Peggy receives a romantic gift that could compromise her career.Episode titles: 4.1 Public Relations 4.2 Christmas Comes But Once A Year 4.3 The Good News 4.4 The Rejected 4.5 The Chrysanthemum and the Sword 4.6 Waldorf Stories 4.7 The Suitcase 4.8 The Summer Man 4.9 The Beautiful Girls 4.10 Hands and Knees 4.11 Chinese Wall 4.12 Blowing Smoke 4.13 Tomorrowland "Boardwalk Empire": 9 p.m. Sunday. HBO. "Mad Men": 10 p.m. Sunday. AMC. "The Venture Bros.": 11:30 p.m. Sunday. CN.
Sept. 19, 2010, 12:56 p.m. CST
Sept. 19, 2010, 12:57 p.m. CST
that I've always thought MAD MEN was leading to a hot sapphic tryst between Peggy and Joan. That sexual tension has been brewing since the very first episode.
Sept. 19, 2010, 1:01 p.m. CST
We have no idea whose lesbian hijinks you're talking about.
Sept. 19, 2010, 1:10 p.m. CST
and her new hippy girlfriend go to amctv.com people they have a clip of the scene
Sept. 19, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST
NOTHING about the show would seem to point towards Joan having lesbianic tendencies. The episode with the lesbian roommate from season one pretty much quashed it right from the start, to the eternal sadness of men everywhere. Certainly not with Peggy.
Sept. 19, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST
She has pretty much vetoed any chance of seeing her get the girls out. Expect this trend to continue until the scripts stop coming her way. She is very hot right now, but give it a few years. She will be naked somewhere at some point.
Sept. 19, 2010, 1:48 p.m. CST
we've already seen her getting attention from the ladies...
Sept. 19, 2010, 2 p.m. CST
she's fat. looking at her shape through those dresses might be hot, but when you take them away it's just fat drooping down everywhere. just look at any old painting, or that porn video of Marilyn when she was 16. it's just sad.
Sept. 19, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST
I would love to know how much a rolling stones song is. Anyone know how to find out? I say it probably cost 120,000. I read an interview with someone who claimed a led zeplin tune set them back 250,000. That's insane. I wish I could remember who the interview was with..
Sept. 19, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST
But will it be too expensive to use on the DVD? I've no doubt it's the priciest piece of music they've used so far.
Sept. 19, 2010, 3 p.m. CST
Someone finds those business cards Duck gave Peggy in the previous episode
Sept. 19, 2010, 3:06 p.m. CST
An acclaimed show like Mad Men using an artist's music is good publicity for that artist. So they could have gotten Satisfaction for very little or nothing at all. However, if a company wanted to use Satisfaction in a commercial for a new product, then it would likely cost around several hundred grand at least.
Sept. 19, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST
buy a clue what do you call portia derossi chely wright lindsay lohan michelle rodriguez brandi carlisle jennifer knapp stephanie miller? hosebags? oh yaeah that portia is "frakkin ugly" right!!! i think your an uptight homophope and its your kind of genes that will be eradicated
Sept. 19, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST
most of the women in porn are bisexual which for simple minded people like yourself means they go with men AND women duh!!!
Sept. 19, 2010, 3:28 p.m. CST
she just doesnt dress up as much as joan she loks mousy but is she wore makeup and beautiful dresses trust me im sure she could set ails wagging
Sept. 19, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST
by Voice O. Reason
Congratulations on being gay. I hope coming out of the closet like this hasn't compromised your life in any way.
Sept. 19, 2010, 3:39 p.m. CST
NO licensed music goes for "little or nothing at all" when it comes to the intellectual property rights. Even hit shows have to pay up to the license holders like everyone else. There's no "We're a number one show, so YOU should be thanking US for using your song!" mentality. They probably paid around 50-100K for the rights to use that song, which is why they used it so prominently last week. The rights will probably continue through to DVD and BLU-RAY releases, but in fifteen years expect that music to be replaced whenever the new technology releases it. Lots of music (especially from the Universal peeps, see NORTHERN EXPOSURE and QUANTUM LEAP) gets replaced once it comes down to paying musicians to get permission to release the rights back on a new format.
Sept. 19, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST
And tell me you would not destroy that shit on a nightly basis.
