Sept. 28, 2010, 9:14 p.m. CST
but i hates the how i banned your tber spinoff...
Sept. 28, 2010, 9:16 p.m. CST
I didn't even get a chance to watch the Lonestar episodes on the dvr. <p> no reason to bother now...<p>No reason to trust a Fox series at ALL until it hits a second season
Sept. 28, 2010, 9:37 p.m. CST
by Six Demon Bag
And hype..yesterday seven channels replayed the pilot of the event, you could not escape it--my grandmother saw it and she's blind!!
Sept. 28, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST
so so long to lonestar happy trails don't forget to write don't call us we'll call you NOT!!!!
Sept. 28, 2010, 10:09 p.m. CST
with dvr, online streaming, downloads, etc...unless a show gets a ton of buzz, it may take some time for people to find it....at least let it run till midseason<p>but i didnt watch, so i dont care
Sept. 28, 2010, 10:10 p.m. CST
from friday that will be cancelled this season and ghost whisperer was cancelled last season so was that really a good idea nbc
Sept. 28, 2010, 10:20 p.m. CST
and no one cares<p> Another tedious wannabe BSG episode
Sept. 28, 2010, 10:25 p.m. CST
...after the first episode got raves from critics but ignored by audiences. Completely retool the marketing approach (which was ass) and maybe even give it a new name (that sucked too). Relaunch it when people are ready for something different.<br><Br>eh, or cancel it... I didn't watch it, so no skin off my nose. Just seems like a shame to spend that time and money developing a good show and the dump it right out of the gate.
Sept. 28, 2010, 10:36 p.m. CST
is RAISING HOPE. I hope the ratings for the second episode hold up. <br><br>As far as the season's first cancellation is concerned, I wish Fox would give HUMAN TARGET another chance instead of letting it rot in the Friday Night Death Slot. What'll they put in the slot formerly occupied by LIE TO ME on Wednesday?
Sept. 28, 2010, 10:38 p.m. CST
Is a mass migration to other channels the event?
Sept. 28, 2010, 10:49 p.m. CST
He seems to be the rare suit in the Tartikoff mold who seeks and champions quality, but quality and patience are no longer the stuff networks are made of. Good guy, bad fit.
Sept. 28, 2010, 10:54 p.m. CST
Yeah, I gotta admit the name of Lonestar didn't help. With that title I assumed it was just a Dallas type prime time soap. But when I heard the concept it actually sounded kind of interesting. Oh well.
Sept. 28, 2010, 10:58 p.m. CST
Sept. 28, 2010, 11:05 p.m. CST
The pilot was originally a kid from a white trash background trying to fit into the elite. Fox added the conman element and turned the main character into a bigamist asshole. Not sure if the "Friday Night Lights" straightforward realism would have given it better traction, but it couldn't have been any worse than what has transpired.
Sept. 28, 2010, 11:09 p.m. CST
Damn, Fox pulled the plug quick on Lonestar. I really liked the pilot, and have the second episode DVR'd. Damn it. I also, like Mike and Molly. Bank Robber and I get a pretty good laugh out of that show considering I'm fat and black and he is skinny and Blasian.
Sept. 28, 2010, 11:14 p.m. CST
it might have gotten some ratings. Actually, when is fox going to spinoff Glee. this could be there CSI or L&O. Glee(fill in the blank city)
Sept. 28, 2010, 11:42 p.m. CST
I was ALMOST going to catch up on the first two episodes of Lonestar on VOD, but now it's pointless. Fox is pathetic. I hope NBC is more patient with The Event, since I'm starting to get hooked after the 2nd episode. I really want to see where they go with that show. At least give it a full season!
Sept. 29, 2010, 12:10 a.m. CST
by Chief Joseph
Lone Star the raspberry!
Sept. 29, 2010, 12:31 a.m. CST
by xsi kal
Chuck holding steady in its ratings is not a bad thing at all, with many other shows dropping. (By next week, we'll see where the Chase is, for example). Nice to see a slight uptick for Castle. Enjoyable show with a fun cast.
Sept. 29, 2010, 1:39 a.m. CST
As long as Chuck holds it's 2.0, I see it lasting longer than Chase. Chase will likely dip to 1.8 over the next 2 weeks.
Sept. 29, 2010, 3:33 a.m. CST
The Chuck audience is always there even if its small. A move to Friday for a back nine and a more seasons could work. I guess it really depends on how Comcast feels about it; and what they could possibly put in its place. No guarantee Chucks viewers wont jump ship to House or Himym, you know two good well established shows.
