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What Would Husker Do?? Syfy Greenlights BSG Cylon War I Pilot Movie BLOOD & CHROME!! CAPRICA's Fate To Be Decided By Nov. 15!!

Published at: Oct. 22, 2010, 1:23 p.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules!! Syfy exec Mark Stern reveals to TV Squad’s Maureen Ryan that “Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome,” a TV-movie/backdoor pilot which follows a twentysomething Ensign William “Husker” Adama as he enters the 10-year-old first Cylon War, is expected start shooting in Vancouver early next year. Stern also said a decision on “Caprica’s” second season would be made no later than Nov. 15. Written by outer-space TV vet Michael Taylor (“Deep Space Nine,” “Voyager,” “Battlestar Galactica,” “Virtuality,” “Caprica”), the “Chrome” pilot began life as a script for a series of online webisodes but was recently upgraded, Stern tells Ryan:
"When we read Michael's script, it was so clearly a full-blown pilot for a series," Stern said in a Thursday interview. "The scope is fantastic and bigger, I think, than anticipated, so we said, 'Let's do it as a 2-hour backdoor pilot.' ... We're trying to get up and running as soon as possible."
The new series will employ virtual sets created from “high-resolution digital scans” of all the BSG sets before they were torn down, according to Ryan’s piece. It’s not certain that Nico Cortez, who briefly played the young Bill Adama in the BSG “Razor” straight-to-DVD movie, will be back for the pilot or any resulting series. Stern said a “Chrome” series might be paired with “Caprica” if the latter series lasts long enough. Find more details in Ryan’s TV Squad exclusive on the matter here.
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  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:19 p.m. CST

    at this point

    by killamajig

    I would rather they just go ahead with another season BSG proper. I'd rather see the outcome of all those foolish finale decisions then watch another muck-about for mythology's sake.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:21 p.m. CST

    please stop

    by pishowda

    let BSG die already

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Other time periods would be more interesting

    by SoupDragon

    There is much more fertile storytelling ground in focusing on life on Kobol, or the journey of the Final five, than there is in revisiting the first Cylon War. Its a time period in the BSG saga where everything major event is already laid out. (Much like the major problem with The Clone Wars animated series).

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:29 p.m. CST

    I wonder how its going to end...

    by Saen

    OH WAIT ITS A FUCKIN PREQUEL AND THEY RUINED THE FUCKIN UNIVERSE WITH THE TERRIBLE ENDING TO BSG.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:29 p.m. CST

    military science fiction

    by Himbo

    If they take the BSG back to the military SF aspects present in BSG season 1, then it would be cool. <p> Still rather see an Honor Harrington series.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Hey Herc!

    by Juggernaut125

    How about opening up the Supernatural on sale for 70% off thread to talkbacks so that people can actually talk about that show for once. Please??

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Hmmm

    by Red43jes

    They tried to convince us Caprica was going to be good...and it blew. I've been saying this is what people wanted to see, so maybe it will work this time? the fans have spoken, but are they listening?

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST

    let it die?

    by YankeesPayroll

    I don't understand comments like that... 'let it die?' give me ONE valid reason we all would be better off if this show never happens? Unbelievable...

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:35 p.m. CST

    BSG now rather Mould-y, no Hart...

    by Ookla_the_Mok

    Let him who has ears, hear over the din of the Zin Arcade

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Virtual Sets??

    by thedude2010

    So the whole frickin show is going to be shot in front of a green screen?

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:41 p.m. CST

    BSG was cool, but this is overkill.

    by fiester

    Time to move on.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Blood and Chrome(dome)!

    by chromedome

    I'm on board for this. Hope Caprica gets a chance to find its legs. A bit more content per episode, a bit faster pace and it has great promise.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:47 p.m. CST

    HOW CAN I MISS YOU IF YOU WON'T GO AWAY

    by CatVutt

    ENOUGH

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Figuers Caprica may get canned as it starts to get good.

    by joker40

    This sucks about "caprica" as the series fianlly has developed all the characters..now they want to end it...Its finally starting to move..I really hate hollywood sometimes...they did this to "Moonlight" and to a little show that the original CSI replaced on friday,,,called "Now and again" and thy shut that one down with a cliffhanger...

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Caprica will not be missed.

    by OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW

    There's a smattering of good ideas in there somewhere, including a few good performances, but the show sucks almost as hard as the BSG finale.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 2 p.m. CST

    Caprica is fucking great.

    by HoboCode

    I hope this movie doesn't shit on it.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 2:05 p.m. CST

    ENOUGH WITH THE GODDAMN PREQUELS

    by SmokingRobot

    Jesus Titty-fucking Christ, MAKE THEM STOP. WHO GIVES A SHIT???????

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 2:08 p.m. CST

    The worst ending in the history on on-screen SF

    by SmokingRobot

    http://tinyurl.com/ksq7kc

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST

    GIVE ME MY FRAKKING FINAL FIVE MINI-SERIES!!!

    by UGABugKiller

    Seriously, what the frak do we have to do to get a frakking Final Five mini-series together?<br><br>The first hour could actually be about the War on Kobol and the 13th Colony leaving a nuclear wasted former paradise for Real Earth, then time shifting to when the Skinjobs of the 13th Colony starting treating their metallic borthers as second-hand citizens, bringing their own demise.<br><br>Then the last two hours would be how the Messengers came to the Final Five to urge them to rediscover resurrection, as it would be a literal race against time before the nuclear strike we saw in episode 11 of season 4 of BSG that led to the FInal Five's resurrection and 2,000 year journey at relativistic speeds to the 12 Colonies. And then how they created the eight Skinjob Cylon models to stop the first Colonial-Cylon War.<br><br>THIS is the mini-series we WANT to see, Syfy! Please, before the actors of the Final Five are too old to play themselves. Or before you know, Dean Stockwell kicks the bucket, as he'd be VERY important in the last half-hour or so.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Michael Taylor

    by funkylovemonkey

    is a talented writer, was responsible for one of the best episodes of DS9, "The Visitor." I would be willing to give it a chance, even though I'm pretty much done with Caprica (which is a shame because it's such a talented cast that is just wasted). The concern I have isn't so much Michael Taylor's abilities (although he's unproven when it comes to running a show) but the loss of the core of the original BSG writing staff like Ron Moore, Bradley Thompson and David Weddle. There's certainly potential but I don't have faith in SyFy's ability to form a reasonable writing staff. Without that this show is dead in the water.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 2:17 p.m. CST

    SmokingRobot

    by funkylovemonkey

    Thanks for posting that link in every Caprica/BSG talkback you can find. It's good to see you can let things go. I wasn't fond of the ending either, but to call the ending the worst ending in the history of on-screen SciFi is just plain dumb. There have been much worse endings. I would rank the X-Files, Lost, Voyager, Enterprise and B5 series finales as far worse. And that's just off the top of my head.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 2:20 p.m. CST

