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I am – Hercules!! Last week Henry smooshed Don’s belongings, Joan kissed Greg goodbye, Peggy fired a guy, Don visited a dumpster, and a colleague was chosen over Jane Sterling’s friend. “It’s about Don coming to terms, internally, with cleaning up,” series mastermind Matthew Weiner says of last week’s episode, “The Summer Man.” “Summer’s coming and the world is changing and he wants to be better.” The Rolling Stones’ doubtlessly expensive “Satisfaction” (released June 6, 1965), a very popular rock & roll song about advertising, was featured prominently. If not here, where? AMC says of tonight’s installment, titled “The Beautiful Girls”:
Peggy receives a romantic gift that could compromise her career.
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  • Sept. 19, 2010, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Lesbian Hijinks?!!!

    by cymbalta4thedevil

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 12:57 p.m. CST

    May I be the FIRST to say

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    that I've always thought MAD MEN was leading to a hot sapphic tryst between Peggy and Joan. That sexual tension has been brewing since the very first episode.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Where's this week's clip?

    by dukeroberts

    We have no idea whose lesbian hijinks you're talking about.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 1:10 p.m. CST

    ITS PEGGY!!!!

    by JaredP

    and her new hippy girlfriend go to people they have a clip of the scene

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Joan will never have a lesbian scene

    by Shakeshift

    NOTHING about the show would seem to point towards Joan having lesbianic tendencies. The episode with the lesbian roommate from season one pretty much quashed it right from the start, to the eternal sadness of men everywhere. Certainly not with Peggy.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Joan will never get naked either.

    by fiester

    She has pretty much vetoed any chance of seeing her get the girls out. Expect this trend to continue until the scripts stop coming her way. She is very hot right now, but give it a few years. She will be naked somewhere at some point.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 1:48 p.m. CST

    i'm pretty sure it's Peggy

    by newc0253

    we've already seen her getting attention from the ladies...

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 2 p.m. CST

    I don't want to see joan naked

    by punto

    she's fat. looking at her shape through those dresses might be hot, but when you take them away it's just fat drooping down everywhere. just look at any old painting, or that porn video of Marilyn when she was 16. it's just sad.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Anyone know how to find out the price of licensing music?

    by ndally

    I would love to know how much a rolling stones song is. Anyone know how to find out? I say it probably cost 120,000. I read an interview with someone who claimed a led zeplin tune set them back 250,000. That's insane. I wish I could remember who the interview was with..

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 2:43 p.m. CST


    by lock67ca

    But will it be too expensive to use on the DVD? I've no doubt it's the priciest piece of music they've used so far.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3 p.m. CST

    My prediction

    by groovygod

    Someone finds those business cards Duck gave Peggy in the previous episode

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3:06 p.m. CST

    They could have gotten "Satisfaction" for nothing

    by umbral_shadow_

    An acclaimed show like Mad Men using an artist's music is good publicity for that artist. So they could have gotten Satisfaction for very little or nothing at all. However, if a company wanted to use Satisfaction in a commercial for a new product, then it would likely cost around several hundred grand at least.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3:22 p.m. CST

    unparanoid android

    by JaredP

    buy a clue what do you call portia derossi chely wright lindsay lohan michelle rodriguez brandi carlisle jennifer knapp stephanie miller? hosebags? oh yaeah that portia is "frakkin ugly" right!!! i think your an uptight homophope and its your kind of genes that will be eradicated

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3:24 p.m. CST

    and another thing

    by JaredP

    most of the women in porn are bisexual which for simple minded people like yourself means they go with men AND women duh!!!