Sept. 29, 2010, 4:08 a.m. CST
Just imagine a network with nothing but shows like MANIMAL, STREET HAWK and M.A.N.T.I.S. The nostalgia factor alone would have to pull in SOME viewers... right?
Sept. 29, 2010, 5:09 a.m. CST
by Martin Hogg
I really dont get why you liked Lonestar so much Herc, the guys dad summed it all up at the end of the pilot for me: "What, your going back to the girl whose parents you conned out of all that money? and use the money from the other con to pay them all back?" I might as well have been playing his dad, cos thats what i was thinking. Hokey premise.
Sept. 29, 2010, 6:19 a.m. CST
So, this was the big NBC Monday turn around. A show dealing with aliens and another show that should have been canned last season due to having a .05 better rating then Heroes. I can't wait for both to be gone by the end of the year.
Sept. 29, 2010, 6:48 a.m. CST
watched both episodes and was damn good stuff, it at least deserved 6 episodes to see where it was going! I love Hawaii Five-O so far, good to see Alex O'Loughlin back after they cancelled the entertaining Moonlight well before its time! Human Target is finally back tomorrow = YAAAAAAY! and thank christ HEROES is finally dead, long may it stay so!
Sept. 29, 2010, 7:41 a.m. CST
The second episode gave considerably more information of what the series is about and may have helped to keep more viewers. But the since the first hour was all over the place in terms of story, it's not at all surprising to see that huge drop.
Sept. 29, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST
Sept. 29, 2010, 8:02 a.m. CST
by duct tape wallet
"LONE STARR" "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine!"
Sept. 29, 2010, 8:05 a.m. CST
Move FRINGE to the Wednesday time slot LIE TO ME was to occupy. It will dominate against the opposition.
Sept. 29, 2010, 8:14 a.m. CST
I hope that Chuck is allowed to survive. It's one of the few network shows that my entire family can watch (and that gets rarer each day). If NBC cancels, I wonder if USA could pick it up? It would be a good fit with the character oriented shows there.
Sept. 29, 2010, 8:20 a.m. CST
by dead youngling
give 'um hell, mal!
Sept. 29, 2010, 8:37 a.m. CST
by The McPoyle Clan
but I hope there is some endgame in mind. Hamilton might enliven things when she appears more frequently, but the rest of it appears ready for a Use By date, especially the Sarah/Chuck thing.<br><br>I didn't notice whether NBC was doing repeats of their new shows on their cable cousins this week. Fox even reran Lone Star early Sunday, but I guess it didn't make a difference.
Sept. 29, 2010, 8:58 a.m. CST
Support Human Target! It's a great show! Move it to Weds again, Fox, you idiots!
Sept. 29, 2010, 9:21 a.m. CST
WHAT. THE. FUCK?
Sept. 29, 2010, 9:21 a.m. CST
WHAT. THE. FUCK?
Sept. 29, 2010, 9:23 a.m. CST
Lone Star, easily the best new show of the season, gets canceled after one god fucking damn episode? Fuck you Fox. Did it upset your fox News base of wealthy oil tycoons? What a travesty of god damn justice. How about promoting the god damn show? Has Zucker found a new job already? MOTHERFUCKER this enrages me.
Sept. 29, 2010, 9:47 a.m. CST
I was under the impression Lie to Me was returning in November. Is it coming back earlier to replace LoneStar? Or is Fox going to air Glee repeats on Monday until November?<p>Also, I agree with Sonny_Williams, move Fringe to Wednesday.
Sept. 29, 2010, 9:55 a.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
It's been called from the bench early.
Sept. 29, 2010, 9:56 a.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
Since it's their only remaining drama they have for this season. They are going to have to make sure the marketing mistakes with Lonestar are NOT repeated.
Sept. 29, 2010, 10:02 a.m. CST
I figured Fox burning off the second half of the second season over Summer was a bad sign for the show's future prospects.<p>Does Fox have baseball playoffs this year again? If so, then a lot of their shows will be on mini-hiatus for the next month.
Sept. 29, 2010, 10:09 a.m. CST
just because they have trimmed the budget and is relatively inexpensive to produce. The 8PM slot is death for NBC no matter what they put in there since it is going up against House, HIMYM, and Dancing with the Stars. Pulling Chuck and putting a show that is as expensive or more expensive will probably not produce any rating bounce. The only way they save money is if they put reruns of SVU or something (but 8PM is too early for that show). I think Chuck survives at least its 13 episode order if not a full season.