    BSG died after season 2

    by Jeditemple

    BSG was great until after the escape from New Caprica and the destruction of the Pegasus. It was a show that I was faithful to until they starting that crap with Angel Starbuck and the Final Five. Ron Moron lost his f*cking mind and his ego was his undoing. The final two seasons and the ending were the worst in Sci-Fi history. Craprica is an abomination and was originally never meant to be a BSG story. It was adapted into a prequel. This new show Blood and Chrome comes too late it the game and yes, we know how it all ends, so who gives a f*ck.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 2:28 p.m. CST

    All of you haters of the BSG Series Finale...

    by UGABugKiller

    ... can suck a giant cock.<br><br>Number 1: WHAT FUCKING SHOW DO YOU THINK YOU WERE WATCHING???<br><br>Seriously, what fucking show do you think you were watching? From the MINI-SERIES... the very BEGINNING of the show, the Messengers/Angels were a HUGE part of the plot.<br><br>In the seminal episode Home, Part 2 (which was originally supposed to end season 1), Angel Six TELLS Baltar she is an ANGEL OF GOD sent to see mankind to their end.<br><br>So I ask again: WHAT FUCKING SHOW DO YOU THINK YOU WERE WATCHING???<br><br>All you bitches crying Deus ex Machina were NOT paying attention from the word go, so your retarded complains have NO validity.<br><br>The show was ALWAYS about relgion AND technology, and how those two forces are often at war with each other.<br><br>Go eat cock you stupid fucks like Smoking Robot. I'm sick and tired of you uninformed, unintelligent, and just plain bullshit complaints of how the show ended.<br><br>By the way, it ended PERFECTLY. The cycle of time. The cycle of history. The show, unlike you stupid fucks, stayed true to its purpose and its story and its characters. It's YOU whiny fucks who lost your way because you can't comprehend a science ficition show that dares to admit that technology isn't the be-all-end-all, and that maybe, just maybe, there IS a divine power in the Universe, or a higher power, that has an interest in humanity.<br><br>You stupid fucks have no problem if this power is called Q. But call it God, or call it religion, and your anti-religious prejudices come out of the woodwork like a former English professor of mine who is a committed atheist who too couldn't abide the idea that God or some higher power existed in the BSG universe.<br><br>THAT, people, is bigotry.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST

    I agree with expert40

    by OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW

    It was a terrible ending.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST

    They Are Raping This Series

    by Crow3711

    Prequels are only good if they inform on something necessary. The first cylon war is an important footnote in the history of bsg, an extremely important footnote. But there is no series there. There is a war, then the cylons leave eventually. Because the final 5 tell them to, sure, but still, where's the story? What's the point? I'll always know how it ends, it has no possibility of changing the way I view the real series or recontextualizing anything in it, thus....no point. Just the empty raping of a story. It happened in the story, so instead of just letting it be, they want to show it to us, just because they can. Because it'll get a few fans suckered into it. There's nothing more, and I find that very sad. So unnecessary

  • I remember that line...just thought it might be of use in this talkback....

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST

    BRING ON SINGER'S BSG!

    by HellKing

    So Moore and Ick's version is forgotten.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 3:14 p.m. CST

    I agree with expert40...

    by Billyeveryteen

    That ending sucked.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Where are all the liberal haters!

    by HellKing

    Basically the Cylons are Christians. Aren't you guys offended that they would portray you as evil terrorists and genocidal maniacs?

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Ewwww Digital scans?

    by RainesMaker

    could look like ass... just rebuild the damn set.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST

    expert40

    by pushthebuttonmax

    THANK YOU!! It was so obvious what the show was about, and yet all of these fucktards STILL whine about the ending. And why the hell would you guys want BSG to die? They're bringing us a series that has the elements that all you fatties complained Caprica didn't! I mean what gives. The only thing I don't like about this announcement is using scans of the old sets. It's gonna look cheap as hell.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST

    expert40

    by SmokingRobot

    Up yur dosage.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    HUSKER

    by Hotspur_H4P1

    Why on God's Green Earth would they not still know if the same actor will continue in the role. That Cortez guy was all kinds of awesome in the RAZOR FLASHBACKS. Even EJO in an article a month ago said, "He was great. He should just continue in the role". Better be Cortez!

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Perfect ending

    by Simpsonian

    because it was never that great to begin with. O V E R - R A T E D

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST

    When is The last Time Anyone Watched the Miniseries?

    by Crow3711

    From the very beginning? Because I did. Last week. And they must mention god having a plan from the first or second scene. It's PREPOSTEROUS for anyone to say the ending of battlestar didn't fit the show. The whole show, every episode, is about god, faith, and his plan. It makes so much sense head six is an angel from the start it's crazy. Honestly, impressive. It's so, sooo good to watch a second time. So fucking good

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Caprica

    by tonystark10

    I guess I'm going to be the lone voice of dissent here, but I've been thoroughly unimpressed with "Caprica" thus far. The premise allows them to focus on some interesting subjects: artificial intelligence, the meaning of life, terrorism, religion etc. - but in every instance the producers seem to choose the least compelling way to explore those themes. The counter-terrorism is a perfect example, that should be gripping like MI-5/Spooks - but it's completely wasted. The narrative seems wildly unfocused - it's all just kind of..well...lame. They'd created a rich universe to explore, but thus far "Caprica" has been very underwhelming. P.S. The original BSG ending, the first hour was FANTASTIC, the second hour...not so much: "Starbuck is an angel." Arrggghh.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST

    More Caprica

    by tonystark10

    Sorry, one last point. Do you remember the BSG episode "33"? It was compelling storytelling. You were on the edge of your seat the whole time, and when it was over - you felt like you absolutely had to watch again next week to see what happens. I've never felt anything even remotely like that while watching "Caprica". IMHO the only genre show on tv right now capable of evoking a similar emotional response (to BSG's "33") is "Fringe". Caprica doesn't come close.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST

    I had no problem

    by Lucidz

    With starbuck being an angel. I loved the ending.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Virtual Sets, it's because it's a pilot

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    Doesn't make sense to build the sets until you actually are greenlit for a series. That actually was probably a pretty clever idea of them (reuse the old designs, but "new-ize" them digitially as a proof of concept before actually spending the cash to build them).

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST

    BSG Ending

    by tonystark10

    Having said that about the BSG ending, it didn't bother me anywhere nearly as much as the "Lost" finale (and final season). That set the standard for bad season finales. It was horrible for so many reasons I don't even have the time or patience to go into them. I actually can't watch re-runs - because I think about where it's all leading - and I get annoyed just thinking about it. Seasons 3, 4 & 5 were good. You can keep the rest. In fact, now that I think about it - by comparison I really didn't have that big of a problem with the BSG ending. lol

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 4:39 p.m. CST

    An Alternative Idea

    by Karuma

    SoupDragon has it correct. Other time periods would be more interesting, like, for example, 250 years into our own future, when scientists have made the hybrid connection and mankind has again made the Cylon mistake. This time, however, they win. They don't drive us from Earth, but they do have dominion over us. However, a small band of Rebels........

