Sept. 13, 2010, 12:15 a.m. CST
some of the docs are really well done
Sept. 13, 2010, 12:40 a.m. CST
by Rev. Artemis Prime
I'm giddy as a school girl for this.
Sept. 13, 2010, 12:44 a.m. CST
I'm with you on that one; 30 for 30 is the shizz
Sept. 13, 2010, 3:30 a.m. CST
winter is coming!
Sept. 13, 2010, 5:43 a.m. CST
was pretty cool ... considering that when I read the books, he was the exact person I was picturing in every Tyrion scene. Can't wait to see how HBO handles Daenyrys. Too bad that fat fuck Martin will never finish another book in the series, so ultimately this series will go nowhere.
Sept. 13, 2010, 6:11 a.m. CST
Hears hoping its either as good or better!
Sept. 13, 2010, 6:19 a.m. CST
Oh yeah, and this new clip too. That too.
Sept. 13, 2010, 6:40 a.m. CST
Which is a shame, as Jordan fucking stalled the ball for about 6 books before dying, and if he'd been more committed to finishing the story, he'd have had plenty of time.<br /><br />
Sept. 13, 2010, 6:41 a.m. CST
Not much to get excited about. Some nice babes and sword and sorcery. For those who liked Xena and it's ilk, it filled a niche.<br /><br />I expect much much more from Game of Thrones.<br /><br />Game of Thrones is masterful stuff.
Sept. 13, 2010, 6:46 a.m. CST
I think they should deviate from the book slightly in this respect. The book opens with the "Others" attacking one of the outposts on the wall.<br /><br />But considering that that plot line doesn't appear again for AGES afterwards, they might want to drop it from the first season all together.<br /><br />If the first season tracks the first book, it should begin with King Robert visiting the Stark strong hold, and the bastard Jon should hardly feature at all. <br /><br />From there on in, it's all about Bran at Winterfell, and the Starks meeting their various fates. That should take us right up to the end of Season One, where, you know, *that* happens.<br /><br />Daenyrys and all the stuff that happens in the other lands, doesn't need to be in the first season at all, I think.
Sept. 13, 2010, 6:55 a.m. CST
by Jack Burton
This is how you do epic fantasy for adults. I really hope this debuts and sends the Dark Tower team back to the planning stages to rethink defanging the series with this bullshit NBC crap. Thrones looks to be incredible and I am ridiculously psyched for Boardwalk Empire so I'm happy it's getting stellar reviews. HBO is the ONLY pay channel worth the monthly expense all year long.
Sept. 13, 2010, 7:14 a.m. CST
Christ, I am terrified they are going to just go out on their own and write the ending. What am I saying, HBO will get rid of it with-in three years even if its a hit, due wanting something new.
Sept. 13, 2010, 7:30 a.m. CST
by Mr Lucas
then someone else can finish the story. It wouldn't bother me one iota, but then I don't rate him as high a writer as some folks seem to.
Sept. 13, 2010, 8:37 a.m. CST
So I'm betting they're in. Also they are still shooting this so there were very few finished effects in those. It looks great to me.
Sept. 13, 2010, 8:54 a.m. CST
Almost all your guesses/suggestions are probably wrong V'Shael. They've already cast those few actors that are specifically used in the opening scene with the Others. There's no way Jon's plot is being cut. He's one of the book's top 3 characters and already featured prominently in those previews. Ditto for Daenyrys - the gorgeous white haired girl for those who don't know. As for all you annoying GRRM lifespan pessimists... I'll never understand you. Did Jordan's passing scar you for life or something? If you followed GRRM's blog you'd know the guy is just a few final chapters from finishing book 5. If it isn't out by next Spring for an awesome HBO series co-release I'll be as shocked as anyone. Plus even if he never writes another book there is enough material out there for at least 3-4 years of absolutely incredible material to be filmed. If 5 years from now he hasn't finished those last few chapters, feel free to complain. Otherwise give it a F'n rest and let the man live his life as he chooses.
Sept. 13, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST
how the book begins, but after the prologue, there's the whole bit of ***SPOILER*** Ned Stark executing the deserter from the Wall, and finding the direwolf cubs. I believe all that happens before King Robert comes to visit. To my thinking, if one is to exclude the Others attack, that's where the series should start.
