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Hercules Says No To ABC’s Crappy New Superhero Dramedy NO ORDINARY FAMILY!!

Published at:  Sep 28, 2010 5:58:23 PM CDT

SPOILER ALERT !!



I am – Hercules!!


Yet another unfunny hourlong greenlit by (thankfully) departed longtime ABC entertainment chief Stephen McPherson, “No Ordinary Family,” is a soft, banal and imagination-starved new superhero dramedy created by veteran dramedy writer-producer Greg Berlanti (“Dawson’s Creek,” “Jack & Bobby,” “Everwood,” “Young Americans,” “Eli Stone,” “Brothers & Sisters”). It follows a family of four that gains superpowers after its tiny vacation plane crashes into a unusually glow-y section of the Amazon.

It feels like a hundred other screen superhero stories, if more obvious and ham-fisted than most. The dad (Michael Chiklis, back in “Daddio” mode) is as happy as a Hiro Nakamura when he discovers his new powers. The teen daughter (Kay Panabaker) is as (inexplicably) horrified as a Claire Bennet when she discovers her own useful new ability. The big difference is I found reasons to follow Hiro and Claire. The "No Ordinary" family members are more broad, dull archetypes than characters; it’s difficult to muster much concern for or interest in any of them.

The pilot jumps from scene to scene with an unusual rapidity, yet I always felt I was at least three steps ahead of the story. Even children, weaned on so many years of big screen super-, spider-, bat- and x-men, are likely to find themselves wishing the storytellers would just skip over a few of the clichés already.

Digression. The scariest thing? The ever-underwhelming Berlanti was once hired to write the screenplay for the big-screen superhero saga “Green Lantern” (happily, director Martin Campbell subsequently ordered it rewritten by a better writer with more big-screen experience). Berlanti was also recently hired to script a movie based on The Flash, another iconic DC superhero.

I can’t say I care much what Berlanti does to an ABC dramedy that “Glee,” “NCIS” and “The Biggest Loser” should obliterate with little effort. But the idea of him penning the big-screen adventures of beloved DC Comics characters leaves me queasy. End digression.

The “No Ordinary” pilot was screened at Comic Con and then online this summer, so I feel like I’ve already talked about it way too much. But I’ll add this.

If you’re going to satirize superhero conventions, kindly try to find a route that offers at least a tiny chunk of new. The scene in which a “lair” is created for the Michael Chiklis character was far more entertaining, original and effective when Hiro and Ando did it on “Heroes” two years ago. Poking fun at the word “lair,” candidly, has been fucked-out for decades thanks to “The Tick,” “The Venture Bros.” and a legion of actual comic-book writers.

Like “Defying Gravity,” an ABC sci-fi dramedy from a summer or two ago, “Ordinary” seems destined to repel the viewers most likely to seek it out.

USA Today says:

… an as-yet clumsy hybrid that wants us to follow its battle of good vs. evil while worrying about the parents' estrangement, the daughter's boyfriend problems and son's self-esteem issues. Granted, that's a mix Buffy pulled off brilliantly, but Buffy generally avoided piling adult problems on top of high school traumas and had a slashing wit tonight's premiere can't match.… if you're looking for incredible, you'll have to rent the cartoon.


The New York Times says:

… it’s not clear whether this series — a hybrid of family drama and graphic novel — can sustain interest once the premise is fully established. Tim Kring, the creator of “Heroes,” set his show in the modern world but used the stylized aesthetic and imaginative sweep of graphic novels to create his own universe. “No Ordinary Family” tries to insert comic-book characters and predicaments into everyday Los Angeles. Yet its social structure is closer to Batman’s Gotham: the bad guys are not insurance executives or pension fund managers; they are fiendish supervillains who use their paranormal gifts to rob banks and kill people.


The Los Angeles Times says:

… Some scenes are not quite thought through (Jim jumping off a skyscraper to see whether he can fly), some of the dialogue too stale to be emotionally convincing. ("I missed … us"), but the show does have possibilities. Still, if it's going to work as a family drama, the characters are going to have to show themselves to be more than just poster children for depression, overwork and teenage anomie. …


The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:

… disappoints with its slow-moving plot and whiny characters. By now, viewers have seen enough superhero origin stories that they don't need everything spelled out, and yet that's exactly what "No Ordinary Family" does. … after the pilot, some viewers may be hard-pressed to give this less-than-super "Family" another chance.


