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News Corp., Which Reported Megan Fox Had Signed To Play Catwoman, Now Reports Brandon Routh Could Play SUPERMAN For Zack Snyder!

Published at: Oct. 19, 2010, 1:48 p.m. CST

I am – Hercules!! British tabloid News of the World reports that Zack Snyder (“Watchmen”) is considering returning “Superman Returns” star Brandon Routh to the role of Clark Kent in Snyder’s upcoming new Man of Steel movie, the one being produced by “Dark Knight” writer-director Christopher Nolan. But can News Of The World, owned by News Corp., be trusted? The tabloid has been described as sister publication to News Corp.’s The Sun, which reported on Aug. 26, 2009 that Megan Fox had signed to play Catwoman in Nolan’s next Batman movie. Megan Fox’s publicist quickly issued a statement indicating she had not signed to play Catwoman in Nolan’s next Batman movie:
Megan is a huge fan of the Batman movies and of director Christopher Nolan but these discussions have not taken place. Thank you for checking.
“Dark Knight” producers subsequently confirmed that Nolan has not contacted Fox about the role. So if any journalists out there are still interviewing Snyder about “Legend of the Guardians,” kindly ask if he really indicated to News of the World that he’s considering returning Routh to the blue tights. Find ComicBookMovie’s story on News of the World’s story here.
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  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:21 a.m. CST

    Woot!

    by Daremo

    We'll see.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:22 a.m. CST

    Routh

    by Daremo

    I actually thought he was a great choice for "Returns" He was the best part of that movie.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:22 a.m. CST

    Wtf...

    by Bootskin

    News Corps should shut the hell up and learn a little about real journalism...bad enough they own Fox News and allow their employees rail against Muslims and Islam...all while taking investor money from..wait for it...Muslims; IE A Saudi Prince. Just more awesome hypocrisy from the rich asshats in the US.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:22 a.m. CST

    Second is the new FIRST!

    by glodene

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Damn you, Daremo & Bootskin!

    by glodene

    You stole my glory!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:24 a.m. CST

    glodene

    by Daremo

    And 4th is the new Gay.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:25 a.m. CST

    Ha!

    by Daremo

    Nothing pleases me more here then to shut down the "first" posters. :D

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:25 a.m. CST

    Nothing wrong with Routh

    by MonkeyManReturns

    Nothing wrong at all...I think he was the best thing about the turd that was Superman returns...Synder - rumour or not - cast Brandon and be done with it.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:28 a.m. CST

    8th is the new... ah fuck it.

    by brhood

    Routh I thought actually did an OK job with Supes. As for Megan Fox in anything, I could care less... talentless hack that she is.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:29 a.m. CST

    If its in TNOTW...

    by BookhouseBoy

    ...then it ain't true.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:29 a.m. CST

    News Of the World is bollocks!

    by John_McClanes_Vest

    Dont believe that shitty rag!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:31 a.m. CST

    Armie Hammer for Superman.

    by UltimaRex

    "Superman's early years" <p>-Zack Snyder.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:31 a.m. CST

    Well, they're just as reliable as Nikki Finke.

    by tonagan

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:40 a.m. CST

    Routh was ok in Superman Returns

    by BacardiRocky

    If given the chance to play Superman again,I just hope he moves away from doing a Christopher Reeve impression and is allowed to make the character his own. Still hoping for a WWII Era/period piece Superman film.....Yeah I'll keep dreaming.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:45 a.m. CST

    The man in tweets

    by ElGuapo

    Edgar Wright made an oblique tweet to this the other day. Maybe something in it.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:56 a.m. CST

    apparantly Snyder was asked about Routh in an interview..

    by Righteous Brother

    and basically said, that he'd no idea there was such a groundswell of support for Routh out there until recently, and that they'd certainly consider it.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:58 a.m. CST

    He needs to work out with Chris Evans

    by technosnob

    That guy is is a beast now.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:07 a.m. CST

    the former leader/gangster of my country Bertie Ahern

    by TheManWhoCan

    now writes a column for that shitty rag . His hack writer daughter, Cecelia Ahern (p.s I love you/Samantha who.. shudder…)acclaim is owed to her fathers former position as Irish PM. Prick.<p> People who read the NOTW are the biggest idiots in the world.<p> No wonder the world is in the state its in.<P> Help me out here emeraldboy!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:11 a.m. CST

    Routh

    by SanityKaos

    Routh was not the problem in Superman Returns. The story was the problem. Also the fact that it pretended to be like the Donnor films. I don't mind Routh playing Superman as long as they ignore all the other movies.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:12 a.m. CST

    Give it to Routh again

    by lochkray

    He was fine in the first one. So was Langilalala (or whatever) as the Perry White character. And the airplane crash sequence was a 'perfect' Superman action sequence. Kevin Spacey was okay as Luthor, but we don't need another Lex Luthor story. As for the rest of Returns...ugh.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:12 a.m. CST

    Routh was the only redeemable thing about Returns

    by American Mythos

    Cast him and Bryan Singer can at least say he did one good thing for the Superman franchise.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:13 a.m. CST

    FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

    by KilliK

    they are british tabloids so the chance is that all these are POS manufactered news to sell newspapers and magaziens.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:15 a.m. CST

    HOLYWOOD IF YOU READ THIS

    by KilliK

    PLEASE HIRE BACK MR ROUTH FOR SUPERMAN.HE WAS THE BEST THING IN SR,HE DID A GREAT JOB AS SUPERMAN.HIRE HIM AND I AM NOT GOING TO WATCH THE MOVIE IN MY PC,I WILL GO IN A CINEMA,I PROMISE.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:17 a.m. CST

    NEWS CORP DON'T REPORT THE NEWS, THEY MAKE THE NEWS

    by feebster69

    They're so powerful now, it's scary.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:20 a.m. CST

    news of the world...

    by emeraldboy

    is not just a newspaper. its part of media group that wants to destroy british democracy and bring down parliament. News of the worlds former editor is at the very center of power in the uk. while he was ed of news of the world andy coulson presided over a phone hacking scandal that resulted in the former royal corresponded ending up in prison because he hacked the phones of the royal family while he worked for the news of the world. There was a committe set up and one of those who was called to give evidence was Rebbakah brookes. News international told the head of the committee that if that if they as much as suponeda her they would print stuff about him in thier newspaper. this undermined the committee. when murdoch supported new labour, anyone who dared speak ill of blair in the labour party were threatened by his flunkies. murdoch has created an air of fear in the house of commons.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:20 a.m. CST

    AICN regurgitating shitty tabloid celebrity rumours

    by savagedave

    A sad state of affairs.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:22 a.m. CST

    Get Routh and U got a winner

    by PresidentObama

    If they get Routh back, every fan of the previous films will be watching it, 100 percent. In other words, a hit. Lose Routh and for the mentioned fans, it's like, who cares anymore.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:22 a.m. CST

    I wouldn't wipe my arse with the News Of The World

    by Edward_nygma

    Or The Sun. I'm totally up for Routh as Supes again though.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Read their lips : 'No Donnerverse'.

    by Se7en

    Nolan and Snyder already stated so many times that this is a FRESH take on the character. Enough playing with the Donnerverse.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Routh was pretty good as Superman...

    by Bill Clay

    Routh really was this generation's Christopher Reeve. It's not his fault that the movie was slow and dull, that's the director's fault.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:28 a.m. CST

    News Ltd = Ltd News

    by quantize

    they produce entertainment in the guise of 'news'. Fox news is a case in point...entertainment for whining conservatives and dickheads.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:29 a.m. CST

    The Sun is only read by retards and inbreads

    by kenneth campbell

    The Sun and News of The World are the worst kind of tabloid crap. most of what they say is lies and everything else is inacurate. just like all of the shit Rupurt Murdock produces it is dumbed down and devoid of anything true. sorry i had to get that off my chest

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:30 a.m. CST

    Tom Welling and Erica Durance should DEFINETLY get this gig...

    by deano velvet

    Iknow a lot of you guys don't like him but seriously have you seen the last 2 seasons of smallville, the guy is most definetly this generations Superman. I emplore you to watch "Homecoming" the 200th episode the bit in the future! There is the perfect lois and clark. I know smallville was shit around it's 5th to 7th season but it has really come on since the creators left. I know the show will end with him in the suit probably the last shot. Grr. For me i'll feel robbed not to see him in Synders movie. I'm not asking for a smallville movie the smallville connection can be played down or not mentioned at all.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:35 a.m. CST

    BRING BACK ROUTH!

    by hitokirivader

    This is the best news I've heard about the next Superman movie since Nolan came on board. God I hope it's true. :D Routh deserves to be this generation's Superman.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:37 a.m. CST

    deano velvet it wouldnt surprise me if they get Welling

    by KilliK

    if what Snyder said about the theme of the new movie,is true,then we are talking about a smallvile-like rebooted Superman movie franchise.and Welling is the safe choice to guide it.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:39 a.m. CST

    "Brandon Routh Could Play SUPERMAN For Zack Snyder"

    by AsimovLives

    Yes!!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Halle Berry Had Signed To Play Catwoman

    by Gorgomel

    and Michelle Pfeiffer's will play her beloved mother.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:41 a.m. CST

    ahem..

    by smylexx

    For those outside the UK, The News Of The World is a shoddy newspaper with extremely lazy journalism. I'd take anything reported within that tabloid with a pinch of salt.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:46 a.m. CST

    This is bullshit.

    by Shermdawg

    And...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:46 a.m. CST

    LIZZY CAPLAN FOR LOIS LANE!!!

    by Shermdawg

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:46 a.m. CST

    I liked Routh

    by photoboy

    I think he did a good job on Chuck last season, I wouldn't be against seeing him as Superman again. They just need a decent script and villain this time around.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:47 a.m. CST

    GO ROUTH!

    by Joely_Boy

    He's fuckin' awesome as Superman. To recast the role would suck no end of balls.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:52 a.m. CST

    KilliK I hope so!!

    by deano velvet

    I'm not against Routh at all I think he did a great job in a poor movie, it's just for me i've seen what Routh can do i'd like to see what Welling can do on the big stage!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:53 a.m. CST

    No Tom Welling.

    by UltimaRex

    Unless you want to bury Superman.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:59 a.m. CST

    mweow

    by murren

    bitchy. saucer of milk for Hercules

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:05 a.m. CST

    the NOTW is a fucking rag!!!!!

    by TheManWhoCan

    The News of the World makes its money with huge mostly untrue page one headliners. Make a few million-pound/euro profits from the tens of thousands of morons who actually buy the paper. Then lose 1% of that money earned from the headline in liable claims, write a cheque, and repeat <P> Most of the victims of the liable story are rich celebrities that can afford to take the “news” paper to court. (br) They have named-and-shamed innocent people as paedophiles (along with real paedophiles) and have caused some of these people to be severely beaten up in the street and there houses vandalised. A lot of people in these cases don’t have the luxury of sending in the lawyers like Posh & Becks or Brad and Angelina. <p>

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST

    Routh was fine...Singer's the flaw

    by Tandemar

    A decent actor can do nothing if his director has an appalling script, thinks Luthor is who fans want as a villain and has done nothing of any REAL worth since the Usual Suspects. His X-Men outings were passable, they're not the benchmark that anyone should use for super-hero material today. SUPER man...the clue is in the name...the action, the peril, the whole nine yards needs to be SUPER...we don't want exposition and touchy feely blatherings. Give the big S something to hit that will hit him back. We're still waiting for a true comicbook movie.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:08 a.m. CST

    you know theres a mother fucker in that Band of Brothers

    by TheJudger

    Movie who has the supes face. I wish supes face was CGI but ZS failed to make the lip play on CGI manhatten work. He would need some serious King James Cameron info to make it work all the time. No one really looks like supes with a perfect complexion. So that's why i wish the face was cgi I guess. But it would take a real talent to pull it off. Manhatten failed on the lip play, and even the new CGI CLU as far as we know has a lip jaw issue. Well in the last trailer he did, maybe it was fixed. Benjamin Button still holds the "Got it Right" award. I dont like Brandons face. It isn't Reeves it still looks too young to me. Superboy like.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:18 a.m. CST

    It's like NewsCorp...

    by WeylandYutani

    Doesn't even bother to try anymore.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:19 a.m. CST

    If it's a story from NOTW

    by batmans_pants

    Then you can be 100% sure that it's utter bullshit.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Anyone from the UK could tell you, News of the World is shit

    by V'Shael

    Seriously, it's a disgrace of a tabloid. <br /><br />You guys at AICN should put together a small list of those UK papers whose rumours and "exclusives" in their 'Entertainment' sections can be safely discarded in the trashcan.<br /><br />The Sun, The Mirror, The Star, The News of the World. You could start with those 4 at least.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:19 a.m. CST

    I agree -- Routh was fine, but Singer had to go

    by jawsfan

    I'm not a huge fan of Nolan either, but let's see if he can't exec produce better than he directs ("Memento" being the exception to his rather unspectacular directing resume). And no more Lex Luthor, if you please. I thought Spacey was too over-the-top. Megan Fox would only be a good Catwoman in the next Batman film if Catwoman were both naked and mute.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:25 a.m. CST

    Got to be Routh.

    by Keith Maniac

    He was the fkin nuts in the last one, best bit of casting since Chris Reeve. Got to use the John Williams music as well, its inseperable from Superman now and if you think anyone can compose anything more iconic than that your talking out of your crack. Get the balance right and dont give us another bland and forgettable superhero non-event movie. (i'm not ref to Superman Lives, i honestly thought that was good, it was like cold water in the face not having another punch out,video game ending)

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Fucking Rag

    by cushing1967

    The News of the World and The Sun are reprehensible pieces of crap – they’ve never been good but in recent years, as newspapers have become less and less relevant in a world of rolling 24 Hour News Channels and the Internet they have lost any semblance of journalistic intent at all. Both are designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator and usually hit the mark with scandalous ‘expose’s’ on celebrities who have fucked a prostitute, had an affair, taken drugs or whatever. They do this with a fake air of ‘moral outrage’ but it is done because that’s what the people want (not all of them but enough to make these strong market leaders.) They both ‘decided’ who their readership should vote for in the last General Election and there was absolutely no hint of unbiased political reporting. They hack peoples phones and to find out the next ‘juicy scandal’ and quite frankly they are a blight on society.<p>They get their ‘Showbiz’ gossip by trawling websites and reporting forum scuttlebug as fact and they get as much right as they get wrong in these types of story but they still are horrible publications.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Routh had no spark as Superman...

    by Mike K

    ...no energy, no drive, no leading man quality as the Man of Steel. He was DULL. He might be OK as a lighting double or stand-in behind the scenes, but get someone else to play Superman on-screen.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Ummm, if you think Snyder is going to make less gay film...

    by rbatty024

    then you obviously haven't seen any of his work. I think it would be funny if a supposed straight man made a gayer Superman film than an actual gay man. Outside of gay porn, there is nothing more homoerotic than 300.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:59 a.m. CST

    If Snyder doesn't make Routh imitate Reeve again = OK by me.

    by tylerzero

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:01 a.m. CST

    @Shermdog - Brilliant Idea!

    by runawayboulder

    Lizzy is awesome! But I still think Jon Hamm is the best choice for Supes. The above would be impossible because of the age difference.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Fareal, again I have a problem with one of your posts

    by DrRumpledink

    What the fuck are you talking about now!? Routh isn't gay, you crackhead. If he was then cool, because Superman is one of the campest superheroes out there. Are you saying that working with someone who is gay turns you gay? Child!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:08 a.m. CST

    TOM WELLING FOR SUPERMAN!

    by Mike_D

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:08 a.m. CST

    Routh? Really?

    by fassbinder79

    Epic fail.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:10 a.m. CST

    All this because the youtube Routh vs Doomsday. Sheesh.

    by Se7en

    I mean get creative Hollywood for crissakes.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:14 a.m. CST

    emeraldboy

    by MikeTheSpike

    Murdoch used to support Blair?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:15 a.m. CST

    by MikeTheSpike

    ... albeit that bullshitty, "third way" Blair.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:18 a.m. CST

    Welling...

    by NightArrows

    Smallville is a fucking HORRIBLE show. And while Welling is a nice puppy-dog like actor for a TV series, the Man of Steel he's not. He couldn't carry a film. Every bit of that show is a letdown and a joke. Doomsday? Yeah, that was memorable...christ...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Why not Rob Schneider ??

    by HopkinsBalls

    I've been saying this for years, please, somebody listen to me!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Christopher Nolan will squash both of these soon

    by brocknroll

    I'm willing to bet these news aren't true and Chris will respond to it soon and deny it. News of the World is a tabloid. If they report it first, it probably isn't true. I won't believe anything until Christopher Nolan says something.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:22 a.m. CST

    Liane Balaban as Lois Lane!

    by DrPain

    She's beautiful, she's talented, she even went to university to become a reporter.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:22 a.m. CST

    69 Days

    by Countdown_to_Vader

    You know what I mean...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:26 a.m. CST

    You know how I know this isn't true?

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Because Nolan is smart.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Megan Fox

    by NightArrows

    I don't want to see Catwoman as the villain and God help the franchise if that worn out stripper Fox were ever truly cast in the role...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Now Routh has a chance to redeem himself from..

    by Stalkeye

    ..the abomination that was Superman Returns/Retreads.<p>He played a decent supes but(unfortunately) had to work with a lame script.(Baby Daddy subplot,a very useless bullet time effect, the rehash real estate scheme and not to mention an unimpressive Lex Luthor.And to otp it all off, the krypto Island with superman falling to earth arms extended like Jesus.)Yeah, he deserves a second chance ergo I'm all for the casting decision.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:35 a.m. CST

    I wouldn't trust the News of the World to wipe my ass:

    by newc0253

    and even if i did, it would probably make up some other shit.<p>

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:36 a.m. CST

    It would be different if Routh could actually act.

