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The Behind the Scenes Pic of the Day has seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with today’s Behind the Scenes pic!
Today we once again delve behind the scenes of a Ridley Scott picture. We’ve featured Alien (twice) and now we have Blade Runner.
What grabs me about this particular BTS image is that you can feel the tone of the movie. The sets, the atmosphere… the tone wasn’t found in post, it was literally right there being photographed, not timed-in later.
You see in a lot of these images that sets are usually much brighter than they appear on film. Sometimes they’re so bright that you can’t recognize the scene. Some might not like this one because it really is almost a screen grab, just pulled back slightly so you can see the wires on the spinner… but I dig it more than seeing Harrison Ford standing with Ridley Scott (got one of those, too).
Here’s the pic! Click for the slightly bigger version!
If you have a pic you think should be included email me. I’m looking for the iconic, the rare or the just plain cool behind the scenes shots to feature here.
Tomorrow’s Behind the Scenes Pic also stems from this one. Trust me.
-Quint
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Previous Behind the Scenes pics:
- Alien
- Big Trouble In Little China
- Clash of the Titans
- Dr. Strangelove
- Sesame Street
- The Birds
- The Dark Knight
- Batman (1989)
- Batman: The TV Series
- Stephen King’s IT
- Raiders of the Lost Ark
- Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
- Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
- Superman
- The French Connection
- Tron
- The Road Warrior
- Ghostbusters
- King Kong (’33)
- The Empire Strikes Back (Luke with Slate)
- Rebel Without A Cause
- Taxi Driver
- Metropolis
- The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
- Tommy Chong Meets The Blues Brothers
- The Empire Strikes Back (Filming the Crawl)
- John Carpenter’s The Thing
- Jaws
- Die Hard
- Aliens
- Frankenstein Meets The Wolf Man
- The Howling
- Revenge of the Creature
- The Empire Strikes Back (Vader & Luke Duel)
- The Godfather
- Rambo III
- Vertigo
- Planet of the Apes
- Pan’s Labyrinth
- Labyrinth
- RoboCop
- The Adventures of Robin Hood
- Marathon Man
- Young Frankenstein
- Viva Las Vegas
- The Empire Strikes Back (Han driving a snow cat)
- Rio Bravo
- Giant
- Back to the Future
- The Time Machine
- War of the Worlds (1953)
- Alien (Chestburster)
- On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
- Dr. No
- The Twilight Zone
- Once Upon A Time In The West
- Lawrence of Arabia
- Star Trek: The Original Series
- The Empire Strikes Back (Luke in Wampa Cave)
- Edward Scissorhands
- The Warriors
- 2001: A Space Odyssey
- Fantastic Mr. Fox
- Requiem for a Dream
- The Princess Bride
- Hard Boiled
- Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)
- They Live
- The Empire Strikes Back (Tippet with Wampa)
- Dirty Harry
- Stark Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
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well played quinto.
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Blade Runner is one of my favorites.
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...from the '76 version of King Kong?
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Saw it once, fell asleep. The visuals are good, I guess.
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there isnt a more divisive geek movie then Blade Runner, between the "Yeah ,I get it, its just boring as fuck" crowd and the "Its genius" crowd.
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You're like 14 or so right? Attention span of a Gnat? You missed out on some of the greatest performances in Sci-fi film history. Not to mention groundbreaking, moody and alive visuals that continue to influence 90% of the Sci-fi we see today.
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of Harrison Ford and Rutger Hauer from back in the day would have been so much sweeter.
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haha i joke, I love this movie, although I still don't fully understand it...but thats what I love about it
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Is that your review? Oh, and you fell asleep? Really? Thanks for sharing that...oh, and GO FUCKING KILL YOURSELF! <P> It's because of half wits like you making up the majority of this god forsaken planets that we don't GET films like Blade Runner anymore.<P> Christ forbid that we should put any THOUGHT into our science fiction, instead let's just make paint by numbers action movie set in a science fiction-y universe #4,762. <P> Ridley Scott's masterpiece was so far ahead of it's time, that even today...it doesn't appear dated. Not one damn bit. The only way you can look at this film and say "Oh, yeah...this is from 1982" are the Atari and Pan-Am ads. <P> Blade Runner is an amazing filmmaker at the top of his game, capturing an actor on film at the zenith of his career, in a one of a kind story based on Philip K. Dick's masterpiece about what it means to be truly human.<P> But, yeah...that's all really boring and we should just get back to blowing stuff up real good. I weep for the future of cinema.
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Clearly his brilliance is lost on you.
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I've been meaning to tell you
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So many modern films look like they have been post processed in Photoshop by a 15 year old. It's painful to my eyes.
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as 'all those moments will be lost... like tears... in rain.'
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Sept. 16, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST
You really don't understand what Rutger Hauer was talking about,
by Peter Franks
The anger and the frustration that he felt at being created and only given such a short time, the fear not only of death, but of the loss of all that he had experienced and all that he had to share?<P> That despite him being the "bad guy" he had something to give...and that it was instead being ripped from him?
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Love the column but this pic is meh....Ive been sending you "iconic" shots of McQueen BTS on Nevada Smith, LeMans and The Getaway...CMON MAN, put up some McQueeen.....love ya man...
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on a finger, I mean french fry, from The Hitcher?
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a big fan of the movie. I'm one of those that was too young to watch it when it was released. But after having watched it last year, I agree that it was ahead of it's time and aged well, but I wouldn't say that it was riveting. I did feel somewhat bored watching it. And my conclusion to the hype this movie generates must be due to the cyberpunkish world of the movie, which I imagine must be the first movie to flesh it out so vividly; and also due to the robot/humanity theme of the movie, which I also imagine to be a new frontier in movies. In short, the movie treaded new areas, thus a milestone in movie history.
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that other geeks do? Or have you just copped a hipper-than-thou-everything-that's-popular-sux persona for the TBs? You even hate ESB, the subject of millions of fanboy ejaculations right?
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Oh wait... that's a full-scale practical model. My mistake.
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Oh fuck off moron. YES I DO. I just happen to like movies that a lot of you guys hate. Fuck off.
