Oct. 13, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST
Oct. 13, 2010, 7:15 p.m. CST
Seems like every show is circling the drain. How is Sunny doing?
Oct. 13, 2010, 7:21 p.m. CST
poorly I hope
Oct. 13, 2010, 7:26 p.m. CST
I could see all of those cancelled before Christmas. Highly doubt Chuck would dip. The audience is the audience; and they keep showing up without being bombarded with Advertising. 1.8-2.2, for the rest of the season.
Oct. 13, 2010, 7:30 p.m. CST
Outsourced looks like the worst thing to hit network TV is some time, but it's kicking the shit out of Parks and Rec. NBC won't cancel a hit to bring Parks and Rec back early.
Oct. 13, 2010, 7:31 p.m. CST
Oct. 13, 2010, 7:43 p.m. CST
Come on, Herc...a little proofreading won't kill you
Oct. 13, 2010, 7:49 p.m. CST
dont be a douche fringe is the best show since lost
Oct. 13, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST
read the wrong post that was for juansanchez
Oct. 13, 2010, 7:59 p.m. CST
Oct. 13, 2010, 8:24 p.m. CST
...what have they got that will do better, in sufficient amounts, to replace them? There's only so many repeats and reality shows you can toss on the air. Probably 3-4 shows will crash and burn, and the rest will plod along to the rest of the season, and a couple will get second season renewals for no visible reason (see "Better off Ted" last year).
Oct. 13, 2010, 9:16 p.m. CST
It's time to do away with it especially when the technology exists already for most of the viewing audiences Fios, Direct TV and Cable boxes to accurately track live viewership as well as DVR. Combine those numbers with Hulu and the streams from the Networks websites and there you go.
Oct. 13, 2010, 10:01 p.m. CST
I mean really. There's absolute shit on every fucking network, and I can get what little good there is online somewhere.
Oct. 13, 2010, 10:03 p.m. CST
Oct. 13, 2010, 10:09 p.m. CST
is everything fucking dropping in ratings? Just fucking abort television.
Oct. 13, 2010, 10:20 p.m. CST
Especially with Internet capable TVs coming out and cheap little boxes like Apple TV and Google TV that let you stream content to your old fashioned TV just released. The tried and true network business model is on life support. The prognosis is not good.
Oct. 13, 2010, 10:48 p.m. CST
by Ronald Raygun
Funny. Had the same exact reaction to both shows. Watched one episode, thought "This is a pretty cool show". Then about two episodes later, realized how much it sucked and never watched it again.
Oct. 13, 2010, 10:56 p.m. CST
That makes perfect sense. Put the shitty Outsourced against Big Bang, and put the quality Community after the Office. It's win-win.
Oct. 13, 2010, 10:56 p.m. CST
Worthless, outdated piece of crap.
Oct. 13, 2010, 11:29 p.m. CST
Their budget is actually pretty low, so while it's ratings are lower then Heroes, it's also alot cheaper per episode, which means it's profitable even at the lower ratings.
Oct. 14, 2010, 12:39 a.m. CST
hey herc...how much does the event cost to produce?<p>and dont they have to promise advertisers a certain amount of audience or they have to give away time on other shows?<P>there are 8 shows in the can...no word on them making any more<P>the show goes on hiatus in november, never to be heard from again<P>what is interesting is that numbers are down across the board...where are all the people going...hopefully back to reading books and spending quality time with their kids
Oct. 14, 2010, 12:45 a.m. CST
Oct. 14, 2010, 1:37 a.m. CST
Parenthood and Community are both in the red zone already and continue to drop. The Event and NOF are safe for now and will likely make a full season, but if they continue dropping week to week they will be in the red before hiatus. Chuck is hard to say, everyone thought it was done last year, but it just keeps squeezing by. 187 is a goner, Undercovers & Chase are gone, Fringe is probably done this year as much as I hate to say that. Strangely enough, I believe The Office is in trouble for next season. Their ratings have dropped a full point just over 2 weeks and Steve Carrell hasn't departed it yet.
Oct. 14, 2010, 1:43 a.m. CST
I don't get it, but CBS has some loyal fucking viewers. I don't watch any of their shows except the occasional episode of HIMYM, but all their shows stay stable in ratings or only see small drops. Whatever is in their kool-aid, it's working on their loyal viewers who enjoy their bland shows.
Oct. 14, 2010, 1:50 a.m. CST
I think Community is safe. Granted...putting it up against BBT isn't doing it any favors, but after they got picked up for season 1 they signed all the actors to a fairly cheap four-season contract. Add to that the fact that the show's budget is very small, it's iTunes & Hulu rankings are high, and the season 1 DVD is selling very well...and I think it's okay for a while.