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    He can't. Thus he will not be in the movie. I mean seriously, you think he can hold his own against the types of actors Nolan will get in this film? PLEEEEASE!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Routh is a TERRIBLE actor - Snyder is just fucking lazy

    by Professor_Monster

    If that walking piece of cardboard is put back in this movie will triple the suck factor - Snyder is already a poor choice for a director and now to hear he's in a such a rush he just needs to reuse damaged goods - fuck you assholes out there who consider Routh a good actor - just shows when you grew up

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Remember Tomorrow Never Dies?

    by snappy

    The Bond film? The media tycoon in that was as concerned with accuracy as Rupert Murdoch's NewsCorp. If the News of the Screws told me the sun rose in the east, I'd want it fact-checked.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:37 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Stalkeye

    it doesn't matter to you wether or not Routh will once again star as the man of steel, because eventually your opinion of Zac's Superman will never change for the better.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Yes for Routh and FUCK NO to Fox!

    by Judge Briggs

    I am sure both actors are DYING for the offers to come through...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:38 a.m. CST

    It'd be OK with me, but won't happen

    by BizarroJerry

    The reason will continue to be Hollywood's general belief that such things "confuse" the idiotic populace who will see this and not understand why the story does not seem to continue from the last movie. In reality, I don't think people care. BUT, they may more logically think that people who didn't like the old flick will believe this is a sequel when they see a new actor.<p>Remember people, while all us geeks will see this movie knowing for years before that it is a reboot, but other people who see movies don't follow any of this stuff.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:38 a.m. CST

    What's the third suck factor?

    by NightArrows

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Routh Should Return!

    by jack Bauer

    BUT.... <p> He needs to bulk up, and I mean a lot. he was a pretty good Chris Reeve clone down to the mannerisms which is a good thing. He's never going to steal it from Reeve but it's good move to get someone that the fans sort of recognise in Reeve back in the role. <p> At least Bryan Singer won't get a chance to play with his balls this time ;) <p> One of the set rumours :)

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:42 a.m. CST

    Welling...

    by BizarroJerry

    C'mon, we all know he will never be Supes in a movie. They just won't do it. I don't think he'd be a bad choice, but they won't do it, if only for the reasons to not choose Routh that I mentioned above.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Why do people want Routh to return?

    by brocknroll

    Superman: Returns was okay, but Routh wasn't a good Superman. Get over yourselves.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Fareal why is Routh gay? last time i cheked he had a fiancee

    by KilliK

    some hidden Freudian desire there pal?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:48 a.m. CST

    This is fake BS...

    by darthwaz1

    The idea here is to RESTART Superman from the ground up, not to retread anything, especially that piece of sh*t movie...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Its News Corp, owner of Fox News - not sure i believe them.

    by impossibledreamers

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:54 a.m. CST

    It's owned by Rupert Murdoch...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...also the owner of Fox "News". It's likely total BS. News Corp has all the journalistic integrity and factual accuracy of a 16th century town crier... i.e.: little-to-none. Murdoch is to journalism what Harry Knowles is to lap band surgery.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:56 a.m. CST

    Routh gay...

    by jack Bauer

    Killik, there were many rumours from the set that sort of got a nod that they were right from the Lois actress. Bryan Singer is very openly gay and there was talk of Singer not being able to keep his hands off Routh while in costume, seems he liked to warm his hands around Rouths cock ;) <p> Of course it could be crap...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Armie Hammer would be the best choice

    by superfleish76

    that I can think of. It surprises me that he was cast as Bats and not Supes in the dead JLA project. Jon Hamm would also be great, but at almost 40 is probably too old for the sequels you know the studio wants.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:58 a.m. CST

    ah rumours and speculations..right..

    by KilliK

    unless you have slept with Routh,next time keep the sycophancy to yourself.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Routh was Good

    by DMAGnifier

    ....but I think it would be confusing/distracting for mainstream audiences to see him in the same role that has **nothing** to do with the role he played just a few years ago. Half would be thinking it is a sequel and the other half would just be lost.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:03 a.m. CST

    I don't think Routh is gay - just a bad actor

    by Professor_Monster

    The ONLY other work he's gotten is from fucktard nerds like Kevin Smith and whoever the hell did Scott Pilgrim - total dorks who cast him just so they can get their pic next to Thuperman on the set. What this movie needs is to be taken away from the hands of comic book children and given to those who know how to make big films that have real acting in them.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Fareal, you fuckin' IDIOT.

    by Joely_Boy

    I noticed in your homophobic post you capitalised the word 'BUTT'. What's with that? Subconscious homosexual tendencies?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Rashida Jones for Lois!

    by djangoilbastardo

    And Routh for Supes! That's 'win' in a bottle.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Brocknoll

    by jack Bauer

    Returns was a car crash but when Supes was doing his thing he looked right for the role. Routh came across as a more wiry Chris Reeve clone which apart from the lack of bulk was ok. <p> As for Tom Welling..Hmmm, for me he's like Dean Caine, ok but forgettable

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Re ah rumours and speculations..right..

    by jack Bauer

    Killik, is that a response to me or the other bloke?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:09 a.m. CST

    HOW HOW HOW was Routh good? When? What scene?

    by Professor_Monster

    Give me one fucking scene where he "made you believe" for one second that he was fucking Superman - his looks got him a pass to make me think about Chris Reeve, sure, but he had NONE of Reeve's acting chops.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Routh could be GREAT!!! --It depends on the material.

    by JDanielP

    No actor can save movie material headed in the wrong direction. I've been saying that for years. "BATMAN AND ROBIN" had the talent but WOW, what a terrible movie that was doomed from the beginning. George Clooney could have been a great Bruce Wayne/Batman (and imagine if someone like James Cameron had made that flick, with the movie headed in the RIGHT direction). <P>I want to see Brandon Routh get his shot in a REAL Superman movie!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Keep Routh as Superman, but recast Lois

    by SpyGuy

    Now that he has a few more miles on him, Routh looks more like Superman than he did in 2006. All audiences have to do is ignore that stupid "deadbeat dad" take from the last movie and you're good to go.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Routh is my pick

    by Omar B

    Routh was the best thing to come out of SR! I think it would be smart to continue with him.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:16 a.m. CST

    Split Routh as Kent Vs Routh as Supes

    by jack Bauer

    Routh as Kent was so so, no he does not have the acting skills that Chris had but the fact that many on here liked him just proves he was to many ok in the role.<p> The scene where he's in the bar with Jimmy just before he see's Lois is in danger was a pretty good take on the Reeve Kent. <p> Routh as Supes..<p> Not bad, not as many mannerisms and solidness that Reeve showed from the very start but not too shabby at all. The aircraft rescue scene when he comes on board was pretty good, enough Reeve and a bit of his own take. Sadly the story was dire, it lacked action and punch, I don't blame Routh for that.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Returns had a lot of problems, but Routh wasn't one of them.

    by Galactic

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:19 a.m. CST

    As for Routh being gay?

    by jack Bauer

    I don't give a flying shit if he juggles balls while dressed as the Queen, I also don't care if he's shagged every top model, my only thoughts are as him as Supes and thinking he's still right for the role.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST

    jousha jackson for superman

    by ORIONgods

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:23 a.m. CST

    KEEP ROUTH!!!

    by dead youngling

    If Reeves is "our" Superman, you will find no one better than Routh to play him.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Dean Cain for Superman!!!

    by Johnny Wishbone

    OK. I'll fuck off now...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Lol Johhny...

    by jack Bauer

    Dean Cain for....Toilet Man.....

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:30 a.m. CST

    THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by jack Bauer

    That's my one worry, how Snyder will do the film, I liked 300, the action was great BUT it also seemed to be a homo erotic approach with girly men bad guys and guys covered in oil with six packs patting eachother a load. <p> Please don't do that to Supes mate, he's a mans mans!!!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Superman The Movie

    by NightArrows

    As much hate as there is for Returns, the original Superman hasn't aged well at all. It was one of my favourite films as a kid. Reeve WAS Superman for me. The film viewed now? Ugh. Hackman is a fucking HORRIBLE Luthor. Ned Rape Victim Beatty is the Jar Jar Binks of the day, and Margot Kidder has all the sex appeal of one of Marge's sisters from the Simpsons. Reeve is the only reason that movie works (and the early scenes with Ma and Pa Kent). He sells it. Reeve coupled with Williams' score? Brilliant. That score is probably one of the best ever. I don't even consider the next 3 Superman films because they are filled with even more suck.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:36 a.m. CST

    er Superman the Movie is about the golden age Superman Comics

    by KilliK

    as it is,it is very faithful to that.outdated yes,but missing the true spirit of Superman? no fucking way.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Rupert Murdoch

    by yodalovesyou

    Looks like a pedophile.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Spirit of Superman maybe

    by NightArrows

    Reeve carries that spirit. The rest of the film's pieces are pap. It's a victim of bad 70's trappings.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Chris Nolan and Zack Snyder won't ignore Lex Luthor

    by brocknroll

    I know a lot of people don't want to see Lex back but believe me, like it or not, folks, Lex WILL be back for the next movie. People don't understand that Lex Luthor was a very important character. Zack and Chris vow to stay true to the Superman story, so they aren't that stupid to ignore Lex Luthor.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Nightarrows......100% agreed dude. You pretty

    by southafricanguy

    much just nailed exactly how I feel about the old Superman films. They certainly not aged well, Hackman was a terrible Luthor, Oris is painful, and Margot Kidder just always felt too "rough"

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:45 a.m. CST

    And that'

    by NightArrows

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:47 a.m. CST

    And I have said itbefore, and I will say it again

    by southafricanguy

    Bring back Routh! Whatever was wrong with SR, Routh wasnt it. If anything we can thank Singer for finding Routh, a true sucessor to r Reeve imho..

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:47 a.m. CST

    I don't hate it

    by NightArrows

    My words aren't meant to express a hatred for the first Superman film, I still love it for many things. But there really is HUGE room for improvement across the board. Reeve was however born to play that role.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Can we do Polls on this site?

    by cameron1975willi

    I would love to see Talkbacker's vote for who should win the role of Superman.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Actually, we can blame McG for finding Routh

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    He was his pick for Superman and that spilled over to Singer who fell in gay with him.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Routh needs to HAVE FUN in the part...and make it his!

    by JDanielP

    What man wouldn't LOVE being Superman? --Get it? To love being the character WILL shine through, and THAT is my advice to Routh. <P>If the story and script is there, if Routh is having fun in becoming the character without a need to imitate past performances, and Zack Snyder is giving himself goosebumps because he gets to realize (while setting into motion) an artistic viewpoint of Superman,...then we've got a blockbuster on our hands. <P>Buckle up.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Bring Back Routh!!

    by killianx

    and the Williams theme! You can leave the rest! (though I am a Frank Langella fan! Skeletor Rulez!)

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Expertise does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Amusing to see how little love for SUPERMAN RETURNS there is on this tb. Well, not really suprising as I think we can all agree it was a pretty limp and forgettable affair.<p> However let's see what our resident 'experts' on AICN said about SUPERMAN RETURNS at the time...<p> "this is the film I was hoping and dreaming for" Harry Knowles

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:58 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    "Massawyrm believes a man can fly as he soars with SUPERMAN RETURNS 19 Jun 2006 ... I don't believe I am slipping into the realm of hyperbole when I say that Superman Returns is the Lord of the Rings of superhero films"

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:01 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    No, no hyperbole there Massawyrm. Hey, anyone wonder what Capone thought of it?<p> "Superman Returns is the finest and most well-rounded film about superheroes ever made... Superman Returns isn't simply good, it's damn near perfect, and it gets better with repeated viewings. "

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Superman Returns IS a fuckin' near perfect film

    by Joely_Boy

    It fully explored the magnitude of Superman's powers. Had some beautiful themes and ideas, not to mention some iconic moments. I think it's as perfect a Superman film as one could ever hope for. So there.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Brandon Routh's Supes vs. Terrence Stamp's Zod

    by Rage_Against_Martin_Sheen

    Make it snow.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Routh was good. Tom Welling will be interesting too.

    by lcworld

    Routh was the best thing about Superman Returns. Bryan Singer was a hack. Even Spacey was so so as Lex.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:11 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHA!!!<p> Are the reviews these cretins write bought and paid for? Or are they just IDIOTS?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Superman: Returns was a LOVE story

    by brocknroll

    It focused too much on love and romance with Lois Lane, throughout most of the movie, *yawn*. I hope Chris Nolan and Zack Snyder stays away from the love story thing. We want a "Superman" film with non stop action, that's what I'm hoping for!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:13 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    "It fully explored the magnitude of Superman's powers"<p> Joely_Boy his super stalker power?<p> And all that tedious shit with the kid and the love triangle with the new boyfriend... fuck dude. If there's one thing it didnt do was explore the magnitude of his powers.<p> SUPERMAN RETURNS: LOOK WHO'S STALKING.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Still with the Super stalker thing?

    by Smashing

    What happened to nerds understandfing films? Superman can hear every conversation on earth, from anywhere, he went to Lois's house as he needed to see her as he loves her, it's all there in the language of cinema, SR is a deep and richly layered movie that apparently went over a lot of heads, I'm all for more Routh as he is a great Superman.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:19 a.m. CST

    IS THIS A SERIOUS POSTING? FUCK AICN.

    by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG

    and fuck Hercules. a news article from a british tabloid? fucking serious? this is what this site calls news now. incredible. this place really has taken a huge nosedive in the last couple years, but its starting to get really bad. and hercules? get a new illustration, that one is fucking stupid, and nobody gets it. are you trying to be funny? or do you look like that?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    and routh fucking sucks, grow up everyone. jesus.

    by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Oh lord...

    by NightArrows

    Stop with the fucking stalking shit. It's a theme that should have been explored, how he uses his powers and the fact that he's not fucking perfect. He has God-like powers but isn't God. He makes mistakes and can fall to human issues as easily as anyone else.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Superman and those that followed..

    by jack Bauer

    I'm most likely a fair bit older than most on here so I remember the "You'll believe a man can fly" posters from the day and the full page rainbow advert in the Evening Standard at the time. <p> Being a massive comic head as a teen I was soo soo looking forward to Superman and I have to say I was not disappointed at all. The cheesyness of Hackmans Lex was great for that time (I really don't think it's fair attack a film based on todays world), Otis was a laugh and Ned pulled it off. The little sly look back from the oaf as he saw a cop being pushed to his death under a train was spot on, oaf but nasty. <p> Ack, the one cast member I must admit to not liking was Margot Kidder, her with a ciggie poking out of it is the most unsexy look I can think of, she's just got a 'dirty' or cheap look. <p> The score was / IS amazing, probably Williams best ever and Yes, it should return.<p> Sadly the rest of the films became more comical with only 2 being really worth a watch of both versions of it out there. <p> I can't describe fully how disappointed I was at 3 onwards, they were no more than pay days for the now bored Reeve and with how they were played I can't say I blame him.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:23 a.m. CST

    "Routh was the best thing in Superman Returns"

    by hank henshaw

    That doesn't mean much. Superman Returns was a piece of garbage, horrible script, boring directing, cheesy Luthor, Lois Lame, etc. This NEW Superman saga (I hope) needs a NEW actor to portray the hero, no Routh, no Welling... and KilliK, I've always seen S:TM as a very "Silver Age" Superman movie.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST

    This is what I would like

    by Mr Soze

    Nolan has Batman grounded in reality. Good that works. Superman on the other hand is a God among mankind. I hope Snyder goes bug shit nuts and puts him in other worldly situations.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:25 a.m. CST

    So why the FUCK even post this bullshit?!

    by ricarleite2

    Damn it

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Mr Soze, u and i both

    by wilsonfisk89

    it's time to get an awesome sense of scale in a comic film. intergalactic planetary

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:26 a.m. CST

    It's more than fair...

    by NightArrows

    To attack a film from the 70's based on today's world. Look at the films from the 70's and what they explored. They were dark and gritty and dove into the dark corners of the human condition. That's not to say Superman should have been dark and gritty, but the direction they took with Luthor and Otis was fucking ridiculous. And while I understand it was the first real superhero movie, it still reeks of too much camp.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Spam Jackson IS Lex Luthor

    by NippleEffect

    Since he's prooved he'll walk onto any set for a big fat cheque<br> Lex is saying *Motherfucker* this time

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:29 a.m. CST

    You have to give it a bit of lee way.

    by jack Bauer

    Re the stalking<p> If you allow the idea that Superman can hear conversations world wide then you have to allow for the Scanners approach, they were driven mad by the voices inside their heads, these voices could not be turned off or pin pointed, they were there full on all the time. <p> So if you think about it in real terms, Supes would be driven mad, by the same token, Supes as a kid never killed anyone despite having super strength, him as a toddler throwing a strop would be deadly. <p> so give it all a little lee way :)

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Give Routh the cape once more.

    by billF

    I think he did a very good job as Superman and he deserves another shot playing Superman.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST

    no news outlet is trustworthy

    by alienindisguise

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST

    I hope they at least keep PARTS of the Abrams script

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    The opening 10 minutes of that script is pretty phenominal. A MASSIVE, full-blown Bruce Timmesque, city-flattening fight between Superman and (essentially) Zod. Superman is losing pretty badly. He is bruised and bloodied. "Zod" lures him into an underground bunker and we close in on Superman's face melt into absolute horror at what he sees there. Cut to Superman as a boy on the Kent farm.</p><p>Unfortunately most of the rest of the script is lame, but that opening is fucking amazing and they should keep it.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Dan Jurgens

    by NightArrows

    He bitched and moaned about Superman being a "deadbeat dad" in his "review" of the film. What the fuck did he expect? For Superman to just fly in and take the kid? The kid has grown up with the idea that Richard is his dad. And unless we get a mini-series diving into the multiple father angle, then what we got was handled very fucking well. That and Jurgen's art on Superman fucking sucked so there you have it.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Fuck Zod

    by NightArrows

    I don't want to see Zod, nor do I want to see Superman have his ass handed to him by that fucking mongoloid. Never liked Zod, nor the idea of another Kryptonian on Earth.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Routh was O.K.

    by Hipshot

    But has no juice. Note his lack of substantive roles since then. Charisma is important for actors, especially if they're being asked to prop up a "tentpole." And Routh hasn't displayed that so far. Perhaps Snyder can pull that out of him, but Reeves had charisma in spades, and made those movies work.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Routh needs to be less plastic.

    by Mr Soze

    Superman Returns was pretty lame.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:39 a.m. CST

    milla jovovich for catwoman!

    by yabory

    i think brandon routh is a good choice. he was the best part of a weak script.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Night Arrows

    by jack Bauer

    You have to look at Superman from the angle of the day, the film was a big call, someone was making huge claims about making a man fly etc, also there was money being poured at it to get the big stars onboard so in the end it needed desperately to get bums on seats at the cinema. <p> They took a brave choice picking an unknown and the film was going to have to stand around him soley, this was a Supes film and he had to be able to make it fly. <p> So no risks were taken, everything was kept for a full family audience so yes it was camp but it was camp that was ok at the time. <p> So thats why I when a film is reviewed from todays world and morals, there are some films that manage to blend well even now but many films are simply a thing of the time and should be reviewed as such. <p> Personally I'd love a Dark Knight adaption of Batman, the pained old Batman living in a world of pain and hate being brutal to those that get in his way, no 'bifff' 'bam' or 'kapow' here! <p> that with the interaction of the older Supes coming in to bring his old friend to task, now THAT would be a great film.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Stalking does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    <p>"Stop with the fucking stalking shit. It's a theme that should have been explored."<p> Riiiiight... cos I guess that's what all those wide-eyed 8 year olds are expecting to see when they go see a SUPERMAN movie?<p> Fuck it, why not chuck Superman in with the stalker-sub-genre. Have it play in a double-bill with that one where Robin Williams plays the guy who works in a photo developing booth and spunks all over one families pics.<p> "It's a theme that should have been explored" No. You fucking idiot. It really isnt.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Superman Returns was SHIT

    by Steve Rogers

    ...and any part of the new film that links to it is tainted by association. I've nothing against Routh but the guy was doing an impersonation of Christopher Reeve playing Superman more than actually just playing the character. A new broom would be a good thing. Whatever happens, there MUST be a new Lois Lane! Bosworth was AWFUL! Erica Durance won't get the job but she is at least smokin' hot.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Jack Bauer

    by NightArrows

    I understand that perspective of it, it happens today more often than not. A movie that could be what it should be becomes instead what it needs to be to appeal to the suits and the broad majority of theatre goers. I don't condone that mentality though because some of the best films are those that took risks. And most of the films we bitch about now are films that sat on the fence and were lazy. There is much I can look past in Superman, but there's only so much you can forgive when trying to watch a film and still be as into it as you were when you first saw it, in my case as a kid. And like I said, what they did right, they REALLY did right, the score and Reeve etc.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Reboots have a way of retaining previous drafts

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Even though Batman Begins started from scratch, it has similarities to the fan script WB really loved and was showing around called "Batman: The Frightening".</p><p>That was an EXCELLENT Batman script. It was definitely aimed at adults and was even kind of gory in places.</p><p>It starts off with Batman locked up in Arkham Asylum as a patient. He still has his mask on because the Doctor says that he has so identified with Batman that to take the mask off would cause a complete break with reality. I can't quite remember if the rest of the film is a flashback, but I seem to recall him getting broken out, perhaps by Alfred. Anyway, the rest of the script is about Batman chasing Scarecrow and running down his own demons let loose by Scarecrow's gas. It's a real page-turner, you should track it down.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:47 a.m. CST

    The "stalking" was a great way to show the age-old

    by Joely_Boy

    dilemma of whether to use your powers for good or evil. It was a nice little test of Superman's character. <P>As for exploring the magnitude of Superman's powers, what, you didn't see him save a jumbo jet from crashing into earth? Moving faster than a speeding bullet to save the two security guards from getting shot? Taking a bullet in the eyeball without even flinching? Using x-ray vision to check if Lois was okay? Freezing an explosion with his breath? Lasering shards of glass with his eyes? Oh, and LIFTING A FUCKING CONTINENT INTO OUTER SPACE?!!!!!<P>I dunno what fucking movie you watched, Cobra--Kai, but I think your memory may need some repair! Did Superman kiss you?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:47 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    "Daddy, I can't sleep"<p> "What's the matter son?"<p> "Im worried Superman is looking in my window. I'm worried he'll take me away."<p> "Fuck. Why did I take you to that fucking shit movie!"