Sept. 19, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST
*SLAP* CALM DOWN... You're being hysterical.<P>Naming names from the top 5 percent of lesbian women in the world doesn't prove your point, it only serves to prove his (irrelevant and misguided as it may be).<P> They are the exceptions, not the rule.
Sept. 19, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST
one of my clients is a gay bar in hollywood...every friday night its lesbians night...trust me when i say...its schwing time
Sept. 19, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST
I bet classic rock acts are much more amenable to letting TV shows use their music and licensing it for DVDs and Soundtracks than they used to be. It's one of the few guaranteed sources of revenue they have left, now that all you geeks are stealing your music off the Internet. Bob Dylan, for example let NCIS have an unreleased 60's track called "California" for on-air and for the subsequent DVD and Soundtrack CD.
Sept. 19, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST
I HOPE you're right about it being the business cards. I love shit like that coming up, and paying off much later. And it makes sense. Also, boys, boys, sure, Hendricks is nice, so is Moss, but let's not forget about Brie here.
Sept. 19, 2010, 3:54 p.m. CST
I guess you never went to any Lilith Fair shows back in the 90's. There are plenty of hot Lesbian and Bi girls in Texas. Houston and Austin are loaded with them.
Sept. 19, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST
almost as bad as the daughter playing with herself
Sept. 19, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST
i think you should calm down go to calfornia and go to any lesbian bar and most of them are grgeous
Sept. 19, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST
thank you for proving my point what homophobes like android fail to realize its not only ugly people that love pussy
ugly women i should say
Sept. 19, 2010, 4:09 p.m. CST
That was an incredible way to just insinuate that shes going to be a little fucked up in teenage years, and just in time for the sexual revolution/seventies/hippies everything. I don't think it was weak at all and it didnt need to go any further than it did. It's things like that lead directly to the sexual revolution. When you tell an entire generation its wrong and filthy to pleasure yourself, they rebel, and start fucking eachother like rabbits. It made perfect sense to me.
Sept. 19, 2010, 4:12 p.m. CST
this thread was in need of a hater post
Sept. 19, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST
not saying that there arent a fair share of butch dykes that show up, but a few months back, i got called in on a server emergency...and i never had so much fun inching through a crowd of people<p>drunk lesbians are the best
Sept. 19, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST
I take your point, but doesn't the artist have some say in the matter? Lets assume that Mick Jagger and Keith Richards are massive fans of the show. The producers get in touch and say they's like to use Satisfaction but they only have 20k instead of the 100k asking price. Wouldn't Jagger and Richards be able to work something out, or is it completely out of their hands? That was the point I was trying to make (sorry I didn't make it clearer).
Sept. 19, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST
yeah ive seen buth dykes before and i know theres a fair amount of them but i doubt theyre in the 95% range like android thinks if he doesnt believe me thats his own business but i go to afterellen.com all the time and most of the people posting comments are good looking women thats what my whole point was
Sept. 19, 2010, 5:31 p.m. CST
sweet jesus you are of a sick mindset just because someone doesnt agree with you you lash out at them with wild abandon nice look in the mirror next time if you mant toknowe who the douchbag is do you think all lesbians are afraid of who they are that they post somebody elses pics instead of theirs? i dont think todays gay and lesbian teenagers need such closed mindedness "you dont have to worry about being gay if your pretty" thats pretty sick you are inforcing an outdated stereotype my friend and that is unhealthy
Sept. 19, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST
i certainly hope youre not one of those people that think all gays should burn in hell are you? a fred "god hates fags" phelps type of person? because thats what all those religious whackos say that gays deserve AIDS because of their lifestyle youre not one of those right?
Sept. 19, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST
The problem with shows like Northern Exposure and Daria, where the DVD versions didn't pony up the cash to license songs for the DVDs, is different than current shows who plan on releasing DVDs in the next year or two. With Northern Exposure, for example, they had no clue that there would be a market for people to buy television shows long after they aired, so when they originally bought the music the contracts didn't address home video. However, with something like Mad Men, which was created in the era of heavy TV DVD sales, they probably pay the publisher so they can use the songs not only during the original broadcast but also for the DVD release as well.
