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Sir Michael Caine Explains The Very End Of INCEPTION!!
Merrick again...
Because the filmtwats site linked below is down for the moment, I'll succinctly encapsulate Caine's comments about INCEPTIONS's final sequence/shot for those who don't wanna wade through the BBC interview.
HIGHLIGHT BELOW TO REVEAL INVISOTEXT!
Original article follows.
Merrick here...
Sir Michael Caine sat down for a lengthy interview with BBC's Chris Moyles for a discussion which turned towards INCEPTION. In their talk about the film, Caine reveals the true meaning of the picture's enigmatic final shot.
You can find this around 1:45 into the interview (located HERE). Nudge and goose that little scrollbar at the bottom of the player to get there.
For a more precise summation of Caine's revelation, you can jump to the filmtwats article which inspired our posting.
If you enjoy the mystery behind INCEPTION's ambiguous closure, you may wanna give this one a miss to preserve the overall experience. As for me...presuming Caine's long association with Nolan has made him privy to this level of clarity insight, which it almost certainly did...I was right!
Sir Michael's autobiography...THE ELEPHANT TO HOLLYWOOD...hits stores in a few weeks, but is already up for pre-order HERE
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Instead of first!
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Fuck him up his stoopid ass
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When there's so many other twats on here. How do we know Vader was banned though, did Beaks say something? Or did D.Vader contact someone here to spread the word?
I'm gonna read the Inception article now. -
I always assumed it was that. I think after digesting the movie that it's lack of complexity and "imagination" helped encourage me not to see it again in theaters. Which sucks because I'm sure it was awesome in IMAX. Anyway, UNBAN D. VADER!
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...you would fail, but you would be free to try.
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because that's what everyone is really confused about, the reasoning behind that makes the end of Inception look like an According to Jim episode.
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D.Vader was one of the most valuable Talkbackers on this site. He had been here a long time, and he always had something SMART and THOUGHTFUL to contribute to a conversation. Even when he disagreed with you, he did so respectfully, therefore commanding the same respect from you.
This place is overrun with trolls and spammers, but D.Vader gets the boot for merely questioning Beaks' arbitrary banning policy? Pardon my French, but what a load of shit. Vader deserved better than that.
Goodbye for now, Vader. You are a wise Talkbacker, a helluva Pedalbacker, and a loyal friend. I hope you will be back soon.
Beaks, if you have any appreciation for fairness, you will reinstate D.Vader. I call on all of you who laughed or argue with Vades over the years to join me in imploring Beaks to undo his grave error. It is time to fix this, sir. -
more so than Beaks
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...ha!
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to Beaks' articles. Merrick's a good dude and we already destroyed one of his talkbacks in the last 24 hours.
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Thank you sir! I have no idea why they are continuing to post stories on here, the site is going to grind to a halt til they re-instate Vader. Just wait til Beaks actually posts another story, hell is going to be unleashed Gladiator style.
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Either: Mission accomplished, and he's back in the real world with his kids on US soil. Otherwise: The whole movie up to that point is him thinking he's in the real world, and his wife committed suicide. She did not, but escaped the dream world. He's still trapped in it. It's either A or B.
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I can't wait to see him as Perry White if Nolan does supes. All I'm saying is people with a brain don't need an explanation.
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As for this, it doesn't change anything. Michael Caine saying he isn't in any of the dreams doesn't mean anything. If the ending is possibly a dream it means that the entire movie was a dream, and since Caine was in parts of the movie, he was in a dream.
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He deleted my post when I pointed out that AICN obits need to be more consistent in that we have obits for people no one knows about, yet we never got an obit for Ed McMahon, Roy Disney, John Quade, or Gloria Stuart. You may not know the name Quade, but once you see the face you'll go oh yeah.
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where he said "IT'S REAL LIFE"
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Wowwwwwwwwwww!!!Recently, I came across a hot dating site-----Black White Flirts.co-m----- There are many sassy ladies and handsome rich guys seeking fun, friendship, love ,marriage and even more!!!!! Maybe you wanna check out or tell your friends.
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...i was never so sure of anything in my life
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howabout also banning, The Choppah, Media Messiah, Emerald Boy, Dickblood, Asimov Lives that'll do for starters. I quite like Grammaton Cleric Binks though.....the name intriques me.
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is indeed booted.
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And about as undeserving of the banhammer as anyone.
LET THE CLERIC SPEAK! -
how come nobody pays any attention to what is written on the blackboard when we first meet Michael Caine's character? That is always a clue in any Nolan film. Check out Memento for this kind of stuff.
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Air Jordans?
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Don't ban me! I'm just saying!
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I want to know how this site can justify booting DVader (RPLocke, if booted, has been asking for it for a long time - just like the Cohppah (who has several accts on here anyway), but how can you justify banning anyone and not ban the one who TRULY deserves it: HURRY UP AND BAN THIS LILYfuckingGREEN AND ANY OF THE OTHER DISEASED WHORES THAT KEEP POPPING UP IN THE TB'S WITH THEIR SMELLY PUSSY SPAM!!!!!!! I mean come the fuck on, AICN, if you're going to use the banhammer use it against those lowlife spamming fucks PLEASE!