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:48 a.m. CST

    A test of character that HE FUCKING FAILED!

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    And THAT'S why it's fucking BULLSHIT because Superman would never do that! Fucking AMAZING that you don't understand that!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Cobra--Kai

    by NightArrows

    First, fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Second, you're a twat and do you think a wide eyed 8 year old understands everything he or she sees in a fucking movie (like Clark giving up his powers so he could bang Lois in Superman 2???) and Third, YES it really is. He has the power to see and hear nearly everything, do they simply ignore that? Oh I see, it's OK to have him look at Lois's crotch in the first movie and "only" see her underwear? Yeah, big fucking difference. And D, go march into traffic. End of Line.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:53 a.m. CST

    So YOUR Superman would be checking her out nude all the time...

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Because he fucking CAN? hey, he should spped-rape her too, you know, BECUASE HE CAN! What, they should just ignore that?</p><p>Fucking christ are you a goddamn chimp!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Jon Hamm as Superman

    by Redmantle

    bye bye Routh

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Routh was excellent as the Greatest Hero Ever...

    by The Krypton Kid

    and deserves to wear the iconic cape and shield in a proper Superman epic.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST

    mikethespike..

    by emeraldboy

    he did. remember the hutton report, news international broke the press embargo by printing the sun newspaper 5mins before other newspapers went to press. Murdoch hates the bbc. andy coulson is now camerons chief communications officer in downing street. Coulson was editor of the news of world during the phone hacking scandal. Trevor Kavanagh, the suns retired political correspondent claimed that he got the copy of hutton report from a security person. wouldnt say who it was. Murdoch, blair and cameron all loathe the bbc and want it destroyed.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Nobody even said who the main Batman villain is going to be

    by brocknroll

    In case you guys noticed, Christopher Nolan and Warner Bros. have been keeping shut about the new Batman villain for a long while. Nobody knows who it is yet. It might not even be Catwoman or the Riddler at all. My guess is that the new Batman villain will be Black Mask 'cause Chris has been talking about using him for a while. Tom Hardy is casted for a main character role, so he might be playing the main villain.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:59 a.m. CST

    RETURN_of_FETT

    by NightArrows

    When did I say any of that you fucking moron? I said the territory of what he can do with his powers and how he tempers the usage of those powers is what they need to explore. That is what makes him an interesting character versus simply a perfect boy scout. He isn't GOD, and CAN make mistakes. Fuckstick.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10 a.m. CST

    Donner films

    by NippleEffect

    everyone in the donner films was a fuckin retard<p> No more blatantly stupid people<p> fuckin retards

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:02 a.m. CST

    You realise that in movies conflict causes

    by Joely_Boy

    reinforcement of character? "Bad" things have to happen so a character can learn from their mistakes. You can't get too hung up on Superman wanting to see his old flame and her new dude!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    He wasn't stalking Lois in Returns

    by The Krypton Kid

    He was checking in on her. Lois is the woman he loves. He's been away off-world for five years. He returns and finds that her life has completely changed and he has no opportunity to speak with her: She won't give Clark the time of day and she's fiercely angry at Superman. He loves her, so certainly he needs to know what's going on in her life. ONE TIME he checked in and that was it. That's not stalking and anyone who says it is is misusing the term.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST

    rhymes with MOUTH

    by 2soon2eat

    No way I would pay money to see this in a theater if Routhie was in it. Maybe on Netflix? Hmmm.....Nah. Creepy wooden Donner clone.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    TheManWhoCan

    by emeraldboy

    his memoirs were tax exempt. the cupboard door opens...the door for the aras closes. did you see the list for irelands greatest on tv. fianna fail. a year plan and concensus. Ireland is screwed. really screwed. I am off to protest tomorrow against cuts in disability. In ireland the clock is ticking towards the day imf come in...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Yeah he was stalkin Lois

    by NippleEffect

    it was creepy man<p> deal

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST

    The Krypton Kid - Good point!

    by Joely_Boy

    One time does not constitute stalking! Hahaha!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:07 a.m. CST

    And the deadbeat dad accusation is crap too

    by The Krypton Kid

    He didn't know he had a son. And when he found out Lois' son was his, the first thing he did was visit his son and share a powerful paternal moment with him. <p> <p> It sucks how fanboys will make up bogus reasons to hate.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:08 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    NightArrows, if im marching into traffic what about the horse I rode in one? What happens to the horse? And how did you begin with numeric bullet points but end up at point D? I think the point of your post was that I'd belittled you and now you no longer like me, but it's unclear. Plus you want more stalking in future Superman films not less?<p> Pls clarify using a six point hexagonally-rotated numeric response.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Kevin Corrigan would make an Excellent Lex Luthor

    by TheJudger

    and Zach Galifianakis would work well as Otis. and Joel Moore would make a great Jimmy Olsen.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Kevin Corrigan would make an Excellent Lex Luthor

    by TheJudger

    and Zach Galifianakis would work well as Otis. and Joel Moore would make a great Jimmy Olsen.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Wow, NippleEffect, you really shut me down with that retort

    by The Krypton Kid

    And "NippleEffect"?! Yikes.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Kevin Corrigan would make an Excellent Lex Luthor

    by TheJudger

    and Zach Galifianakis would work well as Otis. and Joel Moore would make a great Jimmy Olsen. <P> Third times the Charm. <P> Seriously though. Kevin Corrigan should be this generations Peter Lorre, and he would make an amazing Lex. But like everyone else says Lex should be a background character and not the main bad guy. His role should be built up for a sequel that would feature him as the main baddie.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Well, Superman IS a "boyscout".

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    If you don't like that, then you don't like SUPERMAN! Move the fuck along!</p><p>Superman doesn't use his powers to check out Lois' vagina, he doesn't use them to watch her go up the elevator so he can see up her skirt, he doesn't spy on her homelife, he doesn't listen to her private conversations. You know why? BECUASE HE RESPECTS HER! For people who don't know what the fuck respect is, I suppose that doesn't make any sense. But that's because they are fucking stupid and don't "get" Superman AT ALL!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Ok so

    by NippleEffect

    he wasn't going thru her trash for soiled panties to sniff<p> dewd was stalking

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:14 a.m. CST

    or

    by NippleEffect

    used thongs to floss with

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:16 a.m. CST

    No the deadbeat dad point is PERFECTLY valid!

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    After being made human, he had unprotected sex with Lois. Then he IMMEDIATELY leaves the planet for 5 fucking years. Now I'm assuming Clark Kent took a fucking health class at some point. And NEVER in those 5 years did it occur to the fucking moron that she could have gotten pregnant?</p><p>DEADBEAT DAD!</p><p>Oh and Superman Returns also established that Lois Lane is a FUCKING WHORE because no sooner than Superman leaves, without her even knowing it apparently, that she hops in the sack with a new guy. NICE! Yeah what a brilliant fucking portrayal of those iconic characters!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Let The Routh One In...

    by SauceDiesel

    He was a great Superman. Give him a shot Snyder...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Routh wasn't the problem with Returns, the script was

    by GLENN_THE_TOOL

    it didn't give Routh a whole lot to do with the character. all Superman really did in the script was stalk Lois and lift heavy objects. the film just felt bland and stale, lacking any real excitement. give Routh something to work with!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST

    I "get" Superman just fine thank you

    by NightArrows

    He seems like a boy scout to humans because that is what his role is. He is there to solve the big problems and to be a beacon to the rest of us to stand up and be better people, and to solve OUR own problems in a better fashion than we normally do. On his own he has to deal with a multitude of problems that yes, we would all face in his place. He can't show it because, as was said, he is a shinning example of what a Superhero should be, but he's far from perfect. As for checking out her vag, what the fuck did he do in the first Superman movie? He checked out her FUCKING UNDERWEAR. I guess that was "respect" huh?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST

    RETURN_of_FETT

    by NightArrows

    After reading your deadbeat dad post, you are obviously too stupid to live.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Routh was not bad

    by catlettuce4

    The premise of the movie was bad. And from what I've heard so is the premise of the upcoming one. Once again, we will not be given the Superman movie we want... only the guys doing animated stuff know how to treat this character and make it work, it would seem. Everyone else has to do some highly unusual take on it or introduce elements that just don't work well.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:21 a.m. CST

    You can't be a deadbeat dad

    by NippleEffect

    if you don't know if you have a kid<p> The whole point of being a deadbeat dad is ignoring your responsibilities<p> If you don't know about a kid you can't ignore it<p> Lot of donner characters in this thread<p> Fucking retards

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:23 a.m. CST

    re: Let The Routh One In...

    by NippleEffect

    zing<p> We Have A WinnARRR

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST

    SHE ASKED HIM TO SEE HER UNDERWEAR!

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Did you not watch the fucking movie? You know what? Figure out what the fuck you're talking about, then come back.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:27 a.m. CST

    AHH YES

    by NippleEffect

    the infamous panty explanation

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:27 a.m. CST

    I wouldn't use the News of the World to wipe my arse.

    by RowanM

    It's a tabloid newspaper. It's full of shit.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Nightarrows, then it should be easy to prove me wrong

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Go ahead, explain how it's perfectly logical that Superman didn't think he could have possibly gotten her pregnant. While you're doing that, why don't you go ahead and explain why he would leave the love of his life to see if the planet his own father told him was destroyed, was still around? Yeah, Superman Returns was fucking BRILLIANT!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Please Bring Back Routh!!!

    by MMacKK

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:30 a.m. CST

    PLEASE!!!

    by MMacKK

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:30 a.m. CST

    "How old are you little boy?"

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    "Wow, that's a coincidence because I fucked your mother exactly around the time you were concieved."

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:31 a.m. CST

    "How old are you little boy?"

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    "Wow, that's a coincidence because I fucked your mother exactly around the time you were concieved."

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Superman and Lois Lane's husband

    by Dookie_Lumpkins

    I still can't get over Superman Returns where those two look longingly at each other. ecccchhh! Snyder will erase the shame that Schuster and Seigel never intended.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Rashida Jones as Lois, Routh as Superman

    by Ironhorse

    She's quirky, tough and believable. Routh did a superb job given what he had to work with. I think both would have great chemistry together.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST

    English newspapers = Bullshit!

    by Kakii

    Dont believe a single word from any British newspaper, theres more chance of findin a true fact in a Dr Seuss book! As for BR I think he is a good Superman, cant blame him for a shoddy story in Superman Returns.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I'd love Routh back in the role, but...

    by Lone Fox

    Our good ol' British tabloids just latch onto old rumours then run them. And that's on a GOOD news day.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Why even post this 'news'?

    by Orbots Commander

    It's clearly bull shit speculation from a British tabloid that has never been right about anything and is likely a plant from actors' publicist teams. I could report that my dog Bart is predicting that Jack Black is playing Superman and it would be just as accurate as this report.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:40 a.m. CST

    JettL93 probably has a better track record

    by Sonny_Williams

    than any Murdoch-owned publication or broadcast entity.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Superman most talked about than Batman

    by brocknroll

    Ever notice that when Superman comes out with a new movie, he's the most talked about superhero ever and every other superhero including Batman is ignored? Just proof that Superman is king.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:45 a.m. CST

    brocknroll, I don't know about that...

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Superman gets a lot of hits, that's for sure. I think it has more to do with that it's so easy to fuck up Superman and there is a LONG behind the scenes history of bizarreness in getting a new film to the screens. Superman Returns just piles on top of that and makes the subject even more interesting to talk about because there are some exceptionally stupid mother fuckers walking around that have no idea what the character of Superman is supposed to be, including Bryan Singer.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST

    To be fair to that hateful shitrag...

    by TommyGavinsEgo

    ... the News of The World, for once, it's pretty much true. Their site carried video of Snyder at the Guardians premiere, being asked about the (rapidly burgeouning "BringBackRouth" Twitter campaign (which has prompted Routh himself to join Twitter and sign up) and did say he was aware of the surprisingly huge groundswell of goodwill towards the guy, which they didn't see coming, and acknowledged that Routh may be a contender. I hope so.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Superman returns was a good film

    by ORIONgods

    i get it you wanted more action, well whaaaaa go watch a micheal bay movie. and as for the stalking point.. he was Fucking checking in on her he hadnt seen her in 5 years.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Stana Katic should play Catwoman

    by Cobb05

    And I'm glad they are thinking about Routh to come back as Superman. I don't think he was bad, I just think Singer screwed the pooch on Superman Returns. He was the only bright spot.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:51 a.m. CST

    What's he going to say" FUCK THAT ASSBAG ROUTH?"

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    After finding out there is a gaggle of retards that want him in the role? Of course not. He will cast some amazing actor who will be perfect in the role and all the simps with shut the fuck up about it.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Yeah, thats not creepy at all

    by NippleEffect

    heeey buddy, how old are you<br> whatdoyouknow I fucked your mommie that long ago

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Routh is terrible.

    by xsi kal

    Incredibly wooden actor. He may sort of look like Christopher Reeve, but he has absolutely none of his charisma or energy.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:56 a.m. CST

    " Owned by News Corp "

    by DigitalDong

    Nice to see Herc doing his Keith lOlbermann impression. Yes, News Corp can't be trusted, they're evil. Like Republicans, and of course female co-workers who won't give you a mercy fuck.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:57 a.m. CST

    DON'T TRUST NOTW!!!!!!!!!!!

    by HarryWhereIsYourInceptionReview

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Can Hercules be trusted?

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Geez -- Hercules, that tried-and-true liberal apologist, questions a report simply because of the person who owns the company from which the report was published. Should we question the New York Times simply because it is owned by an admitted socialist who is EXTREMELY liberal, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr.? Geez. Do you think that EVERY article must be screened by Rupert Murdoch? Besides, Hercules seems like he would endorse Hugo Chavez if he ran as a "Democrat." <p>As for the report: I just hope that they can find someone other than Routh to play Supes. That is, UNLESS he can be taken out of his shell and given the freedom to play the character as envisioned by Chris Nolan. </p>Megan Fox for Catwoman? Who didn't see that coming? I think that every hot woman in America has been rumored to be considered for the role.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11 a.m. CST

    No Routh.

    by BooBoosDaddy

    I don't think he looked the rugged hero I always imagine Superman to look. umm, John Hamm. I know he is too old for a start up story, but why couldn't Superman be established? Why does it have to be the early years?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11 a.m. CST

    PUMP SOME HGH INTO JON HAMM

    by jalfredprufrock

    and call it done.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Both of these seem bogus

    by jimmy_009

    First off I can't see a director like Nolan casting a non-talent like Megan Fox. Secondly I don't see a studio going with anyone that isn't a big name after the only so-so box-office and critical reception of Superman Returns. Neither of these casting stories sounds true.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Well said DigitalDong....Puppies are evil, too.

    by theFUZZ008

    I knew someone at NewsCorp who hated puppies. Guilt by association.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:06 a.m. CST

    I not sure why AICN staff is so hung up on Routh returning

    by TooSoon

    Sure you guys have met him on a few occasions and I bet he's a real nice, charismatic guy and you consider him to be a friend. But there needs to be a complete break from Singer's Superman. He's too tied to that particular universe. It would be too weird to see Routh there with different actors playing the other roles in a different universe of Superman. And if Snyder decides to return to Singer's storyline of Superman complete with Superkid, I'm done with Superman films. Singer made a critical mistake and that is to make a direct continuation of Donner's Superman storyline. The best course of action would be to adopt the spirit and quality of Donner's Superman, but it needs to be a fresh new Superman universe.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    They need to cast a MAN . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    It's SuperMAN . . .

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Superman the Stalker –

    by cushing1967

    I didn’t like Superman Returns, I thought it was boring and bland and only a few scenes stand out for me. However, I don’t get this crap about Superman the Stalker especially as it’s not a new thing – I mean we’re talking about a being who listens to Lois talking about the ‘man she loves’ and then acts on that. Superman’s actions towards Lois are ultimately informed by her being unaware of his other identity. So, in any Superman story where Lois is unaware that Clark is Superman then he is in effect stalking her.<p> If you chose to go down that route of thinking about the movie then you have to about the character.<p>I don’t choose to myself, I hated the scene in SR because I felt it was incredibly out of place in a Superman film because the character has enough about him that you don’t need angsty love stories – that’s my problem with it. It feels like the latest episode in a long running television series rather than a Superman film.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Superman the Stalker –

    by cushing1967

    I didn’t like Superman Returns, I thought it was boring and bland and only a few scenes stand out for me. However, I don’t get this crap about Superman the Stalker especially as it’s not a new thing – I mean we’re talking about a being who listens to Lois talking about the ‘man she loves’ and then acts on that. Superman’s actions towards Lois are ultimately informed by her being unaware of his other identity. So, in any Superman story where Lois is unaware that Clark is Superman then he is in effect stalking her.<p> If you chose to go down that route of thinking about the movie then you have to about the character.<p>I don’t choose to myself, I hated the scene in SR because I felt it was incredibly out of place in a Superman film because the character has enough about him that you don’t need angsty love stories – that’s my problem with it. It feels like the latest episode in a long running television series rather than a Superman film.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Jesus christ Fett...

    by NightArrows

    Quote: "Go ahead, explain how it's perfectly logical that Superman didn't think he could have possibly gotten her pregnant." Really? I guess you are still a virgin, or your sexual experience is limited to Palmela Handerson because on a daily fucking basis people have sex, and you know what? It doesn't always dawn on them that they could impregnate their partner based on the time of the woman's cycle they are having sex, or even the fact that the woman COULD HAVE USED BIRTH CONTROL THAT DIDN'T FUCKING WORK. As for the panty remark, if he was so pure and untouchable in the morals department he wouldn't have tried to see her underwear even when asked by Lois, correct? Go fuck a college wall, you might absorb some learning.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST

    tom hardy as superman.

    by alice133

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST

    i doubt it'll go to Routh

    by Datascream

    Routh was in an extention of the Donnerverse. Since this is a fresh start audiences will be put off and confused by the change in story "what happened with his kid?" However all that could happen anyways. I dunno maybe it could work out. But he represents those versions of superman, so I'd imagine the studios would want to seperate from it as much as possible.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Routh this time with digital blue eyes.

    by UltraTron

    His contacts make him look like a guy with brown eyes wearing blue contacts. Digitally make his eyes the same pale blue that reeves were and it would add a surreal,otherworldly quality to his character that I think would accentuate his look nicely. However there's the baggage he brings from returns- but that never stopped temporal anomoly Judi dench

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Yeah, And Elizabeth Berkley Has Been Cast In SHOWGIRLS 2

    by LaserPants

    To be directed by James Cameron. All due to the wild success of the first SHOWGIRLS that catapulted Berkley to superstardom... oh, wait, did I get something wrong here?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    You see Brandon Routh on Chuck?

