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Another Anonymous Rave For Malick's TREE OF LIFE, And Talk Of An October Release Date!

Beaks here...

Right now, the biggest mystery surrounding Terrence Malick's TREE OF LIFE is no longer what it's about, but when it'll get released. Considering that the film appears to be very nearly completed (it's already received a PG-13 from the MPAA), a late 2010 berth seems entirely plausible. But others, most notably New York Film Festival selection committee member Todd McCarthy, believe Malick and struggling distributor Apparition might hold off until Cannes 2011 - all because the film failed to make the '10 NYFF deadline. I've heard nothing reliable about the release date, but I don't understand why it has to be a festival film. Malick's last two movies - THE NEW WORLD and THE THIN RED LINE - skipped all of the major festivals in favor of late-December releases. And while it'd be nice to see Malick return to Cannes for the first time since winning Best Director for DAYS OF HEAVEN, there's always the risk that some of the more influential critics (yes, a few still exist) might not like/get the movie - which would damage Apparition's ability to sell TREE OF LIFE as an awards picture. This is why I think TREE OF LIFE should receive its surprise premiere this month at Fantastic Fest, where it'll be viewed by an enthusiastic crowd unconcerned with year-end awards (worked for Paul Thomas Anderson and THERE WILL BE BLOOD)! And this leads us to a Home Theater Forum post from "24fpssean", which was called to my attention by the estimable Rebecca Keegan (who found it via The Film Stage). This guy seems to think the film could receive an October release - which would be a great way to capitalize on the buzz from Fantastic Fest. As for why I'm assuming the film will be enthusiastically received, well, read 24fpssean's brief reaction to the movie (which he likely saw down in Austin, where Malick has been based)...
Saw TREE OF LIFE the other night at work and it really is amazing. Hypnotic, more like. I won't give anything about it away here, but yes it is long and there has already been talk in the news about Malick releasing it, then re-cutting it, then re-releasing it, etc. The main bulk of the film is about his childhood growing up in Texas (reels 3-7 out of 9!). The "creation" footage is outstanding, absolutely jawdropping, and does indeed feel like 2001 - a lot of the effects are practical and your eyes can see that, which makes it really fascinating to watch. I don't have a problem with the creation footage being connected to his boyhood, after all, most boys love dinosaurs, so that's how I looked at it. The story is framed around the death of his middle brother (in Korea?? We never know) and is a reflection on the circle of life, the evolution of life out of the mess of the Big Bang, but also about life itself (the strained relationship with his severe father, a stunning performance by Brad Pitt, just stunning), and the end of the Universe. I still haven't given anything away that hasn't already been said in the press. The film just has to be seen to be believed! One feels like a child again, seeing the world through young wide eyes. Yes, it is finished! I believe it releases in October but it may be a limited release. And yes again it's about 3 hours! There is talk of a cut down version, which Malick did for New World as well, but nothing confirmed.


Not like my expectations can get any higher. If this does actually screen at Fantastic Fest, I will be forced to destroy so many people.

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  • Sept. 3, 2010, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Holy Santa Claus shit

    by liljuniorbrown

    I have to see this now!!!

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 2:31 p.m. CST

    First

    by Amfpsych

    I'm a dick

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Darn

    by Amfpsych

    Malick is a genius I even liked thin line

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Hope this is good

    by UGG

    sound's like it could be. I liked The Thin Red Line when I finally wathched it all. Is there any sneak shot's of the "creation" footage that the reviewer speak's of?

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 2:37 p.m. CST

    The New World is a technical achievement equal too, if not bette

    by GravyAkira

    Yeah i said it. That is an America that once existed that we will never see again. Cant wait for this one!

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 2:51 p.m. CST

    I smell something leafy...

    by Reckoner

    PLANT! I'm excited for this movie, though. Malick is an artist.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 2:53 p.m. CST

    The Thin Red Line CRITERION 2-DISC

    by Reckoner

    is coming out in a couple of weeks... Will be awesome! The cover art is great...

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Aint it found on IMDB news.

    by Neck_Lucas

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Malick

    by dukeroberts

    I have never seen a Malick movie that I liked. I consider them all to be overly ponderous, pretentious and deadly boring.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Criterion 2-disc EXTRAS DETAILS:

    by dasheight

    New, restored high-definition digital transfer, supervised and approved by director Terrence Malick and cinematographer John Toll New audio commentary by cinematographer Toll, production designer Jack Fisk, and producer Grant Hill (sadly, no Malick, but not surprising) Interviews with several of the film’s actors, including Kirk Acevedo, Jim Caviezel, Thomas Jane, Elias Koteas, Dash Mihok, and Sean Penn; composer Hans Zimmer; editors Billy Weber, Leslie Jones, and Saar Klein; and writer James Jones’s daughter Kaylie Jones New interview with casting director Dianne Crittenden, featuring archival audition footage (the audition footage should be interesting) Fourteen minutes of outtakes from the film (this should be great, as so many scenes didn't make the final version) World War II newsreels from Guadalcanal and the Solomon Islands Melanesian chants trailer PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by film critic David Sterritt and a 1963 reprint by James Jones

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 3:21 p.m. CST

    as we move inexorably towards the autumn...

    by emeraldboy

    are there any films that one could call oscar worthy?

