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Mr. Beaks Interfaces With Jeff Bridges! TRON LEGACY Preview Week Begins!
The gradual unveiling of TRON LEGACY continued this past weekend, as Disney invited a horde of online, print and international journalists out to Digital Domain in Venice, California for an all-day "long lead junket" that essentially served as an interactive tour through the press notes. The thoroughness of the event - which included press conferences, design presentations, a primer on "The Mythology of TRON" and a peek at twenty-three minutes of the still-unfinished film - was impressive, but it also underscored the studio's challenge in marketing the film to a non-geek audience. While we've been sold on this movie since Disney sprung the Joseph Kosinski-directed test reel on us at Comic Con '08, most moviegoers aren't up on their TRON lore. They may be familiar with the iconography (i.e. light cycles, discs and, of course, the glowing suits), but the original film itself is still very much a cult item. And though the new film boasts breathtaking 3-D environs and groundbreaking visual f/x from Eric Barba's Oscar-winning BENJAMIN BUTTON team, that game done changed a year ago. The novelty of 3-D has worn off. TRON LEGACY won't be a $200 million-plus smash if it's just a fan-servicing, nostalgia-infused light show. You need something more to connect with audiences on that kind of scale. Something grounded. If TRON LEGACY works as a human drama embedded in a digital world, it'll be due to Jeff Bridges, who returns to the grid as programmer Kevin Flynn and the designer's run-amok creation CLU 2.0 (played by the actor - via Barba's disconcertingly seamless f/x - as his younger self). Though Steven Lisberger's TRON wasn't a particularly warm film, it looks as though Kosinski and screenwriters Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis are banking on a heart-tugging father-son story to win over the folks who don't spritz their trousers at the first sight of a Recognizer. Judging from the twenty-three minutes of footage (which I'm embargoed from writing about), Bridges is emotionally locked-in. Perhaps this is because Bridges was brought on early to help develop the concept of TRON LEGACY; more likely, it's because Bridges always does the work. There hasn't been a more dependable or resourceful movie star over the last four decades; even when he's reprising a character like Flynn or Duane Jackson, he never repeats himself. In fact, I'd argue that Bridges has never made a truly bad film because he's worth watching even when the material has failed him. Who's had a comparable run? Before I got the chance to spend ten torturously brief minutes with Bridges during Saturday's junket, I watched him hold court during a press conference, where he spoke excitedly about everything from the technical/performance challenge of bringing CLU 2.0 to life to his love for the vector arcade classic BATTLEZONE. He didn't come back to TRON for a paycheck; he came back because he's proud of the original, and believed they had the opportunity to make cinema history a second time. When you see the finished CLU, I think you'll understand why. When I finally sat down with Bridges, we talked about the strange exhilaration of reliving your youth through f/x wizardry, his feelings on technology, and because I couldn't help myself, John Huston's FAT CITY. If I'd had an extra five minutes, we'd have delved into CUTTER'S WAY.
Mr. Beaks: I can't imagine they would ever make a TRON sequel without you. How much input did you have into the shaping of the concept and the story?
Jeff Bridges: They invited me to come on board for that because one of the things I was interested in - along with all the technological stuff that brought me on board on the first one - was I thought this was an opportunity to create a modern day myth about technology, and how we might navigate these waters today. We have all of this technology at our fingertips, and how we use it is really important. They were in agreement on that, and they said, "Please bring your thoughts to the table; we're interested in what you have to say." So I did that quite a bit.
Beaks: Are there particular story elements that you can point to as yours?
Bridges: It's hard to really separate it now. We all just jammed on it. No one really says, "That's mine!"
Beaks: It was kind of communal.
Bridges: Yeah.
Beaks: How would you define your relationship with technology?
Bridges: I kind of have a love/hate thing going with it. I can't keep up. I won't Tweet or Facebook. I have a website that I have a lot of fun keeping up. I created it originally to pitch this album, BE HERE SOON, that I put out a few years ago. And then I just started looking at it as a canvas that I could shoot out to the world. It's like having your own radio and TV station - and as the bandwidth gets bigger it's going to get more sophisticated. I love that - and email and all of that stuff. But you get trapped by it, man! You just sit there... you put this stuff out, but then you've got to answer all of the stuff coming back in. It's daunting, man. It keeps comin' at ya. And to sit in a chair all day long at this thing is kind of depressing. But it's also fun. It's a challenge how we balance it out - and that's kind of what [TRON LEGACY] is about in a way.
Beaks: You seem so eager to preserve the secrets of the filmmaking process, particularly the visual f/x.
Bridges: Yeah, yeah. I know...
Beaks: It's the old magic trick thing. If you know how the trick works, it's not magic anymore.