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...but Scott has done a Lucas on it and ret-conned it quite a bit. Yeah I am one of those morons..who still doesn't buy the Deckard as replicant thing that Scott has spent the last twenty or so years trying to get me to buy ( which if you read about, he decided just before the movie was finished shooting). Personally I think it weakens the whole "what it means to be human" point of the movie,and destroys the love story, though it makes it so much more "Dicksian" ( not a real word I know) and far less hopeful. But damn, when it pops up on TV don't I watch every minute of it...and then pop in my DVD to watch it again.I prefer the theatrical release, because I think sometimes happy accidents do happen and the narration works for me ( the only thing I would remove is the happy ending after the elevator), Gaff's monologue is the perfect denouement for that movie. That said, I do wish there was more thoughtful SCI-FI out there and less SCYFY crap...even with Scott strengthening the "replicant" plot point, I still love this movie and it is Scott at his best.
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I like ALL the SW movies, unlike you guys who hate all of them EXCEPT for ESB.
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The point is that life is fleeting and too short for any conscious being. Confronting one's own mortality is what makes us human. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>CHOPPED
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Attack ships firing off the shoulder of Orion. Was he buggin'? Was he on crack?
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is Snob your middle name?
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I now feel like one of those really old people who, when I was younger, used to chastise us for knowing nothing. <p> They were right, of course.
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It's a great pic and all but come on, try show us one something we ain't seen from the set. I dunno how about a pic of everyone wearing the "I hate Ridley" T shirts or whatever they where supposedy wearing one day. <p>And Tyrell was supposed to be a replicant too.
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"I like ALL the SW movies, unlike you guys who hate all of them EXCEPT for ESB." <p> ESB is the only genuinely great SW movie. The original is still damn good as well. The other four are various flavours of mediocrity peppered with occasional nice moments.
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Even Harrison Ford hates Blade Runner, so at least there's another person that hates it.
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I'm fascinated. Tell me, perhaps I can "illuminate"?
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I sometimes think that the profundity of the story is slightly overrated, while the mesmerizing, overpowering, hypnotic warm embrace of the visuals, the environments and (especially) Vangelis's extraordinary score are not given ENOUGH attention. It's the cinematic equivalent of drinking a tumbler of world-class scotch.
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K that is.<p>
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HA! You're such a liar.
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He was pissed at the hack job Warners was forcing on Ridley Scott and the tacked on narration they insisted on Ford adding.<P> So, yeah...it's just you, Locke.
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Listen to the commentary. Scott says that Ford really didn't enjoy naking the movie at all.
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on the theatrical cut, you can hear how pissed he is that he's even having to do it so simpletons can follow along with the story.
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Is where Deckard looks out from his deco balcony onto the street far below, with the spinner cruising along it, while one of Vangelis's many dreamy cues plays. <p> If you watch the assembly cut of the movie, with the temp score in some reels (Goldsmith, I think), it feels utterly weird, alien, shocking, because the music is so much more traditional. One of the things that makes BR so distinctive is that despite being set in what is in many respects a dark and dystopian world, the soundtrack always gives it an entirely different feel, almost encouraging us to see the beauty in everything.
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It's probably hard to evaluate a piece of artistic work objectively if you hated the process that created it.
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just ask Deckard's wife
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The beauty of Blade Runner is that it's can be appreciated by a wide variety of people for differing reasons: aesthetically( effects, mood, set design), for the story, for the acting....etc You don't have to "get" the themes to enjoy it(and heck for all I know I don't get them either but just think I do!)
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As UGG has said, Tyrell was a replicant. When Batty kills Tyrell by digging his thumbs into his eyes, metal springs and cogs were meant to shoot out of Tyrell's head (they even specially built this head). Batty then takes the elevator to the top of the pyramid and finds the real Tyrell, his body in a glass sarcophagus, long dead. These scenes were never shot (budgetary concerns, I think). It would have cool if they had been shot - what great extras they would have made, huh?
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That's probably why he didn't like it.
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Everyone knows that the BLADE RUNNER shoot was difficult and that Ford, Scott, et al had issues with the process. However, that by no means implies that Ford "hates" the final film (no matter the version).<P>Maybe you need to nuance your argument a little more.
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Sept. 16, 2010, 4:31 p.m. CST
Ok locke, geeze, calm down dude, my bad even, ok?
by ohsostupidlongassfuckingscreennames
Can you give some examples of these movies you like that "the rest of us" don't?
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With all the CG today, it's nice to see how it was done pre-CG. A crane actaully moves a full size vehicle around the set and Scott makes us think for a minute,(well me anyway)that he just built a flying car for the movie
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I had a blazing row on here years ago with someone over that.<p>Also dosen't Ford quite like the movie now that the VO was cut, I'm sure he say's that on the Dangerous Days doc?
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Why, you don't care, you're just going to insult me again.
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ever committed to film. A planet of industrial filth, ridiculously overpopulated, with a chinese-hybrid language and culture. Baring any Deux Machina miracles, this is undoubtedly the future of the planet.
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"When we started shooting it had been tacitly agreed that the version of the film that we had agreed upon was the version without voice over narration. It was a fucking nightmare. I thought that the film had worked without the narration. But now I was stuck re-creating that narration. And I was obliged to do the voice overs for people that did not represent the director's interests. I went kicking and screaming to the studio to record it."
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...that most of the planet's population will have left for the off-world colonies in nine years' time.
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So shut the fuck up about how he "hates" Blade Runner. You don't know what the fuck you're you're talking about.<P> For a change of pace.
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I think Back to the Future II minus the flying cars is pretty close to what we have now.
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And that photo is too.
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Sorry, I didn't know you were President of the Blade Runner fan club.