Sept. 19, 2010, 6:24 p.m. CST
It would be a bit stereotypical if the only hard charging career woman in the office was a homosexual. <P> Now I'm not saying Peggy might not "experiment" but, I think she will discover it is not for her.
Sept. 19, 2010, 6:32 p.m. CST
im not gay i like the pussy as much as any red blooded american man hell i even fuck fat girls!!! but i guess you were trying to be jovial by saying that
Sept. 19, 2010, 6:51 p.m. CST
by mr dark
Peggy looks totally edible as well as Betty and Joan...Don Draper is a lucky man to have all three in the back seat
Sept. 19, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST
That's a joke, ladies and gentlemen.
Sept. 19, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST
Sept. 19, 2010, 7 p.m. CST
Most lesbians are attractive, but where I live most of the lesbians I see are not attractive by conventional standards. They are the more stereotypical, butch lesbians. 95% may be a little high, but then again, it might not be. Of course, there is the possibility that the hot, lipstick variety of lesbian is not so obvious, while the Paul Bunyan variety of lesbian can be spotted from afar without even having a big, blue ox next to them.
Sept. 19, 2010, 7:09 p.m. CST
January Jones and Christina Hendricks look amazing, but Elizabeth Moss still looks funny to me. Her chest looks fine, but she has a funny looking face. I can't get around it. I was talking to a female friend of mine the other day who had just seen season 1 for the first time. She wondered why the men were fawning all over Peggy, because in her words, "She is so ugly". Ouch. Finally, if Christina Hendricks has fat rolls, I want to find out for myself. Playboy should offer her a million dollars to pose so we can find out what is under those brilliant architectural designs she wears.
Sept. 19, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST
...I don't care how "hot" everyone says Christiana Hendricks is... the chick is fat. Huge rack, yes, but you just KNOW it's probably all blue-vein-y, too... and yes, the rest of the body... FAT! On Mad Men, she's got about 20 pounds of elastic and metal boning under those dresses to give her the va-va-voom shape, but when that shit comes off, run for the f*ckin' hills because here come the tidal wave of cellulite!
Sept. 19, 2010, 7:43 p.m. CST
...I recall back when she was in Girl, Interrupted as the crazy burn victim chick. She STILL looks like a burn victim, even without the fake burn scars. It's weird. She's just odd-looking.
Sept. 19, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST
And then proceed to eat her fat pussy!<p>Afterwards, I would sit her fat ass on my cock and have squeal like a fat pig!<p>Yeah she fat! So whats the problem, again???
Sept. 19, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST
If you like them curvy gals, Joan is the perfect specimen of womanhood. Betty is the woman I'd have on my arm at corporate and social events (she's the perfect trophy wife) but in the bedroom I'd only want to spill my seed onto (and into) Joan. She has the kind of figure you find painted on the side of a WW2 bomber. Yum! As for Peggy, I'd do her in the office when no one's around, like a guilty pleasure. Peggy reminds me of the awkward, frumpy girl in high school whom everyone laughed at but you secretly wanted to know what she would sound like when you rammed her from behind.
Sept. 19, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST
...and none of you are getting any pussy anyway. As for me, I'd get down on my knees and thank the God that made me if either one gave me even a peek at what's hiding under there.
Sept. 19, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST
Cute face but shes just a beast. Peggy is just a pig. almost forgot - do we get a betty molestation flashback this week?
Sept. 19, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST
You won't give up on the molestation thing, will you?
Sept. 19, 2010, 9:02 p.m. CST
Sept. 19, 2010, 9:08 p.m. CST
Didn't think someone could ruin Joan's tits for me, yet, there it is.
Sept. 19, 2010, 9:09 p.m. CST
where men love it<p>and wait...draper hit it with doctor hotty? what a slut he is
Sept. 19, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST
Weiner himself confirmed that in a recent interview.
Sept. 19, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST
Now we're getting into Sopranos territory.
Sept. 19, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST
Hopefully Danny Strong is next! Maybe he'll get hit by a bus!
Sept. 19, 2010, 9:33 p.m. CST
Sept. 19, 2010, 9:35 p.m. CST
what a slut he is
Sept. 19, 2010, 9:35 p.m. CST
"Surrounded by the people she answered phones for." I did not catch the writing credit for this ep, but whoever wrote it better get an Emmy nod next year.