Bridges: Yeah! And that goes not only for this movie, which is challenging enough, but any movie - to do what we're doing here, to entice them to come without giving away too much.
Beaks: It's so cool seeing that youthful visage of yours [as Clu]. We first saw it at Comic Con, but now it's much more seamlessly integrated. I see that young guy, and I expect to see him sitting down at a diner with Stacy Keach.
Bridges: Right!
Beaks: I get very nostalgic seeing that fella.
Bridges: That's good to hear!
Beaks: How does it feel for you?
Bridges: Well, one of the cool things about this technology... I'm a movie lover, and I go to see a lot of films, and whenever you get two actors playing the same character from different ages, it's always kind of a little bump. Especially if you're cutting back and forth; then it's very confusing. But with this technology, I can play myself at any age. I can play myself as a little kid! It's wild, that thought!
Beaks: Would you like to do that?
Bridges: Yeah! I know some movies where you could play an old man and a young baby. There's something wonderful about that.
Beaks: I brought up Stacy Keach for a reason. FAT CITY is one of my favorite films of the '70s. And I know it's been restored.
Bridges: I thought you were going to say, "And there's a sequel!"
Beaks: I don't know if I need to see that. It's sad enough as it is. But I know they've restored it.
Bridges: I hadn't heard that.
Beaks: Yeah. It's one of those films that hasn't completely gotten its due. There are people who love it, but there's not a wide-enough audience that's aware of that film. It's an amazing movie.
Bridges: I'm very happy about that. You know, Connie Hall, the wonderful DP, shot that. I remember Ray Stark almost fired him because of the differences between his exposures. In the bar, you could hardly see... (squints) it was so dark. And then outside, it was like (shields his eyes from the blinding sun). That's what Hall and Huston were going for, to make the exterior feel like you just came out of a dark bar; it's really blown out. He's been copied since. A lot of people do that now. But it was startling when it first came out.
Beaks: I think it was startling in part because people had a certain expectation of Huston. And here he's working with this more experimental cinematographer. Considering where FAT CITY stands in Huston's career, what was it like working with him on that film?
Bridges: It was interesting because I did a movie after that where he played my father. But in FAT CITY, I was always kind of sad [on set]. He was so nice to Stacy; he played backgammon with him. Looking back on it, I realize it was a directorial choice; he kept me back on my heels. That's how he wanted Ernie Munger to be: not really sure of himself. But when I acted with him a couple of years later on WINTER KILLS, he couldn't have been nicer. "Oh, Jeff! How are you doing!" It was fascinating. He was just wonderful to work with in both worlds.
Beaks: How do you feel about directors who play mind games to elicit a certain kind of performance from an actor?
Bridges: (Pause) That happens on many different levels - sometimes on a conscious level, and other times on an unconscious level. I accept that. I try to empower a director to have power over me, to take me past my own conceptions and have their way with me sort of, so I can transcend myself and my thoughts about how the character might be, so it's kind of a surprise for me. It's a good thing.
Beaks: Do you find that young directors can be deferential to you? Do you ever have to let them know it's okay for them to direct you?
Bridges: I try to do that with directors who've never directed anything as well as the old guys. There's only so much time to do the work you have to do; you want to get deep as quickly as possible. So I try to tell the director how I like to work and how I've worked in the past, and I try to find out how he likes to work. I try to be as open and candid as I can with that.
Beaks: On something as big and tech-heavy as TRON LEGACY, do you find there's still room for the human element? Do you ever feel overwhelmed by it all?
Bridges: Yeah. It's a challenge on a movie like this. You've got to work on your "overwhelmed", and not let it get away from you. This is probably a life thing, too: you can't spend too much time resenting the way it is not matching your perception of how it would go down. You've got to get with the program.
Especially when, in the case of CLU 2.0, you are the program. I know you're going to see TRON LEGACY when it hits theaters on December 17th, but what you need to do in the interim is watch FAT CITY, CUTTER'S WAY, THUNDERBOLT AND LIGHTFOOT, THE FABULOUS BAKER BOYS, AMERICAN HEART, FEARLESS, WILD BILL... Faithfully Submitted, Mr. Beaks
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A pleasure to watch in anything!
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Sept. 28, 2010, 2:45 a.m. CST
suggest everyone watch the doc on the making of the original
by brabon300
it is truly amazing what they went through, especially now that most of the fx found in that movie can and is being done by kids on crappy pc's<P>that the academy refused to nominate the movie for fx because "computer graphics is a cheat", was absurd back then, and is even more absurd now<p>for most in my gen, it was our first experience with computer terms, the concept of a virtual reality world, the idea of computer viruses, and the beginnings of the net<p>i think the buzz is strong enough that they dont have to worry much about topping that 200 mil
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Great actor, that goes without saying, but he's always come across as just a 1st class person. Had a lot of influence on me and my fan fic writing, based my main character on Jeff's look and mannerisms. Great body of work and not showing any sign of that stopping anytime soon (especially with the LOOOONG overdue Oscar), so long may that continue.
