movies, he obviously has to appear in the next film. Since I don’t think he will be appearing in a flashback sequence, it stands to reason that his character somehow survived his apparent death (making him the logical choice for the villian, and wrapping up the trilogy). In the end, the Joker is proven right. How many movies can you think of in which the villian actually wins?

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 10:45 p.m. CST

    He couldn't drop the Dark Knight title it sounds too cool

    by cgih8r

    I was always wondering what he would title the 3rd movie because there just didn't seem to be an easy way to do it without making it sound like less of a movie. But Dark Knight Rises works fine, it still sounds cool and it uses the previous title which will make alot more people recognize it as a follow up and want to go see it. It's good marketing I think.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 10:48 p.m. CST

    People need to forget Dent. He's DEAD. keep dreamin

    by cgih8r

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    ***** Dark Knight in Gotham *****

    by JDanielP

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 12:01 a.m. CST

    Why the Robin hate?

    by richardtodd

    What is not awesome (and dark and gritty or whatever the nolanverse should be) about a 10-12 yr old kid beating grown men near death. maybe a combination of dick/jason. maybe no costume or whole circus story line but some kid batman encounters and takes in something. if anyone should do the robin character on film it should be nolan. and like it or not robin is a part of the batman mythology. if the joker can be done right, then so can robin. also, penguin could be a cool secondary vilain as a non penguin deformed freak but just an arms dealer/information peddler or club owner.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Also dent...

    by richardtodd

    maybe nolan said he was dead but just about everyone who saw dark knight was asking themselves if he really was.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 2:58 a.m. CST

    KilliK, so by your retard logic

    by MattmanReturns

    if Dark Knight Rises turns out to be an awesome movie, then the title won't suck anymore? Nyaaaarrr!

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 3:24 a.m. CST

    ***** Dark Knight of Gotham *****

    by JDanielP

    Man...I shouldn't do this when so freakin' tired. I even fell asleep at the computer. But something appeals to me in a more understated title. --THE DARK KNIGHT "0F" GOTHAM is what I like (minus the quotation marks, of coarse).

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 3:29 a.m. CST

    But then... THE DARK KNIGHT RISES... is so cool...

    by JDanielP

    ...when/if you consider Two-Face makes a return. And Talia is an interesting idea that would have that connection to BATMAN BEGINS. --I'm actually hoping that he Nolan goes this route, if no Routh (as in Superman).

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 7:55 a.m. CST

    MattmanReturns nope the title will still suck

    by KilliK

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 8:10 a.m. CST

    No Riddler is good news (would be a rehash of Joker)

    by AsimovLives

    Not too sure about the title, though. Maybe it's just a preliminary title, like so many movies have during production.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 8:12 a.m. CST

    And no Harvey Dent, please

    by AsimovLives

    The dude is dead, deal with it. Bringing him back would ruin the emotional impact and some of the themes of the second movie.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by AsimovLives

    If you were sugesting the title "Batman Hunted", i like that. Myself i would think something like "The Fall Of Batman" would be a good title, since the story would be about Batman as a hunted criminal who has fallen from grace and popularity. And why do we fall? So that we can rise again.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST

    I never bought that Dent was dead...

    by Batguy

    It just seemed like we were led to assume that he was. I know what Nolan has said. I won't rule it out until I see the movie.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Dent is DEAD

    by Rodie

    He didn't die in a hospital so you can't show the guy flatlining. How else is Nolan supposed to show us he's dead other than falling from a great height, lying on the ground unresponsive, Batman and Gordon talking about him as if he's dead, then showing a memorial service where people are mourning his passing. I just don't see any mixed signals from Nolan. It's obvious.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Dent is not dead

    by KilliK

    unless WB has resigned Eckhart from his contract which he signed for 2 movies.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Killik

    by Rodie

    With all do respect, I think you're misunderstanding how these contracts work. They are weighted in the studio's favor, for their benefit, not the actors. In other words, Eckhart is not guaranteed a role in TDKR. But IF Nolan writes him in, then he is contractually obligated to appear as Dent for the price agreed upon back in 2007. He couldn't hold out and say "I want to renegotiate before I agree to appear." TDKR didn't even exist in any form in 2007 so WB can't "sign on" an actor and promise him a role in a film that doesn't exist.WB wouldn't do that and neither would Nolan. They just wanted the OPTION of calling him back as Dent if they so chose.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Christian Bale is the villain!

    by Snake Foreskin

    I mean, have you seen how this guy behaves? What an asshole! I have no interest in any more Nolan-Bale Batman films.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Actually Asi

    by Continentalop

    I would prefer if it was called "The Caped Crusader" but I know most people have a negative connection to that term. That's why I also don't mind the compromise "Batman: Crusade."