The San Francisco Chronicle says:

… If it all seems a little silly and light, well, that's because it is. But there are very few series that families can watch together these days and "No Ordinary Family" looks like it can be one of them. …


HitFix says:

… seems to be testing its limits just as much as Chiklis and Benz are, and there are definitely weaknesses that creators Greg Berlanti and Jon Harmon Feldman will need to be careful of getting hurt by. … Berlanti and Feldman have for some reason chosen to over-explain everything … It’s all very redundant (if ABC had to ditch the talk-to-the-camera gimmick from one of its new dramas, I’d rather it had been this than “Detroit 1-8-7”), as these two good actors have to repeatedly come right out and tell the audience about feelings that they’ve just portrayed within the flow of the story. Everything in the family stories are underlined and in bold face, and the focus of the pilot is so heavily on the parents that the kids barely register as more than types. … Obviously, a high-concept show like this has to get a lot of exposition out of the way early, and it’s not a surprise that the creative team would lean on their two adult stars at the beginning. But if we get a few weeks in and the balance continues to be off - both between the hero and family parts of the show, and between the adults and kids - then that’s a problem super strength or speed may not be able to fix.


TV Squad says:

… The show's blandness is a disappointment, given that its premise seems sturdy enough. … 'No Ordinary Family' gives the proceedings an almost therapeutic air, and the ABC show also presumes that we'll care about whether these characters reconnect. But it's hard to buy into the origin stories of four almost-superheroes when the characters are vague types, not specific people. … 'No Ordinary Family' may yet soar, but viewers might need to call on their super-patience before the promising concept behind this disappointing drama begins to pay off.


The Washington Post says:

… cheesy but likable … But why must the "real-life" superhero story adhere to that demand for special effects, archenemies, laboratories and dark alleys? I'd be more content to watch the Powells figure out ways to help the middle class, defy recessionary economics and kick The Man in the pants. Turns out they're too white bread for that.


The Boston Herald says:

… super at capturing a middle-class family suffering from self-imposed Kryptonite poisoning. … In “No Ordinary Family,” you’ll find folks who need the crisis of superpowers to discover how extraordinary they are to each other.


The Boston Globe says:

… pleasant … The pilot is entertainingly lighthearted, but in a twist that I won’t spoil here, a serialized back story begins to surface that could push the show down a more convoluted path. I’m thinking of the ugly specter of “Heroes,’’ and the way its writers strained to create a Big Mythology and wound up with a meandering jumble. …


The Hollywood Reporter says:

… For Chiklis, the role is a neat blend of previous roles in "The Commish" and "Daddio." Viewers who know him mainly as crooked cop Vic Mackey from "The Shield" will marvel at how adroitly he reveals his softer side. The other roles are more one-dimensional, though that might simply be the result of constraints placed on a pilot that bears the burden of explaining the premise. …


Variety says:

… has fun with its premise but unevenly blends family drama with adventure. Fertile as the concept might be, then, the first tall building to leap will involve motivating enough viewers to keep the show airborne. … doesn't completely burst out of a dramatic mold that ABC has almost single-handedly overdone, and the shadow of "Heroes" lingers uncomfortably over the whole affair. So is it super? Not yet. But there's enough spinning around these extraordinary visitors to at least provoke a second visit.


8 p.m. Tuesday. ABC.











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    Readers Talkback

  • Sep 28, 2010 2:23:16 PM CDT

    Bummer

    by johnnyangel

    dude. I had hopes for this.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 2:30:19 PM CDT

    Im with Johnnyangel on this one

    by osamp1

    I was really hoping it was going to be some good tv time.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 2:31:46 PM CDT

    Too bad Julie Benz..from Angel to Dexter

    by skimn

    to the big time networks...and this is what she gets. And Chicklits better be happy he had a run with The Shield, because I doubt he'll get something of that calibur again.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 2:35:20 PM CDT

    You mean to tell me that Incredibles:The Series doesn't work?

    by gruntybear

    Shocker, there. Saw this sex bob-omb coming from 10,000 miles away.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 2:35:38 PM CDT

    saw it already...

    by coachaaron

    it was pretty crappy. i was excited by the previews, but after seeing the pilot i'm not really interested anymore.

    chik just needs to go back to the shield, i'd watch that any day.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 2:42:55 PM CDT

    Sadly, Herc likes "The Event"

    by kevmoley

    So can I really take his word on anything :) .. Prediction: The Event WILL be canceled!