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 3:49 p.m. CST

    The Thin Red Line CRITERION 2-DISC??

    by AsimovLives

    You can't get more awesome then that.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 3:50 p.m. CST

    dukeroberts

    by AsimovLives

    Sucks to be you. Give up on movies and try knitting instead.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 3:51 p.m. CST

    "False Dawn."

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    It's a false dawn for &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;<br>you &thinsp;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj;&zwj</br>, Choppah.<BR><BR>I'll be there.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 4:11 p.m. CST

    CHOPPAH--about your apology...

    by Le Vicious Fishus

    How do I know I can trust you?

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST

    This movie...

    by HansBubi

    ...will be the best thing since THE_CHOPPAH chopped AsimovLives. Also, I know some people don't care for Malick's films, yet I've found all of them very watchable and interesting, and every one has improved with multiple viewings. I'm excited about the upcoming blu-ray release of The Thin Red Line. Chop away.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Love Badlands and Days of heaven

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    I've still not seen The Thin Red Line.<br><br> Was not impressed by The New World. It was infuriating how EVERYONE whispered throughout the whole film. It was like a parody of a Malick film.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Michael Philips pretty much nails Machete...

    by SunTzu77

    in his review. <br> http://tiny.cc/swlkx <br> having said that Tree of Life sounds intriguing.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 4:55 p.m. CST

    "Malik is an artist"...

    by Kint

    ... the way the plastic bag was profound in American Beauty

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 4:59 p.m. CST

    will there be tall grass blowing in the wind?

    by HaterofCrap

    malick is junk. they should have him do iron man 3. now that would be funny.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 5:03 p.m. CST

    What the FUCK is the story about?

    by D.Vader

    Damnit. I hate when reviewers start talking about things without any context, assuming we'll know and understand. Bleh. Anyway, what little is here sounds like The Fountain mixed with Charlie Kaufman's planned opening for The Orchid Thief.

  • What a missed opportunity!!! I'm so disappointed. No Billy Bob, no Viggo, no every other Hollywood actor.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 5:20 p.m. CST

    After Thin Red Line...

    by SG7

    ...I'm not sure I can honestly pay for one of his films.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Anonymous Rave = Harry

    by hysfvbsaygvandsv

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 5:28 p.m. CST

    D.Vader

    by STICKY WHITE

    Here's a pretty spoilery rundown of the script if you're interested. http://tinyurl.com/288emhf <p>And as far as THE THIN RED LINE footage, I read this supposed quote from a cameraman who worked on THE NEW WORLD named William Gray over in the IMDB message boards (which I take with a HUGE grain of salt): "We did talk about 'The Thin Red Line'. He said he had over 6 hours of edited story finished. What you saw in the theaters was what needed to be for the reps of a movie theater. I asked him if he thought of releasing the 6 as a DVD box set and I assured him that there would me a line of people just waiting to get their hands on it. He said that some things that you put so much of your life and heart into are best left alone for a few years."

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 5:39 p.m. CST

    I will be getting that THIN RED LINE Criterion.

    by ColonelFatheart

    Fuck yes. I remember seeing that in the theater on the first night of its wide release, heading into it thinking, "There's no way this is going to be better than SAVING PRIVATE RYAN." <p>I was wrong, and I knew it right from the beginning. All these people shitting on Malick's poetic bent, okay, fine, it's not for you. But you're implying it's empty, just pretty pictures of shit blowing in the wind. Well, you're mistaken. What's wrong with being so cognizant of nature, particularly when the drama of human experience, particularly one of destruction, plays out in it?

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Folks, look up profound.

    by gotilk

    No offense, but that word is misused almost as often as "emo". Anyone who thought the "plastic bag in American Beauty" was profound or even meant to be needs to head back to community college.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Thin Red Line won the Berlinale 1999

    by Quaked

    Talking about major film festivals. While the USA release was prior to the festival this is still ignorant. New World was in competition 2006.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 6:05 p.m. CST

    What I got from that review

    by RPLocke

    The movie was jaw droppingly awesome but no one knows why?