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    33 was Basically The Pilot After the Miniseries

    by Crow3711

    And it's also probably my second or third favorite episode of the entire series. Just a fucking impressive display of storytelling through character driven narrative while highlighted by insurmountable odds, a ticking clock, and the breaking point of the human spirit/mind. It's pretty much the perfect episode of bsg. Good call tonystark. I'm also a huge fan of the boxing episode that deals mostly with Apollo and starvuck. That was impressive, tight storytelling, all about character, and contains no colons at all from what I remember. Maybe my single favorite episode of the series

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 4:49 p.m. CST

    You BSG finale Apologetics need to smell the shit

    by Saen

    Like anyone believed the Cylon threat was gone. Like they didnt have more ships out there. Like a majority of the survivors would want to go live like savages on some planet. Like anyone would want to give up their ship. None of that shit made any sense and they just threw some angel garbage in to try and do that. But they failed. They completely failed and ruined BSG worse then the ending to Marky Marks Planets of the Apes did to that movie.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Expert 40 You're dead wrong.

    by Walterego

    The ending was a complete reversal and betrayal of the story and characters of the original mini series and the series as it began. The show was not about a benevolent and guiding religion when it started, the Cylons' monotheistic god was an analogy for radical islam and the cylons were analogous to psychotic religious fanaticism twisted to genocidal purposes such as Al Qaeda's ideology, not the squishy unitarian hippy spiritualism of BSG's final season. The colonists' polytheism was analogous to the religious tolerance of democratic western society in contrast to the theocratic sectarian terror of jihadism. "Angel" Six was a manifestation of Baltar's madness, guilt and folly. She was a projection of the inherent malevolence of the cylons and their warped religious fanaticism. The destruction of humanity's home words and most of the population was a dramatic reference to 9/11 and the fear, desperation and paranoia of the Galactica was a reference to the emotions of Post 9/11 America. BSG did a 180 and betrayed all that had been established because the show's creator was unwilling to be a sci-fi equivalent of 24, which flew in the face of the humanist liberal-progressive philosophy of Star Trek where he got his start. Moore had to wimp out and humanize the cylons from genocidal maniacs into nice guys who just need a hug. And in the end the colonists' polytheism was wrong and the cylons' monotheistic one true god was real. Which is dandy until you realize that the implication to our world is that we should all start praying to Allah and adopt Sharia. The more the show got away from the cylons being the bad guys and their god being the true higher power guiding the destiny of the characters the more muddled the and inconsistent the show got. And don't think I just can't handle moral relativity in tv shows, I love Breaking Bad and The Shield where the "heroes" have done truly terrible things. But those shows started with their characters that way, and then simply turned up the heat. BSG started one way with the cylons as a cross between the Borg and Bin Laden, and ended up a whole other way with Adama and Galactica going on a completely pointless suicide mission to save one little girl who is half toaster.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Please stop already

    by DarthJedi

    this franchise jumped the shark back in the final episode. Worse case of regret for show I've ever had. Just let it die already.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Consider how Six is portrayed in the finale

    by Walterego

    Six is shown in flashbacks in the finale caring for Baltar's aging father just prior to the destruction of Caprica. But in the original miniseries Six was a complete psycho, strolling around Caprica crushing the necks of little babies just for fun. How are those two completely different characterizations of the exact same cylon in any way consistent?

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 5:10 p.m. CST

    This is a good thing...

    by NoHubris

    ...as long as CHROME delves into some of the key parts of the BSG universe that we came to know - as opposed to proceeding as if such aspects are not part of the lore.<p>For example, Hybrids, visits to the Cylon homeworld (hat tip to Chromedome) and periodic appearances of Baltar and Caprica In-Heads would welcome IMHO.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Doing a Husker show is a mistake.

    by Voice O. Reason

    The war had already been going on for 10 years by the time he became a Viper pilot. He didn't even fly his first combat mission until the final day of the war!

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Walterego... YOU'RE WRONG

    by UGABugKiller

    Again, in the episode that was the ORIGINAL season finale to season 1 (it was written and in pre-production when SciFi decided to only do 13 eps), which is Home, Part 2, Angel Six tells Baltar,<br><br> "I AM AN ANGEL OF GOD SENT TO GUIDE YOU."<br><br>Baltar replies, "To what end?"<br><br>Angel Six replies, "To mankind's end."<br><br>What you REFUSE to understand is that the divine presence (you KNOW it doesn't like to be called God) was there all along. The Cylons CHOSE to take the idea of a loving monotheistic God and turn It into a God of Vengeance, much like some Christians chose to, or how some Muslims chose to.<br><br>THAT is what you refuse to understand. THAT is why "God" sent the Messengers (as their called on BattlestarWiki) to Baltar and Six to help those two characters try and correct the mistakes made that led to the destruction of the Colonies and most of humankind.<br><br>WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND FOR SOME OF YOU PEOPLE???<br><br>It's the SAME frakking argument I get into with atheists all the frakking time!<br><br>It's NOT the religion (usually) dummies. It's the INDIVIDUALS that pervert the religious ideals.<br><br>Whether they be Cylon or Human, individuals are ALWAYS going to find a way to justify their selfish or violent actions in same way. Some people CHOSE religion to justify their evil actions. That doesn't make religion fucked up. It makes PEOPLE fucked uo.<br><br>And where do you get half your crap? NOWHERE in the show was it shown or said that the polytheism was "wrong," aside from Angel Six. We still have no clue who, or what, the Lords of Kobol were. My guess is that they were the first humans who invented resurrections (that Zoe would re-invent, and the Final Five would re-invent) and had their souls downloaded into Cylon bodies, making them "seem" divine.<br><br>Regardless, Walterego, you really have no clue what you were watching. Just because something seems to be some way, doesn't necessarily means it IS that way once we learn motivations or the choices behind decisions, etc, etc. That's called plot and character development.<br><br>God, faith, religion, technology... it ALL fits with the 9/11 analogy that began the series, and yes, the series evolved to show other aspects of humanity, too... like insurgency, like our need for vengeance, like our ability to forgive... Dude, seriously, drop YOUR personal biases, YOUR personal hang-ups about where YOU wanted the show to go, and understand what you were watching. You may be surprised.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 5:15 p.m. CST

    BSG Ending was out of character

    by FrodoFraggins

    The show was never about absolute proof of a higher being. One of the nice things about the series was the fact that there were multiple faiths and the writers felt no need to push one as more correct. that is until the final 10 minutes of the finale.<br><br> Count me as one of the viewers that would have preferred a more ambiguous ending. It would have been perfect if the finale ended with Adama on his hill.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 5:23 p.m. CST

