Sept. 20, 2010, 1:27 p.m. CST
Sept. 20, 2010, 1:38 p.m. CST
The script was top of the BLACK LIST of 2008... great movies needs great music
Sept. 20, 2010, 1:54 p.m. CST
But not as good as if Clint reunited Pop Will Eat Itself...
Sept. 20, 2010, 1:58 p.m. CST
I thought Moon was great and Mansell's music was a great asset, I'm excited to see how Source Code turns out.
Sept. 20, 2010, 2:10 p.m. CST
by krull rules
one of the most disappointing movies I can remember... SOURCE CODE script is very good...
Sept. 20, 2010, 2:42 p.m. CST
Did anyone know this? He has art in his genes. He's gonna be a director to watch... he should be around for a long time. Moon showed great potential.
Sept. 20, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST
And therefore, talent or no, he's had his career handed to him on a silver platter. You'd have to have negative skills to not make that work. In any case, I loved Moon and look forward to more from him.
Sept. 20, 2010, 3:14 p.m. CST
Mansell really phoned it in compared to Requiem and Fountain, which were both so brilliant. Biggest disappointment of 2009 (I was really looking forward to it). :-(
Sept. 20, 2010, 3:20 p.m. CST
end of line.
Sept. 20, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST
Sept. 20, 2010, 3:28 p.m. CST
yep, rated it that highly. Worth it alone for the shot of him screaming when he's heading back to Earth. Sent shivers down my spine. And bizarrely enough, my favourite soundtrack too. Liked it so much i strolled around the streets of Korea listening to it on my iPod and again....hairs stood up. Love it.
Sept. 20, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST
...and always good to see Clint Mansell so well respected when you look back at Pop Will Eat Itself (which were cool back in the day but haven't aged well).
Sept. 20, 2010, 4:11 p.m. CST
2 things -Has a release date been set for his Black Swan score yet? -Why the hell is MOON only available as an import or digitally through iTunes.
Sept. 20, 2010, 4:50 p.m. CST
luckily, he got creative genes, and luckily, he was probably in an environment that nurtured them and he probably got access to a lot of things most of us wouldn't. there is no denying his talent, and i respect his stance on making a name for himself and keeping his 'real' name...but you do have to wonder if any other schlub with his talent and eye would be where he is if it were not for the fact that he has connections. even if he doesn't use them - or often realize he was getting them- he has them. no one is going to deny David Bowie's son the chance to do much of anything.
Sept. 20, 2010, 5:19 p.m. CST
Moon could've been one huge blue/green screen affair, but it's not and it's better for it.
Sept. 20, 2010, 5:20 p.m. CST
i knew about them, but then i saw the making of featurette and was very impressed. PRACTICAL FX IN MY SCI-FI PLEASE!
Sept. 20, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST
of COURSE he's going to be introduced to people and have opportunities he wouldn't otherwise have. The same thing happens in every business. But I think in Hollywood, so much money is riding on films that I don't think they give much of a shit who's son you are, especially in the long-term. If anything, it means the people holding the money are probably keeping an ever closer eye on you. If you look at indie films, a lot of well connected little shits make 'indies' where they're able to get name actors and million dollar budgets by mooching off of who their parents are, yet the movies go nowhere and neither does the little shit's career. They might be hipster indie darlings on the festival circuit, but the studios and big agencies don't give a fuck if you can't make something that connects with audiences enough to get asses in the seats. You guys are confused, INVESTMENT BANKING is the industry that you can remain absolutely useless, fuck up the world's economy, and still coast to multi-million dollar bonuses on your family name. Oh, and politics. <p>Besides that, Duncan Jones is 39 years old. I'm pretty sure he paid his dues in commercials for RSA films over the last ten years or so before getting to finally make a feature. And it sounds like even that wasn't a sure thing. To put it in perspective, Neill Blomkamp, who also came from visual effects and commercials, is 10 years younger than Jones and he got a film made last year with 6 times the budget and, from what I know, he basically came up with no real connections inside the industry. As crazy as it sounds, Hollywood filmmaking is still somewhat of a meritocracy. I look at Moon and, as a filmmaker used to working with almost no budget, I still can't fucking believe he got all of that up on the screen for $5 million. The set alone must have cost a fortune. Besides that, it's a GREAT MOVIE... he stepped up to the plate, hit it out of the park, and made an amazing little sci-fi film. I hope he does the same with Source Code. Oh, and to top it all off, he's a very decent, down-to-earth human being.
