Oct. 7, 2010, 3:31 p.m. CST
...make the chances of another season of Chuck look better and better. (Anyone taking bets on when the Event will dip below Chuck in the numbers?) Community is quickly becoming a bigger concern on the NBC bubble.
Oct. 7, 2010, 3:35 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
No new show seems to be doing well, and most returning shows are faltering. Maybe Americans no longer are into watching broadcast network TV, unless it's a reality show.
Oct. 7, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST
that fat gay guy is hilarious and thoughts of a gangbang with the 3 hot chicks on this show keep me coming back for more.<p>ABC can quote me on that
Oct. 7, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST
Somebody explained to me what they mean: the percentage of 18-49 yr-olds in America who own televisions. But how many people is that? For instance, the 4.5 that Modern Family got last night...how many people is that? 10 million? Twenty? I only ask because networks make ruthless decisions based on these ratings and I'm curious how they justify 10 million viewers for one show is good but 8 million viewers for another show is bad (or whatever; maybe it's more or less)
Oct. 7, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST
Since that is the only way to ensure ratings.
Oct. 7, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST
ratings are bullshit. theyre all guestimations
Oct. 7, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST
I'll be spaming the shit out of Herc's talkbacks and twitter account in celebration.
Oct. 7, 2010, 4:01 p.m. CST
you're probably right, but i still don't understand why the networks are so ruthless ... i know it's all about ad revenue, of course, and if I understand correctly, they set the ad rates months in advance and give advertisers a sneak peek of new shows, and so a few years back the people who signed up to advertise around "Heroes" got a relative bargain as NBC didn't have high hopes for the show as they figured it might be a difficult sell: superheroes without costumes ... I still don't understand why American networks aren't content to simply make a 6 or 8 part series instead of this slavish devotion to 22 or 24 weeks.
Oct. 7, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST
american TV networks are staffed by morons. there can be no other reason. no one knows what the fuck theyre doing!
Oct. 7, 2010, 4:09 p.m. CST
It is a cute show. Bad things usually have bad results. Good actions have better results. Nice to see a nod to integrity on TV that isn't 7th Heaven. This show actually show better responsibility for one's actions better than that show.
Oct. 7, 2010, 4:20 p.m. CST
Who is the 3rd "hot chick" from Modern Family?
Oct. 7, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST
LOST ended. The day...the tv...died. We were singing bye, bye losties.
Oct. 7, 2010, 4:28 p.m. CST
Are the mom, Haley, and grandpas wife. I don't know why I can't come up with their names. Claire? That's the mom, I think. Haley...so hot. And Sofia Vergara. I'm usually not interested in such lewd, stupid conversations...but yea...that's a pretty good one. I'd settle for just Haley tho. And she;s like 20 in real life, so its not disgusting.
Oct. 7, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST
Sucks. I hope it is cancelled soon.
Oct. 7, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST
...but I'm not digging the current Survivor at all. I give them credit for finally merging the challenges, but man, there's really no one to root for at this point. A shortage of eye candy as well. And Nayonka may very well be the most annoying Survivor contestant I've ever seen, and I've watched every season.
Oct. 7, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST
...from her screening, then CBS should be ashamed for putting her on tv, especially given their lack of diversity in picking contestants.
Oct. 7, 2010, 4:42 p.m. CST
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
Oct. 7, 2010, 5:06 p.m. CST
is dead people!!! get over it cancel all these frakkin shows
Oct. 7, 2010, 5:07 p.m. CST
Disappointments this season for me: "notHawaiiFive-O," "Nikita," and "LOLA." <p> Not as bad as I had feared: "The Chase." <p> BTW, Herc, thanks for posting the ratings. It's good to have one-stop reference.
Oct. 7, 2010, 5:14 p.m. CST
by Kiera Knightley's Sexy Beanpole
or bring in the Undercover Brother
Oct. 7, 2010, 5:17 p.m. CST
i haven't found one. <P> holding out hope for amc's walking dead. if it fails, at least 2010 gave us boardwalk empire. the rest of the new american shows in 2010 have been crap.
