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How Does Stephen King Feel
About Ron Howard Putting
THE DARK TOWER On NBC??
EW: There’s a lot of blood in the series — how much is the TV series going to be censored? It likely would have been easier to join forces with a network without restrictions, à la HBO, no?
KING: I don’t see that as a problem at all! We’ll have just enough latitude to make a great series. I’ve worked in network TV before, and every time I was squeezed a little, it just made me look for creative solutions. Besides, I always like to play in the biggest auditorium available!
While the plan is an odd one, there are precedants. "The X-Files" jumped from series to movie to series to movie. "Star Trek" did too, sort of. Remember how Spock appeared in both "The Undiscovered Country" and "The Next Generation" in late 1991?
EW also gets King to reveal whom he always saw playing Susannah on screen. Find all of EW’s exclusive here.
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But King has a point. I couldn't imagine "It" being a decent TV movie given the material, but they made it work.
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Just a thought.
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Go cable, or don't bother.
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. . . as in the guy who had the nerve to bitch about Kubrick's Shining and praise the TV version w/ the dope from Wings. The guy who had no problem w/ the crappy Stand and PG-13 IT we got. The guy who had no problem w/ the crappy Tommyknockers, Mangler, Graveyard Shift, Jesus I could type forever . . .
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no more talk of ron howard or that hack of a writer or some pg Dark Tower, am hoping this is a very late April fools
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Partly because a hundred years ago, when I read WASTE LANDS, Angela Bassett was the business.<p>I could also see Alfre Woodard as Susannah. But I think I might be aiming old. Honestly, unknowns are our best bet.<p>And as much as I love King as a storyteller, I don't trust him when it comes to adaptations. Christ, for a decade he seemed to think Mick Garris was his best friend behind the camera.
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More like USA or SciFi.
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..directing. Just means they'll get a bigger budget.
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When you have a shooter on "Grey's Anatomy" shooting a pretty, but bitchy doctor in the head (from close range), and then said doctor falls to the ground while a whole lot of blood pours to the floor, you know times have changed... <P>I think this will be fine as long as it's on at 10PM.
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Money money money money money money.... MONEY!
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Sept. 10, 2010, 9:09 a.m. CST
In other words "shut up, I stand to make a bundle on this."
by cookylamoo
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King doesn't really seem to give a shit about the books he sells to make into tv shows and movies. He hands over full rights and they can do whatever they want w/the property. King has enough influence that he could maintain control if he wanted to, but he just doesn't care for whatever reason.
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NBC hasn't been good since the end of the Twentieth Century and neither has Stephen King.
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He's one of the richest and widely read authors in history, people accuse him of churning out book after book, but he writes because he enjoys it.
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Not that I can see Saldana committing to this crazy Dark Tower scheme, but she's clearly the perfect Susannah. Either her, or Gabourey Sidibe.
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She's a fine actress and all...but Stella has lost her groove. I'm gonna stick with Taraji Henson as my #1, and Sanaa Lathan as #2 choices for Susannah.
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Sept. 10, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST
putting a show based on a book called
by BEYONDTHUNDERDOME2GIRLS1CUPBILLCOSBY
'shit my dad says' on nbc is also a dumb idea
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to know that film and prose are completely different beasts. The reason he doesn't mind all the shitty adaptations is because he enjoys seeing what other people do with his material. <p> To understand his beef with Kubrick, you have to take into account that The Shining is King's most personal novel (or was at that point). It was about his own alcohol addiction and demons. There was a deep, human, element to the story that Kubrick threw out (thus throwing out what King felt was the true substance of the story). <p> Kubrick made a great film, but told a different story.
