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Impressionist Jay Pharaoh
Headed For SNL This Fall!!
Jenny Slate Won't Be Back!!

Published at: Sept. 8, 2010, 3:45 a.m. CST by hercules

UPDATED AGAIN!! Entertainment Weekly confirms Jenny Slate (like Will Forte) will not be in the cast of SNL when it returns later this month. Proof Slate is funny: NBC confirmed Tuesday that Taran Killam, Vanessa Bayer, Paul Brittain and Jay Pharoah have all joined the cast. Amy Poehler will host the season premiere. Musical guest will be Katy Perry. One also hears Bryan Cranston ("Breaking Bad") and Jane Lynch ("Glee") will be hosting SNL episodes this autumn. ORIGINAL POST: I am – Hercules!! We’ve long heard that a fellow from “Scrubs” and two performers from the Chicago improv scene seem to be headed to the cast of “Saturday Night Live” this month. Now Deadline Hollywood is reporting impressionist Jay Pharaoh also may be signing onto America’s top-rated late-night series. Around the 6:30 mark on this video you can hear that Pharaoh already sports a stronger Obama than Fred Armisen: The same report suggests Jenny Slate’s presence in the cast may be in jeopardy. By the way. For those who have been nattering in talkback about how SNL has no use for Asians, I’d like to point out that Nasim Pedrad is not only of full Asian ancestry, she was actually born in Asia. Also? Fred Armisen is part Japanese. If you want to go further back, Rob Schneider is half-Filipino. And Jews (whose ancestry originates in Israel -- which is in, you guessed it, Asia) have been part of the cast since day one, in the persons of Gilda Radner, Laraine Newman, Frank Oz and Albert Brooks. This is to say nothing of Al Franken, Gilbert Gottfried, Christopher Guest, Billy Crystal, Harry Shearer, Jon Lovitz, Adam Sandler, Ben Stiller, Sarah Silverman, Chris Kattan, Rachel Dratch, Maya Rudolph, Andy Samberg, Jenny Slate and Rob Schneider (which I guess makes Schneider 100% Asian). Find all of Deadline’s story about Pharaoh and Slate here. SNL launches its 36th season Sept. 25.
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  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:06 a.m. CST

    But Armisen and Schneider don't look Asian...

    by tylerzero

    ...hence, that argument holds zero piss.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:10 a.m. CST

    And Nasim can easily pass for other non-Asian ethnicities.

    by tylerzero

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:11 a.m. CST

    We're talkin' Margaret Cho-lookin' Asian here.

    by tylerzero

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:11 a.m. CST

    This talkback is so lame I'm first, second, third and fourth alr

    by tylerzero

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:12 a.m. CST

    eady. (fifth)

    by tylerzero

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:14 a.m. CST

    Nasim is hot, like most Persian chicks...

    by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview

    ...but they don't give her very much to do. She was funny as the weirdo high school girl opposite Alex Baldwin as her dad. (That was her, right?) And really, Iran is IN Asia, but I wouldn't really categorize Persians as "Asian" as most people define that nebulous term (what people used to call "orientals" back in the bad old non-PC days).

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:25 a.m. CST

    Are they gonna put him in whiteface...

    by eow

    to pull off all them white folks like Walken, Wilson, Nicholson, McConaughey...

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:27 a.m. CST

    What?

    by eow

    No James Brown or Michael Jackson??

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Some of those were awful...

    by Chewtoy

    ...but that wouldn't be anything new for SNL. Not that I really expect them to tap this guy to play Owen Wilson... although it would definitely be an interesting enough way to go to make a sketch worth watching. Regardless, some of those were great, and he did good impressions of some people I've not seen imitated well before. It seems as though once somebody cracks a certain impression then a ton of people can do it, but fresh impressions are rare. (And yes, his Obama is a huge improvement over what they currently have on SNL.)

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:46 a.m. CST

    I Heart Jenny Slate

    by ENAN

    Bitch Pleeeze! Why does Lorne keep dumping the best gals?? Last year we lost Watkins, and now no more Slate. The only reason I got over the absence of Watkins was slate. Slate is way better than Abbie Elliot. Don't do this to me, Lorne! Jenny Slate better have like a dozen movies already lined up or I am going to be pissed. You will be missed Jenny!! Hope to see you on Bored to Death some more!