    @Walterego on snapping the necks of babies

    by jeffv

    I think I remember this from an interview, not the show, but they retconned an explanation for the contradiction of having Caprica Six be a carrying almost-human and yet snapping the baby's neck at seeming random. It was allgedly supposed to be a mercy kill: she thought it would be quicker and less painful than burning in the attack. I think this actually came from an interview with Tricia Helfer, though, so take it for what it's worth.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 5:28 p.m. CST

    SHE SPARED THE CHILD FROM THE NUKES YOU MORON...

    by UGABugKiller

    I mean, come the fuck on!<br><br>The look of sadness on her face when she decided to do it?<br><br>She didn't kill the kid because she was "psycho" as you say. She killed the kid to SPARE IT FROM NUCLEAR DESTRUCTION.<br><br>Also, juding from your comments, I understand you're not very intelligent, but didn't ever occur to you that the reason WHY she took care of Baltar's father was so Baltar wouldn't toss her away as quickly as he would do all of his other conquests... so she could complete her mission???<br><br>God, dude, you are SO FUCKING DENSE.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 5:34 p.m. CST

    I actually think this sounds great.

    by Rebel Scumb

    But then I really like Caprica, and the BSG finale, so what do I know! Not that BSG was perfect, but its mainly the 3rd season I don`t like.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Serious rationalization from Exert40

    by Walterego

    She "spared" the baby? You can't possibly be so stupid as to believe what you just wrote, you must be in deep deep denial. Cylon Six crushed its throat the way one squashes a bug. Her face was one of curiosity about how weak human bodies are mixed with enjoyment of taking a human life. She even made a comment gloating about how fragile humans are in the scene. Secondly, are you saying she had no concern for Baltar's father, she was just cynically manipulating his emotions in order to complete her mission of exterminating all humanity (wiping out mankind being The Plan of the cylons)? That wasn't how it was portrayed in the final season. She was portrayed as acting out of compassion towards Baltar's father as well as her plan, and her character was clearly completely devoid of empathy in the original miniseries.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Final Five

    by TheHumanBeingAndFish

    A live-action miniseries version of the Final Five comic books would be awesome. Start at Kobol with Pythia, the exodus of the 13th tribe, etc.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Pass. They've milked the lifeblood out of BSG already

    by JT Kirk

    That portion of Razor was so over the top silliness that it made Adama seem like a superman. He was in the Battle of Britain and Iwo Jima too, at this point.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 6 p.m. CST

    Jeffv, Braindrain

    by Walterego

    Retconning is just spin talk for the show's writers making up total bullshit in order to ham fistedly explain obvious screwups. Six doesn't demonstrate any empathy or pity towards humanity at that point, she behaves just like a sociopathic jihadist. Cavill didn't order Six to kill the baby, she did it out of idle amusement.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Watching BSG through netflix

    by Turingtestee

    The from the start of New Caprica on the show seems to be refocusing towards the controversial ending. With VERY few exceptions, the theosophical differences between the cylons and the colonists arent really played with at all. Starting to suck a little.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Expert40 is right about the baby and the nukes

    by Crow3711

    I also saw it as a completely pitiful act of (admittedly, twisted) kindness. She saved the baby from dying a much more horrible death. I didn't get the impression she enjoyed it or did it for sociopathic cylon nastiness. It was pity. I don't think that's a rationalization of a stupid person at all. It's on the screen

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 6:30 p.m. CST

    nice

    by _Venkman

    cant wait

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Walterego is not watching the same show

    by UGABugKiller

    WHERE on her face, or in Caprica Six's make-up as a character has SHE ever been psychotic or twisted or ANY of this bullshit that you are attributing to HER.<br><br>CAPRICA SIX has NEVER shown any of those qualities, dude. Seriously, WHAT FRAKKING SHOW ARE YOU WATCHING???<br><br>Every time you write more, you just invalidate more and more of your arguments which are based not in fact of the reality of the show, but in your own personal biases and prejudices AIMED at the reality of the show.<br><br>WHAT FRAKKING SHOW ARE YOU WATCHING???<br><br>Because I hate to tell you, it's NOT BSG.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 7:30 p.m. CST

    come on

    by Darktower19

    Much like Indy 4, I'm acting as if Craprica and this sure-to-be-abominable abortion never happened. My memories of BSG remain pure!

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 7:57 p.m. CST

    I too liked the BSG ending and Caprica.

    by Chain

    but I don't agree that Six killed the baby out of mercy. I think a lot of the story was her and Gaius' and really most of the rest of the cast(hell both races) changing in attitude and realizing they were more alike than different. And learning to care for and love one another. One of the biggest examples was Six's self sacrifice to save a person who treated her badly. The journey was as much a change in attitude for both sides as it was a traverse across space.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 8 p.m. CST

    Tonights Smallville was another good one!!

    by Acid_Frio

    from the notion of Black Adam...to the final 5 minutes of the episode. just hitting all the right spots.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Caprica is too sophisticated for a mass audience

    by DARTH VOODOO

    People want to see robots crushing each other rather than well written/thoughtful sci-fi. The program is almost too sophisticated for it's own good

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Why does Sci-Fi bury Caprica at 10pm on Tuesday nights?

    by DARTH VOODOO

    Can anyone explain to me why Sci-Fi continues to bury the best programs (BSG,Caprica)that they ever had at 10pm? Wouldn't they hit more of a mass audience at an earlier time?

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Noob40 did you even watch the miniseries?

    by Walterego

    Did you do a lot of drugs since 2003? Your memory of Six is totally wrong. Caprica Six was portrayed as an ice cold killer throughout the 2003 miniseries. She's a classic femme fatale. She comments how vulnerable the baby's neck is and then crunch, no remorse. She shows absolutely no remorse when she is revealing the genocide about to be unleashed to Baltar. She exhibits a perverse satisfaction in the imminent extermination of all mankind. The Six on the space station in the opening scene, the Head Six, and Caprica Six are all indistinguishable in personality. It is only much later when the writers start contriving remorse and conflicting emotions in the cylons that Head Six and the other Sixes start behaving differently. Which is a real collapse of continuity between the final season's flashback scenes and the miniseries.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 8:23 p.m. CST

    BLOOD & CHROME? That's a joke title, right?

    by Bob Cryptonight

    Jesus. But then, maybe it will be sort of a spoof??

