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30 ROCK Nearly Beats SHIT!! Thursday Ratings!!
I am – Hercules!! The big Thursday-night ratings news is “30 Rock,” whose surprise-guest-star-packed live episode from the SNL stages not only gave the show by far its best number in its new 8:30 p.m. timeslot, but also beat most of its numbers from last season, when it nested in the much more desirable post-“Office” timeslot. Last season’s “30 Rock” ratings in adults 18-49 (starting with May’s 2.7 season finale and working backwards to 2009’s 3.0 season premiere): (2.7) (2.5) (2.6) (2.7) (2.5) (2.9) (3.0) (2.9) (2.8) (2.9) (2.7) (2.3) (3.2) (3.0) (2.8) (3.0) (3.0) (3.1) (3.3) (3.0) Tina Fey's brainchild even came close to overtaking “Shit My Dad Says” (which benefits from a much bigger lead-in in “Big Bang Theory”) and winning its timeslot. “30 Rock” appears also to have given nice (if less dramatic) boosts to surrounding shows “Community” and “The Office.”
Thursdays, July 29 – Oct. 14, 2010 Adults 18-49 finals (repeats in gray; previous finals in parentheses): 4.6 (4.6) (4.6) (5.4) (1.8) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) Grey’s Anatomy 4.3 (4.1) (4.4) (4.9) (2.4) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) Big Bang Theory 3.8 (3.5) (3.7) (4.4) (1.2) (----) (1.0) (1.1) (1.1) (1.4) (1.2) (1.3) The Office 3.3 (3.0) (3.0) (3.4) (1.7) (1.2) (----) (1.5) (1.3) (1.7) (1.3) (1.4) Mentalist 3.2 (2.9) (3.3) (4.0) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) Shit My Dad Says 3.1 (2.1) (2.6) (2.6) (----) (----) (0.8) (0.8) (0.9) (1.1) (1.0) (1.0) 30 Rock 3.1 (2.7) (3.1) (3.4) (----) (1.3) (----) (1.4) (1.2) (1.6) (1.2) (1.2) CSI 3.0 (2.9) (2.8) (3.2) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) Private Practice 2.8 (2.7) (3.4) (3.1) (2.0) (3.3) (3.3) (3.0) (2.8) (2.7) (2.5) (2.6) Jersey Shore 2.6 (2.7) (2.5) (2.7) (----) (1.0) (----) (1.2) (----) (----) (----) (----) Bones 2.6 (2.5) (2.8) (3.6) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) Outsourced 2.2 (1.8) (1.9) (2.2) (----) (----) (0.9) (0.9) (0.8) (1.1) (1.1) (1.0) Community 2.0 (2.0) (1.9) (2.1) (0.7) (0.8) (----) (0.9) (----) (----) (----) (----) Fringe 1.3 (1.3) (1.3) (1.4) (1.5) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) The Apprentice 1.3 (1.1) (1.2) (1.2) (1.4) (1.5) (1.7) (1.3) (1.4) (1.2) (1.0) (1.1) Project Runway 1.1 (1.2) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) Grey’s Anatomy (8pm) 0.9 (0.7) (0.9) (1.0) (1.4) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) It’s Always Sunny 0.9 (1.6) (1.5) (1.6) (1.4) (1.6) (----) (0.6) (0.5) (0.6) (0.4) (0.5) Vampire Diaries 0.8 (0.9) (1.3) (1.2) (1.0) (1.0) (1.1) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) College Football 0.8 (0.7) (0.7) (0.6) (0.7) (0.4) (0.6) (----) (0.7) (0.7) (0.8) (0.7) The First 48 0.8 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) Real Housewives BH 0.7 (0.7) (0.6) (0.6) (0.6) (0.6) (----) (0.7) (0.6) (0.7) (0.8) (----) Real Housewives DC 0.7 (0.6) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (0.7) (----) (----) (----) (----) After The First 48 0.7 (0.6) (0.5) (0.4) (0.4) (----) (0.4) (0.5) (0.4) (0.5) (0.7) (0.5) TNA Wrestling 0.6 (1.1) (1.1) (1.1) (1.2) (1.4) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) Nikita 0.6 (0.5) (0.6) (0.6) (1.1) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) The League 0.5 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) Storm Chasers 0.4 (0.4) (0.4) (0.4) (0.5) (0.5) (0.7) (0.5) (0.7) (----) (0.4) (0.5) Austin & Santino 0.4 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) Bonenapper Dragon 0.3 (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) Johnny Test NBC (Prior weeks in parentheses; repeats in gray) 6.7 (8.0) (7.3) (9.2) (9.6) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Sunday Football 3.7 (3.5) (3.7) (4.4) (1.2) (----) (1.0) (1.1) (1.1) (1.4) (1.2) The Office 3.0 (2.1) (2.6) (2.6) (----) (----) (0.8) (0.8) (0.9) (1.1) (1.0) 30 Rock 2.6 (2.5) (2.7) (2.9) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Biggest Loser 2.5 (2.5) (2.8) (3.6) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) Outsourced 2.3 (2.6) (2.8) (3.2) (----) (1.8) (1.4) (1.7) (1.4) (1.8) (----) Law & Order SVU 2.2 (1.8) (1.9) (2.2) (----) (----) (0.9) (0.9) (0.8) (1.1) (1.1) Community 2.2 (2.4) (2.9) (3.6) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) The Event 2.0 (2.1) (2.0) (2.5) (2.7) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Parenthood 1.9 (1.9) (2.0) (2.0) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Chuck 1.9 (2.4) (3.2) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) Law & Order LA 1.6 (1.3) (1.6) (1.4) (1.2) (1.2) (1.0) (1.1) (1.0) (1.0) (1.1) Dateline 1.5 (1.7) (2.1) (2.3) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Chase 1.4 (1.5) (1.6) (2.1) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) (----) (----) Undercovers 1.3 (1.3) (1.3) (1.4) (1.5) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (-----) The Apprentice 0.9 (1.0) (1.1) (0.9) (2.3) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) (----) Outlaw