Oct. 7, 2010, 5:18 p.m. CST
the show gets better & better in each episode.. It is turning into a pretty good show
Oct. 7, 2010, 5:33 p.m. CST
It has the worst writing. I started watching it last night, and made it through that terrible french toast dialog scene, then turned it off at the over used dumb romcom chick says something, gay guy says same thing ahahahahaha! That is not funny you hack writers.
Oct. 7, 2010, 5:50 p.m. CST
It is the only sitcom currently coming up with interesting new shit. I wish would swap places with 30 Rock, which the critics like, but is god fuckin awful and not funny at all; and would get cancelled after getting bent over and dirtroaded by the Big Bang Theory.
Oct. 7, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST
The writing is crazy fresh, there's been nothing like it on television since The Rockford Files.
Oct. 7, 2010, 6:20 p.m. CST
I am amazed that this show even got launched considering the lack of star power. The writing is as bad as it gets. How long did they expect to get by with the whole "LOOK THEY'RE MARRIED AND THEY'RE BOTH AGENTS AND HAVE TO BE PARTNERS NOW!!! LOL!" It really was never cute. I am extremely disappointed.
Oct. 7, 2010, 6:47 p.m. CST
First, start off with the Blooms screwing. Enter marital based conflict.<br /> <br /> Then move them to their catering business. Enter Major Dad with assignment. Go to City 1. Meet up with Pretty Boy Dumbass and Hero Worshiping Nerd Boy.<br /> <br /> Screw up assignment. Come home. <br /> <br /> Get chewed out by Major Dad. Sulk and figure out what went wrong. Go to city 2. <br /> <br /> Solve problem in city 2 with pretty boy dumb ass and Hero Worshiping Closeted Goat lover.<br /> <br /> Go back to Catering business. Make Major Dad look dumb in as he packs up his briefcase and sulks. <br /> <br /> End with them screwing in bed at night after learning something new about their relationship and solving original marital conflict.<br /> <br /> FIN.<br /> <br /> IT'S THE SAME EPISODE WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT. CANCEL THIS TRIPE ALREADY. <br /> <br /> (Aside: The chick who plays the wife is REALLY HOT. That pilot episode really showed off her assets as an actress. ZING!)
Oct. 7, 2010, 6:48 p.m. CST
Oct. 7, 2010, 7:02 p.m. CST
by The McPoyle Clan
Logue is great, and they wasted no time in diving into the serial arc started in the pilot with Lindus. Too bad his involvement ended last night; guess he can go back to being Skylar's boss on Breaking Bad, or the baddy on various other series. Also trippy to discover that sister Steph is really Logue's twin sister in real life.
Oct. 7, 2010, 7:28 p.m. CST
At first i was digging it becasue I lived in Sand Dog then the story and acting grew on me. Terriers is a solid entertaining show that keeps getting better.
Oct. 7, 2010, 7:33 p.m. CST
It's easily the best thing on that list.
Oct. 7, 2010, 8:07 p.m. CST
as last season was awesome. Putting the geezers all on one team is a bad plan. So is casting no hot chicks and perhaps the most stereotypical ghetto chick in the world. I'd be super-proud to have that finger snapping welfare queen representin' if I was a sister.
Oct. 7, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST
What's with combining the reward and immunity challenges?<br> <br> At least it looks like a tribal shuffle next week -- that should put some life back into it. Otherwise it is pretty predictable: oldsters lose, again<br>
Oct. 7, 2010, 8:29 p.m. CST
cause tonights episode was brilliant. No cartoony plots and just the right amount of emotion and humour. It's funny how the episodes that take place after office hours are often the best. Best episode of the season so far
Oct. 7, 2010, 8:50 p.m. CST
Tonight's episode was pretty funny. Didn't like it at all two weeks ago, but it's starting to grow on me.
Oct. 7, 2010, 9:09 p.m. CST
a little over 1 million "households"<br>(thanks wiki!)<P> http://tinyurl.com/2edq2f
Oct. 7, 2010, 9:12 p.m. CST
She's cute and has an awesome tushy.