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His finest performance by far.
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Was the ship's counsellor on the Korean versions of star trek.
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...wasn't convincing from what was shown in the trailer. Maybe they're still working on it.
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for starman, a quite but effective performance.
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thank you john c. for ending that film with a closeup of karen allen.What a beauty!
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I'm sure it's a great article, but "Tron Legacy" is barreling towards the overkill department in terms of marketing - and that's for all the movie websites. If I read anymore, I'll be sitting in the theater watching the movie and mumbling, "Seen it... seen it... read about... seen it... " I want "Tron" to be a great Christmas present and surprised by what I discover inside.
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I agree with the doctor. I don't want to burn out my hype servos before the film gets here. Disney is banking huge on this, clearly, but I came pre-sold.<p>Although I'm always up for an interview with The Dude. He's one of my favourites.
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Co-sign here. I'm avoiding it all from here on out.
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I think Bridges' involved playing a gym coach.
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Sept. 28, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST
"They may be familiar with the iconography, but the original fil
by Ditko
Oooooh poor little teenage bastards. Fuck'em. All they have to do is run to the nearest rental and rent the thing. They might have to leave the basement! Oooooh.
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I love hearing how movies get together, & get done. I've seldom has less enjoyment on a film that I knew about, w/ or w/o story elements. Then again, I've been like that since becoming a Trekker over 20 yrs ago.
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I hope everyone here will seek out a copy of that underseen masterpiece.
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good stuff
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It also had great setup for a sequel.
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in pretty much everything he's done. Starman was great, strange movie but it was still a fantasy movie that had it's great points!
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Way underappreciated for much too long. I hope this movie turns out to be at least a quarter of what I have built up in my mind. If it is, it will be huge!
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it's not CGI used on Bridges to make him look younger like they did in X Men 3. His entire head is CGI. Its going to be pretty revolutionary stuff. There's shots in the new trailer and they look fucking good to me, and they aint finished yet......Get ready for Bruce Lee/John Wayne comebacks.
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...are overestimating how much the average movie geek is interested in interracial romance.
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Sept. 28, 2010, 1:39 p.m. CST
Looking forward to the new Tron
by ITraveledBackInTimeToTeaBagAbrahamLincolnInTheFace
But am confused why I'm supposed to give a shit about the difficult time the studio is going to have marketing this to the population unaware of the original. Personally I hope this is a great movie as I will definately be throwing out the dough for it. But I'm sick of the costs of these tentpoles being thrown at me like I could give a shit. This movie is probably gonna make its money back, but if it doesn't boo fucking hoo.
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sure technology might reach a point where physically you can re-create them but something very important will be missing, the personality and voice. its not too bad if the actor in question is still alive and in shape but for the dead ones, it'll never work. even if they found someone who could do a kickass impersonation of the celeb's voice, theres still the body movement and body language that'll give away its not them. they shouldnt ever attempt to bring anyone back from the dead, just use it for rare instances like these where an actor needs to play themselves at different ages and/or physical shapes.
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i saw a new trailer for this movie at the theater recently and they've already improved him. he looked much more real and natural compared to that trailer AICN posted a couple weeks back. the lip synch was even improved so thats a good sign for that effect in the final product.
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Some of the posters for this movie make it look like some shitty anime movie.
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if you haven't seen it yet.
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And he's not much of a box office draw. Not really complaining since it's not like I want will smith or cruise in those roles, it's just odd that they are willing to bank on him.
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Bridges should have responded to every one of Beaks' questions with that.
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D.Vader was one of the most valuable Talkbackers on this site. He had been here a long time, and he always had something SMART and THOUGHTFUL to contribute to a conversation. Even when he disagreed with you, he did so respectfully, therefore commanding the same respect from you. <p> This place is overrun with trolls and spammers, but D.Vader gets the boot for merely questioning Beaks' arbitrary banning policy? Pardon my French, but what a load of shit. Vader deserved better than that. <p> Goodbye for now, Vader. You are a wise Talkbacker, a helluva Pedalbacker, and a loyal friend. I hope you will be back soon. <p> Beaks, if you have any appreciation for fairness, you will reinstate D.Vader. I call on all of you who laughed or argue with Vades over the years to join me in imploring Beaks to undo his grave error. It is time to fix this, sir.
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God I love Jeff Bridges. Has he made any missteps in his career? Seriously, he always gives it his all and elevates even a badly written character. Even Against All Odds is watchable because of him. Damn I'd love to meet him.