    by zillabeast

    Was not bad at all. I could dig this.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Move As Far Away As Possible From Donner / Reeves

    by LaserPants

    As the EPIC FAILURE of SINGERMAN REGURGITATES amply demonstrates, most of the world is WAY over the dated-to-the-point-of-absurdity Donner / Reeves movies and is looking for a new take on the character. So, if they're smart they'll keep the soundtrack and jettison everything else. (I just hope they keep Supes in the boy scout mode. He shouldn't be "dark and brooding", that's Batman's job.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:30 a.m. CST

    I Hope Catwoman IS In BATMAN 3

    by LaserPants

    But I hope it's not Megan Fox. She's hot, of course, but can't act. At all. Cobb's wife in Inception could be a good Catwoman, or Eva Green. She'd be good too.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Hope this is true

    by tensticks

    I like Routh and I hat Snyder so this would give me a reason to at least look at it hopefully.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST

    If not Routh then who? He didnt make Returns suck

    by Saen

    That was the story, Kevin Spacey, and that terrible Lois Lane Cyclops love triangle. Id just as well see Routh return then see some no name actor who has done nothing to step into the role. Routh now has experience, and he definitely looks the part.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:35 a.m. CST

    And if not Routh...

    by tensticks

    Then Hammer is the only guy I can get behind. He has the physical and vocal authority and presence for the role.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:36 a.m. CST

    The News of the World....

    by Amazing Maurice

    Is the most embarrassing garbage rag ever printed.<P>Do not believe a word of anything they say. They are a fucking a joke (and their sister paper THE SUN™ can fuck off too.<P>"According to our sources...blahblahblah"<P>'Sources' indeed. What a fucking load of shite that newspaper is.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Armie Hammer for Superman.

    by UltimaRex

    That is all.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Why would you even bother?

    by Bronx Cheer

    What's next? Are you going to report that Bat Boy is real and that aliens are meeting secretly with the President? Come the fuck on! You might as well run stories verbatim from the NY Post.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Nobody does entertainment news...

    by HoboCode

    ...like the financial and political arm of the GOP.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:41 a.m. CST

    The blond from the princess and the frog

    by UltraTron

    for everything. She's the best traditionally animated character since Cruella Deville and moves with enertia. She's something else

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Routh was PERFECT!!!

    by FleshMachine

    especially as he grows older

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Routh looked like Jason Schwartzman with blue contacts

    by Nerd Rage

    Get Armie Hammer for Supes. Dude was born for the role.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST

    BWAAHAHAA! I just saw this Armie Hammer douche

    by UltraTron

    some of you geeks are touting. Er.. No. I'll take Routh over that guy anyday. Just apologize at the beginning of the movie for returns with a little caption

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST

    To Routh or not to Routh, that is the question.

    by DrPain

    Tis a double edged sword.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST

    UltraTron...

    by UltimaRex

    Did you see Hammer in the social network? Where it was made quite clear he's the best choice?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Suprised by the Routh love

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    I thought he was bloody awful, offensively bland.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Lois must have pokies

    by NippleEffect

    cos she's a perky girl

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Welling should get it

    by Lonesome_Rhodes

    It would be great if Durance came along too, but Welling has played Clark Kent for ten years and he more than anyone deserves a shot at this role. He was great on the 200th episode of Smallville Friday night. It can still be a reboot, no need to be beholden to Smallville continuity, but Welling is the best choice for Superman.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Why bring back Routh?? I don't f*cking get the logic!

    by darthwaz1

    That would be the SAME thing as bringing back George Clooney for Batman Begins! It would've been sensless!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Lou Ferrigno as Superman

    by daveli91

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST

    darthwaz1 makes a great point...

    by daveli91

    What the hell are you guys thinking?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:57 a.m. CST

    I'm alright with Routh...

    by Wungolioth

    He was great on Chuck last season and anyone who saw him in Scott Pilgrim knows he doesn't have to bulk up all that much. Just PLEASE redesign that suit!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Superman Returns fucking sucked.

    by Nerd Rage

    The burnt ketchup costume, the stalker version of supes, the bastard child crammed into the story, miscast Lois Lane, Kumar shanking Superman like a bitch, Superman only lifting shit for 2 hours, forced Jesus allegories, a wasted Williams score, the tacky real estate scheme repeat. It was shit. Don't try to defend it.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:04 p.m. CST

    "and acknowledged that Routh may be a contender. "

    by KilliK

    Snyder and Nolan are not going to get Routh back again,unless they dont find a better actor for the role.Routh is going to be the last,desperate choice for them,even Welling has better chances to be the new superman than Routh.which sucks.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Routh, Welling, & Hamm

    by LetsGoMets

    Welling has done great work the last 2 seasons and Routh was as good as allowed in SR. Would love to see a future story with Hamm; he is a great actor & has a Super presence.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    I don't want to dwell on SUPERMAN RETURNS cos I really think it screwed the pooch by being boring - the one thing you can't do with a film that's ultimately aimed at kids.<p> But what was the deal with the love triangle? Did Cyclops guy think the kid was actually his or did he know it was Supermans? Same with Lois - did she fuck Superman and Cyclops guy in the same week and so she didnt know who the father was?<p> Cos Superman can read minds - surely as soon as he met Lois or Cyclops he'd know that they have his kid???<p> Pls someone who knows this film better than I do explain...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:09 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Ultimately - how can they use Routh?<p> Surely the audience will say 'where is his kid?', or 'where is that scheming bitch who kept the kid from him?'<p> They've already pushed a round peg into a square hole as far as the continuity goes - they can't stretch it any further by using Routh again - but in another rebooted universe.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:10 p.m. CST

    It could be worse

    by AGNT009

    Remember when they were seriously going to use Nicholas Cage for Superman? And a source tells me that even Dean Cain will audition for Snyders new movie...... I just dont think we will ever get as lucky as we got with new face Christopher Reeve for this role. We are just going to have to settle for sloppy seconds. I wouldnt be mad with Routh. I just refused to buy that movie because of the stupid kid, not so great story, and the flat Lois Lane. I liked the airplane opening scene, thats about it.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Welling doesn't want it.

    by UltimaRex

    "I'm open to it..." = ...Like I was "open" to SR, JLA and twice to Smallville. <p>"Do you have a script?" = So I can not read it like I don't read comics. <p>"It's not that simple." = If you don't have a gun to point to my head there's no way in hell I'm doing it. <p>"I'm going to Hellcats" = I'm going to Hellcats.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:13 p.m. CST

    The routh argument explained

    by brobdingnag

    The reason he is so divisive is that the group who values acting talent dislikes him and the group that values looks like him. This has a lot to do with the large percentage of the gay community that are involved in Sci-fi. The fans that like him as Superman are mostly female or gay males, and want him for the same reason Singer did...he wanted to fuck him. The people who oppose him are mostly straight males who value his looks less, and are basing their opinion on his "talent". It's sad that an actor's looks or "the fuck factor" is so influential but it is, just like the straight males tend to be a lot more forgiving of an actresses talent flaws if she is hot. It's the exact same thing.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Wil Smiff IS Superman

    by NippleEffect

    seeing as how we gots an undead grey president an all<br> makes sense

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:19 p.m. CST

    The Routh argument further explained.

    by Subtitles_Off

    Some people think Routh is a Christopher Reeve lookalike, and they can't get past their sentimental attachment.<P>Rather than cast Routh, Snyder should just go to Home Depot, buy a plank of lumber and stick it in front of his stupid green screen.<P>Same end result, and he'll save a few bucks.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    This non-news contradicts yesterday's non-news.

    by Subtitles_Off

    You know, the non-news which announced Goyer's script pitch for this had a twentyling Clark Kent trying to make up his mind as to whether he should even be Superman.<P>You know, pouty dope in a hoodie?<P>SUPERMAN BEGINS.<P>Turns out Perry White is really Braniac in the final act. After Kent burns down The Daily Planet.<P>I heard it even has Toyman on a horse.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Clancy Brown as Luthor!!!!

    by Judge Briggs

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST

    As much as I'd want to see Brandon Routh come back

    by TheFlyingWasp

    You can't take any of these headlines as true until it's made official, especially since Nolan is involved, who more the likes to keep things underwrap until the time is right.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Off topic: Tom Bosley "Happy Days" fame is dead,

    by brocknroll

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    PLEASE RASHIDA JONES AS LOIS

    by BlackJackBauer2

    it is pretty much as perfect casting as you could hope for. she would be the best lois....EVER. <p> Seriously.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Routh would be interesting under Snyder's direction

    by CodeName

    I don't mind. But I really want to pronounce it like Ruth rather than rhyming it with south.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:48 p.m. CST

    But please, change and revamp that Returns suit.

    by CodeName

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Oh fer... It's ZACK not Zach!!!

    by 3D-Man

    Aaaaaaarrrggghhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Routh was an excellent Superman

    by CuervoJones

    I guess he will not play Superman again, because this is a reboot. That sucks.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 12:59 p.m. CST

    No Routh, No Welling, a Reboot means a different actor

    by Nautilus_nrm1

    Man of Steel is intended to be a reboot, that means no connections to the Superman Returns or Smallville universes. Logically, that means no to both Routh and Welling. Nolan produced an academy award level picture; he and Snyder should aim as high for Superman: Man of Steel. That means finding actors who can actually act as well as look the part. And if can look like the Alex Ross Superman, all the better.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1 p.m. CST

    Jon Hamm for Man of Steel...

    by the_senator

    ... make it so and if we ever get a Batman/Superman movie it will destroy the Avengers. Bale & Hamm kicking ass and taking names. Throw in a Mel Gibson appearance too if you like, maybe as a crazy nutter who runs amok in Hollywood.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:09 p.m. CST

    I didn't mind Routh - it was the writing

    by VAwitch

    That blew chunks. I mean, really - WHO is gonna be able to step into the Supe role w/o being compared to Chris Reeves?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:12 p.m. CST

    YAY FOR ROUTH!!!

    by elsewhere

    NAY FOR FOX!!!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Routh and no reboot

    by donkingkong

    Yea read the script treatment for new one, it can still work without it being a reboot or straight up sequel to Singer's version. Just do a "continuation" of the Superman. No more reboots, no more origin stories, let's just have a good solid Superman story!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Kneel before Zod

    by the_senator

    If he is the villian then please no Jude Law for General Zod. Would be fine for Gerry Butler or Josh Brolin. Basically someone who can be brutal and menacing with a just a stare, nevermind evil superpowers.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Kneel before Zod

    by the_senator

    If he is the villian then please no Jude Law for General Zod. Would be fine for Gerry Butler or Josh Brolin. Basically someone who can be brutal and menacing with a just a stare, nevermind evil superpowers.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Superman: Man of Steel should be a period movie.

    by Nautilus_nrm1

    The new movie needs to be set in the 80s or earlier; I'd prefer setting the story in the 50s. This needs to occur so that the movie audience will realize this Superman story is a new story not tied to the old movies. That way you don't have a confused audience asking "Where's his kid from the last movie?" or "Does this take place after Superman 4?". Plus, people dig period movies, especially those in the 40s, 50s, or 60s.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:15 p.m. CST

    donkingkong

    by the_senator

    any mention of villians?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:18 p.m. CST

    who the fuck is Routh...

    by AllThosePowers

    ...will you people please stop sucking him off, you all obviously like the dick, in yer fucking mouths, let me explain to you Routh-rimmers a simple fact; Reeves' acting ability was second to none, he went to Juliard for christ's sake, so I'll ask again comparitively "Who the fuck is Routh!?" he is absolutely less than nothing!! He can not act, he can not talk, he can not walk, he sure as fucking hell can not fly. Get off Routh's dick!! You fucking people make me sick!! If he ends up in the film because of all you fucking scat practising Routh licking arse-munchers, well you'll only have yourselves to blame, because the man worthy of the red boots and cape need be a man, not a fucking idiot whose acting ability is on par with a 1960s porno - fuck you all!!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:19 p.m. CST

    R.I.P. Tom Bosley (Mr. Cunningham) and Barbara Billingsly (Mrs.

    by mr dark

    Thats a damn shame two beloved sitcom family members dead within a week of each other..I liked both of these actors and grew up with them..

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Routh is not Gay and he's great in the role..

    by CeejayNightwing

    Brandon Routh is married to the actress Courtney Ford who played the daughter of the serial killer and reporter fucking Quinn in last seasons DEXTER! (yeah we got to see her tits and watch her pussy get eaten to orgasm!) Brandon's superman was ten times less cheesy than Christopher Reeves but his Clark Kent was just as stupid! Brandon also had a way better physique than Reeve and had his flying motions mush more convincing that Reeves too. Anyone who's seen last seasons CHUCK can see he can act, definitely enough to play superman which is barely demanding but naturally the script has to be better than what they delivered with Superman Returns. No more Lex Luthor stories and for God's sake get a Lois Lane that's closer to Sandra Bullock than goofy, trashy Margot Kidder! Someone like the voluptuous Haley Atwell for example.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:36 p.m. CST

    for fuxake CeejayNightwing...

    by AllThosePowers

    ...you somekind of fucking idiot or wot? Who gives a fuck if he straight or gay!!! Your comments tell me a few things, primarily that you like to floss using the hair off Routh's arsehole!! Brandon's superman was ten times less cheesy than Reeves, I'll tell you one thing, say that in my pub and you get a good for that statement. And then you go on to sacrilege more of Reeves by claiming Routh's flying was demostrated/executed far better than what Reeve gave!? Are you Routh's boyfriend? because you sound like you got your mouth full again. Reeve actually flew for real, as a glider dickhead and with limited cgi, read this and go back to doing what you were doing; eating Routh

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Routh acquitted himself nicely

    by JonQuixote

    in a nearly impossible job. They won't be able to cast anybody better.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:48 p.m. CST

    YOU EAFTINGIONS ARE UNWORTHY

    by NippleEffect

    of the last son of krypton

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Superman should go to an unknown actor

    by brocknroll

    Hate to break it to ya Routh, Hamm and Welling nerds, but I think Nolan and Snyder would go for an unknown actor for Superman. Nobody knew who Chris Reeve was at the time. Nobody knew who Brandon Routh was as well. Superman should not go to a big name star. Don't be surprised if Nolan and Snyder goes for someone we've never even heard before.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 1:52 p.m. CST

    YOU MISSPELLED EARFINGTONS

    by NippleEffect

    dork

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Stalkeye

    by AsimovLives

    How wrong you are. If you think that i can't change my mind, then how come i love JACOB'S LADDER? Because you have no idea how low of an opinion i had of Adrian Lynn because of FATAL ATTRACTION and FLASHDANCE. I change opinion when the movie gives me reason to. Most oftehn, it doesn't happen. But when it happens, it happens. The truth of the matter is, i0'm far more flexible about movie then the vast majority of the geeks here. It's just that i'm very frontal with my opinions, and i don't disguise them with PC bullshit.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Routh was good, but my vote is for Ken Jeong.

    by AzulTool

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Been waitin for the right moment

    by NippleEffect

    to drop this here: http://tinyurl.com/24trp8q<p> it's a SCP Foundation story so...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Armie Hammer is the best choice for MOS.

    by UltimaRex

    Period.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Hamm might be a good Supes, but a TERRIBLE Kent

    by Wolfman Nards

    There is no way Jon Hamm can pull off a nerdy nobody. I had no sentimental attachment to the Donner movies and no sexual attraction to Routh. I just thought he was good with the material he was given. Then again, I thought SR was a good movie - minus the kid. What I think Routh did best was he gave off an "other worldly" vibe. And I don't see a Reeves connection with him at all.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Some baby named Routh.

    by Tikidonkeypunch

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Armie Hammer though, guys?

    by Wolfman Nards

    Seriously?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Yes.

    by UltimaRex

    Seriously.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Armie Hammer, not good choice

    by brocknroll

    I looked at Armie's photos online and he doesn't have that Superman look, sorry, not a good choice, next please.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Armie Hammer is a great choice.

    by Nerd Rage

    He's not only got the right size, but he's also got a square jaw, booming voice, and solid acting ability.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Tom Hardy as Lex

    by Cobb05

    I think he'd be badass.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST

    http://tinyurl.com/36njc3n

    by UltimaRex

    Missed that one? If you need a point of reference... http://tinyurl.com/37ud9qy that's the first Superman pic I found too. I can get more which are closer. <p>Not to mention he's the best actor in the right age range. <p> Armie Hammer FTW.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    ROUTH "IS" ESSENTIALLY AN UNKNOWN ACTOR

    by Darth Busey

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:39 p.m. CST

    DUDE DOES ONE THING RIGHT...AND THAT'S PLAY CLARK KENT

    by Darth Busey

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    SUPERMAN RETURNS SUCKED BECAUSE THE SCRIPT BLEW

    by Darth Busey

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    ROUTH NOT TO BLAME

    by Darth Busey

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Tom Welling as Clark Kent on the big screen

    by SmokingRobot

    I would far, far rather see that than one more 're-invention'. He is the best Clark Kent, EVER.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Routh the cum bucket Singer party favor

    by Youngblood

    Routh isn't gay! He only gobbles dick because of desperation for work. So quit saying he is gay!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Kaplan, Deschanel or Jones for Lois

    by tensticks

    In that order.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:48 p.m. CST

    boyish Armie Hammer, the fratboy Superman

    by Youngblood

    He sucks. Not literally in the Routh dick-sucking-for-work kind of way, but in the bad idea kind of way. We have no need of seeing boyish Superman ever again. Hell, we just went through 10 years of boyish Superman.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Jon Hamm: the SuperMAN

    by Youngblood

    HAMMBOOT! HAMMBOOT! HAMMBOOT!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Did you want Nolan to bring back KILMER OR CLOONEY???

    by phallix trebek

    Then why rehash Routh?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Plus you don't need creepy blue contacts for Hammer

    by Nerd Rage

    Like Routh did. He looked weird with fake blue eyes.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    I think Hammer is probably a better choice than Routh...

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    But he's still too young. Maybe by the time it actually gets around to filming he'll look a bit more mature.</p><p>I think Hammer should and probably will play a superhero at some point because he has the looks and physique of one. I'm just not sure Superman is the best fit. Maybe Green Arrow or Aquaman or the Flash?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Superman: Father of all superheroes

    by Youngblood

    It is time to see that gravitas on screen. It is time for Superman's place in history to be honored. No SuperBOY. It is time for the Father Of All Superheroes to show what he is capable of in his prime.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Hammer's voice ain't "boyish"

    by Nerd Rage

    He's got a superhero voice.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    HAMMBOOT! HAMMBOOT! HAMMBOOT!

    by Youngblood

    Jon Hamm is the man to bring us the Father Of All Superheroes.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    unparanoid_android...

    by UltimaRex

    That's because he's usually cast as such but he has range. <p>http://tinyurl.com/3xqq74v <p>http://tinyurl.com/34mjnb7 <p>As for why I care? I think that's obvious. I want a new Superman series. Ask the few who called for the death of CBM's within earshot of me where I stand. Take that and double it. Double it again. Double it again. That's where I stand on Superman. There are apparently script problems. I REALLY don't want there to be actor problems. Hammer's the right age with the right look (Superman without Reeve clone) and right chops thanks to tsn. <p>Armie Hammer FTW.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:58 p.m. CST

    The Judger re. band of brothers

    by ragingfluff

    i don't know the name of the actor but I'm guessing you're referring to Captain Black ... he is in Gossip Girl now

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Chris Evan's looks boyish

    by Nerd Rage

    Not Armie Hammer. That dude looks like a man.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Hammer's looks are boyish

    by Youngblood

    That's his big selling point to the suits. These are the same producers who cast way too young last time. They heard all the complaints about Routh and Bosworth looking way too young and respond by wanting to cast even younger this time. Superman movie producers are idiots. They always are. These particular brand of idiocy of these producers is always envisioning Superman as very young.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Hire Tom Welling

    by Youngblood

    You want "Young Superman"? There you go. They won't find anyone better or anyone the audience likes better as "Young Superman". However, if like MOST PEOPLE you are tired of Young Superman, then you won't do better than Jon Hamm.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Never seen Mad Men

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    I googled his picture and sure I can see him playing Superman.</p><p>I still kind of hope some no-name guy will come forward and look exactly like Jim Lee's Superman. Aquiline features and built like a fucking tank.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:08 p.m. CST

    HAMMBOOT! HAMMBOOT! HAMMBOOT!

    by Youngblood

    Jon Hamm is the man to bring us the Father Of All Superheroes.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Youngblood...

    by UltimaRex

    "I certainly haven't been informed of that. They might want to run that by me. I don't know, I think unless Superman's power was the power of being really old... I maybe aged out of that competition." <p>-Jon Hamm.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST

    SR had a 25yo playing a 29yo

    by UltimaRex

    Youngblood wants a 40yo playing a 25yo...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Routh and Superman Returns were awesome .. Fuck off all haters

    by Sloppy2nds

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    armie hamme

    by atm216

    Why is this guy the nerd flavor of the moment. He looks like every other one tree hill douche bag. Why not get dawson or pacey. Id rather see fat kilmer as superman. Or the old spice black guy. That would get the minorities into the cinema

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST

    STM had a 25yo playing a 30yo...

    by UltimaRex

    How's about a 25yo playing a 25yo, just to shake things up? <p>Armie Hammer FTW!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Whether or not the article is false...

    by r0gue

    this should prove that a majority still want Routh. I know I do.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:25 p.m. CST

    But nobody wants a 25yo Young Superman this time

    by Youngblood

    That's your biggest mistake UltimaRex. Everyone wants a Superman in his 30s - LIKE HE IS IN THE COMIC BOOKS. Only brain damaged producers are fixated on Young Superman. Everyone else just wants Real Superman.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:25 p.m. CST

    atm216...

    by UltimaRex

    You're not taking this seriously...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:26 p.m. CST

    A majority want a railroad spike in their ass?