Sept. 19, 2010, 9:41 p.m. CST
molested<p>sally was not masturbating in public<p>she thought her friend was asleep...kids have less inhibitions and in those days, parents did not discuss masturbation with their children and where it was appropriate, and there was no sex education in school<p>there was no internet, so one had to get fapping material where one could find it, and ilya kuryakin was considered a hottie by the teens and tweens of the day (im sure plenty of guys fapped it to emma peel and bat girl)<P>and molestation is too trite<p>betty's problem is that she was raised to be eye candy and when she married draper, he still hadnt totally submerged dick...that came later, probably after their first child
Sept. 19, 2010, 9:43 p.m. CST
At least she can figure out who Don's sleeping with.
Sept. 19, 2010, 9:51 p.m. CST
1. Bugs are easily found.<P>2. The lead wraps a gun in a shirt, never expecting someone to snoop through his stuff.<p>3. People being tailed constantly catches those following them.<p>4. Agents ransacks apartmments w/o closing the shades and turning on the lights!<p>Rubicon could learn from MI-5!
Sept. 19, 2010, 10:03 p.m. CST
those were some cryptic words she gave the secretary and her father there at the end. She's obviously cracking under her home life. Now that the door to living with her dad has been slammed shut (though he looked like he was rethinking it when he met Betty in the lobby) anyone else wonder if she might try to off herself?
Sept. 19, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST
R.I.P. Miss Blankenship. I am sure Randee Heller will get work on another show playing essentially the same character. Unfortunately, it will be on some crappy sitcom such as 2 1/2 Men. <P> An Joan is turn on by DANGER! She's a super freak, super freak she's super freaky. <P> And the spoilers were right Don will marry his super hot receptionist apparently new secretary because she is good with kids. And of course totally fuck up his second marriage.
Sept. 19, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST
she know about acting. Like how to speak like your reading out of a phone book.
Sept. 19, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST
Sept. 19, 2010, 10:18 p.m. CST
Is suicide common among 11 year olds? I think she's too young for such thoughts at her age. I think her rebellion is beginning quite early though. Betty is going to have it rough pretty soon. RIP Miss Blankenship. We hardly knew ye.
Sept. 19, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST
Who is Rebecca Pigeon's daughter? Whoever it is, is she Mamet's daughter too?
Sept. 19, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST
Joan has such big, perky tittys. They were just begging to bust out of that red get-up she was wearing. Also, I'd love to give Megan a good banging.
Sept. 19, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST
I would be happy with any of the above. In fact, throw in Jane too. Where the heck has she been all season? And throw in Trudy as well. Not Peggy though.
Sept. 19, 2010, 10:43 p.m. CST
But I could be wrong...
Sept. 19, 2010, 11:04 p.m. CST
Questlove of The Roots, and houseband of Jimmy Fallon talks about that. He said when he saw them use Lovely Rita for Tom Hanks's walk on music on Conan's last ep. of The Tonight Show he was very surprised, because that particular tune cost $500,000 to use. Here's more of what he has to say: http://beta.twitlonger.com/show/5553e
Sept. 19, 2010, 11:09 p.m. CST
Which actress has a famous mother?
Sept. 19, 2010, 11:22 p.m. CST
by Voice O. Reason
Conan had a running joke the last week or so that he was wasting NBC's money on purpose for no reason.
Sept. 19, 2010, 11:34 p.m. CST
She is going to rain down hell on Draper and the Fish stick.<p>Hottie Megan just moved to the top of Don's to do list.