Oct. 7, 2010, 9:39 p.m. CST
YOU SPAMMING FUCKTARD!
Oct. 7, 2010, 9:49 p.m. CST
I really find indian culture to be rather disgusting and nothing is worse then an indian person speaking english, it's like fingernails on a chalkboard. and don't get me started on indian women, they all look like they have dirty upper lips
Oct. 7, 2010, 10:07 p.m. CST
not the scalping kind
Oct. 7, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST
Yes, Brenda's a cutie, but beyond her and maybe Yve (if age ain't an issue)....there's a real shortage hotties this season.
Oct. 7, 2010, 10:34 p.m. CST
Why aren't you covering the plummeting ratings and impending cancellation of THE EVENT? Tell you what I'll do a TIME Magazine cover story that says "THE EVENT IS THE BEST NEW DRAMA THIS YEAR (seriously)" THEN maybe you'll cover it since you care so much about the truth about television, right? Or maybe FRINGE GETS REALLY CLOSE TO GETTING CANCELLED TOO. Will that make you cover these because I consider them top news stories. BTW THE EVENT IS GETING CLOSE TO BEING CANCELLED.
Oct. 7, 2010, 10:36 p.m. CST
Dude, that was the best reply possible. :D <p> And herc should more work into these ratings posts. Just posting the numbers with a few blurbs isn't really enough. Also, a little integrity couldn't hurt.
Oct. 7, 2010, 10:41 p.m. CST
because they made the critical mistake of bringing in science fiction elements into the plot. when LOST did that, they suffered the same massive "brain bleed" as people who have a cerebral cortex left the show in droves because as we all know scifi is about the worst most cliche unimaginative sort of television there is right now, and when they brought in magic teleportation beams people fled wisely in droves. THE EVENT IS THE FUTURE OF TELEVISION, HERC SAYS SO (Seriously!)
Oct. 7, 2010, 10:42 p.m. CST
he can't have integrity or he would be forced to admit SUPERNATURAL has climbed in ratings while his beloved THE EVENT gets ready to be cancelled.
Oct. 8, 2010, 12:58 a.m. CST
Oct. 8, 2010, 1 a.m. CST
my bad, he has been around for a while. <p> carry on.
Oct. 8, 2010, 1:02 a.m. CST
All the advertisers put their ads on Hulu anyhow. They should start counting those numbers so shows aren't burdened by this outdated system that was hardly an accurate gauge of viewers since even way before the internet. How many of you even know someone with a neilsen box in their house? My friend got one a few years back and it was weird, they basically recruited him like something out of Men in Black or Repo Man.
Oct. 8, 2010, 1:08 a.m. CST
Seriously, Andy rocks. They must be setting up some special come-upance for Gabe. Fantastic episode. Michael Scott was almost in the way. I sense their gonna give him the same fate as David Brent falling into acting.
Oct. 8, 2010, 1:09 a.m. CST
Oct. 8, 2010, 1:33 a.m. CST
by andrew coleman
Sorry but some idiot said some bull shit show is better than 30 Rock... Please die at your prom because if you're older than 17 and like TBBT get fucking help. Undercovers writing is so bad it makes my head hurt. But same goes for pretty much every CBS comedy. Horrible... Fucking horrible. Anyone who claims those shows are funny especially funnier than Community or 30 Rock should never be listened to again. LOLA impressed me with its second episode. Pretty interesting stuff I'm sticking with that show.
Oct. 8, 2010, 2:07 a.m. CST
Because the crap they're broadcasting is unwatchable. Netflix, the NBA, NHL, NFL, and playoff baseball are infinitely more entertaining.
Oct. 8, 2010, 2:55 a.m. CST
I hope Steph sticks around for a few more episodes.
