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UNBREAKABLE 2 To Be The Third NIGHT CHRONICLES Movie??
I am – Hercules!!
"Unbreakable 2" may be coming soon -- but it will likely not be scripted or directed by the guy who wrote and directed "Unbreakable."
"I'll just say it: the third 'Night Chronicles' movie is what would have been the ['Unbreakable'] sequel,” "Unbreakable" writer-director M. Night Shyamalan tells MTV News.
“Night Chronicles,” for those unaware, is the series of movies spawned from Shyamalan ideas but written and directed by other filmmakers.
The first in the Night Chronicles series is the elevator thriller “Devil.” The second in the Night Chronicles series is titled “Twelve Strangers” and deals with a jury deliberating on a case involving the supernatural.
The third Night Chronicles (let’s call it NC3) sounds like it won’t be called “Unbreakable 2.” It also sounds like its hero won’t be named David Dunn.
So how is NC3 “Unbreakable 2”?
Excerpts:
"I cannibalized the idea for the sequel to 'Unbreakable' for one of the 'Night Chronicles,'" revealed Shyamalan.
"It was such a cool idea for a villain, and it was actually originally in the script for 'Unbreakable,' and it was too much," he said of his reasons for excising the element that was intended to become "Unbreakable 2." "There were too many villains, so I pulled this villain out and was like, 'I'll make this the second flick.'"
"I fleshed it out more and more, and thought, 'This could be a standalone movie,'" he said.
An “Unbreakable” sequel directed by someone other than Shyamalan is great news, I suppose, for those who love “Unbreakable” but hate everything Shyamalan has directed since. (I love quite a bit of what he’s done since, so I am not in that camp.)
I’m guessing he’s not calling it “Unbreakable 2” because the people who control the “Unbreakable” sequel rights are not yet willing to relinquish those rights, nor are they yet ready to finance a sequel themselves.
Find all of MTV’s story on the matter here.
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I wish he would just make it. Im with you Herc...though he hasnt made the movie like he used to I still like alot of what hes done. I'm still onboard
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There, I said it!
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Not Really. Uh I guess.
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sorry....could not resist :)p
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So it has nothing to do with the first and yet its a sequel?
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Can't wait, more Bruce in a raincoat please!
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M. Night is the superhero himself and he saves the world from an evil movie producer lady turned super villain, let's call her Tina.
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M.Night talks about this film more than McFarlane talks about his remake of Spawn.....neither will happen. He is a "one hit wonder" with Sixth Sense. Move on...nothing to see here...
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Can be really good. Uncriticized.
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it's the last time M Night Shammy made something I thought was cool. OK, Signs was pretty good - that's it. I would pay to see Unbreakable 2 and that's the highest praise I can give.
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Could be neat to have an Unbreakable style origin story for a villain, then have a third movie being the battle between the two.
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I read villan...fleshed out...standalone and jumped to the wrong conclusion. Oh well.
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IMO that was SMJ's best work. Mknight is proving that he's really of his rocker.
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Really, That got old really fast... IMO
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Your misunderstood idea sounds really great!
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That would be awesome.
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It is actually Unbreakable 2, with Bruce Willis as David Dunn, and Knight writes and directs it. I have full faith in him doing another Unbreakable. The reason his last few movies blew was the material he was rushing into coming up with. I believe he is capable of writing and directing an Unbreakable sequel that stays close to and is in the same vein of the first. PLEASE DON'T WASTE AN IDEA FOR UNBREAKABLE 2 ON SOME STANDALONE FILM WHEN IT WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER AS UNBREAKABLE 2. Maybe it's just wishful thinking that he has it in him, but I don't think I'm alone in wanting a true Unbreakable sequel.
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Everyone says the last good film you made was your second one you ever made from nearly 10 years ago....<p> Especially when you work a job when you got one opening weekend to get paid.<p>okay maybe some DVD sales too...<p>I wonder when folks will see M Knight's film making the same way they think of Ashley Simpson's singing?
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Making an Unbreakable sequel without the Unbreakable characters still won't satisfy fans. But Shyamlan will probably never do Unbreakable 2 cause his huge ego was bruised too much by Disney.
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Pretentious prick
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...sounds like a remake of Twelve Angry Men. The original film is one of my favorite movies. But I think there have been enough re-imaginings of it - from loose remakes to sitcom episodes - that we don't need another one.
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Why was Unbreakable so good: 1) neat twist (kudos to Shammy) 2) BRUNO
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and bring Willis back. If it's such a great villain/sequel idea, why piss it away on something unrecognizable? Btw, I liked Signs and parts of The Village, but hated the rest with a passion.
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When cinema audiences laugh at your name during a trailer, you know your career is over!<p>Take the hint M Night, stop making shit!
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Man....those guys know how to report on movies. What an outstanding operation they are running over there. They report it and everyone else begs at the table waiting for some scraps to fall to the floor. Thank you MTV. Thank you for the news.
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He's AWESOME at trailers.
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I'd rather M Night attempt it himself. The original is a fine, fine movie.
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Especially the pilot. Then it steadily strayed away from that, and of course the rest is history we'd all rather forget now.
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same vague idea but with different name and different characters. Witten by a different writer and directed by someone different also.<br><br>So the only real connection is like a passing fart inside Shamylangadongo's head.
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Synopsis: A badly confused Mark Wahlberg and Zooey Deschanel try to put their lives and careers back together in the wake of what they thought should have been a critical and box office success, but turned out to be another erratic creation by an increasingly bizarre director.<p> Harrowing.
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Sept. 3, 2010, 4:36 a.m. CST
ANYTHING to prevent him from fucking up another AIRBENDER movie.
by MaxTheSilent
I'd fully support that shit.