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If so, please post.
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They are the only reason most of us come here, you bunch of numbnuts!
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What WAS written on the blackboard? It's been a while since I saw it and I honestly don't remember.
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Hey everyone, sorry for the lack of Filmtwats website. within a few minutes of Merrick posting the article (God bless ya btw) our hosting provider suspended our site due to excessive bandwidth usage or some rubbish. Sorry folks - working on a fix!
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Sep 29, 2010 9:56:11 AM CDT
D.Vader could explain the end if Inception BUT NOW HE CANT
by vic twenty
Until he is reinstated.
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Um, I don't come here to read your silly little comments proclaiming that everything sucks. I come here to read movie reviews and hear about upcoming movies that I'm interested in. And could care less that some guy with too much time on his hands got banned.
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sir michael caine explains the very end of dvader"...well there was this muppet called beaks... He got all menstrual and started throwin his weight around. He's a big man but he's out of shape - for me it's a full time job..""but im getting off the point... Anyway beaks banned dvader - banned him. HE WAS ONLY MEANT TO BLOW THE BLOODY DOORS OFF!""posts sir, fousands of em, all gone. Will i forget dvader? Nevah."
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I will not listen to this interview, because I'm afraid Sir Michael will simply tell me that it was all due to Midichlorians.
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i was riding the subway one night and i was a littel tipsy. two guys came up and tried to rob me and then out of nowhere a man came in and force choked them. i was a little distraught and as he lifted me up from the bench, I asked him WHO ARE YOU?as he walked out through the doorway, he turned around and said A FRIEND. D.Vader has been a companion ever since.
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awesome cobes!
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still movie of the year for me. and on to even more serious matters Beaks have your movie marathon of Hounddog, The Accused, Deliverance, Irreversible, and finish with the Serbian Film, then you will be a happy man again and then reinstate D Vader. Give it a go, I am positive it will work
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I was working for this bandleader and i was trying out for this part in a film, a role that would make me a star. But the bandleader wouldnt let me outta my contract. I asked D.Vader for his help and he said he would make him an offer he couldnt refuse. two days later, I am rid of that worthless contract and a big movie star.
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wrong about the banning of D Vader.
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..since Nolan didn't actually SHOW the top falling over, it's still not one or the other. If Nolan believes he is awake, that's great, but he didn't show it. Michael Caine, as great as he is, doesn't bring any new insight here.
Oh, and D. Vader is the tops. I've noticed a few of his posts over at Slashfilm these days. Considering the type of people that normally post in these Talkbacks, I can't really fathom why HE was banned. -
...got my cat out of a tree once. True dat.
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is an attack on us all.
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on the D.Vader banning.
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What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down -
Hilarious!
"Can he explain the very end of D. Vader?" -
Sep 29, 2010 10:16:14 AM CDT
stand fast..do not post in beaks thread until D.Vader is back
by six demon bag
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I had a serious problem with 3 of my classmates and their incessant bullying. Soon taunts and the occaissional ear-flicking were not enought. The escalation resulted in a scar I carry on my face to this day. Then, one night, as I was enjoying a quiet swim in the community pool, the bullies attempted to drown me. Then, as the world was getting blurry around the edges, the bullies were gone and I was lifted from the water by invisible hands. As I looked around and saw the bullies lying in a heap on the floor, I asked my savior what had happened. D. Vader replied: "I had to force choke some bitches. They had given in to the dark side." D.Vader....my hero.
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put Ben Affleck back on the space ship and told him to take care of his little girl? Then D.Vader blew up himself along with the asteroid, thus saving all of humanity.Will I forget D.Vader? NE-VAHH!
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D.Vader would never had done that.Will i forget D.Vader? NE-VAHH!
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apparently its going to explore the corruption behind AICN, Mat Damon is in talks to play D.Vader, not sure who he wants to play Beaks though. Any suggestions?
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Ya know who I talked with all the time? D.Vader
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Since when did AICN decide it was The Man? Drunk with power, are you, Beaks? (have him read this please) Please consider whatever question it was asked by D.Vader that got him banned to be asked by me. Isn't the right to express your opinions and views what TALKBACK means?
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one summer he was slumming as a sheriff of a tourist town and a shark started killing swimmers in the oceans..needless to say, D.Vader didnt let that shit stand. He hired a captain and took the boat out and hunted the pussy ass shark mercilessly until they finally blew it up. the captain of the boast didnt make it though.
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wait, wait, Bana = ban hammerCONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It IS a Stone movie RightousBrother!
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Sgt Peppers.
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her name was sarah connorwill i ever forget D.Vader? NEV-AHH!!
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D.Vader would be proud of you.
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and then force choked the HELL out of a bastard spammer named youdong. He then set up a blind date between myself and lilygreen. She was fugly. And smelled faintly of bologna.
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D.Vader=badthis makes fucking sense
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and aids. but not cancer. that was barry manilow
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ya know who would be proud of you?D.Vader.
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When I was a very young boy, the area I grew up in was pretty hopeless. The refinery on the outskirts of town had shut down when the economy went into the tank.