Oct. 14, 2010, 2:59 a.m. CST
by Don Lockwood
...is on after Criminal Minds, not NCIS LA. Do you actually watch any of these shows or do you just regurgitate the numbers and what you read on other sites?
Oct. 14, 2010, 3:55 a.m. CST
I get the feeling I'm the only person on the planet who really likes "The Good Guys". Its worth it for Brad Whitford's performance alone. Reputed to be made in-house and on a comparatively small budget per episode (and thus potentially more profitable), I doubt it'll be the easy write off that you would expect of such a low Nielsen rater.
Oct. 14, 2010, 4:45 a.m. CST
time of death 4:51 10/14/10
Oct. 14, 2010, 5:17 a.m. CST
by JT Kirk
This season's schedule is dogshit. There's almost nothing on network to watch Monday or Wednesday at 10pm except Castle on Monday. The Rape Show (aka Law & Order SVU) is back to a stupid 9pm timeslot, L&O LA is mediocre, The Defenders isn't even the fun its stupid casting and ads promised, Hawaii 5-O is brainless and bland, Chase is... who gives a fuck, The Whole Truth feels like too much of a latecomer in the legal show party, and that's just 2 timeslots in a whole week! There are almost no new shows worth watching, and Fox can't market its new shows whether or not they're worth marketing, and CBS has no flow, and NBC is still NBC, and ABC seems to be rolling cheap.
Oct. 14, 2010, 5:27 a.m. CST
It's AMC, HBO, and all the little channels that are worth watching these days.
Oct. 14, 2010, 8:20 a.m. CST
it follows Criminal Minds. Not that that makes much difference.
Oct. 14, 2010, 8:45 a.m. CST
Most of the fellow Chuck-watchers I know time-delay it either by Tivo, On-Demand, or web streaming. Since Comcast always has Chuck and The Event ready to go On-Demand, I know I can miss them during broadcast. (It's not like I matter to the ratings anyway, right?)
Oct. 14, 2010, 8:50 a.m. CST
was not on last night. TiVO thought it was, but turned out to be that smarmy bitch Diane Sawyer, with a 20/20 special. Guess I'll go see if it is on Hulu. Rob Morrow can make any show entertaining. I can't believe he carried Numbers for FIVE FREAKING SEASONS. He is a machine, and I don't know his secret, but he looks the exact same as he did as Joel Fleischman 20ish years ago.
Oct. 14, 2010, 9 a.m. CST
But somehow, NO ORDINARY FAMILY is "plummeting sharply" while THE EVENT is "doing much better than TRAUMA did in the same time slot." Some interesting spin there.
Oct. 14, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST
I too think The Good Guys is funny. This is about the third time I've posted the following re. The Good Guys: I still can't believe people, especially AICN people, have ignored the fact that Danny Trejo was a guest on last week's episode: and no one's talking about it: a good, funny episode on friday featuring Danny Trejo ("Machete") ... Danny Trejo, for God's sake, giving a funny piss-taking performance .... and there wasn't one mention that he was in it in any of the ads that I saw. What the hell! You've got this B-Movie cult icon guesting on your quirky comedy cop show and you don't bother to mention it .... say what you want about "Chuck", but those guys have milked the name/face recognition of their guest stars for all it's worth. i haven't been to the official Good Guys website (is there one?) but it seems to be a show tailor-made for some out of the box marketing (the 'stache, the car, the cheesy 80s cop-show vibe); hell, why don't they make the "Savage and Stark" TV movie and put snippets of it on You Tube?? Wouldn't that be the obvious thing?
Oct. 14, 2010, 9:21 a.m. CST
"... of the Wednesday L&O series.<p>There's even more talk of going back to the celebrity format.
Oct. 14, 2010, 10:15 a.m. CST
I still wonder what would happen if a major network took a look at a show and said, "We're going to commit right now to showing this thing for three years. The budget is going to be adjusted based on ratings, but you're guaranteed at least 66 episodes over a three year span." If people KNOW that the show is going to be there for them and has no risk of cancellation, the audience might be willing to give it more of a chance.
Oct. 14, 2010, 10:23 a.m. CST
by Bass Ackwards
Good Guys, Terriers, and Running Wilde (did no one watch this week? How could you not be cracking up with Wilde's idea of a car wash?); three quality shows that aren't getting anywhere near the amount of love try should be getting. Of the three Good Guys is the weakest, and frustratingly falls back on to some formulaic cliches almost every episode, BUT, its still fun and the two leads work great together (and that blonde is ridiculously hot!).