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So, so sad.
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That the legality of him being allowed to do this is absurd? Surely the holders to the rights for the sequel would either place an injunction on this obvious tie-in to their franchise (with Shymalan's above comments indicting him) or would allow the production to go so far before pulling a 'Watchmen' & claim the distribution rights & net gross without the need to fund the picture. I found Unbreakable to be the best comic book origin story ever filmed because it was an origin for a character I was unfamiliar with. To continue the story with different characters, different settings...it's an affront to what came before & a slap in the face to fans. Shymalan is desperate to return to critical acclaim more than populist acclaim but this is nothing but diluting great ideas into some sort of tepid corn syrup to drip-drop onto a direct-to-DVD release.
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...are ironically the things most people agreed were his strong points. It was his writing which usually derailed his movies, especially those following Unbreakable. Too bad his ego got in the way of filming other people's material. It may be too late to try -- or maybe not, since studios seem to be continuing to fund his movies, despite the fact that people snicker at the sight of his name on trailers nowadays.
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Is that so hard? <p> I don't no canibalising it into other projects bullshit. <p> I just want to see the story of David Dunn and Mr. Glass continued. <p> FFS
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I have long espoused the view that all sequels with the number 2 in the title need to be called Electric Boogaloo. Great name, too. All the internet attention has caused Netflix to add it to their streaming service!
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Just wait for the cunt to announce "The Seventh Sense". <p> Or maybe "The Fifth Sense". The thrilless thriller about Bruce Willis, mild kid therapist, and his kid patient who keeps seeing living people.
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As in no Unbreakable 2 but a new stand-alone movie that will hardly set the box-office alight, directed by an unknown? Save the great idea and give us a decent sequel to "Unbreakable" - a film that was CRYING OUT for one at the end!
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Umm, because he pretty clearly says he took the IDEA he had for Unbreakable 2. It's pretty obvious why he's not calling it that. It's not a sequel. He took the idea for the sequel and gave it to another director to turn into a different movie. Is it really that hard to understand?
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Sept. 3, 2010, 6:35 a.m. CST
Shymalan rocks! Take him any day over the other crap out there.
by david_boreanez_cunt_hairz
POO POO!!!
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Let's see. He made two decent movies -- Sixth Sense and Unbreakable -- and then a about a halfa dozen AWFUL movies that not only were critically panned, but B O M B E D. That Last Airbender crap DEFINITELY cost more money than Scott Failgram and BOBOMBED just as badly. And he STILL gets work? Who is he blackmailing / blowing? Insane.
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Bring back David Dunn and Mr. Glass or a new villan entirely. Stop dancing around the fucking thing. Jesus.
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Seriously, why a series of movies? Produce a show, MNS. Your ideas would work better in short form, you could direct once in a while, write once in a while, and your name just may still have enough clout to draw an audience, which all the recent anthologies have failed to do.
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Sept. 3, 2010, 7:12 a.m. CST
No, no. A MOVIE directed by someone other than Shyamalan is grea
by ricarleite2
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FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT, Harry! Add a limit to the subject texbox? A 5 year old can do it!
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I don't get it. If he's just using the villain, how is it at all Unbreakable 2? Answer: It's not.
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Every time the Devil trailer is played in theaters and his name pops on the screen... people grown. The man is box office poison and he can package it any way he wants, people no longer fall for his schtick.
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i've been to three different movies with the trailer, and as soon as his name pops up, people DO groan and laugh. i've never seen anything like it, other than when the 'vampires suck' trailer popped up. (yet people went to see that). i'm sure it's because of how bad his movies have gotten, but also it's the way he presents his name into a project like it adds class and prestige to it. it's arrogant. he's a great visual director, and if he likes 'twists' and the macabre and mysterious, he should get a bunch of good writers and just helm a modern day twilight zone type TV series. he's done with films. go smaller, do TV.
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His name pops up. Which to me shows what a solid trailer is, and how his ego is going to let it ruin the movie. If his name wasn't on that trailer, that would be one of the more anticipated movies coming out right now. But, he just couldn't put it out there without letting people know he had a hand in it (and most people aren't too industry savvy, so they think he directed it when it says "from the mind of" which is an even bigger mistake). If he were a sane, practical man he'd reaize at this point his name is hurting things he attaches it to, and should get over himself (fat chance, I know). But DEVIL will have a significantly lower opening weekend that it would have had he not plastered his name on the trailer, i guarantee it. It's funny to me that he doesn't get how bad his rep has gotten. Does he just not care? Every theater I've been in its the same thing, people are imediately drawn into the devil trailer, things are tense, they show his name, everyone laughs and groans, and they manage to mostly getback into it by the end. Its actually impressive how destructive his name is.
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You people are so literal and critical its fucking retarded. It's not hard to figure out what he means by it being what unbreakable 2 would have kind of been like without it actually being unbreakable 2, starring bruce willis, or featuring mister glass if youre not being an overcritical douche about it. "Sooo its unbreakable...but its not? thats retarded fuck him its not unbreakable dont call it that" he didnt call it that, he said he took ideas he had for unbreakable 2 and reworked them into their own movie. There is nothing hard to understand about that if you use your brain and stop acting like children.
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No seriously, the guy does have some good ideas. So why are his films so annoying and bad?
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not just the teenage girls sitting in the back of the theater with their boyfriends.
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I was in a theatre and witnessed the same thing except also someone actually shouted "Fuck that dothead" when his name came up.
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Sept. 3, 2010, 8:10 a.m. CST
It was followed by people around me...
by HarryKnowlesNonExistentInceptionReview
...murmuring, "Well, scatch that one off my list."