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  • Sep 28, 2010 2:46:36 PM CDT

    Herc also didn't like Hawaii 5-0

    by kevmoley

    however, that show is kick ass..Prediction: Hawaii 5-0 will be renewed for another season!

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  • Sep 28, 2010 2:48:05 PM CDT

    notice how Herc only posted the negative stuff in Hitfix's revie

    by itrainmonkeys

    while there are a lot of positive things that the review mentions....Herc decided to only put the negative ones that agree with what he said. The Hitfix review also says: Benz and (specially) Chiklis are so good at playing the thrill of suddenly having super powers, and they’ve been given a pair of entertaining sidekicks in Autumn Reeser and Romany Malco, who get to live vicariously through their friends and marvel at how cool this all is. (Malco gets the pilot’s best lines and develops a great rapport with Chiklis.) “Heroes” very quickly made getting super powers seem like an affliction, but at least for the adults in this extraordinary family, it’s a lot of fun.The action scenes and FX shots aren’t fancy enough that anyone will mistake them for scenes from the trailer for “Green Lantern” (which Berlanti co-wrote), but they’re snazzy enough, and one fight scene in particular is better-staged than most of the comparable “Heroes” scenes. As a show about average people who become superheroes, “No Ordinary Family” is very promising.So what's up....why only post the stuff supporting your views?

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  • Sep 28, 2010 2:50:57 PM CDT

    Hey Herc, instead of taking an instant shit on a new series...

    by the_maltese_vulcan

    Why not give it a few episodes to flesh itself out and then decide? It's critics like you that get promising shows canned after just a couple episodes. The pilot wasn't bad for what it was....a pilot. I suppose if it was "Obama - The Series" you'd still be cleaning the jizz off your flatscreen before the opening credits were done rolling.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 3:00:15 PM CDT

    It might suck, but...

    by pappydog

    There's nothing else on at 8:00, so I'll give it a whirl.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 3:08:04 PM CDT

    not as bad as Herc thinks

    by titus05

    pilot was OK and definitely has potential...I liked the parking garage fight FX...I agree that shows should not be reviewed until at least 3 episodes in...not fair to rip a show after only 1 episode...especially since they shot the pilot months ago and have done some major re-tooling since (got rid of the Tate Donovan and asian female cop characters)...give shows a chance to suceed!!

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  • Sep 28, 2010 3:12:38 PM CDT

    Now for an alternative take...

    by socalactor

    While Herc may not have cared for much of the show, there is a great deal to enjoy.

    The origin story does seem fairly stock, but is different enough from things that we've seen recently in film and television that its not jarringly so. If anything, it leans more toward the old-school pulp origins than it does the modern "science-experiment-gone-wrong" approach that seems to be the genesis of a large number of characters.

    With regards to the story: There were some pacing issues and the inevitable angst at wondering exactly when as opposed to if the others' powers will emerge.

    I do have to say, however, that the reveal on JJ (Jimmy Bennett) with regards to his powerset was pretty well done, as you almost get through the episode thinking that he's going to be the shows version of Seth Green's "Wannabe".

    The potential for this show to deal with real teen issues is very strong. While having telepathy as a high schooler might sound like the bee's knees to start, take a moment and contemplate the unrelenting, withering comments that you kept to yourself in those hormonal years. Now imagine what others thought of you. Now imagine that you can hear what even high-schoolers deem inappropriate for conversation. Doesn't sound fun to me.

    To wit, Herc's review seems to lambast the show for doing what others have done successfully and doing it with slightly less panache. That much is fair. What remains to be seen is whether No Ordinary Family takes the time to tend what are, arguably, the seeds of a very good show, or lets them wither and die on the vine a la Heroes.