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Sept. 28, 2010, 6:06 p.m. CST
Put the TRON 2.0 ticket down, Tron 2.0 is for Closers!
by SmokieGeezer
ABC- Always Be Closing!
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LEGACY has (at least some) satisfying character-developed content, effective Cameron/Pace 3-D, and intense action set pieces, busting the 200 mil mark won't be hard. Not much to do in most of the country in the winter months. Avatar proved that.
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And from the old teaser I was hoping we'd see that as well as Bruce Boxleitner returning as Alan AND Tron. Since...you know...he IS the title character after all.
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It's a good thing you spent half your time ingratiating yourself to Jeff Bridges by bringing up one of his niche films, instead of actually digging for some info on Tron Legacy. Not that he'd have given up any interesting tidbits on Tron that we haven't heard before, but still...an effort would have been nice.
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Google a picture of the Tron character from the original film. Observe Tron's symbol on his suit - 3 squares over a single square. If you watch the Tron Evolution trailer, you will notice the narration is by Alan1, and the program in blue has Tron's symbol (3 squares over a single square) as in the original film (users play as a program assisting Tron - they rez in near the end of the game trailer). In the Tron Legacy trailers, you will see Rinzor, right-hand man of Clu, in orange. Please note the program symbol on his suit. This is Tron. What happens between the end of Evolution and the beginning of Legacy? End of line.
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Still will make for an interesting plot even with the spoilage though. Tron is really the hero in the 1st movie while Flynn is a mix of the audience surrogate and Han Solo. So I guess having the sequel where Tron pulls an Anikan and goes all Vader as a minion for CLU 2.0's Emperor makes sense. I'm guessing the last act will be the reveal and Tron turning good again reuniting with Flynn and taking down CLU just like they did with The Master Control Program 28 years ago.
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what an amazing, underrated movie that is.
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and the True Grit remake looks SOLID. Why? Jeff Bridges.
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Sept. 29, 2010, 12:13 a.m. CST
The Assassination of D.Vader by the coward Mr. Beaks.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
We miss you D.Vader, The best contributor in AICN's history.
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diet.
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PEACE!!
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Fuck you Beaks you Nazi Asshole for Banning D.Vader
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<p>Denzel Washington is another actor who oftentimes elevates the films that he's in just by being present.</p> <p>Even Russell Mulchay's Ricochet.</p>
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good to see that you've let your z grade celebrity go to your head. As a former talkbacker you know have raised your status to one of the black box nazi. good job on banning people in the place you used to post. Piece of shit. Hope you don't mind when Devin comes on to this titanic and steals your spotlight. Keep up the shit work.
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Sept. 29, 2010, 6:34 a.m. CST
GETTING AROUND AICN IP BAN..WORKS FOR ME (5 TIMES)
by AICN_Bans_Are_A_Joke_Heres_How_You_Get_Around_Them
Its not hard..this site runs web 1.0 from 19fucking98...want to get around AICN IP ban..heres how...In your browser type in 192.168.1.1(if not reset your router) and you will get a username and password prompt. For the username (for most linksys routers) is admin and the password is admin (if not reset your router and if that doesnt work consult your manual). Ok now your in. Please click on MAC Address Clone in the setup tab. Alright now click enable if its not already enabled. Now you can change all the numbers for your mac address! Change all the numbers in the mac address (it may give you errors like out of range, to fix this only use numbers 1-9 and letters a-f) to different things! But before you click save settings i most warn you. You will still have access to your router but your internet will be disabled until you successfully complete the next step! now click Save Settings and wait, It may take awhile. After it says its completed or if the page refreshed click the Status tab. Your IP and mac and everything will be 0.0.0.0 and your internet will be disabled. Next go to your router and unplug it and unplug the modem too! When they are both off wait 1 minute and plug them back in. Wait for them to both get initialized and ready and go back to your computer. Your computer should now be internet connection enabled again with an entirely new ip address ....Ive had 4 banned AICN user names..works everytime
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YOu are a complete and total shithead...like you ever gave a flying fake fuck about Quentin Tarantino's fucking film editor..Name just ONE TIME on this site you ever mentioned her except in a fucking ridiculous obit (im guessing someone paid AICN to run that obit..as you dont run anything else unless you are paid to do so)...EVERYONE in the industry knows what a fucking fake this site is..(oh and please ban me..ill be back)..the only reason studio marketing divisions even give a flying fuck about Aintitcoolnews.com anymore is to read talkback comments..AND YOU BAN THEM.
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Can't wait for TRON legacy....I hope it is a the huge hit the 1st one deserved to be.