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No he literally says ""I'll just say it: the third 'Night Chronicles' movie is what would have been the ['Unbreakable'] sequel" ... Then goes on to explain he took the idea for the villain and spun it off, which is not the same as a spiritual sequel. At the very least you gotta acknowledge it's somewhat vague or contradictory and open to interpretation.
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an hour longer. That's what stops it from being a classic in my opinion. It was the perfect movie up until the end (at which point it was just rolling). All setup, not enough payoff. A great sequel would have justified that. I think that's why so many people wanted a sequel.
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an hour longer. That's what stops it from being a classic in my opinion. It was the perfect movie up until the end (at which point it was just rolling). All setup, not enough payoff. A great sequel would have justified that. I think that's why so many people wanted a sequel.
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an hour longer. That's what stops it from being a classic in my opinion. It was the perfect movie up until the end (at which point it was just rolling). All setup, not enough payoff. A great sequel would have justified that. I think that's why so many people wanted a sequel.
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Triple post? I don't even know how that happened...
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Triple post? I don't even know how that happened...
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He cannibalized and pawned off a film concept that would actually make a good sequel, one that even his detractors might want to see? <br> <br> Typically bad move by this guy.
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Sept. 3, 2010, 9:02 a.m. CST
Actually, The Last Airbender has made money. Stateside,
by Coughlins Laws
it's made less than it cost to make. But overall grosses from overseas puts the movie over $250 million, $100 million more than it cost to make. It's not a bomb like Scott Pilgrim is...
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It's about a guy who works at a Corelle factory, mixing the ingredients together in the vats before they get made into those dinner plates and bowls.<p> After years of diligently doing his job, he is laid off due to Obama's awful economic policies. He is forced to find work wherever he can. One day, as he is on a construction site working high up in a building, he slips and falls 18 floors to the ground. Everyone thinks he must be dead.<p> Amazingly, he is unharmed. Seeing this as a sign from God, he becomes a preacher in a Pentacostal church in the South.<p> One Sunday, as he is gathering rattlesnakes together for his church service, one bites him on the arm. Strangely, the fangs don't penetrate his skin. In fact, the fangs break off in the snake's mouth. The congregation witnesses this amazing sight and calls it a miracle. Since they are Pentacostal, it comes out as, "Gabblegabbleblechtapoopommerytwafta."<p> Becoming somewhat of a local celebrity, he decides to run for office and is chosen to be Sarah Palin's Veep running-mate. That's when he finds out how thick his skin really is...<p>
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Sept. 3, 2010, 9:08 a.m. CST
"Typically bad move by this guy" This coming from a guy
by Snake Foreskin
who decided to name himself "Mullah Omar"? Irony, thy name is... well, "Mullah Omar", I suppose.
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Someone saying "Shamalamadingdong". You know it's coming, I know it's coming.</p><p>We all know the guy has a great imagination but more and more he seems to really miss the mark translating it to the screen so I am ALL FOR this arrangement. Could be the best of both worlds. In fact he should have started it with that dumb-assed mermaid movie.
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There's your sequel title right there.
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Sept. 3, 2010, 9:17 a.m. CST
I loved Unbreakable, but no Night and no Willis
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
means no way.
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Sept. 3, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST
And I have had the same trailer experience for DEVIL myself
by Fuzzyjefe
Quiet, people seem to be interested...his name comes up....psssssssssh. The tension deflates into titters and groans.
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screened before Inception, the entire audience groaned when it said, "From the mind of M. Night Shyamalan." I think even non-movie geeks have given up on this guy. What a shame.
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Over the years it's become obvious why Lucas only made a couple good movies. He really wasn't the one doing the heavy lifting. And when his ego got too big and he either fired or divorced all the smart ones around him his films suffered greatly. So what's the story with MNS? Because it looks kinda like the same thing. Two incredible movies followed by a lot of not so incredible ones. Is it something like he has a smart brother that's no longer working with him or what? Anyone know what happened.
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Seriously, I keep giving the guy another chance, but I can't think of anything since Unbreakable that I didn't think was awful. For the most part, decently crafted movies, but with scant story (or story so stupid it hurts).
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Even James Cameron needs to learn this. I liked Avatar and all, but my god does it have some terrible dialogue. Like other have mentioned, I think this is ego. Directors like to feel as if they have complete control over their films, even if it means writing a mediocre script.
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These guys are basically a one-hot wonder band who somehow keeps getting more records produced. No one really likes them, but these guys stick around like cockroaches skittering across the kitchen floor after a night of fogging.
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Sept. 3, 2010, 9:48 a.m. CST
I went to the midnight showing of Machete last night and..
by Clabog592
it was packed with a very vocal group. They played a trailer for Devil and when M. Night's name appeared on screen, everyone in the theater booed. It was hilarious.
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that is all.
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Sounds perfect.
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Too bad they aren't brave enough or smart enough to just make a sequel.
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..because they've read online that other people boo it. Fucking sheep.
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What a good film. The scene where Robyn asks Bruce if he cheated on her is so well done.
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Just thought I'd add to the pile-on.
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OF ALL TIME !!!!! And Pixars THE INCREDIBLES is a close 2nd.
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Thank you for pointing out that "devil" is an elevator thriller, because we all know how those elevator thrillers captivate and enthrall. The elevator, moving you up and down and all around, and thrilling you like never before. I wonder if that's how it was pitched? "I have an idea for a supernatural elevator thriller." Hell, I guess it's better than a board game movie.
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starring rihanna and the guy who ruined gambit.
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A movie that has none of the characters or elements from a previous movie and is comprised solely from an unused idea that had been in an early draft of said previous movie is not a sequel in any way, shape, or form.