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Didn't realize that.
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come on after The First 48? Crazy moms and their crime stories...
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is holding steady. Hate to see that get canceled.
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Cause it's not all middle-aged gay dudes watching that show.
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Then watch it drop below a 2.0, and Community rise up!
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They should be getting The Office lead in. Outsourced is this: "Isn't it funny how Indian people are all like...., and American people are all like..." It's freaking horrible.
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and that time was before Scary Movie.
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Fringe & Sunny are the only 2 i care about.
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to declare a win, or they'll be cancelling a shitload of shows this season. Most everything they've got is at 2.0 or headed in that direction. For myself, COMMUNITY and OFFICE, and maybe THE EVENT, are the only NBC series I'd truly miss. The rest, I couldn't get worked up over their demise.
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That is why stunts like live episodes do so well in the ratings. The only reason why they get a huge bump in the ratings is because want to watch to see if the cast screws up. Next week they will see a huge dip in the ratings.
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Oct. 15, 2010, 3:28 p.m. CST
Hey are we getting a smallville 200th episode talkback tonight?
by Mike_D
I guess it's "the best episode of the series" or something
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Only a 0.2 variance among four episodes. Apparently, roughly the same viewers are tuning in every week. Now how about some more?
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C'mon, it's the last season and a major episode so how about a little talkback love?
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Did you watch the episode? What you are referring to was exactly what the episode was spoofing.
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Do a live broadcast episode!
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The only decent thing in 30 Rock last night was the commericals. Outsourced at least has Oswald!
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its really sad that its the bottom of the four.
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America are you fucking kidding me with this shit?
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...hello? That's gold right there.
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American Office is good. This is why the world hates us and why rich Chinese dudes will be fucking all your daughters in 20 years.
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Seriously, 30 Rock was "ok", and Shit My Dad Says is unbearable, but Community was head and shoulders better and funnier than Big Bang Theory last night, and nobody else seems to care. We in America wonder why they're pushing stupid product at us? Because that's what we watch.
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I just realized last night that he also plays Jacks assistant on 30 Rock and I think he has multiple roles on Outsourced
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Watching my friends laugh at 30 Rock is funnier than actually watching 30 Rock. True story. Have we gotten so dumb that the masses find shit like 30 Rock funny? After seeing how many awards it's won I decided to give it a shot and I was almost embarrassed for my friends that have raved about it. What a terrible show.
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There's nothing that makes you seem cooler than telling a bunch of people that like something that they are stupid and uneducated. IceTitan, making friends everywhere he goes. How much extra room does your superiority complex take up?
