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Wanted more AICN Readers Like This One!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... with a feature I'll probably be doing a lot over at FAMOUS MONSTERS, but well - this is just timely and feel good kind of news about one of our own. A fellow reader of AICN. She wrote me a letter on Facebook (an evil place that won't let me have more than 5,000 friends. When I consider everyone here a friend, even when y'all get angry at me for being a bit of bonehead. And yeah - sometimes when a friend is being a DICK - you gotta ban em.) Ok - I know, enormous aside there, but FACEBOOK brings things out of me. Not always good.
But this reader lived somewhere where SCOTT PILGRIM wasn't playing - and she got pissed about it. She went on her social network and put a group together that got the film into a theater there in Hastings, England. Now folks are going to see it and fall in love with it the proper way.
Why post this? Well, maybe to motivate some of y'all to live up to your organizational abilities and fandom to make this that long turn around. Every now and again in Movie Lover history - a movie ROCKY HORRORs out. It comes out in a market... the movie didn't open strong, the weeks later they drizzled... but then a few motivated individuals campaigned theaters. For one screen, at midnight... FOREVER. And it became a thing. A deal. One of those deals.
Now, I wouldn't be surprised if people started acting the movie out on stage in front of it. If cover bands started performing in the theater with it. And in a few places... Scott Pilgrim would always play. On film. Til it got scratchy and beat up, not through a digital post process, but because... it was loved to death.
I know I'm probably crazy, but I love SCOTT PILGRIM like that. I've seen it 5 times now and I actually MISS THE MOVIE. I mean, don't get me wrong, I've no shortage of movie distractions that keep me away from SCOTT PILGRIM, but I enjoy seeing this movie in a theater... the last time it was 4:40 in the afternoon and there where about 16 of us. I didn't know them - but we were all vocally in love with the film. To the audience that loves it, they love it. And they love it the way we really love things. With goofy energy and dreamy star dazzled eyes. When every kiss of the film feels like the most exciting awesome thing ever so it kisses you again and when its over... you're pulse is racing, you've got a smile and everything kicks ass. That's the purpose and the affect of the movie. When's the last time you felt that way in a theater? If you did, you'd be like me. Kinda so crazy, that weeks later he's still publicly and enthusiastically endorsing mass organizing insanity. Pick a night. Own it. Make the film truly your own. Be SWAN about it.
I tell ya, they'd write stories about it. Like me. I'm writing a story about one of us that actually made writing this story worth writing this story. Tell me more dear readers.
Here's the letter:
Hi Harry,
Don't know if you saw my earlier post, but I formed this group Face it here, on Facebook in response to my local Odeon (in Hastings UK) not showing Scott Pilgrim.
After only a fortnight of campaigning we got it!
It transpires that following on from a message sent to Universal via the movies website and a post on Edgar Wright's blog, news travelled to Universal UK and Edgar's producer who have convinced Odeon to show the film here. I received the email confirming this from Andy Leyshon, Sales Director at Universal UK.
I am so impressed that just a little bit of 'geek power' can get this result! Please spread the word that not all big cinema companies are just in it for the 'blockbusters'.
So far, Odeon have been quiet on this subject, but if it's not rolling on Friday as Universal expect, I reckon an industrial size can of whoop-ass may well be opened upon them.
Much love and epicness,
Kate Ward.
Be inspired. Be Epic.
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Sep 01, 2010 5:01:32 AM CDT
*shrugs* The official German startdate for Scott Pilgrim...
by redegiraahgnal
...is January 2011! And that was BEFORE it tanked at the U.S. Box office, so who knows when it comes out now and if won't go straight to DVD.
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millions of school graduates are going to regret ever signing up to social network sites in a few years time when they realise that EVERY potential employer is looking them up on the internet. "whats this? A tagged photo of you smoking a joint at a concert?"etc. dangerous shit facebook. beware!!!!
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...are notoriously shit. plus she only had to drive 40 mins to Eastbourne to watch it. not exactly laborious.
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I work at a TV station and that's what all the anchors had to do. You're not limited on fan pages (or "like" pages as they call them now). I'm not sure why they limit friends. I'm sure there's some reason behind it. But they really intend for anyone who's considered a public figure to have a fan page for people who want to stay in touch with them, instead of using a regular facebook profile. It may seem a bit of a pain to get people to switch over to your fan page, but that's the only way. Plus if people really want to follow you, they'll take the few seconds it takes to "like" you. Just post the link to your "like" page on your facebook profile.
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That's not facebook's fault. They shouldn't be doing those things anyway. And if they are, then don't be stupid enough to post it on the internet.
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it hasnt happened to me personally. know that nobodys stupid enough to post a dodgy picture of him/herself.however "frends" can tag a so-called funny photo of you from another persons page from an old photo from some random forgotten night years ago that happens to have you in it.
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my typings is all over the place today!
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I just want to say that while I personally have little to no interest in this film I think the idea that you can get a distributor to do this through geek power is really, really cool. Well done that woman!
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some people organize to get a dopey movie to play at their local theatre.
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...you obviously love this film, no doubt i will too when i see it, but i think SP's failure at the box office has more to with film fans' disillusionment at the cinema experience these days, rather than the film itself. when i say film fans i mean nerds, geeks, but also normal people who consume films at an above average rate. these people have disposable income yes, but to be able to see everything they want to see it has to spread out to DVD, blu, netflix/lovefilm etc, TV and yes torrents.
i have been with edgar since spaced was first shown on channel 4, i've double dipped, dressed as shaun and queued for 8 hours for a screening and signing of Hot Fuzz. search billyhitchcock in AICN's search box and you will find the review of mine that you posted for it. but still, i'm probably gonna wait for the DVD of Scott Pilgrim. reason 1) time. i rarely get to the cinema as much as i would like these days as i am a fully-fledged member of the workforce 2) money. i paid £30/$46 for me and my girlfriend to go to the cinema the other day. 2 people! and only i had snacks! no 3D, afternoon showing. fuck you cinema owners. 3) i really only enjoy screenings of 18 rated films these days, because there are no little shits in the cinema making the experience unbearable. 4) this ties in with money, but i have to choose what to see at the cinema these days. i really only see the big releases. Inception, yes, TS3, yes, Scott Pilgrim, unfortunately no. sorry edgar, but you'll get my money eventually. -
Scott Pilgrim vs. The World is pretty unfortunate and the world did seem mightily indifferent to it, so really this broad did a good deed in a way.
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Been watching Spaced to get me in the mood.Man what a show...
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Scott Pilgrim was good, I enjoyed it quite a bit, despite the Michael Cera problem.
But it wasnt the best film I saw this year, it wasnt the best film I saw this month, hell it wasnt even the best film I saw last week.
The film flopped Harry, get over it. I'm sure Edgar Wright already has, it was marketed poorly simple as that, and also wasnt put in enough screens. Shit happens. -
You simply remove the tag.
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I LOL'ed.
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Face it Harry, stop shilling this movie on your site like you did for JJ's Star Trekwars.
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It had been for a decent film... Ah well.
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Reading Harry's love note makes me think that he and I saw two different movies. Pilgrim was ok. The first half hour was fantastic, then the more actiony it became, the more repetitive and boring it got. Schwartzman and Culkin were great, Cera was Cera and nobody else left much of an impression. It was an exercise in style over substance - look, I'm not expecting The Godfather here, but shouldn't we get *some* sense of why Ramona Flowers is worth fighting 7 evil exes over? She's a good looking girl, but she comes off as a frigid, hipster flake. Some dream girl. And why are half the women in Toronto tripping over themselves to date Pilgrim, who's neither handsome/funny/interesting/charming? The movie looks great, individual moments are a lot of fun, but strip away the flash and I was left with a bunch of characters who I felt I didn't know and didn't particularly care about. If moviegoers are looking for a box office bust to save through a grassroots campaign, they should really be trying to save Pirhana 3D. Now THAT was a rockin good time at the movies.