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3:28 p.m. CST

    and peggy IS attractive

    by JaredP

    she just doesnt dress up as much as joan she loks mousy but is she wore makeup and beautiful dresses trust me im sure she could set ails wagging

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3:34 p.m. CST

    "I don't want to see joan naked"

    by Voice O. Reason

    Congratulations on being gay. I hope coming out of the closet like this hasn't compromised your life in any way.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3:39 p.m. CST


    by Shakeshift

    NO licensed music goes for "little or nothing at all" when it comes to the intellectual property rights. Even hit shows have to pay up to the license holders like everyone else. There's no "We're a number one show, so YOU should be thanking US for using your song!" mentality. They probably paid around 50-100K for the rights to use that song, which is why they used it so prominently last week. The rights will probably continue through to DVD and BLU-RAY releases, but in fifteen years expect that music to be replaced whenever the new technology releases it. Lots of music (especially from the Universal peeps, see NORTHERN EXPOSURE and QUANTUM LEAP) gets replaced once it comes down to paying musicians to get permission to release the rights back on a new format.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Look at Elizabeth Moss on the current Rolling Stone cover

    by terry1978

    And tell me you would not destroy that shit on a nightly basis.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST


    by TiPPiDa

    *SLAP* CALM DOWN... You're being hysterical.<P>Naming names from the top 5 percent of lesbian women in the world doesn't prove your point, it only serves to prove his (irrelevant and misguided as it may be).<P> They are the exceptions, not the rule.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST


    by brabon300

    one of my clients is a gay bar in hollywood...every friday night its lesbians me when i say...its schwing time

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Music on TV Shows

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I bet classic rock acts are much more amenable to letting TV shows use their music and licensing it for DVDs and Soundtracks than they used to be. It's one of the few guaranteed sources of revenue they have left, now that all you geeks are stealing your music off the Internet. Bob Dylan, for example let NCIS have an unreleased 60's track called "California" for on-air and for the subsequent DVD and Soundtrack CD.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3:53 p.m. CST


    by DanielKurland

    I HOPE you're right about it being the business cards. I love shit like that coming up, and paying off much later. And it makes sense. Also, boys, boys, sure, Hendricks is nice, so is Moss, but let's not forget about Brie here.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3:54 p.m. CST


    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I guess you never went to any Lilith Fair shows back in the 90's. There are plenty of hot Lesbian and Bi girls in Texas. Houston and Austin are loaded with them.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 3:55 p.m. CST

    the lesbian friend of peggy is the weakest storyline

    by rainbowtrout1265

    almost as bad as the daughter playing with herself

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 4:05 p.m. CST


    by JaredP

    i think you should calm down go to calfornia and go to any lesbian bar and most of them are grgeous

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    brabon 300 cymbalta

    by JaredP

    thank you for proving my point what homophobes like android fail to realize its not only ugly people that love pussy

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 4:08 p.m. CST

    by JaredP

    ugly women i should say

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Sally's Diddling Was Not Weak

    by Crow3711

    That was an incredible way to just insinuate that shes going to be a little fucked up in teenage years, and just in time for the sexual revolution/seventies/hippies everything. I don't think it was weak at all and it didnt need to go any further than it did. It's things like that lead directly to the sexual revolution. When you tell an entire generation its wrong and filthy to pleasure yourself, they rebel, and start fucking eachother like rabbits. It made perfect sense to me.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 4:12 p.m. CST

    rainbowtrout1265....thank you

    by brabon300

    this thread was in need of a hater post

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST


    by brabon300

    not saying that there arent a fair share of butch dykes that show up, but a few months back, i got called in on a server emergency...and i never had so much fun inching through a crowd of people<p>drunk lesbians are the best

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 4:30 p.m. CST


    by umbral_shadow_

    I take your point, but doesn't the artist have some say in the matter? Lets assume that Mick Jagger and Keith Richards are massive fans of the show. The producers get in touch and say they's like to use Satisfaction but they only have 20k instead of the 100k asking price. Wouldn't Jagger and Richards be able to work something out, or is it completely out of their hands? That was the point I was trying to make (sorry I didn't make it clearer).