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White trash morons? Their comedies shouldn't even be called comedies. They should be called "Show you can commit suicide to" so call them SYCCS. That is CBS programming "SYCCS".
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"My taste is better than yours. People who watch/don't watch a program are the reason we don't have colonies on mars." I knew comic book adaptations are serious business, but not sitcoms are too?
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Survivor and Amazing Race: solid entertainment.
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They stopped the bleeding. It was a really fun episode. Even with two very low key Abed episodes in a row, still may be the most fun show on TV.
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Of course, the fact that it's beloved by geeks worries me, since that has become the kiss of death (see "Why Geeks Don't Get What They Want" at Cracked.com: http://tinyurl.com/25tchc9). Shifting topics, Sunny has been disappointing this year so far. The Halloween episode had better be as spectacular as its rumored to be, and it's still two weeks out. On the other hand, The League seems to be improving.
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Shit is falling somehow, yet it got a bust as well.
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Give love to Clone Wars AICN or you'll be sorry.
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Oct. 16, 2010, 12:56 a.m. CST
NBC's Thursday night is (fairly) solid once again
by RosemarysBabyDaddy
"Community" and "30 Rock" are great shows, despite the geek-hate they're getting on this talkback. "The Office" is stronger than it's been in at least two seasons, maybe more. And "Outsourced" has potential. At first I thought it was kinda racist, then I realized I didn't really care. Is that bad?
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THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT!!!
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It would be a national tragedy if it ever got cancelled before finishing its story. Walter Bishop is a character of pure genius! There hasn't been a scifi show even remotely like it, awesome!
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Best show on tv right now. And you fucking know it Herc.
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Ive never watched a full episode...I hate the show. i think its awful. I watched the live episode though, because I was only curious to see how good it would be - it was good, but the show is still bad and I'll never watch again.
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You get so many things wrong, but than come out with an episode like this. It's a hard job hating you.
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tried it twice. if it smells like shit, its shit. it if looks like shit, its shit. if it sounds like..
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That makes no sense. The only episode you watched was good, but the show is bad and you hate it?
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Since one of the major plot lines of 30rock is the fear that "Cabletown"'s takeover of NBC would turn them into a cable channel.
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That was a really entertaining episode last night. Damn, they're hitting the mark.
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And I've never missed it. How in the hell is this canned laughter shit still winning in the ratings? This saddens me. Don't get me started on whatever the fuck Bazinga is. Didn't stupid, nonsensical catchphrases jump the shark when the Fonz did?
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meh... all the jokes seem too shallow. I mean can we not get beyond stereotyping jokes? What they show really needs to be is a a little deeper on the Indian culture fish out of water side. Unfortunately it's a sitcom so it's a little difficult to go that way. <BR><BR> I guess I'm looking for better writing all around... not jut on the jokey joke side. It really was a great idea for a show. I hope they can pull themselves out of the shallow one off stereotype jokes
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The season opener was amazing. I had to watch the damn thing twice. It was followed by a massively disappointing episode ( the one with Rob Cordry) , so the last 2 episodes have been sort of getting back up on the horse for me. I know that sounds critical, but it's the funniest show on TV right now, and it can do better.
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was better than Community or The Office. Can't really compare it to 30 Rock as that was a one off unique stunt.<p> I enjoyed the live show and there was a good sitcom that had the guts to be live every week.
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Big Bang and 30 Rock are the only TV comedies I make an effort to watch these days. Yet BBT is barely mentioned on here, even though it focuses on four comic-book/sci-fi loving geeks who can't get dates. One of the three or four main sets is a comic book shop, for cripes sake. Right in our wheelhouse. And some eps are funny as hell (this week's wasn't so great, though, despite Sackoff and Takei). Not sure why it's not covered here...
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is a show I can appreciate but not like. Community is ten times funnier.
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receives way more hate than it deserves. It's not the best thing ever, but it has potential to turn into something better, and I think the writers are working toward that... but you have to start somewhere.
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Although, I definitely see how it could come across as offensive because of the portrayals from the cast, and how that results in little to no positive coverage here. Oh wait... I should add that I'm talking about BIG BANG THEORY.
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Am I doing it right?