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Taraji Henson fo sho
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Met him several times in a social context, and the guy is brilliant, laid-back, and crazy. But his black characters suck ass. He was skilled enough to pull off the "Detta-O'Detta" routine--barely. But I doubt Ron Howard has the capacity to run with that minstrel routine. King pulled off "The Green Mile," but the cinematic adaptation was just horrifically insulting, and the director never caught why--and neither did most white audiences. It is just too easy to be tone deaf to offensive stereotypes, if they ain't your group. Can Akiva Goldsmith avoid being offensive? I don't know. King is kinda like Tarantino. Damned if I know how he gets away with some of the racial imagery he does, but he does, and I love him. Take away an ounce of that talent, though, and we're likely to get a disaster. Better scale the jungle bunny talk down, I reckon.
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I guess the stars of the movie will port over to the TV show and back again?<br /> <br /> I don't see movie stars forgoing lucrative paydays for this contractual nightmare scenario.
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It's plenty bloody, and has surprised me quite a few times as to how graphic it's been allowed to be on network television. <br><br> Also if they do this they'd have to air it on one of the big five. Hoping people would subscribe to a pay channel from interest generated by the films, or vice versa with people being drawn to the films, is way too big a gamble to make. It also needs some sort of guarantee to not be put on the bubble for awhile and given a chance to grow, because if the film's a hit, the television viewers will eventually follow once it's made it's rounds on dvd and cable. Either that'll happen or the show will become about as much of areality as Stephen Sommer's proposed Van Helsing spinoff show.
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Sept. 10, 2010, 9:50 a.m. CST
Bad idea to have King involved in movie, TV production...
by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview
...Why? I got six words and a coma: Stephen King, director of Maximum Overdrive.
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A abc series with a Wolverine flick every other season then leading into big ass epic trilogy after the show's over is the way to go. Hopefully Howard can pull this off giving the mouse confidence a setup like that could work.
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Shes gotta be a bona fide American black woman.
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Sept. 10, 2010, 10:06 a.m. CST
X Files did it once. 2nd movie was well after the series ended.
by Jack Burton
Season finale was the X-files were closed down, and (I think) the office set on fire. The movie that summer sees the conspiracy broaden and at the end the X-Files are reopened to combat the growing forces. Then the new season started that fall set a couple weeks after the movie ended. But they only did it once, and I don't know that it worked all that well. Given the huge leaps they make in the movie it was annoying to be right back where they started in the new season with Scully conveniently having forgotten WATCHING A HUGE SPACESHIP TAKE OFF OUT OF THE ICE. The problem is the movie has to be both dumbed down for the uninitiated, but give enough answers to the fans to justify it being on the big screen and charging to see it. The X-Files movie is all but incomprehensible to the non-fan, but too simplified for the fans. I can see the same thing happening here. It's a cash grab, pure and simple. And this deal REEKS of it. They don't give a shit about quality. Even that asshat Goldsman admits he's looking for "fiscal opportunities" with the material. This is being made for all the wrong reasons, by all the wrong people.
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This will be a disaster of epic proportions.
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It's so obvious: Gina Torres!
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King has always seemed pretty modest in his spending considering his success.
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That is a damn fine choice. Also kind of realistic. Nicely done, DanielEsq.<p>Of course, now I am slotting the whole FIREFLY cast into roles. But that was bound to happen anyway. SUMMER GLAU FOR JAKE!
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Sept. 10, 2010, 11:29 a.m. CST
"I always like to play in the biggest auditorium available! "
by skimn
NBC? Uncle Stevie, have you seen the ratings charts lately?<p>I'm still pissed that TNT never followed through on The Talisman. I think they may have had lower ratings for Nightmares & Dreamscapes than they expected.<p>And let me state once again that that series' Battleground with William Hurt was one of the best adaptations of King, big or small screen.
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ZZZZzzzzzZZZZZZZ... hunh?... zzzzzzzZZZZ
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May be getting a bit old to play Roland but I could definitely see him as his dad.
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NICE choice. She seems more mature and tough than Taraji Henson and Sanaa Lathan, who I feel are a little too hot for the role.
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Where's the Nathan Fillion as Roland brigade?