Sept. 20, 2010, 12:40 a.m. CST
it was roger who did ida... in his teens
Sept. 20, 2010, 12:43 a.m. CST
Ok guys, she's not your typical "starlet", but she also ain't all that bad. She's actually pretty cute, but in her costume from Mad Men she looks kind of dowdy. That is because she is playing a character who has those character traits. You most likely haven't seen her in much else besides Mad Men, so it's understandable that you can only really see her as looking like her frumpy Mad Men character of Peggy. BUT you more than likely you have actually been seeing her on television for SEVERAL months now and just haven't realized it. She's got an Excederin commercial that's ran on television for quite awhile in and if it's running in your area then you've most liekly seen her in it and not recognized that it's her. Give her a look without the Peggy costume and make-up and you'll see that in normal, modern, costuming/dress that she really is actually pretty cute. http://jezebel.com/5193833/mad-mens-peggy-olson-spokesperson-for-excedrin
Sept. 20, 2010, 12:44 a.m. CST
you "don't want to see joan or betty naked"? are you nuts? come on joan is one sexy red head and peggy aint bad either
Sept. 20, 2010, 12:46 a.m. CST
http://tiny.cc/ksceu Sorry about the raw link. I forget sometimes. :-)
Sept. 20, 2010, 12:46 a.m. CST
is off to vietnam, most likely to be killed, that frees her up to have a hot lesbian tryst with peggy or any secretary at the firm
Sept. 20, 2010, 1:05 a.m. CST
Fuck, I missed it. If I had seen a link here on AICN I would have remembered. Shame on you Herc... I'm depending on you to baby me in every way possible. Fail.
Sept. 20, 2010, 1:12 a.m. CST
Man, that whole bit of them moving Miss Blankenship's body was hilarious.
Sept. 20, 2010, 1:36 a.m. CST
Now that Peggy has been spending some time with her lesbian friend, maybe we'll hopefully see a return of Salvatore soon, is some way or another. That character was great, and Bryan Batt play(s/ed)him perfectly.
Sept. 20, 2010, 1:39 a.m. CST
Even when she kicks the bucket she's funny. And Roger's "Died the way she lived" line was classic.
Sept. 20, 2010, 1:45 a.m. CST
Did he say he doesn't have an office? I could have sworn he did. Isn't it odd that the senior partner is the only one without a office? :-)
Sept. 20, 2010, 2:28 a.m. CST
he is now a figurehead<p>does anyone know who directed? cant find it on imdb
Sept. 20, 2010, 2:32 a.m. CST
looked like two midgets wrestling<p> and those swedish dykes were in for a real treat<p>fuck you hbo...if you had picked up that show, that entire scene would have been left in
Sept. 20, 2010, 4:48 a.m. CST
by Bass Ackwards
A lot of people jump to the molestation *which Weiner has plainly said is the direction he's not going," the more obvious answer, especially after this episode, is that children who begin masturbating at an early age often due so due to growing up in a chaotic household. Its a manifestation of their needs for and limited ability to access withdrawal/ escape/control in those kind of situations.
Sept. 20, 2010, 4:50 a.m. CST
by Bass Ackwards
Also in my above posted, I have no idea why I put those quote marks in the middle of my sentence, i wasn't quoting anyone.
Sept. 20, 2010, 6:58 a.m. CST
That's about the funniest thing I've ever heard. To all of you calling her fat, you know if she showed up in your basement naked and ready to party, you'd blow your load before she even touched you. Inconceivable.
Sept. 20, 2010, 7:11 a.m. CST
I know a lot of gay men who grew up masturbating to "Leave It to Beaver" Ahh, that Tony Dow.
Sept. 20, 2010, 8:09 a.m. CST
Next episode better be ALL him, guys.
Sept. 20, 2010, 8:17 a.m. CST
Well, we know they weren't spanking it to "the Beaver". Ba-dum-dum-ching!
Sept. 20, 2010, 8:23 a.m. CST
by The McPoyle Clan
Pete did have a small role...and made the most of while out of focus and without a line of dialog.<p><p>Looks like there's more Megan next week, which isn't a bad thing.<p><p>Rubicon may well turn out to be a Rube-a-con, but it's hard to look away at this point.
Sept. 20, 2010, 8:25 a.m. CST
by Goon Bighead
this show is run by the devil. Jessica Pare has lost a ton of weight since I last saw her making out with Piper Perabo in that lesbo movie.
Sept. 20, 2010, 8:35 a.m. CST
I would love it if there were a Rubicon TB. I think it's too much to ask for at this point. It will all start to come together this coming Sunday. Jessica Pare is still a tasty treat. So is Piper Perabo for that matter.
Sept. 20, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST
Haven't we all been in a bad relationship and still stayed on the same team?<br> <br> Yet the way Peggy's friend acts and dresses as a male indicates she doesnt want to be hurt by men anymore so she's decided to be one. And is a lez because of the way men have hurt her. <br> <br> Way she treats and what she thinks of men, her calling is that of a dominatrix. <br> <br> Only watched the show 4 times, so I'm a newbie.