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    So let me get this straight...

    by Skyway Moaters

    ... You guys hate "American Beauty" now? All you fanboys who've never come within 100 miles of making a film of your own? I'm in the wrong place...

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 6:54 p.m. CST

    D.Vader right on.

    by The Dark Nolan

    A new release of TTRL with all the original footage, 8 hours or not would be like seeing a whole new Malick film, can't believe they are gonna trash all that footage, maybe one day we'll get it. Can't wait for "The Tree of Life" though. However, I like not knowing much about it, more exciting that way me thinks. I've got a feeling it will make it out this year though. He's filming another film soon and that seems to be fully confirmed, so the other film must be done. Crossing my fingers.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Beaks, I'm always a little skeptical of reviews like this

    by BadMrWonka

    did he comment on or mention a single thing that you couldn't glean from other articles? not really. not saying he's a plant, for from it. I think it's just maybe some dude who was trying to get some attention on another board by claiming to have seen it. and then through the internet grapevine, it ends up here.<p>seriously, read it again with a skeptical eye. anything that proves he saw it? the claim about the reels is the only thing, and even that could be completely spurious, who knows?<p>I'm just saying. take anything about Malick screenings with an unusually large grain of salt.

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 7:37 p.m. CST

    The New World

    by D o o d

    was DogShit, so I'm not all that hyped for this<p>However, with every new release, I will give it a viewing and decide then!

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 11:15 p.m. CST

    The New World Was Not Dogshit

    by Raskolnikov_was_framed

    and just because you claimed it to be D o o d I'm throwing in my extended cut bluray right now...film is tops

  • Sept. 3, 2010, 11:46 p.m. CST

    The Thin Red Line is probably my favorite film ever

    by RedJester

    I'm surprised there was no mention of Sean Penn's acting performance in the review. Because no offense to Brad Pitt, but Sean Penn can act circles around him. I'm not a Pitt-hater, it's just a fact.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Digging the love for the Thin Red Line!

    by andrew coleman

    Tree of Life has got my ticket already. Malick is like Nolan in my book. He makes a movie and I'm seeing it no matter what. Malick's film are like art to me. Thanks for the update on the DVD release guys. I'm totally getting it.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 1:21 a.m. CST

    Asimov

    by dukeroberts

    Knitting is too slow and boring. Like all of Malick's films. I will stick with less "poetic" and "profound" films than those directed by the "auteur" Terrance Malick. Thinking one artsy fartsy director's movies are crap does not make me not a movie fan, or not a "film" fan.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 2:09 a.m. CST

    Gahhhh.

    by Traumnovelle

    I'm going OUT OF MY MIND for this movie.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 3:28 a.m. CST

    THE_CHOPPAH

    by Executor

    Your schtick is tired and unfunny. It's not catching on. Time to give it up.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 7:39 a.m. CST

    Malick is so overrated

    by mojoman69

    and his films are BORING! I dotn care how "lyrical" they are. Lyrical is arthosue speak for boring 3 hour yawnfest!

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 8:13 a.m. CST

    It's really amazing to be able to see a blatant dumbing down...

    by rbatty024

    of America. When you call a film boring, you're not saying anything about the movie, you're saying something about your attention span and your inability to articulate a worthwhile critique of a film. Go read.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 9:26 a.m. CST

    rbatty024

    by WeylandYutani

    agreed.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Malick is like Nolan in your book?

    by jawsfan

    Wow. Way to elevate Nolan WAY above and beyond his artistic capabilities. "Memento" aside, Nolan is sadly deficient in the craft of film-making. Malick's bowel movements have more artistic credibility than Nolan's movies. But to each his own, I guess. You want to fawn all over Nolan, fine. Go ahead. I don't agree with your assessment of him. But I agree with you that Malick has done some wonderful stuff and I am particularly fond of TTRL. Yes, I have already pre-ordered the Blu-ray Criterion discs.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 9:35 a.m. CST

    As for Tree of Life...

    by WeylandYutani

    I am hoping for 2001 ASO greatness or perhaps Apocalypse Now greatness. <P> Malick has to be the best American filmaker working today. When you hear guys like Spielberg, Scorsese, Jarmusch or Guy Maddin referencing him, they talk about Malick with an-almost religious reverence.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Thin Red Line was fucking ROUGH

    by mr.underwater

    I left the theater feeling shell-shocked and drained. I went to the bar across the street and stared at my glass of beer for twenty minutes before taking a sip. All in all, a really good movie that I don't think I'll ever be able to sit through again.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 11:19 a.m. CST

    I love love love love love startrek. It cannot be said enough.