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 8:27 p.m. CST

    The Plan was in my opinion very dissappointing

    by Rebel Scumb

    It focused on all the wrong stuff, I would of rather it was about the final 5, as someone suggested thats a story that would be cool to explore, they should hurry up and shoot it now while all the actors are still young enough. I'd also be okay with a sequel series set in our modern day with the cylon centurions coming back, a sort of galactica 1980 done properly. Earth's nations join together and build a space battleship to defend the earth, call it the galactica. All of this has happened before, all of it will happen again, yadda yadda yadda.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST

    I do hope they do get the same young adama back from Razor

    by Rebel Scumb

    That guy did a spot on Edward James Olmos.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST

    @Acid_Frio: A decent episode, but not great

    by cookepuss

    I called it in the last Smallville thread. The whole cheesy & overplayed possession device fell limp. Smallville has done it one too many times already and to better effect. The resolution was too quick & without any impact, apart from convincing Clark to tell Lois. Realistically, they should've cut out either the Cat sub-plot or the Tess one. I'd have kept the Cat thread for a little comedic effect & put the Tess story into an episode of its own. They were just juggling too many things this ep. I never once felt that the undead may rise and Hell would wash over Earth. There was no conflict. Not at all. <p> <p> I also didn't buy Ollie suddenly seeing the light because we never really got shown him getting full of himself. Certainly not in any Tony Stark sense, which is what they were going for & failed to illustrate. <p> <p> On the plus side, the cat's out of the bag between Clark & Lois. The Black Adam reference was nice, as was the "Mighty Isis" nod to the old TV show. I also liked the genuine affection showed for Alexander by Tess. It was a nice moment in itself.<p> <p> Some of the logic in this episode was faulty. Even for Smallville. I also didn't buy how, one minute, Clark is vulnerable to magic, as he should be, and totally NOT the next moment. Weak storytelling. It should've been Ollie, the mere human, to save his bacon. It also didn't make sense that Clark would save Cat from Isis when he would've just removed Isis from the scene. It just makes Clark look stupid, as does letting Isis just fly away. We saw him fly briefly under Kara's tutelage. We saw him float last week. Now, with Lois, the love of his life at stake, he just lets her possessed body fly away? Not buying it. <p> <p> They got the little things right, but sorta missed the bigger, broader strokes of the episode. Kind of a formulaic Smallville episode, really. Like I anticipated in the other thread, this was a noticeable dip over 200. Sort of a C+ epsiode really. B- if I'm drunk & generous.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 8:40 p.m. CST

    The only problem I had with the BSG finale...

    by Rebel Scumb

    Was that we didn't get starbuck and apollo back in the vipers one last time for the final battle, instead they were on foot with the other soldiers. its not a big deal, but the two of them as hotshot pilots is an iconic part of how the show starts, so it would of been a nice return at the end. For the record I'm agnostic, and anti-religon of every kind. But I don't mind the spiritual aspects in LOST or BSG, you may not like the ending of BSG, but its true that the spiritual/angels stuff was foreshadowed from very early in the series, sometime during season 1 I believe. Likewise with LOST.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 8:48 p.m. CST

    "She comments how vulnerable the baby's neck is and then crunch,

    by Alientoast

    I disagree. She didn't look too pleased when it happened, like she was surprised. Anyways, this new movie/pilot could VERY easily fit in the final 5. Don't forget they showed up in the Colonies during Cylon War I. It would be a simple thing to introduce them and said plot lines, including the skin jobs, etc.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Chain, a man after me'wn 'art!

    by UGABugKiller

    Seriously, though, everyone shitting on Caprica, and I'll be the first to admit it's a mess that really hasn't focused on it's best aspects (Sam and Joe's ruthlessness, Daniel's particular genius), instead wallowing the malaise of guilt from the terrorist bombing (which actually may be the point, come to think of it).<br><br>But even given all that, there IS hope from Zoe's "invention" of resurrection, which was actually invented on Kobol (possibly to create 12 regular humans as the "divine" and immortal "Lords of Kobol") and then re-invented by the Final Five before their 2000 year journey at relativistic speeds to the Colonies.<br><br>Think about a few things and a few of the characters we've seen in this show, and what they could possibly become (i.e. as resurrected Cylons).<br><br>The seven Skinjobs all claim to have souls (well, Cavil doesn't, but still). They all believe they are God's Children. What if, in the course of all this, Eight characters from this show wind up being the "souls" (copies) for the skinjobs?<br><br>Think about it: we already see SOME characteristics that are similar, no?<br><br>Think about D'Anna, and her Messiah Complex, and her need to be in control and lead the Cylons. Who does that remind you of? Clarice, right?<br><br>What about Zoe, who is an actual true believer as well as someone visited by God's Messenger. Who does that remind you of? Six, right?<br><br>Then you have Tamra, who seems the most human of all the characters, and as a Cylon "Soul" would be the most human and the most fallible. Who does that describe? The Eights.<br><br>Daniel, I'm guessing, would of course be the unseen and destroyed Sevens...<br><br>Now, this could all be total bullshit, but NOTHING in a show like BSG or Caprica is done without meaning. There's a reason why some of these characters on Caprica are similar to the Cylon Skinjobs we already know and love.<br><br>Or at least I hope there's a reason. Because otherwise, Caprica is just a frakking mess.<br><br>BTW... to explain why those copied souls don't remember being Zoe Grayston or Clarice Willow, well, it would make sense that in their Cylon Centurion shells, they would ask the Final Five to remove certain memories (as Cavil would then do to the Five) of them ever being human before being downloaded into their Skinjob bodies; for their own sanity and happiness.<br><br>And another BTW... Tamra Adams being the template for the souls of the Eights would go a long way in explaining first Boomer and then Athena's loyalty to Adama, as well as his own fondness for that particular model of Cylon, on a purely metaphysical or subconscious level, of course (kind of like in an Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind kind of way).

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 9:02 p.m. CST

    @Walterego, BrainDead

    by jeffv

    Waltergo: Never suggested retcon was a good thing. In fact, I chose the word because I, too, did not get the slightest inkling that it was a mercy kill from the scene itself. I wish I could find the interview, because I'm pretty sure Tricia Helfer said in it that she didn't either, and had to reconcile it afterwards. <p> BrainDead: I've never looked at a DVDs. I've never looked at a podcast. I watched it when it aired. If the story isn't in the show itself and you need commentaries to make sense of it, then they failed to tell it correctly.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Correction

    by jeffv

    http://tv.ign.com/articles/756/756477p2.html<p>She says she reconciled it before doing the scene.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 9:20 p.m. CST

    BSG Colon War

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    FAAAAAARRRRRRRRRTTTTTT!