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST


    by JaredP

    yeah ive seen buth dykes before and i know theres a fair amount of them but i doubt theyre in the 95% range like android thinks if he doesnt believe me thats his own business but i go to all the time and most of the people posting comments are good looking women thats what my whole point was

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 5:31 p.m. CST

    im dense?

    by JaredP

    sweet jesus you are of a sick mindset just because someone doesnt agree with you you lash out at them with wild abandon nice look in the mirror next time if you mant toknowe who the douchbag is do you think all lesbians are afraid of who they are that they post somebody elses pics instead of theirs? i dont think todays gay and lesbian teenagers need such closed mindedness "you dont have to worry about being gay if your pretty" thats pretty sick you are inforcing an outdated stereotype my friend and that is unhealthy

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 5:42 p.m. CST


    by JaredP

    i certainly hope youre not one of those people that think all gays should burn in hell are you? a fred "god hates fags" phelps type of person? because thats what all those religious whackos say that gays deserve AIDS because of their lifestyle youre not one of those right?

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Re: Licensing songs for DVD

    by rbatty024

    The problem with shows like Northern Exposure and Daria, where the DVD versions didn't pony up the cash to license songs for the DVDs, is different than current shows who plan on releasing DVDs in the next year or two. With Northern Exposure, for example, they had no clue that there would be a market for people to buy television shows long after they aired, so when they originally bought the music the contracts didn't address home video. However, with something like Mad Men, which was created in the era of heavy TV DVD sales, they probably pay the publisher so they can use the songs not only during the original broadcast but also for the DVD release as well.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 6:24 p.m. CST

    I Don't think Peggy is gay

    by InActionMan

    It would be a bit stereotypical if the only hard charging career woman in the office was a homosexual. <P> Now I'm not saying Peggy might not "experiment" but, I think she will discover it is not for her.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 6:32 p.m. CST

    no android

    by JaredP

    im not gay i like the pussy as much as any red blooded american man hell i even fuck fat girls!!! but i guess you were trying to be jovial by saying that

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 6:51 p.m. CST

    That Rolling Stone cover is the shit.....WOW!!!

    by mr dark

    Peggy looks totally edible as well as Betty and Joan...Don Draper is a lucky man to have all three in the back seat

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST

    I'm surprised Harry can afford the rights to post a link to the

    by DanielKurland

    That's a joke, ladies and gentlemen.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 6:53 p.m. CST

    ...a link to the song.

    by DanielKurland


  • Sept. 19, 2010, 7 p.m. CST

    Maybe in Hollywood...

    by dukeroberts

    Most lesbians are attractive, but where I live most of the lesbians I see are not attractive by conventional standards. They are the more stereotypical, butch lesbians. 95% may be a little high, but then again, it might not be. Of course, there is the possibility that the hot, lipstick variety of lesbian is not so obvious, while the Paul Bunyan variety of lesbian can be spotted from afar without even having a big, blue ox next to them.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Rolling Stone cover

    by dukeroberts

    January Jones and Christina Hendricks look amazing, but Elizabeth Moss still looks funny to me. Her chest looks fine, but she has a funny looking face. I can't get around it. I was talking to a female friend of mine the other day who had just seen season 1 for the first time. She wondered why the men were fawning all over Peggy, because in her words, "She is so ugly". Ouch. Finally, if Christina Hendricks has fat rolls, I want to find out for myself. Playboy should offer her a million dollars to pose so we can find out what is under those brilliant architectural designs she wears.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Joan IS fat...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...I don't care how "hot" everyone says Christiana Hendricks is... the chick is fat. Huge rack, yes, but you just KNOW it's probably all blue-vein-y, too... and yes, the rest of the body... FAT! On Mad Men, she's got about 20 pounds of elastic and metal boning under those dresses to give her the va-va-voom shape, but when that shit comes off, run for the f*ckin' hills because here come the tidal wave of cellulite!

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Every time I see Elizabeth Moss...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...I recall back when she was in Girl, Interrupted as the crazy burn victim chick. She STILL looks like a burn victim, even without the fake burn scars. It's weird. She's just odd-looking.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Yup, Joan is FAT! And I would put her fat tits in my mouth!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    And then proceed to eat her fat pussy!<p>Afterwards, I would sit her fat ass on my cock and have squeal like a fat pig!<p>Yeah she fat! So whats the problem, again???