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To start off, this is a spiritual sequel to everything that happened in Alien, and I'm sure most of you know that already. <p> Now, to begin, I haven't seen any of Scott's movies, and I feel as though when I watch this movie that i've seen everything there is to see. The special effects are top notch, the action scenes as Mr. Pink (Reservoir Dogs) would say "you have to be professional when handling this type of job", and that was how it was times 10. The story and whole atmosphere sucked me in and I was hooked the whole time and then some. What's not to like here, seriously? <p> Now, for me, a person who doesn't watch SF movies that much, it was kinda hard to get into, but after 15 minutes I was completely hooked. <p> I mean, Who didn't go to the movies to see Brade Runner? I thought there would never be another good Harrison Ford picture, but I was wrong. I actually loved the plot and hope that the characters reveal more in the sequel! <p> My favorite movie of 1982, the 2nd and 3rdbeing The Thing and ET. This a really well made action movie that is really funny as well. The acting is good, and the special effects are amazing. Definitely worth seeing even if you don't like Scott. <p> You see, I typically don't give high marks for movies because I believe, a lot of times, there's room for improvement. But, if there is in this movie, I didn't see it. <p> This is an incredible ride! The story is fantastic, and drew me in to how it all came to be "Los Angeles 2019." Everything is tight and very well done. The cinematography is the BEST I've ever seen. <p> Not since 'The Black Hole' have I enjoyed a SF movie like I did this one. <p> It was just an awesome, exciting, fun, action-packed movie that is sure to entertain and satisfy the hell out of you. <p> Now I've always been more of a Stanley Kubrick fan. I never gave Scott a chance, until I saw this movie and it converted me! I thought it was going be just an average SF flick that focuses more on special effects than story and characters. But I was DEAD WRONG! <p> This film really discovers the dark roots of the characters you grew up watching and loving as kids. This film is not only the humorous and fun side of Deckard's world but also the dark side. The film has the best acting I've ever seen in an SF flick. The special effects are mesmerizing and the action scenes are totally out of this world! <p> I love this movie and it's the perfect summer film to watch. This is a must-see. This film will surly please hardcore fans and NON-fans alike. <p> You see, When you talk about kicking off a directorial career like Scott's, this one was done just fine. Deckard, Roy and Leon were cast perfectly; I thought they were great. <p> This movie nearly destroyed my surround sound system, what a loud movie! Plenty of action and special effects power. <p> Purists might argue over Deckard's past, even events surrounding Roy's plans. But its easy to look past minor details and enjoy a wildly entertaining movie. <p> Ask yourself: Why is Tyrell such an insufferable yet cuddly tyrant? Why is Roy so irritating yet strangely accessible? Could Deckard be a bigger worry-wort or fast friend? Can anything really "retire" Leon? And, what about this Pris? Never has such a cunning linguist graced our screens. <p> For a true Scott fan (no, not Black Rain, not Alien, or that abomination issued under the same franchise), this is something of a Holy Grail. The legend unfolds under a different time-line. How clever is that? And, Joe Turkel reprises his role and becomes a legend within a legend. How often does that happen? <p> In the first Scott SF film, Alien, Scott surrenders the restraint. This film brings us full circle to the the heroic majesty - twenty first century man battles an alien force - of that original flick. There is no surrender, here. Diplomacy issues from the working end of a gun. <p> To quote Roy Batty: "I want more life, fucker!" <p> I have to agree with a lot of critics. This was a very well done movie that will win over any skeptics. The actors did a fantastic job playing the characters the world knows and loves; making their interpretation of the characters unique, without hurting the legend created by the actors who were formerly in the roles. A well written story that allows for many more villains that the timeline of the original novel would not have done. <p> It did what Philip K. Dick would have loved to have done. People might think he wouldn't like this but I think the opposite. I think he would have loved it and would have thought he was dreaming when watching it if he was still alive.
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Sweet! Does that mean we'll have those awesome lighted umbrellas?!
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WOW! You didn't say A Team once in that whole review!
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BR still looks amazing. Trumbull's stuff is so distinctive because of all the internal light sources he uses that blast shards of illumination outwards from inside the moving objects. One of the reasons why Star Trek The Motion Picture still looks incredible in places.
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Asian with a Latino twist. Hey, just like Edward James Olmos' character.
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kudos brotha!
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today, Mr, Nice Gaius.<P> http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/d163/ <P> You're welcome. :)
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No one apparently.
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I'm still asleep when all the "enhance 34 to 46.... pull back, move in, go right" stuff is happening but as soon as that great appregio crash kicks in I wake up with a smile...until I realise I'm not in Los Angeles, November 2019.
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Ha! Awesome.
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You fanboy children will never understand.
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One way or another.
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The majority of this pictures are available on the net or in "making of" books, so what's the purpose of them taking up bandwidth here? Didn't realize AICN was in need of filler.
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10 bucks says he's never seen Blade Runner.
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Back the fuck away from these Talkbacks! you unoriginal piece of fucking Lama shit!!!!
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Breaking developments: <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>You have all been CHOPPED!
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Dude it's "llama," you twit.
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The Black Hole was good.
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No, he didn't rehash my paragraph on Beverly Hills Cop for that one. But everything is a rehash of some dude's various reviews on a Rotten Tomatoes page: <P> "Now I've always been more of a Star Wars fan. I never gave Star Trek a chance, until I saw this movie and it converted me! I thought it was gonna be just an average Sci-fi flick that focuses more on special effects than story and characters. But I was DEAD WRONG! This film really discovers the dark roots of the characters you grew up watching and loving as kids. This film is not only the humorous and fun side of Star Trek but also the dark side. The film has the best acting I've ever seen in a Sci-Fi flick. The Special effects are mesmerizing and the action scenes are totally out of this world! I love this movie and it's the perfect summer film to watch. This is a must-see. This film will surly please hardcore fans and NON-fans alike. Definitely one of the top 5 best movies of the year."
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I don´t even know which one to watch any more :__
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all of them.
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The BR soundtrack is one of the few where I really like the spliced-in dialogue. It feels seamless, organic. It just works. Love that arpeggio crash as well. It's as though the room you're in just doubled in size.
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Is better than here and now. It has to be..
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I am on the wine here in little old England and I felt like getting CHOPPED!.......even still! your nothing to me Chop Stick!!
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I have it on now, man it's amazing, I sometimes put on Bladrunner Blues when I've had a hard day at work and sip at a small glass of scotch, or a fat joint.
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It looks like they added a whole bunch of CGI crap to it. Give me the original Director's Cut DVD over the Hi-Def any day.
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Well I like YOUR hooters Sean.<p>
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Sept. 16, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST
I have yet to insult you Locke...
by ohsostupidlongassfuckingscreennames
All I've done thus-far is ask some somewhat snarky questions. I'm sincerely interested to know what makes someone, who posts the stuff you do, tick.
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I will not let you commit hari kiri at the hands of your pussy hands.<P>Allow me to help me twist the blade into your anus and pump it in and out until pus oozes.
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I can't remember any of it looking crap. Also when I watched the re-release in the cinema the other year, the thing that stuck out for me was all the awesome added sound's. It brought a Forbidden Planet vibe to it.
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WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!<P>WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!<P>**cue soothing sounds from sting**
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anything, something, maybe some awesome slayer pic?