Oct. 8, 2010, 4:53 a.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
I haven't sampled the comedies (not into the sitcom format myself, usually), but among all the scripted hourlongs, I would say *maybe* Hawaii 5.0 is the only new series to check out. And, really, I feel tepid about it. Detroit 187 could also be worth checking out.<p><p>I enjoy Chase for what it is, and it's enjoyable so long as you don't take it seriously. But its challenged ratings make me wonder if Monday night is the right timeslot for it -- maybe it would do better on Friday nights, perhaps following The Good Guys (which is also shot in Dallas).<p><p>But another factor for its disappointing ratings could be the unfounded "white people won't watch BLANK people" argument: maybe the average American broadcast network TV viewer is not interested in watching shows set in Texas, featuring Texan characters. (Which would explain also the terrible ratings for Lone Star and The Good Guys.) Maybe Americans are sick of that state. (Which one might find odd as it looks like the Republicans are poised to take over Congress next month.)<p><p>On the other hand, Detroit 187 appears to be doing well in the ratings. And it's one of the few new non-LA-set dramas this season that is actually set where it is shot (Hawaii 5.0 and The Good Guys would be other examples).
Oct. 8, 2010, 5:43 a.m. CST
wanted to like them both. <p> and didn't like either of them after 1 episode. might check back in a few months and see if they have gotten better. <p> hawaii 5.0 felt so far removed from the source material, the name was about the only thing it shared with the original. <p> detroit 187, hmm, felt uninspired and empty. maybe it gets better, but the pilot didn't give you 1 character to like or connect with. michael imperioli seemed to have regressed as an actor in the pilot too.
Oct. 8, 2010, 8:18 a.m. CST
You missed what I was saying - people tuned in when it was just THE EVENT and nobody knew - that's episode 1. Episode 1 ended with a magical teleporter beam moving the plane. the result? over 20 percent of the audience said "oh. it's one of THOSE." These people sniffed the air, sniffed again, smelled shit, and then moved on, because it went from being THE EVENT possibly meaning some kind of plot or conspiracy or something to wacky alien sci-fi teleporters. And a good quarter of the viewers said "ummmmmm no this is stupid" and then turned off the tv. wisely. because out in the grown up world we don't have time to waste on sci fi bull plop.
Oct. 8, 2010, 8:19 a.m. CST
Herc says THE EVENT IS THE FUTURE OF TELEVISION! SERIOUSLY!
Oct. 8, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST
by Jim Jam Bongs
Just football players, amateur ballroom dancers, and Grace Park in a bikini. :^[
Oct. 8, 2010, 8:56 a.m. CST
But yet Outsourced is still drawing more viewers than good taste should permit. No blacks, Hispanics or Texans, but making fun of Indians is fair game? This is why I drink.
Oct. 8, 2010, 8:56 a.m. CST
by Jim Jam Bongs
Right in the hometown of AICN: Austin. So that's four 1-hour shows set in Texas that have done terribly in the ratings.
Oct. 8, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST
commercials for baby wipes and dating services for people looking for someone who looks just like them
Oct. 8, 2010, 10:11 a.m. CST
The NY Post says yes: http://bit.ly/dcNDQw
Oct. 8, 2010, 10:44 a.m. CST
I can say that because I'm black
Oct. 8, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST
Crow3711 got it right, the 3rd hot chick is the hot daughter who's really 20-something.
Oct. 8, 2010, 11:18 a.m. CST
by The Garbage Man
The sci-fi elements aren't what is driving The Event's audience away. The true culprit is that the show is a lame rehash of other, better shows. <p>Hence the 24% drop the pilot to episode 2 and another 21% drop from episode 2 to episode 3. <p>Funny, though, that Herc delights in pointing out other shows that decline less than 20% week to week but is awfully shy about The Event's even greater drops.
Oct. 8, 2010, 11:55 a.m. CST
cause these shows suck hard.(and I'm including hawaii 5.0 on the list.)i guess it's only sons of anarchy, family guy and the cleveland show for me.ironically, all fox series.I'm mostly excited about Walking Dead's debut. MMMMM ZOMBIES!!