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 9:27 p.m. CST

    virtual sets can work if done right

    by Bouncy X

    while the show itself sucks, Sanctuary actually looks good for a green screen show. its not always distractingly obvious. but even when its obvious, its done well enough to get passed and accept it.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Caprica is impressive

    by GreatCzarsGhost

    Big story with lots of twists and turns. Great charaters and tons of behind the seans

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 9:52 p.m. CST

    There was a lot of retconning along the way.

    by Rebel Scumb

    That much is pretty clear. I would of prefered Adama had died from getting shot by Boomer at the end of season 1 (what a great moment). Then after Tigh is removed, have Apollo become the commander, and put starbuck as commander of the pegasus (and don't blow it up). I also think Rosalin should of died from her cancer in season 2, instead of being cured. They ruined her character after that anyways. But the angels and stuff are not a retcon in my mind. I don't for a minute suppose they (or anything else) was planned from the beginning. But I think they paid that inhead baltar/six resurrected Starbuck well.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Caprica is a prequel done properly.

    by Rebel Scumb

    Because it doesn't give away any of the twists of BSG. You could start with Caprica and not have the BSG expirenced ruined at all. Plus since it fleshes out life in the 12 colonies so much more then BSG ever did, that opening nuclear assualt in the miniseries feels 100 times more devastating after having seen that culture at its peak in Caprica. The starwars prequels, and other prequels often go for a lot of wink of the eye, reverse hindsight irony like "oh anakin, you'll be the death of me" that is really irritating. Caprica could be doing that all the time, but it never does. It focuses just on being a good and unique scifi show.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 10:20 p.m. CST

    I liked the ending of BSG

    by _Venkman

    But then again I watched the entire show from beginning to end earlier this year knowing that God had something to do with the ending.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Braindrain, infanticide by a psycho cylon

    by Walterego

    is entirely in character for the show as it started. It's only out of character with the later seasons, which I would say were the weaker seasons in which the show jumped the shark. In that antagonists who had been established as an inherent threat to humanity, a fanatic swarm of robot homicidal maniacs, were turned into ethically complex sensitive beings many of whom the audience was meant to empathize with. The scene of Six casually snuffing a baby was written for shock value, and it fits perfectly with the miniseries' opening scene of a Six sadistically toying with the diplomat on the space station before he is coldly blown up. That opening sets the tone of the show and defines the cylons' attitude towards humanity as a bug that needs stomping.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Expert40 is my new hero...

    by HotPont

    Seriously; I've never agreed with somebody as much in my life. The BSG finale was spot-on perfect; I'm just disappointed that the show couldn't muster a more intelligent audience to see this as a whole. If you really want to see something that's actually bad, watch the Lost finale. (It made me feel embarrassed for watching the show for 6 meaningless seasons) Hopefully Caprica lasts long enough to tie into the new series; keep the canon going 'n shit...

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 11:45 p.m. CST

    God and Battlestar

    by funkylovemonkey

    It was obviously a major theme from the beginning. In 33 you have HeadSix screaming at Baltar that he needs to repent of his sins and turn to god. The same thing happened several episodes later in Six Degrees of Separation with the scene of Baltar kneeling and praying for forgiveness in the brig; the entire episode is one big mind-fuck to push Baltar to that point. Again a few episodes later in The Hand of God, Baltar picks a random spot on the Cylon base as their primary target which turns out to be correct and Six explains it's because he is God's instrument. The thing is it's pretty obvious going back that neither the Cylons nor Humanity had any clue what they were talking about when it came to Gods or God, and whatever it was that sent the messengers had an agenda that neither side really suspected at all. I think it's important to note that no one saw the messengers until AFTER the apocalypse, which means it was entirely of their own doing. The manipulation that happens after is only to bring the two civilizations together. I think too many people are hung up on the concept that Moore was speaking of a Judeo-Christian God in the last episode. I don't see any evidence of that at all. Just because there turns out to be a singular god doesn't mean that the Cylons were any closer to the truth then the colonials. The god that is shown isn't the loving god Baltar talks about and didn't create the cylons as punishment for humanity's sins. Instead he/she/it sits back and just applies pressure here and there to move the two sides together in hopes that this time the cycle won't be repeated. What's interesting is that it suggests that what is revealed as god isn't all knowing or all powerful at all.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 11:55 p.m. CST

    love the way you think, funkylovemonkey

    by UGABugKiller

    ... but to amend your last:<br><br>I think it's less God isn't all knowing or all powerful (which I still think this God would be), it's that God CHOOSES to let free will of the humans and the Cylons, of the individual, lets say, have paramount value of His/Her machinations.<br><br>Kind of like the old saying, "God only helps those who help themselves."<br><br>I found it really interesting that a Messenger was sent to Zoe to help guide her to create resurrection.<br><br>But what if THIS Angel Zoe wasn't really an Angel, as Six claimed to be, but a Demon sent perhaps by the jealous Lord of Kobol who sought to set himself above all others and caused the original War of man and machine?<br><br>See... I love the richness that the metaphysical can bring to a science fiction story. Or the idea of the metaphysical. Shit, the BSG "God" could maybe be just an advanced being with no real power what-so-ever, though that doesn't really seem to be the case, but He/She could be that, and It just has interest in seeing if humanity can overcome its failings. Who knows?<br><br>But it's those kind of thoughts and questions that not only make the BSG Universe so rich and diverse when compared to most other science fiction universes, but makes BSG all the more relatable to us.<br><br>Which is all the more frustrating for people who don't get it, or whom a prejudiced against religion or those who believe in religion or God, and can't get past their own biases.

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 11:56 p.m. CST

    Expert40 is my new hero..

    by Simpsonian

    if I ever take a shit and need to convince people it smells great, he's my man!

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Wah wah wah

    by donkey_lasher

    I'm a whiny nerd who didn't get the ending of BSG (or didn't have the fucking brains to interpret it as anything other as "God did it"<p> Wah wah wah

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 3:44 a.m. CST

    Caprica got cancelled?

    by donkey_lasher

    Erm

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Expert40!!

    by donkey_lasher

    Brilliant! <P> I wish AICN was here when Quantum Leap ended.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Caprica wrap up

    by Rebel Scumb

    I would be fine with a mini season or tv movie that wraps up the characters and segues into the war starting and sets up the new blood & chrome series.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 7:37 a.m. CST

    i just watched the bsg pilot for the first time recently

    by mynamesdan

    and i thought she snapped the baby neck by accident

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Ive not seen thelatest

    by donkey_lasher

    Caprica. But I am liking it now. The first few episodes were a bit of a struggle to get through, but now the characters are fleshed out a bit, and we know the sub plots, it's actually pretty damn good!

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Can we please stop using the phrase "backdoor pilot"

    by nostairway

    It sounds like something Clay Aiken would rent on Pay per view.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 8:27 a.m. CST

    who cares

    by Out of your element

    I loved the series, thought the finale was great (though if they had another plotline after that, like the evil Cylons trying to destroy Earth or something that would have been cool) but the fact is you shouldnt let the distaste of the final episode ruin your perception of an entire show. There were some great seasons, great characters and some of the best battles in any SF medium. Might have gotten a bit uneven towards the end a bit, but it was NOT nearly as terrible and offensive as the last two seasons of the show referred to as LOST. Now THAT was a shit-tastic finale. Props to expert 40.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Expert 40

    by Horgy

    I do like your idea for the Final Five miniseries. I think it would be very interesting to see the origins of some of the other skinjob designs, too. We know that Cavill was made to look like Ellen's father, but am I the only one who thinks Six is made to look like a younger Ellen? And what about Daniel?<p> Am I the only one who thinks "Blood and Chrome" sounds like a driver's-ed movie?