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So they can then change what they like, a-la Star Trek 09. <p> Daniel Day Lewis for Roland if he won't commit get Michael Shannon <p>Joseph Gordon Levitt for Eddie Dean <p> Taraji Henson is the best I've seen so far for Susannah <p> A host of classic British bad guys to play the many forms of The Man in Black<p> Tim Curry as Dandelo<p> Clint Eastwood as Stephen Deschain (Or even Daniel Day Lewis maybe)<p>Clint Howards Face as Oy
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Sept. 10, 2010, 12:10 p.m. CST
suprised they are even attempting this debacle in the making
by slickerynodes
but it will be fun to hate on
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Starting the next one today, The Drawing of the Three. Probably The Waste Lands day after tomorrow. And that's as far as I made it the first time - twenty-something years ago. We'll see what happens this time. Aww, who am I kidding? I got a lot more fortitude now than I used to have. I'll make it through 'em. Just don't know if I'll like 'em.
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The Drawing of the Three is much better than Gunslinger.
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or 2010 matt dillon
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. . . which they won't. Would be cool to see Eli Wallach squeezed in there somewhere. If he's still with us . . .
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Accept no substitutes.
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Probably too old now though. <p> Eddie? I always pictured Christian Slater. Too old not as well. Ryan Gosling will do. <p> Jake? I don't know. Some unknown kid WHO CAN REALLY ACT.
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Wallach and Vigoda laugh at all of us.
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...the CBS version Salem's Lot. Still one of the best King adaptions ever and still one of the best modern vampire movies ever.
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What is the guy, 100? Is he in Wall Street 2 too?
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... for Roland. Hmmm. Only if they can't get Lewis. Which they won't. They won't get Bardem either. <p> With the TV series any actor who commits to this is going to be busy for several years. That's going to be a big factor in accepting a role. You're basically booked solid and it would be hard to do other projects.
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While The Stand miniseries may have had issues(not many imo, I thought it was great). The casting of Jamey Sheridan was PERFECT. I'll always think of him as Flagg.
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It's not that SK doesn't care if it sucks, it's that he has no idea what DOES suck. His track record is very long and totally speaks for itself: any production he's involved with sucks. This will be the lames Stand-esque production quality with lame ass actors and a neutered story line.
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She's on True Blood. I've caught snippets here and there, and it seems she's always crying or pissed off whenever I happen to tune in, so I don't know if she's actually a good actor, but she sure as shit looks the part
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Keanu Reeves as Roland. Not cos I think it's any good, it's just a hunch...
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After I saw her in Heart and Souls
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Laura San Giacomo's bod...
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Broadcast network TV shows are between 40-42 minutes long. They are often sped up slightly when broadcast to allow even more commercial time, so you can end up watching only 38-39 minutes of content in an hour show. (ABC did this with Lost.) That's not time enough to tell stories with any kind of comfortable pacing. Some episodes of the Sopranos were 60 minutes long, meaning 20 full minutes more to tell the story per episode. That's one of the reasons they felt more like "mini-movies" rather than episodic TV.
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If the story is to play out properly, NBC has to risk the possibility of committing to a potentially low-rating series. This could work out as well as their plan to put Jay Leno on at 10pm every night.
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He's got the look, physique, and talent to kill it.
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but king is known for caring little about what happens to his works once they are translated to big or small screen
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At least I'm not alone. See my post @ 12:31.
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C'mon dude. He hasn't been a coke addict since the late 80's. And his coke addiction helped him write what I think(but no one else)is one of his greatest books, The Tommyknockers
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Sept. 10, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST
It's true, when I hear "Dark Tower" the first thing I think is
by CountryBoy
Opie.
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Can they seriously do it in less than ten years? What actor will commit to that? Maybe a desperate B-lister?
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LOTS of people rip on it. All of a sudden he injected even more batshit craziness into his work. It was later on when he started getting even more nuts that he started losing me.
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HE HATED THE SHINING.........ASSHOLE
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. . . I think we'll be seeing some straight-to-disc animation before its all said and done.
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and sad...