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I probably won't see SP, but Kudos to that chick for letting it be known, and getting the studio to take notice
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So fucking what. High School Musical was a roaring success. Doesn't mean I'm going to head out and see it. Fuck it, I didn't care before, but the hell with this. I'm going to go see Pilgrim now. Or petition my local theatre, whichever.
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you'll be doing over at Famous Monsters?
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The theater plays it, sells sweet fuck-all tickets (as is the tradition with this film) and swears never to let Internet geeks affect their decision making again. Internet geeks are notorious for hype, but then they just fucking pirate the hyped movie instead of paying to see it. The end result? No more movies that appeal to geeks. There has never been a generation with a bigger sense of entitlement than the current teens/20s. Fuck them. Make movies for the people who actually pay for them.
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...what with an insanely loyal geek audience trying to cram their beloved film down everyone else's throat until people, perhaps unfairly, began to resent the hell out of the film. One major difference though was that Harry wasn't on board the love train for that one... In fact, I seem to recall his review of it being pretty passive-aggressive and dismissive. So it looks like he's all for geeks rallying unless he's not one of them, at which point he finds them as annoying as everyone else does.
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And people really seem to love it. I've only heard an audience clap at the end of a film three times the first was Inglourious Basterds at the end and the other two are with Scott Pillgram. I really don't get why this isn't doing well it's the best theatrical expierence I've had in a long long time. This movie will be not be a success at the box office since Universal is aborting it out of theatre faster than anything I've seen. It's hard to convince people to see this masterpiece due to the marketing(it's some of the worst marketing -trailer and TV spot wise in history) people are going to regret not seeing this in theatres years or months from now when they catch it on HBO or inflight movie. Go see this movie. I hate to say something is ahead of it's time just because it's not successfull -that would be a tad clichè but honestly there has NEVER been anything like it and there will never be anything like it again. It's just something so blissfully awesome it deserves every hyperbole one can think of. That being said
alot of people I'm hearing are put off by the
Aspect ratio changes in the same way Ang Lee's Hulk annoyed people with the comicbook panel gags. This movie will be adores years from now..it has to be. It's that good. By the way Universal paid me $50 to write this AND bought me some soil and a pot to put myself in. They said something about a plant but I don't know when that's arriving. -
I saw Scott Pilgrim during it's first week and made the prediction that it would flop in the theatres (it had already been moved to the tiniest screen at my multiplex, and it was only 1/3 full), but have a loyal cult following on video. Because of the style and subject matter, this seems about right to me. Even for a genre film, it's especially nichey. I consider myself to be a geek, but it failed to connect with me on almost any level. I'm not a talkback hater, I do appreciate the hell out of the amazing directorial work Wright did and recognize how well-put-together the whole thing is. It just didn't resonate with me at all, and I suspect that if this happened with me, it's happening with others. I think it was destined to be a cult film all along.
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. . .and fall in love with it the proper way." Or be disappointed by it along w/ the vast majority the routine way.
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and furiously demanded they dream bigger and stop showing the film. Does that count?
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This is my predicition. Universal knows which side it's bread is buttered on. They're going to rush it out of theatres and get the DVD/Blu-Ray out there quickly to capitalize on the market where it will truly thrive. They've probably already recorded the commentary. I only hope they throw us unfortunate souls who have not upgraded to BD yet a bone and give us cool special features too.
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is always titled a "cult movie". Or people always write how it'll gather a "cult following" when released on dvd/bluray. This makes me want to punch those fucking people in their stupid mouths. Thanks!
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So I better get started...
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98% of America does not care about this film.
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I thought that was only in Star Trek???
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Nowhere can I take my son to see it again except in 3D, and he's a bit young to be expected to wear glasses.
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Absolutely right on the 3D issue, people always say if you don't like then watch it in 2D, but that just isnt an option anymore.
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They don't call them "Monkey Points" for no reason...always take a cut of the GROSS; that way you get paid even if the fucking film BOMBS like Scott Pilgrim
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But Scott Pilgrim only opened in the UK last weekend anyway so the 2 weeks she was campaigning to get it were the 2 it was open in the US but not the UK. Great to see people fighting for the films they want to see but hardly surprising a film that hadn't opened in the country wasn't playing at her local multiplex but then was when it actually released! Sheesh!
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.......never mind, I give up; it wasn't even that good.
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I wasn't too interested in some limey chick spending more effort than she would have if she'd just drove 40 minutes away....but....it was very cool to see that you still think of us all as a big family. a fucked up dysfunctional mansonish family....but a family none the less!
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Sep 01, 2010 8:48:56 AM CDT
MY REVISED REVIEW OF SCOTT PILGRIM VS. THE WORLD......
by creationisttechnophobicmaniacs
What a goddamn mess this movie was. It’s Spider-man 3 all over again when there was the potential to make another Spider-man 2.You know, just because a movie is based on a comic book, that revolves around 8-bit videogame references, it doesn’t mean that it has to move at such a pace that people with ADD would start saying “WOAH, slow down there buddy!”. I’ve been looking forward to Scott Pilgrim since I first heard that this was Edgar Wright’s next project and discovered that the graphic novels were excellent, with the exception of Volume 6, which was anything but Scott Pilgrim’s Finest Hour. Let me explain. What a disappointment that book was. I literally burned through it in 30 minutes and it felt just soo weak in comparison to the previous five books, which had soo much nuance and detail, while providing not only satisfying stories about Scott Pilgrim but also made sure to give the other characters their moments to shine. The thing that made the other books great was those little moments of identifiable human emotion that grounded the whole thing when there wasn't battles with ninja's, robots and evil Ex’es. You could look at, not only Scott, but all of the characters who were going through things in their lives that you recognized in your own. Then there was the way that O'Malley would subvert your expectations and twist the story in satisfying ways. None of that here. There are no great revelations and the “mysteries” that were set up in the previous books have no pay off apart from “oh yeah, you know that thing, well, this is what that was……” and each lands with a thud. Ramona mentions watching the X-Files which felt the exact same way. All set up with no satisfactory climax. . The book just feels like a piece of business designed to get the whole thing out of the way. Characters and events feel completely perfunctory. All the peripheral characters just sort of stand around and don't provide SP with any real sort of emotional or intellectual support except for a pat on the back. Speaking of the supporting characters, you could have taken them out of this book and I don’t think it would have made a bit of difference. I just didn’t feel the book at all. . The worst part is that we don’t get any sense of these people moving forward in their lives apart from some half-assed left turns in place of any real development. With each book, you felt that, at the end, all the characters (at least Scott) had some sort of breakthrough or realization. They learned something that allowed them to *ahem* get to the next level. Vol 6 is basically and literally “Must defeat Gideon and get back with Ramona….” And that’s all there is to it. Sure, some obstacles are in the way but the predictable “Happy Ending” was never in doubt and you could feel O’Malley adding as much shoe leather as possible to make it seem as though the story was more epic then it was. Oh and what was the point of having Envy Adam’s return? I thought her story was given sufficient closure even if Scott didn’t get a hug. She’s a perfect example of what I mean when I say that the characters have no forward momentum and learn nothing. At the end of Vol 3, you really felt that she had discovered some things about the world, herself and had changed. Maybe for the better. . Also, Gideon Gordon Graves was a pathetic character and a piss poor villain. The previous books gave him such a vibe of underlying menace and you felt that he was a part of some real darkness in Ramona’s life. Based on her reactions to what Envy said to her in Vol 3, and the vision of her that Scott saw in her head in Vol 4, I expected to find out that she had been involved in some sordid, lurid and sleazy activities related to her employment by Gideon. I guess O’Malley didn’t have the balls to go all dark on us and decided to pussy out with that half-assed “masterplan” GGG had going on. I had hoped that O’Malley would go very dark as it would give Scott the challenge of learning to love Ramona despite the thing’s she had done in her past while also providing a counterpoint to all the video