Oct. 8, 2010, 12:26 p.m. CST
Thanks! So by that explanation, anything in the "three million or less households" is considered poor? That explains why everyone creams themselves when 20 million people watch crap like the season finale of American Idol. I'm no TV executive, but if dramas do cost as much as everyone says (2-3 mil per episode), that's pretty cheap as it works out to a dollar or less per household ... assume there's more than one person living there, that means it might only cost CBS about 50 cents or less to draw in each viewer of NCIS. That's a pretty cheap investment in customer loyalty.
Oct. 8, 2010, 12:29 p.m. CST
I had hoped it would be good. It had a nice premise and good looking actors but the writing is awful. It feels like a 10th grade girl is writing the scripts. Oh well. I have a feeling that there will be record cancellations this seasons. I bet ABC wished they had another season of Lost. You know it's bad when I watch more shows on the CW than on NBC.
Oct. 8, 2010, 1:07 p.m. CST
Modern Family 4.6 followed by Cougar Town with 3.0. <P>Any other 1/2 hour show drop that much from the first half of the hour?
Oct. 8, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST
the other part is the Share. Ratings are the percentage watching based on the total number of TV households. Share is the percentage watching based on the number of households who were watching TV at that time. Basically, the advertisers want to know how many of all potential viewers are watching a specific show (rating) as well as how many who watched TV at that time chose said show (Share).<p>I think the networks like to gamble. One show is not performing as well as they would want it to so they get rid of it and replace it with something they hope will perform better. Even if a show is profitable, they may dump it if they think they have something else that will be more profitable. Or, more likely, they see the other guy with a very profitable show, so they dump whatever they have that is working the least well for a carbon-copy rip-off of the most recent fad.
Oct. 8, 2010, 1:20 p.m. CST
Shit My Dad Says gets maybe 2.4, 2.5 this week. I watched the first episode, thought it was absolutely awful. However, I was compelled to watch the second episode to see if it was a fluke or if the show truly was that bad. The second episode confirmed for me that, while I don't see how it could get any worse, I don't see it ever getting any better. Didn't watch the third episode and I bet I wasn't the only one. I expect another significant drop.
Oct. 8, 2010, 2:09 p.m. CST
Can you confirm: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/104509564.html ?
Oct. 8, 2010, 2:21 p.m. CST
by Lost Skeleton
finds Undercovers extremely boring. By the way, you know how bad television is...I haven't watched a single scripted program in weeks with the exception of what is on HBO and I don't miss any of it. I do like Fringe
Oct. 8, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST
just out of curiosity, what do repeats of L&O SVU get ratings wise, on say a Thursday night in primetime on the USA Network. I mean if we're going to get the numbers here for things like "Dude What Would Happen" and "College Football" why not just take it all the way and show all cable programming numbers, from original shows, to repeats of network drama's.
Oct. 8, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST
i go back to something i said on a different talkback; what's the problem with making a six-episode season? if it proves popular, go back and make six (or eight or twelve) more for the next season. it works just fine as a programming move in countries outside of the USA (there isn't a scripted show made in the UK, for example, that has more than 8 episodes in one season) At least then the audience can get a sense of closure/satisfaction when it's cancelled/comes to a natural close, rather than this sudden death after one or two episodes (what the hell is that?) or this vague "hiatus" they've put a show like "Outlaws" on.
Oct. 8, 2010, 5:04 p.m. CST
Oct. 8, 2010, 10:34 p.m. CST
"Yo, you didn't use the babywipes? Get your ass over here so I can smack you down." Howard loves to put the beatdown on his bitches. What a man.
Oct. 8, 2010, 11:40 p.m. CST
That means the audience isn't switching channels - they're switching the TV off entirely. I know I only watch a handful of shows, and most of those I download the torrents an hour or so later. With DVRs in more and more homes, and torrents for every show widely available, the ad revenue system of network TV just isn't a viable business model anymore.
Oct. 8, 2010, 11:56 p.m. CST
you're on aintitcool and your complaining about sci fi elements on a tv show? what the hell are you doing on here? .. there ate a lot of reasons why "The Event" is pretty lackluster ... it has nothing to do with Sci Fi. It has to do with terrible writing, lack of empathy for the character, ridiculously cliche things like the random truck hitting the police car and the kid escaping.. dumb, lazy writing..