    The supporting cast is absolutely stellar.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 3:20:46 PM CDT

    too damn negative

    by darkpassenger

    the reviewers on this site are so damn negative, nearly every new show you guys say no to ive found somewhat decent, you guys really need some new reviewers, everyone is like a broken record with nothing new to say. i swear if it isnt reality tv they automaticly hate it, herc and hercules are so lame get someone else. they just parrot the other reviews, especially if theres other reviews in the same article from legit places. Running wilde, lonestar, raising hope, better with you, my generation. i think they dont even watch supernatural, so that automaticly throws out all credibility. (for me at least)

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  • Sep 28, 2010 3:23:58 PM CDT

    cont.

    by darkpassenger

    Running wilde, lonestar, raising hope, better with you, my generation. all shows i thought were decent

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  • Sep 28, 2010 3:32:04 PM CDT

    This HAS to be better than THE EVENT at least

    by spyguy

    So this is a show that families can actually sit down and watch together? Yeah, sounds absolutely terrible.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 3:36:13 PM CDT

    Is there really a need to deconstruct superheroes anymore?

    by ronald raygun

    I think The Tick, Watchmen and The Incredibles have said it all.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 3:39:46 PM CDT

    Ronald Raygun

    by socalactor

    I don't think that's what this show is after. If they were trying to deconstruct the genre, then these characters might not be quite so homespun and genuine-seeming.

    I think its more likely that this show will look to capitalize on the current super-hero mania, with a decided ABC flavor. By that, I mean that they will spend a great deal of time on "personal" stories, with superheroics providing the backdrop, as opposed to the other way around, which was where Heroes failed.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 3:53:42 PM CDT

    Is It Like Se7en Meets Silence Of The Lambs?

    by media messiah

    Just asking?

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  • Sep 28, 2010 5:16:10 PM CDT

    Dammit

    by kuryakin

    Defying Gravity wasn't a dramedy


    I hate the word dramedy being used at all but goddammit at least if you're going to use it, use it properly. There was no comic element to DG so why use dramedy? I mean what's wrong with using the word 'drama'?


    If anything, DG was a melodrama, that's the reason I lost interest in it: all the fucking talk about feelings and all that soapy bullshit, Jesus Christ what a snoozefest.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 6:12:13 PM CDT

    I'll give it a shot. Monday and Thursday-

    by mr. profit

    Have become so over populated that Tuesday and Wednesday have been abandoned it seems. So I'll watch. Oh and to everyone who hated on "Hawaii Five-0", the ratings in the 18-49 demo only dropped 10% in episode 2. But with the Live + 7 data for the premiere, it went up considerably. CBS will definitely renew it, especially since it only lost 1 million viewers from episode 1 to 2... Meanwhile, The Event dropped a lot in total viewers. And Lone Star? Canceled as of today...

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  • Sep 28, 2010 6:25:22 PM CDT

    this is too bad. I really like Julie Benz alot.

    by beefywhore

    I'm rooting for her to get a big breakout roll. seems like she always gets secondary rolls on pretty good shows. she needs to be a leading lady.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 6:34:45 PM CDT

    I'll give it a shot anyways

    by arianeb

    What have I got to lose? I lost 6 shows last season that I regularly watched (24, Lost, Heroes, Mercy, Flash Forward and Dollhouse). No new drama has yet to compel me enough to watch regularly except Lone Star, which got canceled, and The Whole Truth, which will probably soon follow. Crappy new shows have been getting great ratings this fall, so who knows? Worst case scenario, I watch a lot less TV this season.
    It worries me that I will watch even less a year from now. Smallville is on its final season, Fringe is in danger, and House ratings are dropping with Hugh Laurie's contract being up at the end of the year.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 6:57:11 PM CDT

    "Dramedy" = Code for "ABC show Herc doesn't like"

    by paul t. ryan

    Dude, you're like a broken record.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 7:14:05 PM CDT

    was hoping herc had seen epi 2

    by brabon300

    cuz we all saw the pilot onlineand benz did her best acting lying dead in that bathtub

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  • Sep 28, 2010 7:15:24 PM CDT

    I watched the preview also... *SPOILER*

    by discogodfather

    Kinda generic but has potential. I'm glad they're not sticking with the "mockumentary"/"talking to the camera" thing as a regular gimmick. However, I was kinda liking the idea of the son not having a power, would have added an interesting twist. Instead, it was the one power I saw coming a mile away. The pilot had opportunities to surprise but didn't take them. I hope the series doesn't make the same mistakes.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 7:21:53 PM CDT

    Not bad so far

    by memento108

    Not nearly as crappy as Herc and the other reviews have said. People expect way too fucking much

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  • Sep 28, 2010 7:55:21 PM CDT

    Ok show, too bad it won't last

    by jazzylg

    Too many cliches, and too many haters to last. It's cool but a little stale. A disney owned network should have marvel characters on it, like The Time/warner cbs owned CW with Smallville. Smallville set the standard (10 years on tv for a superhero show) that will never be beat!