I was an orphan and spent most of my time digging tunnels and holes and practicing with the boomerang I found on my 3rd birthday. I couldn’t yet speak, and this was the only enjoyment I really got out of life.
Things got considerably worse when a gang of hooligans rolled into town and tried to take the old refinery from the last remaining folks still there. Every night they raided, like an army of angry ants, it never stopped.
Then one day a stranger rolled into town with tales of a tanker truck that could transport us all to safety (and our fuel besides). I remember him saying “If you want to get out of here, you talk to me.”
That man was D.Vader, and not only did he make good on his promise, to save us, but he also took out the leader of the raiding party, Lord Humungus Ass Beaks.
I am now Leader of the great Western tribe (well, ombudsman) and I owe it all to D.Vader.
May he come back soon. -
a temporarily dead D.Vader is 1,000,000,000,000 more of a man than you boy.
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D.Vader told me I didn't have to do anything with a flute I didn't want to. D.Vader....my soul and tee-hiney thank you.
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in twenty years time as an annoying young kid who shouts "yippee" and makes friends with a gungan. Everyone hates them.
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Sep 29, 2010 10:37:16 AM CDT
D.Vader went back for christopher walken in DEER HUNTER
by six demon bag
NEV-AHH forget!!
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you wish. of course if all this d.vader spamming continues the mods could simply delete every post d.vader ever made. it would be like he never existed.
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Thats Why D.Vader was banned..because he had the evidence
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The Oracle foretold of The One.The One who would free humanity from the fate of being bio-batteries for the machines that ruled the world.Who was The One you ask?D.VaderWill I forget D.Vader? NE-VAHH!
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dressed as Summer Finn.
A more thoughtful person does not exist. Free Vader. -
...like a pig, D.Vader shot the hillbilly rapist with a bow and arrow.
Weird that lostboytexass would now turn on D. like this...maybe he liked squealing? -
Sep 29, 2010 10:42:26 AM CDT
D.Vader returned the crystal shard during the Great Conjunction
by six demon bag
Will I forget? NEV-AHH!!
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permaban by ip all these losers and possibly even shutting down new user activation on the site for a month so they cant come back. a month without AICN would be punishment enough
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30 stories high Breathing fire He stands in the sky! D.Vader! D.Vader!
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And Beaks has the audacity to ban him? Fuck that.
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He was that benevolent. D.Vader would have just gone about nurturing a starving spider or fucking the numerous hot women that so wanted that deep dicking.
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lostboytexass? Or is it a code for Lost Boy Takes (it up the) Ass?
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Fuck sakes... Movies and cool shit, no, let's get some cut-rate prices on Air Jordans!!!!!!!!!!!
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Shut up.
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[Spoilers] The audience never actually sees the top fall, so this is Sir Caine's own interpretation - which, according to Nolan - was the whole point of the ending: For viewers to make up their own minds. I really like that, and I actually don't agree with him. I interpret it as we never know if this life we live is real or a dream... etc. So, I don't think the top stopped, and furthermore, I don't think Leo's character cared if it did or not anymore, which says a lot in and of itself.
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..slipped on some jizz that dripped out of his ass and fell ass backward into a situation he knows nothing about.Look around you fuck wit. People who barely knew Vades can see the injustice, yet you refuse to recognize it. Wait, Wait....You're Mel Gibson's dad right. This and the Holocaust never happened.
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Whot? It just fell ovah! Sey, the prollem wos, Nolan cut the sho' befowah it fell, but lissen, Ah wos theah, and that top did foll. End of story. Olso, to add a new wrinkle to the Prestige, Christian Bale isn't actually twins, or Oi would know.
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true story.
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Sep 29, 2010 10:49:28 AM CDT
lostboytexass, you are angry because you dont understand these f
by vic twenty
You saw D.Vader next door, talking to your son. There was something about him though. When you went to him in the rain and professed your feelings for him, kissing him gently, he kindly spurned you.
For that, you still feel angry. And that is ok. But if you let you gay love of D.Vader turn to hate, those emotions can destroy you. -
Sep 29, 2010 10:49:39 AM CDT
FACT IS, CHOPPAH AND RPLOCKE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN BANNED
by bringingsexyback
either. I mean come on. It takes a lot of character to stand out from the crowd and they managed to do so in their own entertaining ways. Are they annoying? Of course, that's part of the spectrum of character around here. It would be boring if TBers didn't have unique personalities to interact with. What else has this place got to offer? Articles on the merits of home invasion movies? Give me a fucking break.
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*Him* meaning Sir Caine, not Christopher Nolan.
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D.Vader helped him out of his armor an personally applied talcum powder.
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He didn't know it would lead to 2 Girls 1 Cup, but by then the genie was out of the bottle.
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Sep 29, 2010 10:52:17 AM CDT
d.vader, rplocke and choppah banned all in the one day
by lostboytexass
my cock has never been harder!
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And I won't without hand sanitizer.
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You are lost NO LONGER!
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This depresses me, she's so fine, and he.....is shit!
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Beaks....there is that toothpick you were looking for.