Oct. 9, 2010, 2:15 a.m. CST
No Ordinary Family ratings will be interesting to watch.<P> <P> It could get very old very quickly but has had decent pacing so far and not bad story lines. Julie looks a lot fitter than in Dexter as well.<P> <P> One thing is certain---its a million times more entertaining than Smallville going through its desperate last rites.
Oct. 9, 2010, 4:48 a.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
I've wondered about this. What if the so-called event in that series had been implied to strongly be of a religious nature (i.e. The Rapture)? I myself don't care for religion, but I've wondered if a lot people initially tuned into the series hoping/expecting for a plot point like this.
Oct. 9, 2010, 8:32 a.m. CST
....SAY because you are USUALLY WRONG!! and you use way too many exclamation points, dude. Just to be fair, large numbers do not a great series make.
Oct. 9, 2010, 9 a.m. CST
by The McPoyle Clan
Did Herc break embargo too early, or too explicitly? 'cuz I've seen other bits about the new season, if not quite as spoilerish.
Oct. 9, 2010, 1:04 p.m. CST
and is in utter cancellation territory. But remember THE EVENT IS THE FUTURE OF TELEVISION (SERIOUSLY!) - HERC SAYS SO! You know what would be a real kick in the pants? Could someone on here do a comparison on how THE EVENT is doing compared with THE JAY LENO SHOW? Would reruns of THE JAY LENO SHOW do better than THE EVENT is doing? SAY IT'S SO !
Oct. 9, 2010, 1:04 p.m. CST
(seriously!) - Herc says so!
Oct. 9, 2010, 1:06 p.m. CST
notice how the more sci fi THE EVENT gets with magical teleportation beams, space aliens etc the lower the ratings get? And how explaining parallel dimensions has led to the impending cancellation of FRINGE? And how not one Fuller series has been a success because they all venture into fantasy/sci fi territory? NOBODY WANTS TO WATCH SCI FI! TRUE BLOOD is a soap opera which INCIDENTALLY features those elements. Shows ABOUT those elements disappear quick and deservedly so. Nobody wants to see your childish sci fi fantasy.
Oct. 9, 2010, 1:29 p.m. CST
It matters whether its well written:<P> <P> Unfotunately too much sci-fi/fantasy is introduced as a maguffin to make things work --Lost was criminal in this respect.<P> <P> When sci-fi is used as a back drop to enable interesting and provocative TV it works as well as if not better than any other type of drama.<P> <P> Evidence : Firefly:The Outer Limits: Dr Who: The Twilight Zone: Stargate SG-1: Babylon 5: Early X-Files: Star Trek TNG: Star Trek TOS: Battlestar Galactica (Last Incarnation)
Oct. 9, 2010, 1:37 p.m. CST
And here's sci-fi as a maguffin to end a season of the Colby's - the Dynasty spin off about the trials and tribulations of rich folk -- what a way to end a Soap Opera:<P> <P> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju8YH6ewoqQ
Oct. 9, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST
thats why it sucks and at the same time is somewhat watchable. If you dont believe it is a rip off just watch the current preview showing the people on the crashing plane then waking up... Looks pretty familiar doesnt it. These new shows are not new, they are uninspired lazy clones.
Oct. 9, 2010, 4:40 p.m. CST
are based on such a small percentage of actual households-like 24,000 or something ridiculous like that.you would think withy modern technology thay can get an actual count at this point.and show with minority leads due worse because there are nonielsen boxes in minority households.it's all bs anyway.
Oct. 10, 2010, 1:58 a.m. CST
Unless you have a Nielsen box in your house and watch it. Nothing else that you do will actually matter.
Oct. 10, 2010, 2:03 a.m. CST
There was a great post in one of these rating TB's earlier by this guy Stefan, and he did a great job explaining why the Nielsen ratings system is here to stay, why the live broadcast matters most etc. etc.
Oct. 10, 2010, 4:05 a.m. CST
But then again, it DOES show that hot wife getting undressed in every episode, so that COULD explain why I'm a fan.<p>...And she IS seriously HOT!