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  • Sep 28, 2010 7:56:50 PM CDT

    And..

    by jazzylg

    crappy reviews in a pilot means advertisers will avoid this, which means cancellation!

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  • Sep 28, 2010 8:01:44 PM CDT

    I haven't finished watching

    by inactionman

    I am recording it for later. From what I saw it wasn't as bad as the EV3NT but, it seems to pretty much be for kids. Like something that was origionally pitched to ABCFamily but turned out a little better than expected and got bumped to network.

    Given that it airs at 8 I think it will stay geared to 12 yearolds but, it doesn't speak to my inner 12 yearold. One more episode and I'm probably out.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 8:02:39 PM CDT

    You know, I kind of liked it

    by itchy

    Had fun watching it with my 10 year old. Much better than I expected based on Herc's review.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 8:03:35 PM CDT

    Probably not a good Idea to

    by inactionman

    premier this the same day IM2 comes out on DVD. A big chunk of your core audience may forget to tune in.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 8:10:17 PM CDT

    Uh, Herc... A question.

    by rabidfnark

    That Buffy: Season 8 motion comic you've got advertised at the bottom there... any of the original cast return to voice it? I'm assuming you would know (already checked amazon...zero help there). Anyway, sorry to interrupt the flow, here.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 8:15:17 PM CDT

    Why did they screw this up?

    by jimbojones123

    No Ordinary Family drops a "dumb@$$" in the first 30 seconds. Why?  Was it lacking credibility without it?  Did it need to be that edgy?  So much for a return to some wholesome prime time TV. Dang shame really. 

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  • Sep 28, 2010 8:30:41 PM CDT

    JimboJones

    by inactionman

    You missed that daughter calling the other girl a "Whore" and implying that she was a slut. Family hour indeed.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 8:41:28 PM CDT

    Aww...poor thing.

    by midgarddragon

    Didn't send you a big enough paycheck to promote this one? They can't all be made by millionaires. Oh well, will still be a good show, will continue to watch and laugh at you for being a greedy little fuckwit.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 8:44:28 PM CDT

    One thing I hope young ladies learned from this show

    by itchy

    - if you really like a boy in high school and want to keep him, you better get on that dick.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 8:51:38 PM CDT

    Herc is part of the Bayified ADD generation

    by grammaton cleric binks

    If he doesn't like the first episode, then the rest must be garbage right? It seems that every talkbacker knows this. The only one who doesn't is Herc himself.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 8:52:26 PM CDT

    One thing I will agree with Herc on is that

    by grammaton cleric binks

    when I saw this the first thing that popped into my mind was Daddio.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 9:04:57 PM CDT

    I liked it

    by br1947

    Can't believe something with an Angel tie in offends Herc. He's loved far, far ,far worse.I'll give it another few weeks at least, I liked the Nightcrawler villain, curious to see where they go with it

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  • Sep 28, 2010 9:05:48 PM CDT

    I actually sorta enjoyed it

    by rsanta74

    It's no more or less ham-fisted than Modern Family. ABC family shows all have that sort of wholesome/corny quality to it. I'm okay with that though. ABC/Disney has never been known to produce family shows that are anything other than cheesy & shallow. If you can accept that.... The show is enjoyable enough for what it is.

    BAD:
    - ABC/Disney cribs a bit too much off of its Pixar & Marvel properties. From the Frozone wannabe black guy sidekick to the Kitty Pryde references, you can feel the corporate hands at play here.
    - ABC gave away far too much of the show in that earlier promo teaser
    - (Mostly) Predictable & not too deep
    - Boo to ABC for scheduling this against tween girl friendly Glee.