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no-one should be fucking banned on here. We can all be twats at the best of times. However we should be free to express ourselves in any way we want. Harry should give Beaks a serious dressing down over this, or.....we should all be either complaining to Harry en masse via his email, or fucking spamming Beaks. I mean we can email him directly from here. Who the fuck does Beaks think he his? He's almost as bad as the sanctimonious uber-ass lickers on Mark Millars boards. And they really are twats.
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fuck around in obit postings you twat.
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Yeah, I'm one of the many who have trashed Lockes in the past, but the guy is tenacious and can take a punch.and at times he does contrubute to the threads like it or not, he didnt comprimise his tastes just to be liked by the fellow talkbackers. Nor should anyone else.Choppah had his moments, but I saw his banning a mile away..almost too predictable.
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...stoop to these juvenile (yet hilarious) put downs I am slaying lostboy with..?....D.Vader
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Or just a contrarian douchebag?
Oh wait, same thing. -
as everyone else thinks your a cunt
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Now he's bug squash. See ya old friend-
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a weak one at that. We lose CHOPPAH and this is what we are left with. Nice Beaks. You can't do anything right can ya?
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if you are gonna take on the world...you could at least do it with some style."You're a cunt."Good one.Speaking of "good ones" D.Vader was a good guy.
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and then told me, "Kid, there are some cookies downstairs on the kitchen table. Have one, and you'll be right as rain."
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Your brown nosing will get you nowhere with Beaks.
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Vader's generosity knows no bounds.
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Sep 29, 2010 11:12:06 AM CDT
You know who would find in in his heart to forgive lostboytexass
by righteousbrother
D.Vader -
he likes the smell........and the taste.
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i have no idea
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now I don't have to bother with the rest of the movie
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Hell, what was I thinking?
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Because as he has demonstrated countless times in his reviews and Top Films lists, the quickest way to Beaks' cinematic heart is through rape. Just don't tell him that if you value your profile.
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it was a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream
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oh its true
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because D.Vader blew it out of the goddam airlock.
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If I had a BanhammerI'd Banhammer in the morningI'd Banhammer in the eveningAll over this TalkBackI'd Banhammer out D.VaderI'd Banhammer out RPLockeI'd Banhammer out of spite between me and my TBersAll over this TalkbackIf I had a Bell-endI'd beat it in the morningI'd beat it in the eveningAll over this TalkBackI'd beat out D.VaderI'd beat off on RPLockeI'd beat it out of spite between me and my TBersAll over this TalkBackIf I had a soulI'd sell it in the morningI'd sell it in the eveningAll over this TalkBackI'd sell out D.VaderI'd suck off RPLockeI'd sell it out of spite between me and my TBersAll over this TalkBackWell I've got a BanhammerAnd I've got a Bell-endAnd I've got a soul to sellAll over this TalkBackIt's the Banhammer of HypocrisyIt's the Bell-end of of a ManchildIt's a soul full of spite between me and my TBersAll over this TalkBack
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Sep 29, 2010 11:21:34 AM CDT
Harry Where Is Your Inception Review?
by harrywhereisyourinceptionreview
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i think its quite hilarious that we want to reinstate dvade here and were voicin our opinion by posting a lot about it in the tbs, which basically helpin aicn get more hits... so basically everyone is helpin aicn stay true to themselves meanin more money in their pockets... aicn doesnt care about dvade and obviously none of us do either or we would find and actually use alternative sites.... so in short, quit bitching about dvade because its mental masturbation
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he did a great job in Lovely Bones and I hate to typecast but was an obvious choice
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because i find it dumb that aicn is profitting from us during this situation?
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Vic Twenty great post. Ombudsman indeed... hahahaha!
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Sep 29, 2010 11:34:37 AM CDT
Caine confirms Depp and Hoffman casting rumors, too, though
by abcdefz7
I mean, we don't know for sure that those things aren't true, but I think Caine sometimes just kind of... goes off....
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BSB, you just watch yourself out there in the big wide tb world. If they can take Dvader they can take any of us and I'd hate to lose you too..
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For calling me a racist. I love you people.
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D.Vader was my other login.
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Whatever a director's intent, a film has to be viewed in terms of what is on the screen. The fact is, and this cannot be disputed, the top does not fall during the movie. Whether Nolan believes the top falls is irrelevant, because he chose not to show this. I suspect Nolan may be familiar with quantum physics. Schrodinger's cat was a thought experiment that posited the following-A cat is in a box. There is poison in the box. Either the cat ate the poison, in which case it died, or it did not eat the poison, in which case the cat is alive. The mind blowing thing about the thought experiment is that until you open the box, the results of the experiment do not come into being. Until you open the box, and look at the cat, he is neither dead nor alive. HE IS BOTH. The experiment describes in laypersons terms a rule of quantum physics called the uncertainty principle. We can not know the location of a particle at any point in time. We can only figure out the probability that a particle will be in any place at a given time. Only once we run the experiment, and actually SEE the particle, can we tell for sure where it is. And, it is the experiment itself that causes the particle to be where it is. Prior to the experiment, the particle actually is nowhere, and everywhere. Applying this to the film, the top neither falls nor stays spinning, because the screen goes black before we see what happens. This is what I love about the movie. THERE IS NO ANSWER. It just isn't there. Unless Nolan does a director's cut that shows the top falling, it just doesn't fall. Nor does it remain spinning. Both possibilities are fully real until we see different.