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:01 a.m. CST

    That douche sucks. Are you KIDDING me?

    by Behemoth

    Love the idea of a black dude impersonating white guys. Problem is, this guy sucks ass at it. Can't even remotely get an English accent going. But yeah, I'm sure there's a huge market these days for Eddie Murphy and Rick James impressions. At least Jenny Slate had a kick-ass body. This guy is absolutely terrible. <p>And "Asian" can mean only one thing: Bobby Lee. No Bobby Lee, no Asians. Suck gibbon taint, Herculame.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:08 a.m. CST

    Asians as inChinese, Japanese, Dirty Knees

    by SydBarretsMyDad

    Look at these. Defending SNL for hiring asians who dont look asian is just as bad, btw. Its like david duke saying its ok to be attracted to Halle Berry.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Dear Lorne Michaels, stop taking my boners away.

    by Doctor_Strangepork

    If I can't jerk off to SNL, what's the point? I've been jerking off to SNL since Jan Hooks in that Tales of Ribaldry sketch, and I'll be jerking off to Abby Elliott until you fire her too.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST

    hey jenny slater...

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST

    hey jenny slater...

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST

    hey jenny slater...

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:21 a.m. CST

    hey jenny slater...

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:22 a.m. CST

    sorry couldnt pass up a GROSSE POINT BLANK ref..

    by Six Demon Bag

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:25 a.m. CST

    Wow those impressions really do suck...

    by thecomedian

    I think they hired him because he looks like Eddie Murphy and he can do him, Denzel and Will Smith really good. All those other impressions were awful. I will miss Jenny Slate if she's gone. Her and Nasim are both very spankable.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:28 a.m. CST

    I'm all for SNL fostering new talent.

    by geekzapoppin

    He does a pretty good imitation of Eddie Murphy, but he's just imitating other peoples' imitations. The best impressions may not look or sound exactly like the subject. What they do is present observations about a person's mannerisms, speech, and thought processes. The impressionist essentially becomes the person who is being imitated and can carry on a conversation as such. This guy simply mimics other people's, sometimes not very good, impressions. There are far-funnier people out there who will never get the chance to show America what they can do because SNL only seems to recruit from the same two-or-three Improv troupes. Come on! The comedy world is much larger than Second City and The Groundlings!

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:34 a.m. CST

    As I said all of last season...

    by Shermdawg

    FIRE SLATE. BRING BACK MICHAELA.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:49 a.m. CST

    On Masturbating to SNL....

    by thecomedian

    Yeah, I think I've masturbated more to Nasim and Jenny Slate in that Shake Weight parody then the actual Shake Weight commercial itself. Cloning Eddie Murphy is all good and well(took Lorne long enough) but eye candy is better.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Uh, Israel is in Asia?

    by ldm882

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 9:16 a.m. CST

    re: ldm882

    by Holeman

    Yes, Israel is in Asia. Entirely in Asia. I know that doing a web search these days is such an impossible chore for anyone born after 1990, but seriously do one next time and you won't look like the raging fucking moron that you do now. Or better yet: PAY ATTENTION IN SCHOOL!

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Which Asia?

    by mulberry

    It's pretty weak to be pulling people up on their use of the term "Asia".<p> Most of Russia is in the traditional Asian continent. So is India. So is China. <p>It's so big and diverse that in itself it's pretty meaningless. <p>But then you get the accepted usage <p>I remember when you would describe people as Indian and Asian (Chinese/Japanese/Korean etc). <p>Then suddenly, probably because people from Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan etc didn't like being called Indian, it became Asian and East Asian.<p>Which is still odd <p>Just imagine if one country in the Americas co-opted the word "American" to describe their citizens. That would be weird. <p>Oh. <p>Never mind.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Any black cast member on Mad TV

    by Hipshot

    Had as much white blood as any of these folks supposedly have Asian blood...and nobody called 'em white. It's absurd.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 9:32 a.m. CST

    asian argument

    by rockness

    that going all the way back to the motherland argument to associate asians and jews was one of the stupidest things i've read, well, ever. and i'm not even a talkback hater. i'm a vegetarian because, while i eat meat, the cows graze near some growing vegetables.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Wut?

    by Cory849

    I don't really have an opinion on SNL vs. Asians, but I do wince when I read preposterously bad argument, and man did I just wince. Herc, were you trolling or are you just really that moronic?