    GOOD:
    - Stephen Collins turn as the evil corporate douche did surprise me a bit. Having seen him on 7th Heaven for so long, I was fooled into thinking that he only played good guys. Should've seen these twist and the teleporter one coming, but I didn't. Kudos to ABC for keeping some of its cards hidden & out of the teasers.
    - Smart move by ABC in keeping the powers fairly budget friendly. Superhero movies are expensive enough. Trying to bring that to TV.... Near impossible. Thankfully, TV has been doing stuff like super strength, speed, & telepathy long enough that VFX studios can do it all for a cost effective amount.
    - Smarter move by having it as a lead in for Dancing with the Stars. I can't expect that any unexpected viewership that it gains would last beyond DwtS' finale, but it at least has that tween boy, "I hate Glee" market locked.
    - Some occasionally fun & funny bits that hit when you don't expect them.
    - A solid, if not spectacular, cast. Chiklis is in his element here. He's doing his Fantastic Four thing, which he was decent enough at, on the network that first gave him a chance in the criminally underappreciated "The Commish." Benz isn't too bad here. I actually buy her as an intellectual type now more than I would have 10 years ago. It would've been nice to see her strip down again, as she did on Desperate Housewives last year, but any Julie Benz is better than none. As for the kids.... Kay Pannabaker is okay. I still think that her sister Danielle is a bit more likeable and photogenic, but that's just me. The brother.... sucks. Kinda worthless on this show, atm. I hope that he goes the way of that other daughter, turned porn star, from Family matters. Just let him go away... NOW. The back guy? He is what he is. He's doing the same character that he does in every other TV and movie appearance. Can't blame him for sticking to what works.
    - Room for growth. That the writers actually have some direction for the show, based on the last scenes, is encouraging enough for me to tune in again.
    - Smartest move? Filling that genre void. Heroes is gone. Smallville is ending. The superhero genre may be played out, but it still has its fans. With now other show to fill the gap, it's nice to see that at least somebody is making an attempt - even if its ABC.


    ABC used to produce this sort of formulaic, but enjoyable family stuff for years. Recently, that has kinda tapered off thanks to procedurals and "reality" shows. "The Commish" was cheesy, to be sure, and nowhere near as deep or enduring as "NYPD Blue", but it still had its redeeming qualities. That's what I'm seeing here. Is this going to be THE superhero show we want? No. Is it the one we need? Maybe. It's harmless & wholesome fun. Seeing as how everything is so grim & darm, at both the movies and in real life, I'm willing to accept a phone in live action Incredibles than another Heroes-level disaster.

    Take it for what it is. No Ordinary Family is sorbette. It's tasty, but not designed to be anything more than a sweet palette cleanser.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 9:35:17 PM CDT

    rsanta74

    by hercules

    I bet you a dollar this is gone before Smallville.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 9:36:40 PM CDT

    would never actually watch this dreck just

    by gidney

    from the previews but wouldn't it have been neat if the younger kid spent some time exploring the "dark side" of his powers and evidence budding supervillain tendencies while the older kid sometimes helps him, othertimes the parents depending on what's in it for her. Life becomes one big game of keeping each other and themselves human and in check.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 9:58:58 PM CDT

    And by the way ... Detroit 187 was pretty

    by itchy

    good tonight as well. Maybe I'm just in a good mood today or something. Who knows. I'm sure I'll be taking a liquid shit on all of these shows by Thanksgiving.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 10:16:40 PM CDT

    I was kinda trepedatious until...

    by tailhook

    Hercules hated it. If he hates it it usually means its not centered around his demographic.... shows for pre-teen girls so he'll have something to talk with them about.

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  • Sep 28, 2010 11:22:49 PM CDT

    Afternoon Delight with Julie Benz

    by psyklop

    Yeah that was fun to watch with the kids.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 12:33:09 AM CDT

    One thing better than Heroes...

    by gislef_crow

    The teleporter fight scene. That's what Hiro should have been doing for five damn years. For what it was, a relatively low-budget TV fight between two guys, it was on a par with the Nightcrawler scene in X-Men 2.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 12:57:09 AM CDT

    what? this show was good? wtf

    by chainsaw_shawn

    Julie benz damn id like to smash that, she is super hot. chiklis is one of my favorite actors and is totally convincing as the father. The sons powers at first seemed corny but then i remembered that in theory alot of things have mathimatical proofs and designs. I mean science, trajectories, stocks, robotics, engineering, computer technologies? I mean he could be rich if he played his card right. I know i would use that ability for! lol. Counting cards in vegas would be a snap!