Sept. 20, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST
The gal playing Joyce, Peggy's lesbian friend, is his daughter. She's also Mia Wasikowska's best friend in THE KIDS ARE ALL RIGHT, although it took me awhile to figure out where I'd seen her before.
Sept. 20, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST
by The McPoyle Clan
Is that speculation or based on some knowledge of the show?<p><p>Oh, and anyone else hate the crappy new IMDB layout that requires so much more scrolling?
Sept. 20, 2010, 9:57 a.m. CST
and a Jew supremacist. Does that have anything to do with this episode? No but neither does whose daughter which actress is.
Sept. 20, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST
s'about time. <P> But for all her wonderfullness, she is a realist, and does not want to be a cliche'.
Sept. 20, 2010, 10:44 a.m. CST
Good lord, I hope the subtly hot Jessica Pare snags a significant story arc not only for this season's last few episodes, but well into the next. Her tenderness towards the near-insane Sally draper was heartbreaking. Used correctly, the "Megan" charater can inject a much needed jolt of human warmth into this series. And I'm hoping that Don Draper doesn't just use her and throw her away as he does with so many others. I'd love to see that cool facade of his shattered by actually falling in love with a woman. Besides, the poor bastard needs to get away fronm blondes for a while. Apparently they're bad luck for him. Oh, and for all you guys ragging on Joan for being "fat," here's a newsflash for you: that's how women are supposed to look. Yes, that's right. They're supposed to have hips, breasts and butts, unlike today's (snicker) "women" who have dieted themselves to the point where the knobs of their joints are bigger around then their arms or legs. Women, gentlemen, should be built for comfort, not speed!
Sept. 20, 2010, 11:01 a.m. CST
by Le Vicious Fishus
I know some of you guys don't like him, but I consider The Choppah a good (albeit bugnuts) friend. <BR><BR>And TB seems so empty without him.
Sept. 20, 2010, 11:03 a.m. CST
by Thunderbolt Ross
I'm sure that figure was arrived at scientifically, because it makes perfect sense ...<p>Un-sarcastically, what can I say but another great episode. It's getting hard to talk about this show.
Sept. 20, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST
He helped cover Miss Blankenship's body and get her out. What's funny was Joan asked Megan to "get a man" to help move the body and she brings Pete who couldn't even lift it out of the chair!
Sept. 20, 2010, 11:15 a.m. CST
If she were fat, there's no way she could've done it standing up. Although I am surprised she didn't give Roger another heart attack.
Sept. 20, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST
Joan suggested they get a blanket he had in his office. He was barely seen saying, "My mother made that!" Funny scene. And I like anything, no matter how awful, that can leave Don so distracted and flustered.
Sept. 20, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST
My husband claims that it's the building where DC Comics used to be. Can anyone confirm that?
Sept. 20, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST
"ARE YOU GOING TO THE TOILET??" in that distinctive tone of hers. And I would think in the mid sixties, some homosexuals thought they were attracted to the same sex because of some harm that was done to them in the past by a prior relationship. It was only in 1973 when the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder.
Sept. 20, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST
by Thunderbolt Ross
I loved that one line near the end "She looks so pudgy in pictures" or something to that effect. Just gloriously clueless.
Sept. 20, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST
TB?? LOVED the Sphinx (..Sphinx!!..)training montage. Nobody does a montage, the boys various deaths for example, like Venture.
Sept. 20, 2010, 1:37 p.m. CST
I've always thought that was Roger falling in the opening credits and yes I'm well aware that's it's only metaphorical but it could be the series finale too. Then last night he said he'd rather go splat than die like Ms. B.
Sept. 20, 2010, 2:08 p.m. CST
that Sal makes a return to Sterling Cooper. The new art guy is ok, just sort of "there", but not very interesting. It would be great to have Sal return in the final episode of Season 4 after this guy screws up somehow. Maybe he has to work covertly or freelance and make himself scarce whenever Lee Garner comes around...
Sept. 20, 2010, 2:18 p.m. CST
Thought she might have gotten through to the old man for a minute there. He probably feels like he has troubles enough as it is, w/o trying to raise a kid in the city.