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I'd love to come in here, no one on the talkbacks, just the blackboxers sucking each other off
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My old UN was B_A_FETT (Bad Ass Fett), and because some douche bag with a similar UN was posting shit, they banned all ****FETT users.<br> <br>
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to reinstate the innocent D.Vader, acknowledging that you had a bad day yesterday.<BR><BR>Will you strike a blow for tolerance and justice or will you prove that you're a power-crazed, virtual pseudo-fascist? <BR><BR>Your choice.<BR><BR>Until (i.e., unless) you make the right choice, though, I'm boycotting all your future TBs and am encouraging others to do the same.
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I've been on this site since before The Phantom Menace came out. People come and go. Get over it.
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Bring back all the banned folks. They have more interesting things to say than most of the contributors on here. A lot of people read this site for the talkbackers, you know. I thought the whole point of having a blog was to get and retain readers, not go around banning them willy-nilly. Stop acting like a child, apologies and reinstate them all please.
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until DVader is back.
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thing. Then I saw that Beaks put it here, so I just came to the post section to let it be known that I won't read ANYTHING he posts until Vader is back. And even then, I STILL might not read his stuff anymore.
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to boycott not only Beaks but AICN for a good while. The banning of D.Vader is shit.
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I am amazed that anyone has ever been banned here...there are some seriously abusive pricks. I don't mean those that just disagree with contributors.
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you would be if you had to fight me in the games.
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Now Orcus must find out
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But what does bug me about this site is how they've gone from being the place I go for scoops and perhaps to chat a bit to the place I go to chat a bit, period, because the "scoops" are waaaay too little and definitely far too late.
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D Vader was one of the more knowledgeable and a cool dude to boot
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More knowledgeable posters
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Never liked that guy. <p> D.Vader 2010
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Beaks is the guy I never liked. <p> D.Vader was cool!
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Beaks is the guy I never liked. <p> D.Vader was cool!
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http://tinyurl.com/355ztx5 <p>Judge for yourselves.
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tinyurl.com/27r9du9
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Orcus better watch his scaly backside
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If those posts got D.VADER banned... I believe in 100% freedom of speech. 99,99% is not possible. Everything is oké too say and make fun of, or nothing is.
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shit piss and poop cunt cock sucking mother fucking sack of burnt turds on a box in a rug in a half queef cheefing dong shlonging ass packing barbarian butt pirate with sand in his hole making pearls with all that sand. What of these words are considered rude enough to get banned? Just curious. Anybody else got any words or questions? ps. Bring back D.VADER!!!!!!
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where a newborn gets raped to go and ban D.Vadar for trying to defend someone's free speech on a forum for it, is totally fucking bullshit. Fuck you AICN
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BAN BEAKS!<p> End of line.
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Looks like all the oldtimers are getting summoned. AQU@FAGGOTS ASSEMBLE!
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that this turns out to be just decent! If it's good I will be stoked, if It's great I will prolly stroke out and die. My old ass (37) grew up on Tron, it was such a "cutting edge" efx film at that time. It blew me away like Star Wars almost. Plus it's got the dude back.... Please don't let this just be awful!!!! *mystical spirit voice* BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
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We need the gang together
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Orcus was trying to be part of the wake over at 46774 and that cock DA_CHOPPAH starts fucking with Orcus. There's always some asshole to rain on things. Orcus is trying to get in touch with D Vader at that other site that they just made a movie of :)
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I hear you on that my friend. I'm friends with him on there as well, but you should come join us sometime on WOTM. We would love to have you
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By posting "All disrespectful and off-topic posts will result in immediate banning." Mr. Beaks, himself, was off topic. Unless he meant a single post had to be disrespectful AND off topic to be banned, which means D. Vader's posts don't warrant banning.
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For whatever reason, CHOPPAH has it in his noggin that Orcus= Bob Orci. Orcus can understand being blamed for shit that Orcus does, but to take crap because of someone else? If you can talk to the fellow and straighten that out, that would be appreciated. <Br><br>
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Beaks should have ended the interview with Bridges as soon as the responses became off-topic.
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(Courtesy of Le Vicious Fishus, who emailed Harry) <p> "The rules apply to everyone. Going off topic in an Obit has been a reason to be BANNED for the last 14 years of AICN. <p> D. Vader needs to take his 90 day punishment like a man, and not be a bitch. Being a bitch about it is what gets the ban permanent. <p> His infraction was minor in the great scheme of things - but so were some others. He has no special privileges just because he talkbacks constantly. <p> that talkback was never about a discussion regarding ettiquete on an obit, it was on the life of a beautiful and talented woman that has given us some of the best cinema of the last 20 years. THAT was the topic - and yes - even after he saw it, he was OFF TOPIC. <p> BEAKS' post was off topic, but a RULE - and the RULE was not to be discussed in the OBIT. <p> [Vader] will have a 90 day ban, unless he and his friends get annoying, in which case his ban will become perm."
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http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/46774. Orcus did not realize there was a 90 day wait period
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After 13 years.