    I did like the teleporter villan, so it shows that they have a group of bad guys out there. but i dont understand something the bullets was they hollow point or diamond tipped. it seemed that from a distance he seemed invulnerable but yet up close the bullet made him bleed. i dont get it.

    You give them powers but there is a limit but you dont exactly explain it in the first show? why not? Saving that for sweeps ABC. you bastards. this better not crash like heroes.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 12:58:38 AM CDT

    I liked it

    by mathieas

    Not everything has to be some moody depressing overly intense self-flagellating drama stocked with 'flawed' characters with situational ethics.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 2:05:07 AM CDT

    I thought it was pretty good as well

    by faith77

    Sure it wasn't Heroes season 1, but was still better or just as good as 90% of 2010's best. Definitely better than Chase and The Event so far.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 6:46:55 AM CDT

    Not awful

    by jdb1972

    However, that Pittsburgh reviewer who said it was too slow is on crack. The beginning, especially, was too quick. Needs a good deal of polishing, but having Chiklis and Benz to anchor the cast (plus the two sidekicks) is a huge advantage.

    Oh, and Lone Star? Sucks. Completely.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 7:12:18 AM CDT

    Where is the lawsuit?

    by parissun

    Marvel for Fantastic Four or the creators of The Incredibles should sue the creators of this show.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 7:33:56 AM CDT

    SpyGuy Says Yes to ABC's Enjoyable New Superhero Dramedy

    by spyguy

    I'm sorry, but NO ORDINARY FAMILY seems like a perfectly decent show. Not groundbreaking, but at least there's finally something to watch on Tuesday nights.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 8:19:42 AM CDT

    Did they recut the pilot?

    by the mcpoyle clan

    I thought I had read that somewhere.I generally don't care for voice overs, so if they abandon that, and can go beyond the typical clichés, it might be fine. Chiklis, and esp. Benz are very watchable, and the Collins twist bought it some additional time.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 9:06:43 AM CDT

    Awful Title Doesn't help.

    by cookylamoo

    There's a reason Superman wasn't titled "Not Your Average Reporter".

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  • Sep 29, 2010 9:25:46 AM CDT

    I was expecting the last shot to be of the pilot

    by big jim

    rising from his watery "grave" as some mutated super-powered monster.The show has it's problems. Found it to be dumbed down with the narration (hopefully that won't continue) and stuff like Julie Benz being a "research scientist". Seems kind of vague, like it was a placeholder until they could figure out the exact, and correct, title for the job she does. Also thought Chiklis' character was kind of dumb. Testing powers can be done without putting your life on the line. Gradually work your way up to jumping off buildings and having your buddy shoot you. Maybe start with jumping off a flight of stairs, or having Romany Malco shoot you with a slingshot - if it fails, it hurst but isn't fatal.The show isn't as bad as Hercules claims (nor is it a "dramedy", but I think he does that just to wind us up). Unlike Herc, I can see potential here. Whether they capitalize on that potential, or squander it, remains to be seen.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 10:00:35 AM CDT

    Glad to see a show where people with powers-

    by mr. profit

    Aren't bitching about them and are in awe of themselves.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 10:47:03 AM CDT

    In the minority...

    by mr_h

    While the show isn't perfect with all the cliches especially when they were getting their powers, it did have some good moments.
    Give it a few episodes before saying how bad/good it is. It has potential, just have to wait to see where they go with it.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 10:56:34 AM CDT

    Simple rule: NO VOICEOVER NARRATION.

    by kabong

    Show, don't tell.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 11:05:46 AM CDT

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  • Sep 29, 2010 11:28:53 AM CDT

    NOF 3.1 rating

    by faith77

    Not to bad for going up against Glee and NCIS. It was able to soundly beat the Biggest Loser reality show.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 11:50:59 AM CDT

    NOF was a fun pilot.

    by memyselfandny_aaan

    Fast paced story with good action and drama. It had generic stuff but it was still fun.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 11:58:00 AM CDT

    @Herc

    by rsanta74

    Didn't say that it wouldn't be gone before the end of S1. What I did suggest is that NOF is harmless genre fun. It doesn't take any bold risks, but it doesn't offend the senses either. This is generally the sort of middle of the road approach that most ABC shows have taken in the past.