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"for those who love “Unbreakable” but hate everything Shyamalan has directed since." <p> Unbreakable is his only truly great film. Signs I like an awful lot, although I can understand why some people hate it. <p> The Village was half a good movie. <p> Everything after that has been fucking awful. What the hell happened to the guy?
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"When cinema audiences laugh at your name during a trailer, you know your career is over!" <p> It's true. I've seen the "Devil" trailer at the cinema three times in recent weeks. In all three instances there has been some combination of laughter and groaning. <p> Not a good sign.
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I forgot how brilliant it was and how much promise M.Night showed as a film-maker back then.<P>It doesn't need a sequel though. Some shit just needs left alone.
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The 'Devil in the elevator' movie will tank. Why? His name is on the commercials.
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I was excited there for a moment. Love Unbreakable, apart from the rushed ending. But this isn't a sequel, just something that uses a villain idea. So wtf are you talking about? No David Dunn means no sequel.
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Sept. 3, 2010, 11:16 a.m. CST
M. NIght's next movie to be called called "Unwatchable"
by Morte_Bea_Arthur
but only by the viewers
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His power... well, you know.
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The movie will have nothing to do with Unbreakable. It's an idea that morphed from an idea for an Unbreakable sequel into its own original movie. <br><br> And M. Night retains the sequel rights to all of his movies. He's quite vocal about that lately. I'm sure if he wanted to do a sequel for Unbreakable with Disney, he fucking could.
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What a tweest!
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A movie that had Bruce Willis asking his ex-wife if he ever got sick.
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The first two movies in the Night Chronicles ....I mean, really be honest with yourself, drop all M. Night related cynicism for a second....are really cool ideas that I would be EXTREMELY excited about if it weren't for the fact that Shyamalamadingdong's name is attached to them.
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...everything.
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TDK stuck its landing better at the end, even with Gordon repeating the rather obvious theme of the movie after Batman articulates it. But UNBREAKABLE is a lot tighter, a lot more compelling from a character point of view (excluding The Joker, of course), and directed with more grace. Even if it relies on a typical Night twist, it's a more subdued twist, and the script isn't as rife with plot holes or expediencies as TDK is (Gordon's faked death; how The Joker anticipates every little detail that will unfold, etc.) Still like TDK a lot, but UNBREAKABLE is a few notches higher.
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The only thing that was going to redeem him in my eyes was to finally make the sequel to Unbreakable with Bruce Willis.<br><br> Now he's bastardizing that possibility by giving the story to another director and he's not even going to use Willis?
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Sept. 3, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST
I recall some people laughing at Cameron's Avatar teaser trailer
by Johnno
And look how that turned out. I'm just sayin...
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Sept. 3, 2010, 12:07 p.m. CST
ghosts, superheroes, aliens... then shit, shit and more shit
by antonphd
mks used up what he had too soon
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...and hanging on for dear life is more effective than every action scene in TDK put together.<P> I didn't dislike TDK...I thought it was very impressive.
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..talking about the DOTD Remake? just what de fugg you are up to? (or on?)
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So, he's made a couple clunkers. SO has Spielberg.
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I just wish M. Night had made Signs, The Happening, or Lady in the Water before making Unbreakable. That being his follow-up to The Sixth Sense, I think it plays a big role in him being perceived as someone who takes himself too seriously. Plus, a lighter movie after The Sixth Sense might not have added so much to the burden of expectations.
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I just wish M. Night had made Signs, The Happening, or Lady in the Water before making Unbreakable. That being his follow-up to The Sixth Sense, I think it plays a big role in him being perceived as someone who takes himself too seriously. Plus, a lighter movie after The Sixth Sense might not have added so much to the burden of expectations.
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Unbreakable was a good movie, great even. But come on.
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I read another post by CHOPPAH recently. The title was really good. But I had forgotten how much the content descends into the same old tired shtick by the end...rather predictable extended exhortations with clunky editing. I guess that marked the moment where CHOPPAH's destiny lay in AICN posts that were more about a stale gimmick than actual meaningful content, for much of the next decade. I was so hopeful when his "UNBREAKABLE" comment came out that it heralded the return of CHOPPAH as a genuinely thoughtful guy. But it was a false dawn for him.
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...of the characters.<P> I have a theory that people who really love it are superimposing all of their previously existing love for Batman and the other characters on the undeniably ambitious and impressive framework the movie sets up...but there isn't really anything in the movie itself to make you care who lives or dies.<P> I also suspect batman fans are flattered that someone took the character so seriously...that's understandable.
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That's a great scene. I also like the scene where he's amongst the crowd and discovers his gift as he's brushing up against people.
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Still trying to figure out why after the Joker throws Maggie Gyllenhaal off the roof and Batman has rescued her he doesn't then go back for the Joker and his men. I mean, they've got to leave the very building that Batman is now outside at the base of. Shouldn't he just wait at the entrance to the building for them when they leave? Shit, he made it to the bottom faster than they would by going out the window. Why does he just seem to forget that they're still up there? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
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Maybe they used those zip lines to go from building to building. Like at the beginning with the bank heist.
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Seriously, as much as I loved Unbreakable, I really dont think a sequel is needed. Sure, its obvious that there is more to the story, but I quite enjoy it as an origin story and nothing more.
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Ditch your shtick or you'll soon become a AICN laughingstock. Nothing worse, just ask Jett...
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I always liked the scene at the train station where he first tried to consciously use his "gift". Makes you wonder how many creeps and bad guys you really pass by on a daily basis.
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Done and done.
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I would love to see a proper sequel with the original cast. I went in to Unbreakable cold and I was pleasantly surprised. One of the best comic book origin movies ever. I'd put it in my top 10 super-hero movies ever - but not above TDK.