Sept. 13, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST
But there are two more books to finish the series. He chopped off 100 pages for the end of book 5 to start book 6, so thats good. But that is still a very long way to go to book 7. That is what people are worried about. Eh, maybe he wants these books to start selling around the time that the show comes out.
Sept. 13, 2010, 9:14 a.m. CST
by Nice Marmot
He only writes the plot, but I fill in the details. "Upon breaking his fast w/ a hearty portion of lamprey and wild onion pie, 3 poached quail eggs and Dornish porridge in a bowl the size of Lord Tywin's favorite shield, Tyrion changed into a more casual white doublet with a large, brown boiled leather belt studded with tiny golden lion heads and donned a forest green cape that hung just 3 quarters of an inch from his ankles."
Sept. 13, 2010, 9:15 a.m. CST
Why in God's name would you cut out the creepiest part of the entire saga and one of the best openings in a novel? Fanboys are fanboy for a reason and should sometimes sit down and shut the fuck up about how to do this shit. Some of you think you could do LOTR better with the rhyming hobbit, the Jar Jar Binks of fantasy. If GRRM bites it, I am sure there is an outline somewhere like Jordan. I say it ends with John being the King of the North while Dani takes over the rest when the Dragons ass rape the Others.
Sept. 13, 2010, 9:29 a.m. CST
The script to the first episode is online and it begins with the prologue and ends exactly where you'd expect..."The things I do for love." I predict viewers will be shocked and hooked by the time the first episode ends.
Sept. 13, 2010, 10:15 a.m. CST
that´s a perfect cliffhanger for the first episode
Sept. 13, 2010, 10:17 a.m. CST
Didn't I see him starring in Fiddler on the Roof?
Sept. 13, 2010, 10:25 a.m. CST
funny and funny...It still amazes me that we're getting this. Why AICN writers don't get into books (without pictures) is beyond me. Some of the best stuff out there is in books.
Sept. 13, 2010, 10:37 a.m. CST
by darth rod
If season 1 is a hit (and there is no reason why it shouldn't, book one is awesome, full of great characters, twists, great pacing, heck even great episode end cliffhangers) hbo has 2 more solid seasons (3 if they decide to split book 3 in 2 seasons) before a massive nosedive on book 4, future tv show fans are gonna be pissed if they follow it, no tyrion? no jon? no danny? minimal plot development? so either they jump to book five with some stuff from 4 or they start creating an alternate storyline. And Martin is sloooow so even if book 5 comes out in the next couple of years it took him more than a decade (storm of swords was released in 2000) to get to a proper sequel.
Sept. 13, 2010, 11:06 a.m. CST
...assuming GRRM finished A Dance With Dragons. And, by the time we get to season 4 there's no reason to believe he would not have. You simply combine A Feast For Crows and A Dance With Dragons and spread out the narrative over Seasons 4 and 5. That way you don't go a whole season without Jon, Danny and Tyrion.
Sept. 13, 2010, 11:34 a.m. CST
The one thing I took out of that show was that Bridget Regan was born to play Wonder Woman.
Sept. 13, 2010, 11:47 a.m. CST
For you sad folk angsting like an emo kid about Martin finishing the series, David Benioff & Dan Weiss know how the rest of the story goes. They know the answers to all the mysteries in the book. GRRM had to tell them in order to avoid changing key bits in the first season. GRRM knows how the rest of the series goes and write it up for them to create the last two seasons. But he won't have to. He spent the last five years apparently trying to fix the problem he made for himself by rushing the end of the third book, and not skipping ahead five years or so on the fourth. That problem is pretty much gone last I heard. The rest of the series will come at a reasonable pace. Unlike Jordan, GRRM isn't fighting a major disease. Have you people done crying yet?
Sept. 13, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST
... and while I enjoy the story immensely, god bless whatever screenwriter managed to snip out about two billion extraneous elements.
Sept. 13, 2010, 12:50 p.m. CST
by Nice Marmot
Shouldn't his face be a bit more grotesque than that? And you beat me to it, BottomsUp. I bet I was the only geek at the bar yesterday thinking the Giants big win might somehow postpone Dragons a tiny bit more. Fucking Browns!!!!!