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Just fucking say Orientals

    by The_Floating_Skull_of_Robert_Loggia

    SNL has no use for Orientals. Mad TV had one in its short run, SNL has had...er...none. As for Jewish people, SNL has been a virtual synagogue. No one here could possibly think Jews have been underrepresented by SNL. African Americans have been tokens, usually one per season to fill in for any "black celebrity/politician" type (save for Armisen as Obama, seeing as how they had to draw the line with Thompson somewhere). What about Guatemalans? I want me some o' them on the show, now, too.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Here's a crazy idea for Lorne Michaels

    by CrazyJoeDavola

    How about hiring a few creative individuals that can actually WRITE FUNNY SHIT. I know asking a comedy show to hire creative comedic minds might be a wild concept but I'm just throwing it out there.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 10:04 a.m. CST

    They dont have any stereotypical Asians

    by Saen

    You know like the couple billion in the world.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 10:14 a.m. CST

    based on that vid,

    by Ogmios_the_Eloquent

    i'd say he's not a very good impersonator. had the names not been shown or said, many i would've not recognize. also, i'm sick of people thinking they can do Chris Walken just because of the speech pattern. impersonators suck, that is all.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Black Christopher Walken

    by thedarklingthrush

    sketch writes itself. Please this guy x1000 over the overly touchy orderly. Jenny Slate did like nothing the whole season axe her and Moynihan promote Pedrad. She was hilarious as Bedelia and Lil' Blaster, plus she's the hottest little thing on SNL in a while. Oh just let Hader work a season with this guy, helping him out with his white people impersonations and he'll be good(he's got his fellow blacks down pat)

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Checkout his Will Smith and Denzel...

    by blackmantis

    ...these impressions are pretty spot on. I love his Denzel faces. He's a raw talent to be sure but I think has potential-- http://tinyurl.com/ycjsaw3

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Some of his impressions were spot on.

    by Arcadian Del Sol

    He needs to dump the Owen Wilson from his resume. Other than that, he's awesome.<p> His Obama shows promise but needs a little work.<p> They should hire him JUST to do skits with Will Smiff.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 11:09 a.m. CST

    His Will Smith made me laugh...

    by _Venkman

    And I think if he works on his Obama it could be pretty funny...instead of Armisen's kind of flat delivery. Armisen only looks the part.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 11:22 a.m. CST

    In a word...

    by schadenfreudian

    horseshit. I'll believe it when they put this guy in his first sketch.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 11:26 a.m. CST

    They need to hire Brian Wilson from the SF Giants.

    by mjgtexas

    His interviews are funnier than anything I seen on SNL the last three years.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Wow, he's not good

    by bah

    I was going to say only his black guys are good, but then he got to Denzel, and he still sucked.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 11:40 a.m. CST

    He's good at imitating black people

    by daggor

    The good news/bad news? We've just seen everything he'll be doing on the show. Hey! Look! It's Jay-Z in a funny situation! Hey, look! it's a talk show skit with "Eddie Murphy" as a funny guest! Hey, look! It's a special commentary from "Denzel Washington" on Weekend Update!

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 11:46 a.m. CST

    On masturbating to the Shakeweight sketch.

    by Doctor_Strangepork

    The redhead is TOTALLY in on it.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Israel is in Asia?

    by Amfpsych

    What?

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 11:53 a.m. CST

    ALL OF THOSE SUCKED HORRIBLY

    by torontoxic

    If he didn't post the names I would have had NO idea what he was attempting. <P> Also you know damned well what people meant Hercules. There is not one Asian on there. Being half and it not showing doesn't count. You might as well have said 'you guys are wrong. Chris Farley was Caucasian'.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Asian Jews!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by torontoxic

    Hercs never left America. That is an inane statement. <P> Plenty of Mexicans on SNL too because Mexico is in North America and the whole cast has always been from North America. So don't call SNL racist! They just happened to always hire the exact same ratio of black to white, men to women, and never deviate from that policy.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 12:01 p.m. CST

    herc

    by blackhole4140

    it's a valid complaint that SNL in over 30 years on the air, has never had an Asian cast member. Being dismissive of the complaint is poor form. it reeks of you trolling to get your talkback hits up.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Good Eddie Murphy & Will Smith

    by Lionel_Richies_Hipster_Frames

    But the rest of his impressions pretty much suck. He's also in desperate need of a writer as his improv material coming out of his mouth is really bad. That said, I'm not sure what a Murphy impression means present day, but I can see him hosting some ridiculous talk show as Eddie and then the real Eddie will show up to confront him a la Pesci and you'll have a ready made SNL "moment" which Lorne will be called a genius for yet any one with a brain could see would work.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Every black guy does an Eddie Murphy impression.

    by Doctor_Strangepork

    It's always sad when SNL has a castmember do an impression of a former castmember. It was cheap and unfunny when Jimmy Fallon did Adam Sandler and it'll be cheap and unfunny when they have New Guy do Eddie Murphy. <br> <br> And if he does his Charlie Murphy, it will only remind the audience of a far funnier sketch comedy show that isn't around anymore.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Jenny Slate

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    They're probably still holding that on air F-bomb against her. <p> They can be a bit 'nervine' about thst stuff these days.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Jenny Slate

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    They're probably still holding that on air F-bomb against her. <p> They can be a bit 'nervine' about thst stuff these days.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Whoa!!