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I'm glad he's going this route rather than a direct sequel. "Unbreakable 2" would never live up to the hype as it has been too long. We Geeks ruin everything...
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i dont care whose name is attached...unless its leo dicrapio or channing taum or ludacris
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early on that the next sequel would be called Breakable and the third one would be called broken. Shyamalan said in the interview on the DVD that the Unbreakable series were basically a three act movie broken up into three movies. Part one act one was where the superhero gains his powers. Part two act two would be where he battles the main villains henchmen. And part three act three is where he battles the main villain himself. Did Shyamalan forget this because I thought that was a lovely progression? I used to be a die hard Shyamalan fan. He seemed to be doing everything right. He even got an oscar nod. Then that damned fake documentary came out and f---ed up everything he's done since! It's like it messed with his mind or something!
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If you can only lable the movie as good or bad, no middle ground, no explanations, what would it look like? The Sixth Sense - good Unbreakbable - good Signs - good The Village - good (I will argue all day on this one) Lady in the Water - bad The Happening - bad The Last Airbender - bad What would your good/bad list look like?
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Either way "Unbreakable" doesn´t need a sequel, wouldn´t work. It´s a one time comicbook hommage that in a sequel would either be boring to be similar, or just another superhero flick to distinguish itself from the first.
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Around the girlfriend he was trying to be old normal self but barely hanging on. It was shades of Bruce Banner.<br> <br> But when seeking revenge, he was in Punisher mood. No death was too grisly for him to deliver to his enemies. <bt> <br> Agree action scenes at the end were over the top CHOPPAH but it didn't bother me that much.
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Sept. 3, 2010, 2:28 p.m. CST
Although I VERY much like Unbreakable...let's not get nuts here.
by RETURN_of_FETT
It absolutely has problems.</p><p>1)How in the FUCK can you possibly not know that you've never been sick? Do you know what a soer throat feels like? Yes or no. Do you know what coughing feels like? Yes or no. I mean, that whole premise is as retarded as aliens invading a world comrised 78% of a substance that rains down everywhere and KILLS YOU , then not even bothering to WEAR FUCKING CLOTHES!</p><p>2)That fuckin' KID! Oh GOD did I weant to drag that little pussy out back and swat the SHIT out of him! "Why do you keep saaaaayiiiiing thaaaat?" "Why do you keep CRYING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH!?"</p><p>3) I just don't follow the logic that "If I have a disease that makes my bones fragile, it stands to reason that Superman is real!". Yeaaaah....not so much.</p><p>4) It's WAY too sleepy. Endless shots of Bruce staring quietly with a puzzled look on his face. It just takes too long for things to happen in general.</p><p>5) It doesn't have a very good resolution. I mean, it WORKS, but only just. shyamaln himself says it's a movie that is 75% act 1, and it certainly is. I would have enjoyed it a lot better if the slowness of the first 2/3 was sped up and we got more time spent on a proper ending.</p><p>But don't get me wrong it's a great film.
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You been CHOPPED.<BR><BR>Props, Somerichs.
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TDK--warts and all--is a superior film.<BR><BR>I know it's not fashionable to mention it, but Ledger gives the performance of a lifetime. It's not only the best, most electrifying Joker ever filmed (by FAR), it's one of the best, most electrifying performances ever filmed period. Ledger's Joker makes Day-Lewis' Butcher looks like a budding daisy.<BR><BR>TDK was otherwise an EXCELLENT film, but Ledger's Joker was CLASSIC.<BR><BR>UNBREAKABLE was an excellent film too. But there was no one element that made for a true classic imo.<BR><BR>My two cents.
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With this admission, M. Night has just opened himself up to an "intellectual property" lawsuit, hence, the producers of Unbreakable can claim ownership of the script, and characters therein, from M. Night's upcoming Chronicles film.
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Not one wasted line of dialouge. Every line is relevant to the endgame. Solid film.
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a complete and utter tool
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and Manoj Shamalangadingdong is an unsufferable cunt.
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a complete and utter tool
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with Star Wars
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Seriously. How many free passes can he get?
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Im into it. still would much rather have that unbreakable sequel
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was crap the first time around... what would the second film be about? Dunn torturing Price by throwing apples at his body... breaking his glass-like limbs? Or, maybe Dunn bitch slapping Price and breaking his neck?
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Dunn either saves the planet from killer plants... aliens who are afraid of water... or rescues a small group of village idiots near a mall.
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I don't care how many entrances into and out of the building there were or whether or not the Joker and his crew used zip lines. Why didn't Batman go back and try to get the Joker after Maggie Gyllenhaal was safely on the ground? Hell, if they weren't still at the party when he got back to the roof (it takes a grand total of 15 seconds to catch a falling person) he could have asked one of the hundreds of witnesses which way they went. I understand the Joker and his crew needed to get away to advance the plot, but that's just sloppy writing.
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Mr. Glass went to prison. Pay attention. It's not as if he was the only bad guy in the world for Security Man to go after.
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It was cherry picked and turned into the mess known as Heroe's and now the countless other tv shows coming out this fall with real life super people that are flawed or what ever. Maybe this Night Chronicle's deal won't be so bad.The first one looks to be a good thriller.
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pass.
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Batman went back and the Joker was gone. Joker had a plan in case the Batman showed up. They ended up commandeering Wayne's helicopter (as explained earlier).<br><br> Since this scene didn't really add anything to the movie it was cut.
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They helped Joker sneak in an out of the penthouse.