Sept. 20, 2010, 6:13 p.m. CST
Sept. 20, 2010, 6:17 p.m. CST
...the science is a little whacky. If anyone has a problem with the flick, it'll be because of that. It gets a bit more metaphysical than you want it to. That said, it's brilliantly written. Should be a good film but probably won't play wide. That is all.
Sept. 20, 2010, 6:28 p.m. CST
...was good enough that it firmly established Duncan Jones' talent for me. It wasn't a matter of "well, with a bigger budget and a better cast, he'll reach his potential." No, Moon was a solid movie in every way, from acting to score, and so I don't see him as a slowly blooming director - he's already proved himself. I am excited at the possibility of him directing another quality movie.
Sept. 20, 2010, 6:41 p.m. CST
he'd really like a stab at Neuromancer.
Sept. 20, 2010, 9:16 p.m. CST
by Mr Lucas
Dated? Well it's certainly of its time, but I still listen to This Is The Hour and Cure For Sanity (the latter is one of my top albums of all time, but that may have a lot to do with the age I was when it came out and the associated memories).<P> Anyway, I thought Moon was pretty good, so I'm eagerly anticipating Source Code.
Sept. 20, 2010, 9:28 p.m. CST
Sept. 21, 2010, 12:47 a.m. CST
Sept. 21, 2010, 4:48 a.m. CST
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Sept. 21, 2010, 6:21 a.m. CST
One of the reason Duncan Jones mannaged to make the movie for such a low cost is because the walls of space station sets were made of cartoline. Cartoline! The production design was very clever in disguising the limitations. Also, the fact the sets were so weak and woobies came about as a good thing, because it allowed Duncan Jones and his camera crew team to make cut outs in the sets so they could place the camera. They did made a 360 degree set because Duncan Jones wanted to explore the inherent claustrophobic feel of such a close set, and have that influence the filming style. But eventually Jones had to break the 4th wall to avoid repetition of angles. He says all that in his very informative audio comentary, or rather, the two audio comentaries. Damn, i love that movie. Little trivia: the plants that Sam Rockwell care for in the movie are named after famous directors who made SF movies: Ridley (Scott), Stanley (Kubrick), George (Lucas) and Kathryn (Bigelow ... you know, STRANGE DAYS).
Sept. 21, 2010, 6:30 a.m. CST
A proper SF movie made by people who love SF for people who ove SF. People who think that SF starts and stops with Star Wars can move along, there's nothing for them here.
Sept. 21, 2010, 6:35 a.m. CST
... i hope they say the same thing about JJ Abrams, because the later is the son of two Hollywood insiders, his father was once a big shot executive at Paramount. And Abrams didn't changed his name to hide from his father's clouth. And unlike Duncan Jones, Abrams was born ito the business.<br><br>Duncan Jones could be more easily accused if he had became a musician like his father David Bowie. But that didn't happen. And Bowie is hardly a powerful figure in Hollywood, quite the contrary. And Duncan Jones doesn't go about using his real name, Zowie Bowie, he uses a pseudonimum on porpose to not coast and get recognized as the Son Of Bowie.
Sept. 21, 2010, 9:10 a.m. CST
I know it was made for only $5m, but how on Earth can any well marketed film in this day and age only make $9.65m global? When you take away marketing costs and exhibitors fee (40%) it barely broke even. I'm amazed Duncan Jones is getting another chance to make a film. Most other film makers wave their feature career goodbye after such a bomb, but Jones is getting another shot? Maybe "Daddy's money" is helping to pay for Source Code.