game, anime and manga references which suggests a severe case of arrested development in Scott that I wanted to see him confront and conquer in Vol 6. That Ramona was a runner because of the things she had done, was ashamed of, and left because she wanted to tell her Ex’es, but couldn’t, for fear that they would reject her, so, she rejected them first. I know these are just graphic novels but I was really hoping for a bit more emotional complexity, especially given the excellent character work presented in the first 5 volumes. I’m less interested in the fight scenes then I am the catharsis and/or reconciliation that the characters earn through their trails and tribulations. I felt none of this in Vol 6. . Ultimately, I think it was less important that Scott and Ramona get back together then they both obtain a greater knowledge of themselves, gain some peace of mind and are both able to move forward with or even without each other. It’s not about living “Happily ever after…” then it’s about making the best of things and enjoying your time together while knowing when to let go and move on. That's what being in a relationship is about and, for me, Scott Pilgrim didn't make that leap. Game Over. . Getting back to the movie; Wright SHOULD have been the perfect man for this job as Spaced, series one, is an absolute masterpiece and I had hoped that Scott Pilgrim could have been the Canadian equivalent. How wrong I was to have hoped. I’ve been saying all along that SP should have came across as a mix of Clerks 2 and Kung Fu Hustle. SPVSTW fails to come even close to either of those moves. The thing that they had, that SPVSTW doesn’t, was a level of pathos and emotional development that came off as genuine and sincere in between the donkey show and fight scene’s. . There is nothing genuine or sincere about any of the so-called- character development in this movie. I’ve said this before but the thing that made the comic’s great wasn’t the fight scene’s, it was the recognizable moments of human emotion that were on display between all the craziness. You could see Scott Pilgrim grow and develop over the novels. In this movie, SP has to tell us that he’s grown and changed because we sure as fuck wouldn’t be able to tell without him explaining it to us. . Amazing fight scene’s and visuals mean fuck all if I don’t care about the characters and I couldn’t give a shit about anyone in this movie. What we are watching aren’t characters but caricatures. Wright was in such a rush to get from one fight scene to the next that the movie didn’t have time to breath and let these people become real. This is a really piss poor adaptation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the comic’s deal with subspace (why did they even bother mentioning it when it played no part), robots, kung-fu battles and vegan superpowers but that doesn’t mean that some quality drama couldn’t have put into it as Christopher Nolan showed us that you CAN make great drama out of a man dressed as a bat fighting a psychotic clown. . SPVSTW fails because Wright has made it into a rapid fire miss-mash of pop culture/video game references in place of any real dramatic content. But then maybe the problem is with the original content itself as O’Malley himself failed to give any proper closure to these characters. At the end, of both the books and the movie, you have no sense that Pilgrim has moved forward apart from gaining a new sword and defeating the ex’s. Oh, both try to leave a question mark about Scott and Ramona’s future, but they still deliver the prerequisite “happy ending” which comes off as a cop out. . If I may make a comparison between the Scott Pilgrim movie/books and the Spider-man movies; Scott Pilgrim 1 & 2 feel like Spider-man 1, really good but not truly great. They hit the right notes more then they miss and, although very enjoyable, you get the feeling that it could be soo much more. . And then comes Spider-man 2/Scott Pilgrim Vol 3, 4 and 5. Superior in every way. Characters and story are better defined because the creators learned from their mistakes and crafted a much more mature and thoughtful piece of work while still being massively entertaining. Emphasis is placed on fulfilling the traditional structure of “good triumphs over evil” while also adding more emotional depth and moments of quiet introspection that make the characters feel more “real” which grounds them despite all the craziness going on elsewhere in the story. You also get a sense that everyone in the story learns from their own mistakes and grow as people rather than caricatures. . Scott Pilgrim’s Finest Hour/Scott Pilgrim The Movie is the equivalent of Spider-man 3. There is little or no character development beyond the superficialities of fighting the bad guy while trying to save a failing relationship. Scott/Ramona=Peter Parker/Mary Jane Watson don’t feel like they have grown or developed by the end of the story nor have they moved onto another level beyond managing just to stay together. In both cases, I felt that their stories had came to the point where they would have been better off without each other and should have moved on. . Scott/Peter becomes (is) a self centered twat who is certain that he must be with the woman they claim to love which, in both cases, was based heavily on infatuation/lust, not on whether they had anything in common beyond physical attraction. Meanwhile, Ramona/M.J. both come off as aloof and, despite showing some affection and claiming to love Scott/Peter, they both seem perfectly willing to drop they’re boyfriends depending on which way the wind is blowing because neither feel like they had any real love for their men beyond what they were getting out of them, be it fighting evil exes or supervillians. Both Scott/Peter seem to be breaking their backs to prove their love for these women while both of the ladies seem to hitch their wagons to them simply due to convenience and nothing more, while being ready to bug out at a moments notice if things don’t suit them which isn’t surprising as they both seem self absorbed, never mind that neither seem to have a problem hooking up with other men. . Meanwhile, the villains come off as one note and their defeat feels less like a triumph over adversity then a necessary end to the story. The secondary characters have no development at all. Essentially, both Scott Pilgrim’s Finest Hour(Movie)/Spider-man 3 feel like nothing more then action scene’s punctuated by substandard plot devices and generic character moments designed to give the illusion that we are seeing these people progress as human beings when, by the end of the story, there has been no real change from where they were at the beginning of the comic/movie. . In both cases, the easy way out has been taken by providing generic “happy ending’s” because the comic/movie’s creator(s) didn’t have the nerve to buck tradition and provide a resolution that, although may come off as downbeat, would have felt more “real” and “true”, thus giving their stories greater depth and meaning while elevating them beyond being a simple comic book/movie which is exactly what had been achieved in Scott Pilgrim Vol’s 3/4/5 and Spider-man 2. . Furthermore, people have been claiming that SPVSTW is “Next Generation” stuff. BULLSHIT. What exactly was “next gen” about this movie? What, comic book style framing, text and transitions? Creepshow and HULK have already done it. Split screens? DePalma was doing that before my Father’s condom broke. Rapid fire editing? Michael Bay does that shit all the time and he, rightfully, doesn’t get any applause for it. Super slick fight choreography? Stephen Chow did it better in Kung Fu Hustle. Apart from adopting the aesthetics of 8-bit games, there was NOTHING revolutionary about this movie. Wright just took every trick in the book and put them all together. Too bad he didn’t have the content to back it up. FIGHT CLUB did the same thing over ten years ago and THAT movie truly felt revolutionary, not because of all the visual tricks that David Fincher employed, but because of the strength of that films ideas. It actually had something to say which is where Scott Pilgrim completely fails. If Wright had infused his script with some thematic subtext, apart from all the surface level gloss of taking responsibility for ones own actions (which I don’t think was even done all that well) then it could have been something special. Wright could have said something about the twentysomething generation of today. But he didn’t. He was more focused on the fight scene’s and jokes. Don’t get me wrong, Fight Club had plenty of action and lots-o-jokes, but it was always the idea’s that were driving that story. What’s driving Scott Pilgrim? 8-Bit video game references... . Scott Pilgrim had the potential to be a Kung Fu Hustle style masterpiece but it failed to come even close and here’s why; Firstly, Stephen Chows character makes a TRUE evolution through that story. He starts off as a shit and, by the end, he has realized his full potential and came to defend the very people he put into jeopardy in the first place. Scott Pilgrim, IMHO, makes no such transition, at least not to the extent that Chow’s character did, nor did the piddling character development of SP compare to the overwhelming emotional joy I had of seeing Chow get his shit together. The final scene where Chow and the mute girl become children brings tears to my eyes every time. I felt nothing for Pilgrim and his bitch. . Two, Chow’s fight scenes are masterful. Cleanly directed where you could tell everything that was happening not to mention that they kept building and building to an epic crescendo while each fight scene’ topped the last, not only in scale and scope, but also in emotional weight. By the end you’re cheering for Chow to kick the Beast’s ass. I never felt anything like that in the fight with Gideon. It just felt like nothing was truly ever at stake and, as a result, I felt no tension. It might be a forgone conclusion that the hero will win but you have to make the audience feel that he is knocking his ass out in order to earn it. The protagonist needs to suffer in order for his triumph to taste all the more sweeter. Scott Pilgrim seemed to be only mildly inconvenienced. . In conclusion, the lack of proper character development is what robbed Scott Pilgrim of the emotional core it needed in order to fully engage the audience the way Kung Fu Hustle did. Stuff happens, then more stuff happens, the end. The protagonists were unlikeable which made me apathetic towards their plight and not once did I feel any emotional connection to them. All the fight scene’s, video game references and visual effects can’t cover the lack of real heart in Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World.