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    I know I don't.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:32 p.m. CST

    BTW, I've never seen Superman Returns

    by ragingfluff

    so I'm not going to comment on any casting for the next one .... is the film worth renting? And the News of the World is a rag I wouldn't use to wipe my arse ... I wouldn't even let the cat piss on it ... and the fact that a supposed statesman writes for it - about football, of all things - is just an embarrassment for Ireland ... go have a look on You Tube at the ads with Bertie in the cupboard. Go on, I'll wait ...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    r0gue - The majority want Welling

    by Youngblood

    He crushes Routh in every petition and poll. Welling has far more fans than Routh. That is the hard truth. If Snyder is casting on the basis of internet hype, then Welling would be a done deal. Luckily, I think that rumor is bullshit. Snyder will cast who he wants and fandom size will have neither jack nor shit to do with it. After working with Jon Hamm on Sucker Punch, everyone else will pale in comparison.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    jeane claude van damne

    by atm216

    Hot off the stupid british presses. JCVD is confirmed as being catwoman. Pip pip cheerio

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:33 p.m. CST

    JUST TOOK A LOOK AT HAMM...

    by Astronut

    Never saw him before till right now. And holy crap if he would not be awesome as an older, more seasoned Superman. WOW!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Is there a Razzie Award for casting?

    by gun_will_travel

    Just askin'.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Wil Smiffs Brat IS Zod

    by NippleEffect

    because one of them ain't been in a movie for a couple weeks

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Youngblood - I should of kept reading

    by r0gue

    I only got thru half of the comments before i got tired of read them. I only assumed Routh at this point. As much as i love Tom and the great job he's done on Smallville, i still lean towards Brandon. I think he's a better movie Supes, and Welling a better TV Supes.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Snyder won't cast based on twitter spamming

    by Youngblood

    SHOCKING NEWS FLASH: This whole idea is laughable bullshit! The idea that Snyder will look at internet polls to decide his cast is retarded. What director ever does that? He will go with who he personally wants to work with. Did Nolan ditch Ledger because internet fans hated the idea of him and started huge petitions against him? NO. He went with his own gut, like all directors do.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    I want JOHN WILLIAMS'S MUISC back more than Routh

    by Drath

    The Williams music just IS Superman, and should continue to be used in a reboot just as the James Bond theme was kept. But Routh? He brings a lot of baggage with that inconvenient bastard love child. I can't say recasting will be very easy though--unless they get Henry Cavill or John Hamm, but I know they won't. Tom Welling has too weak a chin in my opinion that's worth nothing.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    This whole thread is like

    by NippleEffect

    the wrath of the dingle-berries<p> A Whole Bunch Of Wannabee Turds

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Youngblood...

    by UltimaRex

    Who's everyone? Everyone on here? Drop in the ocean and a moot point. WE ARE GETTING A 25 YEAR OLD SUPERMAN ANYWAY. I wanted an SR sequel back in the day which WOULD OF HAD A SUPERMAN IN HIS 30S. But oh no SR didn't make enough profit and then all the fanboys (yes, you) dug in with "boring" "gay" "stalker" "deadbeat dad" "Singerman" and the rest so now we are back to SQUARE ONE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT A REBOOT (which was asked for by fanboys) DOES. If you want to talk brain damage the mirror is right there. Me? I'm going to support the best actor there is for the Superman we're getting in the hope this one MAKES IT TO HIS 30S. <p>Armie <p>Hammer <p>For <p>MOS!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST

    i thought the superman score was by John Barry

    by ragingfluff

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST

    NOTW dont make stuff up

    by you-me-n-marley

    Macaulay Culkin was fantastic as the young Luke Skywalker in the PT

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:50 p.m. CST

    any word on the Nicolas Cage Superman?

    by ragingfluff

    or has that died a death?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    I'm worried

    by Sprinky

    I'm not at all ease with Zack Snyder at helm of a Superman movie. I like Nolan but this could be the kryptonite on his resume if it fails. Brandon routh should train more. He wasn't as buffed as Christopher Reeve was in the Superman role. And if i sound way pessimistic that's because i feel i was denied a great Superman movie for far too long and i'm afraid giving my trust again only to be dissapointed big time.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4 p.m. CST

    Superman is eternally in his 30's in the comics

    by Youngblood

    That is what people want to see. They want to see him in his natural state. Brain dead movie producers keep casting him in his early 20s. JUST SO THEY CAN PISS EVERYBODY OFF APPARENTLY. If they want to make a Superboy movie so badly, why not do both? Better yet, have the Superboy movie star Kon-El. Brain dead producers get their boyish Twilight bait and Superman fans get a Superman in his prime. Win-win

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4 p.m. CST

    No one over 25 likes the shit called Superman Returns

    by Professor_Monster

    All you fucks grew up in the shit time of movies - none of you were there for stuff like BTTF, Raiders - you only have Michael Bay and Roland Emmerich movies to go by when forming an opinion - Routh suuuuuuucks - accept it

  • I mean ten years of character buildup..what more do you need...and Yes bring back michal R. as Lex...they all deserve a chance.EXCEPT MEGAN FOX....NO NO NO!!!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Tim Burton Superman >>>> Superballerina Returns

    by Youngblood

    That's right. Admit it. Even if it was a train wreck, at least you would be entertained. You would be on the edge of your seat, eyes popped open to catch every bit of the insanity. And it would look great instead of Singer's filmed through a dirty river look. You would have watched Burton's film over and over again, just to be sure you weren't imagining it.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Youngblood...

    by UltimaRex

    Let me try this again. You want a Superman in his 30s right?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Kingdom Come animated like Polar Express

    by Professor_Monster

    now that I would pay for.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Superman Returns was great !!!!

    by 10thDoctor

    @Prof. Monster- I'm 35 and LOVED Superman Returns. stop speaking out of ignorance, and for everyone. do you personally know everyone on this planet ?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:24 p.m. CST

    TOM WELLING FOR YOUNG SUPERMAN!!!!!!!!!

    by Youngblood

    Because when you are casting Young Superman you might as well hire Young Superman. But who is insane enough to want a movie about Young Superman instead of Superman in his prime?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Superman Returns was great !!!!

    by 10thDoctor

    @Prof. Monster- I'm 35 and LOVED Superman Returns. stop speaking out of ignorance, and for everyone. do you personally know everyone on this planet ?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Jon Ham as Superman: Father Of All Superheroes

    by Youngblood

    YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO SEE THAT!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST

    KON-EL AS SUPERBOY

    by Youngblood

    Hire that pasty limey from Twilight and rake in the money! It's such a genius idea, that I now qualify as a Hollywood producer!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Reboot = New Actor for Supes

    by Nautilus_nrm1

    Some of us aren't Routh or Welling haters. Aside from the kid, I was okay with the Superman Returns, and I've been liking the way Smallville has evolved. It should have been re-titled Metropolis or Justice League however. My point is still, if Nolan and Snyder are set on rebooting the franchise, they're not going to go with an actor tied to another "Superman universe". Its makes perfect sense to want to recast. They'll either go with an relatively unknown actor, or they'll choose someone who has been rising to the A-lists. My bet is the latter, like Nolan did with Christian Bale. Christian Bale would be nowhere without his performance in American Psycho - its what opened him up to the big roles. So there, go and speculate... who ready to break out and go big?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Mel Gibson as Lex Luthor

    by Youngblood

    He has the charisma to sway the masses. He has the scary insanity and intensity. What say ye?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Jon Hamm is destined to be superstar

    by Youngblood

    Jon Hamm is ready to break out big. <p> HAMMBOOT HAMMBOOT HAMMBOOT

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:46 p.m. CST

    Youngblood, I would agree on Jon Hamm

    by Nautilus_nrm1

    He's being seen in the Hollywood community of a rising star from the small to the big screen. He's got to be on the short list, if he hasn't already auditioned or been offered the part on the sly.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Cast Welling, R.I.P Superman.

    by UltimaRex

    I'm serious. This movie is part of the ongoing lawsuit. From what I understand, if MOS fails the heirs could take the rights and not give them back effectively killing Superman. Cast Welling and MOS will fail.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:51 p.m. CST

    25 y/o supes? Who wants that?

    by jalfredprufrock

    Seriously? Maybe I'm off here, but Superman is supposed to be a character who's looked up to. I don't want some guy my age who's fresh out of grad school. I think I'm getting behind this Hammboot thing. The guy looks a good five years younger than he really is, anyway.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Butler was almost as old as Hamm

    by jalfredprufrock

    When he did 300. Something to consider.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Repost...

    by UltimaRex

    "I certainly haven't been informed of that. They might want to run that by me. I don't know, I think unless Superman's power was the power of being really old... I maybe aged out of that competition." <p>-Jon Hamm.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    As for Routh

    by jalfredprufrock

    He looked like I could take him in a barfight. The character needs some gravitas.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:02 p.m. CST

    In 2013 heirs take back the rights no matter what

    by Youngblood

    Doesn't matter what the movie does. 2013 is THE END. The only way DC is keeping the character or WB is doing more movies is for them to pay big upfront money to buy back the character. WB has NOT been paying the heirs their cut, thanks to Hollywood accounting tricks. Every actor knows not to expect any residuals because of that. Actors negotiate to get their money upfront. The heirs DO NOT TRUST WB to pay them their legal and fair cut. They want to be paid UPFRONT. Time Warner is doing everything it can to weasel out of that. That could cost hundreds of millions of dollars. When Warner is tired of delaying the inevitable and pays out the upfront money, then and only then will more movies be made.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Another vote for Routh

    by Phimseto

    Would love to see him return to the role. He was one of the things that worked in Superman Returns.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:04 p.m. CST

    jalfredprufrock...

    by UltimaRex

    All the fanboys who wanted a reboot. Reboot means back to square one. Square one means 25. It could be worse. Hoody boy in Superman: Earth One is 21. The best that can happen is the right actor gets cast so Superman can actually get to his 30s in the sequels. Armie Hammer is that actor. Why do you think I keep going on?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Re: As for Routh

    by Nautilus_nrm1

    Yea, they need to cast older, someone who looks to be in his early- to mid-thirties. If I was a betting man, Nolan and Snyder are going to us a template similar to Batman Begins.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Uh..

    by Sprinky

    Reeve was 24 when he was cast but looked older while Lois lane's Margot Kidder was even a few years older. Routh was 24, was the right Clark Kent but frankly looked like a Superboy instead of man and was teamed with a woman that could've been a postergirl for young pregnant teens. Sometimes it's all about presence. Some have it, some don't.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Zooey-D for Lois...

    by workshed

    Yes please.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Re: Uh..

    by Nautilus_nrm1

    Exactly! You can dye the hair, put contacts in, puff up the suit with fake muscles, but they need someone with screen presence, someone who could be dropped into 50s Americana and blend in, yet still have charisma.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Bruce Campbell for Supes, cheers!

    by workshed

    He's the only man with the correct chin and physique/class/action credentials/fanboy-love to pull this off... no matter how old he his, He's still kickin' ass every week on Burn Notice.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Youngblood...

    by UltimaRex

    That's why MOS is being made and why it must succeed. If it's not in "production" by 2011 the heirs sue. If MOS isn't out by the end of 2012 the heirs sue. And then it has to be settled. MOS has to make money, not just for general business but to pay the lawsuit. Pay the lawsuit and Superman keeps on going and most people won't even notice. Don't pay (a Welling MOS bombs) and Superman is dead.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST

    @ by the_senator

    by donkingkong

    http://tinyurl.com/2f5g7x4 It's a work-in-progress, still being written.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:28 p.m. CST

    are you deaf UltimaRex?

    by Youngblood

    2013 is THE END. The heirs ARE ALREADY SUING! There is no "if the movie fails" bullshit. The heirs HAVE BEEN SUING FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS. The movie doesn't have jackshit to do with anything. 2013 is THE END.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:34 p.m. CST

    The ruling on ownership is done

    by Youngblood

    The only question Warner and the heirs are fighting over is HOW MUCH money is owed to the heirs for PAST usage and if Warner used Hollywood accounting gimmicks to screw the heirs out of rightful money. That is the ONLY fight still going on in the courts. THE OWNERSHIP FIGHT IS OVER. Do you get that? Is it sinking in? 2013 is THE END.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Will Routh be playing Christophher Reeves again?

    by Rob0729

    Or will he actually play Superman? I hated Routh because he brought nothing to the role other than a dead on imation of Christopher Reeves playing Superman/Clark Kent. Since that movie, he has shown he has absolutely no acting range other than that. Please! Oh pleaase! Bring someone else in who can bring something new to the role.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Ultima

    by jalfredprufrock

    While the Hamm quote you posted depresses me to no end, I could get behind Hammer as a second choice. Social Network showed he can act. I really hope they avoid an origin story this go round. Superman is ingrained in the American psyche. We don't need a reminder of his beginnings.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Routh was cool...

    by SlyAndTheFamilyStallone

    he deserves another shot.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Don't be too hard on NotW

    by raymonf

    Yes, News of the World is pretty notorious for fact checking, but that is not to say it is entirely misleading. They pay pretty well for their stories and have some regular and very accurate sources from within the industry that feed them with stories before even the snouts at web based pages get a whiff. I was a junior reporter there in the early 80's, straight out of university, and one of my first jobs was writing up a feed from David Prowse, about how major characters from Jedi were going to die. Of course, that proved inaccurate, but for whatever reason, the story did originate from him. The problem is, they often recieve information so early that the involved parties haven't even rubber stamped yet. I know for a fact that their policy on low end Showbiz stories - simply to fill space, which this is - is never to check for fear of denial and hence having to drop the item. That is pretty much the policy of all British red-tops. On another tabloid newspaper, which will remain nameless, I know that a piece regarding a new stand-alone Matrix movie, involving none of the original cast, apart from an option to reveal Keanu Reeves as some kind of deity at the conclusion, was scuppered recently because the reporter involved chose to follow up and was met with the inevitable denial. It doesn't mean it isn't true. And for the record, I thought Brandon was great in an otherwise terribly misjudged Superman movie.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:49 p.m. CST

    If the end is coming we need to see full on Superman

    by Youngblood

    When is the last time we saw Superman in his prime instead of Young Superman? Don't we deserve to see it once before the THE END comes? A real full on Superman adventure. None of this young man trying to find himself crap.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Snyder, the lawsuit

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Zack Snyder and his wife were interviewed in London for the UK premiere of the Gahoole movie and when asked about whether Brandon would be back his wife nudged him and she said it was "way too early to discuss any of that." I think Zack did initially say that Routh's return is "unlikely" (he said it VARIETY) but then with the campaigning for Routh he doesn't want to make any set statements about casting for the part yet, including Routh. I think Snyder doesn't really want Routh, but he is saying nothing now to appease Routh fans, which may include some studio people. But I hope he ultimately gets to decide what's best. <p> And yes, WB have to make a movie before 2012 or else they can be sued by the Siegels, but in 2013, Siegel and Shuster will win back the entire original rights to Superman and WB will have to pay a license fee to the Siegel and Shuster estates if they want to do anything else with the character.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Youngblood

    by Rommel Catuncan

    I hope it's not the end and WB pay up but I do want to see a full-on action movie for Superman if it is the end.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST

    I TOTALLY BELIEVE SNYDER WILL CAST BASED ON POLLS

    by Youngblood

    TOM WELLING IS 100% GOING TO BE CAST. I have faith in British journalism! Ye who call the limey liars shall be eating crow. Shame on your xenophobic selves!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Spacey was the worst thing about Superman Returns

    by elsewhere

    Talk about hamming it up to the camera.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:03 p.m. CST

    The Dead Set is finally airing in the USA!

    by vic twenty

    It begins on IFC Monday night. I'm excited as this should feed my zombie jones until The Walking Dead premieres. <p> Zack Snyder should cast the Wolf-boy from True Blood (not Sam Merlott - the newer guy). He can act and when clean shaven REALLY looks the part.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:04 p.m. CST

    I liked Routh, BUT THEY NEED TO BREAK ALL TIES!

    by planetran_fan

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Routh was a great Christopher Reed

    by SlickyVonBoner

    but a horrible superman. I'd rather see Tom Welling, but whoever it is better get huge like the Thor and Captain America actors. Comic book character need to be ripped like in the funny papers.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Youngblood...

    by UltimaRex

    So you listened to the brains but not me over the whole legal mess? If you hadn't supported Hammer I'd be a little upset...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Oh wait...

    by UltimaRex

    You didn't listen to the brains... OK I'm off to bed...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:29 p.m. CST

    UltimaRex

    by Rommel Catuncan

    I don't know about the Superman movie having to succeed and make money being part of the lawsuit, but if there is no movie by 2012, the Siegels can sue again. But Youngblood is right that in 2013 the Siegels and Shusters will have the rights, no matter what.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:35 p.m. CST

    No Routh. He's guilty by association.

    by Ivan_Mtl

    I'm against the potential casting of Brandon Routh in Zack Snyder's SUPERMAN. Superman Returns was an artistic failure (and that's being kind), and certainly did not live up to Warner's commercial expectations. I believe the slate has to be wiped clean. You can't have the audience wondering "what happened to Superman's son?" or "why are all the other characters being played by different actors?". As Hollywood already knows, never overestimate the intelligence of the average movie-goer.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:52 p.m. CST

    I Wish It Were True

    by KISSman24

    Routh is the best option. He completely captures the Christopher Reeve Superman that we have all grown to accept as THE live-action Superman. If the last Superman movie was flawed, it had nothing to do with him.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Megan Fox transformers

    by Rommel Catuncan

    I would like to have an unknown playing Superman and have him be surrounded with some name actors, like they've always done with the Superman movies. <p> If Routh were to return, that negates what Superman Returns did- wrapping up the Donner-era Superman story.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:03 p.m. CST

    The only things that need to carry over from the previous films

    by BarryConvex

    Routh and Williams' score.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Routh was fine...

    by vango

    ...but Superman Returns plot was not. I hold Singer accountable: I've been let down by everything he's done. (I thought his X-Men movies were watered down and pretty much "meh."