    by UltraTron

    I love all the shitty trek at this point. I love cybok and uhura's un-thinkable dance. I love when Scott Bakula saved the entire multi-verse and all timelines. I love the boring characters that never developed on enterprise like chip or whatever his name was who they finally kill to try and squeeze something interesting out of em. Actually I don't love him. Oh and I hate original jar jar Wesley crusher. Just give me an all female crew of hot lesbians already. People would watch that show

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 12:15 p.m. CST

    WHEN HE SAYS "HYPNOTIC" - HE MEANS FUCKEN' BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by JonChambers

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 12:17 p.m. CST

    MALICK = THE UWE BOLLE OF HOLLYWOOD SLEEPING PILLS

    by JonChambers

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 12:21 p.m. CST

    New World is better than Avatar

    by GravyAkira

    To put it more simply. And I really was excited for Avatar, plus Im a huge fan Mr. Cameron. But Avatar is the John Smith story told all over again, except with aliens and 3D. New World transports me far better in 2D. And yes, Thin Red Line is AMAZING.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Bullshit. Avatar has nothing to do with any of this bullshit.

    by UltraTron

    Avatar is a movie about a guy who hires this grunt to do a job for him. The grunt betrays him and so he has to get in a giant robot and jump out of his crashing attackship and deal some giant robot justice machete style. But before that unbelievable awesomeness we get to see him destroy this tree that's like as big as a mountain and just the roots of that tree giving way is probably the biggest explosion done for a movie. Fuck trees. Over-rated. We've evolved to live off gasoline fumes at this point -we don't need some stupid trees cluttering up our beautiful concrete

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 1:12 p.m. CST

    TREE OF LIFE is...Malick's autobiography??

    by BadWaldosRevenge

    Sounds like it. "Hyponotic" and "majestic" mean potential boredom, and Terry's known for deliberately slow pace, but different style because it's like watching the progress of gorgeous, adept painting and photography on film. Three hours sounds a big longish, and that butt-numbing length might hurt the box office due to word of mouth. Kubrick didn't give a shit what anyone thought when he did 2001, but he had the foresight to cut 20 minutes of extraneous footage after premiere. Let's hope Malick keeps rolling with more films, and if luck has it, he should be the best candidate to adapt CATCHER IN THE RYE. Whereas AVATAR is just a popcorn eyecandy movie, TREE OF LIFE should massage the brain with pleasant esthetics because it's one gigantic art movie. And Malick have the rare commanding power to make properly funded artful movies anytime due to his reputation established after DAYS OF HEAVEN, even though his slate of films generally don't do well at the box office...

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Say what you want about Avatar

    by D o o d

    or anything movie like. What you can't say that it wasn't entertaining in some way.<p>The New World was just pure pretentious boredom. Now I'm not saying that Malick can't direct. I'm saying the film was BO-RING!

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 1:25 p.m. CST

    "ANY"

    by D o o d

    Sorry minor error there!

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    by chewyou812

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 2:25 p.m. CST

    I am so uneducated re: Malick

    by Kammich

    During my formative teenage years, I was able to dive into the back catalog of pretty much every high profile director through my local video store's $0.50 VHS rentals. for a 15 year old, I actually got pretty well versed on everyone from the legendary to relatively obscure... yet, to this day, I've never seen a Terrence Malick movie. I know he only has a few, but it still pisses me off. the dude has made, what, five full-length features in a 37-year career? and yet he is one of the most talked-about directors among real film geeks. those type of resumes fascinate me. I'm probably most frustrated because I love World War 2 movies, so I should've seen "The Thin Red Line" by now. and I've always held an interest in the Starkweather murders, so I should've seen "Badlands" by now. I think NetFlix is about to get a Malick overdrive.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 2:57 p.m. CST

    rbatty

    by mojoman69

    just because someone tells you a director is great doesnt make it so. Malick should paint.His pictures are pretty, but they dont move. Staring off into the sunset or at waves of wheat isnt deep, its just jerking off. Even Kubrick, who was a much better director than Malick had some missteps(barry lyndon, eyes wide shut) they cant all be masterpieces. But even they were move interesting. Movies are meant to entertain primarily. Slow paced art house films dont entertain. Its not about intellect, its about content and talent and hyperbole in this case. if you enjoy Malick then goody for you. But, he certainly isnt everybodys cup of tea.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 3:06 p.m. CST

    malick is a genius

    by pettitsusername

    fuck the haters.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Hear, hear, mojoman69!

    by dukeroberts

    This intellectual posturing based on the output of one director is ridiculous. "What? You don't love the slow, mindnumbing boredom conjured up in the films of Terrance Malick? Why...you must be a knuckle dragging neanderthal!" Come on. Some of us think he's fricking boring. I enjoyed Howard's End. It's just a matter of taste, a difference of opinion.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 3:17 p.m. CST

    ?

    by redkamel

    I dont know if a Fantastic Fest premiere carries quite the same weight as Cannes

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Barry Lyndon is hardly a misstep, rbatty.

    by Flip63Hole

    It's probably my favorite Kubrick film. Unlike Malick, Kubrick is telling a compelling story along with the deliberate pace and beautiful imagery. I watch it at least a few times a year. Still can't stay awake through a Malick film, though...