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This just strikes me as hilarious.Asi!
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You fraud! Where are the Pilgrimites and the REAL SCOTTPILGRIMFAN? Arise, brothers!
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SC0TTPILGRIMFAN IS HARRY KNOWLES, FACT!!!
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Harry, what you do is create a fan page or group... then unlimited people can "like" it.
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SC0TTPILGRIM SUCKS MY BALLS!!! EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Now, if we can only get Solomon Kane to play in North America...
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more character development than scott pilgrim!
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Do you have to be a lazy ass and just keep hashing out bullshit on that bullshit of a movie. Why not update this fucking site...why not write an obit for Roy Disney one day....hell why not write an actual review for movies instead of giving us your stupid little stories about when you were 10 years old and 250 lbs.
Just do something Harry!! Please we are asking for you to turn you lazy ways and bring us a better site. Its sad when the majority of the people only come here for the talkbacks. We don't come for the site itself. Have some fricken pride in your baby Harry -
for oral sex and root beer!
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When Bad Lieutenant came out my local Cineworld was showing some Bollywood nonsense, some Jennifer Aniston nonsense and some obscure kids CGI nonsense. I betrayed them and went to Odeon.
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Sep 01, 2010 9:36:30 AM CDT
Pancho_Villa, WE ALSO NEED A FUCKING EDIT BUTTON!!!
by creationisttechnophobicmaniacs
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...in a free newspaper where the reviewer said Michael Cera had "stuffed doll eyes...." I spat my coffee out I laughed so much! You can almost hear American audiences scratching their heads whilst watching it....it was doomed from the minute it was greenlit. Edgar Wright will be back to Shaun of the Dead type budgets.
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Sep 01, 2010 9:47:04 AM CDT
SPVSTW SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TV MINI-SERIES!!!FACT!!!
by creationisttechnophobicmaniacs
It would have allowed Wright to properly adapt the books instead of giving us the Cliff Notes version that we got. Also, he could have cast the right people in the roles instead of going for whoever had box office which is why we got stuck with that fucking creepy lesbian Cera. Oh and it wouldn't have cost 60 million fucking dollars!!!
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Hastings is the worst town in the world. It is so backwards I am surprised the theatre isn't playing Harold Lloyd flicks and Pathe newsreels.
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*tweet* "Hi! Just had a whopping shite- my arse is still bleeding!"*tweet* "Just pulled my cock out of the dead hooker I left last Thursday on Highway 65... good times!"*tweet* "Sitting opposite Harry Knowles while we rub vegetable oil over each other and watch Scott Pilgrim on Illegal download......"*tweet* "Just raped my two cats while next doors kid watched.....oh shit, that was Serbian Movie wasn't it????"
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Most of the towns along that stretch re fucked up- Bexhill, Eastbourne, Hastings..... all full of old people and unemployed tourists who can't afford to visit a real seaside town.....
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I actually count it in a 3-way tie with Toy Story 3 and Inception, but I had the most fun at SPvsTW. I would love for this to become a true cult classic. Great idea!
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.....and ended up with 30 days bound over..... does that count? Am I Harrys friend now?
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Noone saw it so they don't know....
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Harry would tell her to FUCK OFF.
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I saw it and thought this must be what an A.D.D. kid sees when watching movies.
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Sep 01, 2010 10:28:36 AM CDT
I could see doing this for The Expendables
by scottpligrimfailedmiserably
but not for this pointless and annoying flick.
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Most people are fookin' sick of having this stupid, vacuous, empty little pop-culture festival of a movie shoved down our throats. Once upon a time, I was prepared to ignore it but you fooked all that up when you decided to keep on shoving it in everyone's face. It fookin' deserved to bomb.
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See... because no one saw it... get it?
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Ain't that the truth! Still, it could be worse, it could be Brighton!!!
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So Harold, since it appears that you liked SPvsTW more than Piranha, does that mean Edgar Wright gave you a reach around and Eli Roth didn't?
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played by Anton Yelchin. Making your voice squeaky does not mean you are acting Cera
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Because they paid for tons of ad space on his site and he gave it a glowing review, but the movie still bombed. You know why you word doesn't carry weight anymore Harry? Because people can smell your shit from a mile away. You only review what you want, and that usually is movies from your industry friends or advertisers on your site.
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CONTESTANT 36!!!! Check out the new Futurama episode where they have a fancy dress competition at ComicCon! A fat guy trundles up on a mobility scooter dressed as Spiderman and shoots whipped cream from his wrists into his own mouth!!! It's KNOWLES!!!!!!
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won't put you to sleep"--Harry Knowles, Ain't It Cool News
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You could damn near walk there in 40 minutes, let alone drive it.
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I can't speak for anyone else, but my definition of a "cult" movie (critically acclaimed or not) is one that a small group of people passionately loves/supports while the vast majority of the public simply doesn't get it, is indifferent to or even completely ignores. Sounds like Scott Pilgrim to me.
Things are just more widespread with the online DVD & BD markets replacing the corner VHS video store.
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Face it, it was a huge bomb. The masses have no interest in it. It only appeals to a small audience. Why is it so important to you that people see it? Soon enough it will be on DVD and the handful of people who care about this movie will purchse it.
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or lack thereof.. People only come out in droves after they've been beat to death with slusho mix..give Scott Pilgrim the 6-month JJ Media finger-blast and I guarantee 90% of the haters would be singing a different tune..
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Anyone who writes like that deserves a kick somewhere soft.
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I was expecting a mashup of Kill Bill and Speed Racer. I got that, but didn't expect to also find John Hughes at the center of the thing. Nice surprise.It was original. Unlike Avatar.
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Brighton or Worthing..... both immense shit holes filled with druggies. Immortal, for Avatar being unoriginal it took more in it's opening weekend than SPVTH will take in its entire run.
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PLANTE
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for getting her local cinema to program Pilgrim. But lets take a look at your own site, Harry, prior to Pilgrim's release. You run a week of Q & As with Mr. Stallone, just below your 2 week-long AICN Stallone animation. You gush a gallon of man-love to The Expendables, which just happened to open the same weekend as Pilgrim. As billyhitchcock1 said earlier, we poor working slags pay a pretty penny just to see 1 movie on opening weekend, so a choice had to be made. To bad we don't have viewings thrown in our laps for free by the studios and director chums. Expendables blew away Pilgrim opening weekend, and it just couldn't recover afterwards (considering your sock ruining review of Piranha the next weekend!). I guess what I'm saying is despite your love of Billy Pilgrim, you had a hand in its poor box office, whether you admit to it or not. And seriously, who would you rather see on the big screen opening weekend..Michael Cera or Sly Stallone?I don't doubt Pilgrim will see big numbers come DVD and BluRay time.