Sept. 13, 2010, 12:52 p.m. CST
by Nice Marmot
Sept. 13, 2010, 1:17 p.m. CST
he's taking his time to get it right. i don't blame him for that. few ever get the opportunity to do that. good for him that he has it. he does a lot of side work that probably pays the bills so he can take his time getting this series perfect.
Sept. 13, 2010, 2:03 p.m. CST
Yeah, it's way over descriptive, but I love the books just the same.
Sept. 13, 2010, 2:35 p.m. CST
by Nice Marmot
. . . I love the HELL out of this series.
Sept. 13, 2010, 2:50 p.m. CST
by vic twenty
Sept. 13, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST
by vic twenty
I'm only half through Book 2 but no need to rush. GRRM will wait for me to get caught up.
Sept. 13, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST
than see some crap that someone hurries to put out. Remember Itchy, as Neil Gaiman says...George RR Martin is not your bitch. http://tinyurl.com/oubwno
Sept. 13, 2010, 7:27 p.m. CST
Is going to rock the fanboy community and TV viewing audience. I dont feel thats an overstatement, the people who dont know its coming are going to literally gasp, its still the only time I literally said out loud "Holy SHIT!" while reading a book.....and then looked guiltily around to see if anyone heard me. The only other time was about halfway through book 3, and everyone knows what THAT is. Oh, and they cant cut Dany. SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER Dany is THE hero of the story. Numero Uno. The Big Cheese. The best part about turning people on to this series is giving them the warning before they start GOT, "Trust me, you will think you know who the hero is this series is, but you dont. Not until about 2/3rds of the way through book 3".
Sept. 13, 2010, 9:30 p.m. CST
Seriously has no idea wtf they are talking about. Watch 1 episode of rome and then come back educated to discuss.
Sept. 13, 2010, 9:32 p.m. CST
Yep that was the original release date. Stop going to cons Martin!!! for the love of god. At least HBo has no problems deviating from source material. They'll finish it one way or the other.
Sept. 13, 2010, 9:58 p.m. CST
Pathetic...Gooseud knows what's up...we have both stated before that this shit is going to really blow some peoples minds! I have a lot of faith that this is going to be pulled off with near perfection. It's 90 degrees here in Sarasota and I am already seeing snow!!! GOT bitches!!!
Sept. 14, 2010, 3:13 a.m. CST
..are staying at the hotel my wee bro works in. Apparently theres this 7ft tall guy stomping about the hotel always on the verge of a roid rage attack. Hes threatened to throw the staff down the stairs if he is disturbed.
Sept. 14, 2010, 9:33 a.m. CST
...if the novels have ONE true, good hero it's clearly Jon.
Sept. 14, 2010, 12:25 p.m. CST
And it's got Sean Bean in it!! I'm gonna read Game of Thrones soon, see what all the fucking fuss is about. It's sitting on my shelf atm like a motherfucker, waiting for me to finish Small Gods (Terry Pratchett Discworld book).
Sept. 14, 2010, 1:08 p.m. CST
And was SO engaged in it. I couldn't put it down. Then one day I picked it up, started reading it and thought "y'know, this book is actually not very good" and put it down. I guess I realized that I had read about 500 pages and almost nothing had happened. Each chapter advances the plot about a millimeter (if that) and Martin's prose is damnably boring. Seems like a lot of people really got into these books and I was, briefly, one of them before I abruptly gave up on it. I came to the realization that I really don't like fantasy at all other than Tolkien (whom I love). Oh and I hope I never, ever read another novel that has the term "boiled leather" on every other goddamn page.
Sept. 14, 2010, 3:06 p.m. CST
he's never seen anything like it. It's not your daddys Lord of the Rings and it's definately not a rip off of it. There's not a central "quest" going on, it's brutal as hell and the "bad" guys are everywhere, you even end up rooting for some of them. Long in prose is a valid criticism but so what the story is great. And if you only got 500 pages into it, you missed the payoff big time.
Sept. 14, 2010, 10:09 p.m. CST
...it's so NOT a LotR rip-off. A lot of what Martin set out to do with this series was avoid all of the endless Tolkien re-hashes and recycled plots and themes. These books are written more in the fashion of historical fiction, only they happen to take place in a fantasy world and not our own. It has much more in common with "I, Claudius" than it does with "Lord of the Rings."