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Sept. 16, 2010, 5:02 p.m. CST
That still looks better than the actual shot from the movie.
by Royston Lodge
In the actual shot the movement of the cop car looks really awkward when it takes off. It doesn't really look natural, and the smoke from the exhaust doesn't look like it's the right scale or something.<p> As a still, however, it looks really awesome.
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Hahahaha! you are officially my fucking hero!......No British sarcasm included!.....Where do I sign up?
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anybody know when his last full original score was?
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I agree with smackfu on the films prescience.
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is the coolest fucking thing ever created and the next version will include voit-com capability and the ability to look at things in photographs that couldn't possibly exist at any resolution around corners and shit.It practically has anti-grav because you can throw it in that case and not worry
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Sept. 16, 2010, 5:09 p.m. CST
Another predictable choice for the 'behind the scenes pic'
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave
Try something more original or obscure Quint, because your tastes are incredibly narrow. Yes, Blade Runner is a masterpiece. And with pretty much a near unanimous consensus as such from the geek crowd. Which also means that this talkback will be incredibly dull. Get something more obscure or divisive up there. And, no - in the latter case that doesn't mean the SW prequels.
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Chazz Hopper, rush president, damn glad to meet ya.
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http://tinyurl.com/2c2zv3o
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Welcome to CHOPPAHdom, my son
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Here comes the gravy pipe!
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you can't come in. I have yet to make you cry. Then and only then will you pass the Trial by CHOPPAH!!!!
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the chemical works in Teesside (north east England) where I live and where Sir Riddley attended art college. I shit you not, it looks exactly the fucking same with the towers and flames etc!..its well known and documented...So basically I see the Blade runner LA sky every night over here..........bummer!
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whcih i ilke even mroe than khan or runner.
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Just what is your purpose exactly? Oh, wait...don't answer that. To 'CHOP', right? I CHOP, therefore I am? CHOP this, ya time wasting cunt!
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you dirty little slut!
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That when you look into THE CHOPPAH, THE CHOPPAH also looks into you<P>His name was vic morrow
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By Roy was definitely disturbing and effective. A great dystopian mood piece this one.
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Blade Runner? Please.
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It's hard to CHOP doodoo, so I'll just smear ya!
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Do you mean Voight-Kampff?
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CG???? no way... I have the blu-ray... just never watched it.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/17/movies/17affleck.html?hp
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are awesome
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So many cunts around tonight. I'm looking at you chumppah.
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The only bit's I recall are things like more rain and touching up on the Cityscape shots, and putting Joanna Cassidy's head on the stunt woman. There's probably more but nothing bad that I remember
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I'm with you: the original theatrical version is best.
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Evening, J.F.! <p> Those little robot toys give me the heebie-jeebies. I don't know why.
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but my nerdiness isn't what it used to be. I'm getting older and I just can't be bothered with such precision nerd accuracy anymore. But I did observe today that the name Astro-Mech Droid is simply the ultimate thing you could call an astronaut's robot sidekick. Such realizations come upon me like a load of bricks sometimes. I'm sure I've observed the notion before long ago..
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I love the Mexican vacation ads up there. <p> Come to Mexico! We have more room than ever!
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Shows how mindless some people are when it comes to CGI and revisionism. Blade Runner Blu-Ray isn't a case like the SW special editions or anything like it. All that was corrected were a few audio/continuity errors and a CGI matte painting when Batty releases the dove. It's revisionism done right and with discretion, and I wouldn't mind a few other classic genre films getting the same minor enhancements in certain places, just to smooth out mistakes and slightly improve wanting effects shots.
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movie of all time.
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the flame lord and the normal guy!
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If you're not CHOP, you're little people!
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you sir are truly the straw that stir's the drink around here! and for that i salute/respect/fear you!
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Sept. 16, 2010, 5:45 p.m. CST
Blade Runner is NOT an accurate prediction of the future.
by Royston Lodge
Cracked.com had a good little article about the most common sci-fi futures and why none of them will ever happen:<p> http://tinyurl.com/2acwpgp<p> Here's the description that applies to Blade Runner:<p> "A Sprawling Urban Hell-Slum: Defining Features: A crime rate so high that if you're not currently being robbed, it's only because you're robbing someone else; a beseiged police force desperate to keep the scum under control; rampant drug use to escape the harsh reality of living in a genre stereotype; corrupt businessmen feeding off the suffering of the poor; living spaces that make New York studio apartments look like the Louvre; subtle signs of globalization's aftermath (i.e., lots of Asian food and possibly gigantic advertisements featuring Asian women)."<p> Now, Cracked's argument for why it will never happen isn't any good (modern razor technology means there's no reason for men to have scruffy beards), but I can think of a few:<p> 1) The big, rich cities like Los Angeles (where Blade Runner takes place) are getting cleaner over time, not dirtier. When urban societies advance they tend to take better care of their (IMMEDIATE) surroundings, and they have increased resources at their disposal to do so.<p> The pollution seen in Blade Runner could maybe be attributed to a high-growth developing city like those in China and India, but even Beijing was able to (temporarily) clean up its atmosphere for the Olympics thanks to the government's total control ("Everybody stop driving for the next couple of months! We gotta make the place look nice for the tourists!")<p> After all, where is all the pollution in Blade Runner coming from? It's not from cars. We see very few cars in the movie. I assume either most people are too poor for cars or car ownership has been strictly regulated by the future government.<p> Instead, we see the pollution coming from giant industrial factories ... in downtown Los Angeles. Wait, what?!<p> America doesn't manufacture shit anymore. That's all done in places like China. What the heck happened to the economy that makes giant smoke-spewing factories in the middle of Los Angeles a viable corporate practice? Hell, even if the US doesn't import anything anymore in the future, there's LOTS of better places inside the continental US where you could build giant smoke-belching factories, like the big patches of free space in the middle of the continent. The deserts of Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and Arizona would be a way better places for evil corporations to build evil factories. Los Angeles is the last place the evil corporations would try to destroy. Los Angeles is full of super-rich, granola-eating, media-savvy celebrities. To turn Los Angeles into the city from Blade Runner would require way more resources than any evil corporation would bother to expend when they can simply build their evil factories somewhere less conspicuous.<p> 2) Older, bigger, established cities tend not to "build big" the way newer, developing cities do. As such, a city like Los Angeles is far less likely to be filled with the kind of corporate arcologies that we see in Blade Runner than in high-growth developing cities, again like those in China or India.