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i really enjoyed the very first "gunslinger" stories, the five that were written for whatever pulpy sci-fi magazine back in the late '70s/early 80s. those stories really got the feeling, that particular vibe of early century "weird tales" pulp. but then of course king King'd it up and ruined the entire enterprise by turning it into an endless slog of mediocrity, as per the usual. if he'd left it at those five stories, this would be a classic. but of course, he had to bludgeon the thing to death.
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Will this format work overseas? Most people won't be able to watch the tv series before the second movie opens...
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Desperation, The Shining, It, The Stand are all watered down pieces of crap with a few good moments (part one of The Stand was decent). The best King movies have always been the theatrical versions.
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. . . wasn't good enough to make me watch part two.
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Need I say more?
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if you want a good adaptation.
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Sept. 10, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST
"I always like to play to the biggest auditorium available!"
by Nasty In The Pasty
Even if said auditorium ends up NEUTERING the intent of the original material? This is BULLSHIT reasoning. Stephen King is ALWAYS R-rated material.
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hasnt anyone heard yet?
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Sept. 10, 2010, 4:15 p.m. CST
S.K. doesn't protect his babies! Have you seen the TV adaptation
by SirGaryColeman
They are terrible!! He actually seems to like Mick Garris (The Stand, TV version of The Shining, etc) and that guy did awful shit to his books for TV. Stephen King's opinions on his adaptations mean nothing to me. For some reason, he just does not have a talent for handling his adaptations...
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Guy Pierce as Roland. Jonathan Tucker as Eddie. Taraji Henson as Susanah. Hugh Laurie as Man in Black. Good thing that faggy little Disney commercial shit sack kid from The Shinning is too old for Jake or you know they would have cast him.
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Re: Tommyknockers <p> Fuckin a man. Only King book I've read four times. There's just something about it...I'm just drawn to it. Aside from the Dark Tower series(which I'll count as one book/story) it IS my favorite King book.
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What about <p> Stand By Me (The Body) <p> Dolores Claiborne <p> The Dead Zone <p> Firestarter <p> Silver Bullet (Cycle of the Werewolf) <p> Apt Pupil <p> Not all are gems but there good movies.
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Now count the number of authors that have six watchable adaptations and see if you can fill your hand. Your seemingly negative comment is a compliment to the man and his output.
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Those are all Pure Grade A SHIT. What the fuck is the fascination with Stand By Me anyway? It's a fucking piss poor coming of age shitstain with weepy manbabies for an audience.
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Same thing here... How many authors have created the source material for "a fucking piss poor coming of age shitstain with weepy manbabies for an audience." With all this praise - somewhere King is blushing.
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of QUATERMASS AND THE PIT. King's better at short fiction than doorstop novels. My favourite? THE GIRL WHO LOVED TOM GORDON.
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Should be Roland
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Sept. 10, 2010, 6:06 p.m. CST
Kurt Russell for Roland..or if they have no money Tim Daly...
by Stormwatcher
Hugh Jackman seems like the obvious choice since he looks like Clint, can be aged/de-aged... can dance..remember, Roland dances... but Kurt is my all time pick. But since it will also have TV, I expect Kurt since Hugh is too A list to do tv.
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c'mon, even if Salem's Lot blew...he was the perfect Father Callahan.....can't wait to see that character come back! and ANthony Hopkins too! Just make sure the Horn is there.
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Viva Laughlin, never saw it though
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I agree Fareal. He needs to be treated like HG Wells, Kieth Richards, Quentin Tarantino, and Freud.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100910/ap_en_tv/us_ebert_review_show
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I would bet that King is off the real dope, and its probably been for a while now (Tommyknockersish?). If he is abusing, it's pain meds.