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    How did I do that? <p> I just hit Post TB once!

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Not too bad

    by emptystan

    I'm sure his weak impersonations are in there to prove he doesn't just do "black" impersonations, which I'm sure he'll be relegated to if he makes it on SNL. Keenan's just happy there wasn't a cosby in there.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    "the real Eddie will show up"

    by bah

    Yeah, that was old even before Pesci did it. It goes at least as far back as Dana Carvey doing the Maclaughlin Group.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 1:36 p.m. CST

    I want the musical guest to be Asia.

    by tonagan

    It was the heat of the moment.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Don't drop Jenny

    by IronSpidey

    She's cute in an odd way, and I haven't seen her do anything I didn't like. Nasim, or whatever her name is, should go. Her character sketches always fall flat. Of course I'm convinced that I'm the only fan of Jenny's doorbell/car horn/alarm clock girl.

  • And all 4 of the rumored castmembers are confirmed to be there. No word on Jenny slate yet.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 3:01 p.m. CST

    with musical guest Katy Perry.

    by zool43

    sorry. I guess now that Casey wilson is gone Katy Perry doesn't have to worry about wilson's "scathing" impression of her.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 3:07 p.m. CST

    The real absent minority on SNL: people of talent

    by JT Kirk

    Holy fuck dude, how can you guys be circlejerking about ethnicities on SNL when the show is consistently lazy and awful season after season due to shitty writers and actors?!? Sweep out the cast, sweep out the old guard writers who are just trying to get Lorne to make an awful movie with their awful repeating characters, sweep out Lorne while you're at it who has created a fiefdom out of a once-brilliant show, and get some real talent who don't just come off as a collection of idiotic local improv troupe hacks.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Lip-syncing, mass consumption musical guest

    by ScreamingPenis

    Remember when SNL had edgy talented acts on? Not this manufactured crap. Kate Perry is the poor man's Gaga. Gahhh. Gahhh.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 3:25 p.m. CST

    screamingpenis - what are you talking about?

    by itrainmonkeys

    Do I remember when SNL had edgy talented acts on? When? The first season had acts like Randy Newman, Art Garfunkel, Abba, Neil Sedaka, Carly Simon and others.<br><br>Maybe you're talking about later on, like ten years after SNL debuted when they had such edgy acts like Billy Ocean, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Bryan Adams and others. No wait, they aren't edgy?<br><br>I got it, I got it.....you must be talking about 1992....that's when the "edgy" Sinead O'Connor burned the picture of the pope on t.v.. That must be the year all the edgy, talented music acts were on right? Acts like Morissey, Bon Jovi, Lenny Kravitz, and Willie Nelson.<br><br>Face it.......the musical acts have always been about what's popular at the time and not what's "edgy" or "talented". I agree, some acts are horrible like ke$ha and Ashlee Simpson. But we also get great acts like Regnia Spektor, Muse, Alicia Keys, Them Crooked Vultures, Pearl Jam, Jay-Z, Tom Petty, Fleet Foxes, and Ray LaMontagne to name a few. These are all musical acts with talent.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Herc, I am a little shocked.

    by hst666

    If you have a problem with the term "Asian", I can understand that as Indians, persians, and slavs may all be Asian in that they all come from Asia. Personally, I would prefer they go back to Oriental for the South East Asians. <p><p>However, SNL has not had any real Asian cast members as in Oriental cast members as you know. Two half-Oriental cast members is hardly representative. They also give short shrift (sp?) to black members as well.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    You leave Art Garfunkel out of this!!!

    by ScreamingPenis

    Kate Perry is just such an underwhelming choice to open a season. There probably isn't anyone else who would have been a poorer choice. I understand that there are a lot of crap musical acts on SNL. But there used to be a lot more *good* ones.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Herc, don't be a fucking idiot

    by GrandMuffTarkin

    Jews are Asian? You may as well say everyone is African because the cradle of mankind started in Africa.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 3:46 p.m. CST

    didnt watch it but

    by yourSTEPDADDY

    his career will only last if hes willing to do "gay shit" like super full on tongue kissin... sure ive seen Keenan kiss a guy on there before but not to the extent as everyone else is willing to do...and one thing bout most black guys, super homophobes...ever hear of the "no homo" phrase