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Sep 01, 2010 12:31:01 PM CDT
Harry cares so much because his hype killed it...
by lionel_richies_hipster_frames
The failure of Scott Pilgrim at the box office is all the evidence a major studio needs that AICN is irrelevant in the market place and has no effect on box office. Harry's pimped his friends films so often on here that we have become numb to it and no one listens when he tells us "you have to see this! it will fuck your eyesocket!" The box office failure of Scott Pilgrim is a disaster for Harry, Edgar and geek niche films that want a budget over 30 million. I can't even go see it at my multiplex as they bizarrely show it one time a day 10:20pm. That time doesn't work for me and my interest isn't high enough to see it then. Scott Pilgrim was hyped so much on this website they feel like they have a stake in it. If you follow these guys on Twitter, all the AICN guys were still pumping this up and sending messages to Edgar on Twitter praising the movie weeks after release. My problem with that is if the movie is that good, the public would have caught on to it. Whether it be Michael Cera backlash or the fact no one outside of geeks in the US knows who Edgar Wright is, the movie didn't connect with a mass audience. I went to see Inception this weekend and the theater was still half full at this point in it's run. That movie, which is not a lazy Hollywood movie, is still getting people to come out and support it. Pilgrim didn't. The shocking thing about Pilgrim's failure is there isn't even a good copy available on Bit Torrent for downloading. It didn't fail because of piracy. It failed because of lack of interest. Sad.
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hats off to you my dear, now if only we could get The Human Centipede at Cineworld..
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Those who Really too up their own ass to appreciate can suck Wallace's dick. Here in Riverton Wyoming we didn't get Scott Pilgrim either so I had to watch a Russian. Bootleg. Only cuz my town is full of rednecks so there is no way toorganize.
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Sounds like a good theory to me.
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Sep 01, 2010 1:15:32 PM CDT
"Ive seen Scott Pilgram 5 tims and stayed awake during them all"
by neck_lucas
"because I was paid to stay awake..Fuck Inception"
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Harold still hasn't gotten around to banning me yet. I'm sure once he polishes off that Costco pallet of twinkies we'll both get the ax.
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I saw Scott Pilgrim and enjoyed the fuck out it but it had nothing to do with Harry or Aint it Cool, even though I regularly visit this site. I went because of word-of-mouth from my friends that had either enjoyed the comic or had seen the film. I also saw that it did well on rottentomatoes. I've read some of the talkback comments dissing it and I don't understand all the hate. It's usually from someone who hasn't even seen the film. If someone actually had seen it and still didn't like it for whatever reason (Michael Cera seems like the biggest target) then I can respect that. But don't diss a movie you haven't seen because some dude with a website got a little extra scratch from having a banner ad plastered on his page. That's weak, man.
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Also, there really needs to be a Facebook campaign kick-started to get those annoying fucking Orange adverts out of British cinemas. They're shite, unfunny and ruin the whole cinema-going experience, and have been doing so for a few years now, with apparently no end in sight. Someone with a bit more drive than myself should get that going.
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And loved it. The only thing I hated was the way it made me feel old. Oh how I miss my Nintendo and Sega Master System...
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Agree. Get the annoying Orange ads out of cinemas.... and put the Annoying orange vid in! Knife!!
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This was a great achievement by this woman and her group. Whatever the film.
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Welcome to the revolution...
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Anyone who disagrees is just jealous of Edgar Wright's genius.
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The future is now...
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Everyone wants to be a hipster thanks to Universal's 'Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World'!!!!
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And they wanted men not boys. Expendables wins.
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I wear a cowboy hat.
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WHAT MORE DO YOU CUNTS WANT?
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I guess because it had less dramatic punch then Spaced did? Didn't want to soil the good name of Spaced.
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... TO THE MAX!
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... ON ACID!
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How do you know that this person doesn't already organize to help the less fortunate, in addition to organizing to get a dopey movie to play at their local theatre?
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HE KNOWS WHAT'S COOL!
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I AM THE KING OF AICN!
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He is the greatest director of all time.
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His comic timing is unbelievable!
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Universal's 'Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World' owns the Summer!
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GO AND SEE 'SCOTT PILGRIM VS. THE WORLD' YOU FUCKING CUNTS!
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Well besides the obvious....ugly lesbian. Its as simple as that.
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I was thinking that when Harry said UK. I was like??? Didn't it come out later there? So Harry got dupped by some lame facebook page hahahahahahaha.
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Solomon Kane? Since we didn't get to see it here.Haven't seen Scott Pilgrim yet; Not sure why people here would want Edgar Wright to fail, but I can understand not being interested in the subject matter of the movie, trade paperbacks. The teen emo/hipster kids culture doesn't appeal to me, but the references to classic games does, which is odd, because I don't see how those games are relevant to teens and early 20 somethings today. Whatever.Oh, and how could someone miss an NES/famicon or Sega Master System when the hardware is easily procured on eBay, or emulated?
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Sorry Harry. Inception still kicks Scott Pilgrim's ass.
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Sep 01, 2010 2:49:10 PM CDT
Harry, give it up, Scott Pilgrim BOMBED
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
...and deservedly so. Face the facts, very few people were interested in seeing it, despite you and your lackeys' 'love' for the movie - a 'love' no doubt compounded your earnest need to please your best phone 'friend', Edgar Wright. Nor is Scott Pilgrim some unjustly negelected classic; there are far more deserving films that didn't do well at the box office than this. On the whole, the geeks at AICN do NOT like this movie, at least that's the impression that I get - you simply cannot 'will' a cult classic into existence just because you say so.
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It will be out by November.
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Can't you see it made no money? Why do you still like it in spite of its financial failure, that makes no sense! Please use your site to only discuss box office hits, thank you.
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Hey, I know sites on the net that don't even discuss big box office films but spend their entire time talking about crap like Sunshine.
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I loved Kung Fu Hustle too, but I think the character development in Scott Pilgrim was a more gradually paced, and as a result, more believable. To me, it sounds like you are a sucker for certain moments in films/comics; certain little gestures that touch you, which have you thinking "I LOVE THIS SO MUCH", and if you don't get that feeling, then you get extremely disappointed. For instance, your "candy with the mute girl" example from Kung Fu Hustle. How is that "character development"? It's a nice little visual metaphor, but it's not character development. Chow's character in Kung Fu Hustle doesn't really develop, does he? He has the same character arc as a butterfly. He's a jerk, then he has one moment of true bravery (that pretty much comes out of nowhere), then he heals in a giant weird cocoon, then he's suddenly the nicest guy on the planet. That's not how real human beings build character. Come to think of it, the Scott Pilgrim comics really aren't much better. I didn't see Scott go through any character development in books 1-5. The movie was much better. It showed Scott go from social slumming, to building up emotional courage, to taking real risks with his relationships, to eventually owning up to his past mistakes and accepting whatever consenquences befall him. So yeah, watch the movie again, without looking so hard for those cute little "I LOVE THIS SO MUCH" inducing moments, and you may notice a better movie.
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Sep 01, 2010 3:04:21 PM CDT
And if you really want to stop people calling you a bonehead
by turd_has_risen_from_the_grave
Do this:1. Write timely and coherent reviews of ALL major releases.2. No more shilling of crap movies by your filmmaker buddies. Let's have some honest reviews and a range of opinions. 3. Ban all disgusting cat hating diatribes from Merrick and his twisted son.4. No more highly prominent reviews from people like 'Fatboy' Roberts and The Enemy - they are NOT staff. They should be treated like any other 'anonymous' contributor giving his two cents.5. No more Amazon links on the DVD columns - it should all be from the love of your craft, not the almighty dollar.6. Re-hire Moriarty. I hate the fucker, but at least he provided the coherent ying to your stream of consciousness yang. Anyway, nobody reads HitFix - he must be champing at the bit for a decent job.7. Update the damn site and add an EDIT function. Come on, for fuck's sake - if you lack the ability or the drive to do it, hire a web page designer.8. Go on a diet and exercise, otherwise and unlike last time, expect no sympathy whatsoever the next time you're hospitalized. And that next time could be fatal.Of course, you won't do a single thing here, as always...Have some respect for yourself, at least, if not for the talkbackers and the people that read your site. It's really sickening to watch what a dump this place, and what you started, is becoming.