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a group that is willing to actually do somethin about all of our complaints like findin the best alternative site to go to or just create a blog ourselves... but na, we will just keep comin here, where the staff will continue to shit on us...
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you never see the spinning top fall or not in the movie, so it could still be a dream. But Nolan is telling us it doesn't matter if he is in a dream or not, he finally gets to see his kids faces again either way.
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if so i dont care about you... now if youre lowersforeheadtranny/deadflagblues then bait away
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Thanks pal - would hate to lose you or any of the PBers. I enjoy freewheeling it here but always am I cognizant of not crossing the line. I think nearly all of us are. We instinctively know where not to go because we're decent people first and foremost. Sure, we get edgy. That's the beauty of free speech and that's something HARRY embraces.
Too bad Beaks doesn't share Harry's philosophy.
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all his comments still exist. and hows any of that related to inception? oh merrick right, please continue.
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Harry Brown was amazing. I love Caine, particularly his performance in Hannah and Her Sisters, and he elevates what might have been a Charles Bronson level revenge thriller to something much more powerful. I think it is great comparing Harry Brown with Clint's Gran Torino. They are basically the same movie, except instead of taking the high road and giving his life, Caine goes completely badass and wastes the baddies. The scene where he shoots the gun dealer, and finds him lying in a pile of pot, is fantastic. Caine says, "You know what you did wrong? You failed to maintain your weapon." Awesome.
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abcdef, yeah you can imagine Nolan entrusting Caine with secret information and making him swear not to tell. "Nevah" replies Caine, fixing Nolan with his most loyal stare.
Two days later Caines blabbing all to everyone in earshot. The man's a fucking leaky sieve of sensitive information. Fish wives have more discretion than him. I wouldn't be suprised if the motherfucker turned out to be Jettl93. -
One of my favorite things about AiCN is they're not Inceptards and have pretty much kept their site free of the expositionfest. Top falls or not, I left before the end. Did they ever even put the idea in the one-dimensional young business owner character? Cuz goodness, I was really on the edge of my seat over that whole thing...
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BSB, holy shit dude you talk some serious wisdom when you're not all caps locking it!
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Serious wisdom gets me winded - Capslocking much easier!
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The spinning top is NOT Leo's totem.
His children are.
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Diox, idiots? I think you need to put up a link to an existing Dvader comment or apologize.
Sorry to say he DID get banned. -
When leo visited Yusufs basement he asked to try out the new sleep potion, the strongest ever made. From there on out it was all a dream.
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"When you ban a man, you take away all he's posted, and all he's ever gonna post."
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D.Vaders comments have been completely removed from the site. Bliss!
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PMS?
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or is he just guessing?
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in the Menke obit tb. He committed the cardinal sin of going off-topic.
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Sep 29, 2010 12:04:01 PM CDT
...it's the loss of past posts that would likely keep me...
by flickapoo
...from coming back in such a situation.
I know it's silly, but I like to think I've flicked some solid poo over the years...I've been secretly building a poo cathedral. Knock it down and I don't know if I'd have the heart to start over. -
Not alot of people know that...
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i cant find it. oh and Nolan has confirmed batman three and that there is a script which jonathon nolan is working on. its all falling into place. Chris nolan when asked is he going to direct said that it was becoming inevitable. no word on the villain and no word if bale is coming back.
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like me? i piss people off all the time.
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it was no big deal. i have a life outside of AICN you know.
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FUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!
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about 4 or 5 from the bottom. Vic Twenty, I don't know if these deletions (or bannings) that got DVader riled up, but in the first few posts you can see someone upset about "First" posts and people throwing around insults. Those posts are no longer there (weren't there yesterday when I first went into it soon after it went up). That sort of thing, in an obituary thread, has often led to post deletions and bannings, so if that's the case, they were hardly "arbitrary".As others above have said, this isn't the definitive answer to that question, but merely Caine's interpretation.
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Sep 29, 2010 12:22:19 PM CDT
TEAM D.VADER!!!TEAM D.VADER!!!TEAM D.VADER!!!TEAM D.VADER!!!TEAM
by president baltar
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But at the end of the day, the mods make the rules. We dont have to like it but (unfortunately) it is what it is.Token, I'm suprised you received the hammer as you seem least offensive and not to mention a good sport. (regarding the half japanese comments that were used purely out of jest and not to offend.)well like most horror/Sci Fi films, the brotha ALWAYS gets offed in one fashion or another.AICN is following tradition I guess. )0:
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yea i dunno even know why i got banned... at 1st i thought it was because i call herc a scunt but i guess i offended beaks instead somehow... but wit dvade, he did go against the rule that was stated, so it is his fault for gettin banned... not sayin i agree that he should be banned but atleast he knows why
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I listened to this on Chris Moyles this morning. What he said was that any scene he was in, was a real one. When someone pipped in and said that the children were wearing the same clothes Michael Caine said that, that was because it was a dream. He contradicted himself. In truth I don't think MC knew what he was talking about.
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the article should be clear about this. and D.vader had a big mouth so no wonder.
