Oct. 13, 2010, 1:01 a.m. CST
Harvey Keitel should play Bilbo Baggins
Oct. 13, 2010, 1:01 a.m. CST
Oct. 13, 2010, 1:42 a.m. CST
In the scene where Gandalf says - "Behold: the great realm and Dwarf city of Dwarrowdelf." The music was overwhelming. I knew I was watching something historic and I was glad I lived to see it.
Oct. 13, 2010, 2:10 a.m. CST
I'm assuming when you say Douglas Adams you mean Howard Shore. Being dead makes it kind of hard to compose music. (not to mention NOT being a composer either!)
Oct. 13, 2010, 2:12 a.m. CST
if you guys are trolling or actually retarded. There is a reason for the quotes and the word AUTHOR in the post title.
Oct. 13, 2010, 2:33 a.m. CST
I met both Mr Adams and Mr Shore in London a few weeks ago and they were both very grounded and entertaining. Think i may pick up a copy of this after xmas.
Oct. 13, 2010, 3:24 a.m. CST
and just to confirm, Doug Adams was very much alive, not a reanimated corpse of the sci-fi author and did not smell of formaldahyde.
Oct. 13, 2010, 5:11 a.m. CST
by Mr Gorilla
Here goes. I feel very strongly that the extended edition of THE FELLOWSHIP is one of the great fantasy films. I love it. But I just don't think the other two films are anywhere near as good. I was interested to see an interview with Viggo Mortensen recently when he expressed a similar opinion. He said the latter two films got more interested in special effects and action - they were good as such but in his opinion too the extended edition of FELLOWSHIP is the pinnacle of the trilogy. Let me be clear, I'm not here to fight, or to say that the other two are terrible films, but I'd love to see if anyone else agrees?
Oct. 13, 2010, 6:47 a.m. CST
Fellowship is by far the best of the three. Watching BTS on the DVDs you realize how little Jackson actually directed for someone nominated for an Oscar. In two towers his partner directed Gollums conversation with himself. During a round table interview last year with all the Oscar hopefuls Tarantino, Reitman, James Cameron and a few others. Anyway Peter is asked a question about his least favorite part of the process of film making, his answer was dialogue scenes(He used the council of Elron scene in fellowship as an example of his dis taste for scenes without and action or visual flare). The films really don't hold up well over time. The CGI looks really dated at some points(Gollums the exception) and his CGI camera sweeps and moves really take you out of the movie. And I love Howard shore but his scores have alot of those "dud" moments the author was referring to when referencing Williams. The music during Return of The King where the ghosts win the battle of Gondor is not up to par. That being said Howard Shore did write some great themes some of the best since Star Wars, however he hasn't lived up to the music quality in this LOTR movies. I find my self hoping he will get to make a great non LOTR related film but so far he hadn't been able to. That could be by choice on his part but based on his choices of late(Twiligh eclipset, that E.T rip off kids movie from a few years back) I think he's trying to proove something. The Departed was good but had only a few ques. I hope they hire him for a Super Hero movie so he can truly give us another great theme, something contemporary comic book fliks haven't had. You can hum a theme from a superhero film in the last 10 years? Maybe Sony will hire him for Spider-Man
Oct. 13, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST
Look you guys have got to stop with your wet dream interviews. They are gay. Come on, interviewing a guy 10 years after? Shit's LONG GONE.
Oct. 13, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST
Please take a fucking english course. I tried reading your post but it was like a retard wrote it.
Oct. 13, 2010, 9:17 a.m. CST
Have seen the EEs multiple times, bought all the CDs, books, etc. But a few years removed from the series, you get the sense that this was a one-time moment of brilliance for Peter Jackson. The guy showed real restraint for Fellowship, then increasingly became enamored with special effects and battle scenes as the series went on. There are several unnecessary scenes and additions to the book in the movies, (kudos for mentioning the Gollum beating scene, pointless). I just hope that if he ends up directing the Hobbit, he'll recognize that the book is more of a classic adventure story than the operatic Nibelungen of the main trilogy. Keep it light, focused, don't try to add new unneccesary scenes, and it might work.