Sept. 21, 2010, 9:24 a.m. CST
I just picked up the blu-ray cause of this very conversation! Gonna listen to the commentaries tonight. Don't know why I didn't pick it up sooner, I already have the soundtrack. I 'twittered'(?) I'd guess you call it with Jones a few times, once asking him if he was still doing the Q&A he mentioned but never followed up on at the Arclight last summer and he always responded. If I were him, I probably wouldn't even have a twitter account, but in everything I've seen or heard of him, he seems like a pretty decent person. Honestly, I have yet to meet someone on the inside who is a total douche, except for about 80% of the people I've met (and worked with) in the television business. Primadonna assholes across the board, often without the talent to back it up. <p>As far as nepotism, I'd say that being Bowie's son definitely made it easier for Jones to get in directing commercials, but then again, I don't know what kind of work he did in film school, which I believe he attended much later than people normally do. His talent could have been immediately apparent, and sometimes that's all it takes, thank God. Abrams, on the other hand, seems to have been groomed for the business since day one, and it doesn't surprise me he has well-connected parents.
Sept. 21, 2010, 10:05 a.m. CST
is because Moon showed the guy has a shitload of talent to others in the business. So name actors want to work with him. Very often, that's all it takes is to be able to get a name attached, they put a price on that name, and then he's able to make his movie for that price. How do you think James Gray keeps getting movies made? In this case, Jones got Gyllenhaal for Source Code, Gyllenhaal is worth X amount of money to financiers, so Jones makes Source Code for that amount. Simple math.
Sept. 21, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST
Exactly. And really, try listening to MOON's comentaries and the making of doc. In the doc there's a moment they talk about the accident that Duncan suffered when he fell from a scafolding during a shot. The guy who shot the doc then points to a cellotape attached to a filming equipment which had scribbed on it "What would Michael Bay do?" and somebody below wrote in reply "He would watch his step". That made me fall to the floor laughing!
Sept. 21, 2010, 10:22 a.m. CST
... why i love movies. When i was watchig the movie, mesmerized by it's awesomeness, a though keep repeating in my head: "This is why i love movies, this is why i love cinema". And indeed it is. It's for movies like MOON that i suffer and arrows and slings of outragious fortune of suffering through bad movies and whole bad film years. So that ocasionally a truly good one comes up and makes it all worthwhile. Thank you, Duncan Jones, thank you. Keep up the good work.
Sept. 21, 2010, 10:31 a.m. CST
MOON was not well marketed, not in the sense of mass marketed. The marketing f MOON did a quality job, but they didn't go a massive marketing campagn. Because they didn'«t had the cash t do so. Because the movie was not sponsored by a big studio. Indies can sometime get massive mass marketing if they get sponsored by a big studio throuygh their "indie" branchs. It didn't happened with MOON. In fact, very few people believed that movie, expect their own filmmakers and the SF fans who watched it and understood what a good movie it is. But the movie was ignorared. Let me give you this example: In my country Portugal, the movie was only released in ONE SINGLE THEATER SCREEN. One in the whole country, and we have hundreds of screens, which serves quite well a population of 10 millions. And whoever was in charge of distribution, only put up the movie in one single screen in the whole country. If anything, MOON is being dsiscovered in DVD and blu-ray, which is a too often repeated case this days. But at least the movie is getting known. Small mercies indeed.
Sept. 21, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST
Sept. 21, 2010, 10:49 a.m. CST
I am awaiting his second film with eager anticipation. Along with Chris Nolan and one or two others, Jones is fighting against the Abrams and Bays of the film world. What the hell would we do without them? Genre Cinema would be completely dead.<P>As for nepotism - complete bullshit. If anything Jones was actually at a DISADVANTAGE being the son of a pop icon. Its a cliché - pop star's son wants to be a big time film director. Being David Bowie's son may have opened doors, but he had to slave away making commercials for almost ten years to prove himself worthy. He did not have it handed to him on a silver platter.
Sept. 21, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST
You said it.
Sept. 21, 2010, 11:14 a.m. CST
It's for talkbacks like this, and for seeing so many people being so positive and supportive of a true talented filmmaker and a truly good movie, that i keep returning here, despiste the constant disapointments. Good job, guys. I bow to you.
Sept. 22, 2010, 7:34 a.m. CST
The fx and design guy from the movie has been blogging about his work, it's interesting and funny: http://gavinrothery.posterous.com/
Oct. 14, 2010, 10:03 a.m. CST
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