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Krypton Kid

    by oisin5199

    late for the party, but I've been saying the same things ever since the movie came out - that the 'stalker' and 'deadbeat dad' complaints are ridiculous, juvenile, and from braindead meatheads who have never had a date or, god forbid, a child. By no definition does Supes' act like a stalker. James Marsden's character was fantastic - still love the bit about 'how'd you get here?' 'I flew'. In Singer's version, Supes was more of a cypher for the other characters to play off, and it was about how he was returning to reclaim his position as earth's savior, so that by the end, he's restored, ready for the kick-ass sequel that never happened.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:14 p.m. CST

    They should also keep

    by Rommel Catuncan

    those spinning rings (cool), Bad Superman flicking peanuts (way cool), Bad Superman bedding Pamela Stephenson (badass), Gus (wizard), tar, Brando (guy didn't give a fuck), and that woman that turned into a robot via computer (ultimate badassery that nothing can top.)

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Singerman Mopes was dull but Routh was decent

    by Tall_Boy66

    However, I do cast my vote for the Armie Hammer camp. But I wouldn't mind seeing Routh again.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:22 p.m. CST

    I actually liked Spacey in that flick too

    by Tall_Boy66

    It was entertaining. The least of the problems I had with SR were the performances. It was just fairly dull plot wise, but it looked great and thought both Routh and Spacey were solid. But, yeesh, make a movie were Superman throws a frickin' punch please. "General, would you care to step outside" this movie was not.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST

    I voted in that News of the World poll

    by Rommel Catuncan

    I didn't vote for Routh, Welling or Hammer. I meant to vote "Other" but I may have voted for Aston Merrygold by mistake. I certainly didn't want to increase his numbers, though he certainly is a popular choice. Sorry!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:31 p.m. CST

    Spacey in Returns

    by Rommel Catuncan

    was kind of hammy. If Lex returns he should be more troubled and serious, not that smarmy routine all over again.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:31 p.m. CST

    JON HAMM IS SUPERMAN

    by LaserPants

    Hasn't this already been agreed upon by the cosmos? JON HAMM IS SUPERMAN.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Mad Men fan internet casting

    by Rommel Catuncan

    is not "the cosmos."

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:41 p.m. CST

    I hope this is true, Routh fucking Rocks!

    by ganymede3010

    Come on Zack, do the right thing, cast Routh! Fuck John Hamm, great actor, wrong for the role.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST

    SAVE MEGAN FOX petition

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Please sign: http://tinyurl.com/36gbgne

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Out of the smallville cast to make the jump: Rosenbaum

    by Tall_Boy66

    Imagine how many levels of fucked up it would be if Routh was Superman and Michael Rosenbaum was Luthor? Spacey was entertaining, Rosenbaum has the darker side. (But Spacey did have that bizarrely out of place yet still really dark moment when he stuck Supes with a kryptoite shiv)

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Routh was practically non existent as Clark

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    he was not half bad as the big blue peeping kryptononian though

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Routh must play supes, but if he can't

    by LostCause

    .... what about bones from the new star trek? I thought he had some supes potential in him, perfect facial structure for it...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 8:28 p.m. CST

    You can't trust the Brits when it comes to news

    by Nabster

    They're all sleazy there. Plus they have bad teeth. Did you know England is the worst place to live in Europe? It was in the news, google it if you don't believe me.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:07 p.m. CST

    If anything, Routh was better as Clark than Superman

    by Geekgasm

    And he was a terrific Superman.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:17 p.m. CST

    OISON599......preach brother. I too am so

    by southafricanguy

    sick of how juvenile and ridiculous the stlker and dead beat dad shit is. But unfortunatly this is the level to which fandom has sunk (also see the painfully juvenile thundersmurfs comments re Avatar). Its gotten to the point tht its become almost impossible to have adut, intelligent conversations about genre films anymore because so much of fandom appears to be afflicted with man-child syndrome, and bases their critique of everything on the most inane, pathetic, and flat out juvenile "insults" they can think of....

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Man I have watched every

    by Mockingbuddha

    episode of Smallville, and I'm not too proud of that. It was at it's best when Lana was being basically psychologically tortured by everyone around her including Tom Fracking Welling. These last two seasons have seen no acting from Welling that wasn't whiny crap with no expression. He is not a good actor, he can not play supes in a movie. You people who say otherwise are fools.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST

    AllThosePowers

    by CeejayNightwing

    YOU ARE A CHILD, your pub full of children is merely your classroom and the lot of you obviously still have much to learn! My comments about Rouths gender are in reply to much of the opening comments on this site claiming he was gay , he's not because the guys married and to a damn ho wife at that you pissant! As for his flying, i'm not talking about the special effects you asshole, it's his body actions and poses he performs to compliment the action of being in flight. Reeves was good at it, his was way better. You don't like it, fuck you and your boys club! This is a talkback for opinons, not a bloody Klu Klux Klan meeting you solitary retarded braincell!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Routh aped Reeves as Kent

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    did nothing original and did not have the effortless charm of reeves to even pull off the aping -he wasnt bad, just was nothing memorable and could easily be replaced

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Reeve not Reeves

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    my bad

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:22 p.m. CST

    instead of offering any real insight or anyhting

    by southafricanguy

    interesting about the film being discussed. Instead its more like sports team fans or religious fanatics where everything is absolutes, and flaws are blown so far out of proportion, or they latch onto the most bizarre, infantile crap to focus their hate on....

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:22 p.m. CST

    instead of offering any real insight or anyhting

    by southafricanguy

    interesting about the film being discussed. Instead its more like sports team fans or religious fanatics where everything is absolutes, and flaws are blown so far out of proportion, or they latch onto the most bizarre, infantile crap to focus their hate on....

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST

    singer made a boring movie

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    he is a better director than that, but he fucked up on supes because of his ridiculously slavish devotion to aping donner instead of producing something original and entertaining, like he was fuckin scared of fucking up something sacred or some shit, it was not a horrible movie but it was not good either. routh may have been a victim of singers obsession, but is nolan or synder gonna bank on that?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Glad to see there are other people that also

    by southafricanguy

    appreciate SR. I guess it just wasnt made for the ADD crowd. I liked its slower, more 70s style, almost classy approach. The effects are simply excellent imho, Routh was very good, and frankly I dont get the Reeve copyist nonsense either, Routh's Superman is certainly different. The cast was very good overall, and it captured the messianic, and immigrant themes of Superman very well.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:40 p.m. CST

    However, atthe same time I have to concede

    by southafricanguy

    to guys like Kobe, that Snge did make a big mistake in adhering to the Donner films so slavishly. He should have put more of his own stamp on it, made it more of its own film. And I dont think it helped that the story structure was essentially a loose remake of Donner's original film...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:42 p.m. CST

    diff'rnt strokes for diff'rnt folks

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    some folks cant take others disagreeing with them as if their opinion is sacred and conclusive - no wonder some on here align with the asimovs of the world

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:42 p.m. CST

    And another big action set piece would not

    by southafricanguy

    have hurt. Especially with Supes fighting something that poses a real threat. And the use of Lex Lthor yet again did nt help either. So while I will always argue that its a really good film, and that Routh was an excellent Superman, its clear that Singer failed to make the "type" of Superman film that was needed to re-ignite Superman'spopularity ith fim goers....

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:44 p.m. CST

    HEYKOBE.....are you referring to me?

    by southafricanguy

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:45 p.m. CST

    They WILL NOT allow Routh anywhere near this production...

    by elgato73

    Simply because they have gone on record and said this new film will not connect to any previous Donner/Singer-verse films. And they better fucking do that too because if they don't, I and millions of other people are going to be pissed. We're sick of the Donnerverse and Superman Returns. If they cast young, and give us a younger Superman that's fine. But don't give us a straight up origin story. That would kill this thing.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Anyway....;I just want t say that one of the

    by southafricanguy

    main reasons would also like Routh to be given another shot is that I hate when an iconic part is played by too many actors, as in they chop and change the actor often. Its meant to be really special for an actor to portray a very iconic character, and look how ridiculous it is that in three films now, the Hulk will be played by three totally different actors. It just ruins something about Hulk for me. I dont want the same thing with Superman...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:48 p.m. CST

    yup

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    although i liked what you said about singer later on

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:49 p.m. CST

    it should be a select club as it were ala

    by southafricanguy

    Bond, Batman, Captain Kirk etc...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:51 p.m. CST

    yeah iconic james bond totally ruined by too many actors

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    gimme a break -supes has been played by more than 3 actors ya know

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Best thing from Smallville

    by EpilepticLurcher

    was that they had a Lex Luthor that had the future possibility of being elected president of the USA, not the uber-estate agent surrounded by idiots of the movies. Best screen Lex ever - supersmart evil billionaire, not some con-man ripping off old ladies by marrying them.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:52 p.m. CST

    HEYKOBE.....dude, where do you see me hav

    by southafricanguy

    ing a problem with anyone eles view on Superman films, or who should play him? I simply bemoaned the lack of adult conversation/debate on the matter as opposed to the juvenile crap like stalker and dead beat dad stuff....So dont aim that shit at me pal...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:54 p.m. CST

    HeyKobe...im talking about film only. What

    by southafricanguy

    exactly is your problem? Its simply my opinion (something I actually have the ability to distinguish from fact) and nothing more regarding what I said. Please remove the giant stick from your ass....

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:55 p.m. CST

    you and anyone else are most welcome to

    by southafricanguy

    disagree with me 100%

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:57 p.m. CST

    maybe you should go back and read the cont

    by southafricanguy

    ent of your own post. It would appear the one here having problems seeig their opinion as sacred and conclusive is you....

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Superman has been around for over 70 years

    by southafricanguy

    and has had numerous versions, adaptations, takes on he character in various media so obviously opinions will be sharply divided regarding every aspect of the character....

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 9:59 p.m. CST

    bullshit sag

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    or did you forget this line? <p> "appreciate SR. I guess it just wasnt made for the ADD crowd. I liked its slower, more 70s style, almost classy approach" <p> or howsabout this one? <p>"I hate when an iconic part is played by too many actors, as in they chop and change the actor often." <p> dude, you just contradicted yourself "where do you see me having a problem with anyone eles view on Superman films, or who should play him?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST

    take the stick with asi's shit out of your mouth sag

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    i hate hypocrites, your opinion is one thing, but denigrating others opinion, and the turn around and saying ""where do you see me having a problem with anyone eles view on Superman films, or who should play him?" is fucking hypocritical bullshit of highest degree , so either accept that you are just as bad as those you decry or shut defuck up

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Can We Have More

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    Deadbeat dad-ing in this one too?? Faster than a speeding paternity test! Able to leap court-ordered wage garnishment in a single bound! It's Singerman!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:05 p.m. CST

    ELGATO73.....but the interesting thing is

    by southafricanguy

    that I wonder if they would be able to not consider Routh as we now know this film is being rushed into production due to the clicking clock Warners/DC have over their heads to get another Supes film made. It would appear they wont have a huge amount of time to search for the perfect actor (and imho Supes is one of those chracters that needs to be played by the perfect actor for the part). And All previous directors (Donner, Ratner, McG, Singer) have spoken about how much trouble they all had finding the right actor, and how many actors turn the part down for a variety of reasons. And since Routh has already done it and is thus prepared, and he was pretty good imho (I know this part is subjective), I do wonder if they will be forced to seriously consider him anyway....

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST

    For freak's sake, Tom Bosley is still dead!

    by ReportAbuse

    Why no obit yet? The voice of Charlie in Charlie's Angels is gone forever. (What's that you say?)

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:08 p.m. CST

    HEYKOBE.....are you naturally this fucking

    by southafricanguy

    stupid? Or do you practice? Listen here you dumb cunt..did you miss the part where It says "I hate" as in its just my feeling dipshit. And if you think me saying ADD crowd applies to you, then that says far more about you. You are just insulting yourself as you automatically associate yourself or any one else with my ADD comment.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:12 p.m. CST

    And dont project your issues with Asimov onto

    by southafricanguy

    me either asshole. If you have some personal beef with him, go find him and start a fight with him. All my posts here re Superman are nothing more than me expressing my opinion. If you are either too fucking dumb to understand that, or blinded by whatever the fuck your issues with Asimov are that you pathetically try to twist what I said in my posts when its quite clear Im just stating my opinion and nothing else...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:17 p.m. CST

    sag go suck asi's asshole - again

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    did you forget what you wrote lemme remind ya <p>"where do you see me having a problem with anyone eles view on Superman films, or who should play him?" <p> so asshole, when someone else says they "hate" singers movie or routh or they THINK it was a stalker thing, they are in the wrong, but when YOU say it, it is just a feeling and thats ok? get defuck outta here. you cant stand when someone disagrees with you - you fucking argued all year long about avatar just like asi does over star trek now you are doing same thing with sr, you are a fucking hypocritical, goat fucking (appropriate for what i have heard about some on this site) cum sucking who hates when people point out that you do the same fucking thing you complain about in others

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Its obvious you are looking for a fight simply

    by southafricanguy

    because I get alng with Asimov, that much s clear from your thinnly veiled attempt to insult me by implying that I cant see others points of view because of an association with Asimov...Grow the fuck up you man-child afflicted fanboy, dont take your shit and feelings of inadequacy out on me...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST

    (and imho Supes is one of those chracters

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    that needs to be played by the perfect actor for the part) - southafricangirl But that means BJ CAN'T come back! Because an actor he isn't..... Do any of the BJ fans here not realize that Hollywood has judged Routh, and decided they will "pass" on him? Name ONE film he has starred in in the 4 years since Singerman Peeps! ONE!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Whatever Kobe.......go fuck yourself you child

    by southafricanguy

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST

    And for the love of God..please stop projecting

    by southafricanguy

    your bestiality fantasies onto others, just because you want to fuck a farm animal, does nt mean I do....

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST

    no sag, answer my points directly and stop using asi

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    answer how your opinion is ANY different or better than others? <p> as for asi, i have generally left him alone until this evening in the van damme tb when he went off on van damme wishing him to die. in fact i said this and check the time stamp dickhead <p>asi - time to change your meds and your diaper by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tast es Oct 19th, 2010 08:07:20 PM i never piled on when others ripped you for your monomania, but dude wishing that on anyone aint cool

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST

    DEADBEATDAD.....dude, its purely subject

    by southafricanguy

    ive re Routh. He either worked for you, or he didnt. And ultimatly, if they dont use him, so be it. Its only a film at the end of the day, and the world wont stop spinning based on who the fuck ends up playing Superman in Snyder's film...

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Give Welling a shot

    by jonnyfingers

    It won't happen but I wouldn't mind seeing him in the role. Pretty decent fan made showreel for him here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bIMYgl5yp8

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:29 p.m. CST

    He Didn't Work Period.

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    Just give me a few reasons why you think he "deserves" another shot. Not "Well, I just think he was great". Because YOU are not casting the film. Just give examples, and be ready for a counter argument.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST

    ahh, poor sag, beats the avatar horse dead

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    like he did for a fucking solid year, now gets exposed for the flaming hypocrite he is and cant take the heat - boo hoo <p>

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Ok Kobe....here goes....I call bullshit on

    by southafricanguy

    accusation, and heres why, when I have arguments with other people its almost always in regards to fatual matters. I have never attacked someone simply because they dont like something I dont, and I have siad this to many in the TB. Almost all insults I throw are at the trolls that spam certain TBs constantly repating themselves. Or when what they say is simply fabricated nonsense. Case in point, Transformersapologist went o for months how Avtar would be a huge bomb, he literally spammed the TBs with that. Now aftert the fact, and proven very wrong, he has yet to cop to it. Nevermind that after that he went on ad naseum about how the DVDs would nt sell...20million dvd/blurays later....he still does nt cop to it. Now idiots like him I will gladly insult any day..

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:31 p.m. CST

    hey sag someone mentioned they hate avatar

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    in the tron tb - go get em tiger!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:33 p.m. CST

    What heat Kobe? So far all you are doing is

    by southafricanguy

    accusing me of made up shit. Im not the onethat goes into TBs for films I hate or dont give a shit about to start fights, or spam it full of my opinion.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:41 p.m. CST

    self serving bullshit sag

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    yeah, so you go off on trolls and spammers, big fucking deal everyone does. it aint them im talking about its the people who just dont like what you like. you spent a whole fucking year popping up on every tb about avatar ready to battle anyone who said it was not a great movie, so much so that people thought you were a fucking plant, as monomaniacal as asi is over star trek - no wonder you get along. and it aint hating on asi to point out his well earned rep as being a star trek troll, well i liked avatar but it was not a great movie. so you got something to say to me? ill bet your fingers are just twitching now, just dying to tell me how wrong i am and how the great lord cam'ron will smite me -but you cant because i just outted you, so you will slink off muttering some nonsense and go beat puppies until you get off, you are a bitch, a hypocritical self serving, self justifying bitch, i hate hypocrites

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:43 p.m. CST

    btw i made up that part about someone in tron tb

    by Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    hating on avatar, ill bet you checked it out though didnt you bubbeh?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 10:55 p.m. CST

    so that means only a couple of seconds of Welling in the suit th

    by Meadowe

    It's basiqally the same suit as in Superman Returns, like certain other people have commented, they should give him the role since he's built up to it for a decade.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:02 p.m. CST

    The Routh support is appalling and makes me want to puke

    by bottombrick

    Superman is both a Man and an Olympian, Routh was neither. I don't care if an actor is gay or not, but Singer styled and directed him as a fey underwear model-like pansy with no character or grit and that representation is indelibly stamped in the viewing public's memory. REBOOT! You have to look past your petty tastes in his looks and charms and accept he is a terrible Superman, he does not have the gravity or manhood to support the mythos.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:12 p.m. CST

    Tom Bosley as Luthor...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Tom Bosely as Luthor...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    awww..fuck!

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:20 p.m. CST

    KOBE.....actually no, sorry to dissapont your

    by southafricanguy

    fantasy version of me, but I did not check anything out in the Tron TB becasue I dont go to TBs about subjects I have no interest.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:23 p.m. CST

    And aside from looking to take your shit with

    by southafricanguy

    Asimov out on me, you are also apparantly a liar. Please show me where the fuck I popped up in unrelated TBS with the intent purpose to say anything about Avatar. And it really shows what a liar you are since if you did go look at my old posts in Avtar related TBS, you will see that I have mentioned numerous times that I was dissapointed with Avatar, and liked the universe that had been created far more than what I liked the film. But hey Kobe, why should we let facts get in the way of the fight your e looking to have?

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:24 p.m. CST

    Yo! Mr C!

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    was not the voice of Charlie! That was John Forsythe. And why the fuck is everyone always so nasty? Whatever...I liked Routh - or I didn't dislike him: the script just sucked. And could Spacey scream some more? What was he doing, his Pacino impersonation? None of it matters - total reboot coming. Let's see some fucking action! Maybe Snyder should watch the first 'Iron Man' flick, to see how it's done.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:27 p.m. CST

    but then you have compared me talking about

    by southafricanguy

    Avatar (both good and bad) in Avatar TBs to Asimovs crusade against Trek. So that alone proves how much you make shit up. You hate hypocrites? Too bad you dont hate liars...but then you would have to hate yourself.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST

    If you want to level such accusations against

    by southafricanguy

    someone Kobe, then put up or shut up. Please provide actual proof. And by proof I dont mean taking one or two lines out of context from one of my posts and then twisting it.