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Has the little animation at the top left corner ever been more appropriate?
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I'm gonna repost this in a few other talkbacks. Please be kind enough to help me out. In honor of D.Vader and in response to Harry Knowles's email in which Harry threatened to permanently ban D. Vader if **WE** became annoying in our protests ("Chris will have a 90 day ban, unless he and his friends get annoying, in which case his ban will become perm.") Ain't it cool, guys? Threatening to ban someone for a protest initiated by OTHERS? And remember - this is from the fat liberal protest-worshiping toad himself! Guess "peace" and "love" and "power to the people" ain't exactly all that when it's directed at the capricious whims of you, your contributors and your site. For purposes of solidarity and protest, I'm taking Ain't It Cool out of my drop down menu, set my Outlook Reminder, and am avoiding this site for ninety (90) days - I'll return 12/28/10. If Vader's back, cool. If not, well, like others have said, there are plenty of OTHER sites to get this shit from. The one redeeming grace of this site has been the talkbacks and the people (smart, stupid, crazy, fun, insane, wild, angry people) in the talkbacks. But it looks like Harry et al. have decided to behave in a dictatorial and willfully impulsive manner, alienating many talkbackers. I'm done. See you in ninety!
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Sept. 29, 2010, 4:26 p.m. CST
wow,..we love your animation also Knowles..kind of fitting
by AICN_Bans_Are_A_Joke_Heres_How_You_Get_Around_Them
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This is bumming me out. <br><br> I totally get the idea of keeping people on topic for a column about someone's death. I picture it like a literal calling hours where, you know, you'd kick people out for being loud or rude. And, technically Vader was off point, I can see by the book booting him. But, I would have hoped for some decency and common sense in the application of the rules. Going back to the idea of calling hours, it's like a couple guys get booted for causing trouble and someone stops to say, "What's going on? Oh, do you really have to boot them for that. Oh! Missed that there was a rule against behaving like that. So sorry." and that guy getting kicked out for that, for just accidentally not hearing something. Like a memorial service with someone at the door with a bat in hand ready to take anyone out who steps off even a bit. For me that feeling is just as disruptive. BUT, again... if that's how those in charge want to run things, their call.<br><br> But, assuming the response from Harry posted above is from Harry, that bums me out even more. While Vader was by the rules out of line, I think those must be the most polite posts I've ever seen someone banned for. Very civil, very nice, trying to stick up for someone else's right to say what they want, his only fault being not seeing the rule posted about what was acceptable. And the response to the situation is to say he needs to be a man and not be a bitch. Really??? Ya gotta call the guy a bitch? And then to finish with the ban is only 90 days "unless he and his friends get annoying, in which case his ban will become perm." Well... he's banned. So... he is incapable of being directly annoying on site. So then, really, it means he can be banned forever if other people who he has no control over become "annoying" over this matter. How is that fair to the man? And what does qualify as annoying? Just voicing the opinion that his banning is unfair? Thoughtful serious posts on his banning (which I mean this to be) or only rude posts about the situation? Or does it come down to a blanket, "Sit down and shut up," on the topic?<br><br> And I can't get past the idea of Vader being annoying about things when he is unable to even post. Does that mean he needs to watch what he says on other sites?<br><br> Seriously, I've never seen an accidental and POLITE infraction of the rules (which Vader on the spot instantly apologized for) dealt with in such a sad manner. Banning followed by insults and warnings of permanant banning if people don't behave. Why, it's practically like stopping in for beer and a friendly chat at Cheers: it's where everybody knows your name!*<br><br> *Because we are keeping an eye on you, what you say and your behavior. So don't be a bitch or you will be removed. Now you will please enjoy a pleasant and relaxed time!
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As I do not want to cause any more trouble for Vader by my post which he had no say in, I will also be signing off for at least 90 days. Assuming I'm not banned for speaking my own mind in my last post.
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Harry is too busy jerking off to dead kids somewhere to worry about what you post. FREE VADAR!
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Does it suck about this D. Vader cat? Obviously a lot of you think so. But guess what? If he hadn't been banned you'd be calling Beaks a pussy for not enforcing his own rules. Don't wanna hear shit about how Talkbackers make this site. You ever click on the ads? True, Beaks seems to have opened a can of worms he'll certainly have to deal with soon, but all you folks "protests" are juvenile and misplaced. Grow up and respect that you're a guest on this site. Don't like the decision? Stop visiting the site. End of story.
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Run under the thumb of tin-pot power mad douchebags who have no lives outside of this site.