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    We're still on Season One of Caprica?

    by Inexplicable_Nuclear_Balls

    Feels like this show has been on the air for years. So stupid to break it up like they do.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST

    What would Husker Du?

    by Generalcatburd

    I'll watch anything with BSG in the title because I can't let go of the series. I know it all became nonsensical (especially "The Plan"). But I need a fix and Caprica doesn't do it for me. I got 10 episodes sitting on DVR and no desire to watch.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST

    and can't figure out for the life of me

    by Generalcatburd

    why I find Alessandra Torresani so friggin' sexy

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Sina Najafi is "Husker" Adama

    by Nem_Wan

    Caprica has to keep going long enough for him to age into the role.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Caprica

    by InActionMan

    If it is going in the direction I think it is the origin of the Cylons is going to be very disappointing. <P> The season looks to finish out with Sister Clarice getting Zoe's program and using it to upload the consciences of a bunch on Soldiers of the One religious fanatics into Cylon bodies which starts the war. <P> I would much rather see a "Frankenstein" inspired story that plays off the ideas in the final montage of BSG. What is the responsibility of man to his creation when he plays God and creates life? <P> A story about used and abused Cylons evolving sentience and revolting would be a much more interesting story in my opinion.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 11:25 a.m. CST

    InActionMan, what if...

    by UGABugKiller

    ... it's NOT Clarice and the STO who WILLINGLY download themselves into the Cylons?<br><br>What if it is Daniel who, knowing that it was Zoe's consciousness that gave the Cylon Centurion TRUE sentience, along with the police detective, created a plan to kill all the STO members, but Daniel double-crossed him and took their downloaded "souls" to put into his machines to "save" his company from going under?<br><br>Thus, not only is Daniel the architect of mankind's doom, he is also the true villain of at least the Colonial saga (because of the Cycle of Time, it seems that on Kobol that perhaps Humans willingly downloaded their essences into Cylon bodies to become the 12 immortal and "devine" Lords of Kobol (guessing) and perhaps the War on Kobol was humans fighting their machine overlords and forcing THEM to leave to find Earth... ooh, GREAT idea!).<br><br>That's why I kind of like where Caprica is going, it's just unfortunate that Jane Espensen, who is usually fantastic, took far too long to get here.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    I hate to say this but...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...this reeks of minor desperation; an attempt draw viewers back and revisit the BSG universe in a way that CAPRICA has failed to do (a beloved character, action, and dogfights in outer space).<P>Conceptually, I admire what CAPRICA has tried to do. However, it just doesn't feel connected to the events of BSG...and the first half-season was rather tepid and inconsistent. Frankly, that's not a good way to kick-off your new flagship show. (Rushing the second half-season out of start date limbo with little-to-no fanfare didn't bode well either.)<P>I suppose I could say that I would love to see the further adventures of William "Husker" Adama in the first Cylon War. But in hindsight, that seems like something that should have been incorporated into CAPRICA.<P>I won't be surprised if CAPRICA is cancelled...I guess we'll have to wait until November 15th to know for sure.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Back when BSG was on, everyone was screaming for a first cylon w

    by Rebel Scumb

    Now that we're actually getting one, everyone is complaining. I just don't understand all the negativity. If you feel so burned by LOST and BSG, why continue to discuss them. I use to watch heroes, but when it got bad I stopped watching it and haven't really put any thought towards it since.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    bye caprica and your 0.2 rating

    by palewook

    with this new pilot, syfy will get a bsg series without Moore at the helm. and with sets, the entire thing will be done with green screens (like sanctuary). <p> syfy getting a bsg show with much lower overhead or keeping an under-performing caprica for 2-4x the cost...

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Don't care about this

    by theGoldbergV

    I love BSG and the ending. The only out and out "bad" episodes are in the last half of season 3 (well besides that shocking "Deadlocked" ep from near the end that is). I don't have a problem with the ending, and I'm not religious in any sense, I think it remains true to the religious themes there from the beginning. <p><P>THAT SAID, this sounds like a really bad idea. How can you base a whole series on Adama in the war when we know his whole war was ONE BATTLE?! I sense more sloppy retcons ala The Plan on the way. <P><P>As for Caprica, its mildly interesting but I'll not care when it gets cancelled

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 1:14 p.m. CST

    THIS IS ONLY GOOD NEWS

    by ForgetfulPete

    The best possible outcome will be for the movie to get the go-ahead and CAPRICA to sink into cancellation. The most likely outcome of this pair of events would be that the movie would get halted and shut down before it even starts shooting and then we'd be free of any actual science fiction or fantasy on SYFY. That is, I suspect, the plan the people behind the network have, since they were very vocal in their change from SCIFI to SYFY that they were trying to completely abandon all science-fiction/fantasy programming (due to you know low ratings because nobody on Earth except stinking genre fans watches this kind of "television") and replace it with repeats of DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES and LAW AND ORDER. That was the actual real plan, which has been taking a sad amount of time to come true. I really do long for the day when television's lack of programming of sci-fi fantasy leads to all the geeks having to take a shower, get a job and brush their teeth instead of sustaining off a DR WHO marathon and a wheelbarrow full of burritos. That will be the day when the sun shines brighter on this green Earth of ours! LET'S GET TO THE POINT WHERE NORMIES TOTALLY WIN, NO MORE SCI-FI FANTASY IN ANY MEDIUM. Hey, if I could ban the stuff, I would.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Digital set reconstruction

    by lv_426

    That is what really worries me about this, otherwise the idea sounds awesome. I loved those Razor flashbacks to the war with Husker Adama. I think that Caprica and a series or miniseries set about 10 years later during the height of Cylon War I can co-exist.<P>I just hope it doesn't look cheap because of the digital set reconstruction method they have chosen to use. Part of what made BSG so great and what made it feel real was that they shot as much as possible on really convincing and detailed sets or in real locations. Besides the exterior ships in space shots, there wasn't that many digital effects in the series.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 2:03 p.m. CST

    CAPRICA had too many characters from the get go

    by lv_426

    Sure, Galactica eventually had a lot of characters too, but initially they focused on only a few. While Galactica focused mainly on Bill and Lee Adama, Starbuck, the President, and Baltar/Head Six, Caprica should focus more on the Adama and Greystone families. The Soldiers of the One stuff is interesting, but it seems to be taking up too much of the show at this point.<P>With the low ratings, I will be surprised if Caprica gets renewed for another season. The announcement of this Blood and Chrome series is being put out now to soften the blow when they most likely will tell us in November that Caprica is done after the remainder of the first season airs.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 2:08 p.m. CST