<p> The last time a super-tall structure was built in North America was the CN Tower in Toronto. Yes, the Freedom Tower in NYC is on the way, but it's totally a special case. It's being built on principle, not because there's a business case for its existence.<p> The only super-big structures built recently in North America are sports stadiums.<p> If you want to see enormous office towers you have to go to China, Malaysia, or Dubai. If you want to see enormous manufacturing plants full of oppressed workers, again you have to go to China or Malaysia.<p> 3) If the city in Blade Runner is a city in decline, it should be falling apart and it shouldn't be the headquarters of the premiere robotics company on the planet. Look at Detroit. It's a shit hole, but it doesn't look like Blade Runner's vision of Los Angeles. Detroit isn't over-crowded, it's virtually abandoned. Detroit WISHES it had factories pumping pollution into the air. They all closed down years ago! Detroit isn't the headquarters for the premiere company of any industry. It's the headquarters of the three shittiest and least-innovative car companies in the World.<p> 4) Why would average, everyday people in North America have to learn Asian languages? That implies that there has been a massive amount of immigration from the far east to North America, but immigration from those areas is pretty flat because their economies are the ones that are growing these days. If you want to be a big success in business it helps to learn Asian languages, but it's also more likely that future North American professionals would be emigrating to China and Japan rather than staying in Los Angeles. Given the predictable demographic trends, the language of the street in Blade Runner should be a mixture of English and Spanish, not English and Japanese.<p> At the end of the day, the way Los Angeles is portrayed in Blade Runner really doesn't make any sense. If the factories are going full blast and the economy is really good, that means that the people who live there should be pretty wealthy and, as such, would demand a clean local environment from their leaders. On the other hand, if the economy has gone to shit then the factories would be shut down and wouldn't be belching their pollution into the air.<p> In Blade Runner we see a vision of Los Angeles where the most powerful robotics corporation in the world has chosen the city for its headquarters and there are massive factories seemingly working at full capacity, implying that the economy is good. The streets are ludicrously narrow and are FULL of pedestrians which implies that the city enjoys a high population. And yet we see that there are apartment buildings that are nearly deserted, implying that the economy ISN'T very good AND that the population has actually crashed.<p> It really makes no sense at all.<p> In the future of the real world, there will indeed still be pollution, but it won't be in the big, popular cities where the rich people live like Los Angeles. Instead, we've exported our polluting industries to Mexico and the far east! That's why North American cities are NICER places to live today than they were when Blade Runner was first released.
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Oh, a grain of sand is all I ever wanted to be Lay me down and let the water wash all over me Wash right on o-over me Mickey Newberry
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i love blade runner, a lot!
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I or me?
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dirty mary,crazy lary (vic morrow)r.i.p. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0xE-68P4ao
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no cgi!
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...and I love cyberpunk in general. But the usual vision of how American will look in a cyberpunk future is usually really really wrong.<p> Ironically, I think the only cyberpunk-esque property that got the look sort of right was that dreadful TekWar series with Greg Evigan. It had evil corporations, and crime, and drugs, and hackers, and all that jazz. But everything LOOKED really nice. The buildings looked nice, the roads were maintained, the grass was lush and green, the cars were electric, etc.<p> After all, it's way easier for an evil corporation to keep an educated population under control if it manufactures a pleasant environment for them. That way they're more likely to reward the evil corporation with their consent.
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nice post about The Final Cut e.g. "revisionism done right" well said sir
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my first dvd i ever bought. :)
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any more perfect, is if they'd included the yub-yub song at the end. Missed opportunity that was...
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talks out of his ass all the time on here. Especially about Blade Runner.
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we've all seen this one before, and you can do better with your mighty resources, all the movies you are picking are hallmark selections, let's see something from El Topo or some shit, love you man
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all this time i thought he said,"I want more life . . . fucker" damm!
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Hey, as long as you read, it makes it all worthwhile.
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Get the bong! some crazy shit!
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I saw it when I was 10 and thought it was boring. I saw it in a film class when I was 20 and didn't get it. It is time to revisit it yet again, with my more mature, more knowledgeable brain.
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I want to see BTS pictures from Harry and the Hendersons! No? Okay.
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always works for me dukeroberts!
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...he does it all the time - on any talkback he'll say the opposite to everyone else, just to seek attention.
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I respected it and all, but it was never at the top of my dvd shelf.
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So I'm a troll for hating Blade Runner?
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and really thought it was not good. <p> I appreciate it visually and all, just thought it was pretty boring and not-even-very-effectivly-yet-still-annoying-pretentious. <p> Then, last year I forced myself to watch it one last time, promising that if I still didn't like it, I'd never bother with it again (you can only give a film so many chances, right?) and y'know what, I was in Shanghai, I sat down with a pizza at about 2am and watched the damn thing. And found it electrifying. Really great - and the end had me staring open-mouthed. I mean - how weird is that?
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how do you feel about sephs comments yesterday that you are basically just Matt Damon from Team America?
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FUCK YEAH!!!
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I had a similar experience with the first ACE VENTURA. Saw it with some friends of mine in the theater. Had I been driving, I would've walked the hell out. HATED IT. <p> Tried it again when it hit home video, just to see if I had misjudged it. HATED IT. <p> Then, a few years back, over at a buddy's place with 4 or 5 others...they put that movie in, against my objections. But y'know, majority rules and all that. It just clicked. I laughed my ass off. Really. Still haven't found the damn thing.
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I was expecting to GET CHOPPED for that one
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can connect with a viewer/reader at a later date is pretty simple. The fact of the matter is that if you look at the
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it's weird how that happens. <p> I mean I actually really didn't get the love for BR. It wasn't that I didn't GET it, it just never affected me at all. <p> And then, on the 6th and FINAL viewing, there it was. I didn't force myself to like it, it just kinda worked for me in a way it never had before. <p> What a lovely story.
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you beat me to the Harry tribute post. Didn't mean to look like a copy cat. That's twice I've done that today.
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...Cuervo Gold and that fine Columbian...
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I feel a special bond now. Can we be faceless internet friends?
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it had virtually run out of steam - then he popped in to say 'he left it there for our benefits'. <p> classic.
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careful or you'll have Jehovahs_Witness in here calling you a 'ballsack licker'. <p> but yeh, internet buds.