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Fucking idiot, no one would be calling beaks a pussy for not enforcing his rules, nobody would have given a fuck
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Fucking idiot, no one would be calling beaks a pussy for not enforcing his rules, nobody would have given a fuck
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Sept. 29, 2010, 6:23 p.m. CST
Fuck you and your threats, Harry! Ban me too you powermad prick
by MediaGold
I've been coming here from the beginning. I can't tell you how many links I've clicked in the past 14 years from this site. I'm wearing a T-shirt I bought from a site I clicked from this site right now. FUCK YOU for your mistreatment of talkbalkers. We make you, not the other way around. You need us, not the other way around. We have options, you don't. Pull your head out of your ass, reinstate Vader and apologize.<p> In the meantime, I'm giving Hitfix a try.
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Way to lay me low there, killer.
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Breaking News: Kevin Rose given the position of CEO of AICN Resistance is futile
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Beaks was in a bad place. Vader was blatantly and knowingly going off topic, after Beaks had offered a fair warning. Had Beaks simply deleted Vader's posts, vader likely would've continued to be a blowhard and question the obit rules. Banning him was sort of Beaks only choice. HOWEVER, I agree that the obit rules were in place out of favoritism to the departed, and other obit tb's have been subject to all sorts of distasteful things.
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But I liked him, and I think it's wrong that he of all people got banned by someone with power who was obviously in a poor mood. That guy's been on here as long as me, which is as long as this site's been around. So how about it: band with me and all the other supporters of our friend on this forum and, in d.vader's way, politely speak up. Make your own d.vaderclone2, 3 etc. handle, copy and paste this message, and protest his banning in a civil manner. Let him back in now!
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Bridges is great! He's a funny, laid-back, thoughtful, talented guy. Thanks for the interview, Beaks. I really can't wait to see "Tron: Legacy."
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Moron. Website success= traffic and advertising potential. You can break the news that Jesus is really alive and well in Delaware but it don't make a fucking bit of difference if no one reads it. I wonder who is clicking on these ads? Somebody who was looking for Jersey Shore episode guides? Fucking FUCKING idiot. I bet you think Facebook is there solely to help you interact with your friends too, you fucking noob. Yes I called you a "noob" when it comes to the internet.<p> There's this thing called money, and it doesn't grow on trees. And it sure as fuck doesn't grow on Vader's corpse.
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tinyurl.com/27r9du9 Wow man, that's ridiculous. BRING BACK D.VADER
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Sept. 29, 2010, 9:22 p.m. CST
Beaks treated DVader like Bellucci in Irreversible
by SON_OF_THE_CHOPPAH
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it's 90 days. Sick, I tell ya.
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Sept. 29, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST
DEVIN FARACI KNOWS ME VERY WELL.... DONT YOU DEVIN
by GABRIEL_GRAYS_CUMSHOT_FRENZY
HE AND I GO WAY BACK, YOU THINK IM JOKING ? I AM NOT. HE HATES ME AND I HIM. I WILL EXPLAIN ALL IN DUE TIME BUT FOR NOW, TAKE IT FROM ME, IF DEVIN IS NOW ON AICN, SO AM I. AND THOSE THAT KNOW AND REMEMBER ME, AND WHAT I AM CAPABLE OF, WILL REALISE THAT THIS DOES NOT BODE WELL FOR A,I,C,FUCKING,N. MARK MY WORDS. OVER AND OUT. AND AS ALWAYS, I WANK IN YOUR FUCKING IGNORANT TALENTLESS FACES, I LAUGHED AND FUCKING LAUGHED. BRACE YOURSELVES THIS WEBSITE IS ABOUT TO GO NUCLEAR. I FUCKING PROMISE. MY DEMANDS ARE AS FOLLOWS... 1, HARRY ADMITS THAT I HACKED HIS HARD DRIVE AND FOUND KIDDY PORN. 2, DEVIN FARACI IS TO CEASE WRITING FOR THIS WEBSITE AS OF RIGHT FUCKING NOW. (This is non negotionable) AND 3, 01000100 00101110 01010110 01000001 01000100 01000101 01010010 00100000 01001001 01010011 00100000 01000111 01001001 01010110 01000101 01001110 00100000 01000010 01000001 01000011 01001011 00100000 01001000 01001001 01010011 00100000 01010010 01001001 01000111 01001000 01010100 00100000 01010100 01001111 00100000 01010000 01001111 01010011 01010100 00100000 01001000 01001001 01010011 00100000 01010011 01010100 01010101 01010000 01001001 01000100 00100000 01000110 01010101 01000011 01001011 01001001 01001110 01000111 00100000 01010010 01000001 01001101 01000010 01001100 01001001 01001110 01000111 01010011 THESE DEMANDS ARE SERIOUS, AND I AM NOT JOKING! IF DEVIN WRITES ONE MORE POST FOR THIS WEBSITE. HE WILL THINK WHAT I PUT HIM THROUGH IN THE SUMMER OF LAST YEAR, WAS A FUCKING CAKE WALK. YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WARNED. I LAUGHED AND FUCKING LAUGHED. BUCKLE UP BUTTERCUP.