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 3:56 p.m. CST

    I haven't seen this video, but...

    by GrandMuffTarkin

    I saw Pharoah's youtube vids with his Will Smith, Denzel, and Obama impressions, and the only good one was Smith. His Denzel was weak, Reggie Reg does the best Denzel I've seen.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 4:07 p.m. CST

    What decade is everybody living in?

    by eddlyhong

    Okay what's with all these people using Orientals? Are we living in the 1950's? Shall I bust out my buckteeth and go "me so horny"? Seriously, guys, get with the times. If you wish to specify, call us East Asian, okay? It's not that hard. Also, Nadim is Iranian-American and Iran is part of Asia. Therefore Iranian is Asian. While it is also considered Middle Eastern, the concept of Asia has expanded dramatically in the past 20 years. Asian is NOT Oriental, South Asians & West Asians are Asians, and half-Asians do count. To dismiss their Asian heritage just because they don't "look" Asian is ridiculous. What does Asian look like then? Do they need to have yellowish skin? Small slanted eyes? Grow up.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Jenny Slate? Is she nose girl?

    by sonic3305

    If so, no loss.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Bout time they got more blacks on SNL!

    by Dreadlock Holmes

    Keenan Thompson. I mean, really??

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 4:17 p.m. CST

    So basically Abby is being kept on by nepotism...

    by mjgtexas

    and Fred Armisen's cock. Good to know.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 4:20 p.m. CST

    New Yorkers are just elitist snobs.

    by HellKing

    First they think they're at the center of the world and everyone else doesn't count. The only culture they acknowledge is European. New Yorkers are seeing the future where they're just a regional capital and not for the world. And they blame Asians. You see the hypocrite Donald Trump blaming everyone for this financial crisis but his fellow buddy CEOs and Wall Street tycoons who are all at fault. OPEC, Donald? The price of oil is that high because of your speculative friends in Wall Street who want it that high. Outsourcing? No country is putting a gun to American corporations' heads forcing them to outsource. They chose to ship jobs and manufacturing to other countries to exploit cheap labor so they can make more money. Of course Donald Trump is going to protect them after they helped him out of that billion dollar debt from bankruptcy several years ago. New Yorkers blame everyone but themselves for problems they cause. Asians are a reminder of their failure. That's why New Yorkers act as if Asians don't exist.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 4:27 p.m. CST

    GrandMuffTarkin

    by Hercules

    Kindly maintain a civil tongue. Personal attacks are not nice and a good way to get banned. <p> Without telling anybody not to be "a fucking idiot," calmly tell us the continent from which you believe the Jewish people originated.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 4:32 p.m. CST

    finally, someone to play thin black celebrities

    by professorjack

    Keenan's "fat tiger woods" was so odd

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    his Will Smith and Denzel are perfect

    by TheSeeker7

    The white celebs he does are somewhat off, but those 2 black ones in particular are dead on. This is typical geek behavior, anything there's something/one that they feel is getting too much attention, by default they have to shit on it and proclaim how unimpressed they are.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 5:30 p.m. CST

    I guess they wanted a clean SLATE...

    by DanielKurland

    HIREMEHIREMEHIREME.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 5:31 p.m. CST

    So glad Cranston is hosting; it's a no-brainer...

    by DanielKurland

    I mean he should have hosted before Hamm did. Fuck, maybe Hamm will cameo.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    So is Darrell Hammond still on this show?

    by FlandersBum

    I honestly have no idea since I haven't watched it in years. How about that McGruber guy? Is he still on showcasing his amazing talents? Just wondering.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 5:49 p.m. CST

    White people... we all talk funny.

    by schadenfreudian

    So, I'll take back what I said about this Jay Pharaoh fella being cast on the show. <br> I still won't watch, but I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Herc, I think the argument of "looking Asian" still matters

    by BadMrWonka

    if you had a full Asian cast member, then they would be more likely to do impressions of Asian political figures or entertainers. Fred Armisen may be half Japanese, but he's doing Obama impressions, for god sake. wold you buy him as, say, Kim Jong Il? probably not.<p>I think the fact that there have never really been any full Asian cast members (and the Israel in Asia thing is so irrelevant, I'm just going to ignore that) mirrors the fact that American culture just doesn't really care much about Asian culture. there aren't enough Asian singers, politicians and movie stars to warrant one on SNL. because a full asian cast member can't really do impressions of white people, and they'd have to shoe-horn Asian impressions into the episodes, which they don't want to do.<p>you could argue that they could just have them be non-impression characters in most sketches, but then again...if they were willing to do that, why haven't they done it already?