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Fuckers at pizza hutt said they don't make the Bigfoot anymore. I told them it was for me and they apologized and said they would give it to me free
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me being basically just Matt Damon from Team America?<p>Ben Affleck wanted me to ask you.
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They put in more than a little CGI and also re-shot some scenes. Including putting Joanna Cassidy through the windows. That's right, they put her old ass in the skimpy suit and shot her scene again, they did not CGI her head. Although I'll give her props, she was rather proud of herself for going through it all.
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it's all just words on a screen. <p> Except THE_CHOPPAH. That's holy writ. Maybe holy shit! writ.
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Still love the original with the narration and the bittersweet noir end.
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Sept. 16, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST
That's the beauty of BladeRunner, HerpesTrigimanosis...
by THE_CHOPPAH
There's a version for everyone...
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Montalban had a very muscular physique in his youth and knew how to train to get it back for TWOK. Nobody questions if Schwarzenegger was real in Terminator 3. (Or do they?)
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...except RPLocke. But he doesn't really count now does he?
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There's 100 different DVDs of Army of Darkness too, that doesn't make it good.
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That is kinda the point isn't it? We'll never know, robbed of this persons unique experience and knowledge by what for all of us is an all too fleeting life; all we are left with are questions as to whom they really were deep down, what they knew, what they had seen; and more importantly who are we, and what are WE going to do with the time that we have left.</p><p>Personally, I think that is perhaps the finest scene ever filmed in any genre...</p><p>Or..it might have just been a toss off scene they threw in there during a coke fueled writing session to try to find a way to end it..I dunno
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Almost as funny as your pathetic little excuse for a life...almost.
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THE_CHOPPAH has the AMAZING power of self induced selective amnesia...<p>I forget what I want to forget...
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A regular bottom feeder. One that from your lofty perch would be quite hard to see skulking around way way down below. You are wise to forget about him Lord Chop, like I'm sure his mother tries and probably fails to on a daily basis.
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Read Altered Carbon by Richard K Morgan, amazing cyberpunk novel set in 2300-2500? Very violent, very realistic (for a futuristic novel) and very noir. Great book.
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Your words please THE_CHOPPAH.<p>I will monitor your career with much interest.<p>The CHOP seems strong with you...But, I must see you in CHOPPIN' ACTION!!!
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Sept. 16, 2010, 8:33 p.m. CST
You can thank Hauer for one of cinema's perfect moments...
by Billyeveryteen
He wrote "Tears in Rain" and sold it with that sly smile.
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I plan on seeing it again, so which version should I watch?
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...the Blade Runner blu-ray had optional commentary by THE_CHOPPAH. I also wish the same for The Land Before Time.
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going back in time and rewriting history trying to convince his earlier self that he had always wanted Decker to be a replicant? <BR><BR> The biggest retroactive bullshit I've ever seen in a movie... well other than Han Shooting first and Luke's scream
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Sept. 16, 2010, 9:26 p.m. CST
RPlockesbrokenlegs is a raging Troll...Also fourteeen
by Robots In Das Guys
If you stare at his posts directly you will be TROLLED.
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The stupid bitch scream. Lucas was on crack for adding that, which i think has been removed from the SEs now, thankfully. <BR> And of course I meant to spell the name Deckard BTW... 10 years on this site and we still don't have an edit button
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...and I'm not impressed. Hopefully the movie is effectively made, yet it really does have a "oh, okay, the Devil was that person" reveal instead of anything more creative and interesting. I guess it's another movie with a trailer that makes me think of more creative reveals for it than it actually has.
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Quote: "10 bucks says he's never seen Blade Runner."<P>Dude, I've seen it so many times that it's become background music to me.<P>Meanwhile, I've got $10 bucks that says that you're an utterly useless Talkbacker.
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Yeah, I know you like crap movies.
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I can see your 24 hour/7 day a week AICN Talkback vigil is just as strong as ever. Let me guess...you really love the F5 button.<P>Speaking of crap movies, how's that TRANSFORMERS 3 shaping up for ya?
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Pretty damn good, thanks. How's that Let the Right One In 2 coming along?
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Douche.
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DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!
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A lot.
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Ever notice that the line Deckard plays back when listening to a recording of the interview is NOT the line that Leon actually says at the time? It's a completely different emphasis...much more aggressive (the playback). In the actual interview scene it's much calmer. <p> Also, when Deckard takes a hard copy of the image of Zhora reflected in the mirror, it's a totally different angle from the image we see on the screen.
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"That's right, they put her old ass in the skimpy suit and shot her scene again, they did not CGI her head" <p> My understanding is they shot her going through some glass, and then CGId her head from that shoot onto the stuntwoman in the original footage.
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I know I know, I say that everyday, I happen to enjoy the picture of the day Excellent choice Quint! ;) <p> <p> In regards to RPBoy, why doesn't everyone just ignore him, he never brings anything to the talkbacks that suggests any kind of intelligence at work. Every classic movie pictured in this column he says he "doesn't get" But he loves the prequels like they are the best movies ever filmed. I'd call him retarded again, but I feel like that's too insulting to actual retarded people
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Read the book once... The movie is reallyyy fucking lame in comparison
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but damn, come up with a photo that's actually interesting.
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Disagree completely.
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Waaah, he said something nasty about Boring Runner. waaah. Yeah, and it's always the same five people posting in the talkbacks saying the same old shit.
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The original screenplay and boards are perfect. They fully realized the concept. However the thing has always been missing an anti-grav car chase. Otherwise the floating cars are just complete window dressing. You have all these great establishing shots but they kinda fizzle out. Batty should have tried to ram him with a spinner or something.
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cool besides getting around and establishing that dreamy mood when one takes off.
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Why did you go on and on about what would really happen to a real city in the future with regard to population levels, urban decay, pollution, etc, etc? Blade Runner is based on a science fiction novel set in a world a few years after a nuclear war has generated a lot of radiation in the atmosphere (obviously the war took place somewhere else in the world, which is why LA isn't a pile of nuked ashes). All those blimps are advertising off-world colonies to folks who want to get away from the radiation levels on Earth. When Leon is tested for being a replicant in the interview at the start of the movie he is asked questions about animals dying to see if this causes a human reaction in him - this is because nearly all real animals have died out (due to the radiation levels), hence the introduction of fake snakes, owls, etc. Now, Ridley didn't include all this background information in the movie adaptation, but that's why the world has this negative vibe about it: it's been f**ked up by nuclear war. Royston, all you had to do was read DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP?