    TBH, this is generally the sort of show that ABC would premiere on the ABC Family network. There, it would stand a chance of lasting at least 3 or 4 seasons. Here, on ABC proper and against Glee, NOF was dead long before it hit the air.

    And, if we're taking bets, how about we wager whether or not NOF outlasts the critically acclaimed failure Lone Star? Can't do much worse than gone after 2, right? =)

    I'm not defending a show whose pilot doesn't strive to be anything more than average and derivative. However, given the current state of genre programming on network TV, and what passes for dramedy, NOF is harmless.

    Better suited toward ABC Family? Sure. Destroying modern TV as we know it? Hardly.

    Wanna know how bad it could get, Herc? I suggest you go back into your video vault and watch stuff like Night Man, Witchblade, Heroes S4, MANTIS, Misfits of Science, or Mutant X?

    No Ordinary Family may itself be a bit ordinary, but it is certainly no Mutant X.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 12:05:29 PM CDT

    @ParisSun

    by rsanta74

    ABC is owned by Disney. Disney owns Marvel. Disney owns Pixar. Lawsuit? Try PROFIT! =)

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  • Sep 29, 2010 12:31:18 PM CDT

    10.5 million viewers.

    by mr. profit

    OK start. If it doesn't erode then it will last longer than "Smallville".

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  • Sep 29, 2010 5:07:04 PM CDT

    As someone who dislikes 99% of the shows on network TV

    by yamato

    I have to say I enjoyed it and plan to watch it next week.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 6:06:29 PM CDT

    This was really good

    by thefifthcylon

    I'm shocked to see that someone could say something bad about this show. It has a shit-ton of potential. It's easily the best new pilot of the season (Shit my Dad says was a disappointment, The Event was uneventful, and Undercovers was...ok)

    My whole family really enjhoyed it, and it's been getting great buzz on the various podcasts I listen to and all my co-workers who saw it liked it, too. This review is the first I've heard anyone say anything negative about it.

    And the complaint that "it's not funny" ---- so what? It's not a comedy. Shows like this and Heroes, and Buffy, and Lost, and Flashforward, etc may have humerous moments and laughs thrown in here and there,but they aren't sitcoms. They aren't there to make us laugh. I go in for the stories. If I get a chuckle on top of it, so much the better.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 6:20:33 PM CDT

    Watched it and...

    by marshal_lannes

    ...enjoyed it, particularly Chiklis and Benz. The potential is there for a good show.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 6:29:30 PM CDT

    I like it too

    by psynapse

    Sure it clunks in spots but damn near every pilot does (not you my dear departed Lost, not you). I smell some haterade on your breath Herc.....

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  • Sep 29, 2010 9:13:29 PM CDT

    Didnt' watch it but the title alone is awful.

    by orbots commander

    'No Ordinary Family'? It's like calling The Incredibles, 'A Family That Can Do Kinda' Neat Stuff'.

    Off topic, but this brings to mind a neat animated show from when I was a kid (or maybe it's just nostalgia and it was really bad), The Bionic Six, about a family of, well, you know...
    Now THAT'S a title.

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  • Sep 29, 2010 11:01:40 PM CDT

    Lol

    by jazzylg

    10.5 million viewers.
    by Mr. Profit Sep 29th, 2010
    12:31:18 PM
    OK start. If it doesn't erode then it will last longer than "Smallville". lol

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  • Sep 30, 2010 1:36:32 AM CDT

    Thank god for decent family entertainment!

    by ceejaynightwing

    And screw the reviewers, period! What's not to like in this show? Julie Benz (Great) George Chiklis (Great), Superpowers (Great), Supervillains (great), Drama, Obstacles, Conflicts, Love, responsibility, coming of age, Deception, Loyalty and secrets to be revealed.. sounds promising to me! Add some pretty cool Special Effects shots and the best Superhero fight on TV since scarfaced Peter Petrelli, serious sword weilding Hiro and Sylar disguised as President Nathan Petrelli went at it in the alternate future from season 1 of Heroes! Not sure we all saw the same version of the pilot but what I saw was well entertaining and had barrel loads of potential despite the origin cliches! Look forward to seeing this as much as the next Supernatural and Fringe!

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