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Big Bang Theory doesn't get coverage here and people that frequent the site don't watch it because it's not really about geeks/nerds. It's just the cool kids (a.k.a. the writers) giving mainstream audiences a non-threatening tv-friendly version of geekdom. All of us here know that real nerds are way creepy and unsettling, not funny.
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Is a really uneven show. It has episodes of near brilliance, and then... pure shit; I mean, episodes worse than just falling flat, but where they obviously didn't even have enough plot to last 22 minutes, and they were just hoping we wouldn't notice. This season has seemed to be a little better, but... Dan Harmon's always had a sketchy track record like that, with Channel101 and such. We'll see...
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Is, to me, one of those shows like Arrested Development, which I will love until the day I die. That said, I can see how it's not for everybody, and doesn't hit all of the usual comedy marks(if only because it's blatantly not aiming for them). I love the zaniness though, and it constantly has enough brilliance to overshadow any shortcomings, for me anyway.
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Is... The Office. I watch it because... that's what I've always done, and there's nothing else on, heh. Sometimes it's great... but most of the time it's just... there.
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I've never watched. Fuck those clowns.
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Which episodes fell flat for you? I'll agree that some episodes are better than others but I haven't seen a single episode that didn't have more laughs than all other sitcoms on the air right now combined.
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To pick one, I'd say the most painful episode was last year's April Fool's Day episode, with the cadaver. I only watched it when it aired, so I can't remember details, but I do remember cringing at it all the way through. Besides that, some of the shtick they use(and reuse) is just... yeah. Awful. Pierce's weirdo religion stuff? Pure, unfunny filler. Winger's on again/off again relationships with, oh, every girl in the cast weighs down the show more often than not, too. Don't get me wrong, I really like the show and want it to do well, but it really does have that amateur hour smell to it more often than not - like I occasionally can't shake the feeling that I'm watching fanfic of a better show - that shows through in the plot, the broad character strokes and even in the camera work.
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I've noticed almost all of my issues with the show being addressed this season, so I remain a hopeful fan of the show...
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Seemed to peak about halfway through season 1 with the debate and halloween episodes. Ever since then they've gotten more of a smug air and worst of all is when they keep traveling around in a pack like some inseperable backwoods family.<p> Dan Harmon said that they hired new writers towards the end of season 1 so I'm guessing that changed the tone. More movie paraodies and less character development. I still love the cast though, best cast on any sitcom, that keeps me coming back.
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You'd think it would get more love here. But for some reason it doesn't.
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It shouldn't matter if BBT, Chuck, etc. get no love on AICN. If you like the show, watch it... go to fan sites. This is the last place you should be looking to validate your show.
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more like aging gay hipsters than actually geeks
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A repeat already? Have they given up on you? I was still watching!
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because after a great first season or two it has sucked for several years
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the best sitcom on television all other sitcoms are crap
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foxs family guy and american dad
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Just wondering why a show with more Star Trek, Star Wars, comic book, sci-fi references than any other show in TV history is never talked about on a site that's all about that kind of stuff.
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are the "Amos and Andy" of nerds.
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with people dancing around it. I don't see how anyone could enjoy it.
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who had her in the death pool?
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it has a TV RATINGS section. Most of what people watch isn't covered in any meaningful way. And even the 200th episode of a show about the origins of Superman, featuring a geek icon like James Marsters in a guest role can't get coverage. Because WE NEED TO KNOW IF HOUSE HAS BETTER RATINGS THAN SURVIVOR!!!!
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It's called pandering, that's why. Reeks of desperation. Maybe geeks/nerds would rather watch sci-fi than a show about geeks/nerds watching sci-fi. Big difference.
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Oct. 16, 2010, 6:42 p.m. CST
Big Bang Theory is still better than both comibined.
by BurnedNotice_Dude
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Their live attempt was good, but the show is still terrible.
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I genuinely didn't find it funny. I see some arguments above essentially asking: 'It's a show full of geeks; surely you geeks should love it?' Is that the criteria for enjoyment these days, then? <br> <br> It seemed to me, from those 2 episodes I watched, that the leading 'geeks' in the sitcom aren't really geeks at all, but just what popular perception likes to think geeks must enjoy/not enjoy doing. In which case, why would anyone bother? Also, it has a laugh track, which shouldn't really need to be instated were the majority of the jokes funny as standalone jokes. It's 2010, we have The Office, Community, Parks, Eastbound and Down, 30 Rock; probably more good (alive) comedy than we deserve.