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As much as his recent films have been consumed by his ego, both The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable I have a lot of love for. Especially Unbreakable, and the ending for me was spot on perfect. I realize some people fell in love with a different movie up until the last 6 minutes when they realized another was being made... but for me the whole thing worked flawlessly.<p><p> Signs I can deal with while being deeply flawed.<p><p> Every other movie past that, I haven't even bothered to watch as its clear he's been feeding his ego way, WAAAAY too much. Whatever magic he had in the early part of his career is long gone... replaced by a hack who can't get over those years and back to making quality films.
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I think it's utterly implausible that it would take the guy that long to figure out he has super powers. In retrospect, it's very M Night-esque ... There's a superficial sheen of thoughtfulness but it's sort of stupid, ultimately.
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Ridiculous it wound up being entertaining, every other M Night movie has been a coat-hanger abortion.
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I've never seen a filmmaker do that before. he lured us in with an awesome trailer which said "Doesn't this look like a cool movie?" Then halfway through the film it says "WELL FUUUUCK YOOOOOOU! It's just a stupid Halloween costume you gullible douchebags! HA HA HA HA!". He will NEVER be forgiven for that.
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regarding Unbreakable...it's nice to know someone agrees with me about the problem with the pace of this film (I think this is an overall problem for M Night flicks in general) I totally get what you are saying about The Village. I just was ammused with how pissed it made people because I am a bastard like that.
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M.Knight just pissed away his last chance for redemption. In my eyes, at least. <P> I agree that UNBREAKABLE was better that TDK, indeed that it's in the top ten, maybe the top five superhero movies ever made.<P> And now he's just going to pillage his sequel ideas and farm them out? <P> Wotta maroon.
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I've seen the trailer to Devil twice and everytime his name appears the theater groans. I've never seen that.
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best
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That's because he's become the go-to hate-on guy. Kinda like Brett Ratner on this site.
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groaned at the end of The Village how it made me laugh really hard. I think the "end of the movie twist" is so gimmicky, and that guy is a big Douche Nozzle, but I admit the entire audience realizing they'd been duped at the exact same moment sort of fed my soul a little bit.
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groaned at the end of The Village how it made me laugh really hard. I think the "end of the movie twist" is so gimmicky, and that guy is a big Douche Nozzle, but I admit the entire audience realizing they'd been duped at the exact same moment sort of fed my soul a little bit.
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The monster costume? When you found out that was a costume you suddenly hated the film? I guess if I were 12 seeing a monster movie and it turned out to be a cool movie about people creating their own world I'd be pissed too. And I'll take lady in the water over any potter film- except the one where something actually happened. I think that was the wizard battle one. I'll take narfs and that crazy one muscle warrior over movie after movie of ridiculouso!!!
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He just assumed the people were living in a sort of Amish-esque community in the present day the whole time. Which, in essence, was exactly what they were doing. M. Knight couldn't pull one over on ol' Dad.
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I caught on to what was going on in THE VILLAGE waaaaay before I was 'supposed' to. Which made the rest of the movie a pretty excruciating experience.
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You figured out the end of a movie while you we're watching it? BRAVO! No one has ever done that.
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I wasn't bragging, you sub-mental, I was just laying down some M.Night hate like everyone else. Make sure your mommy puts the night light on when she tucks you in, to keep the scary monsters under your bed away, you ridiculous little twerp.
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OMG YOU paid money to see The Village? And you say I have terrible taste in movies?! LOL!!!!
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Is someone to listen as he outlines his story, then when he gets to the "twist," say "excuse me" and kick MNS savagely in the balls with steel toed boots. Give MNS a chance to continue. If he still begins to explain a twist of some sort no warning is necessary, boots (yes, it's plural for a reason), nuts and so forth. Whilst he's being wheeled off to a hospital, bring in an actual writer to finish the script. Sadly, I fear this will actually take more than 3 script attempts to get the message through to MNS. Nonetheless, we must "swing away" if we're to survive.
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EVERYTHING he's done after the first 3/5ths of Signs has sucked aged green donkey wang.
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I knew it. I'm arguing with a thirteen year old. Adios Satipo.
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Be says Sapito in the movie, bonehead.
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Look, man, we both know that in the script and novelization, the name is different. But you just gotta be the contrarian. <P> And I never said I paid to see THE VILLAGE, either. <P>I SAID GOOD NIGHT SIR!
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AND IT STILL SUCKED! AHHH!!
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You mean like that Simpsons episode where Homer sells his soul to the devil Ned Flanders and has to defend himself before the Jury Of The Damned? Man...can Night sink any lower? Probably.
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But this to be one of the Dumbest invasion movies of all time, Aliens come to take over a planet cover in 3/4 of the substance that kills them, one gets trapped in a pantry, they have a hard time capturing a family of four in a basement. They dont seem to do well against people with Baseball bats. I tell you in the real world you replace the Military's weapons with SuperSoakers and billy clubs and call it a fucking day.