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Joan is ALL woman, baby!

    by Planty_McPlant_Plants_His_Plant_At_AICN

    If you like them curvy gals, Joan is the perfect specimen of womanhood. Betty is the woman I'd have on my arm at corporate and social events (she's the perfect trophy wife) but in the bedroom I'd only want to spill my seed onto (and into) Joan. She has the kind of figure you find painted on the side of a WW2 bomber. Yum! As for Peggy, I'd do her in the office when no one's around, like a guilty pleasure. Peggy reminds me of the awkward, frumpy girl in high school whom everyone laughed at but you secretly wanted to know what she would sound like when you rammed her from behind.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 8:14 p.m. CST

    So Joan is fat and Peggy is ugly...

    by McSatan

    ...and none of you are getting any pussy anyway. As for me, I'd get down on my knees and thank the God that made me if either one gave me even a peek at what's hiding under there.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Joan is a big bitch.

    by celebritydave

    Cute face but shes just a beast. Peggy is just a pig. almost forgot - do we get a betty molestation flashback this week?

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 8:57 p.m. CST


    by dukeroberts

    You won't give up on the molestation thing, will you?

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Damn, Don was tearing that ass up

    by terry1978

    Get it.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 9:08 p.m. CST

    "All blue vein-y"...

    by DanielKurland

    Didn't think someone could ruin Joan's tits for me, yet, there it is.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 9:09 p.m. CST

    hendricks fat is all in her tits and ass

    by brabon300

    where men love it<p>and wait...draper hit it with doctor hotty? what a slut he is

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Betty was never molested, dude

    by ShabbyBlue

    Weiner himself confirmed that in a recent interview.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 9:29 p.m. CST


    by terry1978

    Now we're getting into Sopranos territory.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 9:31 p.m. CST


    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Hopefully Danny Strong is next! Maybe he'll get hit by a bus!

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Watch Blankenship suddenly wake up in the morgue

    by ShabbyBlue

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 9:35 p.m. CST

    don fucked blankenship?

    by brabon300

    what a slut he is

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 9:35 p.m. CST

    She died like she lived

    by terry1978

    "Surrounded by the people she answered phones for." I did not catch the writing credit for this ep, but whoever wrote it better get an Emmy nod next year.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 9:41 p.m. CST

    just because one masturbates does not mean one has been

    by brabon300

    molested<p>sally was not masturbating in public<p>she thought her friend was have less inhibitions and in those days, parents did not discuss masturbation with their children and where it was appropriate, and there was no sex education in school<p>there was no internet, so one had to get fapping material where one could find it, and ilya kuryakin was considered a hottie by the teens and tweens of the day (im sure plenty of guys fapped it to emma peel and bat girl)<P>and molestation is too trite<p>betty's problem is that she was raised to be eye candy and when she married draper, he still hadnt totally submerged dick...that came later, probably after their first child

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Hahah Sally is smarter then Betty

    by Scoob1978

    At least she can figure out who Don's sleeping with.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 9:51 p.m. CST

    BTW, Rubicon is a silly show!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    1. Bugs are easily found.<P>2. The lead wraps a gun in a shirt, never expecting someone to snoop through his stuff.<p>3. People being tailed constantly catches those following them.<p>4. Agents ransacks apartmments w/o closing the shades and turning on the lights!<p>Rubicon could learn from MI-5!

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 10:03 p.m. CST


    by adml_shake

    those were some cryptic words she gave the secretary and her father there at the end. She's obviously cracking under her home life. Now that the door to living with her dad has been slammed shut (though he looked like he was rethinking it when he met Betty in the lobby) anyone else wonder if she might try to off herself?

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    The Fastest Hour on TV

    by InActionMan

    R.I.P. Miss Blankenship. I am sure Randee Heller will get work on another show playing essentially the same character. Unfortunately, it will be on some crappy sitcom such as 2 1/2 Men. <P> An Joan is turn on by DANGER! She's a super freak, super freak she's super freaky. <P> And the spoilers were right Don will marry his super hot receptionist apparently new secretary because she is good with kids. And of course totally fuck up his second marriage.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    I see Rebecca Pigeon Taught Her Daughter everything

    by cookylamoo

    she know about acting. Like how to speak like your reading out of a phone book.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Now it't time to GO TEAM VENTURE!

    by InActionMan

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 10:18 p.m. CST


    by dukeroberts

    Is suicide common among 11 year olds? I think she's too young for such thoughts at her age. I think her rebellion is beginning quite early though. Betty is going to have it rough pretty soon. RIP Miss Blankenship. We hardly knew ye.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Rebecca Pigeon?

    by dukeroberts

    Who is Rebecca Pigeon's daughter? Whoever it is, is she Mamet's daughter too?