Oct. 13, 2010, 9:57 a.m. CST
Oct. 13, 2010, 9:59 a.m. CST
But yeah, the Fellowship of the Ring EE is easily the best of the series. It's one of my favorite movies of all time, but it's really all down hill from there. As was already said, it seemed really did seem like there was too much unneeded stuff in the other two films and Jackson lacked restraint at what to put in. Did we need that bullshit where Arwen was going to die if the ring wasn't destroyed? No, we didn't.
Oct. 13, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST
...for those who haven't been keeping up with what Jackson intends to do with The Hobbit: Short and sweet...it will be a two movie prequel to Peter Jackson's movie adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's, The Lord of the Rings. He has already said there will be material used from the appendices. Anybody expecting a faithful re-telling of our beloved Hobbit is already in for a real disappointment.<p>Personally, I'm very excited about the whole prospect. I hope we see the Battle of Azanulbizar, the Necromancer driven from Dol Guldur and all the White Council goodness that can be wedged in. I'm not looking for anything other than another great effort by Jackson.<p>On topic: Looks like I'll have to pick up a copy of Mr. Adam's book and re-visit Howard's wonderful work. It's definetly near the top of all my other favorite movie scores.<p>Wow...you could go back to the AICN TB archives right after TTT and RotK came out and read practically the same comments. I think Jackson's LotR has aged wonderfully but the AICN fan comments haven't.
Oct. 13, 2010, 12:08 p.m. CST
Why no mention of the raritied CD and all the additional music. Of course, I'm only part way through my copy of the book.
Oct. 13, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST
by TV's Frank
I only realized this recently. Previously I had liked ROTK best. The first film is helped by the fact that the corresponding book has a linear narrative, rather than jumping between the storylines of different groups of characters as in TTT and ROTK. I think really Jackson should have preserved the structure of the latter two books, in which the story of Aragorn etc. is told in full, followed by Frodo's story in full. As it is, TTT and ROTK feel kind of rushed and frantic, constantly jumping around and not letting the viewer become fully immersed in any one situation. But more than the nonlinearity of the narrative, really I think it's just that Jackson allowed the second two movies to become much more cartoonish and over-the-top than the first. They can be enjoyed immensely if you think of them more as fun B-movies, but if you try to enjoy them on the same level as FOTR, you will be disappointed. And just to be clear, TTT and ROTK are still two of my favorite all time movies. And there are even parts of these two that are, in my opinion, on par with Fellowship, such as the epilogue of ROTK.
Oct. 13, 2010, 12:55 p.m. CST
2001: A Space Odyssey didn't have a score. Kubrick famously threw out Alex North's original score and decided to go with classical source music instead. <p> Also in regards to Last Of The Mohicans, Michael Mann botched the score just as he has done for all his films. While Trevor Jones music is pretty great, Mann originally wanted an electronic score, but then in the middle of scoring changed his mind to wanting an orchestral score, causing Trevor Jones alot of headache and undue waisted time. This is why Randy Edelman had to be brought in to finish the score and is credited along with Jones. At the end of the day Mann took whatever little pieces he liked from both composers and edited them on a loop all over the place. It's still great music, but no it's not a great example of film composition.<p> Also Michael Mann is an incompetent fraud. This is evidenced in the shoddily produced incoherence of every film he's ever made outside of Heat, his one masterpeiced (which incidentally still has things that make absolutely no sense). Mohicans, Collateral and The Insider are admittedly solid. But look at the debacle known as The Keep. Or the ending of Manhunter. Or the moment when ALi all of a sudden became a student film shot on a handycam. Or Will Smith running through the streets of Zaire in Slow Motion for what felt like about an hour. And then there's Public Enemies, wow! Just wow. What an absolute mess of a movie. Filmed entirely by a 7 year old with his digi-cam and edited by his little sister. I mean everything that could have been intriguing about Dillinger was skipped in favor of cutting to the in-between monotony of his criminal endeavors. There's no emphasis at all on the planning and execution of the exploits which Dillinger was so famous for. The last ten or so minutes where actually comprehensible and interesting but not terribly compelling due to the jumble that proceeded it. <p> Now add to all that the fact the a couple of years ago Mann was commissioned by the Academy Awards to assemble a montage presentation depicting American history as told through film. And while he remembered to use clips from his own works, including Ali. Mann somehow neglected to use a single frame from the film oeuvre of the man who could single-handedly compose the latter half of the twentieth century. OLIVER STONE! That's unforgivable. I used to be a big champion of Michael Mann, but by now he's broke my heart too many times. <p> So anyway, what were we talking about...?