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Seriously about the Jews being 'Asian'?

    by Galanix

    I don't like to speak for 'the people', but I honestly think 95% of people understood the critique of no "Asians" on SNL to mean East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, etc.), or perhaps even South-East Asians (Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodian, etc.) and South Asian (Indian, Pakistani, etc.). That's why it seems preposterous to many to claim the argument is invalid because of the presence of Jews, 1 Persian, and two part-Asians who I guarantee the vast majority of people didn't even realize are anything but Caucasian. I can't tell if you are being facetious, intellectually dishonest, or have grossly misunderstood the original critique. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you misunderstood the critique, and if so allow me to rephrase it in a way that is more specific. SNL has "no use" for East Asians, South Asians, or South-East Asians. SNL has no obligation to hire anyone but it seems statistically significant that none of the roughly 125 cast members are readily identifiable as East/South-East/South Asian, when those groups comprise the 3rd largest minority group in the country (11.9 million people and 5% of the US population as of the 2000 census, likely bigger now). To be honest I don't even care that SNL has no "Asian" cast members and I couldn't care less if they ever do. I just found the argument you made to be ridiculous.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 6:04 p.m. CST

    If I was Keenan

    by Doctor_Strangepork

    I would feel the clock ticking.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Jews in America and Asia...

    by Voice O. Reason

    ...are mostly European immigrants or the descendants of European immigrants.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Will Jennifer Lopez or Steven Tyler join the cast?

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 6:30 p.m. CST

    keenan has outlasted other black cast members

    by itrainmonkeys

    i'm sure he'll be fine.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Jenny Slate has been fired

    by GreatOne3

    According to TV Guide.com and PerezHilton.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:12 p.m. CST

    He does the black voices better

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    His white voices suck and most of them are just impersonations of characters the white people have played in movies. The heath ledger one made me vomit..that was the joker not Heath, why not just call it a joker impersonation asshole<P>

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Jews originated on mars

    by RedBull_Werewolf

    I read that fact in a book once i think

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Re: Holeman

    by ldm882

    First of all, eat a dick. Without delving into my personal history, because I know no one gives a shit, suffice it to say I'm sufficiently educated and was born before 1990. I realize that, technically, yes, Israel is in Asia, and as we all know, maps, territories, and man-made borders in general are without exception flawless geographic representations of people with similar genetic, social, and historical backgrounds. I should have probably expounded on my initial comment a little more, but my (intended) point was that it's fairly disingenuous to argue that having someone on the show with an Israeli background counts as "Asian". And no, I don't think that Asian should just be exclusively limited to people of who live between China and Indonesia, but saying that having an Israeli performer on the show fills the Asian quota is about as accurate as saying that a performer of Inuit Eskimo heritage counts as having an Western American on the show. I think we all know that Herc was referring to performer's racial backgrounds, and even my apparently uneducated ass knows that Jewish people have very little in common, genealogically and racially, with people who are thought of having traditional Asian/Mongolian ancestry. Regardless, Jenny's not bad, but I prefer Nasim. And even though Casey Wilson is a little on the chunky side, she's got the best rack of any past or present SNL cast member I can think of. I'd take her boobs over Jenny or Nasim any day.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:55 p.m. CST

    regarding jews

    by brabon300

    dna testing has shown that even those who originate from europe, in fact, originate from the middle east<p> and the guy who does the best obama is a dude who goes by the nic alphacat on youtube...not the fucker above<p>but kudos to snl for once again having a token on its show

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 7:58 p.m. CST

    itrainmonkeys....you are right

    by brabon300

    the edgiest musical act snl had on during the first years was elvis costello, and only because the sex pistols couldnt get a visa<p>for cutting edge musical talent, one watched fridays...only problem was, that was the only good thing about that awful show

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:44 p.m. CST

    ldm882

    by Hercules

    "even my apparently uneducated ass knows that Jewish people have very little in common, genealogically and racially, with people who are thought of having traditional Asian/Mongolian ancestry." <p>For a contrary viewpoint, watch the "Mongolian Beef" episode of "The Sarah Silverman Program."