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Also all of you idiots posting on every board about D Vader... Do you guys not have lives? Seriously this went from amusing to annoying to seriously pathetic. No one is paying attention everyone is still coming. You also do realize your hundreds of posts about D Vader just ad to the post count right? Idiots look forward to not hearing from you guys from 8am-2pm since you'll be in high school.
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and his partner Orcus and Colonel Kurtz. No association between you and that hell beast intended.
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DO THAY DO, MY BROTHER!
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I'll be at work. You'll be home jerking off into a sock.
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90 days, o my brothers.
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It's Miller time! Orcus will now retreat to the underworld
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"You're banned from this interview, Mr. Bridges!"
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That's the most ridiculous shit I've ever heard. You are a moron. Jesus in Delaware. And I'M a noob. Twit.
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Sept. 30, 2010, 4:01 p.m. CST
Holy shit Gabriel Gray
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
Where you been buddy, also fuck you Harry
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I didn't realize that D.Vader's ban was only 90 days. He'll just have to suck up and deal.
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when he finishes,Harry doesnt let those fat sausages go to waste.
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That is all. I hate that you turned this site from one of loving discussion into a protest against you, but it must be done. You were wrong and you know it.
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Fuck D.Vader
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Sept. 30, 2010, 5:53 p.m. CST
I'd say "fuck SCARLETT_JOHANSSONS_BREAST_MILK" but...
by MattmanReturns
It'll probably be taken the wrong way.
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What bad place? He could've just chosen to ignore the comments (he's trying that right now, but you know he's furiously scanning the talkbacks).
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was in the pointless and irritatingly re-plotted remake of "The Vanishing." Other than that, he's good in everything, as far as I can tell. That Oscar for "Crazy Heart?" Well deserved, not just for a career of great work but for that movie, he was phenomenal.
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I did my best to get banned and failed. Apparently you can pretty much say anything on this site, except talk about the non-existent rules. I plan to abuse this to its fullest.
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Ah, nevermind. No one gives a sh!t.
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This movie would actually have to be the worst movie ever for me to not have a spontaneous orgasm. Yes, I'm part of the problem.
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This movie would actually have to be the worst movie ever for me to not have a spontaneous orgasm. Yes, I'm part of the problem.
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is part of the problem
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Jesus christ what bitches you are
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Can we still post here?
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Oct. 1, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST
Dying Website......Tatty Bye Peeps
by Yer_Manky_Lanky_Wanky_Swanky_Unka_Franky
Long time lurker since the earliest days of AICN. But I've just removed it from my favourites list and it's also now no longer my home page when I log on. Banning D. Vader was absurd and ill judged. The site's a shadow of what it used to be anyway, but what tipped it for me was Harry's veiled threat that the banned guy would also be held accountable for the actions of others if they continued to be "annoying". The entire FARAGO is indefensible. Its fucking nonsense. Off to find fresher climes for movie geekdom.
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most talkbackers here wouldnt last a minute in a regular forum/talkback on other sites..aicn is very patient with it's users. I remember what Knowles had to endure after the Inception thing, it was almost pervert, and I bet he didn't feel that good when it happened. I still feel sorry for him. Beaks had enough this day and some took the consequences. Get over it.
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D.Vader Reinstatement Countdown.<BR><BR>Day 2 of Beaks' condescending "William_Faulkner" sock puppet's blather.
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those who bitch about this site and threat to go elsewhere, they know they got nowhere to go, so they ultimately stay and keep bitching. You know who you are!
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From "The Last Picture Show"? What the fuck are you talking about?
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Fucking Amen.
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Didn't work. I'm perplexed. Guess I'm invincible. Beaks can't touch me.
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Or someone close to Harry's friend, no matter how innocent the post, and get banned. That's what it amounts to. Fucking ridiculous. Yes, what happened to Sally was a tragedy, but to ban someone for simply disagreeing with your point of view is fucking pathetic. Beaks and Harry need to grow the fuck up.
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Let it be known that a new attraction is now open at Disney California Adventure called ElecTRONica. It's a nighttime dance party and TRON promotional thing. They have Flynn's Arcade, complete with Flynn's Arcade game tokens and about forty '80s era classic arcade games. They even made a coin-op stand-up Space Paranoids game, just like Flynn played in the first movie. Also, a 3D preview of the TRON: Legacy movie. Overall it's pretty cool. I geeked out a bit. =) There's something very nostalgic about seeing the sign for Flynn's arcade in those big red neon letters.
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and a few new surprises. A Jawa riding a Ronto.
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the COOLEST actor of ALL TIME. and that includes the future
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