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And because of the whole concept of it, everything pieced together makes it so... you just have to listen to the music of Vangelis and you're hooked for life! http://movienews.pipeno.com/
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Tortoise? What's that?
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why are there 8 versions of it?<P>the only other film i know that has that many cuts is WOLVERINE.
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Sept. 17, 2010, 7:53 a.m. CST
I want RIdley Scott to make an action-SEQUEL to BLADE RUNNER
by JDanielP
A flying car chase and everything!
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...maybe Scott can get some input from the "King of the World", himself. :-) <P>By the way, I love BLADE RUNNER.
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Sept. 17, 2010, 8:08 a.m. CST
It's always been obvious Royston, but your "dystopia"...
by Skyway Moaters
... post warrants a repeat: You are a fucking idiot. Please shut up.
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FACT
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all these movies can easily be put in the same universe without causing many inconsistencies.
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replace Avatar with Empire Strikes Back (or even Star Wars "New Hope") and I will drink your Kool Aid. Augment the list with 2001, Close Encounters, Silent Running, Planet of the Apes, Logans Run and I will totally join your club.
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BR has relevence and not to mention that it is still a better film than JC's Avatar. In both Story and scope without coming off preachy or pretentous like Avatar.
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i dont remember seeing someone shouting to the audience during the whole movie,how good the aliens are and how evil the humans.but what do i know about movies?
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Ezzactly--what Rutger was talking about was humanity. The irony being it took a replicant to make the film's most astute observations about mortality. <p> The visuals are great, but fuck I love that Vangelis soundtrack.
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I thought Batty said to Tyrell before thumbing his eyeballs; "I want more life Father"<p>Now I have to ffwd to that scene but with "Subtitles On". (pun intended.)
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It's great how depressed Sean Young gets after learning she's not really human. It's like being told you're terminally ill, only worse; you never even got the chance to BE HUMAN. You're just a shadow of it, with memory implants and pieces-parts grown or synthesized in labs
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It depends which version you see. It's either Father or Fucker.
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apparently they were really at each others' throats during the whole production. If that's the case, I wish more great actors and directors would spat--because it makes for great fucking art.
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I always imagined ALIEN, ALIENS and BLADE RUNNER in the same universe. I love the shot of the spinner dashboard that shows the word "purge." The same graphics were shown on the NOSTROMO when it separated from its payload over LV426.<p>This movie moves me more and more every time I see it. Watch how devastated Rachel is to find out she's a replicant. Five minutes before Decard tests her, she was just another nine-to-five gal. After he tests her and especially at his apartment she realizes that everything she ever experienced - love, sex, anger, friendship, laughter - were just memory implants. She was still in the room and walking away when Deckard and Tyrell talk about her like she is a factory widget.<p>"Suspect? How can it not know what it is?"<p>"Commerce is our goal here at Tyrell. More human than human is out motto. Rachel is an experiment...nothing more." When she heard that...man.<p>Batty and Pris seem to be of a different mold. They don't care HOW they came to be. They're human goddammit.<p>"I think, Sebastian. Therefore, I am."<p>The fact that Roy Batty could experience moments of trancendence that we all experience from time to time - that he was moved by beauty - shows that he is human.<p>"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...all those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."<p>He knows that things are precious because they're fleeting. He kisses Pris with lust because he knows he only has a short time with her.<p>When he killed Tyrell, he had nothing left. He'd killed his god. What to do now? Burn yourself out in one last glorious burst.<p>Fiery the angels fell indeed.
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Preachy as in the Movie was obviously compared to the US occupation of Iraq with ulterior motives (resources i.e. Oil),respecting indigenous populations (the joking comparisons to Dances with Wolves have some validity after all.)and pretentous because JC's Opus seems a bit rehashed and IMO is derivative of previous concepts instead of being a totally original idea. Well, like the man (Cameron) said, only I'm allowed to imitate my works.<p>BR may have been based from a Novel/short story, but the production values made it original enough to stand out on it's own.Same goes for Carpenter's The Thing.Avatar is a good film, but not worth a third viewing wheras I can watch BR more than 5 times and discover things that i havwe previously overlooked.(and the various cuts of the film makes it more interesting.)
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Sept. 17, 2010, 12:19 p.m. CST
Avatar is Bush League, Blade Runner is professional
by Big_Coffin_Hunter
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Or at least 2x better. Blade Runner was well done but not a great script.
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It's the reason Scott is coming back to sci-fi, suckers. Let's hope he brings his A-game.
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I'm looking forward to the futuristic city scenes that are going to be in the extended Blu-ray cut in November. Fairly brief from what I understand, nevertheless it will be Cameron's nod to Blade Runner, and there is some anime influence in there as well. Maybe there will be substantial portions set on future earth in the sequel.
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the unclear stuff with the horse and the apparent indecision on the part of the director as to whether Decker is a replicant is passed along into the performances. but as far as being a mood piece, creating a world and and an atmosphere, it's excellent.
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You guys may think it's 2x better than 'Runner and that's fine and dandy but it's no where in the same league as Alien(s) or Total Recall to a lesser extent.There were parts in the film that I was expecting a song like Disney's Pocohantas Colors of the wind to break out.The pacing is a bit flawed.Now that Avatar is a success, this may kill off any plans for Cameron to film Battle Angel. I take it that Jim isn't really interested in making movies based on intellectual properties.first spiderman, now Angel. (Dark Angel series doesnt even cut it.)
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Avatar was the big, shiny, ornately-dressed box under the Christmas tree that we couldn't wait to unwrap. What was inside was discarded two weeks later and hasn't been played with since.
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He said so recently. It may - and I do stress the word may - be his next movie, even before the Avatar sequels.<p>Also, I like Spider-man as much as the next guy, would loved tto have seen his version - but since when has Spider-man been intellectual? The reason he didn't make that one was because of tangled legal rights and Carolco going belly up; not really his fault.
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Still don't know what the hell it's about.
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CRL [cracked a rib laughing]
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Sept. 17, 2010, 1:46 p.m. CST
Obi Ben, just what the fuck is your problem?