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 10:24 p.m. CST


    by Jubs

    Joan has such big, perky tittys. They were just begging to bust out of that red get-up she was wearing. Also, I'd love to give Megan a good banging.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Joan, Megan and Faye

    by dukeroberts

    I would be happy with any of the above. In fact, throw in Jane too. Where the heck has she been all season? And throw in Trudy as well. Not Peggy though.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Pretty sure her Mother is Lindsay Crouse, not Rebecca Pidgeon

    by Circumvrent

    But I could be wrong...

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 11:04 p.m. CST

    For those interested in music prices/rights

    by paper

    Questlove of The Roots, and houseband of Jimmy Fallon talks about that. He said when he saw them use Lovely Rita for Tom Hanks's walk on music on Conan's last ep. of The Tonight Show he was very surprised, because that particular tune cost $500,000 to use. Here's more of what he has to say:

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Whose mother?

    by dukeroberts

    Which actress has a famous mother?

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 11:22 p.m. CST

    " Lovely Rita for Tom Hanks's walk on music on Conan's last ep.

    by Voice O. Reason

    Conan had a running joke the last week or so that he was wasting NBC's money on purpose for no reason.

  • Sept. 19, 2010, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Sally is one hell of a smart kid

    by Xiphos_2

    She is going to rain down hell on Draper and the Fish stick.<p>Hottie Megan just moved to the top of Don's to do list.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 12:40 a.m. CST

    no brabon300

    by JaredP

    it was roger who did ida... in his teens

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Hey All Of You Elizabeth Moss (Peggy Olson) Haters...

    by JethroBodine

    Ok guys, she's not your typical "starlet", but she also ain't all that bad. She's actually pretty cute, but in her costume from Mad Men she looks kind of dowdy. That is because she is playing a character who has those character traits. You most likely haven't seen her in much else besides Mad Men, so it's understandable that you can only really see her as looking like her frumpy Mad Men character of Peggy. BUT you more than likely you have actually been seeing her on television for SEVERAL months now and just haven't realized it. She's got an Excederin commercial that's ran on television for quite awhile in and if it's running in your area then you've most liekly seen her in it and not recognized that it's her. Give her a look without the Peggy costume and make-up and you'll see that in normal, modern, costuming/dress that she really is actually pretty cute.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 12:44 a.m. CST

    i dont know what you guys are talking about

    by JaredP

    you "don't want to see joan or betty naked"? are you nuts? come on joan is one sexy red head and peggy aint bad either

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 12:46 a.m. CST


    by JethroBodine Sorry about the raw link. I forget sometimes. :-)

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 12:46 a.m. CST

    and now that joans hubby

    by JaredP

    is off to vietnam, most likely to be killed, that frees her up to have a hot lesbian tryst with peggy or any secretary at the firm

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 1:05 a.m. CST

    No Venture Bros. TB?

    by Inexplicable_Nuclear_Balls

    Fuck, I missed it. If I had seen a link here on AICN I would have remembered. Shame on you Herc... I'm depending on you to baby me in every way possible. Fail.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 1:12 a.m. CST

    Joan looked hot in glasses and PJs

    by Tacom

    Man, that whole bit of them moving Miss Blankenship's body was hilarious.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 1:36 a.m. CST

    I just got to thinkin'...

    by JethroBodine

    Now that Peggy has been spending some time with her lesbian friend, maybe we'll hopefully see a return of Salvatore soon, is some way or another. That character was great, and Bryan Batt play(s/ed)him perfectly.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 1:39 a.m. CST


    by lock67ca

    Even when she kicks the bucket she's funny. And Roger's "Died the way she lived" line was classic.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 1:45 a.m. CST

    No wonder Cooper hangs out in the lobby...