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The movie is retarded. Its a clusterfuck of lameness.
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A stoner, nerd, fatso, and virgin. If you are all of those things you will enjoy the movie.
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Too obsessed with being geek cool and i couldn't stand that phone ringing all the time.
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as is every tech trend that pops up on the ever increasingly useless internet.
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In Fond du lac, Wisconsin. I'm sure it took quite a bit of signatures but we finally managed to get it.
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olds? Don't know...BUT, OLDER people did like it. I am over 40 and I thought the movie was damn good. I'd say one of the 5 best this year. But then again, I am of the minority here sometimes, I think. I don't call Harry a cunt every other time he posts, and I usually like movies most of you don't, but I digress. Harry, keep doin' what you're doin', I'll keep readin'.
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thats all im sayin,people are sayin it like bomb equels bad movie. P.S. all the hate is whats going to make this movie last forever, and thats fine by me. SCOTT PILGRIM VS THE HATERS!!!
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...huh?...scott pilgrim?...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Sep 01, 2010 5:03:00 PM CDT
Pilgrim RULED. Better action than Expandables. Yeah, I saidit
by behemoth
Yeah, that's right. BETTER ACTION THAN EXPENDABLES, a film I was rooting for that failed miserably. I had no expectations whatsoever for Pilgrim. Saw it because I was bored ... and it kicked infinitely more ass than Stallone's pack of horribly written, horribly acted goons.
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...all of you freaks talking about how much money Scott Pilgrim didn't make are kind of making me ashamed to consider myself a movie lover. "But money influences product and it's a barometer of taste, blah blah blah." How much of what YOU like seriously has to do with how successful it is at the box office? But because Harry's cheesed you off with his constant pimping of Scott Pilgrim, all of a sudden the fact that it's not popular is proof that what he likes is bad. And I totally get the being cheesed off part, because at this point it is getting fucking ridiculous. But you seriously have to resort to quoting ticket sales? You think anybody in the world doesn't know that Scott Pilgrim was a Bob-Omb at this point? That shouldn't have anything to do with whether you like it or not.
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this is just fucking shameless harry..even for you
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because Harry liked it, but didn't like Inception. Go suck Nolan's dick some more. Fucking fanboy trash.
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That's all it takes these days to become a hero I guess
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for the record. But I sure as fuck don't care for you twats. "It didn't do well at the box office! Get over it!" So every fucking movie you ever enjoyed was a smash success? Did "98% of America" care about every movie you did, as one of you retards put it? I doubt it.
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in fact, this summer's been pretty down all around.
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Yeah I said it. Never cared for cyberpunk. Blade Runner is infinitely boring and not very interesting. Imagine Total Recall or The 5th Element with Bruce Willis in Unbreakable as the main character - that's what Blade Runner is.
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because if you had the same audience Scott Pilgrim had you'd be out of a job....there would be like 10 visitors to this site.
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It's all very well, persuading a cinema to put on a film you want to see, but it's not going to happen often. In the last few years, I've had road trips of around 140 miles, just to see Let The Right One In, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, [Rec], [Rec]2, Outlander, Carriers and others. It is a pain, and I wish they would put them on closer, but in all the above cases, the films were worth the trips.
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The movie fucking opened in Venice and, of course, fucktard can't get a single review on this piece of shit site. Oh but we should all go out and follow this girls example of getting theatres to play Scott Fucking Pilgrim. Fuck you SHILL!!!
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WOW.......Hey here are to free passes for the next TBA J-LO movie, doesn't matter what it's about or what it's called Ijust have a feeling that it will be right up your alley. SCOTT PILGRIM VS THE HATERS!! FOREVER!!!!!
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Scott Pilgrim was dreck, absolute garbage, noticable only for some nifty editing and an interesting soundtrack oh and the shock value of seeing the brilliant Edgar Wright piss away a huge Hollywood budget.
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Ain't gonna happen.
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Fact!
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His obvious PLANT status and his single minded ubiquity likely turned off a lot of AICN's readers who might otherwise be the film's core audience. Way to go, marketing team.
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And the piss meter goes down? That was actually the meter showing how interest and support for that movie quickly fizzled.
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with Justin Bieber.
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...really did have an effect on AICN talkbackers. I know it would be an easy move, as some talkbackers have already done, to say something like, "The only reason the movie failed is because it sucks," yet there was certainly a noticeable change in attitude in the talkbacks once SCOTTPILGRIMFAN began ranting about how it will be the best movie of 2010. I get the frustrated response to this kind of trolling, yet I was surprised to see people begin saying the movie will suck - not as a general statement - but as a reaction to SCOTTPILGRIMFAN. This one troll made talkbackers feel like an army of hipster douches were peer pressuring them to like the movie. One talkbacker did this. I won't argue with anyone that simply wasn't/isn't interested in the movie. I'm simply in disbelief at the effect one troll had on the regulars around here.
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I love how this film isnt being classed as a flop by most of the Press - whereas Peter Jackson's Lovely Bones was, almost immediately. BUT TLB made 90 million worldwide - 30mil over it's budget, thus making a profit, I guess it's an expectation thing - that PJ's films should all make billions
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Well, at least for me. I saw it twice, small theatre, maybe half full if that, and I still loved it, thought it was the best movie I've seen all year. But it's not like fucking Iron Man where you'd get a full crowd and people cheering and shit. Of course, I hate people so maybe that's just me.
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and that made more than Lovely Bones and Scott Pilgrim.
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Yeah, watertight argument there. Because as we've all seen, that has so much to do with it. You are aware that Alice in Wonderland made $146 million in its first week? And that they're currently working on a Fast and the Furious 5? But good luck trying to defend that position.
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271 million in the states alone and a total of over 650 million worldwide. Did people really expect a film like this to put up Dark Knight numbers? Because given the nature of the film, that take is very good.
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I dont care if Scott Pilgrim has "good" directing, writing, acting, effects and is by all accounces and purposes a "good" movie....it still sucks because it's lame. Its just a lame idea. no one cares about some nerd fighting a chicks "evil exes"...its just stupid and gimmicky. thats why it sucks.
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What a pile of shit that was...but i dont blame PJ. The source material was trash. its a decent concept, but the story was ruined by an inept author. in the hands of someone talented it could have been great.
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December 4-5?????? Make that happen please, I can do it that weekend!!
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isn't playing, there is something deeply wrong with this world.
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Did I interpret Harry's drunken rant to mean he wants to start a Street Team for a movie? What a douche!
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It just didn't take with me.
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So Scott Pilgrim will fall into the same category as films such as Serenity, Kick-Ass, Outlander to name 3, that were well received by the critics, but simply didn't do well at the box office. Harry, I'm afraid you'll have to accept it. Not every film can be a massive hit, with some simply undeserving of their success (I'm looking at you Avatar). The best you can hope for, is the film to be appreciated when the DVD comes out. After all, the same thing happened to The Shawshank Redemption, and look at the way it is looked at now.
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Sep 01, 2010 8:21:31 PM CDT
Anyone who uses the BO to defend their point is douche from here
by spectrebeeyatch
I hate it! None of you know how the business fucking works so stop talking about the money it makes! Just talk about the movie itself. When I hear some d-bag moron use the BO as a defense I auto-assume he is a 50 year old virgin who sits in a basement crying himself to sleep every night. Who cares about money? There are so many idiots out there that the BO is a tainted source. That fact Pilgrim didn't make trucks loads of cash proves only smart people went on saw it. While idiots decided to stay home and flame it instead of actually seeing a movie and then creating a stance on it. Debate over. I won.