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The only show that matters on Thursdays.
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A lot better than the previous week.
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Oct. 16, 2010, 10:33 p.m. CST
Adding a laugh track/live audience to 30 Rock this week
by Voice O. Reason
Made it seem like a pretty generic sitcom.
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that's fucked up..
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Smallville hit it out of the park this week, and the Bobby-centric Supernatural makes me think the show might actually be quite good this season. I've had my doubts, but that was a great ep. It doesn't hurt that Kripke is still involved, albeit to a lesser extent, either.
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Their ratings were pretty good this week too. Smallville won its 8pm slot in the 18-49 bracket and pulled a 1.3. Supernatural was 2nd in the 9pm slot. Not bad for the cw.
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In this section of the site, 90% of the posts are about people bitching that a show they like is being canceled or is canceled, like firefly, chuck or angel. <p> Also, your wrong http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Supernatural_%28TV_ series%29#Ratings <p> remove spaces. Supernatural has always pulled above a 2, just not this season, since they moved it to the friday death slot... Also, its 5 or 6 years old. Get a clue.
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I confused # of viewers and rating on the chart posted. I suck. my bad.
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I disagree about Community peaking early in season one. The paintball episode was the funniest episode of any comedy series aired on TV last season.
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One was the return of Katee Sackhoff to Big Bang Theory, as creepy Jewish masturbation fodder. <br /><br />The other was the appearance of George Takei as confused Jewish masturbation fodder.<br /><br />Having Julia Louis Dreyfuss cameo'ing in 30 Rock as dream sequence Liz Lemon was just icing on my cake.
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Turn off the TV and do something productive, I beg of you. Is your life really going to be that much more enjoyable if you watch "Survivor"? Ugh Here we are now...ENTERTAIN US!!!!! 95% of the shows on TV are just total crap to fill in the void that people used to fill by learning a new hobby or reading. Terrible.
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Learned that if I watch TBBT in real time and Tivo the NBC line-up, I can watch Community, 30 Rock, The Office, and Outsourced before switching to FX to catch Sunny and The League back in real time. I've got this technology thing by the balls, baby!
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I wasn't saying that BBT should be covered here just because it's about alleged nerds and their geeky habits - the key is that it's a FUNNY show about those things. Humor, though, is the most subjective thing there is - you don't find it funny; I do. Not every ep is a winner, though, so maybe you caught a couple of duds (this week's wasn't so hot, for instance). And they could definitely lose the laugh track. Not to throw ratings out there, but obviously others out there find it funny, too, so it's odd that this site doesn't cover it much. I don't come here for "validation," but rather for some back-and-forth about what clicked and what didn't in a given episode. But I hardly see it mentioned here, of all places. I can buy the argument about it showing the mainstream view of geeks, as opposed to "real geeks"... to a point at least. But when they start referencing obscure comics, and get every detail right, it tells me that someone on the staff is earning some geek cred!
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BBT is for geeks what McDonalds is for a french chef - it's a dumbed down, cliched vision of the VERY unrealistic life of scientists, and is supported only by the excentric character "Sheldon". It is funny on some occasions, but as funny as most sitcoms. Also, it features a laugh track, something that is (or should be) as defunct as point and click adventure games and progressive rock. I remember watching the first episode of the 2nd season and saking myself why is this still on the air (I thought it was cancelled, for some reason). I watched some of the third season and found it amusing on some occasions.
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Lose the laugh track, switch to a single camera setup, add more characters, make it more realistic, and THEN you have something real good.
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when Scrubs did their musical episode I felt I saw the highpoint of the series & didnt want to watch anymore, for fear the show would embarass itself. I felt the same after the live 30Rock. Also, my take on NBC thurs nite: Community VERY CLEVER, 30Rock VERY WITTY, The Office SKNNNNZZZZZZZZShnoorrrrrrrre.......
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is forced to mention (if only in pasted print) Its Always Sunny. While some comedies have off seasons, Sunny is going strong in its SIXTH season.<p>Glad to see the CSI juggernaut has finally waned. Wonder what William Peterson's been doing lately?
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'30 Rock' gets beat by a Twitter-based shitcom and it's spun to look like a win. Incredible.
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