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave
How exactly would a futuristic cityscape in any movie not be a nod to Blade Runner? You cannot avoid it. Particularly so since Cameron is a major fan of Scott, and like Alien, was deeply influenced by Blade Runner, and he has stated as much. Does it not follow that he would be doing his own take on that design wise in a comparable area, as well as filtering other influences, such as anime like Akira?<p> Shut the fuck up you ignorant cretin, and restrain yourself from continuing to jump on my perfectly reasonable posts in future. I think you are still nursing hurt feelings from being raked over the coals by me in the past - well, live with it!
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I couldn't have said it any better.
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BLADE RUNNER was NOT the first movie to have future cityscaoe. Please watch Metropolis, thanks.
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In 10 years,when you mature somewhat, maybe you'll understand it's synopsis and storytelling but in the meantime "junior" go watch Silverhawks while eating your Cocoa Puffs. M'kay?
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Sept. 17, 2010, 1:59 p.m. CST
RPLocke, I'm well aware of Metropolis
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave
And it was undoubtedly an influence on Scott's picture. However, as far as modern genre depictions of futuristic urban dystopias go, you would be hard pressed to argue that Blade Runner is NOT the most defining and influential visualization of this concept.
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although William Gibson practically invented the concept via Neuromamcer novel, it was BR that gave us a visual (striking)interpetation of said genre.<p>Poor Ryan,(RPL) he's set in his ways.
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Sure thing asshole. Enjoy your Blade Runner fan club meeting tonight. Hope someone shows up.
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They added a dwarf in the 3D extended cut of the second special edition re-release BluRay.
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[cracked another rib laughing]
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D-bag
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LMMFAO now That's funny Ryan.
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I watched it in middle school, mostly cause of all the buzz. Didn't understand the story, but the move gave me this weird vibe I'll never forget. Stuck in my brain and made my like it. Watched it again in college and loved it. Its just a great story, great acting, and a great vision of the future. A movie with no bad parts. Its so slow it feels real. Blade Runner is a great one.
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"I never got the hype for this movie-saw it once, fell asleep. The visuals are good, I guess" <p>Thats what Harry said about Inception.
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Sept. 17, 2010, 2:56 p.m. CST
I think I hurt Obi Cunt's feelings, too...
by Turd_Has_Risen_From_The_Grave
Keep on digging a deeper hole for yourself there, pal. Look up the concept art for the scenes that were originally supposed to begin Avatar. No Blade Runner influence? Get real. Of course, you're content to be a fulcrum of ignorance, as is evidenced by nearly everything you post here. Crack another rib, dude; it's not from laughing, it's bad karma for being such a painfully self-unaware dunce.<p>P.S. please explain some other little observance I've noted. You're a rabid prequel/Lucas basher, aren't you? Can you explain to me why the most demented of your type nearly always seem to have Star Wars themed user names? Some kind of daddy/ childhood rape issues? Shed some light on that for me, will you, dunce? Just curious.
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the 3D technology.Unfortunately, it was put on hold for something more "original".Avatar raked in soo much BO Returns not because of the semi lackluster story but mostly due to the hype of the 3D effects.Like I said earlier, good film but overrated.
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Oh, did you see my question to Sly in the Sly Stallone talkback? I thought it was pretty good. It got picked up by the media.
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Did you climb on that pedestal all by yourself or someone had to push you up there?
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I was a kid when I first saw BR and although I thought it was a bit esoteric, I too was blown away by this new world. as I got older, I understood and appreciated what Ridley tried to convey upon moviegoers who were for the most part was not ready for this new visualization.
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And truth be told, I was Glad for ya since plenty of us been trashing you (and sometimes, rightfully so.) over the years, you finally got your moment in the spotlight.But that still doesn't excuse you for making ignorant comments for one who professes to be a film buff.Waiting in the rain for autographs may give you cred or no, but the shit you often post bring out unwarranted attacks.<p>WTF is with you dude?
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Everyone here gets attacked for liking something. It's nothing new. It's the internet.
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They showed the film makers motion capturing Cassidy's head while she sat in a chair during the 'making of' documentary included in the Ultimate disc set.<p> You didn't really think that Scott threw a 60 year old woman through a stunt window for BR:The Final Cut, did you?
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When I saw it in the theater and the scene came where Daryl Hannah got shot and was flopping around like crazy some little kid freaked out and started crying and their mommy walked them out of the theater and that's one of my most awesome movie memories.
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Alien and Blade Runner are the reasons I keep expecting Ridley Scott to come back with another incredible sci-fi movie.
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but he doesn't know it or won't believe it. And the genius of Ridley Scott is that he told Harrison Ford that Deckard is NOT a replicant, although Scott drops clues for the audience that he is.
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...Blade Runner is a perfect prediction of the future and that the world is going to end up exactly like what we see in the movie.<p> That's why.
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Phillip K Dick did see some footage of the film before he died and he was amazed by it,theres an interview with him stating that he thought it would be horrible and he had no interest in it at all,but when he saw the footage it was like what he had in his head and that he was very impressed.Its a shame he never got to see the finished movie,but with the poor theatricaly relased version thats probably for the best after all.Im not sure if he ever read the movie screenplay and what he thought of it as opposed to his much different novel.Oh and like someone posted above everyone read Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan,its a really good cyberpunk book and its sequels aint bad either.Anyone know if the film of Altered Carbon is still goin ahead?
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Unsurpassed.
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... together with APOCALYPSE NOW and 2001: A SPACE ODDYSSEY.
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He just can't understand why a great movie is great, even if it kicked him in the balls.
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Many good movies werre hard to make and the people who made them, crew and actors, didn't enjoy the experience, meaning, they had no fun making the movie. But they ended up being very proud of the movie, despiste all the trouble. movies liek this are not that few. Blade Runner, Apocalypse Now, The Sand Pebbles, 2001, even Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back were hard movies to make for crew and actors alike, and they ended up being quite rpoud of the results. not liking making the movie doesn't mean that they don't like the movie they made. Harrison Ford didn't liked making Blade Runne,r but he likes the movie a lot, and is proud of it. Watch the making off documentary, he says so himself. But beware the doc is 3 and half hours long, if you go watch it with the same attitude you had watching the movie, you will not pass the first 20 minutes that talk about the book and the writer.
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My motto is that if it's not in the movie, it doesn't belong to the story. Unless it's some stuff added in a director's cut, like in KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, then it's not part of the story. Tyrrell being a replicant is a nice trivia stuff of the intended story for BLADE RUNNER, but it's not in the movie, therefore, it doesn't exist. Tyrrell is a human in BLADE RUNNER.
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