    by lock67ca

    Did he say he doesn't have an office? I could have sworn he did. Isn't it odd that the senior partner is the only one without a office? :-)

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 2:28 a.m. CST

    cooper doesnt need an office

    by brabon300

    he is now a figurehead<p>does anyone know who directed? cant find it on imdb

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 2:32 a.m. CST

    joan in a pajama top

    by brabon300

    looked like two midgets wrestling<p> and those swedish dykes were in for a real treat<p>fuck you hbo...if you had picked up that show, that entire scene would have been left in

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 4:48 a.m. CST

    young kids masturbating

    by Bass Ackwards

    A lot of people jump to the molestation *which Weiner has plainly said is the direction he's not going," the more obvious answer, especially after this episode, is that children who begin masturbating at an early age often due so due to growing up in a chaotic household. Its a manifestation of their needs for and limited ability to access withdrawal/ escape/control in those kind of situations.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 4:50 a.m. CST

    Episode was directed by Michael Uppendahl

    by Bass Ackwards

    Also in my above posted, I have no idea why I put those quote marks in the middle of my sentence, i wasn't quoting anyone.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 6:58 a.m. CST

    "Don't want to see Joan naked"

    by SithMenace

    That's about the funniest thing I've ever heard. To all of you calling her fat, you know if she showed up in your basement naked and ready to party, you'd blow your load before she even touched you. Inconceivable.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 7:11 a.m. CST

    What's the big deal with Sally.?

    by cookylamoo

    I know a lot of gay men who grew up masturbating to "Leave It to Beaver" Ahh, that Tony Dow.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 8:09 a.m. CST

    No Pete Campbell AGAIN!...

    by DanielKurland

    Next episode better be ALL him, guys.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 8:17 a.m. CST


    by dukeroberts

    Well, we know they weren't spanking it to "the Beaver". Ba-dum-dum-ching!

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Crap, only four left

    by The McPoyle Clan

    Pete did have a small role...and made the most of while out of focus and without a line of dialog.<p><p>Looks like there's more Megan next week, which isn't a bad thing.<p><p>Rubicon may well turn out to be a Rube-a-con, but it's hard to look away at this point.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 8:25 a.m. CST

    There was a 666 on one of the buildings outside of Don's office

    by Goon Bighead

    this show is run by the devil. Jessica Pare has lost a ton of weight since I last saw her making out with Piper Perabo in that lesbo movie.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Rubicon and Jessica Pare

    by dukeroberts

    I would love it if there were a Rubicon TB. I think it's too much to ask for at this point. It will all start to come together this coming Sunday. Jessica Pare is still a tasty treat. So is Piper Perabo for that matter.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Sooooo Peggy lez friend is one cuz a guy(s) treated her bad?

    by leo54304

    Haven't we all been in a bad relationship and still stayed on the same team?<br> <br> Yet the way Peggy's friend acts and dresses as a male indicates she doesnt want to be hurt by men anymore so she's decided to be one. And is a lez because of the way men have hurt her. <br> <br> Way she treats and what she thinks of men, her calling is that of a dominatrix. <br> <br> Only watched the show 4 times, so I'm a newbie.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 9:31 a.m. CST

    To answer the Mamet question above...

    by Mostholy

    The gal playing Joyce, Peggy's lesbian friend, is his daughter. She's also Mia Wasikowska's best friend in THE KIDS ARE ALL RIGHT, although it took me awhile to figure out where I'd seen her before.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST

    "It will all start to come together"

    by The McPoyle Clan

    Is that speculation or based on some knowledge of the show?<p><p>Oh, and anyone else hate the crappy new IMDB layout that requires so much more scrolling?