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i was the 1st to be banned THEN Jehova (who is of some minority)... i called it a aicnspiracy until i saw some of the white tbers gettin banned too
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Big Jim, a couple of fools (CHOPPAH and RPLocke I believe) posted some nonsense in the Menke obit and Beaks banhammered them and posted up a 'decree' - like the fucking Sherrif of Nottingham hammering it on a tree - that any off topic posts would be banned.
DVader sensing the injustice wrote a respectful rip to Sally Menke and then added in a reasonably worded comment that instantly banning someone for an off topic post in any tb would be unfair - seeing as how much trolling goes on in this site 24/7.
For that he got banhammered. The dude's been posting on this site since the very earliest days and is an amateur film maker himself. He's always friendly and respectful and i've never seen him involved in any kind of flaming. That's prob why his banning got such a big reaction. -
"Turns out the cave of light, water, and mystery wasn't the MacGuffin, everything else was. LOST was always about the island. The island didn't care what rules its protector drew up or if ancients mined it for magic and post moderns mined it for science. All the island cared about was being protected and so if you fell within its sphere of destiny and embraced it, you died and went to heaven when you accomplished your mission. If you denied destiny, you were doomed to be a ghost on the island until you righted your path. Look how simple that is," Caine admitted.
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Did I ever tell you about the time D.Vader sold me into slavery? He puts me on a ship to Thailand, right? And I'm chained to a pipe. Meanwhile ol' D.Vader is back in the states siring three beautiful children with MY wife. I hate D.Vader... But I respect him!
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thats borderline fascist behavior..none of us go into these threads looking for a semblance of structure..yes it can be civil, it can be anarchy but when has any TBer complained that we werent talking about the topic at hand.that shit gets boring quick..its only so many times you can say STAR TREK sucks and i hate PHANTOM MENACE..if we stray from the topic, so be it! is that a bananble offense. fuck no! threads flowing from topic to the next in an organic structure is what this place is all about.i understand beaks' sentiments that he was in a greiving mood yesterday at the loss of a great and talented editor and yes i dont condone the rude comments towards her (if there were any) but when a person cant question the how's and why's in which this game we call TALKBACK is played, then this place is not for me. I can get my news from other sites.
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For some reason, AICN writers stopped this for awhile. I'm so glad to see it's back!!!
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Caine says that Leonardo's no longer in a dream & that the final scene is real. I.e. the spinning top falls.
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That's consistent with the amount of time that it took to make TDK.
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http://tinyurl.com/27r9du9
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Douche. Sorry Merrick. Had to be said.
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So obvious, really.
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It is hard to get the whole picture with pieces missing. It does seem quite excessive, especially when it is possible to simply delete an offending post without banning (Herc did that to me once, and while I wasn't intentionally being a dick, and was mostly on-topic, I could see how he could have interpreted my comments as being trollish and trying to incite an off-topic conversation). Apparently I got off easy.As I said in another thread, most of the time going off-topic is the evolution of the conversation. How many times do we see a Lost thread contain conversations about BSG (or vice versa)? A story about Inception will lead to remarks about Nolan's other films, especially Batman.On the other hand, I do think that Obituary threads should contain a little more restraint and respect on our part. Being a troll or goofball or FIRSTer has no place there. And I think that should have been Beaks' response to Vader. One more black box reply simply stating, due to the serious and emotional nature of the topic, all off-topic posts will be deleted and repeat offenders will be banned.
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Hearing his voice makes me want to projectile vomit.
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Judge for yourselves: http://tinyurl.com/355ztx5
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wow just wow, now ive seen it all. THAT COULDVE BEEN ANYONE OF US!!!!
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Natasha Richardson's obit. I don't see him getting banned. "Many more will remember her as Lindsay Lohan’s milftastic mom in 1998’s “The Parent Trap” " I think that's rather tasteless for an obit. To quote Orwell "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."
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use tinyurl.com/27r9du9
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The Hypocrisy of Democracy i tell ya.
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atleast they don't ban us for trashing "celeb" visitors like say, bob orci and trust me, If that were the case,detractors like me and asi wouldv'e been nails in plywood ("hammered"!!)So AICN does somewhat support freedom of speech, but not in obits.
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FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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FUCK YOU AICN!!!! SUCK MY WEINER!!!
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ask yourselves..
would you come back here day in and day out if it was ruled with this regime..YOU MUST STAY ON TOPIC..YOU MUST BE CIVIL...YOU MUST AGREE WITH US...YOU MUST NOT MAKE FUN OF THE MODS CAUSE IT MAKES THEM CRY....
not very likely, which is why DV questioned beaks stance on banning which seemed to come out of nowhere, like he had an axe to grind. you cant pick and choose when and how and where and why you will ban someone. there needs to be rules throughout the entirity of AICN, not just every so few months..
i dont wanna hafta worry if the mods got laid the night before or are hungover and therefore in a pissy mood when i express my opinion.
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He spirit still roams the TB's of AICN, and always will.Protest unfair banning!!!!!!!!
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In the movie it just kept spinning. Or was it just starting to slow down when the credits came on? Great movie either way.