Sept. 29, 2010, 10:14 a.m. CST
by eric haislar
episodes to go onto syndication. I wonder if that will go into the networks decision. I love the show! even if it is cancelled I hope the 13 episodes they have to shoot will wrap up all the story lines so there is closer.
Sept. 29, 2010, 10:15 a.m. CST
by eric haislar
Sept. 29, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
Chuck is Produced by Warner Brothers. NBC Universal couldn't care less about it's syndication prospects since they don't get anything out of it. If the show was produced by Universal Media Studios, it would be a different story since it is in-house.
Sept. 29, 2010, 10:28 a.m. CST
1) A series needs 4 seasons, not 5 for syndication. This, above all else is the main reason Chuck got brought back and largely why its the last season of the show. Its also the reason a stinker like Heroes made it to a 4th season after the money they invested after season 1.<p><p> 2) Hawaii Five-O did decent. A 2nd episode dropoff of somesort is always expected and theirs wasn't bad at all.<p><p> 3) The Event took a pretty decent hit.<p><p> 4) Things aren't looking that bright for Chase but the Bruckheimer name should get it out to at least 5-6 episodes to see if it can gain traction.
Sept. 29, 2010, 10:36 a.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
I worked in Syndication for a network. 4 seasons is not the magic number for a broadcast show. The desired number for Syndication is still 100 episodes. Syndicated shows air year round, so you need enough episodes to fill a good span of time. "Chuck" was brought back by NBC Universal because the creators did a good job of trimming production costs. It wasn't brought back for syndication purposes. <P>NBC currently syndicated House, Monk, Law and Order, Access Hollywood, and now some Litton Entertainment properties and Bravo's "Real Housewives" franchise. The biggest show that they are preparing for, for the 2011-2012 year "30 Rock".
Sept. 29, 2010, 10:38 a.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
Sept. 29, 2010, 11:17 a.m. CST
by Jack Burton
Of course it got killed. And if Chuck is taken out I'll be down to ONE network drama, The Event. Yeah yeah, but I'm sticking with it for now. FOX is absolutely loaded with crap now. All of the networks are. NBC Thursday, The Event, and Chuck. That is all I watch on the Big 4. The rest is HBO and FX.
Sept. 29, 2010, 11:17 a.m. CST
Sarah's looking hot as usual. The quick change into the dress!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!! PLUS, the return of JEFFSTER and the rest of the Nerd Herd/Buy More staff! I almost cried. lol. Jeff and Lester are great! I scared the crap out of my dog I was laughing so hard. Love those guys!
Sept. 29, 2010, 11:23 a.m. CST
or episodes for syndication. Certainly, 100 episodes is ideal. However, demand can also play a part. Both The Sopranos and Sex & The City were in syndication with less than 50 episodes. However, being Cable shows it is a bit different. As for network shows, I think Family Guy has been in syndication since it's second or third season.
Sept. 29, 2010, 11:24 a.m. CST
Sept. 29, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST
Mondays are dead to me. (Which is OK, because I have so much to catch up with from Sunday.)
Sept. 29, 2010, 11:50 a.m. CST
Hail Human Target
Sept. 29, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST
My favorite show on television. But it's in a crappy timeslot, competing against Dancing with the Stars and the CBS comedy block. <P> I think it's doing well considering the above obstacles. I wasn't aware it was only picked up for 13 episodes so far, so I hope they decide to give it a full season. <P> Also,<P>  ‍‍‍‍<br>FREE D.VADER!  ‍‍‍&zwj</br>
Sept. 29, 2010, 12:33 p.m. CST
Cut off an arm and two more will take its place!
Sept. 29, 2010, 12:34 p.m. CST
all of nbcs shows suck no matter what they call it thats why they all get cancelled but now that jeff fucker is gone maybe things will get better
Sept. 29, 2010, 12:44 p.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
The ideal number for hour-long series is 100. Family Guy wasn't in full on Syndication after it was canceled. It was only on Adult Swim. Once it was revived by FOX, after a few seasons it finally went into syndication on TBS and in all US markets in 2007. Family Guy is also the second highest rated off network syndicated sitcom on the air right now. <P>The Sopranos was syndicated in Spring 2006. But that was solely with A&E so it's different than being cleared with broadcast network affiliates nationwide since A&E is cable, they have different rules. With shows that don't make 100 episodes but ended their run, you mainly find them on cable line ups. Not broadcast syndication. <P>Also Sex and the City ended in 2004 and the re-runs aired on TBS at first before they expanded to Tribune Owned stations. Due to low ratings on the Tribune stations, it is only shown on TBS now. <P>Chuck will definitely find it's way to syndication, but again, NBC doesn't care because it's not an NBC produced property. They pay a licensing fee to Warner Brothers.