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Mamet is a Neocon

    by happyboy

    and a Jew supremacist. Does that have anything to do with this episode? No but neither does whose daughter which actress is.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Finally Joan!

    by deelzbub

    s'about time. <P> But for all her wonderfullness, she is a realist, and does not want to be a cliche'.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 10:44 a.m. CST


    by Weasel

    Good lord, I hope the subtly hot Jessica Pare snags a significant story arc not only for this season's last few episodes, but well into the next. Her tenderness towards the near-insane Sally draper was heartbreaking. Used correctly, the "Megan" charater can inject a much needed jolt of human warmth into this series. And I'm hoping that Don Draper doesn't just use her and throw her away as he does with so many others. I'd love to see that cool facade of his shattered by actually falling in love with a woman. Besides, the poor bastard needs to get away fronm blondes for a while. Apparently they're bad luck for him. Oh, and for all you guys ragging on Joan for being "fat," here's a newsflash for you: that's how women are supposed to look. Yes, that's right. They're supposed to have hips, breasts and butts, unlike today's (snicker) "women" who have dieted themselves to the point where the knobs of their joints are bigger around then their arms or legs. Women, gentlemen, should be built for comfort, not speed!

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Ok--where's the Choppah?

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    I know some of you guys don't like him, but I consider The Choppah a good (albeit bugnuts) friend. <BR><BR>And TB seems so empty without him.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 11:03 a.m. CST

    95% of lesbians are butch

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    I'm sure that figure was arrived at scientifically, because it makes perfect sense ...<p>Un-sarcastically, what can I say but another great episode. It's getting hard to talk about this show.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST

    DanielKurkland Pete was in the episode

    by Tacom

    He helped cover Miss Blankenship's body and get her out. What's funny was Joan asked Megan to "get a man" to help move the body and she brings Pete who couldn't even lift it out of the chair!

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Joan is near-perfect

    by deelzbub

    If she were fat, there's no way she could've done it standing up. Although I am surprised she didn't give Roger another heart attack.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Note Harry showed up, too

    by BizarroJerry

    Joan suggested they get a blanket he had in his office. He was barely seen saying, "My mother made that!" Funny scene. And I like anything, no matter how awful, that can leave Don so distracted and flustered.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Re: 666 on the building outside Don's office window

    by callunah

    My husband claims that it's the building where DC Comics used to be. Can anyone confirm that?

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST

    I'll miss Miss Blankenship asking Don

    by skimn

    "ARE YOU GOING TO THE TOILET??" in that distinctive tone of hers. And I would think in the mid sixties, some homosexuals thought they were attracted to the same sex because of some harm that was done to them in the past by a prior relationship. It was only in 1973 when the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST


    by Thunderbolt Ross

    I loved that one line near the end "She looks so pudgy in pictures" or something to that effect. Just gloriously clueless.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 12:31 p.m. CST

    And does this mean no weekly Venture Bros

    by skimn

    TB?? LOVED the Sphinx (..Sphinx!!..)training montage. Nobody does a montage, the boys various deaths for example, like Venture.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 1:37 p.m. CST

    i've had a theory

    by harper54

    I've always thought that was Roger falling in the opening credits and yes I'm well aware that's it's only metaphorical but it could be the series finale too. Then last night he said he'd rather go splat than die like Ms. B.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 2:08 p.m. CST

    I too hope

    by Rodie

    that Sal makes a return to Sterling Cooper. The new art guy is ok, just sort of "there", but not very interesting. It would be great to have Sal return in the final episode of Season 4 after this guy screws up somehow. Maybe he has to work covertly or freelance and make himself scarce whenever Lee Garner comes around...

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 2:18 p.m. CST

    I hate it for Sally

    by deelzbub

    Thought she might have gotten through to the old man for a minute there. He probably feels like he has troubles enough as it is, w/o trying to raise a kid in the city.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 2:41 p.m. CST

    "That's RUM! Read labels!!"

    by Bob Loblaw Law Blog

    Best line of the night for me. I also loved the little waves that Don and Sally gave to each other... before things got ugly. I love little Sally Draper.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Growing up with Don Draper

    by skimn

    Every home scene with Don and the kids has Don on the couch reading the paper and the kids glued to the boob tube. Granted, I did the same as a preteen, but even my dad, who was emotionally distant like many of that period, took us out from time to time (miniature golf, camping, etc.).<p>And I do like spotting what the characters are watching..Joan watching The Patty Duke Show?

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 3:29 p.m. CST

    NEVER, fareal.