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You beat me to it re: his children. I thought it was made pretty clear in the film, just like everything else. (Have you ever seen a film, short of a documentary, with more exposition? Inception is the climax of a heist film spread over 148 minutes.) Nolan's trip down the rabbit hole was fun, but I don't think it was as ambitious or as groundbreaking as everyone gives it credit for being.
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Beaks hasn't gotten laid in years and had an annoying hair up his ass and decided to take out his frustrations on someone recognizable to the soon to be former fans of this site. D. Vader was simply stating the truth. Instead of just not posting on Beak's articles, how about we all try to get banned? Fun times ahead!!
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For those of you who still don't get it, the spinning top is a red herring. Or if you'd like, it's a focus for a less interested audience, one that needs a literal device to communicate a plot point.
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dont comment in the articles he posts and soon he will regret what he did.
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Poorly communicated. Literal as in physically manifested.
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Why did D. Vader get banned?
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...the rabid, overposting talkbackers are the smarmy pseudo-intellectuals. Writing post after post about a banned talkbacker who most of you never met or even know, an anonymous internet handle that you are wasting countless hours defending and debating. WHO CARES?! Most of us don't, but it's the vocal minority of you that are keeping this dead meme going. Move on with your life (if you could call it a life).Thank you.
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Michael Caine's opinion, man.
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sock puppets of AICN staff.A professional journalist wouldn't behave in such a childish manner. A professional journalist might be able to admit when he was wrong.My, how this site has changed. Once Harry made us feel like we were ALL geeks like him.Now, he and his brethren look upon us with disgust from what they believe is "on high."What a load of shit.
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Sep 29, 2010 3:11:25 PM CDT
Since when does Caine read the parts of the script he's not in?
by cookylamoo
By the time the movie's wrapped, he's on the bank line.
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Sep 29, 2010 3:12:46 PM CDT
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTLL LLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW
by colonelfatheart
Here's the screengrab of the posts that got Vader banned: http://tinyurl.com/355ztx5
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He should have just left it ambiguous.
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Would a professional journalist write such a half-assed obituary for someone so supposedly loved by the Mods on this site? You know what Sally Menke deserved? Not a locked down Talkback. NO. She deserved a REAL OBITUARY written by a REAL WRITER. FUCK YOU, BEAKS.
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going off-topic on an obit talkback? That happened to me once. I didn't even say anything controversial, but the lady who died was a personal friend of "Father Geek" and he wanted everyone on topic so that was that. I was "Bob Loblaw" at that time. Not to be confused with the guy who uses a variation of that username now.
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i found this place in 2004 or something but what attracted me here were the TB not the articles.
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Sep 29, 2010 3:25:55 PM CDT
i almost got banned for saying Emily Browning suck my penis
by dioxholsterreturns
Mods thought i was a pedo but from my perspective, im her age and she was 20 at the time. so i didnt get it. i do believe she should suck my penis.
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tops dont wobble and straighten...they wobble and fall...
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After 13 years.
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when did that air?
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There is no way in hell it's a dream! Don't be daft! -> http://bit.ly/945Klq
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I'm gonna repost this in a few other talkbacks. Please be kind enough to help me out.In honor of D.Vader and in response to Harry Knowles's email in which Harry threatened to permanently ban D. Vader if **WE** became annoying in our protests ("Chris will have a 90 day ban, unless he and his friends get annoying, in which case his ban will become perm.") Ain't it cool, guys? Threatening to ban someone for a protest initiated by OTHERS? And remember - this is from the fat liberal protest-worshiping toad himself! Guess "peace" and "love" and "power to the people" ain't exactly all that when it's directed at the capricious whims of you, your contributors and your site.For purposes of solidarity and protest, I'm taking Ain't It Cool out of my drop down menu, set my Outlook Reminder, and am avoiding this site for ninety (90) days - I'll return 12/28/10. If Vader's back, cool. If not, well, like others have said, there are plenty of OTHER sites to get this shit from. The one redeeming grace of this site has been the talkbacks and the people (smart, stupid, crazy, fun, insane, wild, angry people) in the talkbacks. But it looks like Harry et al. have decided to behave in a dictatorial and willfully impulsive manner, alienating many talkbackers. I'm done. See you in ninety!
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whats done is done.
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IP checks are easy...oh speaking of...If you want to get unbanned from AICN..fuck Harry and his "rules"..check my other posts..its pretty simple.
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of the prehype for "The Phantom Menace" and then his illegal preview screening of "Attack of the Clones"... after that it became recognized that the sight was a marketing tool. Of course I could be wrong!
I've been seated near Harry at a movie when he was getting a call from Michael Bay to screen him transformers test footage to guage Harry's reaction to designs... he really is (or was) connected.
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Could someone tell me the legend of this talk backer?
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every single pro-Lost posting that D.Vader ever made is now gone :-) its like he never existed.
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Sep 29, 2010 5:46:24 PM CDT
Too bad Michael Caine didn't answer the REAL Question about Ince
by theylive
Is Michael Caine's character the father of Mal or Cobb??? It is never stated in the movie! I think Nolan was ambiguous on purpose, but I have no idea why. Or he just forgot to say. And don't say its not important, all Cobb had to do was say "Dad" or Michael Caine's character (Miles) could have had 1 line to clear up the confusion.