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Dukeroberts

    by mojoman69

    Well its the emperors new clothes all over again. Just like most modern music. I cant stand it. Im told im a luddite but I dont care. Can you compare Lady Gaga and Usher to Led zepplin or Pink Floyd? its nopt that i dotn GET modern music, I just dotn like it. the melodies and lyrics are a joke, with rare exception. Movies are the same. THere are few directors that blow wind up my skirt. The guys who use to are either dead ( Hawks, Peckinpah, Kubrick) or have lost their edge, Speilberg, Carpenter, Tarentino. its really hard to get behind something these days that is of actual merit. I wont go to see a film just because somebody directed it. (escept maybe for Miyazaki) A lot of directors, Malick, Nolan, Zemeckis etc. dotn deserve a lot of the praise that they get. But, hype is a powerful weapon for those like to herd the sheepish masses.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Well Flip actually that was me, not Rbatty.

    by mojoman69

    If you like Barry Lyndon and Ryan Oneal's painful attempt at acting, then go for it. I think Kubrick enjoyed getting bad actors (Oneal, Cruise, Kidman) under his control so he could fuck with them. He was a naughty boy.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    I cant see how BArry Lyndon could

    by mojoman69

    surpass Clockwork Orange, 2001 or Dr strangelove, or even paths of Glory, but there you go. hell even Spartacus was better.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Jim Jarmusch

    by Kammich

    I saw someone mention Jarmusch earlier in this TB in reference to Malick, so I imdb'd him to refresh my memory of what he's done(love, love "Ghost Dog")... and, holy shit, that dude is fucking COOL looking. like, hilarious cool. he looks like Eli Roth if Eli Roth put his finger in an electrical socket. okay, sorry for seriously lowering the intellectual level of the TB, but I couldn't help it.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Mojo...

    by rbatty024

    My problem isn't so much with people who don't like Malick. Rather, there are certain words that get my blood boiling (and I may have overreacted just a bit...maybe). These words include "boring" and "pretentious," among others. To me they're lazy critiques for people who don't have anything interesting to say about a film the don't like. <p> As far as Barry Lyndon goes, I've always had mixed feelings about that film. On the one hand it's gorgeous to look at, but on the other hand I've always felt awfully cold about any of the characters in the movie. It's a triumph of form over character, which was always a line Kubrick skirted in his films. Sometimes his obsessive nature killed the performances in certain movies.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Barry Lyndon

    by Kammich

    you hit the nail on the head with your last line, rbatty. It really is up there as one of Kubrick's prettiest films to look at(John Alcott's photography of the interiors, in particular, is breathtaking)... but for all the depth and warmth that the visuals give you, the performances feel completely and utterly sterile. its a fascinating movie to watch, just to see Kubrick's obsessive nature working its way into a strict period piece, but ultimately I dismiss it as not much more than that.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 5:35 p.m. CST

    rbatty

    by mojoman69

    Well, I do find Malicks films a bit boring. I appreciate his visual elan,but sometimes I just wish things would start rolling! Barry Lyndon is nice to look at and the score is great, but just doesnt work for me. I hate ryan Oneal is almost anything and often wonder what the hell Kubrick was thinking when he cast him. But there are worst period pieces. Like Sofia Coppolla's vapid marie Antoinette. Kristen Dunst is about as bad an actress as you can get. and the put her in a period piece is even more laughable. JAson schwartzman as King Louis? Jesus! Where do these people come up with this shit? How about John Wayne as genghis khan? ooops that was already done. LOL

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Didn't Malick's brother really die?