Sept. 29, 2010, 12:46 p.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
Family Guy was canceled after season 3 in 2001. It was revived for the 2004-2005 season for it's 4th season. When it reached syndication, it was already on it's 6th season.
Sept. 29, 2010, 1 p.m. CST
I'm reasonably certain there will be an article here about this eventually.
Sept. 29, 2010, 1:26 p.m. CST
and Lonestar 2 episodes. Does that make any sense?
Sept. 29, 2010, 1:44 p.m. CST
I was sure I'd seen Sex & The City running at 7pm daily while they were in their last, or even second-last season. But I could have the timeline confused. I also thought The Sopranos was running in repeats on A&E before that, but again not 100% certain. <p>However, I do believe, that despite a show's total number of episodes, if there is enough demand (or perceived demand) someone, somewhere, will try and get it syndicated. If there is money to be made someone will do their best to make that money.
Sept. 29, 2010, 2:03 p.m. CST
Another Terminator / Dollhouse situation wherein they keep plodding along to terrible numbers and incessant hardcore fan bitching throughout various outlets. Both those shows, while great, probably did not have the numbers at any point to justify how long they went on for. Just kill Lonestar early. I too have never heard of this show anyway. And it does remind me of Spaceballs.
Sept. 29, 2010, 2:11 p.m. CST
though I suspect it would go to Syfy before USA. It would work as part of a block with Warehouse 13 or Eureka (certainly better than Eureka/Haven having been paired together). Then again, given the NBC/Comcast deal, maybe G4 suddenly sprouts a bit of budget and shows it.
Sept. 29, 2010, 3:12 p.m. CST
Better not be opposite Survivor.
Sept. 29, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
The demand would have to be huge for an hour long drama. Most hour long shows that are successful in syndication are procedurals because they can be run out of sequence. Serialized Dramas are a harder sell. You would def see a comedy with under 100 episodes air sooner. But sometimes those shows come in an overall package with other more successful shows. I worked for a syndicator that did mostly dramas. But they were all procedurals. Other hour long dramas in the vault were harder to work with. And when we finally got a solid comedy to work with, we were all happy.
Sept. 29, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST
It was in the post-House slot, whereas Dollhouse and Terminator were in the Friday death slot. Even with all of the promotion and one of Fox's biggest lead ins, Lone Star pretty much just matched the second season premiere of Dollhouse.<br><br> Tall_Boy66 may be right... they may have just wanted to be rid of it rather than let people become attached to something that would never be big enough to fully justify keeping.
Sept. 29, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST
by Mr. Profit
Since they have a good relationship with WB. Nikita, Gossip Girl, Hellcats, Supernatural, One Tree Hill, The Vampire Diaries, and Smallville are WB productions on the CW. I would think it is safe to say that the majority of their programming is from WB. If Chuck were to move, I think it would move there.
Sept. 29, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST
At least it's away from the Friday Death Slot, though.
Sept. 29, 2010, 4:58 p.m. CST
not only is it moved to wednesdays, but the season premiere has been delayed over a month
Sept. 29, 2010, 6:34 p.m. CST
Outcome 1. Cancelled. Outcome 2. WB moves the show to the CW; lasts a couple more seasons, makes the profits off Syndication. Outcome 3. Comcast buys the show off WB. Keeps it on NBC for another couple years, and makes the profits off syndication.
Sept. 29, 2010, 6:37 p.m. CST
Network TV can not sustain a good drama. It has to be flashy mystery bullshit to get the reality TV watching idiot masses to tune in. I think it would have been a truly great show if it was on FX. Shame really.
Sept. 29, 2010, 7:32 p.m. CST
Seriously, though, fun show. Good Cast, good chemistry, good dialog. Stories are silly, but supposed to be.
Sept. 29, 2010, 7:36 p.m. CST
How could they be so sure Lonestar was worth airing and promoting, then give up after a week?<p>How could they even put it on the air if they had literally no confidence in it? Seems like maybe, if they had ANY confidence in it, they would have tried another time slot for it before cancelling..... <p>They didn't even give it the old Friday Death Slot--why not swap it with Human Target, see if it could find an audience.<p>So either they are really stupid (probable) or the next episodes really sucked (equally probable) or Both (most likely).