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 9:04 p.m. CST

    On this "looking Asian enough" matter

    by Hercules

    When George Takei and SNL vet Gilbert Gottfried were on Howard Stern together, Takei remarked that Gottfried looked almost exactly like Takei's Japanese grandfather. <p> So if Rob and Fred and Nasim don't have the East Asian look you're craving, remember that Gottfried joined the show way back in 1980.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Jay Pharaoh is annoying

    by wampa_droppings

    I'l never get those 8 minutes of my life back.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Perhaps some distinction needs to be made regarding continents

    by tombseye

    For example, contrary to American popular belief Africans aren't all the same (in fact, North Africans are genetically more similar to southern Europeans and West Asians in-general than to sub-Saharan Africans). Similarly, and this is more obvious, Asians aren't a race. You're correct regarding Schneider and Armisen as part East Asian, but Pedrad is a Mideastern Persian. Calling her Asian, in the US census bureau sense, is like calling a Russian from Siberia (or Kazakhstan) an Asian, and we don't hear that very often if at all. Jews aren't Asian. In fact, most left the Mideast region thousands of years ago and intermingled with Europeans (as did the Gypsies or Roma who left what is today Pakistan 1,000 years ago and entered Europe and mixed in) so that they are now really only part Mideastern, to varying degrees. Israelis are another matter as they range from Russian to Ethiopian to Israeli Arabs.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Herc

    by BadMrWonka

    again, all due respect, I think you're reaching. if you take issue with the abritrary racial distinctions, that's fine. I agree. most of race is really a myth, genetically there is little correlation between the visual cues we associate with race and genetic background. but we're talking about a social construct here. we're talking about a commitment to an Asian American cast member, that would necessitate more asian characters, asian impressions, etc. that Fred Armisen is half Japanese makes little difference when he mostly does black or latino characters, if they're meant to be a minority at all.<p> if it's not a big deal, it's not a big deal. I don't think it's all that egregious, I think most people here like to complain. but the Israel is Asian thing, and a lot of this other stuff is a stretch. the show really hasn't had an "asian" asian cast member in its history.

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Jenny Slate>SNL

    by Yeah I Wrote That

    She co-hosts a free comedy show in Brooklyn and it's the shitttt. She is hilarious every week, and cannot be contained. Also, her work on Marcel the Shell: perfect!!

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 1 a.m. CST

    Bernie Mac, DMX, and Will Smith... all SPOT ON!!!

    by Tigger Tales

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 1 a.m. CST

    the others... not so much.

    by Tigger Tales

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 2:06 a.m. CST

    ABOUT TIME THEY ADD ANOTHER BLACK PERSON!!!

    by versatol

    Thousands upon thousands of hilarious black comedians and Lorne settles for one half of Kenan and Kel for the past 5 years??? Hasn't he realized that SNL birthed Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, and Tracy Morgan... yet he settles for Fat Albert??? I think LM wants SNL to suck balls...

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 3:06 a.m. CST

    Give me more Abby Elliot PLEASE!!!

    by HB_Dad

    She's fucking HOT!

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Bryan Cranston hosting will be GREAT!!!

    by HB_Dad

    I know he's on some new show now doing dramatic roles now, but he will always be "Hal" from "Malcolm In The Middle" to me (one of the funniest comedy series ever!!). He was probably the funniest TV dad since Al Bundy, but he had a real talent for physical comedy much like the late great John Ritter! Can't wait!!

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 4:07 a.m. CST

    I hope you're joking, Herc!

    by HellKing

    Because Gilbert Goddfried looks like George Takei's grandfather, he's considered Asian? Does that work the other way around?

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 4:55 a.m. CST

    A lot of not great impressions

    by Bass Ackwards

    But the Will Smith is amazing, I'd probably be impressed with the Denzel too but Dean Edwards has been doing a crazy spot on Denzel impression for years (I remember the first time I saw him do it I wasn't even ready for what a Denzel impression would sound like). The Jay-Z impression was pretty spot on too. But there are definitely 30 or so impressions in there just as filler, and aside from the novelty of the impressions, there wasn't much funny in there, though I'm guessing that wasn't really the point of the video so I shouldn't really judge that.