Oct. 14, 2010, 11:11 a.m. CST
Not sure if this has been discussed, but unlike most shows, CBS actually owns the rights to Medium, it was a rare CBS-produced show that was on NBC first. CBS took it over because of the increased revenues they make from syndication and DVDs down the line. So even thought it's struggling ratings wise, there is more going on as far as the economics of the show goes. Plus, Even at 1.2 ratings it still contends in that dreadful "kiss of death" timeslot.
Oct. 14, 2010, 12:23 p.m. CST
by Jim Jam Bongs
My assessment is that it isn't the actors at all (the casting for the series is excellent, by the way), or that there's a problem with its overall concept. The scriptwriting is so-so and in several episodes the "zany" and "quirky" elements have been a bit too corny (especially bad guys talking in atrocious accents -- the worst had to have been the Boston bookie), which may have turned off viewers. But even I don't think this (the writing) is the source of the problem -- I think this reveals a bigger problem.<p><p>The problem is this: I get the general impression now that there is not much enthusiasm for the project by FOX (except for Kevin Reilly cheerleading), Matt Nix, and even by Hanks and Whitford. I'm not sure why this is the case, but none of these people really seem to be "into" it, making this series.<p><p>How could this possibly be the case? This is just a guess: the entire series concept seems like something that was thrown together by FOX to spend several already agreed-upon contracts at once. My guess is that the network had Whitford, Hanks and Nix each signed to individual talent-holding agreements. And rather than allow these three agreements expire, they threw all three together and ordered them to do a cop show. Seriously.<p><p>This would explain a lot, frankly. Why FOX has apparently stuck with this series, despite its terrible, and still steadily declining ratings, and paying the production in Dallas to crank out 20 episodes. Because it all feels like "satisfying expensive contract fulfillment clauses".<p><p>Oh, and as for the Dallas setting: they're only shooting in that city due to huge tax breaks that the city has given Fox Television (the production arm), and also the fact that it is one of the top ten TV viewer ratings cities in the U.S.. Atlanta, which has a similar sized ratings audience, was also considered, but that city didn't cough up enough tax freebies. So that's why the series is set in Dallas (and why the setting of its episodes feel generic, compared with "Chase" which is set in south Texas and constantly likes to remind viewers of this).<p><p>I know some colleagues in Dallas, and I don't think they want to consider this: But I wonder if they even want to be in Dallas at all.
Oct. 14, 2010, 12:36 p.m. CST
Funny, funny show. Also bummed about Life Unexpected and No Ordinary Family.
Oct. 14, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST
..all tingly with excitement as apparently you will decide, based on incomplete and spurious data to say the least, what will be the next series to be canceled? The truth is, money decides, and if a series is being consistent in it's ratings points, it will stay. There is far too much evidence to prove this, if you have the time and inclination. And, to be even more rational, not all decisions are made on that precious 18-49 demo you are so in love with.
Oct. 14, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST
Always see the first few minutes of it after HIMYM, and it looks awful. Who enjoys watching David Spade be an insufferable prick for 30 mins each week?
Oct. 14, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST
Undercover boss is losing steam because its never on when they say its on. cbs and all the guids say its on at 9pm but its never on till like 9:45 by then people will turn to something else. You cant even dvr it because its never on at the same time.
Oct. 14, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST
for four more scripts. Haven't heard anything yet about The Ev3nt.
Oct. 14, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
So the show's creator and its two stars don't even want to be doing this show at all and never did? Wow. That's a crazy theory, but I could see it making a lot of sense. If the three were signed to talent holding deals with FOX which were about to expire, and the network was going to pay a huge penalty, then it would make more sense to quickly produce one show (instead of three shows) throwing the three men together. Now that I think about all the episodes (I've watched every one so far), the casting of the guest stars has been excellent, and the guest actors have done great jobs, despite being saddled with lousy characters. Hanks has always come across as a bit too uptight in the role -- I figured it was the Texas heat. Whitford comes off as if he's staggering lazily through some ways, and then bursting out -- I figured he was just playing character, but his performance has had an uneven, unfocused vibe to it. This theory also explains the show's scriptwriting and charaterizations -- some of the episodes come off as though the writer is daring you to like the episode. Maybe if FOX decides to torment them with another season, things will go into a surreal, self-hating bent even further, like what happened on that FOX sitcom that aired on Sundays for a few seasons that nobody watched (and which I cannot remember the title of).
Oct. 14, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST
...fade away... <p> Get it? "My Generation?" ha.
Oct. 15, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST
Be interesting to see the cancellation numbers of cable and dish companies since the economy hit the shitter. THese are some horrible numbers.