Oct. 13, 2010, 12:56 p.m. CST
you'd beg Mel Gibson to direct it. <p> Fact.
Oct. 13, 2010, 1:10 p.m. CST
whilst hitchhiking to Hobbiton. Weez needs new nits to pick.
Oct. 13, 2010, 1:34 p.m. CST
TOP 25 FILM SCORES OF THE DECADE (2000-2009)<P> 01. LOTR - Howard Shore <p> 02. Gladiator - Hans Zimemr <p> 03. Road To Perdition - Thomas Newman <p> 04. The Passion Of The Christ - John Debney (not a rip off of Peter Gabriel!) <p> 05. The Last Samurai - Hans Zimmer <p> 06. Finding Nemo - Thomas Newman <p> 07. The Dark Knight - Hans Zimmer & James Newton Howard <p> 08. A.I. - Artificial Intellegence - John Williams <p> 09. The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford - Nick Cave & Warren Ellis <p> 10. Sunshine - John Murphy & Underworld<p> 11. WALL-E - Thomas Newman <p> 12. Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End - Hans Zimmer <p> 13. The Village - James Newton Howard <p> 14. Memoirs Of A Geisha - John Williams <p> 15. The Da Vinci Code - Hans Zimmer <p> 16. Cinderella Man - Thomas Newman <p> 17. Signs - James Newton Howard <p> 18. Pearl Harbor - Hans Zimmer <p> 19. Casino Royale - David Arnold <p> 20. Moon - Clint Mansell <p> 21. Hidalgo - James Newton Howard <p> 22. Kigdom Of Heaven - Harry Gregson-Williams <p> 23. Hannibal - Hans Zimmer <p> 24. Lady In The Water - James Newton Howard <p> 25. Sherlock Holmes - Hans Zimmer <P> <P> <P> Special mention to John Debney's epic score to the video game "Lair".
Oct. 13, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST
The best part of Revenge Of The Sith was when Padme is looking out over Coruscant while the music ticks with impending dread. It's stolen from "Journey To The Line", from Hans Zimmer's score to The Thin Red Line. <p> Did you just say 300? What? Tyler Bates has got to be the most trite composer (and I do use that term loosely) out there pal. If he gets hired on for Superman, there will be no hope. <p> Hannibal had an awesomely gothic and beautifully disturbing score. Way better in my opinion to Howard Shore's already quite good composition for Silence Of The Lambs. <p> One thing that I shouldn't have left out though was Marco Beltrami's score for Hellboy. That was pretty great! Javiar Naverrete's score for Pan's Labyrinth was also very good. As was Bruno Coulais' Coraline. Or Nick Cave & Warren Ellis' The Proposition and The Road. Clint Mansell's Requiem For A Dream. John William's Catch Me If You Can, The Terminal and Munich. Brian Tyler's Frailty and Children Of Dune. Jerry Goldsmith's Hollow Man. Alan Silvestri's Van Helsing or Beowulf. Vangelis' Alexander. James Horner's Apacalypto, The New World and Avatar. Michael Giacchino's Star Trek, Lost, Ratatouille, Up and The Incredibles. Mark Isham's The Cooler. Dany Elfman's Red Dragon. Randy Newman's Seabiscuit. Alex & Jake Parker's The Life OF David Gale. Johnny Greenwood's There Will Be Blod. <p> I'd buy an argument for any of those scores. You should have brought up those as being overlooked on my initial list. Hell, if I had it to do over again I'd probably amend the ist with some of those. But ROTS, I like it but no not really. And 300, absolutely not. <p> It's all good though, I don't mind taking time out to educate. You're welcome.