    I wish HBO would do a science fiction show

    by Rebel Scumb

    Imagine the possibilities of a scifi show with the production values and creative freedom of a premium cable channel. I'd also love to see Jack McDevitt's series of books about Hutch and her team of intergalactic archelogists. Not exciting enough for a movie, but would make a great ongoing series.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Ideal HBO sci-fi show would be Colonial Marines

    by lv_426

    based of course on the Colonial Marines from ALIENS. Seriously.<P>HBO.<P>bigger episode budgets + no silly censorship = no tamed action scenes and plenty of foul mouth marine banter<P>It wouldn't need to be about them constantly going on bug hunts for xenomorphs either. They could be sent out to the various colonies to: protect diplomats/corp big wigs, put down rebellions, deal with space pirates, fight other types of aliens, fight wars with other mega-corporations or nations, etc.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 2:46 p.m. CST

    YES! New BSG!

    by ParagonComplex

    I still want my sequel movie. I couldn't care less if it's straight-to-dvd, I want it. There's so much story left to tell.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 3:14 p.m. CST

    They better rush "Blood and Chrome"

    by InActionMan

    into production. Real life is catching up very quickly. <P> http://tinyurl.com/yzgya6t

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST

    YOU NEVER HAD A PLAN YOU FUCKS

    by MurderMostFowl

    I want to strangle Ron Moore. If they had the plan for the first cylon war to erupt within the caprica timeline without out all this stupid stupid storyline we keep having , they show would have skyroketed. <BR><BR> INstead we have the go to plot ideas of all canadian TV shows... a secret organization corrupting and controlling things we'll never know about. soooo fucking boring. <BR><BR> Hell I don't know if they moved on on Caprica to something better... I have up becuase of the stupid split season thing. I could put up with it with BSG because that was a truly compelling show. Caprica is like watching honey pour out of a jar that is barely tipped over.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 6:21 p.m. CST

    MERGE THE SHOWS!

    by Antz

    Start up the new show, but dovetail back to Caprica, and do flashbacks to show the consequences of their actions years before.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Please bring back FARSCAPE

    by AshokForgiven

    That is all.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 6:33 p.m. CST

    FINALLY A SENSIBLE BSG SPINOFF

    by Mullah Omar

    This should have been the first sequel that they considered for BSG. Should we assume they learned their lesson with CAPRICA? Probably not, but better late than never. <br> <br> I never really liked the young Adama they cast for those webisodes so I hope they recast the part. Gotta have a badass Tigh, too. <br> <br> I can't help think that it would be even better to NOT focus on any characters from BSG because I agree with everyone else that knowing what lies ahead for them deflates a lot of tension. It's not a total spoil to know the outcome of the war, but if we can assume that the main characters will always live through every fight during this war-based series, then . . . yawn.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 7:50 p.m. CST

    I hope...

    by Audio_of_Being

    That Caprica is sh*tcanned. The show has horrible pacing, boring characters, and is just all around a forgettable affair. It feels like they have no idea what to do with the show. Bear McCreary's music is the only thing that lives up to the show's BSG roots. I honestly think Caprica is the worst show I've attempted to watch since Lost.<P>I really want to believe that Blood and Chrome will work, but after The Plan and Caprica, I think the reimagined BSG universe is out of steam.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST

    expert40

    by Xiphos_2

    The expert cocksucker telling others to suck a cock? Talk about a total lack of insight.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Forget Adama's early years

    by iceman199

    I want to see Roslin's time as Education Secretary.

  • Oct. 23, 2010, 9:56 p.m. CST

    "Jane Espensen...fantastic"

    by BurnHollywood

    LMAO. Her involvement was the reason why I never did more than peek in on this series...the woman's a hack who can only generate meandering soap opera. Pair her up with Ronald "Not Sure How This Ends" Moore (the same duo who generated the worst finale in TV history) and the writing was on the wall...<p> Looks like Syfy put their foot down and demanded what the fans wanted in the first fucking place...the first Cylon War. Pretty sad when a corporate decision is more astute than the producers "vision"...

  • Oct. 24, 2010, 12:28 a.m. CST

    BurnHollywood

    by Audio_of_Being

    So you're saying that Espensen and Moore wrote the Lost finale too? lol

  • Oct. 24, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST

    Alien Anthology?

    by AsimovLives

    Finally they got the name right for the pack. Alien Quatrology was retard like hell.

  • Oct. 24, 2010, 8:15 p.m. CST

    I'd rather the renewed Rubicon. (AMC, that is)

    by Hesiod2k7

    The whole BSG universe is really annoying to me at this point.

  • Oct. 24, 2010, 8:18 p.m. CST

    I have to eps of Caprica on my DVR...

    by Hesiod2k7

    ...that I am mulling over either deleting or watchig. I keep thinking to myself -- "I really should watch. It's Sci Fi! ts the BSG universe! You love that shit!" But then I imagine myself watching it and cringing at how much I hate the fucking show. So, these unwatched eps keep piling up on my DVR (just like The Plan did) and I never watch them. But, I can't bring myself to completely delete them, just in case I get in the mood to watch. I think the BSG universe needs to be gone for a while. I'd rather they brig back Firefly -- or reboot firefly. I was far more interested in that universe and found it far cooler.

  • Oct. 24, 2010, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Caprica was fucked up when Bill Adama's dad became a character.

    by Hesiod2k7

    That just ruined the whole fucking thing for me.

  • Oct. 24, 2010, 10:41 p.m. CST

    If someone asks if you are a god

    by hippie_killer

    You say yes.

  • Oct. 24, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST

    I personally feel that

    by clupula

    Zoe is actually the Cylon God. Or maybe some combination of Zoe and Tamara.<BR><BR>Btw, I just want to state that not everyone who thinks Christianity is fiction hated the series finale of BSG. I thought it made it pretty clear that what the Cylons called their "god" wasn't a god, at all. Don't you remember the final conversation between the two in-heads, where, I believe In-head-Baltar says, "It (could've been he, could've been she) hates when you call it God" or something to that effect.

  • Oct. 25, 2010, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Virtual sets

    by Himbo

    Remember that the show Sanctuary began as a webseries, with almost exclusive use of digital sets. And how many seasons are they deep into that now?

  • Oct. 25, 2010, 6:31 p.m. CST

    If we could see Grace Park & Tricia Helfer naked

    by gun_will_travel

    I would watch 100 of these prequels.

  • Oct. 28, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Finally

    by kwisatzhaderach

    got round to watching the final 10 episodes of BSG and, yes, the ending was atrocious.