    by Knuckleduster

    I heard/read something about his brother being a struggling musician studying in Europe who eventually committed suicide. Something about broken hands? And Malick feeling very guilty about his brother's death? Geez, I really can't remember. Could be talking out of my ass. <p> Anyway, I still don't understand how anyone can call his films slow. He told more story and went throught more plot in The New World than most filmmakers could handle in an entire six-part mini-series. Every single scene conveys so much about the characters and the world they inhabit. I find his films quite dense, but very subtle. Maybe that's what annoys some viewers. He's not "in your face", like most filmmakers tend to be. Let's face it, subtext is very rare in cinema these days.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 6:10 p.m. CST

    gotilk (way back... all others ignore )

    by Kint

    you'd miss the point in a room full of big pointy things (irony is far more misused than notions, and their application, of profundity – at least the latter is subjective)... as for community college - 80% of students who attend such places do so for a lack of the readies needed for universities – tis’ g.p.a that counts. malik has never left film school - adaptation of the western canon has propelled his entire filmography - judging from both your tone & vocab, it's perhaps fair to say that you haven't read much of it - the fact is, if you find malik profound & 'poetic', you exist in a culturally poor environ - hated avatar, but there's more honesty in that 'dances with blue wolves in space' mess than there is in anything malik had made.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Thank God I will never have to see a Malick film again.

    by FluffyUnbound

    I may have to get old and die, but at least I don't have to waste any of my finite days on this Earth viewing any of his boring, pretentious, absurd crap.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Barry Lyndon at least had a plot. And a character arc.

    by FluffyUnbound

    Which is more than can be said for THIN RED LINE. For me, the moment of decision for ALL of Malick's work is the Nick Nolte internal monologue voiceover near the beginning of THIN RED LINE. That made me say, "This guy is a douche who thinks he has profound insight into life and the human condition, but really he's just a douche" and I will never come back from that. I can't watch a single frame of his work without thinking, "Fuck you, douche."

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Kammich, start with badlands...

    by iwasredempted

    incredible movie. the other ones, in my opinion, you have to have a certain taste for films. they can be rather tedious if your not in the mood.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Blah blah blah blah it's my attention span.

    by FluffyUnbound

    No, it's not. I'm quite sure I'm better read than anyone else at this site. I just have contempt for people who contrive meaningless word salads and maudlin nonsense in order to dupe losers into thinking they're "sensitive" and "profound". Anyone who would compare this dope to Kubrick for even two seconds has absolutely no idea what either guy was about. What the FUCK is the similarity? The way Barry Lyndon was LIT? Kubrick was a master craftsman with an unmatched ability to match STORY to THEME, and Malick makes up idiotic word salads like a third-rate poseur douchebag at a poetry slam. Except he does it with a camera. You know that scene in Animal House where John Belushi smashes the hippie folk singing poseur's guitar? I wish someone would do that to Malick's camera, because Malick IS THAT GUY.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 8:11 p.m. CST

    FluffyUnbound, i somewhat agree with you....

    by iwasredempted

    i personally think malick is incredibly talented, but his most recent films did come off like they didn't have much of a plot. i give him a free pass for badlands sorta like i give david lynch a free pass for blue velvet, eraserhead and elephant man. lynch's later movies also meander and almost seem like plot less self indulgent messes. that doesn't make him less of a genius.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 9:47 p.m. CST

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    by Shalako

    The ignorance in some of these statements makes me laugh. Ah, such feeble, childish thoughts expressed poorly. They stink of secret pain and pretense and emotional wounds that will never heal.

  • Sept. 4, 2010, 10:14 p.m. CST

    What a shitty title

    by RPLocke

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 2:52 a.m. CST

    Oh no fluffy, *you* don't have rediculously

    by ohsostupidlongassfuckingscreennames

    overinflated opinion of yourself. " I'm quite sure I'm better read than anyone else at this site." And just how the fuck can you know that oh 'omnicient' one? How in the name of God's holy trousers do you and your ego fit in the same room? You're as bad as CHOPPA, for pity's sake, and that's a thorougly revolting idea to comtemplate. <p> Piss off you git.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Thin Red Line was profound to me

    by robertdee

    I saw it as all about buddhism - attachment and suffering. Incredible.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 5:48 a.m. CST

    I saw thin red line with my late...

    by emeraldboy

    dad. I am not sure he liked it. and he was in the us army for 5 years.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Mojo, we may not agree on Malick, but....

    by rbatty024

    I fully agree with you on Marie Antoinette. Again, it's a well shot film, but the acting/characterization is so awful that it absolutely destroys that film. Before seeing the film I thought the contemporary songs would be interesting, but even those didn't seem to have a purpose. What an absolute waste. It's killed my interest in Sophia Coppola as a filmmaker.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 6:07 a.m. CST

    Rbatty

    by mojoman69

    Yes adding modern music was a dare and it works in some films, but not here. What a waste of Versailles! Id rather watch the 1938 version with Norma Shearer and Tyrone Power.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

    GDT wants to cast Tom Cruise in Mountains of Madness?

    by mojoman69

    That is madness. I respect GDT a lot, but this I hope is a bad rumor. I know James McAvoy was on th eshrot list. He would be a decent choice. but Cruise? fuck me that is bad news.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 7:57 a.m. CST

    GDT wants to cast Tom Cruise in Mountains of Madness?

    by mojoman69

    That is madness. I respect GDT a lot, but this I hope is a bad rumor. I know James McAvoy was on th eshrot list. He would be a decent choice. but Cruise? fuck me that is bad news.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 7:59 a.m. CST

    Lets get a write in campaign going.

    by mojoman69

    NO Tom Cruise in a HPL film. This must not stand!