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Rodie since he has a contract for TWO movies and not one

    by KilliK

    that means that they already had plans for him to appear for a second movie when he signed it.otherwise what is the need to have him sign for two movies,if he was going to die by the end of the first movie,RIGHT?<br /> <br /> <p>and his "death" in TDK,as other people above pointed out,was not a last minute change in the post-production of the film,after Ledger's death.they had already shooted the whole sequence before Ledger died.<br /> <br /> <p>unless Ledger's death forced them to change completely their plans for the new movie and made 2Face's appearance irrelevant in the new sequel,i dont see any other reason that 2Face is not going to return in TDKR.<br /> <br /> <p>the sure thing is falling from a building wont stop a villain to re-appear in a comic-book movie universe.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Two-Face is dead

    by Continentalop

    Maggie Gyllenhaal is also contractually obligated to appear again but does anyone think she'll be resurrected?

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    And Nolan was never signed to a 3rd movie

    by Continentalop

    And had no idea if he wanted to return, so the studios did a smart move by contractually obligating them in case a new director wanted to use them.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 5:10 p.m. CST

    "in case a new director wanted to use them."

    by KilliK

    in other words 2Face's "death" in TDK is not confirmed until we see him or not in Batman3.that's my point from the start.<br /> <br /> <p>and as Maggie is concerned,well you have your flash-backs and your voice-over in a movie,you dont need to resurrect her to have her back.<br /> <br /> <p>in fact it wouldnt surprise me if in some other future Batman movie,Maggie's character returns.Joker had manipulated Batman to think that she was dead to torture him,but actually she was held hostage in a remote location by his goons,then she brain-washed her and let her free so that Joker could use her to discover Bats secret ID and torture him through her.<br /> <br /> <p>afterall we are talking about comic-book movie,so why the fuck not?

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    I think your stretching to make Two-Face alive

    by Continentalop

    Could Maggie and Dent be alive? Yeah it is possible but would certainly bet against it. I think the odds of those two coming back as anything other than a flashback or video is highly unlikely. Dent's arc is done; you can't add anything to his tragic story. If he comes back he'll just be a one-dimensional heavy.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 5:27 p.m. CST

    I think you're stretching to make Two-Face alive

    by Continentalop

    Could Maggie and Dent be alive? Yeah it is possible but would certainly bet against it. I think the odds of those two coming back as anything other than a flashback or video is highly unlikely. Dent's arc is done; you can't add anything to his tragic story. If he comes back he'll just be a one-dimensional heavy.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 5:51 p.m. CST

    i agree

    by KilliK

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Snake Foreskin

    by AsimovLives

    Yeah, god forbid that Christian Bale acts and talks like a human being, right? If you want to pass on all of Bale's movies, fine, but what a fucking lame ass reason you got.

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Dent is dead, that's the end of it

    by AsimovLives

    Jesus Christ, how more obvious could his death be? From the sound of the people's talk who thinkhe could be alive, only showing him cut in half would convince you. Give me a break, will you?

  • Oct. 29, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST

    I don't think Dent died...

    by Audio_of_Being

    It's quite obvious from the cues in Inception that Harvey/Two Face is trapped in limbo, with Gordon and Batman going deeper into the dream world to save him.<P>Wow, that sounds as ridiculous as every other "Dent is alive" theory!!!

  • Oct. 30, 2010, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Audio_of_Being

    by AsimovLives

    Indeed.

  • Oct. 30, 2010, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Batman 3

    by thomasJ

    Christopher Nolan's 3rd film about Batman has been given a name. "The Dark Knight Rises" can be released into theaters July 20, 2012. Reportedly, you will find surprises in store for the new movie. The <a title="Gossips travel about the newly named Dark Knight Rises" href="http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2010/10/27/dark-knight-rises/">villain for the film will not be The Riddler</a>. The movie might well contain several other surprises.

  • Oct. 30, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST

    First time I saw it, I thought Dent was alive

    by MattmanReturns

    Nolan seemed to be purposely ambiguous about it, despite what he says in interviews. I wouldn't be surprised if he's still alive. I think it's still open.

  • Nov. 1, 2010, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Two Face is the Dark Knight

    by themarshall

    Remember when Nolan said that "The Dark Knight" refers to Two-Face just as much as it did Batman? If that's the case, then "The Dark Knight Rsies" could feature Two-Face's reign of madness continuing and Batman rising as the true hero.