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That's like a horror movie.
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ive read the harry emails pertaining dvade and it is clear he violated the (on the spot made up) rule, but what did yourSTEPDADDY do harry? he was clearly banned before the Sally Menke obit was ever mentioned... now i know that no one cares that yourSTEPDADDY is "gone", but i would like to know what "rule" he broke (seein as he wasnt fortunate enough to get a clear warning from "beaks")... but i guess i will never find out
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But I liked him, and I think it's wrong that he of all people got banned by someone with power who was obviously in a poor mood. That guy's been on here as long as me, which is as long as this site's been around. So how about it: band with me and all the other supporters of our friend on this forum and, in d.vader's way, politely speak up. Make your own d.vaderclone2, 3 etc. handle, copy and paste this message, and protest his banning in a civil manner. Let him back in now!
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MC is wrong, at least going by what's shown in the movie. Leo breaks his own rule and looks away from the top at lets himself see his kids faces. Thus he embraces the delusion of Limbo just as his wife did. The last shot of the movie, with the dramatic swell of the music, is the top still spinning with no sign that it will ever stop.
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Won't read the text or talkback or watch the interview. Even though I think it's a gimmick, the very boldness of using such a overdone gimmicky trick just FITS in with this movie. I can not ruin that. Good luck with this. Bring back D.Vader.*using big boy wanna be cool deep wanna be manly gruff like Batman voice*: "You're gonna have to master a few tricks if you're going to build three complete dream levels. Excuse me.""What kind of tricks?""In a dream you can cheat architecture into impossible shapes. That lets you creat closed loops.. like the Penrose steps.. the infinite staircase. See?""Paradox."
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I've been banned plenty of times....it's not hard to get a new Nick and log back in. suck dick you faggots
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how did D.Vades get banned? That dude never says anything truly offensive. I call Harry a fat ginger cunt on a daily basis and I'm still trolling here.
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LONG LIVE D. VADER
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did you call Harry a fat Ginger cunt too? Or did you say something anti-semitic to Mr. Beaks?
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I've been banned on all those routes...and then some
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Call Harry a fat ginger cunt jew loving fuck on his Obit...which I'm pretty sure is just around the corner...thanks to his fat lazy penis licking lifestyle. Then call Mr. Beaks a worthless greedy kyke fuckin retard....and that's how you get banned on AICN. Any questions?
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infowars.com
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who was banned before as Lockesbrokenleg. He/she/it was a useless child, who needs to finish cooking before coming here.
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from what I understand, is that he believes it was real because his character was never in the dream. However, there are many clues that it was either all a dream, or the dream started earlier in the movie than you think -- and possibly even orchestrated by Caine's character with Cobb's team(explaining how he could be in the dream as well). Depends on how much you want to read into everything(and Nolan's too OCD to not read into everything, if you ask me). If you believe what everyone tells you, then yeah, it was real. However, since you see the story through Cobb's eyes, and they were trying to con Cobb, then... who knows? It won't be a closed book until Nolan explains it himself.
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In every dream sequence, DiCaprio is wearing his wedding ring. When he's awake, no ring. In the last scene...no ring. He's awake. But I do think the beauty is that he doesn't care at that point.
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Sep 30, 2010 12:15:53 AM CDT
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by president baltar
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In the words of the great Lloyd Dobler: "YOU MUST CHILL! YOU MUST CHILL!" Like it or not, the guy's in pergatory for now. Let's move along.
And of course the end of inception is real, but Caine is wrong about the top... that doesn't matter. The top was the chick's totem, not our hero's. His was his kids. The defining moment of the movie was when Leo doesn't bother waiting for the top to fall or not. He *immediately* knows it in his heart and soul. This is the point of this part of the film: You think you know what is important until you have kids and then you truly know. Some deep thinking stuff man. -
and early in the film he spins it, watches it intently, and sees it fall. He was clearly using it as a totem, it fell, it wasn't all a dream. When people say "it was all a dream" do they mean from the beginning of the film? It's been discussed to death, but I don't see any reason at all to believe that, and his top falling is clear evidence to the contrary.
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The movie is designed to make people debate this. What a great movie though. Can we please have this on Blu Ray now!
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...no matter what mister Caine says, the greatness in that last scene lies in its arbitraryness.
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So the gist of the talkback is a bunch of deluded internet geeks being so wrapped in their own bizarre theories that their opinions are of greater value/intelligence/depth than the makers of the movie they're debating - has anyone considered that "Inception" is actually a lot more straightforward than you think - which is what Nolan said all along - just because something has layers of metaphor doesn't mean everything in it is ambiguous - and that's coming from a fan of the movie
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A spinning top in the dream world maintains the same speed. Here is the magical hint: It would never wobble.
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Sep 30, 2010 10:27:30 AM CDT
I don't need to be given an explanation of INCEPTION's ending
by asimovlives
The fun is that each gets their one opinions and theory about it, and the discussions that it can create. That's part of the fun. That's the fun of the ending. No "definitive" answers for me, thank you very much.
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How about you get banned too, you fascist fuck?
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