Oct. 10, 2010, 12:58 p.m. CST
need to know how fringe and smallville and supernatural are doing
Oct. 10, 2010, 2:15 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Oct. 10, 2010, 2:19 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Friday hour by hour:<p><p> 8 p.m.<p><p> NBC: "Dateline: NBC" (6.49million viewers, 4.4/9 households)<p> CBS: "Medium" (6.0 million, 3.8/7)<p> ABC: "Modern Family" rerun (3.88 million, 2.5/5)/"The Middle" rerun (3.0 million, 2.0/4)<p> FOX: "House" rerun (2.97 million, 1.8/3)<p> The CW: "Smallville" (2.4 million, 1.4/3)<p> <p> 18-49 leader: "Dateline: NBC" (1.5) <p><p> 9 p.m. <p><p> CBS: "CSI: NY" (9.9 million, 6.1/11)<p> NBC: "Dateline: NBC" (6.6 million, 4.5/8)<p> ABC: "No Ordinary Family" rerun (3.0 million, 1.9/4)<p> FOX: "The Good Guys" (2.4 million, 1.6/3)<p> The CW: "Supernatural" (2.3 million, 1.5/3)<p> <p> 18-49 leader: "CSI: NY" (1.9) <p><p> 10 p.m.<p><p> CBS: "Blue Bloods" (11.1 million, 6.8/13)<p> ABC: "20/20" (5.4 million, 3.6/7)<p> NBC: "Outlaw" (4.2 million, 2.9/6)<p><p> 18-49 leader: "Blue Bloods" (1.8) <p><p> Ratings information includes live and same-day DVR viewing. All numbers are preliminary and subject to change. Source: The Nielsen Company.
Oct. 11, 2010, 10:24 a.m. CST
had a good, funny episode on friday featuring Danny Trejo ("Machete") ... Danny Trejo, for God's sake, giving a funny piss-taking performance .... and there wasn't one mention that he was in it in any of the ads that I saw. What the hell! You've got this B-Movie cult icon guesting on your quirky comedy cop show and you don't bother to mention it .... say what you want about "Chuck", but those guys have milked the name/face recognition of their guest stars for all it's worth. i haven't been to the official Good Guys website (is there one?) but it seems to be a show tailor-made for some out of the box marketing (the 'stache, the car, the cheesy 80s cop-show vibe); hell, why don't they make the "Savage and Stark" TV movie and put snippets of it on You Tube?? Wouldn't that be the obvious thing? And FOX - if you read this and steal that idea from me, can I be in it?? I can play a tough as nails police captain ("you're too close to this, Stark! You're off the case!!")
Oct. 11, 2010, 10:29 a.m. CST
and it's pretty good, and it looks like they have at least made a cover for a VHS tape of the fictional "Savage and Stark" TV movie ... but I can't recognise who the actors are... I might need to get a life.
Oct. 12, 2010, 12:41 p.m. CST
that matter, for now. One reason for that: Advertising. If you watch a show on DVR, you don't count because you are fast forwarding through the commercials. If you watch it on Hulu, there are far fewer advertisements and your watching it matters less. If you are downloading it, you don't matter because you are not watching commercials. The total viewership does not matter at all as far as ratings and advertisers are concerned. What matters for them is how many people are watching 2.5 to 3 minutes of advertisements for every 8 minutes of programming. That is how networks finance their shows. Community is a golden example of this. They pull extremely low ratings for a network show. I have a feeling that is because most of their viewers would rather watch it on Hulu, or the following evening on DVR than Thursdays in an ever changing time slot. But Community is also an example of the changing television model. The DVD's sold extremely well. People are probably downloading via iTunes quite a bit. NBC can put together its own figures of how well it is doing on Hulu, etc. The show is probably making quite a bit of money. Nielsen ratings really do suck as a way of monitoring how many people watch a show. But they are a great way of telling advertisers, "Hey, pay us a lot of money and you can have your commercial appear on this extremely popular program." This is why ratings don't include Hulu, DVR stats, etc.