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You are quite right
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Scott Pilgrim is still Crank 2 for pussies.
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TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.
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Harry!!!
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Harry would rather you receive TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.
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Cries.
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Richard Burton and Pete O'Toole in love. I'm drinkin 24 tequilas tonight in honor of the great sozzled ones
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To each his own and all that, but damn did I find Scott Pilgrim boring. And I even went to the theatre and paid to see it AFTER I watched it on the Internet because it had some cool moments and I bought into the support it or else campaign. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... I won't get fooled again.
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No one gives a flying fuck what anyone on the internet thinks anymore. Gee, a bunch of webmasters thought Scott Pilgrim was going to be a "game changer"? Hell, even Devin at CHUD got the hint that no one gives a shit what a bitter, mid 30's douchebag thinks about anything and jumped ship for "better things". Thank GOD that now Hollywood won't throw money at an adaption of a shitty indie comic book.
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if it were some one from AICN that did this? nope someone else , something to think about
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cause the previews looked boring.
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Seriously?
Did Edgar Wright give you a reach around or something?
The level of bias towards it here is absolutely shocking.
At this point I don't care if the film's good or not because the "you must go see this" brigade have put me right off of it.
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And Kick Ass! And Inception! And Avatar!
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So you're one of the smart people? Way to undercut your own argument. Or did you go see it becasue you wanted to bottom Michael Cera?
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And to use the word suck and junk so liberally. Like, shit, after angrily expending rage towards fucking movies of all things 24/7 on the interwebs so the world can know your hate, don't you need to lie the fuck down? Jesus Christ. Angry, bitter people.
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103 people joined the group and got them to show that pile of shite?
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FACT.
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...that Fox needs to get Edgar Wright to do that POTP redo they've been mulling over for years. (Seriously, that whole thing with Gideon definitely looked like it was heavily inspired by POTP.) Also, I like a movie with a loli in it. :)
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your precious Expendables wont even be remembered in 10 years, but this little box office bob-omb (you see what i did there?) will enjoy a nice long life and cult status that will swell with age. dvd sales are gonna make up for bad turnout in theatres, and all the converts will wish theyd shelled out the $9 to see this film how it was meant... LARGE and LOUD
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Would love to watch it in the cinema,but when studios persist with a distribution model that is decades old in a world where people can download a movie in a relatively short amount of time, I have no sympathy for the studios losing out to pirates.
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from my local theater. A movie that has bombed should not be allowed to keep a screen for another week. That space can be used for an early showing of Glenn Beck's "A Christmas Sweater".
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I simply have no interest whatsoever in it. I looked at the comic it's based on and it was not my kind of thing at all. I am sure it will be a cult film for those people who like it, but it is clearly not the kind of thing that will ever have mass appeal. Based on the comic, I don't know why a studio would even take a gamble and make a live action film version... it clearly was not the right material for a big film release.
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It went from "I just saw this great movie you guys never heard of and might like" to "You MUST SEE THIS OR YOU'RE NOT A REAL GEEK!". That's what is helping turn people off to certain films this site aggressively promotes. When you tell the kids to eat their veggies, they don't. When you put a little butter and cheese on them and leave them on the table they will. Harry lost his credibility as a angel for great movies with all the Eli Roth/Robert Rodriguez/Richard Kelly pimping he did in here over the years for mediocre to plain out bad movies. It's caught up to him. Now that the audience for this site has seen the little boy cry wolf too many times, he's lost the ability to influence his audience into seeing anything. He'll stomp and cry and try to build hype through other contributors, but the fact is the audience here knows which movies Harry is trying to make you see and they reject them for the most part. I don't count the Expendables as a success for Harry as that shit was making money with or without his having Stallone answer questions here. Every Nascar loving rube in the midwest happily lined up for that. Perhaps this shift to Famous Monsters is a good thing for this site because Harry either needs to stop reviewing film here or start to really dedicate himself to reviewing film here again. There was a time when Harry would get excited about movies we never heard of like Battle Royale and even something as cool as Let The Right One In. In those cases he's promoting films that are actually good and he has no relationship to. Everyone knows who his "friends" are here because he's insecure and feels the need to namedrop all the time. By doing so, he's lost his credibility with us when any of his "friends" release a movie. I said it before and I'll say it again, Harry has done more to hurt a movie like Scott Pilgrim than to help it.
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Nicely put mate.
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I don't mean to heap upon Harry, but it's the truth as I see it. That said, this site was an amazing thing in it's early days and Harry was the center of the universe here. What happened is writers, producers, directors and studio execs realized this place was a platform for promotion. Once enough of them met Harry in person and realized who they were dealing with, it's been abused. If Harry could go back and do it all over again, he should have resisted relationships with talent and been the one critical voice for great film on the internet, but he got seduced by the glitz and is stuck in this limbo where he's having a difficult time getting out of. My advice to him would be to watch one of his "friends" films with a very critical eye in the future and if he hates it, then say that here. Show his audience that he still can drop a hammer on a piss poor piece of shit movie no matter who makes it. Be honest with us and don't try to sell us a movie with 15 reviews by contributors. Just review the movies again and get back to what made this site. Although I think if Harry even read this he'd be in denial to everything I just wrote and claim the opposite. But I'm a fan of his and this site and I'm here for the death rattle these days. I still read the reviews, but with a jaundiced eye. That's not how I feel about film. It's how I feel about the manipulation that goes on with this site. When Mori walked from here, this site lost a lot.
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SPF can bitch and moan all s/he wants, but in the end Expendables kicked Pilgrim's ass. Failure to launch.
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You're not wrong. I used to love everything about this site...Now it's just the a$$holes reviewing comics and some of the Talkbacks that keep me interested. Harry is no longer a relevant voice because rather than resisting the tide he has become one more part of the Hollywood marketing wave.And shut the fuck up those of you who write, "Well stop reading him, then", because if we don't grumble'n'whine then there's a chance he'll never smell the coffee and go back to what made this site great.No-one, and I mean no-one, on this site can claim that it bears much of a resemblance to its origins.Now, some of you might say it has to evolve and I agree, but shilling, offering lazy reviews and often being one of the slower sources of information on popular culture is not the sort of evolution that aicn needs.I'll admit that most of us are our own worst enemies because we keep coming back for the Talkbacks, but the lack of class on show from this site will begin to bite and then hopefully Harry will go back to doing what he does best (though the money for plugging mates' movies and the set-visit backhanders might be too difficult to relinquish).
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I think there's hope for Harry. At this point Hollywood isn't looking at the internet like it used to and a lot of the marketing dollars are going to dry up. Also his "friends" may still not be his friends as enthusiastically when his seal of approval means little to their box office chances. There will be a lesson to be learned from Scott Pilgrim's box office performance this summer. When Harry is left with a site that frankly is a shell of what he once had, he'll be faced with the choice of selling it, shutting it down or digging deep to bring it back to the level it once was. Maybe that's a younger man's game but I hold out hope that Harry will soon again post spy reports, script reviews, scoops and genuine reviews that are not tempered by money or relationships. The Famous Monsters news gave me hope because that's taking Harry back to his roots. Hopefully, he finds his way back. If not, it's a loss for the film loving community because at one point this site was all about film love. As of now, it's not genuine anymore. Hell, I even miss Harry's wife posting her indie rock music reviews. At least those were based on real feeling and not manipulation.
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I hope you're right, because even trawling through all of shit posted by a few brain-lite and time-heavy drivel merchants on the talkbacks is getting tiresome.This site needs a real scoop, something that potentially undermines a film, or whips the rug out from under a movie grandee, and therefore challenges the industry it now simply suckles off.And I don't mean posting a 'meh' review of Inception.