Oct. 13, 2010, 3:27 p.m. CST
It leaves absolutely no room for any sort of subtext or nuance. LOTR has certain moments that are very memorable, but plenty that also take time to absorb...that's exactly how it should be, in my opinion. Anyway, if something is TOO iconic, it tends to lose some of its effectiveness.
Oct. 13, 2010, 5 p.m. CST
Tan Dun's music for Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon and Hero definitely desirves a place among the decade's best. Harry Gregson-Williams' Spy Game and John Powell's The Bourne Identity were both fantastic. Michael Kamen's Band Of Brothers and X-Men was some powerful stuff. I liked Nick Glennie-Smith's We Were Soldiers a fair amount as well. Thomas Newman's Revolutionary Road and Angles In America. Marco Beltrami's Blade 2 and 3:10 To Yuma. John Debney's The Stoning Of Soraya M. and Zathura. John Barry's Enigma. Edward Shearmur's Sky Captain And The World Of Tomorrow and K-Pax. Dario Marianelli's Atonement and Pride And Prejudice. Alexandre Desplat's Hostage, Birth, The Painted Veil, The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button and The Fantastic Mr. Fox. Roque Baños' The Machinist. Klaus Badelt's Equilibrium. James Newton Howards Unbreakable and King Kong. David Shire's Zodiac. Geoff Zanelli's Outlander! HArt's War by Rachel Portman. Frank Herbert's Dune by Graeme Revell was really good too. Let us also not overlook Mark Mothersbaugh's Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs and John Ottman's Astro Boy and X2. I liked a lot of Eastwoods scores as well.
Oct. 13, 2010, 5 p.m. CST
by Shaner Jedi
I agree with you and Viggo about FOTR. It also has the most levity and charm of the three. One of my favorite films. TTT and ROTK are both good, but not to the level that is FOTR.
Oct. 13, 2010, 10:45 p.m. CST
It's a great story and the type of fairy tale you read to your child before bed. There's a lot of different elements to Fellowship of the Ring. The shire. The inn, moria, caras galadhon, the tree-city of lothlorien. boromir's death. TTT and ROTK had great moments, but they were more about the impending war coming. They kept driving that point home. War is coming! War war war!
Oct. 14, 2010, 2:39 a.m. CST
I wrote that from my cellphone which auto fills certain words and can be very annoying for correcting mistakes with. Your right. I'm ashamed.
Oct. 16, 2010, 4:45 a.m. CST
I wanna play! <P> ;-) <P> TOP 30 FILM SCORES OF THE DECADE (2000-2009) (In no particular order...) <P> Gladiator - Hans Zimmer <P> Unbreakable - James Newton Howard <P> The Village - James Newton Howard <P> Lady in the Water - James Newton Howard <P> Signs - James Newton Howard <P> The Dark Knight - James Newton Howard/Hans Zimmer <P> Batman Begins - James Newton Howard/Hans Zimmer <P> X-Men - Michael Kamen <P> Spiderman - Danny Elfman <P> Final Fantasy - Elliot Goldenthal <P> Running Scared - Mark Isham <P> The Passion of the Christ - John Debney <P> Sin City - John Debney/Graeme Revell/Robert Rodriguez <P> The Incredibles - Michael Giacchino <P> Hero - Tan Dun <P> Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - Tan Dun <P> The Machinist - Roque Banos <P> Pan's Labyrinth - Javier Navarrete <P> V for Vendetta - Dario Marianelli <P> Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Jon Brion <P> Catch Me If You Can - John Williams <P> Transformers - Steve Jablonsky <P> Crank 2 - Mike Patton <P> Brick - Nathan Johnson <P> 28 Days Later - John Murphy <P> There Will Be Blood - Johnny Greenwood <P> Road to Perdition - Thomas Newman <P> Enemy at the Gates - James Horner <P> Slumdog Millionaire - A.R. Rahman <P> Old Boy - Hyun-Jung Shim <P> And an honorable mention to... Kill Bill by the RZA, and various artists (Morricone, etc...)