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    He'll be back. The Choppah wouldn't leave fo-evah.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    This show could go theoretically to about 1980

    by InActionMan

    At that point the Reagan backlash kicks in. <P> The producers would have to start skipping a few more years though. As great as Mad Men is, it is a rare TV show that can go more than seven seasons with out a big drop off in quality. <P> I at least want them to make it to 1975. I keep having this vision in my head of a mid 1970's Don Draper: Long hair, Side burns, porn stash, eyes like saucers coked-up out of his mind, driving his Chrysler Cordoba with the real Corinthian leather through a sleazy Pre-Giuliani Times Square full of hookers,pervs and porn marquees, a seventeen year old Disco Coke whore head lolling in the passenger seat while Sweet's "Fox on the Run" blares on the 8 Track.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 3:45 p.m. CST


    by JonChambers

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 3:47 p.m. CST

    BEFORE Anakin/Vader was miscast with the worst actor in the worl

    by JonChambers

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Harper 54

    by InActionMan

    Here's a link to a Paley Center Video about the "Man Men" credit sequence on You Tube. <P> Search You Tube for "Mad Men Paley Center" and you can find a lot of cool stuff to give you a "Mad Men" fix until next Sunday.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Who says 95% of all lesbians are butch? Moron, It's 97%!!!

    by JonChambers

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST

    30,000 Pederasts

    by cookylamoo

    Turn in to watch Sally Draper.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST

    The brilliant commentary continues.

    by Jayemel

    Roger continues to try to keep his life separate. "She died like she lived." and he doesn't want to die in the office. Why wouldn't someone want to die like they live? Why wouldn't Roger want to die in the office where he has spent all of his life? This false dichotomy he has constructed is exactly why he never ended up with Joan despite their obvious love for each other. <p> The whole point of the lesbian is to contrast her with the women of the series. She's where women in America are going philosophically (towards hatred of men) and the other three (four, if you include Betty) are where women are right now. That's the point of the end visual of them getting in opposite elevators at the end of the episode. <p> It's also the point of the three different plots. Joan is always on edge, feeling like she constantly has to defend herself. Peggy is proud of herself, but is constantly has guilt thrust upon her by others. Faye is smart and confident, but avoids addressing her insecurities by trying to psychologize everything. Feminism will appeal to all these different types of women. <p> Then there's Sally (and Betty). Sally is the next generation of women and we're beginning to see how feminism will appeal to her. Sally is very smart and realizes how messed up Betty is. She's also going to blame her father for not "saving her" by taking her out of the situation.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Re: 666

    by Goody2shoes

    That was probably 666 5th Ave, which runs parallel to 6th ave, which is what they're on. It's also within a couple blocks of the Time-Life bldg. Never noticed whether or not they have the numbers at the top of the building, guess I'll look for it next time I'm up that high in the area. As a side note, now that they're on 6th Ave (technically Ave of the Americas), are they still Mad Men? What about American Men? Nah.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Bob Loblaw as great as that exchange is

    by Xiphos_2

    The follow up was just as good.<p> Sally:"Is it bad?"<p> Don:"no not really" sounding and looking surprised as he dives in.

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 9:44 p.m. CST

    666 Fifth Ave was the home of DC Comics

    by OutsideChance

    ...for many years:

  • Sept. 20, 2010, 10:49 p.m. CST

    The McPoyle Clan

    by dukeroberts

    I have no prior knowledge about what will be happening on the show, aside from the previews for next week. In the preview, Mrs. Reumer and Will are seen talking to each other. Now they will be linked and their information will be shared. That's a given. The question is "When?" Another question is "What the hell is Spengler up to?" I am sure both will be answered in the finale (?). Why can't we have a Rubicon TB on here? Finally, I agree with you about the new IMDB. I hate it.

  • Sept. 21, 2010, 8:31 a.m. CST


    by The McPoyle Clan

    There is someone here who claimed to know what was going on, but I don't recall who.

  • Sept. 21, 2010, 5:50 p.m. CST


    by TopHat

    "Roger, its YOUR baby!" etc.

  • Sept. 22, 2010, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Roger would be cool with that

    by deelzbub