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Sept. 10, 2010, 7:10 p.m. CST
I'm praying...but I think we all know it's no use!!
by performingmonkey
It just cannot be adapted in this way! And like King cares, he's gonna get paid for this. He didn't care enough to give us a 7th book that wasn't embarrassing in places, mostly lame in others. The Drawing of the Three and The Wastelands are amazing, as well as Wizard and Glass, even though it feels like a different story entirely. King was great at realizing Roland's past but everything that happens after The Wastelands in the current time is completely insane. It always felt like he was putting off carrying on Roland's story. Wolves of the Calla, a huuuge book with hardly any plot advancement whatsoever! Yes, we got Father Callahan's story, stories of the people of the Calla who we couldn't give a fuck about. The characters we DO care about, Roland, Eddie, Susannah, Jake...hardly get a look in. I always hated Eddie anyway. He's too much of a stock character, the wiseass who done bad who does good. Jake is like all of King's 'special' kid characters rolled into one. Susannah is the unique one, but surely her story is extremely hard to adapt for film and TV?? Hope they still have her calling Roland and Eddie honky pencil-dicks and everything else!
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Seriously, watch a History of Violence. The man would be awesome as Roland.
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you douches need a reality check and get out of fantasy land, you harry potter douches
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But much of his work is exactly dumb enough to be on network TV.<br><br>"It" turned out to be a giant-ass spider. My first thought was "get a giant-ass can of Raid".<br><br>The Tommyknockers was such a dumb idea I wanted to un-read it.<br><br>Just my opinion...
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The awesome Stephen King who wrote The Stand, Carrie, Salem's Lot, and The Shining started to fade away in the 1980's. By the 1990's, he was gone. That guy is in the creative afterlife with the George Lucas who made the original Star Wars and Indiana Jones trilogies. The 2010 Stephen King writes almost entirely in cliches and can't end a book to save his life. But, damn, the guy used to be awesome.
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The last 200 pages of IT nearly ruin the book. IT turns out to be a giant spider and the kids can only escape the sewers thanks to a pre-pubescent gangbang. Terrific, Stephen. Stay on drugs; they really help your work.
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I agree with the majority of you. This amazingly prolific writer who as touched all our lives in one way or another fucking sucks. This one of a kind gift to the entertainment world blows and Ill edit his wiki to make it a fact for all of us. Were so much better at writing than him. Can't wait to read your guys novels. I bet they will be so great.
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anything King writes, even his grocery lists, are to be treasured and read over and over again...<p>If you get bored reading King, just skip every other chapter. He is such a good author he will repeat everything you need to know about the chapter you skipped...
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He writes books about scary clowns, scary cars, scary dogs, scary resorts, scary cell phones, scary flues, scary pyrotechnic pyromaniacs, scary buckets of blood at Prom, etc, etc...
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I don't believe I have sat through a complete series of his since Tommyknockers. His subject matter doesn't interest me and he wastes a lot of words. But I will probably reread his Danse MaCabre.I found this a great read.
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about ten years... ago. <p> IS ROLAND.
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http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1107859456/nm0570385 <p> pic for proof. hell - James Remar NOW is looking about right too.
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Thank you. <p> Yeah the guy has had his duds but you write 56 novels and short story collections and I'll tell you which ones suck. Cool? You done yet? <p> And Under the Dome is his best work in years.
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That post, apart from the Thank you, wasn't directed at you. My wording was bad. I'm no Stephen King you know.
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seriously though they really suck. The fucking love story with Roland and Sussanah is flimsy and lacks and depth or believeability. Plus half the shit is ripped off from Lord of the Rings. And whats with the shitty meta bullshit? The fucking main villain, the Spider King, or whatever, is defeated by a kid erasing his picture. WTF?? And Stephen King makes an appearance in the books!!! Yes, seriously. The mans written some good shit, but a ton of absolute fucking horse shit.
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..but now I have more!
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Sept. 11, 2010, 2:27 a.m. CST
The only King "movie" that was good is the one he hates
by MelGibsonsRacialTirade
The only good one was The Shining, which he didnt like, because Kubrick made it a lot better than the book was. The book was kind of stupid. Kubrick made it amazing. He put King on the map. FACT.