Sept. 20, 2010, 2:41 p.m. CST
by Bob Loblaw Law Blog
Best line of the night for me. I also loved the little waves that Don and Sally gave to each other... before things got ugly. I love little Sally Draper.
Sept. 20, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST
Every home scene with Don and the kids has Don on the couch reading the paper and the kids glued to the boob tube. Granted, I did the same as a preteen, but even my dad, who was emotionally distant like many of that period, took us out from time to time (miniature golf, camping, etc.).<p>And I do like spotting what the characters are watching..Joan watching The Patty Duke Show?
Sept. 20, 2010, 3:29 p.m. CST
by Le Vicious Fishus
He'll be back. The Choppah wouldn't leave fo-evah.
Sept. 20, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST
At that point the Reagan backlash kicks in. <P> The producers would have to start skipping a few more years though. As great as Mad Men is, it is a rare TV show that can go more than seven seasons with out a big drop off in quality. <P> I at least want them to make it to 1975. I keep having this vision in my head of a mid 1970's Don Draper: Long hair, Side burns, porn stash, eyes like saucers coked-up out of his mind, driving his Chrysler Cordoba with the real Corinthian leather through a sleazy Pre-Giuliani Times Square full of hookers,pervs and porn marquees, a seventeen year old Disco Coke whore head lolling in the passenger seat while Sweet's "Fox on the Run" blares on the 8 Track.
Sept. 20, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST
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Sept. 20, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST
Here's a link to a Paley Center Video about the "Man Men" credit sequence on You Tube. <P> http://tinyurl.com/2vvhp6e Search You Tube for "Mad Men Paley Center" and you can find a lot of cool stuff to give you a "Mad Men" fix until next Sunday.
Sept. 20, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST
Sept. 20, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST
Turn in to watch Sally Draper.
Sept. 20, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST
Roger continues to try to keep his life separate. "She died like she lived." and he doesn't want to die in the office. Why wouldn't someone want to die like they live? Why wouldn't Roger want to die in the office where he has spent all of his life? This false dichotomy he has constructed is exactly why he never ended up with Joan despite their obvious love for each other. <p> The whole point of the lesbian is to contrast her with the women of the series. She's where women in America are going philosophically (towards hatred of men) and the other three (four, if you include Betty) are where women are right now. That's the point of the end visual of them getting in opposite elevators at the end of the episode. <p> It's also the point of the three different plots. Joan is always on edge, feeling like she constantly has to defend herself. Peggy is proud of herself, but is constantly has guilt thrust upon her by others. Faye is smart and confident, but avoids addressing her insecurities by trying to psychologize everything. Feminism will appeal to all these different types of women. <p> Then there's Sally (and Betty). Sally is the next generation of women and we're beginning to see how feminism will appeal to her. Sally is very smart and realizes how messed up Betty is. She's also going to blame her father for not "saving her" by taking her out of the situation.
Sept. 20, 2010, 6:55 p.m. CST
That was probably 666 5th Ave, which runs parallel to 6th ave, which is what they're on. It's also within a couple blocks of the Time-Life bldg. Never noticed whether or not they have the numbers at the top of the building, guess I'll look for it next time I'm up that high in the area. As a side note, now that they're on 6th Ave (technically Ave of the Americas), are they still Mad Men? What about American Men? Nah.
Sept. 20, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST
The follow up was just as good.<p> Sally:"Is it bad?"<p> Don:"no not really" sounding and looking surprised as he dives in.
Sept. 20, 2010, 9:44 p.m. CST
...for many years: http://tinyurl.com/2c7zyca
Sept. 20, 2010, 10:49 p.m. CST
I have no prior knowledge about what will be happening on the show, aside from the previews for next week. In the preview, Mrs. Reumer and Will are seen talking to each other. Now they will be linked and their information will be shared. That's a given. The question is "When?" Another question is "What the hell is Spengler up to?" I am sure both will be answered in the finale (?). Why can't we have a Rubicon TB on here? Finally, I agree with you about the new IMDB. I hate it.
Sept. 21, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST
by The McPoyle Clan
There is someone here who claimed to know what was going on, but I don't recall who.
Sept. 21, 2010, 5:50 p.m. CST
"Roger, its YOUR baby!" etc.
Sept. 22, 2010, 8:52 a.m. CST