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 8:37 a.m. CST

    The Thin Red Shite

    by Sir Nigel Lengthington-Smythe

    Malick is a boring, overrated twat.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Does anyone know of a movie site...

    by Knuckleduster

    ... where people actually discuss films and not vomit insults all the time? Not trying to be funny here; I'm as guilty as anyone of falling for the troll trap. But seriously, is there a site where mature film buffs intelligently debate cinema? I'd love to know.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 11:40 a.m. CST

    translation: hypnotic = boring

    by HaterofCrap

    and a stunning performance out of brat pitt? yeah fuckin right.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 12:12 p.m. CST

    knuckleduster

    by mojoman69

    there is some good debate here. oh sure there is some animosity at times, but there is also some lively banter and often some breaking news.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Re: If you don't dig Malick

    by RegnadKcin

    +1 on johnnyrandom's comment Malick makes films for thinking adults. That's not to say you have to always like his stuff, but you do have to appreciate the craftsmanship.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Knuckleduster

    by Shalako

    Head over to mubi.com

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Blow me, guy with too long name

    by FluffyUnbound

    I was not the one to bring up fucking library sizes here. You might want to look farther up the thread for the person asserting that no one who finds Malick boring can possibly ever have read a book. You know what books I haven't read? Any poetry written after Eliot. Yeah, including Ginsburg. Why haven't I read any poetry after Eliot? Because of fucking poets. The most contemptible people on the fucking planet. Invariably it's some asshole with absolutely no insight into anything at all, and no capacity for any activity other than wasting my fucking time and annoying me with their very being, who wants me to look at their slim volume of verse inspired by Jim Morrison or by their own abuse survivorship. No thanks. And Malick is one of those people who somehow learned how to point a camera. Hypnotic might not always mean boring, but in Malick's sense it always means affected, maudlin, warmed-over transcendentalist smack. He missed his calling - he should have run a yoga studio in a California minimall, right between a tanning salon and a fucking Quiznos.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Blow me, guy with too long name

    by FluffyUnbound

    I was not the one to bring up fucking library sizes here. You might want to look farther up the thread for the person asserting that no one who finds Malick boring can possibly ever have read a book. You know what books I haven't read? Any poetry written after Eliot. Yeah, including Ginsberg. Why haven't I read any poetry after Eliot? Because of fucking poets. The most contemptible people on the fucking planet. Invariably it's some asshole with absolutely no insight into anything at all, and no capacity for any activity other than wasting my fucking time and annoying me with their very being, who wants me to look at their slim volume of verse inspired by Jim Morrison or by their own abuse survivorship. No thanks. And Malick is one of those people who somehow learned how to point a camera. Hypnotic might not always mean boring, but in Malick's sense it always means affected, maudlin, warmed-over transcendentalist smack. He missed his calling - he should have run a yoga studio in a California minimall, right between a tanning salon and a fucking Quiznos.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Oh well. I guess I didn't hit the stop button in time.

    by FluffyUnbound

    I should post it 100 times in a row. Making you Malick fans read the same post 100 times in a row might begin to subject you to the level of boredom Malick subjects the rest of us to.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 4:09 p.m. CST

    dukeroberts

    by AsimovLives

    You cna take out the inverted commas from profoudn and peotic, because there's no irony about that when calling that to a Malick movie. They are the real deal. If you can't appreciate that, then there's always alternatives, like the movies of Mickey Bay or Jar Jar Abrams.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 4:13 p.m. CST

    "THE_CHOPPAH chopped AsimovLives"

    by AsimovLives

    What the fuck is that even supposed to mean? It emans absolutly nothing at all! What does chopped mean? To out-retard anybody else? Well, if so, then The_Choppah sure does that, to everybody. THE_CHOPPAH should change his nick to THE_RETARD_TROOL. Longer but much more appropos.

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Thin Red Line made me lose my favorite hat

    by Flip63Hole

    I was using it as a shield from the light of the screen so I could take a nap. Got nudged once the credits rolled from a friend and I guess I was still so out of it I set my hat on my lap and forgot about it when I got up to leave. Still haven't seen all of Thin Red Line. God, I miss that hat...