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I read the Harry Potter books...then right after that I read The Gunslinger. Big difference LOL. King is an incredible "wordsmith"...I mean his way of describing people and scenes is second to none. It's incredible. I'll give him that.
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Sept. 11, 2010, 3:28 a.m. CST
I stopped caring about King after Dreamcatcher
by Hardboiled Wonderland
The movie was even worse. The only thing that made it out of that steaming pile of shit with any respect was Damian Lewis and his character's 'mind warehouse'. But goddammit, just mentioning it here and I need to go scrub my eyeballs with steel wool.
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With Carnivale-Ron Moore lead writer. But NBC... meh, it can't be worse than Riverworld or Legend Of Earthsea, right? Er, right?
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Sept. 11, 2010, 3:32 a.m. CST
Donnie Wahlberg as Duddits to make a special appearance!
by Hardboiled Wonderland
That'd be worth seeing.
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Starring Roger Ebert, Stephen Hawking and that French chick with the face transplant. Computer Voices for all. Just don't watch during dinner.
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"Go away, Mr. Gay"
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"So you're Mr Gay?" <p> "Yeah, crazy huh?" <p> *Hops on snowmobile*
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THE_CHOPPAH is CHOPPIN' (CHOPPIN') the future, the past, as He lays the present to waste.
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...for Roland. Bradley Cooper for Eddie...Alfre Woodard for Susannah
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They shouldn't be doing this, anyhow. I just can't see such a middle-of-the-road director pulling this off. Howard's sensibilities are far too bland for this kind of material. I remember reading an interview with King a few years ago where the talk to turned to film adaptations;he made it plain that he did not want to see a movie made of this. On a side note I've found King to be an exceptional story-teller. As a teacher I often used a few of his short stories in creative writing workshops to highlight the importance of character, plot and mood. That said, I have to agree that much of his recent work has become derivative of itself.
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someone who calls themselves "Scrote" on the internets is molding young minds.
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For television, his hands were tied behind his back hard. That's why I don't believe a network such as NBC is the solution. His "creative solutions" are already on the page in black and white. Go with them. Don't let network censors be your final guide. I just hope and pray this is not another misfire.
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for the most part, i agree. kubrick did help the shining but believe de palma put king on the map with carrie.
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adaptations
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version of the Shining. When I first saw Kubrick's interpretation, I also left the theater disappointed, but after a few subsequent viewings, i've grown to appreciate it, due to how Kubrick captured King's (edge of your seat) tension and atmospheric tonality while reading the book.<P> I guess, like King, I took exception to some of Kubrick's artistic licences with the original source material...Afterall, prior to King's The Stand, The Shining was considered his crowning achievement.
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where did you find this pic? i saw that in the painting that Jane was drawning in the Mist movie and i always wanted to have it since then.i didnt know that it actually existed in the net.great find,you just made my day.
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Sept. 11, 2010, 3:18 p.m. CST
The Shining was King's apology to his family for his alcoholism
by crazybubba
which is why he initially had problems with Kubricks version. I saw him in an interview recently on the View and someone asked him about it and he didn't say anything negative about Kubricks version, in fact, I think he praised it so I think he's moved on.
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Opie from Mayberry should not be directing anything dark especially something written by King unless its something akin to Stand By Me.
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The book was a lame plot, honestly. The hotel was haunted, and at the end Jack blows it up. That's just lame. That's like the Jurassic Park book.<BR><BR>However in the movie, it's all about cabin fever, though the hotel is certainly still haunted. It's just better in every way, though totally confusing (but in a good way).
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Anyone see that? Holy crap was that terrible.
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Starting with the biggest letdown of all, The Stand. And The Stand isn't 1/10th as complicated as Dark Tower. I really don't expect this deal to go through to air. It's a nice concept that will eventually be shelved.
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... after he directed a movie himself.
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he was the best thing in the Creepshow movie.
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You know it to be true
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Sept. 11, 2010, 10:33 p.m. CST
I always like to play in the biggest auditorium available
by TheKiller7
Take that cable. Network TV still is (Stephen) KING
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