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So it's just going to be a movie about a super villain? So what does it have to do with Unbreakable? I actually don't hate M. Night as many do here. He just went crazy which is understandable haha. He just doesn't understand his audiences. That is why I love the idea of him making up movie ideas that are then made by other film makers. Great idea. Look at Airbender, the movie looked great but he made one huge fucking flaw... It wasn't fun! The lead in Airbender is suppose to be upbeat and funny and learns that the world is more violent then what he first believes. Night did not understand this and it just made the movie bleak and dull. Now the question why he keeps making movies? Well because most of you are wrong about "Bombs". That happens a lot here. Many of you just don't understand money and the business. You use it as proof to make points but you look stupid. Sixth Sense was an epic hit. Unbreakable was not a bomb it made money and was a hit with critics. Signs was another epic hit. The Village was not a bomb! Sorry it didn't cost a lot to make and it made truck loads of money. It just didn't meet expectations. I remember going into the the theater to see it and people were preparing to scream their brains out... Well the movie wasn't scary at all. So it was a let down but not a bomb it made lots of money. Lady in the Water was a "bomb" did not make a lot of money and it was just horribly made. Then the Happening came out. Another let down but not a bomb. It actually made money. Most of you don't understand how much Red box/netflic/dvd sales help movies avoid bomb status(Kick Ass is a good example). Airbender another let down and the movie sucked but 3D and kids helped push that movie. So MNight still has cred because he makes money for studios. It's just the truth. Haters on Pilgrim(Most of you didn't see the movie which sucks for you) you look how it stands now... Just wait till it comes out on DVD. Shit heads here will claim it failed but it will become a cult hit and with rentals/downloads and DVD purchase the movie will be in the green. Sorry to burst your bubble haters but that's how it's going to be.
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Signs, Lady in the Water, The Happening, and The Last Airbender were all absent of a twist ending. And yet M. Night will always be criticized for putting "gimmicky twist endings" in his movies. <br><br> I also find it interesting that his work is generally well-received overseas. Could be that America really is just a nation of uncultured fucktards?
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Signs, Lady in the Water, The Happening, and The Last Airbender were all absent of a twist ending. And yet M. Night will always be criticized for putting "gimmicky twist endings" in his movies. <br><br> I also find it interesting that his work is generally well-received overseas. Could be that America really is just a nation of uncultured fucktards?
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A. in signs water killed the aliens B, He (M night) is some type profit and the Lady is his Muse or something retarded like that. C. the last Airbender is not actual a form of Torture used on Prisoners of war. and not an actual summer blockbuster movie.
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It was my favorite one, because it actually had aliens in it, and they didn't resort to cheap "Faith" based endings like so many sci fi movies do.
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Like I'm supposed to believe a class 2 Alien Race is unable to break through a wooden door.
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...say "why would water hating aliens invade a planet of 70% water" or "why can't an alien knock down a door" I'm going to murder somebody. The movie wasn't even about an alien invasion, it was about a family dealing with loss and fear and a man learning to believe in something again. P.S. I have not seen a better movie in a theater since "Signs" came out. It's a masterpiece.
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...it's plot movement. It's what would be considered the "Seizing the Sword" moment in the hero's journey. Just because it happens in the last five minutes doesn't make it a twist.
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The aliens were just a means to get Mel Gibson into that basement so he can confront his crisis of faith. I'm not as big of a fan of Signs as I once one because of how theistic it comes across. But people who decry the science fiction aspect of the movie are completely missing the point. It's a drama with the facade of an alien invasion flick. I guess I can understand people's frustration in being conned into seeing a movie they weren't expecting. Maybe M. Night isn't the best showman, but I don't think it makes him a bad filmmaker.
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That's what I liked about it.
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If so, look up Manoj Nelliyattu Shyamalan and drive your car through his front door.
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Seriously, having Bruce Willis puss out and call the cops instead of kicking Jackson's ass was fucking STUPID! The text ending was the ultimate insult. Its like they ran out of time and had no ending so instead be get Willis saying "I'm going to tell on you" and then the text appears! Fucking STUPID!!!
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Great storytelling, pacing, and vibe.
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Water-intolerant aliens would invade a planet that's 75 per cent water for the same reasons we'd invade a planet that has three-quarters of its surface covered in sulphuric acid oceans: There's something on the land that they need and can find in abundance, so it's worth the risk. So long as they stay away from the water - which the aliens are said to be doing at one point in the movie - they should be able to get on with their plans (whatever they are). Just like us getting on with our plans while avoiding those sulphuric acid oceans. <br> <br> The "stupidity" in the alien invasion isn't that they'd invade a planet covered in water, it's the fact that they didn't wear protective breathing apparatus for the moisture in the air and that the moisture in the air didn't seem to have an effect on them in the first place. I wouldn't say either of those things were stupidity per se (hence the quotemarks), but more a convention of science-fiction. Don't we usually allow this sort of thing a bit of wriggle room? <br> <br> As for aliens trapped in pantries - I'm not sure you can equate a life-form's technological advancement with its physical strength. Maybe those little potato-headed guys in 'Close Encounters' could physically smash their way through a locked door because they're far more advanced than Mankind?
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Shyamalan is broke.
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Granted I've never rewatched the movie since I asaw it in the theater, but... does anything even happen in that film? I remember waiting and waiting and waiting for something cool to happen. <BR> And then Bruce Willis falls into a swimming pool, or something like that. <BR> And then it was over. <BR><BR> I didn't mind Signs or even that 1700's secret town movie ( except for the end I guess... which wouldn't have been so bad if it had a purpose )
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That its about faith, not aliens. A mans struggle with his belief in god...again, not aliens. The aliens are thematic window dressing the same way pressing the button for a whole season on lost was window dressing for character development and story. people who think the movie is a scifi story about an alien invasion are the same people who think lost was about the mythology. its about the people and what they went throgh. its about their faith, in something greater and in one another. its nice to see a few people on here get that. ive gotten really tired of any time signs is mentioned people go "that alien invasion movie? werent they allergic to water or something. retarded." no. you're retarded. you missed the whole point.
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Sept. 4, 2010, 9:18 a.m. CST
The thing about M. Night isn't just that his movies are bad.
by rbatty024
But that ever since his first bad film (The Village) his films have become progressively worse. I haven't seen the Last Airbender, but the de-evolution that accompanies The Village, Lady in the Water and The Happening is breathtakingly awful. How does that happen?