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:36 p.m. CST

    And you have a pair of balls saying what I

    by southafricanguy

    am is self-serving. What the fuck is what you are doing? To tell me not to hide behind Asimov, yet who brought him up? Who could nt hide their hatred of Asimov by using him as a way of insulting me? You know what I hate Kobe? Dishonest people that project onto others....

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:39 p.m. CST

    So, if you are going to accuse me of being

    by southafricanguy

    hypocrite, then Im calling you out on being a total liar. Prove where I went into non-Avatar TBS with the intention of telling anyone how great it was. I know you cant do this because you cant disprove my numerous posts where I talked about my dissapointment with it, and my hope that any sequal is much better....

  • Oct. 19, 2010, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Deadbeatdad...whats the point? For you he

    by southafricanguy

    did nt work at all, so be it. To be honest I think all this talk is purely acedemic anyway as I have a feeling Snyder will indeed just look for someone else completely not asscociated with any prior Superman.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:01 a.m. CST

    southafricangoyl

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    Cool, then you and the Routhian's can stop grasping for straws. Especially obviously made-up ones. His "first interview"? I think not.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:01 a.m. CST

    Routh Nailed Superman, Bring Him BACK!

    by DarthGuinness

    I loved Singer's Superman. I don't get all the hate. I thought it was a damn near perfect reboot. I really hope Routh reprises the role.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Anybody would be better than Welling

    by Akira Cowabunga

    Tom Welling is a vacuum within a vacuum. But Brandon Routh didn't impress me either. That might have had to do with the terrible job Singer did with the film. Still, I'd like to see another unknown take on the role. Start completely fresh.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:05 a.m. CST

    jinxed by being another origin story

    by thomasjarvis

    I've never even seen an episode of 'Mad Men' in my life, but watching Jon Hamm appear on numerous talk shows, I'm beginning to see why he would make an appealing Supes. But it seems it will never happen, because the script is aleardy locked in as an origin story, about Clark Kent deciding whether he even wants to becocome Superman, which implies and age of 25 or under. UNLESS, they totally think outside the box, and have clark not even decide to first donn the cape untill he's at lest 35. Which would be a brilliant move, actually. YES!!! That's how they should do it. If it were up to me, they would make the visual style and overall tone of this film an art-decco mixture of the Max Fleischer animated shorts, 'Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow', and 'Dark City'. It doesn't literally have to be set in the 1940s, just give it a 1940's art deco feel having it take place in its own unique timeless reality. Like 'Dark City' or even 'The Shadow' (regardless of how lackuster that particular adaptation may well have been). Make it a weird blend of art-deco 40's and bright technicolor 1950's americana. Like Lynch's Blue Velvet, it's a comfortable and safe all-American 'Laeve It to Beaver' cultre that is suddenly threatened by a hideous, inexplicable evil, that only the Man of Steel can face down...

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:06 a.m. CST

    I will even be man enough to retract my ADD

    by southafricanguy

    comment and apologize to anyone I may have offended with it. So sorry to anyone that took personal insult in me saying SR was not for the ADD crowd. I was wromg to say so..

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:09 a.m. CST

    DarthGuinness

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    You don't "get" the well-deserved HATE for Singerman, but thought it was "a damn near perfect reboot"? Jesus, there is something wrong with YOU.... Singerman, more powerful than a drivers license revocation!

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:09 a.m. CST

    deadbeatdad.....sure, whatever if that makes

    by southafricanguy

    you happy. I was under the assumption we were just shooting the shit and speaking our minds as is common in TBs. My world does not hinge on who will play Superman. I hope you are nt taking it too seriously either....

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:12 a.m. CST

    DarthGuinness

    by Akira Cowabunga

    You don't get the hate? You don't get a lot of things, so you? I hated the lame plot, I hated the super baby, I hated Lois Lane, I hated the tired retread plot of bringing Luthor back. There was one exciting scene - the airplane rescue over the ballpark. Otherwise it was a crappy salute to a movie that doesn't hold up very well these days. Get it?

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:14 a.m. CST

    southafricangoyl

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    Oh come on. After all of your bullshit on here, all of a sudden "I don't care"? You started off insulting the people who didn't like that piece of shit flop. Remember?

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Singerman Was A DeadBeat Hero!

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    "Up, up and away from responsibility!"

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Are we now finished insulting each other, and

    by southafricanguy

    accusing each other of being assholes Kobe? If so, I would dearly love to stop talking about things that have fuck all to do with this TB, and get back to talking about Superman...

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Routh was as good as any one could be.

    by Mundungus

    SR had bad pacing. Weak story.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Routh Was As Bad As HE Could Be.

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    SR had a shitty lead, horrid costume design, soap opera bullshit and a boring story. And that's just the first half! BJ Routh is stumping at 'cons charging $60 to take a picture with him. Stick a fork in him, he's done.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:27 a.m. CST

    Parker Posey should've been Lois in SR...

    by thomasjarvis

    Bosworth is what ruined 'Superman Returns' for me. How could Singer possibly have thought that Bosworth would make a better replacement for Margot Kidder in his pseudo-DonnerVerse? Makes zero sence. As pointed out by another talkbacker on a previous Supes-related news item, I wouldn't be surpsrised if Singer wanted Parker Posey for Lois but studio heads wanted someone more "bankable" for the younger demograpic like Bosworth so he gave Posey the role of Luther's assistan as sort of consolation prize. I personally still feel that Pamela Adlon from 'Californication' would have made the ideal replacement for Margot Kidder, but certainly Parker POsey would have been far more fitting than Kate freakin' Bosworth...

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:44 a.m. CST

    deadbeatdad...please explain to me how I was

    by southafricanguy

    insulting anyone and everyone that does not like SR. First, I only said the ADD crowd would nt like it. Im not sure how that qualifies as "everyone". Secondly, I agreed with a guy about the deadbeat thing as being juvenile, what the hell does that have to do with insulting people that dont like SR? Many people have expressed valid points as to why they dont like SR, and can make many good points related to story, direction acting etc..as to why they feel the way they do. So how am I insulting "everyone" by agreeing with some dude that I find the contant, as in repeated and overused, deadbeat dad thing juvenile? ...

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:46 a.m. CST

    And if you actually bothered to read my ear

    by southafricanguy

    lier posts deadbeat, you may notice that I agreed with points Kobe made about SR, and I said that while I like SR, I could see why it failed, and how and why Singer made the wrong choices....so again, how the hell was I "insulting everyone"?

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:47 a.m. CST

    thomasjarvis....agreed dude, Posey would ha

    by southafricanguy

    ve been much better. I have never liked any of the film Lois Lanes so far....I think Posey may have been quite good at it.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:53 a.m. CST

    southafricangoyl

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    Trying to back-track is VERY juvenile. Everyone who read your post knew what you meant when you said "it wasn't made for the ADD crowd". You got called out, and even APOLOGIZED for saying it. So shut the fuck up with THAT bullshit.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:56 a.m. CST

    deadbeat....how about you shut the fuck up?

    by southafricanguy

    yet again, unless you consider yourself to have ADD, how the fuck am I insulting you? You are insulting yourself deadbeatdickhead...

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:57 a.m. CST

    southafricangoyl

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    And as far as the deadbeat dad thing goes.... He WAS one. Just because you and the few Singerman fans out there can make things up to "justify" it to yourselves DOESN'T make it any less true. The guy fathered a kid, allows another man to think the bastard is HIS, and took ZERO financial responsibility for it. Oh, but he DID creep into the kids bedroom with a strange pedarast look in his eyes and spoke to him in his sleep. Deadbeat dad? Never! Right?

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Deadbeatdickhead....and Im not backtracking

    by southafricanguy

    anything, If I was would I have apologized for making the comment? Fuck me, is it dumb cunt day today?

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 1 a.m. CST

    Fine if you think hes a deadbeat dad pal, Ag

    by southafricanguy

    ain try to actually READ what I wrote. I said, the repeated use of it (it being damn old at this point) in place of offering any real cricism of the film itself.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 1:01 a.m. CST

    And im no Singer fanboy either dickhead, dont

    by southafricanguy

    presume to know me, I dont own any Singer films, nor have I even seen any of his films since SR. Dont just pull shit out of your ass...

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 1:03 a.m. CST

    southafricangoyl

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    HA! Really kid? You don't see how insinuating EVERYONE who disliked Singerman has ADD bothered more than one person? Seriously, get your cunt ass of the computer and into bed. School tomorrow, junior.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 1:03 a.m. CST

    southafricanguy...switch out Posey & Bosworth

    by thomasjarvis

    I think if Posey was cast as Lois, Bosworth would've sufficed as Luthor's assistant. So basically just have them trade places! Also, I don't know if you've ever watched 'Californication' or 'Lucky Louie', but if the goal was indeed to make a true hommage to the Donner film(s), then Pamela Aldon would've been the perfect actress to cast as a true replacement for Margot Kidder. It's like, if you took Kidder circa 1978 (who certainly was admittedly more than a little on the homely side) and made her petite, twenty-seven times more attractive and actually...gasp...sexy, you'd have Pamela Adlon!

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 1:07 a.m. CST

    in place of offering any real cricism of the film itself.

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    First off, what the FUCK is a "cricism"?? Secondly, it IS a legitimate CRITICISM of the film. Just because you don't like hearing it, doesn't mean SHIT fuckwad.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 1:08 a.m. CST

    Fuck me, is it dumb cunt day today?

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    I don't know, to be honest. IS your mommy posting?

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 1:16 a.m. CST

    also, Kevin Spacey as Lex could've worked if...

    by thomasjarvis

    The character had been written to take adavantage of Spacey's ability to portray a lethal combination of his ruthless business man Buddy Ackerman from 'Swimming With Sharks' with the psychotic but highly intelligent villan from 'Se7en'...

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 1:34 a.m. CST

    meant to type "villain", obviously...

    by thomasjarvis

    Damn it!

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 1:41 a.m. CST

    This is bullshit Routh will never play Superman again.. That pub

    by ThaJackaL

    You heard me right bitches TOM WELLING needs to be cast in this movie, and if he's not then I refuse to watch the fucking thing, and will bash it endlessly... Why? Because if BJ Routh is re-cast the movie will suck on epic proportions. Besides look at who the fans want! http://www.sodahead.com/entertainment/who-should-play-superman/question-1288813/ and look at this EW poll! http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs760.snc4/66091_1303288962037_1824892923_612118_3665834_n.jpg Again the people want TOM WELLING in the movie!

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 2:01 a.m. CST

    Raymonf

    by Soundblaster

    That's a fascinating story about Prowse; a hidden piece of movie history. While the end product may have proven the story incorrect, Lucas had, at one point, considered having Han Solo sacrifice himself in order to destroy the second Death Star at the end of JEDI. So, I don't think the man was lying. <p>Now, I'm curious to know if you have any other stories to you may like to share.</p>

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 2:21 a.m. CST

    another vote for Routh

    by bubcus

    I liked him as Superman and felt he got shafted by a mediocre film.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 3:02 a.m. CST

    ThaJackaL...

    by UltimaRex

    "The people" being Smallville fanboys who rape every Superman casting poll while norms don't care. The polls don't mean jack.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 3:04 a.m. CST

    deadbeat.....fucking amazing..seriously. you

    by southafricanguy

    accuse me of insulting everyone when its you talking smack about anyone here that has said anything positive about Routh/SR? Wow...hypocrite much? And no I never insinuated a damn thing you fucktard. Unless you can show me actually saying that anyone that does nt like SR has ADD, then shut the fuck up, and go fuck yourself. I only said the ADD crowd would nt like it, and since I did NOT quatify who the ADD crowd is, then if you feel insulted, you must consider yourself to be a member of said crowd. Maybe reading and comprehension are not your strong points....

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 3:06 a.m. CST

    Dont have a giant hissy fit dickhead just b

    by southafricanguy

    ecause you are taking things out of what I said. Is English your first language cuntstain? If so...Yikes!

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 3:08 a.m. CST

    And you are clearly the one here that takes

    by southafricanguy

    Superman, and who plays him wwwaaayyy too seriously. Get over it you man child afflicted cunt, some people liked SR, its totally cool if you did nt, but no one is wrong/right for liking it anymore than you are wrong/right for disliking it.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Anyone else want to put words in my mouth

    by southafricanguy

    accuse me of saying things I never did, or attribute meaning that is nt there to what I said? Because that seems to be the theme of the day...

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 3:11 a.m. CST

    My God, is everyone just PMSing today?

    by southafricanguy

    and are all just hyper-sensitive?

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 3:34 a.m. CST

    Only 2 good parts in SR..

    by darthwaz1

    The plane rescue and the bullet in the eye..everything else was nonsense. As a said up top about Routh, re-casting him makes no fucking sense it would be the same as if they had brought back Clooney or Kilmer for Batman Begins.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 4 a.m. CST

    darthwaz1

    by catlettuce4

    Funny, I thought the bulletproof eye (didn't even blink!) was one of the dumbest things in the whole film. I agree with the rest of your statement though.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 4:18 a.m. CST

    Superman didn't blink...

    by UltimaRex

    Because he had to deal with bugs beforehand. Just sayin'.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 4:29 a.m. CST

    No Routh Baggage!!

    by Kenny8

    He's had his shot. Let Welling step up, maybe.....but Routh's done in Hollywood already.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 5:06 a.m. CST

    I liked Routh too, but...

    by Dromosus

    ...what I ultimately enjoyed about his portrayal was that it was a very good Christopher Reeve impersonation. It appealed to nostalgia for the best of the previous Superman movie franchise, especially seeing as it came a few years after Reeve's untimely death. I'd love to see something new this time, something that cut away completely from the old portrayals.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 5:10 a.m. CST

    Man, DeadBeat_Dads...

    by The Krypton Kid

    is a moron of epic proportions.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 5:22 a.m. CST

    The Bulletproof Eyeball

    by DVaderRIP

    The problem I have with that scene is that, when he shot him in the eyeball, it just fell to the floor, like all the momentum of the bullet was absorbed by Supermans eyeball. WTF? It should have ricocheted away or something. I'm sure it sounded cool on paper, but it came across as nonsense. In the donner-verse, not only can Superman go back in time, but he can also pull giant plastic sheets out of his chest, erase women's memory with a kiss, and now absorb the momentum of a bullet with his eyeball.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Another implausible power

    by DVaderRIP

    Oh yeah, and he can hear the world talking. IN SPACE. What a pratt.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Upper atmosphere.

    by UltimaRex

    Not space.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Brandon Routh is not gay

    by AsimovLives

    He's married to Courtney Ford, the actress that played the hot reporter in the Dexter season 4. Envy him.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 6:48 a.m. CST

    IF CASTING OLDER...JON HAMM AND SANDRA BULLOCK

    by Darth Busey

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 7:02 a.m. CST

    68 Days

    by Countdown_to_Vader

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Darth Busey...

    by UltimaRex

    "I certainly haven't been informed of that. They might want to run that by me. I don't know, I think unless Superman's power was the power of being really old... I maybe aged out of that competition." <p>-Jon Hamm.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Jon Hamm would be great if he could put on 50 Lbs of muscle.

    by mojoman69

    He looks like the Alex ross version of SUpes.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Jon Hamm

    by DVaderRIP

    Jon Hamm is too old for the role, bottom line, and he is smart enough to know it. What people don't think about on this site is that it's not just about what he looks like now - it's also about whether or not he'll still look good in 10 years, after a three picture cycle. At that point, the guy will be nearly 50. Forget it. Same goes for people who talk about Monica Belluci as Wonder Woman. Yes, she is hot as hell for her age, but she is around 20 years too old to play Diana. Bottom line, you need someone in their mid 20s. Arguably, now even Routh is too old.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Tom Bosley just died. Obit now please.

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 8:03 a.m. CST

    SAG does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    SAG, nice to see you smacking down Hey_Kobe_Ass_Tastes. The man truly is mongoloid.<p> Another talkbacker cut a bit close to the bone on poor little Kobe when he realised the fool had 'daddy issues' and that's prob why the dead-beat dad thing has got him so riled up. That and the fact that he's a massive TRANSFORMERS fan (wouldn't suprise me if that's where TrannyApologist went too, or became, if you know what I mean).<p> Hey_Kobe has been in meltdown ever since, picking fights with big hitters that he could never hope to win.<p> Leave the mongoloid to drown in a piss pool of self-loathing. The deadbeat son of a deadbeat dad.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 8:06 a.m. CST

    Talking about Wonder Woman...

    by DVaderRIP

    There is no credible candidate right now, and IMHO the casting is the reason why the film might never get made. Diana needs to look the part, and also to be built like a 6' russian polevaulter with DDs. With that costume, there's no padding.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Has anyone seen Hamm as Luthor...

    by Joaquin_Ondamoon

    ...on 'Funny or Die'.com, where he played Lex appealing to Obama for stimulus funds for Lexcorp? Funny shit, and it makes you think: maybe everyone's lobbying for him for the wrong role. Doubt he'd shave his head tho.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Cobra-kai....hey, whats up brother? Im doing

    by southafricanguy

    good otherwise. Yeah, Kobe is both an asshole and as dumb as shit. God, I hope he is not an adult because otherwise thats just creepy/sad. My favourite is him calling me a hypocrite and hes busy just making shit up about me.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST

    But ultimatly the proof is in the fact that

    by southafricanguy

    neither him or that moron deadbeat have yet to supply me or anyone for that matter, with evidence of me doing the things they accuse me of doing....All ive heard so far are crickets chirping. As I said if they want to accuse me of bullshit, then put up or shut the fuck up....

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 8:39 a.m. CST

    COBRA....thanks for the info as to why the

    by southafricanguy

    dead beat dad thing bothers Kobe so much. Sure explains a lot. Poor little Kobe and his daddy issues....

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 8:40 a.m. CST

    BTW Kobe...im NOT your daddy, so stop

    by southafricanguy

    taking your shit with him out on me.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 9:14 a.m. CST

    "Another implausible power"

    by Joely_Boy

    Those three words coupled with the topic of Superman would have to be the dumbest thing ever said on a talkback.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 10:10 a.m. CST

    The plot of SR wasn't completely wretched...

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    for a straight to video animated film......</p><p>Actually....even then it was pretty retarded. I mean Bruce Timm has done some amazing stuff with home video. The only thing I can think of that comes close to the rampant retardation of Superman Returns in a STV Superman film was when Supermantakes Doomsday to outer space....and instead of chucking him into the sun...decides to slam him into the center of Metropolis probably killing thousands of people! That scene would have been right at home in Superman Returns.</p><p>But let me address the one scene most people like in SR, the plane rescue. You may not realize it...but that scene is retarded too.</p><p>We've seen Superman rescue plunging planes before in both the original film and a deleted scene from Superman II in which he rescues a Concorde. Supes knows how to do this. You lift up from the bottom and fly it in. Seems pretty simple right?</p><p>For some un-fucking-believable reason, this time Superman decides to pull up on the tippy-tip of an obviously stressing plane wing....until it (surprise of surprises) BREAKS OFF! How did Superman become such a fucking MORON?

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Yes, hearing people talking from space...

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Ha ha, that was a good one. Was there anything in this movie that DIDN'T suck donkey balls?