Sept. 29, 2010, 11:09 p.m. CST
Reminds me of Invasion, Jericho, V and Flashforward. Starts with a big event and we spend half or the whole season waiting for somethingelse to happen. The rating generally refect it. Debut big end cancelled. 3.6 dip to 2.9 in the first week-not good.
Sept. 30, 2010, 12:20 a.m. CST
I really tried watching it but I could never get into this show. It's not funny, the lead is lame and the premise is laughable. Watch Chase, it's so good.
Sept. 30, 2010, 12:53 a.m. CST
Almost never watch network TV, but Castle is pretty damned good!
Sept. 30, 2010, 8:30 a.m. CST
What did you expect? The moment THE EVENT devolved into sci-fi, the audience fled like oh i don't know intelligent human beings. SPIN IT HERC! SPIN THE MASSIVE FAILURE OF THE EVENT INTO SOMETHING POSITIVE! GO! GO! GO! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! And I'd like to know what you blame the 20 percent drop on IF NOT the introduction in the first episode of a sci fi element. TWENTY PERCENT OF THE AUDIENCE SAW WHAT THE EVENT WAS AND WISELY LIKE GROWN UPS MOVED ON AND SAID THIS ISN'T FOR ME THIS IS FOR MORONS. Clutch your FLASF FORWARD trapper keeper and hold it against the buffeting winds of reality as long as you can. But remember, grown up intelligent people DON'T LIKE THINGS WITH MAGIC SUPER POWER NONSENSE BULLCRAP LIKE THE EVENT! Genre material is dropping off the airwaves any time it focuses on the genre element. THE EVENT will soon be cancelled, and I'll be laughing over the image of Herc curled up on his bed rocking back and forth going "People still like space ships! THEY REALLY DO!"
Sept. 30, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST
It nothing revolutionary, to say the least, but the characters are fun, and I usually like a solid quirky detective show that doesn't take itself too seriously.
Sept. 30, 2010, 9:15 a.m. CST
when that crapfest CHUCK is finally cancelled...and i hope it doesnt make the syndication benchmark, and just goes away...for a show that awful to last into whatever season its in simply because some of u dont have girlfriends and NEED to wank to whats on TV is sad. @forgetfulpete......how exactly is the event for "morons" ....how exactly do "inteligent human beings" spend their nights....what do they watch ?? id love to hear it....or at least what u think they watch, since it seems u are putting yourself in the intelligent group...the only reason the event would get cancelled is because people are dumb these days and cant follow a storyline. its an awesome show, even if the flashbacks are lost-esque. science fiction is alive and well, so yes, people do like spaceships. if i goto a movie, i goto iron man or star trek or something where something amazing and magical happens, ala hot tub time machine....if i want to watch something thats actually happening in the world like "hurt locker" or the like, ill put on the news, movies and tv are for fantasy and adventure, not reality...if u dont like genre shows watch what every other loser out there watches, dancing with the (has been) stars, glee, jersey shore, idol, in other words CRAP !!! those shows will all be canceled and GENRE shows will still be going strong.... and to whoever keeps comparing SGU to BSG, pull your harry potter wand out of your ass, its nothing like BSG...hearing non sensical comparisons always reminds me of those jackasses that compare or want every single fracking thing to be like TDK, meanwhile it was a steaming pile of jumbled nonsense that i hope the next(if ever) batman movie improves upon. and to whoever winds up writing the next superman movie......remember !!! CLARK KENT DID NOT HAVE GLASSES AS A BOY IN SMALLVILLE !!!!!.....thank u all
Sept. 30, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST
Show the freaking underwear scenes in the previews!!!
Sept. 30, 2010, 11:20 a.m. CST
Maintaining while everyone else sinks. It's a real shame about Lone Star. It was a very solid show whereas Jerk The Audience Around Week To Week aka "The Event' will inevitably plummet week to week as audiences grow more and more disgusted by the writers jerking them around. Sure, they probably do have an ending in mind but the characters aren't nearly as compelling as those on Lost and Lost took time before getting to the real big mysteries. If you watch season 1 of Lost, one of the biggest mysteries was a polar bear. Whereas The Event goes straight to magical portal on day 1. It's going to run out of steam fast.
Sept. 30, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST
I watched the pilot and have the second show on DVR. After seeing the ratings I'm thinking "why bother". NBC can't keep it on the air long
Sept. 30, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST
mid-season prospects are waiting in wings? Do we have reality shows galore?