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makes people totally oblivious to massive plot holes. And btw, I love that movie and Nolan as a filmmaker... in many ways, I think he and Shyamalan are similar in that they are (in Night's case, WERE) trying to return genre to a place it held in the 70's. TDK and Unbreakable having similar goals of elevating the super hero genre just as Godfather or The Exorcist elevated their respective genres. But it's true, Nolan is not really good at making you care about his characters... he just can't seem to portray aspects of human frailty that one can relate to. The one moment of that that I really saw (besides some of the stuff in Following) and FELT something was when DiCaprio says to his dream projection of Mal that she could never contain all the complexities of his actual wife. That kind of reminded me a little of the scene in Last Tango when Brando is with his dead wife... except the scene with Brando is Brando, even though I think Leo has gotten much better as an actor and even lost enough of that boyish look to be a lot more believable in the roles he chooses.
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is that he let too much of the tension hang on the audience finding out the twist, not on the GIRL finding out the twist. I actually thought it was a brilliantly acted and amazingly shot (Deakins... again) movie that let a lot of its air out in TRYING to be Night's ego's idea of what a Night movie should be, rather than listening to the story and letting it be what it was. Actually, I think he should have waited five years for that movie and it could have completely been about getting away from technology and its effects on society (put it even further in the future, like Blade Runner's society on the outside, an 18th century village on the inside) and trying to lead a simple life... could have been a masterpiece.
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OMFG, where do I start. First of all. Any being capable of interstellar travel wouldn't be seen drunkenly hobbling down a street while growling like a prehistoric primate. That's how fucking stupid signs was.
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behind Unbreakable in my opinion. He's like Francis Ford Coppola in that he makes movies that "are what they area about." The form suits the content. M. Night made a movie that's about deception, WHILE deceiving his audience. The Village not only contemplates the ethics of withholding information to preserve innocence and safety, but it's brilliance is in that is contemplates both sides of the equation. Re-watch it as a post-9/11 allegory for America.
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As far as how the Joker got away, it is in the script and appears to have been shot. In the script on page 56, Rachel and Batman fall and crash into the taxi, it cuts to Joker getting away in a car, and then cuts back to Rachel and Batman with their dialogue as seen in the film. If they had left it in the question might have been asked, how can the Joker be already driving away right after Batman and Rachel had fallen? The scene is also very short. I think what would have been good is simply reordering the scenes. You keep the dialogue between Batman and Rachel as it is right after their fall and then have the scene of the Joker, that way there is no problem concerning the amount of time passing and we get to see how he got away. Maybe it was left out because of pacing. Also with Joker saying that he would get to Dent(Driver: What do we do about Dent? Joker: I'm a man of my word) maybe Nolan felt it would have been too much foreshadowing. He already had Harvey's line about living long enough to see yourself become the villain, if he had this from the Joker it might have been too much. For all we know there were technical problems or the scene as filmed just didn't work. THE SCRIPT: http://tinyurl.com/22rqq4v IMAGE OF THE SCENE (I ASSUME): http://tinyurl.com/2gx7cwh
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" Bruce Willis crying, I'm gonna tell on you" I've watched Unbreakable a bunch of times. Loved it, never envisioned the ending that way. For some reason that made me laugh really hard. You talkbackers, always a gem in here some where.
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Sept. 4, 2010, 3:40 p.m. CST
Night really thing his "Cronicles" will make it to the Thrid one
by Crosshair386
Devil isn't even out yet but Night thinks it will be successful enough to get not just one but two other films? Dude don't count your chickens before they hack...or is it don't count your eggs before you make an omelette? Doesn't matter Shamalamadingdong ain't listening.
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Plus, each film he does has become more and more dull.
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And M Night is a 1/2-Trick Pony. And that pony died a long time ago.
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...has entirely bypassed "annoying and repetitive" and passed into "necessary for the character." We now expect this behavior of him. It shows slavish commitment to holding character, and honestly it's a bit comforting. The gold standard is still "Damn You Michael Bay" guy (I forget the exact Roman numeral), a first ballot talkback hall of famer if there ever was one. Now THAT was commitment.
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The power of Unbreakable was in that dance of wondering which universe you are in, feeling the joy of the empowerment fantasy, while the consequences of what you wish for sneak up on you. The film ends where it does because we can instantly imagine every story and spinoff that follows. An actual sequel feels redundant.
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Must admit Devil does look rather good, although I think there should only be a proper sequel to Unbreakable and only if Willis is back on board. Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmGMQbzfHAo
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The Last Airbender was his last big shot to show studios he can deliver, and the flick underperformed and received absolutely withering reviews. It may break even with overseas and DVD, but I'm sure studios aren't in the business of breaking even. This wasn't some quirky indie flick; it was a family centered action picture adapted from an animated show. It was intended for huge box office numbers. Getting anything greenlit now for Shyamalan is probably going to be a struggle. <p> Quite a comedown for a dude who could get any script in Hollywood made post The Sixth Sense.
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Unbreakable,and Signs. A sequel to the Sixth Sense would be kinf of dumb unless it was just a dark movie about people who see spirits. Kind of like Ghost but darker and no romantic shit. I think the guy showed promise early on, I liked the first half of the Village for what it was but Lady in the Water was horrendus,and The Happening took a good premise and a few actors that I like and turned it into a shitfest the likes of which I've never seen.I skipped Airbender and unless the reviews of Devil are good I may never watch his work again.
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...he refused and continues to refuse to sell the sequel rights.
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...he refused and continues to refuse to sell the sequel rights.
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-- would make or see. He's a dark person with a funny accent and my American intuition says that can only mean one thing -- terrorist! And his movies are his bombs.
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Bo = Angel, Aliens = Demons, Water = Consecrated.
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... It's in crappy 3D!
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