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 10:14 a.m. CST

    The opening credits, I liked those

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Unfortunately it was all downhill from there.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 10:47 a.m. CST

    OK Asi, I'll give you that.

    by Stalkeye

    It's good to know that you would consider seeing the upcoming movie regardless of your disdain for Snyder as you more than made it known on the boards.And hey, what's not to love about said project especially since it has Nolan's input as well as having Routh return? Now if it was to be directed by Bay or Abrams (Thanks for spreading the word about his planned "concept" of superman.)I would boycott the damn thing.Zac may be a hack in your eyes, but compared to Bay,Rob Zombie,Roth,McGee,Emmerich,PWSA and Ratner, the fucker delivers IMO.I'm very optimistic about the next supes film as it seems like a potentual hit.<p>BTW watch some of the Animated series which is one of the best interpetations of Superman.and for a damn cartoon, it says a lot.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 10:51 a.m. CST

    BTW I too hated Flashdance....

    by Stalkeye

    ...and as for Fatal attraction, great concept but the ending was very "PC". Michael Douglas' character came off as the good guy during the final 10 minutes.I'm surprised they show Glen's (Close) Hay-nanny during the sex scene.Can't totally hate on Lyne for filming that part.80)

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Downplay Superman's powers

    by AsimovLives

    I'm dead tired of his invulnerabilities and escalading powers. The way the writers of the movies and TV shows have com up to try to inject danger to Superman has became absurd. How many more types of kryptonite can they come up with? Absurd. Put a speed limit to Superman powers already! Otherwise, i can't give a fig about him. Without vulnerability there's no drama, there's no emotional connection. I might as well be watching a movie about a statue.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 10:53 a.m. CST

    unparanoid_android

    by Stalkeye

    You know it's bad when I could see fucking Hancock 3x and not watch SR after the first viewing.<p>Nuff Said.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Keep on nitpicking, haters

    by Joely_Boy

    It just reflects your outlook on life.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Stalkeye

    by AsimovLives

    You and southafricanguy have talked very highly of SUPERMAN: TAO, so i'm in the process of getting at least the first 3 episodes just to tpi my toe. If i like it, i'll get more of it. Thanks for the word.<br><br>Well, for me, all this situation about the new Superman movie is a half-empty glass, if you get my meaning. You know i'm a huge Nolan groupie, but the decision to hire Snyder as director disapoints me to no end. No, i can't see much of a good thing from it. Besides, Nolan cannot go about being in charge of both Superman and Batman 3. He's only human. And Batman 3 most certainly will be a big movie much like THE DARK KNIGHT was, if not bigger. How can he handle both? No, i'm certain that from now on, it's Snyder who's the man of the projec,t and this bodes very ill for the movie. Yes, i'll watch it because there's still that slimer of hope that nolan's interference, however small, might yeld more good then bad and outweights the usual Snyder's imbecilities and crapiness. But i'm not betting on it.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 11:05 a.m. CST

    That HAND-IN-COCK bullshit movie...

    by AsimovLives

    ... fuck that shit, really. Fuck it. I have nothing but despise for that waste of time.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Stalkeye

    by AsimovLives

    FATAL ATTRACTION was based on a play. they severely changed the ending, to such an amoutn they evne called it the "Friday 13th ending". In the play, as revenge she comits suicide and pins it on Douglas' character, and the guy is arrested and has his life ruined. Aparently, that stuff was even filmed, but thanks to the retard morons of the test audience, the studios got cold feet, turned yellow and changed the ending.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Superman Returns actually PISSED ME OFF!

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    I haven't felt like that since Shyamalan's The Village!</p><p>There were very few enjoyable things about Superman Returns. I liked the guy playing Jimmy, he was funny. I thought Routh's Christopher Reeve Clark portrayal was entertaining if really old-fashioned. Just about everything else was at least annoying, if not completely putrid. Lois Lane is a bitch who apears to act like she's in the 30's serial. Brandon is skinny and in a gay pride parade suit. Langella...I don't know what the fuck he was doing. I think he thought he was in a horror film. Cyclops was solid as he always is but his character isn't fleshed out very much and he always feels like he's just there to keep Supes and Lois from slapping uglies. The kid is pretty annoying. Lex needs to shut the fuck up and I wanted to slap the sneer off his bitch's face.</p><p>Superman decides to take a tour around the galaxy for no real reason then returns to find everything completely fucked. He gets all weepy and emo while stalking his ex and being clueless to the fact that she has a son the exact same age he would be if he were his. But that never even dawns on him because Singer's Superman is so fucking stupid that when he overhears Lois telling her husband that she never really loved Superman, he can't see what ANYBODY can, that she's just saying that to calm her husband's fears. So he flies off crying like a fuckin' bitch.</p><p>Meanwhile Lex has decided to destroy half the world population in the hopes that the other half will buy the worst property ever fucking seen. When asked why the world wouldn't just blow him the fuck up, he says he's safe....because he weilds a crystal that....makes icebergs. And then we find out that Lex (who mysteriously dresses like Dick Tracey), the greatest criminal mind of our time....forgot to gas up the fucking helicopter and gets stuck on an island. You know...one of those Atlantic islands that are closer than the just-offshore iceberg. All this while Superman lifts a continent into space surrounded by Kryptonite and having a Kryptonite shard shoved into his fucking ribs. Yeah that jibes with what we saw in Donner's Superman!</p><p>FUCKING CHRIST what a piece of SHIT!

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Fett, haha nice post!<p> Only prob is you make SUPERMAN RETURNS sound more exciting than it actually is!

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Asimov

    by Stalkeye

    I trust Nolan's input regardless of how more or less he is involved in said project, but I also believe that Zac will deliver the goods especially when it comes to utilizing superman's powers and fight scenes to gel/blend with a more solid storyline.<p>My problem with Hancock is that the movie came off a bit schzophrenic.Meaning, it didnt know if it wanted to be a comedy or drama.Good concept but wasted effort especially during the last 15 minutes with the dumb romantic subplot about lost loves.I saw something great during the first 20 minutes of the film.The idea of a fucking super powered jerk trying to fix his public image is a refreshing concept.And for the record, it should have been more comedic but not over the top like some Chris Rock movie.<p>I loath SR mostly b/c it went against the character's mythos and rehashed elements from the 1st film. A total artistic cop out IMO.Singer, who gained props for the 2nd XMen film, just screwed up the most iconic Superhero on celluloid and not even after valkyrie (a good film that i own a blu-ray copy of.)I have heard much of him ever since.<P>Not only do I recommend STAS, but checkout Justice League Unlimited as well.It gave me the impression of why Superman is SUPERMAN.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Well said FETT.

    by Stalkeye

    Now that's a review worthy of being an article on AICN.<p>Now that's an in depth and brutally honest review.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:22 p.m. CST

    ROUTH deserved to come back.

    by riskebiz

    To replace him with someone who he undoubtably beat out the first time there was a casting call is an insult. Routh ruled as Superman (and in Scott Pilgrim) and I would really look forward to a new Superman movie starring him. Replacing him would be replacing for replacing's sake and you wouldn't find a better candidate than Routh. IN FACT...I'd also cameo him in Batman 3 and Green Lantern as reporter Clark Kent (which they ought to have done in the Dark Knight).

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Use the Dini/Timm Superman as a template.

    by hank henshaw

    While heavily influenced by the John Byrne version of Superman (which is my favorite) it still had enough aspects of the Silver Age and Golden Age versions of Superman. The Superman from the animated series didn't have limitless powers, in fact, he struggled mightly against most of his villains, and needed a suit to breath in deep space for a long period of time. The Lois Lane in that cartoon, that Lex Luthor, all perfect.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Return of Fett

    by HapaPapa72

    True to all that, but I did like the airplane sequence. Damn we miss Chris Reeve.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Routh IS Superman!!!!

    by genrefanboy

    WB execs if your reading this please give Brandon another chance as he is perfect as Clark Kent & as long as an actor can pull that part off the Superman hero stuff is much easier! No Routh= No interest from me!!!!

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Just make All Star Superman

    by Nabster

    into a movie. And make Superman either gay or black. It'd mark a bold new era in superhero films.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Turd, just cause a movie's dated doesn't mean it's a bad film

    by Coughlins Laws

    I really don't understand your point. The first Superman was really good and the second one was a worthy follow up. But the problem is, it's too hard to make a Superman story that doesn't rehash itself. Since Superman is pretty much all powerful you have to do something to take his powers away. They've done it in every movie. It's just old. But "tacky" and "dated"? That's a stupid criticism...

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Tom Bosley as Superman

    by donkingkong

    Wait he just died? Wtf! RIP mister Cunningham.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Superman III was pretty damn bad, except for..

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    Good Superman vs. Evil Superman. That was some epic shit! And it did have Brainiac at the end, even though it was a pretty fucked up mixing of tone by that point. It went from goofy comedy to almost horror when Brainiac cyborgizes that chick's body. But hey, it was better than Superman IV, HOLY FUCK was that bad! Interestingly it was supposed to be about Bizarro, but that plot point got completely cut out of the film because it came out so horrifically bad. It looked Superman beating up a retard! You've got to check out the deleted scenes on that flick. They're goddamn hilarious! Wait 'til you see Superman repeatedly chucking Lois Lane into the atmosphere and laughing his ass off!

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Turd, although I ADORE the first 2 films...

    by RETURN_of_FETT

    I want to see a Superman movie exactly as you describe. Only Bruce Timm has got the tone and scope of Superman right and I would love to see it on the big screen.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Superman is a DICK as superdickery.com has proved.

    by KilliK

    i would love to see a movie version of that superman.have him flying around the world and being a prick to everybody.like Russel Crowe fighting around the world.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 4:12 p.m. CST

    KilliK

    by AsimovLives

    I have read the superdickery.com stuff and it's falling-from-the-chair-and-rolling-in-the-floor hillarious

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Welling

    by dicbeaks

    He's good. I have enjoyed this season's Smallville quite a bit. Welling brings a nice understanding of the character and Erica D. as Lois hits all the right notes. He should get a shot in the tights.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 4:14 p.m. CST

    RETURN_of_FETT

    by AsimovLives

    "Superman Returns actually PISSED ME OFF!"<br><br>Now you know how i feel about Jar Jar Abrams's SHIT TREK, or any Michael Bay movie for that matter.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST

    unparanoid_android

    by AsimovLives

    What Snyder's talents? He has any? Why i haven't seen any of those mythological talents he's supposed to have, then? If Snyder's talents like the proverbial invisible cat that only the people who believe in them can see?

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Stalkeye

    by AsimovLives

    Bryan Singer made THE USUAL SUSPECTS. and with the help of X-MEN 2, he gets a pass for life with me. And VALKYRIE is terribly underated. I say that and i can't stand Tom Cruise.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Parker Posey

    by Autodidact

    These days, when I think of the word "pretty", it's her and Elizabeth Banks who come to mind.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 5:15 p.m. CST

    You don't have to take Superman's powers away

    by Hipshot

    You can create an opposing force equal to his challenge. Christ, in sixty years of Superman comics, books, television, and so forth, you don't think there are a dozen good stories where they figured this out? They make the mistake of not looking at this wealth of material, and keep rehashing the same two or three ideas. Pitiful.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 5:19 p.m. CST

    McGooCain

    by AsimovLives

    A restored METROPOLIS is a must for me. Cool news indeed. The only problem is that now i'll have to doubledip on the movie, because i have bought the previous Kino DVD. By the way, the first time i saw the complete movie, it was in a theater where there was a life piano performance plying the movie's real soundtrack. How cool is that? Very, very cool.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Hipshot

    by AsimovLives

    Superman is too powerful. The way the writers have come up to create tension while still mantaining Supe's escalading powers is just ludricous and counter-productive. Supes is a fucking god, and who can relate to a god, anyway? Take up a notch or two, i say. Stop making superman invulnerable, stop making Superman being able to lift islands and continents, stop superman being invulnerable to all arms and weapons on Earth, stop superman for being able to breed in space, stop superman to be able to fly without getting tired, just stop with the god powers nonsense bullshit.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Supes didnt look to me very powerful when he tried to stop

    by KilliK

    the falling airplane.on the other hand,when he elevated the cryptonite-island,his powers suddenly escalated to god-like levels.talk about consistency.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Autodidact

    by AsimovLives

    Elizabeth Banks most certainly, specially as blonde.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST

    McGooCain

    by AsimovLives

    You should had been there. Maybe for the american theatrical showings, some might have a full orquestral live play.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 5:49 p.m. CST

    KilliK

    by AsimovLives

    That's what i'm talking about. Superman stopping the airplane's fall, and having a bit of a trouble with, that's how Superman's powers should be seen and portait, and should evne be the height and the full extent of his power. The continent lifting, is WHAT SHOULDN'T BE portaited in Superman, be it movie or comic or TV show. There has to be a limit to what he can do, or else there's nothing to relate to him. Superman having limited powers can fuel more drama. Really, consider the second movie, and which part of that movie was when people actually felt sorry and concerned for Superman? When he lost his powers and got a beating from the big redneck in that artic coffee shop. That's what i'm talking about.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 6:32 p.m. CST

    ARMIE & ZOOEY ARE CLARK & LOIS!!!!!!!

    by wackybantha

    MAKE IT SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST

    John for Sgt. Rock

    by Phategod2

    that is all.

  • Oct. 20, 2010, 8:22 p.m. CST

    Fett...

    by Kontarsky

    Superman Returns review was spot-on. I remember seeing it digitally. What a waste. Total forgettable garbage.

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 12:36 a.m. CST

    Hey Asi, whats up dude? Hows it going?

    by southafricanguy

    Do absolutely check out Superman:TAS. Besides being really fun, it does what you will like by putting a cap on Superman's powers. For example he cant go into space for any length of time without a space suit. And secondly, much like Batman:TAS, its pretty much the perfect portrayal of the character imho...

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 12:38 a.m. CST

    BTW Asi, what is your critical analysis if

    by southafricanguy

    Superman Returns? Where do you stand on it? And for what its worth, I agree with you that for USUAL Suspects, and X-men 2 Singer gets to stay out of director jail with me. And Valkerye is indeed very underrated....

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Turd....how are you dude? Long time no see.

    by southafricanguy

    I am pretty much in agreement with you about the Donner films, and that there rreally has been no definitive Superman film yet ala the one two punch that is BB and TDK. I would like to see them use Doomsday as one of the villains purely becasue then they have a villain that can not only hurt Supes, but can kill him, all without needing to involve Kryptonite yet again....

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 12:41 a.m. CST

    And will add that sense of danger, and peril

    by southafricanguy

    that Asi so craves lol...

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Fett....dude, you are going to laugh at me, but

    by southafricanguy

    as bad as Superman 4 is (and it is) I still prefer it to 3. Now if you can stop yourself laughing long enough, hear me out. It at least has Superman fighting a super powered foe, and its trying to be a Superman film (a really bad one, but anyway...) while 3 is just a bad richard pryor comedy imho....

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 12:55 a.m. CST

    Turd...watch Superman:Doomsday the anima

    by southafricanguy

    ted DVD film to see how damn sweet a full out fight between Supes and Doomsday would be...

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Personally I dont think its possible to know

    by southafricanguy

    just yet what kind of film we re going to get based on how little info we have. Snyder is directing, but if the script by Goyer is truly good, and Nolan is involved in the script, and in the creative decisons, then it could be a pretty good film imho....

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Shut The Fuck Up

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    southafricangoyl. You got your ass kicked last time, and no one likes you.

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 1:34 a.m. CST

    Singerman Is A Hero To DeadBeat Dads EVERYWHERE!

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    "And who, disguised as a mildly irritated fatherer of illegitimate children, fights a never-ending battle against truth, justice and a DNA testing order!!"

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 3:08 a.m. CST

    How about you put up or shut the fuck up

    by southafricanguy

    deadbeatcunt? Please show mw where I got my ass kicked. By you? Dont make me laugh you dumb fucktard. Im still waiting for you to present your evidence of me saying anyhting you accused me of....

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 3:10 a.m. CST

    And dont project onto me you obnoxious cunt

    by southafricanguy

    its you no-one likes. I dont anyone else here spewing hate and insulting other people like you. But then English comprehension isnt your strong suit

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 3:12 a.m. CST

    Dont take it out on me just because you have

    by southafricanguy

    serious daddy issues. Whats wrong deadbeat?...Do you have a deadbeat daddy? Did your mommy fuck lots of men, and now you dont know who your daddy is? So youre now going to take out your frustrationsd here in the TBs?

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Asimov RE:Singer

    by Stalkeye

    I (also) give Singer props for Ususal Suspects (great ensemble cast)Apt Pupil, not so much. Part of me is pissed that he bailed out on the 3rd XMen,(and we ended up with Ratner?!?) only to direct an underperforming adaptation of Superman.Seeing his track record from Suspects to X-2, I had great expectations but unfotunately, the end product failed miserably.Oh, and I respect your right to trash Jar Trek or Zac Snyder since me bashing Stalkerman or anything else I would take umbrage with is my right as well.<p>Fair game.

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 5:12 a.m. CST

    Stalkeye...whats up dude? I am not very

    by southafricanguy

    familiar with the whole story behind Singer and X-men 3. Did he leave? I always thought that Fox just fucked him over and kinda fired him. Or did he in fact screw then over?

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 6:09 a.m. CST

    F*ck Megan Fox...

    by Dead_Geek

    ... and not in a good way. untalented white trash.

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 8:24 a.m. CST

    SAG

    by Stalkeye

    How the hell ya been? From what I have read, Superman was Singer's "dream project" so when offered, he jumped at the opportunity and took (for the most part) James Marsden with him.He orginally pitched the storyline/remake to Richard Donner and the feedback was positive. As for FOX, I wouldn't be surprised if they fucked him over be it a payscale or royalties, thus making it more easier for him to bail out of the xmen sequel.<p>BTW I noticed that you too are a fan of Korean cinema, any recent recommendations? (I only watched the first 15 minutes of Mother via Netflix, but temporarly lost interest.)

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Stalkeye...I am indeed a fan, and that is

    by southafricanguy

    partly because I live in Korea, thus I see them wether I want to or not. Im doing good dude, thanks for the info re Singer and Fox. I would highly recommend THirst (Bat in Korean) a seriously fucked up Vampire film that has a jet black sense of humour, and loads of sex and gore. There is shadow crime, which is an excellent murder mystery. Basically Its a Korean Sherlock Holmes, with the main characters being a private detective, and his friend a doctor. Also, there is a good time travel fantasy film called Woochi which is nothing deep, but is quite fun and entertaining...

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 1:37 p.m. CST

    DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    by AsimovLives

    Quite the contray, southafricanguy is one of the most well liked people in here. You, however... hey, who the hell are you anyway? Haven't seen you here before.

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 1:56 p.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by AsimovLives

    What's that south korean movie which many call it a remake of MAN ON FIRE? It sounds kickass and badass. A south korean Man On Fire movie has all potentials to be absolute mocie badass joy. I mean, look at what the koreans did with the basi trope of "this time it's vengence time" and made A BITTERSWEET LIFE out of it.<br><br>I liked SUPERMAN RETURNS. It's not a movie i'm in any hurry to rewatch, but it's hardly the monstruosity that many geeks claim to be. And as you, i think Routh was great as Superman, he looks the part and he can really act, as also seen in CHUCK. Routh looks like Superman, and the blue eye contacts didn't phased me. I mean, he's supposed to be a bloody alien, anyway.

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Wow...

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    So the guy who southafricangoyl has been stroking off here in the TalkBack comes to his "defense"?? Who saw THAT coming???

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 10:22 p.m. CST

    BJ Routh Can "really act"...

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    Yep, and look at how Hollywood has responded! The guy has starred in a BUNCH of movies since Singerma.... Ok, actually the guy has had his own show for 10 ye.... Shit. Alright, at least the guy was a part of the 2010 SMASH HIT Scott Pilgri.... Huh. Need I say more?

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Singerman!

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    "The Big Blue Boy's Paternity Test Dodger!"

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Singerman Is A Hero To DeadBeat Dads EVERYWHERE!

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    "And who, disguised as a mildly irritated fatherer of illegitimate children, fights a never-ending battle against truth, justice and a DNA testing order!!"

  • Oct. 21, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Singerman!

    by DeadBeat_Dads_Are_Super_Man

    "Up, Up, and Away From Responsibility!!"

  • Oct. 22, 2010, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Armie Hammer is the best choice for MOS.

    by UltimaRex

    The last word.