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 5:08 a.m. CST

    And on the Asian discussion

    by Bass Ackwards

    What point are you trying to prove Herc? People pointing out that SNL hasn't really ever had an Asian cast member are making a point in terms of SNL's racial cast make-up. You're turning it into a semantics issue, not sure why you feel the need to jump into the debate if you have no desire to discuss the actual point. So while yes, you may be correct on a technical point in regards to the definition of Asian, there is obviously a widely understood colloquial use of the word which you are being purposefully ignorant of, and again, I'm not sure to what point. Your statements simply ignore what others are trying to say to make an unrelated technical point (is it really important to you that people say SNL hasn't really ever utilized an EAST Asian cast member?). And on a related note, the US Census bureau does not categorize Middle Eastern and Central Asians as "Asian."

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 5:41 a.m. CST

    eddlyhong

    by hst666

    (1) I have never understood why Oriental fell out of vogue as there is nothing insulting in the word.<p><p>(2) By South East Asian, I mean a person with Mongoloid features such as Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Korean, Taiwanese, etc.

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 8:18 a.m. CST

    the jews, the asians, the europeans and the africans

    by TheBaxter

    all came from pangaea anyway.

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 8:51 a.m. CST

    WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT

    by smackfu

    Gilbert Godfried is JEWISH?!

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 9:12 a.m. CST

    People getting their tits in a twist over 'Asian'

    by smackfu

    Let's not start this again. You know, the thing where the idiot masses start to deem a word offensive and then we have to start using another word to mean the exact same thing, and then that becomes offensive, and then we end up using a phrase to describe the exact same thing, and then that becomes offensive and we end up using a fucking sentence of carefully chosen words to describe the exact same thing? <br><br>Can we stop that before it gets out of control? And while we're on the subject, now come no one ever objects to the use of 'Europeans'? Why is it only words that describe brown people gradually become offensive over time? Methinks it indicates a subconscious level of racism among the PC crowd. IE, 'deep down inside they think it's bad to be black or asian, so any word that describes someone as black or asian has a negative connotation in their mind and gradually becomes a bad word. I was playing an online game the other day and a guy got banned because his nick was 'I love Jews'. While they were discussing whether to ban him or not one of the mods referred to 'Jews' as 'the J-word' lol. Like it's a fucking curse word or an insult and not AN ACTUAL GODDAMNED RACE AND RELIGION.

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Armisen's Obama *was* better than Pharoah's...

    by themikejonas

    At least during the election campaign and early in his presidency. But for some reason in the past year or so Armisen toned it way down so that it was barely an impression.

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 10:12 a.m. CST

    TheSeeker7, no

    by bah

    It's not a geek thing. The guy is terrible. His Owen Wilson sounds like someone else's bad Travolta. There's a very good reason the video is captioned with the names -- they'd be unidentifiable otherwise.

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 10:48 a.m. CST

    I hate myself for saying last season wasn't funny...

    by Homer Sexual

    But it wasn't very funny. The only good ep all season was with Betty White, and they had a ton of ex-cast members on that ep as well. Usually I defend SNL, but it is currently wack, boring, and without MacGruber, no funny recurring sketches at all. Sigh.

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Oh for fuck's sake...

    by Blue_Demon

    pull your heads out. By "Asian" he meant "Chinese/Japanese-looking people." Okay? Forget all that "Technically, Persia is in Asia Minor" crap. He meant "Asian" as you would typically mean them: A person whow could play Sulu in a Star Trek sketch or a Vietnamese soldier or a geisha.<p>Madre de Dios...

  • Sept. 8, 2010, 1:41 p.m. CST

    @Herc

    by Cory849

    /facepalm

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 1:17 a.m. CST

    I'd like to see the Progressive lady on SNL

    by CharlesG

    Too bad Lorne Michaels doesn't seek my advice, but if I did, I'd propose Stephanie Courtney (the Progressive Insurance lady) as a new cast member. If not SNL, I hope she eventually returns to her role as Marge in "Mad Men".

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Watkins and Slate BOTH sucked taint. Revisionist scum.

    by Behemoth

    Both these chicks were terrible. Whether because they literally WERE or because they weren't given the "proper vehicle," I don't know, but they both sucked. "Bitch, please"??? Are you serious? That's funny? Tim Kazurinsky probably thinks so. <p>As for Slate, when she went an entire season without allowing herself to be spanked by Abby Elliott in even ONE sketch, I knew she just didn't have what it took.

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 9:45 a.m. CST

    I'd like to see the back of the Progressive Lady's head...

    by Behemoth

    Whilst she's bent over one of those Progressive Price Alert desks and my man-serpent claims its reward.

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST

    OK, that video WAS funny. Where was THAT Jenny Slate?

    by Behemoth

  • Sept. 9, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST

    LAST, bitches!

    by Behemoth

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