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I had the same reaction to the comic. Not my sort of thing. But the movie was very funny, and well worth the trip to the theater to see it. I quite enjoyed the comic book/anime style of the fight scenes. It's probably the first movie I've ever enjoyed while not particularly caring for the characters.
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The film opened in her theater the same week it opened everywhere else in the UK. And, it's due to close any minute now.This preening "geeks will change the world, if only they really, really try" stuff is just more of Harry's delusions.If we were one big family, he'd get a sippy cup and be sent back to the kid's table while the adults discussed movies.
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so that they'd release new movies on Fridays and sometimes Wednesdays during the summer when kids are out of school, and GUESS WHAT!!?!! My local theater has new movies tomorrow!The internet is so powerful! Of course, I don't go to see many movies in the theaters because I'm young and I have my head up my ass, but it really is great to be in charge of the whole world!Just thought you might all like to congratulate me.
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to stop Hollywood from fucking up our movie summer. What? the summers over? I guess it worked.
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I say really stupid shit, just like Glenn Beck, and if anybody asks me to defend my statements, I call them Unamerican.
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To get Jon Favreau to call me back.
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If you "like this" and let me spam with tons of useless crap, I'll show you Cee-Lo's new video.
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to get Steven Tyler laughed off "American Idol" along with the last shred of rock-n-roll credibility he had.
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Scott Pilgrim is opening near this bitch tomorrow. It opened in England on the 25th, so MAYBE she actually did something? But I'm still skeptical that she did anything at all. That would also only make it a 10 day wait not 12.
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to get THE_CHOPPAH to cut and paste one of my posts, RE: joining my Facebook campaign.
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Series has, and you should too!
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so that when I'm an adult, my little brother and I can argue during Thanksgiving over which one of us has more friends while our dear, senile mother tries to serve up more of that weird jello-cool whip-fruit salad concoction she thinks she invented.
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To get Choppah a girlfriend, because he's clearly lying when he says he's married.
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to get "The Situation" to pimp bodybuilding supplements on AICN. 'Cause, ya know, nuffin' says "movie excitement" quite like the brand of chemical a Jersey guido uses to build muscle. You wanna be wimpy art-house fag, ya knob? I eat a handful o' dese an' den I go watch DA ESPENDABULLS again. And sose should youze.
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Are you from Utah?
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Empire have had their review for Scott Pilgrim online for a while now, but the magazine posts it this month:Five stars and a lot of love for Wright's film...I wonder if that will have any impact on the numbers over here.And THE_CHOPPAH, why do you cut and paste your comments across multiple Talkbacks with just a few name changes in each one? Lance Henricksen & Sarah Polley being one example I noticed earlier.I get that you love your flame wars with other people on here and it's a public forum so do what you gotta do...but why just keep pasting the same inane shit with names changed?For example, from the 'Walking Dead' Season 2 thread:"Watched that again recently. The first hour is still really good. But I had forgotten how much it descends into a big-budget A-Team episode by the end...rather dull extended shootouts with clunky editing. I guess that marked the moment where Sarah Polleydestiny lay in movies that were more about action than drama, for much of the next decade.I was so hopeful when Splice came out that it heralded the return of both Polley and Brody as genuinely dramatic people. But it was a false dawn for both.And then the same useless shit on the Sandman thread, but with some name changes:"Watched that [Aliens] again recently. The first hour is still really good. But I had forgotten how much it descends into a big-budget A-Team episode by the end...rather dull extended shootouts with clunky editing. I guess that marked the moment where Lance Henriksens' destiny lay in movies that were more about action than comedy, for much of the next decade.I was so hopeful when The Quick and the Dead came out that it heralded the return of both Stone and DiCaprio as genuinely Good guys. But it was a false dawn for both."How bored must you be, because I bored myself silly noticing this.
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And Vampires Suck didn't, it must be good... I just can't believe YOU, MOVIE FANS, can determine the quality of a movie by the money it made... Not by the movie itself. I also hate the fact that people will trash a movie just because ONE ACTOR appears in a movie. I hate Steven Seagal, but i'm definitely going to see MACHETE. And stop comparing movies that deserve no comparison to each other. You know what movie I'm talking about. If Harry loved Scott Pilgrim, then he loved it. And If Harry wants to write an article about something related to a movie he loved ON HIS WEBSITE, then I think he can do it too. Stop being such babies.
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...If I invent a Professor X-style floating wheelchair to replace your Rascal Scooter, would I get featured? Now if only I could find some fuckin' Cavorite and turn it into paint...
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... the sure-to-be-a-Watchmen-level-fuckin'-disaster, in-development Sandman series that WB is threatening us with?
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...is an HBO miniseries treatment, and get the fucking squid in the ending.
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I usually go by the previews. If the previews look bad to me, then I avoid the movie, but if it's an over hyped mess there's a part of me that chuckles softly when it bombs.
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And overhyped in my opinion.
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Hey SPF...take your ritalin.
Yeah, EVERYONE is twittering about SP....Twittering NOT to see it....LOL
You pathetic socially ostracized morons (aka AintItCool drones) just can't let it go..because you somehow "relate" to a pathetic f*ck of a "character" (but with no arc) that most people would think (at best) is one of "THOSE StarTrek/Wars cosplay pathetic losergeeks" that most people don't want to hang around and at worst, a sociopathic pedophile prone to psychotic fantasies...again, someone most people have no rooting interest for.
That's why the movie failed. It only appealed to the isolated social misfits (aka the Geeks)...and the geeks don't have enough critical mass numbers to make any movie a hit on their own.
Edgar Wright is a talented filmmaker...but he forgot that movies with a $60 to 90 million budget NEED some crossover mass appeal. SP had NONE.
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Its Speed Racer bad. Apparently there are no black people & anyone over 30 in Scott Pilgrim's Canada.
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wants to over-promote SP or whatever he wants here - it's his site. The thing I have a problem with is the condescending title. I've been reading AICN for a long while and I try to keep my posts constructive, but that was a real slap in the face. And, yes, it *is* Harry's site so I suppose he can insult whoever he wants, but I'd strongly recommend not publicly insulting your reader-base though.
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Scott Pilgrim is dogshit regardless of how it did at the BO. It bombing was just the Cherry on top after this site whored it around in our faces for 3 months....so suck my fat cock head you Scott Cera loving bitch. Im gonna squirt down your throat until you get a stomach ache....followed by diarrhea
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I did not know who Mary Elizabeth Winstead was until this movie came out.(I had seen her work before) Although the image search I did made her out to be a TAD bit cock-eyed, and most guys in here would say she's below average/okay looking, if she showed up at the door dressed as Romona Flowers, it'd be "Pizza Rolls Vs. the entire fucking universe",if need be.(and get off my ass, all her bios say she was born in 84!)=-)
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All I'm saying is that she is very good looking,(imo)and still retains that girl next door vibe.
I"d love for her to show up, and wanna "make it happen", and even though I'm not "deathproof" if my last breath was taken in her presence, I'd "die hard"! -
but I meant EVERY friggin' word of it!
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As Arnold once said,SUE ME,DICKHEAD!
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I'm not a Cera fan but this film was flat out fun as fuck. I have the books and read them long ago...except 6 which just came out in time for the movie. It seems so easy to call something you don't like the "it" term. It was "emos" and now it's "hipsters". When I was kid being called a geek or nerd actually hurt. So to all those self-proclaimed geeks and nerds that think they are better, I say you are all exactly alike. An asshole is an asshole no matter what you want to go by, but no one out there is actually calling themselves a "hipster" except 13 year olds that look up to all the cool people.
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im setting up a facebook page for my Odeon to remove it.
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Don't be such a fucking baby and cry about it to facebook. Unless they lived on a mountain in the sticks or they were wheelchair bound, then find a way to get to another theater. So it's easier to bully a theater than to get off their fat ass and actually go to another theater? Please.
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