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 9:13 p.m. CST

    I think CHOPPED is some show on the food channel.

    by RPLocke

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Kammich

    by Bob_Dole

    Exact same for me. Surprised I haven't seen a Malik film (to my knowledge). Even more shocked I haven't seen The Thin Red Line, as it's obviously a classic and something I SHOULD have seen already. Will put it high on the NetFlix que. Oh, and Tree of Life sounds intriguing, so I'll probably see it in the theater...

  • Sept. 5, 2010, 10:36 p.m. CST

    by Bob_Dole

    Also, to whoever recommended mubi.com I just checked it out and would like to thank you!

  • Sept. 6, 2010, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Barry Lyndon and Eyes Wide Shut are misteps? Whaaa??

    by RedJester

    Now, I've officially heard it all! And Malick is God, much in the same vein that Kubrick was God.

  • Sept. 6, 2010, 11:12 a.m. CST

    "Hypnotic" = ADD-afflicted Fanboy Losers...

    by duanejones

    <p>...lash out at what they can't understand and otherwise interrupts their drooling. That said, the voiceovers in THIN RED LINE are comically overwrought, but got better around the time of THE NEW WORLD. BTW -- speaking of lost THIN footage, whatever happened to Mickey Rourke's excised sniper scenes? Will those make i back int the Criterion set? Credit Malick for bringing Rourke into his film, against all his backers' wishes, a full decade before Mick's offical redemption.</p> <p>TREE sounds dope as hell. I will see it. Yes. I will. Any you AICN Austin-ites think you can wrangle an interview with the reclusive Mr. Malick?</p>

  • Sept. 6, 2010, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Malick should have been the one to make "Watchmen"

    by ChocolateJesusMan

    not to hijack the talkback or anything..but in my humble opinion Zack Snyder took a big greasy Taco Bell dump on one of..or if not the greatest novel of all time with an ending..that left me foaming at the mouth like a rabies victim..so if anyone should have made watchmen ( with Jack Nicholson as the comedian) it should have been Malick

  • Sept. 6, 2010, 1:37 p.m. CST

    BARRY LYNDON is a cinematic masterpiece

    by AsimovLives

    You can tell, by the opinions about that movie, which are the people who really love cinema, and the fools who only watch movies to see shit explode. And that's those who like and admire BARRY LYNDON and those that can't.

  • Sept. 6, 2010, 2:38 p.m. CST

    At the end of the day

    by D o o d

    what it comes down to is that did you leave the cinema with a lasting effect that was pleasant. Whether it be the story, the visuals, the action etc. So whatever you guys go away with from a Malick movie, I can respect. However, what I can't accept is when people seem to rave on about him like he's some kind of amazing director that just does not make bad films.<p>Just because a movie doesn't make billions does not mean it is void of any substance, HOWEVER, this rule also applies the other way round.<p>I did not just dislike The New World by Malick but I hated it. It was close to 2.5 hours of boring pain. I'm not saying that he doesn't know where to put the camera or how to get performances out of his actors. What I'm saying is that when it's boring then all that doesn't matter.

  • Sept. 6, 2010, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Big Bang - End of Universe =

    by grendel69

    Must see this now.

  • Sept. 6, 2010, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Snyder's Watchmen

    by Kammich

    I liked it, especially the masturbatory "Ultimate Cut" with the pirate comic, death of Hollis, etc. The problem is that I ultimately liked it because my sentiment was, "well, in other hands, that could've been a lot worse." Thats not exactly a glowing endorsement at the end of the day. I think its such a hard piece of material to adapt... the graphic novel is so dense, and so re-readable, that I think every person who ever picked up the graphic novel has had a different take on it. Hence, it had to be nearly impossible to adapt. Snyder's solution was to adapt it in the most visually literal form... it is practically frame-for-frame like the book--especially the Ultimate Cut--and just overflowing with visual nods to fans of the book. And while thats pretty entertaining to watch, its a totally hollow experience compared to the book.

  • Sept. 7, 2010, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Malick's watchmen?

    by knowthyself

    The last thing WATCHMEN needed was an art house director to change the whole damn comic. It would have been three hours of Dr. Manhattan on Mars doing endless narration on how everything is red and beautiful. I love Malick but no thanks. Snyder did an amazing job. I loved his Watchmen and the Ultimate Cut is a wet dream if your a fan of the comic.

  • Sept. 14, 2010, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Thin Red Line

    by Shubniggorath

    Seen it twice, about 10 years apart, and liked it even less the second time. I can handle slow-paced, meditative movies... in fact, I thought these moments were the movie's strength and the one aspect I enjoyed. What killed me was was a pussy coward the main dude was. By the time he caught his bullet at the end, I cheered. Soldiers like that get other soldiers killed. They should have left his ass in the brig, and saved me 3 hours of wanting to shoot him myself.